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Join Adam Barralet, Kyle Perez , Ashley Leavy and Nicholas Pearson in Episode #28 of the Crystal Confab Podcast as they do a deep dive into Libyan Desert Glass meaning, including: Varuna Direct & Libyan Desert Glass Libyan Desert Glass for transformation and unity Enlightened Leadership with Libyan Desert Glass Origins and history of Libyan Desert Glass   Tune in now for a deeper look at Libyan Desert Glass meaning! Podcast Transcript:   Crystal Confab Podcast Introduction: Are you just starting with crystals? Or maybe you have a whole collection but aren't sure how to use them? Join four crystal nerds, healers, workers, and lovers for a casual chat about all things crystals.   Kyle Perez: Hello and welcome to Crystal Confab. We are, of course, here for another week talking about something that jumps into the crystal realm without technically being a crystal. I am, of course, joined by Ashley, Nicholas, and Adam, and we're going to talk about Libyan desert glass, also known as Libyan gold tektite. Are you all as excited as I am to talk about this rather interesting one?   Ashley Leavy: I definitely am. I love this stone so much. I was first introduced to it years and years ago, and we were just talking a little bit before we started recording. There's sort of this, like, moldavite to Libyan desert tektite pipeline that many of us follow to sort of find this stone. And I remember just being so taken with it.   Adam Barralet: I know I had so many people come to me and go, oh, what do you think of moldavite? And I'm like, that's moldavite. And, of course, moldavite got, you know, it's kind of a time of glory a few years ago, and I think it was being shared a lot on social media and TikTok and so on. And its price skyrocketed. But I'm like, you don't want moldavite.   You want me to be in desert class. And in my opinion, maybe that's why we're doing the episode before a moldavite episode. I think it's actually better than moldavite. But there's amazing other tech types as well, that I love that are found all around the world.   Kyle: Absolutely. This is one of the, I think, underappreciated gems that we really should work with a little bit more. And I think of all of us, it is always appropriate for Nicholas to dive into the amazing information that we have about Libyan desert glass.   Nicholas Pearson: Thank you. This is a special piece to me. I'm wearing my favorite one, which Ashley, of course, will recognize that I bought and treated myself to. I saw this on a store shelf in Glastonbury A Couple Years back, and I had to do a double take because I really thought this pendant was on the wrong shelf. It's just too perfect, and I thought I was looking at some really flawless citrine with an emerald set in the bezel.   And on close inspection, I could see these little wispy waves running through it, which tell us that it has an amorphous silica structure, which we call Lechatelierite. And it is like the juiciest piece of Libyan desert glass I've ever seen in my life. But, I do have a few pieces. I've been fascinated by this rock for a really long time, and we have evidence that may stretch as far back as 30,000 years of human history with this stone. And there are some mysteries about it that remain unsolved.   We don't have a really rich record of use. We don't have, like, an overwhelming amount of materials that have been made from it. We've got some lithic points, things like, you know, spear points, arrowheads, knives, that kind of thing. And obviously, the most famous thing that I think all of us here have seen is the pectoral of King Tut. So King Tutankhamun was buried with a really resplendent piece of Libyan desert glass carved into the shape of a scarab and set literally over his heart, which is pretty significant in Egyptian history and culture.   I'm not the expert in that though, but what I would really love to talk about is our evolu...
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Are you just starting with crystals?
Or maybe you have a whole collection but
aren't sure how to use them? Join four
crystal nerds, healers, workers, and lovers for crystal
a casual chat about all things crystals.
Hello and welcome to Crystal Confab. We are,
of course, here for another week talking about

(00:23):
something that
jumps into the crystal realm without technically
technically being a crystal. I am, of course,
joined by Ashley, Nicholas, and Adam, and we're
going to talk about Libyan
desert glass, also known as Libyan gold tektite.
Are you all as excited as I am
to talk about this rather interesting one?
I definitely am. I love this stone so

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much. I was first introduced to it years
and years ago,
and we were just talking a little bit
before we started recording. There's sort of this,
like, moldavite
to Libyan desert tektite pipeline
that many of us follow to sort of
find this stone. And I remember just being
so taken with it.
I know I had so many people come

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to me and go, oh, what do you
think of moldavite? And I'm like, that's moldavite.
And, of course, moldavite got, you know, it's
kind of time of glory a few years
ago, and I think it was being shared
a lot on social media and TikTok and
so on. And its price skyrocketed.
But I'm like, you don't want moldavite. You
want me to be in desert class. And
in my opinion, maybe that's why we're doing

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the episode before a moldavite episode.
I think it's actually better than moldavite. But
there's amazing other tech types as well,
that I love that are found all around
the world.
Absolutely.
This is one of the, I think,
underappreciated
gems that we really should work with a
little bit more. And I think

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of all of us, it is always appropriate
for Nicholas to dive into the amazing
information that we have about
Libyan desert glass.
Thank you. This is a special piece to
me. I am I'm wearing my favorite one,
which Ashley, of course, will recognize that I
bought and treated myself to. I saw this
on a store shelf

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in Glastonbury
A Couple Years back, and I had to
do a double take because I really thought
this pendant was on the wrong shelf.
It's just too perfect, and I thought I
was looking at some really flawless citrine with
an emerald
set in the bezel. And on close inspection,
I could see these little wispy waves running
through it, which tell us that it has,

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an amorphous silica structure, which we call the
chatelierite.
And
it is like the juiciest piece of Libyan
desert glass I've I've ever seen in my
life. But,
I do have a few pieces. I've been
fascinated by this rock for a really long
time, and,
we we have evidence that may stretch as
far back as 30,000
years of human history with this stone.

