October 29, 2025 • 40 mins
Candace Owens declares total WAR on the establishment, demanding transparency in the shocking assassination of Charlie Kirk and exposing "THEY shot him" evidence the FBI is hiding. Clint Russell breaks down the selfie taken seconds after the murder, Pastor McCoy's impossible blood story, and why Turning Point USA insiders are silencing the truth. Tucker Carlson's bombshell Nick Fuentes interview triggers the "woke right" meltdown, proving controlled opposition runs deep. This is the red-pill episode that could blow the 2025 political assassination coverup wide open—subscribe before it's censored. Check out my show over on Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/show/nUTYcMtl4yMuoKHljZWu Become a supporting member of Liberty Lockdown here!: https://libertylockdown.locals.com/ This is where I do monthly AMA's for supporting members only Super valuable stuff! Twitter: https://twitter.com/LibertyLockPod Pickup LL shirts over at https://www.toplobsta.com/products/ll-lakers?_pos=5&_sid=e7319ba4a&_ss=r&variant=40668064186434 NEW DESIGNS JUST DROPPED All links: https://www.libertylockdownpodcast.com/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/libertylockdown As always, if you leave a five star review on Apple Podcasts with your social media handle I'll read it on next weeks show (audio version only)! Love you long time Liberty Lockdown presents a variety of opinions, sometimes opposing and controversial. They are not representative of the host of the podcast. Guests are encouraged to express their opinions in a safe and equitable environment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And I do not want people to mistake what's happening
right now or to wrongly assume my attentions here, So
allow me to be very explicit. Okay, I want war
with all of you. Okay, all of you, and there's
a reason. I'm going to get to that reason a
little bit. I want more with all of you. So
write your articles, issue your statements, email the White House,
(00:22):
reach out for comment. Okay, say whatever it is you
want to say about me. I want war with all
of you because I know I know that this isn't right,
and there is no way you are going to convince
me and the rest of the world that all of
this is normal.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I want war with all of you. Yes, warrior spirit.
That is the warrior spirit that I expect from everyone
I know and love. Be that if they are harmed
or if I am. That's loyalty, that's friendship, that's brotherhood,
that's love, that's family, that's truth, that's justice, that's the
(01:03):
pursuit of the highest ideal. Yes, apps fucking lutely Candice owns.
And I don't know why she's getting so mercilessly attacked
for this position, this mindset, this outlook. I don't understand
why this isn't universal, And I mean that sincerely. Why
is this not the universal approach from Jack Posobic to
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every other person in Charlie's inner circle, Benny Johnson, all
these people, Where are you? Why are you not demanding
to just be absolutely certain that you have the right guy?
And I think at the end of the day, that's
the reason that so many people are looking at you
side eyed, not because they think that you were involved,
(01:48):
but because, as I've said in prior episodes, you're acting
cowardly or worse, and I don't know which, but this
is the reason that you're being questioned. This is the
reason that your audience is fighting against you. This is
the reason that Jack Pisobic came out today and said,
we're going to petition the court to make sure that
this court proceeding is in fact public, because as of
(02:10):
a few hours ago, they're now talking about making it private.
No cameras in the courtroom, no actual disclosures, no transparency,
no justice. That's my opinion. If we don't get to
watch this trial, forget it. It's a cover up. It's
as simple as that. But you've got all these masculine
characters you know, pasobic, former military Matt Walsh and all
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these guys. What is a woman talking about manhood and
masculinity into what it is to be a man in
the patriarchy and defending of the patriarchy and all of them,
all of them pale in comparison. During a time of crisis,
when it matters most to be courageous to stand up
for truth and justice, who steps up a woman candas
owns not y'all. Nope, none of you bitches pathetic, that's
(02:59):
a fact. Sorry, you don't have to like Candice Owans,
and you certainly don't have to agree with her, but
that's the fucking attitude you ought to have. Right now,
I want war with all of you. For what reason
do you possibly trust the FBI or local PD, or
the government or the news media. You have no reason
(03:21):
to trust any of them. Oh, because it's Cash Betel
and Dan Bongino. So now all of a sudden they're trustworthy.
Where are the Epstein docs nowhere to be found? Absolutely
zero reason to trust these people. So if you're going
to pretend is if Candie Owans is just making stuff
up and barking up the wrong tree, and we ought
to just trust the FBI or trust the local cops
(03:41):
to make this investigation, and trust the judicial system to
get it right. You're crazy, You're out of your mind,
Absolutely not, and I don't believe that you believe that either.
So that means that you're either being cowardly or something worse.
Maybe you're BOT. Maybe the funding sources that keep some
of you aloft is in fact tied to other groups
(04:02):
that don't want disclosure, they don't want justice when it
comes to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Maybe it's that simple.
But guess what doesn't make it any better. Doesn't make
you any less cowardly. In many ways, it actually makes
you worse. It means that you're BOT. It means that
you're owned and operated. It means that you're controlled. It
means that you're controlled opposition. To make it explicit, it
(04:24):
means you are literally controlled opposition. And this doesn't just
mean controlled opposition in the sense that, oh, we're going
to uplift some politician who's ultimately going to betray the
American people. You already did that. No, it means controlled
opposition to the level and to the extent that you
will allow for your friend to be murdered in front
of the world and not say a word about it.
(04:46):
It doesn't get any more controlled than that. You are
as empty a vessel, as cowardly as they come. And
if you think that Candice Owns is barking up the
wrong tree, well then how about y'all bark up the
right ones. How about you actually marshal your forces and
your resources and you dig and you actually discover what
(05:06):
she has wrong, Because as of now, it seems to
me as if you guys are all simply avoiding this
story entirely, and if you do lift a finger to
discuss it or decide, deign it necessary to utter a
word about this case at all, it's just to blast
Cannie Owns for being the only one at the highest
(05:28):
levels to actually talk about this stuff. It's weak, and
I think your audience is catching on. So take this
as friendly advice if you want to maintain your audience
or your reputation, or any semblance of I don't know
a soul, do the right thing. Actually start to work
alongside her, Actually try and dig for the truth. We're
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not asking for a miracle here, We're not asking for
the impossible. We're asking for you to be honorable friends
to Charlie Kirk. When you do that, I hope It's
been over six weeks now and none of you have
shown the backbone that she has. It's time and if
you don't, well, then don't expect to maintain your audience.
(06:12):
I think it's that simple. So I guess I'll say
in summary, war all the people that have gone out
there against the mainstream media and said you're going to
call us racist, you're going to call us potential Timothy mcbay's.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Fuck you.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
War, little Andrew Breitbart dropped for you war. I want
war with all of you too. Not that I want violence,
I don't. I'm actually very peaceful, but I would love
to go to battle with anyone who wants to prevent
genuine inquiry into the nature and circumstances that caused the
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untimely death of Charlie Kirk. You are not on the
side of truth, transparency, or honesty, and for that I
will back up Candis Owans. I want war with all
of you. Megan Kelly was asked about Candis Owans at
an event just yesterday. Let's hear what she has to say.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Convinced that Charlie was killed by Tyler Robinson, a crazed
leftist who murdered him because he didn't like Charlie's messaging
on the trans issue. That is my firm belief, after
having talked to the people at Turning Point, the FBI,
the security team that was on the ground, and many others,
and I I've come to that with a good faith basis,
(07:34):
and I have nothing that would shake me from it.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
So I had three major takeaways from that clip. First Off,
I think most interestingly, there was very tepid applause when
she said that she believes that one hundred percent Tyler
Robinson was responsible for this. That was like, I don't know,
it sounded like five or six people clapping in the audience.
It doesn't sound like an audience filled with people that
are equally outraged at Candice Owns and completely one hundred
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percent convinced as making Kelly is that Tyler Robinson act alone. Additionally,
I found it very interesting that she has come to
the conclusion one hundred percent, leaving exactly zero percent doubt
somehow by talking to TPUSA, talking to the guys at
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the FBI, and talking to his security team. Okay, well,
I want to remind you that Megan Kelly is an attorney,
So for her to take on face value or take
on relational value, just trust, she says, I come to
that conclusion in good faith. I think what she's implying
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there is that she's taking it on faith, that she
is taking it at face value, at the word the
reputations of these people that are conveying this message to her. Now,
if she has these relationships with Cash Patel and Dan Bongino,
and that's adequate for her to come to that conclusion. Obviously,
the TPUSA people have no fucking clue who fired that shot,
nor does the security team. They would have no idea.
