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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Thank you so much the Intellectual Radio for having me.
And you know, shout out to my messenger Jesse as well.
Give a huge shout out to him.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Come on, Jesse than here.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yes, But before we start to dive in everything, I
always do a prayer. Just let you know we all
pray for every everything were going through and everything that's
going on. Dear God, pray for strength to keep going
even when life feels heavy, reminding that every battle has purpose,
every delay has a meaning, and every prayer has has
been heard. Fill my heart with the courage to trust
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that you are working behind the scenes. Give me peace,
courage and everything I need to breakthroughs. We should say
breakthroughs is going on and your name Jesus, our prayer
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Speaker 1 (01:09):
So what you say, We're gonna dive right into it. Okay,
let's do it.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
So we're gonna go into your background. When did you
start doing music.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I think music has always been a very huge part
of me. I mean, my family has always loved music,
and it's very, very much so been musically inclined. I
started singing ever since I could talk, and I've been
writing ever since. Like I started, I've always been freestyling
and writing my little songs. And I think I got
into poetry at a young age, around like eight or
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nine years old. Yeah, and I remember when we had
an event in third grade, we had a poetry competition
and one of my poems actually got published, and I
think I started turning that into songwriting as well and
just combining the two. And ever since then, it's been,
you know, history. But I think I just started to
take my career seriously around twenty nineteen, a little bit
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before the pandemic, and I think around that time, I
was just in my room, just writing, experimenting with production
a little bit. I didn't know too much at the time,
but I was just experimenting and allowing myself to create.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
And I started doing some gigs.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I got affiliated with Collaboraction around Chicago and we did
some gigs and I realized how much I love performing
and creating an art mixed with social justice and all
of that. And I think near high schools when I
decided I wanted to take it seriously.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, and that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
So you was in school while he was doing the
music right, And a lot of people don't know that's
really how it starts.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
That's really how it starts.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
A lot of people don't know that with the being
drums on the desk. You know, it might come from
just a different type of route. And then you grow
into it and you start writing at sixteen and things
like that. So I know you had to deal with
a lot of challenges just trying to shape up your
I call it artist development, you know, because when you
go into it, you gotta do all types of you know, styles,
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just which one is yours, because you might start one
where you might end up another. Like I might start
rapping fast, but it might be good in the slow lane.
So what's the challenges behind writing? Like, is you a
fast writer slow writer?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It really depends because I do so many different genres
I do like R and B pops. Sometimes I feel
like right now I'm tapping into my singer songwriter, like
I also rap and stuff too, So it really just depends.
And I think being a creative where you're inspired by
so many different fields of music and so many different
pieces of art, sometimes I feel like for me and
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maybe other creatives out there can relate as well. I
get so inspired where I have too many ideas, and
sometimes I'm trying to piece together like what fits where,
And you know, I feel like sometimes we have so
many ideas it can be a little difficult to try
to consolidate and figure out what belongs with. I feel
like every lyric that needs to have a home, and yeah,
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I just feel like that's so important. So I feel
like at this stage right now, that's been the most.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Difficult for me.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
But I think that's good though, because that means it's genuine,
it comes from a real place.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
To come back to it, sometimes you just can't. Yeah,
So what else are the challenges you face is doing
an artist? I think right now just like experimenting and
figuring out what works for you and just trying to
figure out the exact message that you want to put out.
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And also like we're doing this independently like as of
right now, like it's been me from the jump, and
obviously I've had my amazing parents to help me along
the way, but once I got to school, like it
really has been especially this last semester really has been
me and Jesse, like trying to navigate this type of
thing and make it work and you know, being your
own team and like having to navigate that because I
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find it so important to be the face if you're
going to be an artist, to dip into every single thing,
like even though producing is in your thing, be at
the sessions, you know, if you're you know, if writing
isn't really your things show up And I think it's
so important, especially for me, like I want to be
in every single thing, but sometimes it can be difficult
when you don't have the backing.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
It's being independent and starting.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Out, and you gotta let them know being young because
even when I started, I was young as well, but
it's like being a student.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, And I watched other people our ages. That's young.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
They know how to raise their own money, they know
how to go hustle and work for what they want,
and they're vesting to their own CDs. That's how I
really started with the CDs and passing now with a
picture on and things like that. Or even when I
was fifteen fourteen, I was so used to shows being
on the flyer every other weekend, and that's crazy how
they had things going on at the time for artists.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So to see me still.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Performing, it's like just a magic performing for fifteen years.
To me, it's like doing a tour locally. Like I
have experience of tour. It's just been in a circle.
But you still experience just doing a lot of things
consistantly over and over again. And a lot of people
don't stick into doing music. It's like they get into
it and they get out of it.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
How much do you think that social media has changed
that game for yourself?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I think in a good way.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yes, it changed in good ways where yes, you could
get more access to things quicker, you could show things
quicker all over the world. You can get paid off
things digitally, yes, But you know, but I'm still kind
of old fashioned a way, like I like the fact
that people could still come out to see you, or
because it pushed you to come out. If everybody is
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just washing us on the screen, it's like we never
got that we're doing.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
This all day, all day, all day.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yes, I feel like, actually laugh with people after they
see performed.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
They can get some pointers.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Or you know, you could take pictures with people. That's more,
you know, connecting with people versus just I can't really
get to know you over the phone, you know, because
you could.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You know, that's crazy though.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Not that artistry isn't found in social media, not that
all these people on social media have have what it takes.
But when you see that in real life, that's raw. Yeah,
that's raw artistry and you can feel you could feel it,
you can feel it right in front of them, and
you can really bounce back and forth with that energy.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Just like now, we connected through I didn't know who
you was before I met her, but I got to
know her before I met her, And that's crazy. So
a lot of shout out to the people to refer you,
your family, your friends. You know, she's definitely in the building.
Least in the building. You know, she definitely referrals your
She was telling me about you, and I did all
my notes like oh man, you know, I'm challenge. She
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was ready and the traffic was nice, it was meant
to come straight through.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I'm like, whoa, we got here early, right on time.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, I had to get used to it because you
know the difference between like going home and then here.
You know, places be small, then as you go it
gets bigger. You get to see bigger buildings, and then
as you go back home things get smaller. So you
realize you ain't gonna be able to grow if you
don't get out there. You have to take chances and
really go out and connect with others, because if you
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stand at one spot, how can you move?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
You need to move. Everybody gave me to share what's
going on. You know.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I want to say this because I think I think
that we both relate to this. Why we went to Berkeley.
I think that you know where we where we grew up,
we were both like not not to our own horns,
but we were big fish. We're a big fish in
like like a pond, you know. But then when we
come to Berkeley we realize this, there's a whole ocean
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right in front of us, right right, So it's really
all perspective.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
It is.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
For sure, you're talking about and you've got to talk
about the college. You gotta talk about. Come on, some
excited to get into it, talk about let them know.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, So I graduated high school year early at sixteen,
and I applied to Berkeley in February. Was February before
I was going to graduate as in my junior year,
but technically my senior year, and that's when actually when
I started writing Denim Too.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I wrote it for the audition, and I.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Was thinking about how because at that point, I obviously
knew that I wanted to do music, but I've also
been interested in so many different things, like I love psychology,
and I love specifically how music affects to bring. Like
that's always been like that one thing that I love,
and I still pursue that now, like I'm minoring in
music therapy. But it was always a thing of whether
I wanted to pursue music over medical, you know, or.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Like vice versa.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
So I was looking at some schools and I was
so blessed to be able to be offered so many
full scholarships in my state of Indiana, which I was
so blessed to receive. But I decided just on a whim.
I didn't know too much about Berkeley, but I decided
to just go for it and do the audition, and
luckily they had an audition spot in Chicago, so I
pulled up.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I sang a couple of songs.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I sang a musical theater song, and I also sang
Denim because I wanted to show my versatility. And I
felt really good about the audition. I felt like it
didn't feel like an audition. It felt like I was
at like I was where. Yeah, it felt like I
was exactly where I needed to be. And I wasn't
expecting too much of it. I knew that I was,
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like I hopefully I got in. I felt really confident.