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And
there are some mysteries about it that remain
unsolved. We we don't have,
like a really rich
record of use. We we don't have,
like, an overwhelming
amount
of,
materials that have been made from it. We've
got some lithic points, things like, you know,

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spear points, arrowheads, knives, that that kind of
thing.
And
obviously, the most famous thing that I think
all of us here have seen is the
pectoral
of King Tut. So King Tutankhamun was buried
with a really resplendent piece of Libyan desert
glass carved into the shape of a scarab
and set literally over his heart,

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which is pretty significant
in Egyptian history and culture.
I'm not the expert in that though, but
what I would really love to talk about
is our our evolution of the understanding
of what makes this particular rock.
So we we often see in literature that
it was discovered
in the nineteen thirties.

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We we know, of course, now that it
was discovered 30,000
before then, but but we'll we'll let some
white people take credit, I guess, because they
do anyway.
And
the initial theories
about the formation of this material
were kind of at odds with one another.
Other impact glasses had been found but weren't

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very well understood, and the processes behind them
are are were were and continue to be
debated to this day.
But because of the extraordinary
clarity
and the brightness of color that we see
in Libyan desert glass,
there's been a lot of controversy in trying
to figure out where it comes from. The
first two theories were, well, this might be
a kind of fulgurite,

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the great sand sea.
Where it comes from is
mostly pure quartz.
So it stands to reason that if we
get some kind
of lightning activity, we're gonna get pretty
clear fulgurites from it, except none of them
are in the right shapes to be fulgurites.
This forms large blocks

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quite large blocks by by natural glass standards,
outside of the realm of obsidian at least.
Another theory that was popular in this era
was that it was created by volcanic activity
on the moon
and eventually reached its way to us probably
with the help of, you know, something,
we'll say impactful in more ways than one,

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with regards to the moon. But we've we've,
like,
discredited that theory time and time again.
And there in the last maybe
ten or fifteen years, there have been a
couple theories that have gone back and forth
on who is the most likely.
And the challenge here is that

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we can very safely say, albeit we also
would very pedantically say, that this is not
a tektite,
because there's a specific definition in that term.
But exactly what it is is still slightly
open to debate, but I think the most
recent papers are are really

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indicative
of,
of getting close to an answer. So for
a long time, I favored a theory of
what we call radiative melt. So this is
like an airburst.
A meteor is coming through the sky. It
explodes in the atmosphere. It sends huge shock
waves,
rippling around, and we have evidence of this
kind of thing producing glasses both from New

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York activity as well as, like, trinitite, the
glass that was created from the Trinity testing
site with, atomic bombs.
And and it it seems very plausible. And
at a surface level kind of analysis,
this makes a lot more sense for the
sheer volume
of this material that has been uncovered.
The other main theory that's been out there,

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of course, is that
like other impact processes, it's from a meteorite
striking the earth. The challenge with this is
that
no crater has ever been found. No definitive
locus
for the impact site, therefore creating a predictable
stone field
has has really been located.
And around about 2013,

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an unusual
black rock
was analyzed,
and the composition of it is congruent with
fragments
of comet cores. So rather than our standard
kind of meteorite,
it is possible
that we have a comet responsible for one
of these two events, either the explosion in
the atmosphere with radiated melt or an actual

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impact.
And the challenge is that when we start
to look at the ingredients
inside
the glass, not just the glass itself, which
behaves like most glasses, it it has quite
a few anomalies,
but we start to look at the actual
crystalline components in there because we started by
saying it's not a true crystal, but it
actually contains a number of naturally occurring minerals.

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The most obvious that we can find,
my little piece here has them, but they're
probably not gonna show up on camera. They're
little, like,
puff balls of cristobalite, which is a high
temperature polymorph of quartz. It could definitely form
under this condition where we have something explode
in the atmosphere.
The challenge is
it it can't get hot enough by that

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event alone to create some of the other
things that are in there. This is considered
to be
one of the hottest
events to have created geologic material on the
Earth in excess of, I think something like
1,300
degrees Celsius,
and that that tells us something

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pretty remarkable. Now
one of the byproducts of this
is a kind of
a polymorph of zirconium oxide,
and we often just refer to it as
zirconia, and it forms with a cubic crystal
system. When we make it in a lab,
it's a diamond simulant, but it does actually
occur in nature. There is natural cubic zirconia

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out there. It is appreciably rare. And that
could happen by either of these processes.
But more important,
in some recent microscopy,
really, really detailed analysis, they found some anomalies
with little bits of zircon in there. So
zircon is a silicate
of zirconium,

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a distant, distant, distant relative, chemically speaking and
and process speaking, of of our cubic zirconia.
And
when you look at the structure of this,
it is apparent that it didn't start out
as zircon. It wasn't just all the ingredients,
zirconium,
silicon, and oxygen coming together to form one
crystal structure. Instead, it's almost like a patchwork

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quilt or maybe like a a better example
would be like a Rubik's cube.
And when you look at how the pieces
fit together,
it's apparent that they weren't shaped like this
and that it was actually
a very unstable
polymorph called redite, which has only ever been
found on the Earth
in one kind of event,

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and that's meteoric impact. It is the only
thing that gives us both
the heat and the pressure required to create
this unstable polymorph. Now, when when the temperature
gets hot enough, it doesn't stick around, but
zircon is a heck of a lot more
stable. So they've actually been able to analyze
this and figure out that it is created
by meteoric impact. However, that still doesn't make

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it a tektite.
And here's here's where we get to,
split some hairs.
When we look at these kind of impact
processes,
which includes
the event and the stuff made by it,
it isn't a tektite until it is thrown
away from the impact site.