(09:02):
It would either be the FBI or local sheriff's department
that would actually really be able to prove this thing out.
So I have no idea why she would ask them
or take their opinion with any sort of gravity. But certainly,
if the FBI is telling her that, and they say
that they have additional information that has not been made public, okay,
maybe I just I don't understand, given that she was
(09:24):
at this incredibly controversial TPUSA event in Tampa mid July.
Dave Smith debating Josh Hammer Tucker Carlson, Magan Kelly's there.
The big story at the time, for those that don't remember,
was the non release of the Epstein files. The non
release of the Epstein files was a failed promise by
Cash matell and Dan Bongino, as well as Donald Trump.
(09:47):
So why why does she have such faith given that
she's an attorney, given that she recognizes that they have
already broken a promise to the public, and yet she
has no additional questions, no inquiries whatsoever. I find that fascinating.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Now.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I do want to defend her in the sense that
I appreciate that she said I am unwilling to condemn
Candice Owens. If you like her, you like her. If
you don't, you don't, that's up to you.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I don't begrudge anybody asking questions. And I understand the
controversy around where she's gone with it, but I think
it's really kind of a mess, like a matter of
your preference for your broadcaster. And you know, Candace is
many many people's cup of tea, and she's not other people's.
And I'm the same. And I haven't responded well to
people demanding that I try to police her speech because
(10:30):
that's a leftist thing. It's not a right thing. So
if she's not for you, that's fine. But if she is,
that's fine too. And what she says about this particular matter. Look,
I give her. I just give her a lot of
grace because I know she's suffering. I know she really
loved him, and I think this has been very hard
on people who actually knew Charlie and really loved him.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
That's a fair approach. But I would like, because I
think highly of making Kelly's intelligence, I really do, I
would like for her to show some more openness to
the possibility that perhaps Tyler Robinson didn't do it, or
at least that maybe he didn't act alone. I mean,
this is also one of your friends, obviously, So I'm
(11:08):
going to add you to the category of all the
people that were friends with Charlie that seem to have
zero percent interest, in your own words, in looking any
deeper in pressuring the law enforcement officials to actually provide
actual proof that Tyler Robinson did this and acted alone.
I'm going to cover some of the latest revelations when
it comes to the Charlie Kirk case in just a second.
(11:29):
But I do want to give my thoughts on the
Tucker Carlson versus Nick Fuents interview that dropped last night.
People have had a lot of things to say about it,
so I'm going to try and keep this short. But
I thought that the one point that I hadn't seen
anybody else make, and a lot of people seem to
agree with me after I said it, was that Tucker
really took on a paternal role about halfway through this interview,
(11:50):
and I found it fascinating. It was actually very reminiscent
of Dave Smith's interview with Nick, where about an hour
in both of them shift. And I think it's fascinating
because you know, Nick is such a eloquent speaker but
also very bombastic and just radiates confidence on his own show,
but then when he's on these other shows with people,
(12:13):
there are these moments where you really sense his age.
And I don't mean this as an insult. He's a
young guy. He's like twenty six or whatever, and he
just comes across as someone who's developing, someone who's learning,
someone who's open to guidance, someone who maybe be looking
for a mentor. And I actually talked to Dave about this.
I'll keep our conversation private, but I will say I
(12:33):
was happy to see that Nick Fuentes was canceled at eighteen,
I mean, and not just canceled, but like viciously, brutally canceled,
no flyless, deplatformed, everywhere, debanked, I mean, just treated absolutely terribly.
And the primary thing that he did that got that
treatment was not the jokes, not the oven stuff and
(12:54):
all that nonsense, which I think was genuinely joking. I
don't know for sure, but that's how I took it.
Because he questioned the nature of the GOP and moreover
America with Israel, and that was adequate because this was
a time when very few people were willing to do that,
and he did that at eighteen years old. And for
(13:16):
the next six years, seven years, he was in the
wilderness entirely alone, or not entirely. I mean, he has
a big, big support group, large fan base, but he
was basically alone, and he was talked about like Voldemort,
like you couldn't bring him up without first condemning him,
like if he had a good point that he made,
you have to go like, I don't agree with this,
I don't agree with everything he says, but XYZ people
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do that like that's all they ever do with him,
which is how you know you're dealing with someone who's
been really really canceled and really really blacklisted. But it's
just so obvious to me personally that I can put
myself back into being eighteen years old and just imagine
had I been an outspoken person and had kind of
the ideas that I do today and gotten the same
treatment that Nick did from kind of a normy. I mean,
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he was really a libertarian, which is too to learn,
and just a really kind of basic bitch gop guy,
honestly by his own description, and then he is just
mercilessly canceled in such a vicious fashion, and I can
imagine just how both radicalizing and devastating that would be,
especially for a young man. So as someone who respects
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and appreciates both Tucker Carlson and Dave Smith, I loved
seeing that. I loved kind of putting an arm out
or a brief respite, if you will, a shelter from
the storm. And I think that he needs some guidance,
not to say that he's not totally capable. He obviously is,
but just that I think that particularly people that have
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been in this a lot longer than him, which both
Dave and Tucker have, and they also have a lot
of years, and they're both married and they have kids,
and it's like they have a lot of life lessons
that they could impart upon him, some areas of weakness
in his rhetoric, if not his life, that I think
they could help him with. And I think that also
it would probably have a deradicalizing effect, and it would
probably bring him more into the land of the less
(15:05):
shit posting, more like, what do I actually want to
see in the world. Let's talk solutions, Let's not just
lament things. Let's not just, you know, have a bitch fest,
which I do a lot of. So I'm not throwing shade,
and I think that's good. I think that's healthy. I
think that's actually one of the biggest values of free
speech and platforming, which, of course all of the usual
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suspects are losing their minds. Seth Dylan says. These are
all quote tweets of the interview more or less. Seth
Dylan says, quote Hitler was really fucking cool, and quote
Nick Fuenttes. Rebecca Heinrich says, I watched the interview. It
wasn't interesting or provocative. It's not smart, and it's disgusting
to elevate this person and behave as if his views
are worthy of consideration. They are not. Film lads has
(15:52):
two cancerous tumors giggle at each other. David Draymond says,
Dear miss Erica Kirk, Tucker Carlson is continuing to the
memory of your late husband, has now platformed notorious Nazi
want to be Nick Funtes and is destroying the legacy
you and Charlie Kirk created. Please stop this madness, as
if Erica has the capacity to tell Tucker that he
(16:13):
can't have Nick on all right. Insurrection Barbie, which is
a literal bought account in my opinion, for a foreign country,
says this is not the conservative movement Charlie Kirk died
fighting for. I am not embracing this, I am not
unifying with this. I am not accepting this. Movements don't
die when their enemies attack them. They die when they
sell their soul. This feels like one of those moments.
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Ariel Azerad says, I'm losing brain cells watching this slop.
Will Chamberlain, who I have beef with many times, and
I am not impressed by says it's been a little
more than a month after he spoke at Charlie's funeral,
and here he is talking with one of America's most
prominent and noxious anti Semites about how much he despises
Christian Zionism. Tucker should be ashamed. This is a total betrayal. Okay,
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Ambassador Mike Huckabee, who I also do not like, says,
wasn't aware that Tucker despises me. I do get that
a lot from people not familiar with the Bible or history.
Somehow I will survive the animosity. Well, just so you know, Mike,
it's not just Tucker that despises you. It's also me
and most of America. You're a bum, and you don't
represent America, and you have no business actually being an
American politics. You ought to move to the country that
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you love because you it's not America. Brandon Tatum says,
Tucker is literally calling out or calling Charlie a heretic
whom he despised, who also had a mind virus. Charlie
Kirk was a Christian Zionis blah blah blah. I'm gonna
stop there because I think you get the point, And
I just want to point out how eerily reminiscent that
type of response to a interview, just an interview is
to twenty sixteen, is to the entire woke environment when
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we weren't allowed to talk to anybody or say anything.
And basically, if you were a straight white guy, you
were just persona on Grada, Like that's kinda the exact
same thing that's happening here. How could you have a
conversation with this noxious rob bro blah blah. It's like, dude,
we're done with that. It's over. You lost, They lost,
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and you lost. You don't get to defeat the woke
and then become it. You don't get to talk about Oh,
we're not going to listen to them about platforming debates.