I knew I was I may have gotten it. I
felt a little confident about that, but no, I did
not realize that I was gonna be able to get
a full ride, scholarship or anything like that, which I'm
so blessous.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
You manifested. You say this is like a day to
day type joint. You say, this is this type of
song you could play day to day, you know, celebrate
black excellence. You was talking about a lot of things
to symbolize growth and things like that, and then you're
yon doing this. Then your bounce back. Ye see, I
say I was reading that. Boy know about that behind
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the scenes, you know a lot of things that it
takes to do music as a producer, engineer, the beats,
the studio, the scheduling, the time, the book, then the sound,
the voice. What are your voices out? You gotta you
gotta drink tea, you gotta eat soup.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You gotta do a lot of things just to maintain
a character.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
That's what I tell people artists development, because we don't
think about things like that as we go on.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
We just oh, I'm just doing music.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Oh no, But when things go wrong, you don't have
no type of journal, no type of notes, no type
of I call it like a emergency plan, Like things
go wrong, what I'm gonna do? You need some type
of team, you need some type of resources or investments safe.
It's anything that helps you as an artist when things
go wrong. I would definitely highlight that. So bounce back.
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You gotta talk about that because they gotta really understand
what the song comes from.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
This is the This is like a baby, so this
is the baby shout.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
This is really telling them about it.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yes, I'm trying to figure out how to word this
without getting I don't want to get to I don't
want to get messy.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
But it was, it was.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It was nasty to come up it was it the
right So basically I was you know, you knew about
the story about how I created Dunim and how I
did this before high school people I performed this song.
I got the opportunity to perform it at Lollapalooza with collaboraction,
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which I was so blessed to have that opportunity. So
people knew this song. I people were familiar with the song,
it just wasn't produced. So once I get to Berkeley,
it was my first semester and I meet with this
producer and I thought we had a great relationship, but
things got very nasty to where the point where they
thought that they could put their face on my on
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my on my record. Mind you, the experiences that I
I was talking about about coming like you didn't come
up from a rocky place I was doing. I came
up from a rocky place, you know, and just going
through that. And I was seventeen at the time. I
was seventeen freshman year in college, and I feel at
the time I was also very vulnerable, but I was
also so eager and excited to be able to create
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and put my music out into the world. But it
was such a good learning experience because after that I
had contracts for everything, I had everything in place to
make sure everything was where it needed to be and
be able to pursue it. And it definitely put me
in a rut for the rest of the semester. But
luckily the producer who on and now shout out Cocosa,
but he reached out and I was like, hey, I
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think this whole situation is really messed up, but I
want to help you. I want to be able to
work with you. So we got together that summer and
worked on the record. We spent a couple more semesters
on it. We were able to put it out and
I'm grateful for the opportunity to be able to share
my story.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
And you know it was crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
You're still gonna still you still gonna tell it because
I was what I tell people you in between blessings exactly,
don't worry, I tell sometimes, don't worry about the results,
trust the process astely. I'll tell you about the end later,
but right now, let me tell you how I'm getting
to my results, because they don't know about them.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Hard and nice.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
When you put down and pin picked it up, put
down a pin piecked it up and the song is
out there, so you'd be like, oh, you know, sometimes
you got a little back and really think about the
times you want to give up on something, but you
still pushing towards it, And you got to remind you
you got all these influences around, all these people around you.
You got different type of styles around you in school,
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you got this going on your personal life. Sometimes certain
things will take over you have to take a break
and it's okay. Sometimes it's certain things is not ready
for certain seasons.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I agree, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
It's crazy to say it, but we want things to
happen this season, but it's really meant to happen that
season because this season is meant for.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You to go through it alone.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I think that was one of the big things too
with this record too, because people were expecting it to
come out so much sooner because I have started working
on it so much longer, and with the situation with
the producer, people were still waiting on the record. They're like, so,
when are you gonna drop it? And I think that
added so much pressure onto me. And then when you
were talking about like when need to stop? I have
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so many moments where I was like do I continue
doing this? Like I started to question myself. I'm like,
do I still have it? Like do I still have
it in me to finish this record? Because at the
same time, like, yes, I wanted to get it out
just much, just as much as everyone else. But at
the same time, I was still sitting there like I
want to take my time with this. I never my
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family taught me at a very young age and never
rush anything. And it's always on in God's timing, which
I believe in, and I think that I really want
to spend time with the record, and I just want
people to know that I will never be on your timing,
like I will always be on my own timing and
getting that record out the way that I wanted it
to be, I wouldn't change a thing at the end
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of the day. And then I'm learning too, when you're
going through it at a young age, the pressure is real.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
It's real because when I first tried to music.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
School too, because I was in middle school started I
started out with the little drums and things. And when
I started rapping, and I probably went on beat. I
just start rapping, you know. So when I was around
other people that probably better than me. That's what really
inspired me.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Not knowing.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
See, I didn't know how to rap, but I paid
attention how they was rapping and how they got to
it and flowing. I said, okay, I just need a
little couple of pointers. But a lot of people don't understand.
Sometimes practices really do make perfect. You gotta really keep
doing it over and over and over again just to
get it down passed. Sometimes it might take you longer
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than others. It's okay, but everything's not meant for everybody too.
But if you know you have a dream to do it,
you gotta do it all bad. You gotta do it
because you don't know the outcoming til you do it
exact and if it don't work out, fine, you did it.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Scratch out you Liz.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
But if you could look back and see the results
of your dreams like this, you have to like right now,
this is all over the place, so you have to
keep pushing it good into shows.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Have booking.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I know you booking too, Hey, we booking. So do
you perform live off then or yes?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yes, that is like my main thing, Like I love,
I crave like that type of live intimacy in my
performances and when and I think Jesse can also attest
to this too, like when I do a show like
we do it big, like I get a full band,
we get a live band, I get strings, I get.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I teach them choreo like I really dance it all.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yes, I whip everyone in the shape because I think
that it doesn't matter what stage you're in a what veanyard,
I don't care if we're in a cafe.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Like you, you got to perform like it's your last.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And I think it's so important and I love I
just love live performance because that's something that you can't
get off.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Of, just like a radio clip or a real exactly
k or.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Something you sit now, I get them as and everything
they might perform for you.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
You might look up, you didn't perform. They didn't even
realize it.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
So and I noticed, like even with past experience, it's
a lot of people that will hinder you, like they'll
hold you up or doubt you or like you said,
with the past or anybody deal with you be surprised.
I mean people you gonna deal with before you get
to the right people. You know, you start with these
what did I say? You? You can create your own team,
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but I also learned that you really can't train people
how to do a job, or mean, how to be
a person. You gonna train them how to do a job,
you know. But if you pay attention toy personalities and
you know that they ready for it, you will know.
But when things are hard for you, that's like God
saying it ain't gonna work out.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
When it gets too hard, you know it's too hard.
You didn't did all your options.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Oh yeah, that's when it's time to reset, redirect.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yes, you'd be surprised.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
You'd be surprised when you didn't everything you could to
keep something going, and a lot of people around you're
just not meant to go.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
And that's why I'm glad you was able to have
new people to connect with and start fresh. When you
said new season to bring it in. Now you say
you at seventeen, you was a thousand miles away from home, A.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Thousand miles away from home. Yeah, so you really had
the guts to say I'm going to just go ahead
and do it.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, I think restarting and that was one thing that
I was afraid of because, you know, especially because this
was like my first semester of college, like you're trying
to get adjusted, like you have, you made so many
meaningful connections, and to go through something like that, because
this person was starting to assue.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Me over my own song at seventeen years old.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
It was like, now you requarted seventeen requarter at seventeen,
Oh lord, so how did it?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But I think, like I was saying, yeah, I think
I went through all of that.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
But at the same time, I'm so blessed to like
to go through the experience and know that it's okay
to start over, because I feel like that was God's
way of showing me that I felt too comfortable and
it's you got to get uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
It's scary to find your pe, especially when you're doing
something big or you got something good going on. You'll
be surprised what the challenges that come your way about
the different.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Things you need to do should have done. They'll sue
you if you don't dress right, like.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
They'll find anything to nitpick or just point at you
just so you can't finish your project. And you still
was able to finish the project. So I tell people,
I understand, you know, times is hard, but you ain't
gotta ssume me for everything. So you know, just let's
have a talk. Conversation go a long way exactly, you know,
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and people don't like to talk. I learned is that
special with music? I was just saying my last show
or a lot of artists like beefing with each other.
If you know, there's like the music scene right now,
it's a lot of yeah, who what who? I came
to explain, But I'm learning we can really learn from
each other just by doing music, if you really think
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about it. That's why I want to have a network
party where everybody could come together and really talk about
it's gonna be in January. Hey, I might be home
there are you? Definitely, she definitely just made the list.