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And so we've got things like our our
Indochainites and Thailandites and Vietnamites,
which are definitely impact types. We have moldavite
definite
or or or or tektites and moldavite definitely,
a tektite as well.
But then we get things which we call,
like, Nuon Nong style glasses that are often
layered. They show evidence of flow. They're usually

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in pretty large blocks,
too heavy to fly very far from the
crater. And then we get stuff like our
Darwin glasses as well from Tasmania that are
right there at the site of impact,
and therefore, they can potentially be quite large.
And there are pieces of Libyan desert glass
that that weigh tens of kilos. They're

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massive. They're phenomenal. They're
appreciably more rare now than they used to
be.
And this tells us also that it can't
have traveled very far.
What I found really exciting in researching for
this is that,
a a a sizable distance away from this
main locus of the living desert glass a

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few years ago, they discovered,
at, another site, another deposit of it. They
are smaller, which should make sense for traveling
a little bit farther, but the most unusual
bit to me is that they are pink
instead of the normal yellow, gold, or green.
I don't know how pink. I only have
black and white images, unfortunately, in

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academic papers, but I I would love to
just find
a teeny piece of, pink Libyan desert glass,
from Guadalquivi.
So hopefully, one day,
there's enough that they can put it on
the market. So far, there is not.
But but what we start to notice,
from all of this investigating,

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is that I find that there is
kind of this centering quality. It's like we
we keep,
we will say, circumambulating the the perimeter instead
of making it into
the core of the mystery.
And for me, this is very much like
the symbolism

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of the sun and all the things that
orbit it.
Sometimes a little bit of mystery is what
holds things together. We get the heart scarab,
the scarab itself, also a very solar symbol
in medical astrology.
The heart is ruled by the sun, and
it establishes this relationship with the center and
the periphery, the middle bits of us and
all the things in between that help it

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communicate. And there is a kind of centering
quality in this stone that whether or not
we know how it's formed, we we keep
orbiting it. We keep being drawn into this.
We have this kind of
fun
investigative
journey that we go on, but
none of that really matters when we fall
in love with it. There's something so

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immensely magnetic
about this stone that keeps things in motion.
It allows us to cultivate enough stillness that
there's room for
the rest to just fall into place.
And and I love that this material
is
such incredibly pure silica,

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and such incredibly anomalous silica as well.
It's one of the driest rocks on the
face of the Earth. There's almost no moisture
anywhere in it at all.
They're just true of most impact glasses and
TekTite glasses, but this one, like, takes the
cake.
It's also one of the oldest.
So we've got this incredible

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event
started by a rock that traveled
this immense distance, that made contact with us,
that brought this very solar,
luminous stone to the earth. And it was
as if some kind
of cataclysmic
inspiration
happened that laid these seeds that we're still

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working through together,
whether that's in the mineralogical sense or the
metaphysical sense.
And I I love that we still don't
quite have it figured out.
We are getting reasonably
certain,
I think,
but I look forward to the mystery unfolding
a little bit as we go on each

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year.
Nicholas, thank you so much for that, and
I really wanted to kinda clarify with the
term. So one thing I've kinda discovered today,
so it's not a tech type, but would
it be classified in as an impactite
or not? So it's it's definitely an impactite.
So our our our difference eventually essentially boils

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down to how far things travel.
So when we get that cosmic impact into
silica rich sediment, we can have very proximal
impact types, which don't travel very far at
all. So the big blocks of this that
historically have been found,
in Northern Africa are going to be examples
of this.
The ones that have traveled a little bit

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farther away and show and you can see
in some of the polished material evidence of
layers strata of, you know, the darker browns,
the richer greens, and then that kind of
straw kind of gold
background color. These are gonna be similar to
our, Nguyen Ng style,
impact glasses that you find in Vietnam and
and and elsewhere.

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They often have evidence of only partially melted
materials in them, which is what creates that
kind of flow patterns in them, still considered
impact glasses.
The next kind
of branch that we see forming,
are are proximal splash form tektites. So these
are things that are, you know, in, like,
the dumbbell shapes and kind of the teardrop

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shapes.
From there, we get into our medial and
our distal ones.
That's gonna take us to, like, the australites,
which are flanged. They have that kind of
button shape. They are probably the only ones
that made it into the farthest reaches of
the atmosphere.
When we look at the,
pressure of the air bubbles inside these things,

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it can give us clues as to, you
know, the distance away from the Earth, the
elevation at which they were formed. And and
by and large, tektites all form in our
atmosphere. They they don't get very far away.
The the tektites that account for the greatest
number
also happen to be the smallest. They're what
we call micro tektites, and they are often
very hard to see with the naked eye,

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similar to the size of a grain of
sand.
There are more of these by number than
anywhere else, but less by volume because they're
so tiny, and these travel immense distances.
And many of these, because they're so small,
we get a really clear,
you know, idea of their their true color,
because we don't have to cut them into,

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you know, thin sections and hold them up
to the light. And a lot of them
end up being, very similar colors
to,
moldavite, even the ones that are found, you
know, off the Ivory Coast and,
in in The Caribbean.
So,
yeah, it's it's it's definitely a case of
splitting hairs,
But to label this a tektite

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would be incorrect for several reasons, especially if
it didn't form by an impact at all.
We're we're not entirely sure. We're just mostly
sure that it was an impact. But if
it was formed by radiative melt, even collating
an impact glass is a challenge if there
wasn't an impact. So,
but I think we can safely say
this is an impact glass because we have

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a piece of the the shatter cone,
a piece of
the comet that may have been the cause,
and we can kind of map out the
stone field being so close to that event.
So if we're looking at all the impact
types and all the tech types that have
been found around the world,
do you have a bit of a rough
idea? And this is a random question, but