We platform whoever we want. And then Tucker Carlson goes, well,
I want to platform this guy, and you go, WHOA,
not that guy, You're woke. This is why I'm so
disgusted with James Lindsay, because he pushed this woke right
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label when it was so clearly and obviously applicable to
him and his crew, Like that's what these people are.
They are the woke right, And let me just explain.
Let me elaborate as to why. Because I feel like
I don't get an opportunity to do that, or I
haven't taken the opportunity to do that, I should say.
The reason that they are the woke right is the
same reason that the left has a woke virus, a
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woke movement is that they first it's grievance and it's identitarianism.
So on the left, it's identitarianism when it comes to minorities, right,
but it's like are you trans, are you gay, are
you black? Are you Hispanic? Are you an immigrant? Are
you a woman? Then you're an oppressed minority under critical theory,
and therefore you are to be defended. Now there's a
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hierarchy within the defense and ultimately, if you're like a
straight black guy, well then you're kind of high up
because you're part of the patriarchy and you know, you're
a man, so that's a problem and blah blah blah. Right,
so there's still hierarchy there, but generally speaking, as long
as you're not straight and white and a man, they'll
defend you a little bit.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Well.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
On the right, it also has a minority class that
is extraordinarily identitarian in nature, and it's more narrow, but
it's equally if not more, to be defended. And that
is both Israel or Jewish people either way. Right, So
it's the same thing, and they are an oppress minority
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and they must be defended, and particularly straight white men
can't talk about it. It's like carbon copy or funhouse
mirror of the same thing. And I just I don't
know why I even have to make this argument, and
maybe I don't need to. Maybe it's so obvious at
this point that like everyone sees it and I'm over explaining.
(20:10):
I hope that's the case. But for those that didn't
understand why I describe them as a woke right, I
hope that this helps. Like, there's also one additional similarity
that I think is important to talk about, and I
haven't been able to elaborate on this either, but particularly
when it came to the left, wokeness was you can't
talk about any of the problems within that community. They
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are to be protected and defended, and they are also
off the table of topics, like you can't talk about it, example,
African American black community in America, you can't talk about
violence in the cities when it comes to gangs and
the on black violence, like, if you bring it up,
you're racist because these people have been oppressed and if
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they are violence because of poverty and because the judicial
system is unfair, blah blah blah. Right, So like that's
the left's version of it. And just to clarify, the
reason is because they were abused historically terribly so and
I agree with that. Slavery was atrocious, So they get
a whole pass, they get additional protections. You're not allowed
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to talk about the problems in that community ever, and
if you do, you're a bigot and your persona nongrada immediately.
And by the way, this applies on all categories. The
same with trans if there's any violence that comes from
that community, when it comes to shooting up Christian schools
or whatever, can't talk about that. Basically, if you're in
a protected class, you can get away with murder. Literally.
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There's a bit of a similarity with that. When it
comes to Israel. Now in there because of the Holocaust
and again atrocious, it was terrible, but because of what
happened to your great grandfather or whatever, you get a
whole pass. Again, you get away with literal murder when
it comes to Kaza, for example. And I just think
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that the similarities are so I mean, it's so obvious
to me, and yet I've never heard anyone really lay
it out just how I just did. So that's why
I wanted to do it, and I wanted to get
your thoughts. I think that that's exactly it's the exact
same framework. It's critical theory, it's oppression Olympics, it's protected status.
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It has oppressor versus oppressed, and ultimately, if you're in
the oppressor class people that look like me, then you
can't talk about these things at all, even if they're
legitimate problems, which they are obviously, and a lot of
black people are willing to talk about it. It's just
like white liberals that tell you you can't. And also,
we're allowed to talk about how fucked up what's going
(22:41):
on in Gaza Is or Lebanon or Yemen or I mean,
they've blown like five or six different countries. So yeah,
it's okay, you can talk about it. And there's a
lot of Jewish people that want you to talk about it,
but according to the woke right, you can't. You can't
talk about it in fact, you also can't talk to
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somebody who talks about it. That's how you know you're
really in the land of the woke when they start
to not just cancel the person who has the wrong opinion,
but they start to cancel anybody who has a conversation
with the person that has the wrong opinion. They start
to cancel people who are friends with the person who
platform the guy who has the wrong opinions. I can't
tell you how many posts I saw today where they're like,
(23:23):
why is Megan Kelly or whoever not coming out and
condemning Tucker Carlson for platforming Nick flent Is, And it's like, oh,
six degrees of anti Semitism. It's so ridiculous. All Right,
I'm gonna move on from this topic. I just want
to say I think that it is healthy and productive,
and that we ought to be having more conversations with
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people that have been blacklisted, de banked, everything else. Let's
actually get to the truth of these matters. Let's actually
work towards a more peaceful future as opposed to this censorious,
canceled future that they were trying to push upon us.
If there was one reason I was really really happy
that Donald Trump won is because it was such a
massive repudiation of the woke mind virus. And if Donald
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Trump winning still hasn't defeated it on the right wing,
well then I'm just not going to allow that. I'm
not going to accept it. I will not stand for it.
And again I say, if you disagree with me, then
I want war with all of you. Now, I'm not
even going to say this guy's name because I don't
want to put additional I don't know attack mobs on him.
(24:30):
Candice is already talking about it, so if you want
to look it up you can. It's not really relevant.
Let's just say he works. He's allegedly a very close
friend of Charlie Kirk and he I think he was
either worked with or was associated with TPUSA. He was
obviously at the event. What I find fascinating about this, well,
let's just play it and we'll talk through it.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
They just shot Charlie.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
They just shot Charlie.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
They just shot Charlie. They just shot Charlie instead, God
(25:32):
help him.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
That same guy is the one who's responsible for removing
I don't know if he removed the camera or if
he just removed the SD cards from the camera that
was mounted directly behind Charlie, which we are still yet
to have seen that footage. Ken his Owen's got to
see it through like face time, but nobody else has
had a copy of that yet, so we don't know
what it shows. All we know is that it doesn't
show an exit won't. Okay, So he is the same
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guy who tampered with evidence. It's just a fact. I'm
not saying he did it for nefarious purposes, but it
is a fact that you should not tamper with a
crime scene like you shouldn't. But he did. And now
we see that, and you've got to remember what he's
what he's videoing. There is about a minute later, I mean,
(26:27):
it happens super fast that the security team basically knocks
Charlie over. They pick him up within seconds almost maybe
it was twenty seconds, after realizing that he's, you know,
his life is seriously in jeopardy. And they pick him
up and they take him to that suv and they
drive him off to the hospital. This guy, he pulls
out his camera and he starts to video himself. Now,
(26:49):
I don't know about you. Maybe it's just because I'm
a man. I don't do things like that. I don't.
I mean, I know it's weird to say as I'm
talking into a camera, but other than when I'm doing
the show or on another show, I don't do this,
Like I don't. I don't take photos, I don't take
videos of myself. I don't take selfies. I don't do
any of that. So for me, it's just super weird.
(27:12):
And then you add into it that like, Okay, this
is your friend who literally, within within two minutes of
that video being taken, he just got shot and killed,
and you're taking a selfie video. I mean, oh right.
This is what I'm gonna keep saying about everything that's
weird with all these fucking things is people do really
(27:33):
weird stuff in a time of crisis. So I'm not
gonna jump to the conclusion that this is indicative of
him like trying to paint himself an alibi or any
of that shit that a lot of people are saying.
Maybe that's what it is. I don't know, but I
will say that is just strictly simply not something I
would do. I wouldn't do it. There's just there is
no way in the world that I'm going to turn
(27:56):
my camera around and start to video myself talk talking
about how my friend got shot within a minute of
getting shot, when like I don't even know he's dead,
and then on top of that, he says he's dead. Now.
I knew that after seeing the video very early on,
because it was just so graphic and it was so
obvious that that was a mortal wound. But I don't
(28:18):
know how he knew that. Like, you got to remember,
he hasn't had an opportunity to look at the video
and see anything. He's literally just seeing them carry his
body to the suv and he says he's dead. Very
very strange. You just add that like layers upon layers
of weird, just weird. Not saying it's criminal. I'm not
even saying it's necessarily suspicious. I'm just saying it's fucking weird.
(28:42):
Can we admit that? On top of that, you got
Mike McCoy, who I covered in the episode yesterday. So
I'm not going to go deep on it, but this
is my assessment after like really digging in on this.