We have some some trophies we definitely give away to
our special guys. We definitely got some stuff going on,
some giveaways for the special guests.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
They've been coming to connect heavy.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
So I want to bring people together, sit down, talk
about experiences. I think about the live band. I'm rereadly
looking into that. That might be nice to have somebody
play live band everything everything too.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I make most of the arrangements and things, and you know,
Jesse also plays drums, so he plays often with me.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
See she everything come together? This might be right, be
right direct.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I got a lot of friends here at Northwestern who
go to the music school here.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Super Oh that would be nice to bring that part
of the Okay, so many talented musicians I've met through
here that I've gotten the pleasure to work with as
well too, Like there's so much culture and hard in Chicago,
and I love like working with Chicago artists all the time.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Oh, that's gonna be that's gonna be nice. That's gonna
be really nice.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Said right before we go on break, we're gonna dive
into a lot of what you said is release party. Yes,
but we're gonna take a break. That way, we could
really talk about that. I know that was quick, so
makes you guys calling at seven o eight two two
three eight nine five three, don't forget to feed your
brain on and to let your radio connect the dots.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
But we could still talk about when you release the song? Yeah,
when did you release it? I released it September nineteenth people,
so this year?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yes, okay, okay?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
And this was you release it in Boston or they
were just on a platforms everywhere you can I'm sorry,
I do not mean to self plug.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
But it's everywhere. You can find it on Soundclouds, Spotify,
Apple Music, Pandora's everywhere.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Okay, so I definitely was fine everywhere. I was definitely
checking some things out. And your shout out to your followers, Yeah,
shout out.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
To my follows.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I'm on live stream right now. Sorry, I didn't mean
to like not say hey to y'all, but guys.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
So much for popping out. Definite shoutouts. Shout out during
the breakout.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Also check in with y'all to see how y'all feeling
and answer some questions as well.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
We didn't want to leave them out.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Y'all.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Y'all part of the family too. I'm gonna start.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Looking over here to which well, we still got a
little time, just the knowledge and real quick, we're gonna
keep it going.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Thank you, guys. I see people joining in, Hello, Hello, Hello,
Who do we have in here? You say? They tapping?
They tapping in?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
How was the support with the music did a lot
of people?
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Was the feedback? So many people came, So many people came.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
To the release party, and it was I felt so
overwhelmed with the reception. I was I was just happy
if one person even listened to the record, to be honest,
and I knew that my family obviously was gonna tune in.
My mom was ready. She was ready at eleven fifty
nine on the dot waiting for it to drop. At
twelve am, Okay said she was ready. But just the
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perception that I got from my classmates at school as well,
I was so happy and grateful and just even from
around the world, like I have strangers who are making
tiktoks and dance into my songs, Like I've never experienced
like that amount of love on something that I put
out into the world like that, and it was it
was such an amazing experience, and it's I'm still getting,
you know, messages and things.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Dance.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I think we should do a TikTok dance too, you know,
so everybody around. Yes, I have al I have an
audio plan during the break so we can do something,
I think real quick though.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
And like initially when everyone came to the party and
then you played the song for the first time and
you heard everyone like singing along to it and they
listen to it, it means that they carry yeah and
more and obviously that they liked it, But it was
so amazing to see all these peers and especially so
peers of ours at Berkeley who have that year, who
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are such harsh critics, not really on themselves but on
the rest of us, because they're still trying to find
their place here at Berkeley.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I think that it was.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
It's enough of the words. I cannot describe how much
love I felt from it too.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yea, all that together, I agree, I definitely agree.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, the turnout was incredible, like because we did a
thing where we played the song and then I had
some people who usually perform with me to do the
dance with me because I have a signature dance for
the record. And the fact that people who I didn't
even know for real came up and they were doing
the dance too, and they were sinking along. It was
such an emotional moment for me, and it really showed
me the possibility of where this.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Could take me.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
For sure, it's still taking it and it's still taking
oh man, So the releast part really was it?
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Did you take a lot of pictures?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yes, it took a lot of pictures, all the pictures,
lots of videos and I'm still posting videos from that too,
so I have a lot stocked up.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, when you might be at the right place at
the right time, because you know, I do a lot
of bookings with performances. Oh yes, yeah, different places, travel,
they do so much things, not like for churches or
back to school.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
You got giveaways.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I just had to giveaway for Connect the Dots at
the school for kids, so cool, you know, so everybody
ate good for free and we had the horses, the
bouncing house, you know, uh, free book bass, free supplies,
and then I had us performing for the kids. So
it was all types of people from the neighborhood just
(26:17):
coming out. It was it was definitely hot that day,
but they came out, they supported everyone.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
It was really dope.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
And then I have I had Halloween parties all year.
It was every holiday.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
We try to do something I love to give back to.
I would love to be a part of the show
supporting every way. And if you haven't have been out,
definitely shouted out to my followers as well, because they love,
you know, showing their support as well.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
They're loyal.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
As you said, December coming up, so we've got the
Secret Center coming out. We'll be dropping random things, so
definitely you could. I'm gonna lets you pick a random
supporter that you want to give back to. We're gonna
make sure we're gonna give a soulful dinner on us.
So you could pick one random person and then we'll made.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Sure they're good. We're gonna definitely take her.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
The person referrals you, she got a gift on us
as well, so you know it's Thanksgiving coming up, so
we're gonna make sure they eat good. Then December coming up,
so that's a secret center. So well we're doing is
the hacks and gloves. I always thinking about the soup
and chili. Something simple, small with people kind of get
your head, gets your gloves, get a bite to go,
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you know, because you don't know how the weather gonna be.
So we're just gonna keep it open ear just to
make something quick. Either way it goes because the ones
that definitely been switching up on us. Okay, so something
about you. You're a songwriter producer, Yeah, come on, blad
raw storytelling.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
You got the.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
College thing going on and now you're nineteen, you finish
up college. How many songs you got out besides that
one that's the only one you focus on.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Its actually my debut, but I'll tell everyone right now,
I'm definitely working on the EP and that will be
released very very soon.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
So I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
And a lot of the songs are songs that I've
written around the time of Denim, but there are also
some songs that are new, and I don't want to
say too much without spoiling, but I will say that
you can expect a lot of storytelling, a lot of
conceptualism and creativity that you also got with Denim as well,
a lot of everything over the top as usual, but
you can see a lot of that storyline start to
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flow into other songs with this EP. So I'm excited
to get it out into the world and people to listen.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
And what would you tell your following, your fans now,
what would you tell them now, just as an opening
ear as you're going through the process, I would say
that it will definitely live up to the hype of Denim,
and you can expect a lot more intimacy and you
will be able to see a lot more into my
(28:52):
world as well and to get because I want to
create a space where we get to know each other
on a deeper level, and I feel like with this
ep It will be a great and reduction to Sydney
Sanna and the type of world that I'll be able
to cultivate, not even just now but in the future.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And also thank you, thank you, thank you so much
for streaming. People are still listening. I love you guys
so much, and thank you.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
And I know you know say numbers don't lie, so
I know it's keeping track of everything that's coming in.
I was looking at your pages, like your Instagram, your
Facebook and everything.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
You'd be surprised to how many new listeners come along.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yes, so made sure you have a website, business cards,
you have any business cards?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yes, I have business cards, also have a website and everything.
I also post like weekly updates on everything about shows
I have coming up and things.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
And I'm also very much.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I'm kind of old school, so I love word of mouth.
We always hang up posters. We take an evening, me
and Jesse, we hang up posters around campus, around Boston
and everywhere too, So we definitely make sure to spec
the word about everything we got coming up.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Okay, so we're gonna take a real break, real quick,
and then we're gonna come back. As I was worded
of diving said, we're gonna come. We're gonna come right
around and talk to 'em.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah, yeah, Oh.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Then you came in from a rockie place clipping books over.
I can tell your night.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
The roads are slimming, gun stay.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
But I know that I'm gonna be okay.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Chimps keep it pushing, city moving, gutted and my jobs.
Then I'm, then I'm, then I'm, then I'm then I'm
don't chats keep it pushing, city moving, gutted and my jous.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Sometimes I grown my feet jeans may seems to in
my dreams. Double work the stitch and call it times
to because sometimes and change my luck. It is that
happened sometimes too times so grown my fet.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Maybe things feel and mud draps gotta switch the fabric lug.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
It's magic because how we're moving up before you don't
got bucket is the magic.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Then then then then I'm down. Then i'm jeans keep
it pushing, steady moving, got it in my chains.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Then I'm then I'm then I'm then I'm down, Then.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I'm jams keep it pushing, steady moving, got it in
my jobs.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Then I then I'm, then I'm then I'm down. Then
jeans keep it pushing, steady moving, got it in my jobs.
Then I'm then I'm then I'm down, down down jeans.
Keep it pushing, steady moving, got it in my jeans.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
And Jean's running out of town to chase the clouds?