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are we likely to get a new one
in our lifetime or do they happen so
far apart from each other time wise that,
you know, we'll have to wait around another
ten thousand years probably till we get our
next tech type or impact type hitting the
earth and being significant.
You know, the the challenge is it's not
so much that they have to happen at
regular intervals.
It's just

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big enough space debris has to hit us
at the right angle. It has to be
big enough not to burn up in atmosphere,
which, of course, we hope it
is small enough not
not to hit us,
or that it will miss us if it
is significant. But there there are some things
hanging out there that that are on trajectories
that are, you know,

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only a little bit likely to ever hit
us,
it's possible. But, you know, it it would
take something kind of unusual happening. Thankfully, you
know, we've got astronomers out there looking at
all this stuff and,
trying to come up with solutions if something
major
were going to happen. It would it would
impact
life on Earth as we know it to

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generate
material
to the volume that something like
Libyan Desert Glass was created by.
And isn't there also, like I don't know
if you can confirm this, Nicholas. There's only
been something like 19
impacts, like, that have been witnessed by humans
in, like,

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recent history or at least in more modern
history. There's only been, like, a few
recorded ones around the world, and it's, like,
not even 20.
I I would I I don't have the
fact checking on this. I I could, like,
draw a map of some stone fields of
of tektites for you, but I'm I I'm
not an I've never done the deep dive
into meteorites to know exactly what has hit

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us most recently.
But but the truth is that most of
the stuff coming from space,
we never see because it's too tiny. The
things that we can see usually burn up,
and that's what creates our shooting stars,
and,
even fewer things are are are worth investigating.
And if you work in the geoscience field
for long enough,

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and sometimes if you just work in the
crystal shop for long enough,
you get those phone calls.
Hey. I think I found a meteorite.
And
they never do.
In in the earth science world where I
work,
one of our colleagues in another institution
has worked in, like, geochemistry and aerospace geology

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for his whole life.
He's had more than 600
people
inquire,
about specimens they found. And out of those
600, do you know how many actual meteorites
there were?
One. There was actually one. I thought the
number was gonna be zero as well, but,
no, Dan says there was one,
and it was not taken,

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under
I don't wanna get anyone in trouble. Let's
just say that it wasn't acquired through the
right channels, and it was also not geologically
significant.
So either, like, dump it back in the
earth or keep it in a box and
don't tell people about it.
So,
I have yet to have someone come to
me with an actual meteorite either, but maybe

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one day.
I don't know if the laws are the
same in America as they are in Australia,
but I believe if you do actually discover
a meteorite in Australia as a whole,
you have to hand it over. That's right.
Isn't it Kyle?
WA. That's Western Australia exclusively. It's not even
the rest of the country. Oh, so we
just kick it over the border then. It's
like a really old Western Australian law. It's

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so bizarre. So bizarre. It all has to
go through the museum.
Yeah. But I I saw the Americans. Were
you noting Americans that if you find one,
it's not yours?
There are similar laws all over the world.
Not not every place does it the same
way. Sometimes you just have to get a
consult. You have to have people sign off.
It depends on where it falls and in

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a lot of cases.
Here in The States, we have a lot
of, like,
more localized
laws rather than
national laws around something. So it it always
check with your local jurisdiction. If you really
think you found a meteorite or an impact
process,
it can't hurt to reach out to your
local Earth Science Museum, but just be prepared
to be disappointed.

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I I just be asking I'm just asking
for a friend.
I found my friend found a meteorite. What
should I do? Yeah.
So, obviously, there's gonna be amazing powers metaphysically
with Libyan desert class. So I'm really excited
to dive into that. Ashley,
take us through. What do you find this
to be really, really powerful for?
Yeah. So, Nicholas, I'm so glad that you

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brought up Tutankhamun's
Scarab
because we have that connection
with the heart.
And because this is
an impactite, we have that connection with the
cosmos, we have that connection with the stars,
and it's like bringing that energy into the
heart space, bringing that energy inside of us,
reminding us that we literally are all made

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of stardust, that we all carry
the universe within us, that it's we are
not separate from it, we are of it,
and that is one of, I think, the
big lessons of this stone.
But even more than that, if we think
about the fact that this is
a natural glass, right, and if we have
that,
fusing together of those grains of sand,

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it's the coming together of all the disparate
parts of ourselves.
So it's the stone for great wholeness.
It's also this deep reminder
that we cannot
exist and thrive on our own. We are
communal beings. We thrive in community. We thrive

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with the support of others,
and that we don't just find wholeness within
ourselves, but we find wholeness
when we embrace our role in community,
when we embrace that big picture of how
we can act with love, how we can
be of service, how we can come together
to do great things.

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And through this process
of community,
we ignite transformation.
We ignite deep change, and I think it
is so timely that we are doing this
episode,
right now on the heels of some some
pretty big moving and shaking,
not just here in The States, but globally

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for collective change, for
deep communal support,
for incredible
transformation
and hope and envisioning
what can be possible
when we get creative, when we work together,
when we lead with the love. And I
think this is such

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an amazing stone to sort of embody and
encapsulate
the energy of that right now, the spirit
of that, the sentiment of that.
So I think that this is,
a stone that that we can turn to
when we're feeling isolated. I think it's one
that we can turn to to remind us
of the power of movements and the power

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of community and the power of
action for positive change and that we all
carry within us
this spark of transformation,
this ability to ignite
something bigger
and
be that sort of inspiration to the next
person. Right? It's like,
you know, this is such a weird analogy,

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but this is what came into my head.
I, like, was not
raised in the church or anything, but I
went to Christmas Eve service service a couple
times. And I remember this thing with the
lighting of the candles, and everyone passes on
the candle flame to everyone else. It's kinda
like that. Like, you know, receive that little
bit of spark, but then pass it on,