I think that he puts his hands up to his
head like shock, or maybe even puts his things in
his ears because of the bang from the gun. He
(29:02):
just bails. Again, not something I would do, like if
I'm going to bail. Because he's so close. He could
have seen what happened to Charlie and been like, I
can't help him. It's over. I'm out of here. But
he also knows that something terrible just happened, and he
doesn't run. But like I said, people do wear shit.
(29:23):
Maybe you just walk away during an active shooting. Normally
people freeze or they sprint, but he walks. Okay, maybe,
But this is where it gets really interesting because his father, who,
to my understanding, was in that notorious group chat with
Josh Ammer and Charlie talking about how he has to
leave the Pro Israel cause that's that's his father. I
(29:43):
think it's I think his name's pastor Rob McCoy, and
he's given interviews and he's talked about this, and he's
saying his son was covered in blood.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
I'm looking at my son, who's twenty four years old.
Justin's the chief cfochief financial officer, and Mikey's the chief
of staff, and I'm watching that. The minute Charlie was shot,
he called me, says, Dad, Charlie's been shot in the neck.
Please call every pastor and pray it's okay.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Son.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
He has wits about him. He was just directing he
had blood all over him?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
How and this is a sincere question, and this gets
look oftentimes people will try and tell stories to either
Pastor McCoy is lying and he's trying to make his
son look more heroic than he is, or maybe his
son was lying to his dad because he wanted to
look more heroic than he was. But I don't see
(30:45):
how it's even possible that he was covered in blood.
I don't see it. He's gone in an instant, in
less than a second, he's turned and he's walking away.
And when you see them loading Charlie into that suv,
he is further than the sue and he is still walking.
So how, how and when exactly did he try and
(31:05):
save Charlie's life and did he get covered in blood? Pastor,
I don't think it happened. Want to use lion. I
don't know who, and I don't know why. But this
is a problem. People need to start being fucking honest.
And I think that's the biggest problem with all this
is that we're just a wash and lies. I mean,
there's so there's so many inconsistencies in this story. First off,
(31:28):
the thirty odd six don't buy it. I don't think
there's a chance at all that that's what Charlie was
hit with. I really don't. So you start with that.
Then you have the footage that should show Tyler Robinson
in the prone position taking that shot. Hasn't been released,
no indications that it will be. That's another inconsistency. Then
(31:48):
you have the court and the attorney saying we're gonna
make it so that we don't have a live stream
of this this trial. Another reason to doubt the official narrative,
another reason to doubt the legitimacy of the judicial says.
Then you got Mikey McCoy who's allegedly been told programmed
even to call Erica immediately if there's a crisis, so
that's what he does. But then he's also covered in
(32:11):
blood according to his dad, which is impossible. So who's lying?
And then you have people within TPUSA that are getting
overly defensive and they're not just telling the truth. Just
be super honest. I think that's the easiest way we
get through this is if people just stop spinning. You
gotta be fucking straight as an arrow, honest about this stuff.
(32:34):
We're trying to figure out who killed Charlie Kirk. I
believe strongly that almost everybody, if not everybody, within TUPUSA
love Charlie Kirk and they want the truth too. So
I'm not trying to condemn you guys at all, but
you cannot go in the defensive mode.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
I'm just going to be blunt about this. This is
an extremely disgusting attack, and I can speak to that
because I was there when it happened, and I was
next to Mikey when it happened. And what I can
say is, I again, I can't say every single thing
that happened, but I want to talk about this specific,
narrow thing that the shooting occurs. I am next to Mikey,
(33:11):
both of us here a loud crack. We both turn,
we both see Charlie who has been shot. Both of us,
I think, at about the same time realize that that
means there is a shooter who is on the scene. Uh,
and you know, you just hear the crack, so you
don't know did it come from far away, did it
come from close? Is there a mass shooter unfolding right now?
So I and him both had the reaction of let's
(33:34):
get out of here before we are both shot. And
then I think he literally said to me. I might
be imagining this, but I think what he literally said
was he's and then he was looking around, and then
he says, I need to call Erica, and then he
takes his phone and he begins calling Erica. And I
don't want to disclose how that call unfolded, but he
did that. He calls Rob McCoy and he says, Dad,
(33:58):
someone's shot Charlie. You need to call all of your
pastor friends. Charlie was hit. We need everyone to pray
right now. And that's what he told him.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
You can't start saying that these people are disgusting and
it's despicable and how could they even ask these questions?
Speaker 6 (34:13):
And I guess it's just it's very disgusting for me
as someone who witnessed this, who saw Mikey hugely distressed
and then step up in the moment, because after that
was call, that call was over, I saw Mikey like
get total mastery of himself that he realized he had
to step up in this situation.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Fuck you man, seriously, I want to make sure that
I don't want to live in a country where there's
political assassinations and there's cover ups. Okay, So, even setting
aside the fact that I met Charlie and I considered
him basically a colleague in this industry, I'm much small timer,
but you know what I'm saying. So I take this
personally on that level. But then additionally I take it
(34:53):
personally and that I don't want to live in a
fucking country where political assassinations are just covered up. Certainly
that happened before I was born, but apparently we're back
in it, so I don't want that. And then additionally
I also just want justice for him and his wife
and his kids. And you're going to demonize the people
that are in my camp that are just saying, we
(35:14):
just want to make sure that you got the right guy.
That's it. I'm not trying to point fingers or accuse
anybody who's innocent. I really do not want to do that.
I think of all the people that have been covering this,
I've been as clear about that as anybody. I don't
want anybody who's innocent to feel the weight of public pressure.
But the way you avoid that is not by shaming
(35:36):
people that are asking questions. The way you avoid that
is full fucking transparency, and you guys have not delivered it.
And it started with that group chat. Y'all sat on
it for three weeks. Well canus owns was talking about
it publicly and everyone was calling her a liar, and
you guys just stayed silent, even though many of you
were in that group chat and you knew factually, factually
(35:58):
I'm talking to Andrew Colby specifically, you knew that Charlie
had said forty eight hours before he was murdered that
he had no choice put to abandon the provisial cause
that's what he said verbatim, and you didn't come out
and put it out publicly. You sent it to law enforcement.
Kudos to you for that, but you just left her
hanging in the wind. Not cool. And I think the
broader support that Candice owns and this attire kind of
(36:21):
I don't know, ragtag group of armchair investigators. The reason
that we're all getting the support that we are is
because a lot of people feel the same way. I mean,
we have just been lied to about everything for our
entire lives, and many of us just realized it I've
kind of been red pilled for a long time. But
you know a lot of people are just realizing it
over the past couple of years, and they're like, especially
(36:44):
with the lockdown ARA in COVID, So we're just sick
to death. We're just done. Like we don't trust the
three let our agencies, we don't trust the government, we
don't trust the media. We don't trust the political operatives
or the pundits either. They're all bumps. And yes, I
say this as a political commentator, but I'm the one
person I know is telling the truth because I'm me,
and people are not just they're just not going to
(37:05):
accept the labels anymore. Ah, your conspiracy theorist, Oh you're disgusting.
How could you possibly Why would you say that? Oh,
you're defiling his legacy and this and that and this,
and No, we're we're done. We're not doing it war.
That's what we're doing. We're declaring war on anybody who obfuscates.
Be honest, be transparent, lay it all out. If you're sincere,
(37:26):
this shouldn't even be hard. You want justice just as
much as I do. I would assume if that's the case,
full transparency, that's what we're asking for, not asking demanding.
We've been lied to too much. We cannot accept. Oh
just wait, just trust the Feds. No, not going to
(37:47):
do it. I want to make sure that we get
the right guy, and I'm not going to rest until
we do. And there's one other really important point to
make about this. The guy who takes the selfie of himself,
what's the first thing he says after grabbing his chest
and you know, pensive pause. All reasonable reactions in my opinion,
other than videoing yourself, which is super fucking strange, but
otherwise reasonable reactions. And then he goes, they just fucking
(38:11):
shot Charlie.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
They just shot Charlie.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
They just shot Charlie. He says, they not a person.
They now. My guess is he'll say, oh, I was
thinking it was the left, so they is the left? Okay, maybe,
But Cannice Owens said that Charlie was telling her or
maybe I don't know if it was her, if she
just was like sent messages where he was saying it,
(38:35):
but that they are going to kill me. And it's like, hmm,
that nebulous day. The Kanye was who is they though?
Or Temple I think hit him with the who's they?
And I think that's what we're all asking. I don't
think that you pulled this off as a one man show.