Speaker 5 (31:35):
One, Does it ever ever really starts? Jean, it's running
at it time to chase the cold? Does it ever
sid stop stop?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I feels like tap tap back.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
In Workaholics, we connect the dots on intellect. Your radio
feeds your brain. My special guest was diving in right
into the background of her journey.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
What you say, trust the process? Now the business side
of it.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
What you say you got everybody depending on you to
make sure you push this song and your release party say,
it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Of things you didn't expect. So what do you expect?
Good question? Good question? What do you expect from this
from just dn them in general? Just like the release
the whole process of.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
As an artist, as a this journey, Cause, like you said,
the journey is really where it's at. Absolutely, So it's like,
what do you expect from the whole project of releasing
this as a person as a business, Well, you know, everything.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
You have to do is in order that's a really
good question.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
It's just like testimony, right, It's like.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
You know, actually, yeah, we were talking about this on
the way here.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
And I think something that's so important and something unique
about the record in general is that I, yes, these
experiences that I wrote about in the song dnim about
like transitioning and you know, dealing with you know, friendship
and transition and starting things you know, new and starting fresh.
I think it's such a new experience and a lot
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of people don't really talk about this in music, where
you write a song, you write a song that you
know you relate to, but you don't really live through
it until, like you get through the process of releasing
music and doing that rollouta I think the record was
healing in a way for me because I was able
to finally, you know, sit back and reflect, like you
went through all of these things, and yes, you're talking
(33:56):
about all these things and the lyrics, but you you
were able to lift through it. And I think the
release had to happen that way, and everything that happened
before that, all the hardships and challenges you know, related
to getting the record out, had to happen because I
wouldn't have been able to facilitate this type connection and
this deep love that I have for the record, also
(34:17):
the connection that I have for my fans as well.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
I think that why a lot of artists stand out nowadays,
because it's so lost on a lot of music found
in the industry is the power and art of vulnerability.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I like that one comes and your role in this business,
come on, tell them about it?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Just managing, just real quick.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
So I'm Sydney's manager and have been since last semester.
I'll just provide a little bit of my background. So
I grew up in Northron, Virginia. I grew up right
in the outskirts of Washington, d C. And I would
go to so many shows. But I'm a creative by heart,
and you know where I see myself is on the
stage as well. But it booking my own gigs back home,
(35:07):
especially with some pretty shady people who didn't necessarily give
me the compensation that I deserved or agreed upon anything
of that sort, taught me the legality of the music
industry and how litigious it is, and how necessary it
is to have contracts. And the most important thing and
the most important tip that I would give to managers, artists, managers,
(35:29):
people who want to start out in the business side
of things. For me, that I say that I am
employed with Sydney is communication, direct communication and never losing
your sense of stuff on that. Don't get don't let
your egos get in the way. Just be upfront people
to only honest.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
That's how you want to do it, you know.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
So I take my experience as a creative and as
a musician into my managerial role with Sydney. And I think,
you know, we were talking about this on the way here,
that it's helped me a lot as a manager, and
it's helped her on the receiving end. And that's why
I think we work so well together. And you know,
we just keep growing as an entity together, you know,
(36:13):
separately and cohesively, and I think that's the beautiful thing
about it. But it's really important to have that communication
and for me to keep God at the center of
it all.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
And you definitely, you guys definitely have to come back.
This was just to get your homes She said, Hey,
welcome to connect the dots, just to let them know
who you are and why you in rotation.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Like I said, someone.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Spoke highly of you, so that least you know your
music definitely going places, and when you come back, they
be like she already coming back. They're gonna know a
little something about the song. And you have people definitely
getting a tune with things that's after college or why
you're still in college and things. But how can they
follow you? How can they find you? How can they
(36:58):
keep in touch? Oh?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I am the Sydney Sonna on Instagram t h E
Sydney s y d n E y sona s A
n A A. That's on d Sydney. So now that's
on Instagram. That's also on TikTok. You can also find
me on Facebook. I'm on Twitter, I'm on YouTube, and
for streaming services, you can find me on Spotify, Pandora,
(37:22):
Apple Music, SoundCloud. I'm everywhere, and yeah, I keep I
make sure to update a lot on Instagram and I
also post tiktoks of my performances and performance reels. I
try to go live often too. I think now I
need to go back on live because I haven't. I've
been lacking a little bit. But everything, Yeah, it's everything,
(37:43):
every it's everything. But I find that the people who
enjoy my music the most, they love the visuals and
I been making sure to feed them that too. And
I'm also graduating college next semester, so I'll be going
with Berkeley with my bachelor's degree. So I'm very blessed
and excited to you know, be done and you know,
move on. And it's not like I'm done with Berkeley,
like I always will be around in Boston and doing
(38:06):
gigs and connected with like my classmates and everything. But
I'll definitely be updating and performing as usual. So I
will definitely be keeping you updated.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Yeah, you gotta keep them updated, and I know you
sure gonna share a lot of things that's going on
with things she got going on. So how can they
tap in with you? Yes, so they want to book?
What if a birthday coming? How can they How can
they found you directly? Do they have a page a
number of email?
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Right so on on Instagram? On ig My Instagram handle
is Jesse Tron Music, j E. S. S E C
h O and Music and please feel free to reach
out and DM. You know, Sidney and I are looking
for artists that we might want to help them grow
and mentor we definitely want to be you know, working
on the development side because I know that you like
(38:53):
to work with younger people and you know, you guys
do a lot of outreach, so we'd love to help
any the community grow in that side.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
I love working with the community and just you know,
connecting with other people and like minded people.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
So we're always like, you know, we're always down to
help you.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Definitely connected for December and January, yes, but January is
really to give to really highlight you guys again. So
it's just a network probably for you guys to get
you you know, your trophies, to eat good, your part
of rotations. When you do come back, we can talk
about everything that's going on, you know, for this year,
because New Year's is where we're at, so it's gonna
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be towards the end of January, we're gonna give back
to the youth or all ages, the gloves, the hats.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
And things like them.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
I made sure I reached out to the Live Band. Yes,
so definitely let me know about the Live Band. Yes,
I want to put something together for sure about that
and a lot of kids that I think they need
a lot of leadership.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
It's a lot of following going on.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
I think we need to take things back because Washington
News these days, you see, the kids is highlighting right now.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
So it's time to.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Art and music and it's and its whole is a
form of resistance, you know, it's it's acting for artistry
and standing up for everyone.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
You know, we really have to.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
We were talking on the way here and we were
talking about how fundamental music is and just like everything
even with education. I mean, I was so blessed to
have a family growing up where every music was with everything,
like just from like my ABC's to like just learning
different things. Everything was put into a song. Like I
learned how to spell my name because my parents made
it into a song. And just like having that with
(40:34):
you and like just having music as a way because
it's a form of expression. For me, writing music and
putting it out, even just listening to music is therapy
for me. And I think what you I believe in
what you feed into your body and word of you know,
power of the tongue, like that is so important. What
you feed into your soul and what you put out
that's so importantly.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
You live and breathe it.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Yeah, really do absolutely, So we're gonna have to really
come back and chop it up again, say and it's
your whole shade Shade rom Entertainment. She just wants to
let you guys know. It's a lot of things in rotation.
New Year's coming up. Any any major goal before we leave,
any major goal before this year's up.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
I am gonna be doing a couple more performances. I'm
working on a live recording to put out for the
fans for the Christmas holidays. Okay, and you may be
getting a little extra something, So I don't know if
you follow me on Spotify, Apple Music, but make sure
you have those notifications on because.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
You might get a little surprised. I know that's right.
And how you gonna leave them? Anything major this year
before we leave?
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Yeah, I got some performances coming up in Boston. You know,
I'm playing with a lot of singer songwriters and you know,
just here helping support Sydney along with growing my artistry.
Stay tuned for my releases as well. You can stay
tuned on my Instagram and TikTok was just just my name,
Jesse Chahan. You guys can be expecting things and then
in the coming months.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Well, I think I'm gonna have to make a visit
to support so definitely.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
You know we're gonna come out the yeah yes and
before you leave again, makes you guys, download, follow, air share,
promote anything on all platforms.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
We are here to connect on internetial radio and we
are out. Yeah yeah. That song there is where it is.
Thank you, Yeah, I said it. I didn't know this
filter was going on sit right here on YouTube. This
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sound was in the saving, so it's on YouTube everywhere.
Speaker 5 (42:40):
Came up from books
I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Thank you so much the Intellectual Radio for having me.
And you know, shout out to my messenger Jesse as well.