(26:09):
ignite that next person, inspire them into action.
So you sort of continue to do that
and when we do that we light up
the whole world and that is where really
amazing things can happen. So I feel like
that's
the energy of this stone, and I kind
of love that, you know, all the way
back to the time of ancient Egypt. We

(26:30):
see that
in Tutankhamun's,
pectoral
plate. We see that scarab, that symbol of
sort of eternal life,
of
reincarnation,
of,
death and rebirth because sometimes those old structures
need to crumble and give way for that

(26:50):
transformation
to take place, for that new thing to
be born.
And so holding the energy of that transformation,
that hope in our hearts,
can inspire us to get through the hard
times. So if you have a piece of
jewelry
with the Libyan Desert Glass, if you have,
even just a pocket stone you can have

(27:12):
with you, especially in those times when things
feel tumultuous,
rocky, a bit unstable,
where you need that reminder
that sometimes
those old things have to crumble and fall
away before something
new and and even greater can be created,
this is a such a good companion to

(27:33):
have right now.
So, actually, you always have great tips on
different ways to use it. Do you think
this is just one that people need to
have near them to have that energy embodying
with their auric field, or is there any
ways in particular you think this would be
a really great one to work with and
utilize its energy?
One of my favorite things, and it's funny
that Nicholas said, this is, like, one of

(27:54):
the driest stones, technically.
I love to create a solar water. It
also has that deep connection with the sun.
So so many of us are familiar with,
like, moon
water. Well, guess what? You can create energy
infused or charged waters with the sun as
well. And because of that energy of hope,
change, transformation,
the sun

(28:16):
so
deeply embodies that quality
and that sort of,
ability to ignite us into action.
So just get a small glass or ceramic
dish,
put in some distilled water. You can use
mineral water. Everyone has different opinions on this.
I'll be honest. In a pinch, I'll just
use tap water. It's fine for me.

(28:38):
Put in your Libyan desert glass. Let it
charge in the sun all day. There's a
lot of different feelings. Some people are say
when you do any kind of gem water
essence you want to let it go like
a full twenty four hours something like that,
but I think if you're specifically
looking to capture the energy of that of
the sun I would put it out first
thing in the morning when you get up,

(28:58):
let it soak up the energy of that
sunlight all day, and then I would actually
remove it before it gets to dusk.
And then you can bottle that. You can
preserve it if you're gonna keep it more
than just a few days with
some apple cider vinegar, some vodka, some brandy.
That's a whole other episode,
gem waters or elixirs, but I like to

(29:19):
put this in a spray bottle,
not use it as an elixir I'm taking
internally, but rather spray it in my space.
So, Adam, I would love to know if
there's maybe even, like, an essential oil you
would recommend adding a couple drops of just
to create more of a vibrational spray if
you have the energy of the sun of
of the Libyan desert glass. Is there like

(29:41):
a solar energy essential oil you could see
adding to this?
You know, any of the citruses
are very much solar influence, so they would
all be great. You know, lemon or bergamot
would be some really great ones as well.
There's a really interesting
oil from New Zealand, in fact, that isn't
so much a solar oil, but works really,
really well with Vivint Desert Glass. It's known

(30:02):
as Manuka. And most people know Manuka as
a high premium,
honey that comes from the plant. But there's
an amazing essential oil that comes from that
as well.
To go kind of on a bit of
a tangent with Manuka,
when white settlers got to New Zealand, they
started to clear the land for agriculture because
that's how they need to obtain food.

(30:24):
And the best way they do that is
they just set fire to things.
But there's this one stubborn plant that would
keep growing back time and time again, and
it would hold the,
hold the soil together and stop erosion and
so on. And that was Manuka. And this
kind of teaches a little bit about the,
medicine of this oil from a metaphysical point

(30:45):
of view. You know, we all have and
and this may be relevant to what's happening
in the world right now, where we feel
we're getting screwed over or we've been burnt.
And what happens is that that warring nature
comes out, like, how dare they revenge kind
of thing. Another classic example would be when
someone gets a divorce. I'm gonna take them
for all they've got in that type of
thing. And Manuka is very, very soothing in

(31:08):
its influence. It just holds things together. And
I think it's a really great one for
helping to empower us, but not in this
old way of kind of like violent empowerment
or warring empowerment, but almost like contained empowerment,
if that makes sense. So I think the
Citrus would be absolutely great. But if you
are looking at that in a strength that

(31:28):
we've been talking about and how do we
navigate these tricky times when we all need
to come together, but not let's let's fight
back, but let's stand together
as a resistance.
Manuka might be a really interesting one for
people to look at as well.
I kinda love that, like, an oil for
the resistance, an oil of determination,
an oil of, like, springing back even when

(31:51):
things around you are, yeah,
being being literally burnt to the ground, finding
that strength in your roots and anchoring in.
Yeah. And even birds in New Zealand will
actually,
chew on the leaves, and then they'll actually
preen themselves to get rid of parasites.
So as we would be spritzing and using
that, it's also good for getting rid of,

(32:11):
you know, energetically,
things we want to get rid of as
well. So it's a real empowerment and letting
go of all the the chaos and the
the parasitical things that drain our energy as
well. So, yeah, it could be a real
fun combo to make. I've never made it
before. I have to give it a shot.
What about you, Kyle? I'd love to hear
about how you found this to be really
empowering for you.