Some dude in his early twenties, no criminal history pulls
off this miraculous assassination, gets away and then turns himself in.
(39:00):
That doesn't sound right to me, doesn't feel right. The
evidence doesn't point to it either, and it's like, yeah,
they just shot Charlie. Who is they? Though? That's what
we need to know, and we're not gonna rest until
we find out. So keep shouting us down, keep labeling
us conspiracy theories or whatever. I'm totally immune to it,
(39:21):
Like there's nothing you could say that's gonna stop me.
I want to make sure that we have the right
guy or people and until we get that or if
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is Tight
And I do not want people to mistake what's happening
right now or to wrongly assume my attentions here, So
allow me to be very explicit. Okay, I want war
with all of you. Okay, all of you, and there's
a reason. I'm going to get to that reason a
little bit. I want more with all of you. So
write your articles, issue your statements, email the White House,
(00:22):
reach out for comment. Okay, say whatever it is you
want to say about me. I want war with all
of you because I know I know that this isn't right,
and there is no way you are going to convince
me and the rest of the world that all of
this is normal.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I want war with all of you. Yes, warrior spirit.
That is the warrior spirit that I expect from everyone
I know and love. Be that if they are harmed
or if I am. That's loyalty, that's friendship, that's brotherhood,
that's love, that's family, that's truth, that's justice, that's the
(01:03):
pursuit of the highest ideal. Yes, apps fucking lutely Candice owns.
And I don't know why she's getting so mercilessly attacked
for this position, this mindset, this outlook. I don't understand
why this isn't universal, And I mean that sincerely. Why
is this not the universal approach from Jack Posobic to
(01:26):
every other person in Charlie's inner circle, Benny Johnson, all
these people, Where are you? Why are you not demanding
to just be absolutely certain that you have the right guy?
And I think at the end of the day, that's
the reason that so many people are looking at you
side eyed, not because they think that you were involved,
(01:48):
but because, as I've said in prior episodes, you're acting
cowardly or worse, and I don't know which, but this
is the reason that you're being questioned. This is the
reason that your audience is fighting against you. This is
the reason that Jack Pisobic came out today and said,
we're going to petition the court to make sure that
this court proceeding is in fact public, because as of
(02:10):
a few hours ago, they're now talking about making it private.
No cameras in the courtroom, no actual disclosures, no transparency,
no justice. That's my opinion. If we don't get to
watch this trial, forget it. It's a cover up. It's
as simple as that. But you've got all these masculine
characters you know, pasobic, former military Matt Walsh and all
(02:33):
these guys. What is a woman talking about manhood and
masculinity into what it is to be a man in
the patriarchy and defending of the patriarchy and all of them,
all of them pale in comparison. During a time of crisis,
when it matters most to be courageous to stand up
for truth and justice, who steps up a woman candas
owns not y'all. Nope, none of you bitches pathetic, that's
(02:59):
a fact. Sorry, you don't have to like Candice Owans,
and you certainly don't have to agree with her, but
that's the fucking attitude you ought to have. Right now,
I want war with all of you. For what reason
do you possibly trust the FBI or local PD, or
the government or the news media. You have no reason
(03:21):
to trust any of them. Oh, because it's Cash Betel
and Dan Bongino. So now all of a sudden they're trustworthy.
Where are the Epstein docs nowhere to be found? Absolutely
zero reason to trust these people. So if you're going
to pretend is if Candie Owans is just making stuff
up and barking up the wrong tree, and we ought
to just trust the FBI or trust the local cops
(03:41):
to make this investigation, and trust the judicial system to
get it right. You're crazy, You're out of your mind,
Absolutely not, and I don't believe that you believe that either.
So that means that you're either being cowardly or something worse.
Maybe you're BOT. Maybe the funding sources that keep some
of you aloft is in fact tied to other groups
(04:02):
that don't want disclosure, they don't want justice when it
comes to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Maybe it's that simple.
But guess what doesn't make it any better. Doesn't make
you any less cowardly. In many ways, it actually makes
you worse. It means that you're BOT. It means that
you're owned and operated. It means that you're controlled. It
means that you're controlled opposition. To make it explicit, it
(04:24):
means you are literally controlled opposition. And this doesn't just
mean controlled opposition in the sense that, oh, we're going
to uplift some politician who's ultimately going to betray the
American people. You already did that. No, it means controlled
opposition to the level and to the extent that you
will allow for your friend to be murdered in front
of the world and not say a word about it.
(04:46):
It doesn't get any more controlled than that. You are
as empty a vessel, as cowardly as they come. And
if you think that Candice Owns is barking up the
wrong tree, well then how about y'all bark up the
right ones. How about you actually marshal your forces and
your resources and you dig and you actually discover what
(05:06):
she has wrong, Because as of now, it seems to
me as if you guys are all simply avoiding this
story entirely, and if you do lift a finger to
discuss it or decide, deign it necessary to utter a
word about this case at all, it's just to blast
Cannie Owns for being the only one at the highest
(05:28):
levels to actually talk about this stuff. It's weak, and
I think your audience is catching on. So take this
as friendly advice if you want to maintain your audience
or your reputation, or any semblance of I don't know
a soul, do the right thing. Actually start to work
alongside her, Actually try and dig for the truth. We're
(05:51):
not asking for a miracle here, We're not asking for
the impossible. We're asking for you to be honorable friends
to Charlie Kirk. When you do that, I hope It's
been over six weeks now and none of you have
shown the backbone that she has. It's time and if
you don't, well, then don't expect to maintain your audience.
(06:12):
I think it's that simple. So I guess I'll say
in summary, war all the people that have gone out
there against the mainstream media and said you're going to
call us racist, you're going to call us potential Timothy mcbay's.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Fuck you.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
War, little Andrew Breitbart dropped for you war. I want
war with all of you too. Not that I want violence,
I don't. I'm actually very peaceful, but I would love
to go to battle with anyone who wants to prevent
genuine inquiry into the nature and circumstances that caused the
(06:55):
untimely death of Charlie Kirk. You are not on the
side of truth, transparency, or honesty, and for that I
will back up Candis Owans. I want war with all
of you. Megan Kelly was asked about Candis Owans at
an event just yesterday. Let's hear what she has to say.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Convinced that Charlie was killed by Tyler Robinson, a crazed
leftist who murdered him because he didn't like Charlie's messaging
on the trans issue. That is my firm belief, after
having talked to the people at Turning Point, the FBI,
the security team that was on the ground, and many others,
and I I've come to that with a good faith basis,
(07:34):
and I have nothing that would shake me from it.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
So I had three major takeaways from that clip. First Off,
I think most interestingly, there was very tepid applause when
she said that she believes that one hundred percent Tyler
Robinson was responsible for this. That was like, I don't know,
it sounded like five or six people clapping in the audience.
It doesn't sound like an audience filled with people that
are equally outraged at Candice Owns and completely one hundred
(07:58):
percent convinced as making Kelly is that Tyler Robinson act alone. Additionally,
I found it very interesting that she has come to
the conclusion one hundred percent, leaving exactly zero percent doubt
somehow by talking to TPUSA, talking to the guys at
(08:19):
the FBI, and talking to his security team. Okay, well,
I want to remind you that Megan Kelly is an attorney,
So for her to take on face value or take
on relational value, just trust, she says, I come to
that conclusion in good faith. I think what she's implying
(08:39):
there is that she's taking it on faith, that she
is taking it at face value, at the word the
reputations of these people that are conveying this message to her. Now,
if she has these relationships with Cash Patel and Dan Bongino,
and that's adequate for her to come to that conclusion. Obviously,
the TPUSA people have no fucking clue who fired that shot,
nor does the security team. They would have no idea.
(09:02):
It would either be the FBI or local sheriff's department
that would actually really be able to prove this thing out.
So I have no idea why she would ask them
or take their opinion with any sort of gravity. But certainly,
if the FBI is telling her that, and they say
that they have additional information that has not been made public, okay,
maybe I just I don't understand, given that she was
(09:24):
at this incredibly controversial TPUSA event in Tampa mid July.
Dave Smith debating Josh Hammer Tucker Carlson, Magan Kelly's there.
The big story at the time, for those that don't remember,
was the non release of the Epstein files. The non
release of the Epstein files was a failed promise by
Cash matell and Dan Bongino, as well as Donald Trump.