Give a huge shout out to him.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Come on, Jesse than here.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yes, But before we start to dive in everything, I
always do a prayer. Just let you know we all
pray for every everything were going through and everything that's
going on. Dear God, pray for strength to keep going
even when life feels heavy, reminding that every battle has purpose,
every delay has a meaning, and every prayer has has
been heard. Fill my heart with the courage to trust
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that you are working behind the scenes. Give me peace,
courage and everything I need to breakthroughs. We should say
breakthroughs is going on and your name Jesus, our prayer
a man. I also have a mission statement. Our mission
on Connected dot's building healthy relationships with all ages, doing
the process of growing and glowing together as a team.
(00:55):
Create opportunities ideas by providing a safe environment to conduct
bus business experience, to share, leave a mark on our community,
to relate, find out the flowers and things that's going on,
and connect with all over the world.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So what you say, We're gonna dive right into it. Okay,
let's do it.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
So we're gonna go into your background. When did you
start doing music.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I think music has always been a very huge part
of me. I mean, my family has always loved music,
and it's very, very much so been musically inclined. I
started singing ever since I could talk, and I've been
writing ever since. Like I started, I've always been freestyling
and writing my little songs. And I think I got
into poetry at a young age, around like eight or
(01:40):
nine years old. Yeah, and I remember when we had
an event in third grade, we had a poetry competition
and one of my poems actually got published, and I
think I started turning that into songwriting as well and
just combining the two. And ever since then, it's been,
you know, history. But I think I just started to
take my career seriously around twenty nineteen, a little bit
(02:02):
before the pandemic, and I think around that time, I
was just in my room, just writing, experimenting with production
a little bit. I didn't know too much at the time,
but I was just experimenting and allowing myself to create.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
And I started doing some gigs.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I got affiliated with Collaboraction around Chicago and we did
some gigs and I realized how much I love performing
and creating an art mixed with social justice and all
of that. And I think near high schools when I
decided I wanted to take it seriously.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, and that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
So you was in school while he was doing the
music right, And a lot of people don't know that's
really how it starts.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
That's really how it starts.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
A lot of people don't know that with the being
drums on the desk. You know, it might come from
just a different type of route. And then you grow
into it and you start writing at sixteen and things
like that. So I know you had to deal with
a lot of challenges just trying to shape up your
I call it artist development, you know, because when you
go into it, you gotta do all types of you know, styles,
(02:59):
just which one is yours, because you might start one
where you might end up another. Like I might start
rapping fast, but it might be good in the slow lane.
So what's the challenges behind writing? Like, is you a
fast writer slow writer?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It really depends because I do so many different genres
I do like R and B pops. Sometimes I feel
like right now I'm tapping into my singer songwriter, like
I also rap and stuff too, So it really just depends.
And I think being a creative where you're inspired by
so many different fields of music and so many different
pieces of art, sometimes I feel like for me and
(03:35):
maybe other creatives out there can relate as well. I
get so inspired where I have too many ideas, and
sometimes I'm trying to piece together like what fits where,
And you know, I feel like sometimes we have so
many ideas it can be a little difficult to try
to consolidate and figure out what belongs with. I feel
like every lyric that needs to have a home, and yeah,
(03:55):
I just feel like that's so important. So I feel
like at this stage right now, that's been the most.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Difficult for me.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
But I think that's good though, because that means it's genuine,
it comes from a real place.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
To come back to it, sometimes you just can't. Yeah,
So what else are the challenges you face is doing
an artist? I think right now just like experimenting and
figuring out what works for you and just trying to
figure out the exact message that you want to put out.
(04:28):
And also like we're doing this independently like as of
right now, like it's been me from the jump, and
obviously I've had my amazing parents to help me along
the way, but once I got to school, like it
really has been especially this last semester really has been
me and Jesse, like trying to navigate this type of
thing and make it work and you know, being your
own team and like having to navigate that because I
(04:49):
find it so important to be the face if you're
going to be an artist, to dip into every single thing,
like even though producing is in your thing, be at
the sessions, you know, if you're you know, if writing
isn't really your things show up And I think it's
so important, especially for me, like I want to be
in every single thing, but sometimes it can be difficult
when you don't have the backing.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
It's being independent and starting.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Out, and you gotta let them know being young because
even when I started, I was young as well, but
it's like being a student.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, And I watched other people our ages. That's young.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
They know how to raise their own money, they know
how to go hustle and work for what they want,
and they're vesting to their own CDs. That's how I
really started with the CDs and passing now with a
picture on and things like that. Or even when I
was fifteen fourteen, I was so used to shows being
on the flyer every other weekend, and that's crazy how
they had things going on at the time for artists.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So to see me still.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Performing, it's like just a magic performing for fifteen years.
To me, it's like doing a tour locally. Like I
have experience of tour. It's just been in a circle.
But you still experience just doing a lot of things
consistantly over and over again. And a lot of people
don't stick into doing music. It's like they get into
it and they get out of it.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
How much do you think that social media has changed
that game for yourself?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I think in a good way.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yes, it changed in good ways where yes, you could
get more access to things quicker, you could show things
quicker all over the world. You can get paid off
things digitally, yes, But you know, but I'm still kind
of old fashioned a way, like I like the fact
that people could still come out to see you, or
because it pushed you to come out. If everybody is
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just washing us on the screen, it's like we never
got that we're doing.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
This all day, all day, all day.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yes, I feel like, actually laugh with people after they
see performed.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
They can get some pointers.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Or you know, you could take pictures with people. That's more,
you know, connecting with people versus just I can't really
get to know you over the phone, you know, because
you could.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You know, that's crazy though.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Not that artistry isn't found in social media, not that
all these people on social media have have what it takes.
But when you see that in real life, that's raw. Yeah,
that's raw artistry and you can feel you could feel it,
you can feel it right in front of them, and
you can really bounce back and forth with that energy.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Just like now, we connected through I didn't know who
you was before I met her, but I got to
know her before I met her, And that's crazy. So
a lot of shout out to the people to refer you,
your family, your friends. You know, she's definitely in the building.
Least in the building. You know, she definitely referrals your
She was telling me about you, and I did all
my notes like oh man, you know, I'm challenge. She
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was ready and the traffic was nice, it was meant
to come straight through.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I'm like, whoa, we got here early, right on time.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, I had to get used to it because you
know the difference between like going home and then here.
You know, places be small, then as you go it
gets bigger. You get to see bigger buildings, and then
as you go back home things get smaller. So you
realize you ain't gonna be able to grow if you
don't get out there. You have to take chances and
really go out and connect with others, because if you
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stand at one spot, how can you move?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
You need to move. Everybody gave me to share what's
going on. You know.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I want to say this because I think I think
that we both relate to this. Why we went to Berkeley.
I think that you know where we where we grew up,
we were both like not not to our own horns,
but we were big fish. We're a big fish in
like like a pond, you know. But then when we
come to Berkeley we realize this, there's a whole ocean
(08:40):
right in front of us, right right, So it's really
all perspective.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
It is.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
For sure, you're talking about and you've got to talk
about the college. You gotta talk about. Come on, some
excited to get into it, talk about let them know.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, So I graduated high school year early at sixteen,
and I applied to Berkeley in February. Was February before
I was going to graduate as in my junior year,
but technically my senior year, and that's when actually when
I started writing Denim Too.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I wrote it for the audition, and I.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Was thinking about how because at that point, I obviously
knew that I wanted to do music, but I've also
been interested in so many different things, like I love psychology,
and I love specifically how music affects to bring. Like
that's always been like that one thing that I love,
and I still pursue that now, like I'm minoring in
music therapy. But it was always a thing of whether
I wanted to pursue music over medical, you know, or.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Like vice versa.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
So I was looking at some schools and I was
so blessed to be able to be offered so many
full scholarships in my state of Indiana, which I was
so blessed to receive. But I decided just on a whim.
I didn't know too much about Berkeley, but I decided
to just go for it and do the audition, and
luckily they had an audition spot in Chicago, so I
pulled up.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I sang a couple of songs.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I sang a musical theater song, and I also sang
Denim because I wanted to show my versatility. And I
felt really good about the audition. I felt like it
didn't feel like an audition. It felt like I was
at like I was where. Yeah, it felt like I
was exactly where I needed to be. And I wasn't
expecting too much of it. I knew that I was,
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like I hopefully I got in. I felt really confident.