(32:33):
Well, I would have to say Libyan Desert
Glasses, my top five
easily. This is a pendant that I've had
that I wear and I have been wearing
for over a decade.
I've got some of my favorite pieces here
with me, big, juicy, yummy, yummy things. I
we've all touched on it. Everyone's already touched
on it. Like, for me, that idea of

(32:54):
the solar energy, the sun energy, the outer
space energy, all of these things have come
together. But for me, it's about really being
the best leader you can for your own
life. That's what it's really taught me and
helped me being. And this is something we've
all touched on when you're able to be
a part of a community, when you're able
to sort of be connected, you can also
be a good person for yourself and your
own life. And often it's by

(33:16):
being a leader that you shine for others
and they can figure it out instead of
trying to fix everything and help everyone kind
of do what you need to do for
yourself. And
I was shown the difference between the sun
and the stars. Right? Our sun is technically
a star, but the stars are given this,
like, mystique. They're twinkling. They're beautiful. They guide
us through the darkness. They're here from afar.

(33:37):
But the sun,
oh, it's too harsh. It's too hot. It's
too bright. It's like
we can maybe not appreciate our own sun
as much as we do the stars. It's
like we cannot appreciate ourselves as much as
we do all the things around us and
the things that are far away. And for
me, it's like, no. Appreciate yourself. You're at
the center of your own solar system. There

(33:59):
are things that orbit you closely, your close
family, your work, then there are things that
get further away that are less influential,
that are less important. And then there are
you're a part of a galaxy that's a
part of a universe that is expanding.
So if you can give yourself that ability
to see yourself as your own universe or
your own center

(34:19):
of a rather large expanding universe,
Libyan Desert Glass guides us in the same
way, I think. It gives us that ability
of perspective shifts
and transforming
how we can be within our own will.
We can go, okay. I know that all
of that is influencing me, but I still
have to shine. I still have to do
this. I still have

(34:40):
to go to work, pay my bills.
I still have to conserve my energy.
And so this is where I think it
really helps us with boundaries
and boundary setting, which is a big thing
with the will center. It's about being
able to
utilize your energy correctly, not overextend,
not do too much, do less and be
more efficient with how you're using your energy.

(35:01):
Right? On our planet, the sun shines for
half the day, and then for half the
day, it's gone. Right? You are doing what
you need to do, then you rest. You're
just existing. You have your own cycles. You
have your own way of being. And I
think it's important that
we are allowed to be our own sun.
We are allowed to be our own center
point.
We can be too bright for others. We

(35:22):
can be too hot for some. You're too
close if I'm too bright for you. Put
some sunglasses on. That's not my problem. I'm
not going to dim my light for you.
I'm not going to change who I am
for you. I'm the center of my solar
system in my universe. You are yours and
you're just orbiting me. And if you're orbiting
me, obviously, I'm very magnetic
which we've touched on as well. And there's

(35:43):
something about
shining
that does bring magnetism.
Sometimes it's like moths to a flame. Sometimes
it's not necessarily a good thing, but it's
not that we shouldn't shine. We should always
shine because the sun gives us life. It's
about finding that Goldilocks zone. It's about finding
that balance and that perfect place to be.
And I think
Libyan doesn't last with all it's been through,

(36:05):
with all of its age, with all of
its complexity,
with all of its time. I think it
really shows us that
we can be our own
leader. We can be our own center of
importance, and we can be a part of
something that is bigger and grander and
more complex than we need to know about,
than we need to understand. We are just

(36:26):
parts of that big piece of the puzzle.
And if all you can see is what's
around you, that's fine. Why are we constantly
trying to go out there so far into
space when there are so many problems here
on Earth that need to be fixed and
could be fixed?
Right?
Right? Same with yourself. Instead of thinking about
all those things outside of your periphery that
you can't fix, that you can't do anything

(36:47):
about,
sit with your Libyan desert glass and bring
your focus inwards.
What can I do? What is within my
realms of power? What is
up to me and not up to others?
Where do I need to conserve, and where
do I need to do more? Where can
I actually take more action? Where could I
be more proactive?
And this is where, like, where I wear

(37:08):
this. It sits either over my over my
heart center or just a little bit lower.
It'll always sit basically where that scarab sat
on touch.
And I always find it emanates and spreads
out and just allows me to
get out of here
and into here. Get into your center and
work from that center outwards.

(37:30):
I I really love the way you framed
this, and it, like, gave me an moment
that ties another part of my life into
this conversation.
I am a really
dedicated Reiki practitioner, teacher, researcher, and and there's
a phrase that is often attributed to the
founder of the system. In Japanese, it's it's

(37:50):
something to the effect of
which means I am the universe or I
exist in the universe and the universe exists
in me. And it's
that same, like, hermetic
teaching
as above, so below, as within, so without.
And and I I feel like you just
gave me this beautiful light bulb moment that
connects these two things, and I think it

(38:11):
explains
why I have this really visceral, like,
embodied connection to this town because that's what
it's about. It's it's embodying
the universe and recognizing that and claiming the
sovereignty that comes from that. So thank you.
The goosebumps that I am getting right now
is honestly insane. Literally all up my arms.

(38:31):
It's
I love it. It's so, so cool. And
I think that's the energy of Libyan desert
glass, it's profound. It's not
little. Like, it's color is subtle. You know?
That sort of insipid yellow isn't everyone's cup
of tea, but when you sit with it,
there's so so much.
So I'd love to theorize with everyone for

(38:52):
a moment. Why do you think that bold
divide in the general consciousness has got more
attention
than Libyan desert glass?
There's a couple of people trying to speak
at once, I think.
Kyle.
It's the impact of
rapidity and our obsession
with,
instant gratification in today's day and age for

(39:14):
me. Like, it's the coinciding of motivate doing
things quickly. It's gonna transform things quickly in
today's
life. Style is driven by instant gratification. But
that's my opinion.
Okay. Yeah. Nicholas, what do you reckon?
Oh, I I'll take the much more mundane
route, and it it totally comes from
the efforts
of a single company to market it at