(09:47):
So why why does she have such faith given that
she's an attorney, given that she recognizes that they have
already broken a promise to the public, and yet she
has no additional questions, no inquiries whatsoever. I find that fascinating.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Now.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I do want to defend her in the sense that
I appreciate that she said I am unwilling to condemn
Candice Owens. If you like her, you like her. If
you don't, you don't, that's up to you.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I don't begrudge anybody asking questions. And I understand the
controversy around where she's gone with it, but I think
it's really kind of a mess, like a matter of
your preference for your broadcaster. And you know, Candace is
many many people's cup of tea, and she's not other people's.
And I'm the same. And I haven't responded well to
people demanding that I try to police her speech because
(10:30):
that's a leftist thing. It's not a right thing. So
if she's not for you, that's fine. But if she is,
that's fine too. And what she says about this particular matter. Look,
I give her. I just give her a lot of
grace because I know she's suffering. I know she really
loved him, and I think this has been very hard
on people who actually knew Charlie and really loved him.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
That's a fair approach. But I would like, because I
think highly of making Kelly's intelligence, I really do, I
would like for her to show some more openness to
the possibility that perhaps Tyler Robinson didn't do it, or
at least that maybe he didn't act alone. I mean,
this is also one of your friends, obviously, So I'm
(11:08):
going to add you to the category of all the
people that were friends with Charlie that seem to have
zero percent interest, in your own words, in looking any
deeper in pressuring the law enforcement officials to actually provide
actual proof that Tyler Robinson did this and acted alone.
I'm going to cover some of the latest revelations when
it comes to the Charlie Kirk case in just a second.
(11:29):
But I do want to give my thoughts on the
Tucker Carlson versus Nick Fuents interview that dropped last night.
People have had a lot of things to say about it,
so I'm going to try and keep this short. But
I thought that the one point that I hadn't seen
anybody else make, and a lot of people seem to
agree with me after I said it, was that Tucker
really took on a paternal role about halfway through this interview,
(11:50):
and I found it fascinating. It was actually very reminiscent
of Dave Smith's interview with Nick, where about an hour
in both of them shift. And I think it's fascinating
because you know, Nick is such a eloquent speaker but
also very bombastic and just radiates confidence on his own show,
but then when he's on these other shows with people,
(12:13):
there are these moments where you really sense his age.
And I don't mean this as an insult. He's a
young guy. He's like twenty six or whatever, and he
just comes across as someone who's developing, someone who's learning,
someone who's open to guidance, someone who maybe be looking
for a mentor. And I actually talked to Dave about this.
I'll keep our conversation private, but I will say I
(12:33):
was happy to see that Nick Fuentes was canceled at eighteen,
I mean, and not just canceled, but like viciously, brutally canceled,
no flyless, deplatformed, everywhere, debanked, I mean, just treated absolutely terribly.
And the primary thing that he did that got that
treatment was not the jokes, not the oven stuff and
(12:54):
all that nonsense, which I think was genuinely joking. I
don't know for sure, but that's how I took it.
Because he questioned the nature of the GOP and moreover
America with Israel, and that was adequate because this was
a time when very few people were willing to do that,
and he did that at eighteen years old. And for
(13:16):
the next six years, seven years, he was in the
wilderness entirely alone, or not entirely. I mean, he has
a big, big support group, large fan base, but he
was basically alone, and he was talked about like Voldemort,
like you couldn't bring him up without first condemning him,
like if he had a good point that he made,
you have to go like, I don't agree with this,
I don't agree with everything he says, but XYZ people
(13:37):
do that like that's all they ever do with him,
which is how you know you're dealing with someone who's
been really really canceled and really really blacklisted. But it's
just so obvious to me personally that I can put
myself back into being eighteen years old and just imagine
had I been an outspoken person and had kind of
the ideas that I do today and gotten the same
treatment that Nick did from kind of a normy. I mean,
(13:58):
he was really a libertarian, which is too to learn,
and just a really kind of basic bitch gop guy,
honestly by his own description, and then he is just
mercilessly canceled in such a vicious fashion, and I can
imagine just how both radicalizing and devastating that would be,
especially for a young man. So as someone who respects
(14:21):
and appreciates both Tucker Carlson and Dave Smith, I loved
seeing that. I loved kind of putting an arm out
or a brief respite, if you will, a shelter from
the storm. And I think that he needs some guidance,
not to say that he's not totally capable. He obviously is,
but just that I think that particularly people that have
(14:42):
been in this a lot longer than him, which both
Dave and Tucker have, and they also have a lot
of years, and they're both married and they have kids,
and it's like they have a lot of life lessons
that they could impart upon him, some areas of weakness
in his rhetoric, if not his life, that I think
they could help him with. And I think that also
it would probably have a deradicalizing effect, and it would
probably bring him more into the land of the less
(15:05):
shit posting, more like, what do I actually want to
see in the world. Let's talk solutions, Let's not just
lament things. Let's not just, you know, have a bitch fest,
which I do a lot of. So I'm not throwing shade,
and I think that's good. I think that's healthy. I
think that's actually one of the biggest values of free
speech and platforming, which, of course all of the usual
(15:29):
suspects are losing their minds. Seth Dylan says. These are
all quote tweets of the interview more or less. Seth
Dylan says, quote Hitler was really fucking cool, and quote
Nick Fuenttes. Rebecca Heinrich says, I watched the interview. It
wasn't interesting or provocative. It's not smart, and it's disgusting
to elevate this person and behave as if his views
are worthy of consideration. They are not. Film lads has
(15:52):
two cancerous tumors giggle at each other. David Draymond says,
Dear miss Erica Kirk, Tucker Carlson is continuing to the
memory of your late husband, has now platformed notorious Nazi
want to be Nick Funtes and is destroying the legacy
you and Charlie Kirk created. Please stop this madness, as
if Erica has the capacity to tell Tucker that he
(16:13):
can't have Nick on all right. Insurrection Barbie, which is
a literal bought account in my opinion, for a foreign country,
says this is not the conservative movement Charlie Kirk died
fighting for. I am not embracing this, I am not
unifying with this. I am not accepting this. Movements don't
die when their enemies attack them. They die when they
sell their soul. This feels like one of those moments.
(16:34):
Ariel Azerad says, I'm losing brain cells watching this slop.
Will Chamberlain, who I have beef with many times, and
I am not impressed by says it's been a little
more than a month after he spoke at Charlie's funeral,
and here he is talking with one of America's most
prominent and noxious anti Semites about how much he despises
Christian Zionism. Tucker should be ashamed. This is a total betrayal. Okay,
(16:56):
Ambassador Mike Huckabee, who I also do not like, says,
wasn't aware that Tucker despises me. I do get that
a lot from people not familiar with the Bible or history.
Somehow I will survive the animosity. Well, just so you know, Mike,
it's not just Tucker that despises you. It's also me
and most of America. You're a bum, and you don't
represent America, and you have no business actually being an
American politics. You ought to move to the country that
(17:18):
you love because you it's not America. Brandon Tatum says,
Tucker is literally calling out or calling Charlie a heretic
whom he despised, who also had a mind virus. Charlie
Kirk was a Christian Zionis blah blah blah. I'm gonna
stop there because I think you get the point, And
I just want to point out how eerily reminiscent that
type of response to a interview, just an interview is
to twenty sixteen, is to the entire woke environment when
(17:40):
we weren't allowed to talk to anybody or say anything.
And basically, if you were a straight white guy, you
were just persona on Grada, Like that's kinda the exact
same thing that's happening here. How could you have a
conversation with this noxious rob bro blah blah. It's like, dude,
we're done with that. It's over. You lost, They lost,
(18:01):
and you lost. You don't get to defeat the woke
and then become it. You don't get to talk about Oh,
we're not going to listen to them about platforming debates.
We platform whoever we want. And then Tucker Carlson goes, well,
I want to platform this guy, and you go, WHOA,
not that guy, You're woke. This is why I'm so
disgusted with James Lindsay, because he pushed this woke right
(18:21):
label when it was so clearly and obviously applicable to
him and his crew, Like that's what these people are.
They are the woke right, And let me just explain.
Let me elaborate as to why. Because I feel like
I don't get an opportunity to do that, or I
haven't taken the opportunity to do that, I should say.
The reason that they are the woke right is the
same reason that the left has a woke virus, a
(18:42):
woke movement is that they first it's grievance and it's identitarianism.