I knew I was I may have gotten it. I
felt a little confident about that, but no, I did
not realize that I was gonna be able to get
a full ride, scholarship or anything like that, which I'm
so blessous.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
You manifested. You say this is like a day to
day type joint. You say, this is this type of
song you could play day to day, you know, celebrate
black excellence. You was talking about a lot of things
to symbolize growth and things like that, and then you're
yon doing this. Then your bounce back. Ye see, I
say I was reading that. Boy know about that behind
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the scenes, you know a lot of things that it
takes to do music as a producer, engineer, the beats,
the studio, the scheduling, the time, the book, then the sound,
the voice. What are your voices out? You gotta you
gotta drink tea, you gotta eat soup.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You gotta do a lot of things just to maintain
a character.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
That's what I tell people artists development, because we don't
think about things like that as we go on.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
We just oh, I'm just doing music.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Oh no, But when things go wrong, you don't have
no type of journal, no type of notes, no type
of I call it like a emergency plan, Like things
go wrong, what I'm gonna do? You need some type
of team, you need some type of resources or investments safe.
It's anything that helps you as an artist when things
go wrong. I would definitely highlight that. So bounce back.
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You gotta talk about that because they gotta really understand
what the song comes from.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
This is the This is like a baby, so this
is the baby shout.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
This is really telling them about it.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yes, I'm trying to figure out how to word this
without getting I don't want to get to I don't
want to get messy.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
But it was, it was.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It was nasty to come up it was it the
right So basically I was you know, you knew about
the story about how I created Dunim and how I
did this before high school people I performed this song.
I got the opportunity to perform it at Lollapalooza with collaboraction,
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which I was so blessed to have that opportunity. So
people knew this song. I people were familiar with the song,
it just wasn't produced. So once I get to Berkeley,
it was my first semester and I meet with this
producer and I thought we had a great relationship, but
things got very nasty to where the point where they
thought that they could put their face on my on
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my on my record. Mind you, the experiences that I
I was talking about about coming like you didn't come
up from a rocky place I was doing. I came
up from a rocky place, you know, and just going
through that. And I was seventeen at the time. I
was seventeen freshman year in college, and I feel at
the time I was also very vulnerable, but I was
also so eager and excited to be able to create
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and put my music out into the world. But it
was such a good learning experience because after that I
had contracts for everything, I had everything in place to
make sure everything was where it needed to be and
be able to pursue it. And it definitely put me
in a rut for the rest of the semester. But
luckily the producer who on and now shout out Cocosa,
but he reached out and I was like, hey, I
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think this whole situation is really messed up, but I
want to help you. I want to be able to
work with you. So we got together that summer and
worked on the record. We spent a couple more semesters
on it. We were able to put it out and
I'm grateful for the opportunity to be able to share
my story.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
And you know it was crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
You're still gonna still you still gonna tell it because
I was what I tell people you in between blessings exactly,
don't worry, I tell sometimes, don't worry about the results,
trust the process astely. I'll tell you about the end later,
but right now, let me tell you how I'm getting
to my results, because they don't know about them.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Hard and nice.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
When you put down and pin picked it up, put
down a pin piecked it up and the song is
out there, so you'd be like, oh, you know, sometimes
you got a little back and really think about the
times you want to give up on something, but you
still pushing towards it, And you got to remind you
you got all these influences around, all these people around you.
You got different type of styles around you in school,
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you got this going on your personal life. Sometimes certain
things will take over you have to take a break
and it's okay. Sometimes it's certain things is not ready
for certain seasons.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I agree, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
It's crazy to say it, but we want things to
happen this season, but it's really meant to happen that
season because this season is meant for.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You to go through it alone.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I think that was one of the big things too
with this record too, because people were expecting it to
come out so much sooner because I have started working
on it so much longer, and with the situation with
the producer, people were still waiting on the record. They're like, so,
when are you gonna drop it? And I think that
added so much pressure onto me. And then when you
were talking about like when need to stop? I have
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so many moments where I was like do I continue
doing this? Like I started to question myself. I'm like,
do I still have it? Like do I still have
it in me to finish this record? Because at the
same time, like, yes, I wanted to get it out
just much, just as much as everyone else. But at
the same time, I was still sitting there like I
want to take my time with this. I never my
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family taught me at a very young age and never
rush anything. And it's always on in God's timing, which
I believe in, and I think that I really want
to spend time with the record, and I just want
people to know that I will never be on your timing,
like I will always be on my own timing and
getting that record out the way that I wanted it
to be, I wouldn't change a thing at the end
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of the day. And then I'm learning too, when you're
going through it at a young age, the pressure is real.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
It's real because when I first tried to music.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
School too, because I was in middle school started I
started out with the little drums and things. And when
I started rapping, and I probably went on beat. I
just start rapping, you know. So when I was around
other people that probably better than me. That's what really
inspired me.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Not knowing.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
See, I didn't know how to rap, but I paid
attention how they was rapping and how they got to
it and flowing. I said, okay, I just need a
little couple of pointers. But a lot of people don't understand.
Sometimes practices really do make perfect. You gotta really keep
doing it over and over and over again just to
get it down passed. Sometimes it might take you longer
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than others. It's okay, but everything's not meant for everybody too.
But if you know you have a dream to do it,
you gotta do it all bad. You gotta do it
because you don't know the outcoming til you do it
exact and if it don't work out, fine, you did it.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Scratch out you Liz.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
But if you could look back and see the results
of your dreams like this, you have to like right now,
this is all over the place, so you have to
keep pushing it good into shows.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Have booking.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I know you booking too, Hey, we booking. So do
you perform live off then or yes?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yes, that is like my main thing, Like I love,
I crave like that type of live intimacy in my
performances and when and I think Jesse can also attest
to this too, like when I do a show like
we do it big, like I get a full band,
we get a live band, I get strings, I get.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I teach them choreo like I really dance it all.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yes, I whip everyone in the shape because I think
that it doesn't matter what stage you're in a what veanyard,
I don't care if we're in a cafe.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Like you, you got to perform like it's your last.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And I think it's so important and I love I
just love live performance because that's something that you can't
get off.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Of, just like a radio clip or a real exactly
k or.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Something you sit now, I get them as and everything
they might perform for you.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
You might look up, you didn't perform. They didn't even
realize it.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
So and I noticed, like even with past experience, it's
a lot of people that will hinder you, like they'll
hold you up or doubt you or like you said,
with the past or anybody deal with you be surprised.
I mean people you gonna deal with before you get
to the right people. You know, you start with these
what did I say? You? You can create your own team,
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but I also learned that you really can't train people
how to do a job, or mean, how to be
a person. You gonna train them how to do a job,
you know. But if you pay attention toy personalities and
you know that they ready for it, you will know.
But when things are hard for you, that's like God
saying it ain't gonna work out.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
When it gets too hard, you know it's too hard.
You didn't did all your options.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Oh yeah, that's when it's time to reset, redirect.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yes, you'd be surprised.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
You'd be surprised when you didn't everything you could to
keep something going, and a lot of people around you're
just not meant to go.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
And that's why I'm glad you was able to have
new people to connect with and start fresh. When you
said new season to bring it in. Now you say
you at seventeen, you was a thousand miles away from home, A.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Thousand miles away from home. Yeah, so you really had
the guts to say I'm going to just go ahead
and do it.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, I think restarting and that was one thing that
I was afraid of because, you know, especially because this
was like my first semester of college, like you're trying
to get adjusted, like you have, you made so many
meaningful connections, and to go through something like that, because
this person was starting to assue.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Me over my own song at seventeen years old.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
It was like, now you requarted seventeen requarter at seventeen,
Oh lord, so how did it?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But I think, like I was saying, yeah, I think
I went through all of that.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
But at the same time, I'm so blessed to like
to go through the experience and know that it's okay
to start over, because I feel like that was God's
way of showing me that I felt too comfortable and
it's you got to get uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
It's scary to find your pe, especially when you're doing
something big or you got something good going on. You'll
be surprised what the challenges that come your way about
the different.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Things you need to do should have done. They'll sue
you if you don't dress right, like.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
They'll find anything to nitpick or just point at you
just so you can't finish your project. And you still
was able to finish the project. So I tell people,
I understand, you know, times is hard, but you ain't
gotta ssume me for everything. So you know, just let's
have a talk. Conversation go a long way exactly, you know,
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and people don't like to talk. I learned is that
special with music? I was just saying my last show
or a lot of artists like beefing with each other.
If you know, there's like the music scene right now,
it's a lot of yeah, who what who? I came
to explain, But I'm learning we can really learn from
each other just by doing music, if you really think
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about it. That's why I want to have a network
party where everybody could come together and really talk about
it's gonna be in January. Hey, I might be home
there are you? Definitely, she definitely just made the list.