(39:36):
an auspicious
moment,
publishing the world's first book dedicated solely to
the metaphysical properties
of a tektite, which had never been done
before. It was groundbreaking. It was revolutionary.
And and the fact that so many
seemingly
synchronistic,
fortuitous things happened around that, that it kind
of etched its mark in the collective psyche

(39:59):
of the modern metaphysical milieu ever since without
the popularity
of
of the efforts of such a small team
of people,
we wouldn't have access to other tektites. We
wouldn't have, you know, the kind of, we'll
say,
cultural
obsession
with high intensity or high vibe or high
frequency stones,

(40:20):
which comes with its own capitalist kind of
baggage. Right? We want bigger, better, faster, and
we want it now. If we could get
it yesterday, that'd be even better, and we
want it for the best price available. But
we want it to also be worth a
lot of money because it should look expensive.
So, like, all of these things kind of
come together in in in how we culturally
form meaning

(40:40):
around
moldavite. Yes. There's a spiritual component. It's a
kick ass stone. I love it. I've worked
with it since I was
I don't know if I wanna say that
on camera, but it's been decades
that I have worked with moldavite. And, I
actually got my first piece of Libyan desert
glass as a college student,
working in the museum I work in again
now. Yeah. I'm having so many full circle

(41:01):
moments lately.
But,
you know, honestly, we we can attribute the
rise in popularity to the efforts of two
people,
two
very synchronistic efforts
that have, I think, benefited a lot of
people in a lot of ways. But, really,
it's it's good marketing.
I think I also have to address something
that Nicholas
kinda started to touch on here.

(41:23):
And I'm gonna be more of a jerk
about it because Nicholas is so eloquent and
so kind.
There is an elitist quality to moldavite
that
when it started to take off because it
was just a little bit more pricey. It
was a little bit more fancy.
It was like some it was a status
symbol for a lot of people

(41:43):
to show, like, how big of a piece
of moldavite they could basically afford,
but then they translated that dollar for dollar
investment
into
how big of a piece of moldavite I
can work with without having my life rocked
like all these TikTok people are saying. So
that must mean
then I am so spiritual and I am

(42:05):
so enlightened because I can work with this
giant piece of moldavite around my neck and
be very unbothered
nails painting emoji,
like the whole that kind of energy.
So for me,
agree with Nicholas. I love the stone. I
think it has some great qualities.
Do I think there are better options that
I'm much more drawn to? Yes. Am I

(42:26):
also that rebel that when something becomes trendy
and fashionable, I'm gonna hard reject it? Yeah.
A little bit of that too.
When I think of the energies and how
I normally parallel them is I find moldavite
to almost be leo esque in a in
its assertion and its power it it likes
to be very showy. But for me, Libyan
Desert Glass has got more of a Scorpio
energy, and I believe both have the same

(42:48):
amount
of passion or dynamic energy within their signs.
But whereas Leo wants to be the star
of the show,
Scorpio maybe wants to be the director of
the show, and I find Libyan Desert Glass
works really well with that. Now I do
want to apologize to everyone because anyone who's
been watching the video version of this, they've
probably been squinting their eyes trying to see

(43:08):
all these little bits of Libyan Desert Glass
that my cohost have been showing. Let's look
at a real piece of Libyan desert glass.
We've been talking about the center of the
universe and the center of the sun. This
is the center of my complete crystal,
collection. So I found this, where I used
to work at a wholesaler
a few years ago. It was not cheap,

(43:28):
and I actually had to pay it off
over about two and a half years until
they actually got to come home with me.
But I absolutely love this stone,
and I have loved working with it. For
me, why I think it's so poignant at
this point in time and especially if you
hark back to what Ashley was saying about
this, time of power.
There's a really kind of

(43:51):
significant but yet insignificant
astrological event happening this week as well. Now
you may have been listening to these episodes,
and some weeks I talk about Venus on
Mercury, and you're like, yeah. We get that.
And then I occasionally talk about asteroids. And
then I'm going on to these dwarf planets.
And you're like, why is Adam going off
on all these weird and wonderful tangents and
just making up names surely type of thing.

(44:13):
So let me put this all in context
for you. So when we're talking about
our core planet, those are the core parts
of our identity that we all know and
we all see every day from our sun
sign all the way through to our Pluto
sign and so on.
Asteroids, which are all floating around in our
solar system, help us to get the more
fine tuned bits, And they kind of separate

(44:34):
one Leo from another Leo, one Aries from
another Aries and so on by where these
asteroids took place when you were born.
But what we started to discover since the
year February,
remember that we're all, you know, getting excited
about the year February and the awakening of
a new consciousness,
was these potential new what are classified as
dwarf planets?
They are also sometimes called trans Neptunian objects.

(44:57):
So they're things beyond Neptune that are floating
around. And that's kind of Pluto is our
best known one, but there are more and
more kind of being discovered. And now astronomers
are debating which ones qualify as dwarfs and
which aren't.
I'm not too fussed with exactly which ones
make the cut in their definition or not.
There are significant
astronomical bodies out there that are in the

(45:19):
far deeper realms or the the the further
realms of our consciousness and our awareness. And
as we evolve as humanity,
tapping into these bring in new things.
Now one of these is known as Varuna,
and each of the dwarf planets help us
to tap into a new consciousness of awareness
that probably has already been in discussion for

(45:40):
a few decades, but Varuna is very much
about power.
Now when we think about power and even
if we're gonna go back through history and
talk about power, it's normal about normally about
how do we dominate?
How does one thing take control of another?
Whereas Varun is very much about how does
one be empowered and how does one lead