So on the left, it's identitarianism when it comes to minorities, right,
but it's like are you trans, are you gay, are
you black? Are you Hispanic? Are you an immigrant? Are
you a woman? Then you're an oppressed minority under critical theory,
and therefore you are to be defended. Now there's a
(19:07):
hierarchy within the defense and ultimately, if you're like a
straight black guy, well then you're kind of high up
because you're part of the patriarchy and you know, you're
a man, so that's a problem and blah blah blah. Right,
so there's still hierarchy there, but generally speaking, as long
as you're not straight and white and a man, they'll
defend you a little bit.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Well.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
On the right, it also has a minority class that
is extraordinarily identitarian in nature, and it's more narrow, but
it's equally if not more, to be defended. And that
is both Israel or Jewish people either way. Right, So
it's the same thing, and they are an oppress minority
(19:49):
and they must be defended, and particularly straight white men
can't talk about it. It's like carbon copy or funhouse
mirror of the same thing. And I just I don't
know why I even have to make this argument, and
maybe I don't need to. Maybe it's so obvious at
this point that like everyone sees it and I'm over explaining.
(20:10):
I hope that's the case. But for those that didn't
understand why I describe them as a woke right, I
hope that this helps. Like, there's also one additional similarity
that I think is important to talk about, and I
haven't been able to elaborate on this either, but particularly
when it came to the left, wokeness was you can't
talk about any of the problems within that community. They
(20:30):
are to be protected and defended, and they are also
off the table of topics, like you can't talk about it, example,
African American black community in America, you can't talk about
violence in the cities when it comes to gangs and
the on black violence, like, if you bring it up,
you're racist because these people have been oppressed and if
(20:52):
they are violence because of poverty and because the judicial
system is unfair, blah blah blah. Right, So like that's
the left's version of it. And just to clarify, the
reason is because they were abused historically terribly so and
I agree with that. Slavery was atrocious, So they get
a whole pass, they get additional protections. You're not allowed
(21:15):
to talk about the problems in that community ever, and
if you do, you're a bigot and your persona nongrada immediately.
And by the way, this applies on all categories. The
same with trans if there's any violence that comes from
that community, when it comes to shooting up Christian schools
or whatever, can't talk about that. Basically, if you're in
a protected class, you can get away with murder. Literally.
(21:36):
There's a bit of a similarity with that. When it
comes to Israel. Now in there because of the Holocaust
and again atrocious, it was terrible, but because of what
happened to your great grandfather or whatever, you get a
whole pass. Again, you get away with literal murder when
it comes to Kaza, for example. And I just think
(21:57):
that the similarities are so I mean, it's so obvious
to me, and yet I've never heard anyone really lay
it out just how I just did. So that's why
I wanted to do it, and I wanted to get
your thoughts. I think that that's exactly it's the exact
same framework. It's critical theory, it's oppression Olympics, it's protected status.
(22:20):
It has oppressor versus oppressed, and ultimately, if you're in
the oppressor class people that look like me, then you
can't talk about these things at all, even if they're
legitimate problems, which they are obviously, and a lot of
black people are willing to talk about it. It's just
like white liberals that tell you you can't. And also,
we're allowed to talk about how fucked up what's going
(22:41):
on in Gaza Is or Lebanon or Yemen or I mean,
they've blown like five or six different countries. So yeah,
it's okay, you can talk about it. And there's a
lot of Jewish people that want you to talk about it,
but according to the woke right, you can't. You can't
talk about it in fact, you also can't talk to
(23:02):
somebody who talks about it. That's how you know you're
really in the land of the woke when they start
to not just cancel the person who has the wrong opinion,
but they start to cancel anybody who has a conversation
with the person that has the wrong opinion. They start
to cancel people who are friends with the person who
platform the guy who has the wrong opinions. I can't
tell you how many posts I saw today where they're like,
(23:23):
why is Megan Kelly or whoever not coming out and
condemning Tucker Carlson for platforming Nick flent Is, And it's like, oh,
six degrees of anti Semitism. It's so ridiculous. All Right,
I'm gonna move on from this topic. I just want
to say I think that it is healthy and productive,
and that we ought to be having more conversations with
(23:45):
people that have been blacklisted, de banked, everything else. Let's
actually get to the truth of these matters. Let's actually
work towards a more peaceful future as opposed to this censorious,
canceled future that they were trying to push upon us.
If there was one reason I was really really happy
that Donald Trump won is because it was such a
massive repudiation of the woke mind virus. And if Donald
(24:09):
Trump winning still hasn't defeated it on the right wing,
well then I'm just not going to allow that. I'm
not going to accept it. I will not stand for it.
And again I say, if you disagree with me, then
I want war with all of you. Now, I'm not
even going to say this guy's name because I don't
want to put additional I don't know attack mobs on him.
(24:30):
Candice is already talking about it, so if you want
to look it up you can. It's not really relevant.
Let's just say he works. He's allegedly a very close
friend of Charlie Kirk and he I think he was
either worked with or was associated with TPUSA. He was
obviously at the event. What I find fascinating about this, well,
let's just play it and we'll talk through it.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
They just shot Charlie.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
They just shot Charlie.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
They just shot Charlie. They just shot Charlie instead, God
(25:32):
help him.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
That same guy is the one who's responsible for removing
I don't know if he removed the camera or if
he just removed the SD cards from the camera that
was mounted directly behind Charlie, which we are still yet
to have seen that footage. Ken his Owen's got to
see it through like face time, but nobody else has
had a copy of that yet, so we don't know
what it shows. All we know is that it doesn't
show an exit won't. Okay, So he is the same
(26:06):
guy who tampered with evidence. It's just a fact. I'm
not saying he did it for nefarious purposes, but it
is a fact that you should not tamper with a
crime scene like you shouldn't. But he did. And now
we see that, and you've got to remember what he's
what he's videoing. There is about a minute later, I mean,
(26:27):
it happens super fast that the security team basically knocks
Charlie over. They pick him up within seconds almost maybe
it was twenty seconds, after realizing that he's, you know,
his life is seriously in jeopardy. And they pick him
up and they take him to that suv and they
drive him off to the hospital. This guy, he pulls
out his camera and he starts to video himself. Now,
(26:49):
I don't know about you. Maybe it's just because I'm
a man. I don't do things like that. I don't.
I mean, I know it's weird to say as I'm
talking into a camera, but other than when I'm doing
the show or on another show, I don't do this,
Like I don't. I don't take photos, I don't take
videos of myself. I don't take selfies. I don't do
any of that. So for me, it's just super weird.
(27:12):
And then you add into it that like, Okay, this
is your friend who literally, within within two minutes of
that video being taken, he just got shot and killed,
and you're taking a selfie video. I mean, oh right.
This is what I'm gonna keep saying about everything that's
weird with all these fucking things is people do really
(27:33):
weird stuff in a time of crisis. So I'm not
gonna jump to the conclusion that this is indicative of
him like trying to paint himself an alibi or any
of that shit that a lot of people are saying.
Maybe that's what it is. I don't know, but I
will say that is just strictly simply not something I
would do. I wouldn't do it. There's just there is
no way in the world that I'm going to turn
(27:56):
my camera around and start to video myself talk talking
about how my friend got shot within a minute of
getting shot, when like I don't even know he's dead,
and then on top of that, he says he's dead. Now.
I knew that after seeing the video very early on,
because it was just so graphic and it was so
obvious that that was a mortal wound. But I don't
(28:18):
know how he knew that. Like, you got to remember,
he hasn't had an opportunity to look at the video
and see anything. He's literally just seeing them carry his
body to the suv and he says he's dead. Very
very strange. You just add that like layers upon layers
of weird, just weird. Not saying it's criminal. I'm not
even saying it's necessarily suspicious. I'm just saying it's fucking weird.
(28:42):
Can we admit that? On top of that, you got
Mike McCoy, who I covered in the episode yesterday. So
I'm not going to go deep on it, but this
is my assessment after like really digging in on this.
I think that he puts his hands up to his
head like shock, or maybe even puts his things in
his ears because of the bang from the gun. He
(29:02):
just bails. Again, not something I would do, like if
I'm going to bail. Because he's so close. He could
have seen what happened to Charlie and been like, I
can't help him. It's over. I'm out of here. But
he also knows that something terrible just happened, and he
doesn't run. But like I said, people do wear shit.