We have some some trophies we definitely give away to
our special guys. We definitely got some stuff going on,
some giveaways for the special guests.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
They've been coming to connect heavy.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
So I want to bring people together, sit down, talk
about experiences. I think about the live band. I'm rereadly
looking into that. That might be nice to have somebody
play live band everything everything too.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I make most of the arrangements and things, and you know,
Jesse also plays drums, so he plays often with me.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
See she everything come together? This might be right, be
right direct.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I got a lot of friends here at Northwestern who
go to the music school here.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Super Oh that would be nice to bring that part
of the Okay, so many talented musicians I've met through
here that I've gotten the pleasure to work with as
well too, Like there's so much culture and hard in Chicago,
and I love like working with Chicago artists all the time.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Oh, that's gonna be that's gonna be nice. That's gonna
be really nice.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Said right before we go on break, we're gonna dive
into a lot of what you said is release party. Yes,
but we're gonna take a break. That way, we could
really talk about that. I know that was quick, so
makes you guys calling at seven o eight two two
three eight nine five three, don't forget to feed your
brain on and to let your radio connect the dots.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
But we could still talk about when you release the song? Yeah,
when did you release it? I released it September nineteenth people,
so this year?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yes, okay, okay?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
And this was you release it in Boston or they
were just on a platforms everywhere you can I'm sorry,
I do not mean to self plug.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
But it's everywhere. You can find it on Soundclouds, Spotify,
Apple Music, Pandora's everywhere.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Okay, so I definitely was fine everywhere. I was definitely
checking some things out. And your shout out to your followers, Yeah,
shout out.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
To my follows.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I'm on live stream right now. Sorry, I didn't mean
to like not say hey to y'all, but guys.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
So much for popping out. Definite shoutouts. Shout out during
the breakout.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Also check in with y'all to see how y'all feeling
and answer some questions as well.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
We didn't want to leave them out.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Y'all.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Y'all part of the family too. I'm gonna start.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Looking over here to which well, we still got a
little time, just the knowledge and real quick, we're gonna
keep it going.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Thank you, guys. I see people joining in, Hello, Hello, Hello,
Who do we have in here? You say? They tapping?
They tapping in?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
How was the support with the music did a lot
of people?
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Was the feedback? So many people came, So many people came.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
To the release party, and it was I felt so
overwhelmed with the reception. I was I was just happy
if one person even listened to the record, to be honest,
and I knew that my family obviously was gonna tune in.
My mom was ready. She was ready at eleven fifty
nine on the dot waiting for it to drop. At
twelve am, Okay said she was ready. But just the
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perception that I got from my classmates at school as well,
I was so happy and grateful and just even from
around the world, like I have strangers who are making
tiktoks and dance into my songs, Like I've never experienced
like that amount of love on something that I put
out into the world like that, and it was it
was such an amazing experience, and it's I'm still getting,
you know, messages and things.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Dance.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I think we should do a TikTok dance too, you know,
so everybody around. Yes, I have al I have an
audio plan during the break so we can do something,
I think real quick though.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
And like initially when everyone came to the party and
then you played the song for the first time and
you heard everyone like singing along to it and they
listen to it, it means that they carry yeah and
more and obviously that they liked it, But it was
so amazing to see all these peers and especially so
peers of ours at Berkeley who have that year, who
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are such harsh critics, not really on themselves but on
the rest of us, because they're still trying to find
their place here at Berkeley.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I think that it was.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
It's enough of the words. I cannot describe how much
love I felt from it too.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yea, all that together, I agree, I definitely agree.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, the turnout was incredible, like because we did a
thing where we played the song and then I had
some people who usually perform with me to do the
dance with me because I have a signature dance for
the record. And the fact that people who I didn't
even know for real came up and they were doing
the dance too, and they were sinking along. It was
such an emotional moment for me, and it really showed
me the possibility of where this.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Could take me.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
For sure, it's still taking it and it's still taking
oh man, So the releast part really was it?
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Did you take a lot of pictures?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yes, it took a lot of pictures, all the pictures,
lots of videos and I'm still posting videos from that too,
so I have a lot stocked up.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, when you might be at the right place at
the right time, because you know, I do a lot
of bookings with performances. Oh yes, yeah, different places, travel,
they do so much things, not like for churches or
back to school.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
You got giveaways.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I just had to giveaway for Connect the Dots at
the school for kids, so cool, you know, so everybody
ate good for free and we had the horses, the
bouncing house, you know, uh, free book bass, free supplies,
and then I had us performing for the kids. So
it was all types of people from the neighborhood just
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coming out. It was it was definitely hot that day,
but they came out, they supported everyone.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
It was really dope.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
And then I have I had Halloween parties all year.
It was every holiday.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
We try to do something I love to give back to.
I would love to be a part of the show
supporting every way. And if you haven't have been out,
definitely shouted out to my followers as well, because they love,
you know, showing their support as well.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
They're loyal.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
As you said, December coming up, so we've got the
Secret Center coming out. We'll be dropping random things, so
definitely you could. I'm gonna lets you pick a random
supporter that you want to give back to. We're gonna
make sure we're gonna give a soulful dinner on us.
So you could pick one random person and then we'll made.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Sure they're good. We're gonna definitely take her.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
The person referrals you, she got a gift on us
as well, so you know it's Thanksgiving coming up, so
we're gonna make sure they eat good. Then December coming up,
so that's a secret center. So well we're doing is
the hacks and gloves. I always thinking about the soup
and chili. Something simple, small with people kind of get
your head, gets your gloves, get a bite to go,
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you know, because you don't know how the weather gonna be.
So we're just gonna keep it open ear just to
make something quick. Either way it goes because the ones
that definitely been switching up on us. Okay, so something
about you. You're a songwriter producer, Yeah, come on, blad
raw storytelling.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
You got the.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
College thing going on and now you're nineteen, you finish
up college. How many songs you got out besides that
one that's the only one you focus on.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Its actually my debut, but I'll tell everyone right now,
I'm definitely working on the EP and that will be
released very very soon.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
So I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
And a lot of the songs are songs that I've
written around the time of Denim, but there are also
some songs that are new, and I don't want to
say too much without spoiling, but I will say that
you can expect a lot of storytelling, a lot of
conceptualism and creativity that you also got with Denim as well,
a lot of everything over the top as usual, but
you can see a lot of that storyline start to
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flow into other songs with this EP. So I'm excited
to get it out into the world and people to listen.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
And what would you tell your following, your fans now,
what would you tell them now, just as an opening
ear as you're going through the process, I would say
that it will definitely live up to the hype of Denim,
and you can expect a lot more intimacy and you
will be able to see a lot more into my
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world as well and to get because I want to
create a space where we get to know each other
on a deeper level, and I feel like with this
ep It will be a great and reduction to Sydney
Sanna and the type of world that I'll be able
to cultivate, not even just now but in the future.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And also thank you, thank you, thank you so much
for streaming. People are still listening. I love you guys
so much, and thank you.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
And I know you know say numbers don't lie, so
I know it's keeping track of everything that's coming in.
I was looking at your pages, like your Instagram, your
Facebook and everything.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
You'd be surprised to how many new listeners come along.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yes, so made sure you have a website, business cards,
you have any business cards?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yes, I have business cards, also have a website and everything.
I also post like weekly updates on everything about shows
I have coming up and things.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
And I'm also very much.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I'm kind of old school, so I love word of mouth.
We always hang up posters. We take an evening, me
and Jesse, we hang up posters around campus, around Boston
and everywhere too, So we definitely make sure to spec
the word about everything we got coming up.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Okay, so we're gonna take a real break, real quick,
and then we're gonna come back. As I was worded
of diving said, we're gonna come. We're gonna come right
around and talk to 'em.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah, yeah, Oh.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Then you came in from a rockie place clipping books over.
I can tell your night.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
The roads are slimming, gun stay.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
But I know that I'm gonna be okay.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Chimps keep it pushing, city moving, gutted and my jobs.
Then I'm, then I'm, then I'm, then I'm then I'm
don't chats keep it pushing, city moving, gutted and my jous.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Sometimes I grown my feet jeans may seems to in
my dreams. Double work the stitch and call it times
to because sometimes and change my luck. It is that
happened sometimes too times so grown my fet.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Maybe things feel and mud draps gotta switch the fabric lug.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
It's magic because how we're moving up before you don't
got bucket is the magic.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Then then then then I'm down. Then i'm jeans keep
it pushing, steady moving, got it in my chains.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Then I'm then I'm then I'm then I'm down, Then.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I'm jams keep it pushing, steady moving, got it in
my jobs.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Then I then I'm, then I'm then I'm down. Then
jeans keep it pushing, steady moving, got it in my jobs.
Then I'm then I'm then I'm down, down down jeans.
Keep it pushing, steady moving, got it in my jeans.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
And Jean's running out of town to chase the clouds?
Speaker 5 (31:35):
One, Does it ever ever really starts? Jean, it's running
at it time to chase the cold? Does it ever
sid stop stop?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I feels like tap tap back.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
In Workaholics, we connect the dots on intellect. Your radio
feeds your brain. My special guest was diving in right
into the background of her journey.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
What you say, trust the process? Now the business side
of it.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
What you say you got everybody depending on you to
make sure you push this song and your release party say,
it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Of things you didn't expect. So what do you expect?
Good question? Good question? What do you expect from this
from just dn them in general? Just like the release
the whole process of.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
As an artist, as a this journey, Cause, like you said,
the journey is really where it's at. Absolutely, So it's like,
what do you expect from the whole project of releasing
this as a person as a business, Well, you know, everything.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
You have to do is in order that's a really
good question.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
It's just like testimony, right, It's like.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
You know, actually, yeah, we were talking about this on
the way here.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
And I think something that's so important and something unique
about the record in general is that I, yes, these
experiences that I wrote about in the song dnim about
like transitioning and you know, dealing with you know, friendship
and transition and starting things you know, new and starting fresh.
I think it's such a new experience and a lot
(33:35):
of people don't really talk about this in music, where
you write a song, you write a song that you
know you relate to, but you don't really live through
it until, like you get through the process of releasing
music and doing that rollouta I think the record was
healing in a way for me because I was able
to finally, you know, sit back and reflect, like you
went through all of these things, and yes, you're talking
(33:56):
about all these things and the lyrics, but you you
were able to lift through it. And I think the
release had to happen that way, and everything that happened
before that, all the hardships and challenges you know, related
to getting the record out, had to happen because I
wouldn't have been able to facilitate this type connection and
this deep love that I have for the record, also
(34:17):
the connection that I have for my fans as well.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
I think that why a lot of artists stand out nowadays,
because it's so lost on a lot of music found
in the industry is the power and art of vulnerability.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I like that one comes and your role in this business,
come on, tell them about it?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Just managing, just real quick.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
So I'm Sydney's manager and have been since last semester.
I'll just provide a little bit of my background. So
I grew up in Northron, Virginia. I grew up right
in the outskirts of Washington, d C. And I would
go to so many shows. But I'm a creative by heart,
and you know where I see myself is on the
stage as well. But it booking my own gigs back home,
(35:07):
especially with some pretty shady people who didn't necessarily give
me the compensation that I deserved or agreed upon anything
of that sort, taught me the legality of the music
industry and how litigious it is, and how necessary it
is to have contracts. And the most important thing and
the most important tip that I would give to managers, artists, managers,
(35:29):
people who want to start out in the business side
of things. For me, that I say that I am
employed with Sydney is communication, direct communication and never losing
your sense of stuff on that. Don't get don't let
your egos get in the way. Just be upfront people
to only honest.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
That's how you want to do it, you know.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
So I take my experience as a creative and as
a musician into my managerial role with Sydney. And I think,
you know, we were talking about this on the way here,
that it's helped me a lot as a manager, and
it's helped her on the receiving end. And that's why
I think we work so well together. And you know,
we just keep growing as an entity together, you know,
(36:13):
separately and cohesively, and I think that's the beautiful thing
about it. But it's really important to have that communication
and for me to keep God at the center of
it all.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
And you definitely, you guys definitely have to come back.
This was just to get your homes She said, Hey,
welcome to connect the dots, just to let them know
who you are and why you in rotation.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Like I said, someone.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Spoke highly of you, so that least you know your
music definitely going places, and when you come back, they
be like she already coming back. They're gonna know a
little something about the song. And you have people definitely
getting a tune with things that's after college or why
you're still in college and things. But how can they
follow you? How can they find you? How can they
(36:58):
keep in touch? Oh?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I am the Sydney Sonna on Instagram t h E
Sydney s y d n E y sona s A
n A A. That's on d Sydney. So now that's
on Instagram. That's also on TikTok. You can also find
me on Facebook. I'm on Twitter, I'm on YouTube, and
for streaming services, you can find me on Spotify, Pandora,
(37:22):
Apple Music, SoundCloud. I'm everywhere, and yeah, I keep I
make sure to update a lot on Instagram and I
also post tiktoks of my performances and performance reels. I
try to go live often too. I think now I
need to go back on live because I haven't. I've
been lacking a little bit. But everything, Yeah, it's everything,
(37:43):
every it's everything. But I find that the people who
enjoy my music the most, they love the visuals and
I been making sure to feed them that too. And
I'm also graduating college next semester, so I'll be going
with Berkeley with my bachelor's degree. So I'm very blessed
and excited to you know, be done and you know,
move on. And it's not like I'm done with Berkeley,
like I always will be around in Boston and doing
(38:06):
gigs and connected with like my classmates and everything. But
I'll definitely be updating and performing as usual. So I
will definitely be keeping you updated.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Yeah, you gotta keep them updated, and I know you
sure gonna share a lot of things that's going on
with things she got going on. So how can they
tap in with you? Yes, so they want to book?
What if a birthday coming? How can they How can
they found you directly? Do they have a page a
number of email?
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Right so on on Instagram? On ig My Instagram handle
is Jesse Tron Music, j E. S. S E C
h O and Music and please feel free to reach
out and DM. You know, Sidney and I are looking
for artists that we might want to help them grow
and mentor we definitely want to be you know, working
on the development side because I know that you like
(38:53):
to work with younger people and you know, you guys
do a lot of outreach, so we'd love to help
any the community grow in that side.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
I love working with the community and just you know,
connecting with other people and like minded people.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
So we're always like, you know, we're always down to
help you.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Definitely connected for December and January, yes, but January is
really to give to really highlight you guys again. So
it's just a network probably for you guys to get
you you know, your trophies, to eat good, your part
of rotations. When you do come back, we can talk
about everything that's going on, you know, for this year,
because New Year's is where we're at, so it's gonna
(39:30):
be towards the end of January, we're gonna give back
to the youth or all ages, the gloves, the hats.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
And things like them.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
I made sure I reached out to the Live Band. Yes,
so definitely let me know about the Live Band. Yes,
I want to put something together for sure about that
and a lot of kids that I think they need
a lot of leadership.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
It's a lot of following going on.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
I think we need to take things back because Washington
News these days, you see, the kids is highlighting right now.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
So it's time to.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Art and music and it's and its whole is a
form of resistance, you know, it's it's acting for artistry
and standing up for everyone.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
You know, we really have to.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
We were talking on the way here and we were
talking about how fundamental music is and just like everything
even with education. I mean, I was so blessed to
have a family growing up where every music was with everything,
like just from like my ABC's to like just learning
different things. Everything was put into a song. Like I
learned how to spell my name because my parents made
it into a song. And just like having that with
(40:34):
you and like just having music as a way because
it's a form of expression. For me, writing music and
putting it out, even just listening to music is therapy
for me. And I think what you I believe in
what you feed into your body and word of you know,
power of the tongue, like that is so important. What
you feed into your soul and what you put out
that's so importantly.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
You live and breathe it.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Yeah, really do absolutely, So we're gonna have to really
come back and chop it up again, say and it's
your whole shade Shade rom Entertainment. She just wants to
let you guys know. It's a lot of things in rotation.
New Year's coming up. Any any major goal before we leave,
any major goal before this year's up.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
I am gonna be doing a couple more performances. I'm
working on a live recording to put out for the
fans for the Christmas holidays. Okay, and you may be
getting a little extra something, So I don't know if
you follow me on Spotify, Apple Music, but make sure
you have those notifications on because.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
You might get a little surprised. I know that's right.
And how you gonna leave them? Anything major this year
before we leave?
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Yeah, I got some performances coming up in Boston. You know,
I'm playing with a lot of singer songwriters and you know,
just here helping support Sydney along with growing my artistry.
Stay tuned for my releases as well. You can stay
tuned on my Instagram and TikTok was just just my name,
Jesse Chahan. You guys can be expecting things and then
in the coming months.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Well, I think I'm gonna have to make a visit
to support so definitely.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
You know we're gonna come out the yeah yes and
before you leave again, makes you guys, download, follow, air share,
promote anything on all platforms.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
We are here to connect on internetial radio and we
are out. Yeah yeah. That song there is where it is.
Thank you, Yeah, I said it. I didn't know this
filter was going on sit right here on YouTube. This
(42:28):
sound was in the saving, so it's on YouTube everywhere.
Speaker 5 (42:40):
Came up from books
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