(29:23):
Maybe you just walk away during an active shooting. Normally
people freeze or they sprint, but he walks. Okay, maybe,
But this is where it gets really interesting because his father, who,
to my understanding, was in that notorious group chat with
Josh Ammer and Charlie talking about how he has to
leave the Pro Israel cause that's that's his father. I
(29:43):
think it's I think his name's pastor Rob McCoy, and
he's given interviews and he's talked about this, and he's
saying his son was covered in blood.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
I'm looking at my son, who's twenty four years old.
Justin's the chief cfochief financial officer, and Mikey's the chief
of staff, and I'm watching that. The minute Charlie was shot,
he called me, says, Dad, Charlie's been shot in the neck.
Please call every pastor and pray it's okay.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Son.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
He has wits about him. He was just directing he
had blood all over him?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
How and this is a sincere question, and this gets
look oftentimes people will try and tell stories to either
Pastor McCoy is lying and he's trying to make his
son look more heroic than he is, or maybe his
son was lying to his dad because he wanted to
look more heroic than he was. But I don't see
(30:45):
how it's even possible that he was covered in blood.
I don't see it. He's gone in an instant, in
less than a second, he's turned and he's walking away.
And when you see them loading Charlie into that suv,
he is further than the sue and he is still walking.
So how, how and when exactly did he try and
(31:05):
save Charlie's life and did he get covered in blood? Pastor,
I don't think it happened. Want to use lion. I
don't know who, and I don't know why. But this
is a problem. People need to start being fucking honest.
And I think that's the biggest problem with all this
is that we're just a wash and lies. I mean,
there's so there's so many inconsistencies in this story. First off,
(31:28):
the thirty odd six don't buy it. I don't think
there's a chance at all that that's what Charlie was
hit with. I really don't. So you start with that.
Then you have the footage that should show Tyler Robinson
in the prone position taking that shot. Hasn't been released,
no indications that it will be. That's another inconsistency. Then
(31:48):
you have the court and the attorney saying we're gonna
make it so that we don't have a live stream
of this this trial. Another reason to doubt the official narrative,
another reason to doubt the legitimacy of the judicial says.
Then you got Mikey McCoy who's allegedly been told programmed
even to call Erica immediately if there's a crisis, so
that's what he does. But then he's also covered in
(32:11):
blood according to his dad, which is impossible. So who's lying?
And then you have people within TPUSA that are getting
overly defensive and they're not just telling the truth. Just
be super honest. I think that's the easiest way we
get through this is if people just stop spinning. You
gotta be fucking straight as an arrow, honest about this stuff.
(32:34):
We're trying to figure out who killed Charlie Kirk. I
believe strongly that almost everybody, if not everybody, within TUPUSA
love Charlie Kirk and they want the truth too. So
I'm not trying to condemn you guys at all, but
you cannot go in the defensive mode.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
I'm just going to be blunt about this. This is
an extremely disgusting attack, and I can speak to that
because I was there when it happened, and I was
next to Mikey when it happened. And what I can
say is, I again, I can't say every single thing
that happened, but I want to talk about this specific,
narrow thing that the shooting occurs. I am next to Mikey,
(33:11):
both of us here a loud crack. We both turn,
we both see Charlie who has been shot. Both of us,
I think, at about the same time realize that that
means there is a shooter who is on the scene. Uh,
and you know, you just hear the crack, so you
don't know did it come from far away, did it
come from close? Is there a mass shooter unfolding right now?
So I and him both had the reaction of let's
(33:34):
get out of here before we are both shot. And
then I think he literally said to me. I might
be imagining this, but I think what he literally said
was he's and then he was looking around, and then
he says, I need to call Erica, and then he
takes his phone and he begins calling Erica. And I
don't want to disclose how that call unfolded, but he
did that. He calls Rob McCoy and he says, Dad,
(33:58):
someone's shot Charlie. You need to call all of your
pastor friends. Charlie was hit. We need everyone to pray
right now. And that's what he told him.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
You can't start saying that these people are disgusting and
it's despicable and how could they even ask these questions?
Speaker 6 (34:13):
And I guess it's just it's very disgusting for me
as someone who witnessed this, who saw Mikey hugely distressed
and then step up in the moment, because after that
was call, that call was over, I saw Mikey like
get total mastery of himself that he realized he had
to step up in this situation.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Fuck you man, seriously, I want to make sure that
I don't want to live in a country where there's
political assassinations and there's cover ups. Okay, So, even setting
aside the fact that I met Charlie and I considered
him basically a colleague in this industry, I'm much small timer,
but you know what I'm saying. So I take this
personally on that level. But then additionally I take it
(34:53):
personally and that I don't want to live in a
fucking country where political assassinations are just covered up. Certainly
that happened before I was born, but apparently we're back
in it, so I don't want that. And then additionally
I also just want justice for him and his wife
and his kids. And you're going to demonize the people
that are in my camp that are just saying, we
(35:14):
just want to make sure that you got the right guy.
That's it. I'm not trying to point fingers or accuse
anybody who's innocent. I really do not want to do that.
I think of all the people that have been covering this,
I've been as clear about that as anybody. I don't
want anybody who's innocent to feel the weight of public pressure.
But the way you avoid that is not by shaming
(35:36):
people that are asking questions. The way you avoid that
is full fucking transparency, and you guys have not delivered it.
And it started with that group chat. Y'all sat on
it for three weeks. Well canus owns was talking about
it publicly and everyone was calling her a liar, and
you guys just stayed silent, even though many of you
were in that group chat and you knew factually, factually
(35:58):
I'm talking to Andrew Colby specifically, you knew that Charlie
had said forty eight hours before he was murdered that
he had no choice put to abandon the provisial cause
that's what he said verbatim, and you didn't come out
and put it out publicly. You sent it to law enforcement.
Kudos to you for that, but you just left her
hanging in the wind. Not cool. And I think the
broader support that Candice owns and this attire kind of
(36:21):
I don't know, ragtag group of armchair investigators. The reason
that we're all getting the support that we are is
because a lot of people feel the same way. I mean,
we have just been lied to about everything for our
entire lives, and many of us just realized it I've
kind of been red pilled for a long time. But
you know a lot of people are just realizing it
over the past couple of years, and they're like, especially
(36:44):
with the lockdown ARA in COVID, So we're just sick
to death. We're just done. Like we don't trust the
three let our agencies, we don't trust the government, we
don't trust the media. We don't trust the political operatives
or the pundits either. They're all bumps. And yes, I
say this as a political commentator, but I'm the one
person I know is telling the truth because I'm me,
and people are not just they're just not going to
(37:05):
accept the labels anymore. Ah, your conspiracy theorist, Oh you're disgusting.
How could you possibly Why would you say that? Oh,
you're defiling his legacy and this and that and this,
and No, we're we're done. We're not doing it war.
That's what we're doing. We're declaring war on anybody who obfuscates.
Be honest, be transparent, lay it all out. If you're sincere,
(37:26):
this shouldn't even be hard. You want justice just as
much as I do. I would assume if that's the case,
full transparency, that's what we're asking for, not asking demanding.
We've been lied to too much. We cannot accept. Oh
just wait, just trust the Feds. No, not going to
(37:47):
do it. I want to make sure that we get
the right guy, and I'm not going to rest until
we do. And there's one other really important point to
make about this. The guy who takes the selfie of himself,
what's the first thing he says after grabbing his chest
and you know, pensive pause. All reasonable reactions in my opinion,
other than videoing yourself, which is super fucking strange, but
otherwise reasonable reactions. And then he goes, they just fucking
(38:11):
shot Charlie.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
They just shot Charlie.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
They just shot Charlie. He says, they not a person.
They now. My guess is he'll say, oh, I was
thinking it was the left, so they is the left? Okay, maybe,
But Cannice Owens said that Charlie was telling her or
maybe I don't know if it was her, if she
just was like sent messages where he was saying it,
(38:35):
but that they are going to kill me. And it's like, hmm,
that nebulous day. The Kanye was who is they though?
Or Temple I think hit him with the who's they?
And I think that's what we're all asking. I don't
think that you pulled this off as a one man show.
Some dude in his early twenties, no criminal history pulls
off this miraculous assassination, gets away and then turns himself in.
(39:00):
That doesn't sound right to me, doesn't feel right. The
evidence doesn't point to it either, and it's like, yeah,
they just shot Charlie. Who is they? Though? That's what
we need to know, and we're not gonna rest until
we find out. So keep shouting us down, keep labeling
us conspiracy theories or whatever. I'm totally immune to it,
(39:21):
Like there's nothing you could say that's gonna stop me.
I want to make sure that we have the right
guy or people and until we get that or if
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