(46:01):
without force.
Now if we look through history,
that's never been done really. It's always been
whoever's empowered is the one who's killed killed
all their, opposition and being able to force
their way in. And we still see that
old mentality. But you can see now that
there is this bubbling in our new consciousness
of how can someone rule? How can someone

(46:23):
be empowered?
How can someone lead
without having to
annihilate
any opposition in that way? And that's why
I love living in Desert Glass for this
time as Varuna comes out of retrograde. So
these ideas may have been bubbling up in
us.
And, you know, politically at the moment, there's
a lot of this, kind of questioning of
how does someone lead without

(46:45):
being a bully or dominating or being nasty
in that type of way? And these questions
come up during the retrograde and now it's
time for us to start showing this even
in our own personal lives, not just on
a global scale. And I find living in
Desert Glass is a really great one for
helping us to feel
empowered. And I often, you know, on my
personal YouTube channel, I have this listed as

(47:08):
the stone of the silent warrior. And I
think this is a really beautiful one for
helping us to work out. How can I
be empowered in this way but
not do it in How can I be
powerful without having to annihilate everyone else in
that way? And I love what Kyle was
talking about, the sun and the stars.
And, you know, there are many, many suns

(47:29):
in this
whole great space that we exist in, but
we're only one of those stars which is
known within our sun as well. So I
love this stone. I think it's a really
poignant time for us to be working with
it personally, astrologically,
and what's happening in the world at the
moment. But I'd love to ask everyone,
is there any other ways that you've worked
with this? Or I I love to actually

(47:50):
this idea of the solar water type of
thing. Have you got any other ways that
you think people could try,
and and work with this stone a little
bit more?
I
was also going to volunteer solar water, but
someone beat me to it because great minds
think alike.
I love taking this stone this stone out
into sunlight. I'm fair skinned. I don't do

(48:10):
a lot of direct sun, but, like, early
morning,
hold it to your brow facing the sunrise
and let that light
fill you.
I'm I'm, like, reminded
of the mythos that we have of, like,
the monk Kukai
meditating,
facing
the the direction of dawn, and Venus, the
morning star, is said to land in his

(48:31):
mouth and bring
all of the wisdom of enlightenment with him.
Like, just just to have that kind of,
you know, phosphoric, that light bringing energy,
would be such a lovely meditation.
Is that you've seen the the trend of
sunflowering
on social media?
No. It's kind of doing just that. You

(48:54):
literally go outside. You find the sun,
orient your face toward it, put your hands
down by your sides in, like, plank position,
and then
and just
sunflower yourself
by facing the sun. Close your eyes. Let
it soak up.
In my world, we just call that basking.

(49:15):
Like,
and I will do that any chance I
can. I'm definitely part lizard.
And I also love this idea of what
we're doing by meditating with it, taking time
with it. But I'd like you to think
about when you're working with it, what little
actions am I doing now
that will influence the future?
Asking yourself this question when you're working with

(49:36):
it. Think of the sunlight, how it comes
to us fairly directly, and then think about
starlight, how it takes light years to get
to us. Right? The things you do now
have lasting impacts,
so be conscious of what choices you're making.
I think one more thing I would like
to share before we run out the clock
on this episode
is I've long done this practice where I

(49:58):
create a really
I I don't know if I would even
call it a crystal grid. It doesn't follow
any sacred geometry. In my head, I've always
just called it a grid, but it's like
a grid for the solar system. And so
I have a crystal to represent each planet,
and I just put them on a little
drawing of the different orbital paths of each
planet and that are around a central sun.
So you could use something like this to

(50:19):
represent the sun. But I almost think there's
something really cool we could do with what
Kyle was
saying and thinking about yourself as the center
of your universe
and using this Libyan desert glass to kind
of represent yourself in that inner spark and
that inner light and letting yourself shine. And
then what else is in your orbit? What
else is in your universe? And choose a

(50:40):
stone to represent each of those things
and place them around you. I think there
could be something really powerful and sort of
like painting a personal picture of your universe
with crystals.
I love that. I love the idea that
I I'm gonna get into sunflowering. I I'm
gonna take on that thing. But, you know,
from a real practical point of view, we
know that a lot of people struggle with

(51:02):
sleep. Our balance between our serotonin and our
melatonin,
balances is really kind of screwed up for
many, many people.
And that, one of the best things you
can do is when you get up in
the morning, get that sunshine on the eyeballs.
So I think, you know, get your Libyan
desert glass glass outside, go on sunflower first
thing in the morning, and I think that
would be do

(51:22):
absolute wonders for you in that way as
well.
Now a couple of things for the evening
that I've I like to go connecting more
with that star like,
kind of
energy, grab,
five if you have five different types of
tech types, impact types, so it could be
a moldavite, it could be a dialing glass,
it could be a palisade or that type

(51:44):
of thing. Go lay outside under the stars
and what I call the pentagram position. So
kind of arms out and feet out, head
head back and put one at each point
type of thing. For and that's a bit
of a like a
I I've encouraged lots of people to do
it. Lots of people have had different experiences
with that, but it's a real kind of,
you know, you're working with galactic stones that

(52:05):
have been gifted from the universe.
It can be quite profound in that way.
People that are interested in past lives and
thing and want kind of a bit of
a really, like,
oh, soulful,
maybe duet.
Numite and Libyan Desert Glass was one I
read. I can't remember where I read it
decades ago now, but but I I I

(52:26):
like to pair these two together and I
find that they pneumaite is obviously a very
old mineral from this earth
combining it with something that was gifted from
the
from the solar system or the universe. So
I think combining these two wisdoms together can
be a really nice empowering energy as well.
So if you I know I'm know I
often get asked which crystals go well together.

(52:48):
I'm gonna say pneumite and live in desert
glass might be a duet that people might
like to try as well.
So, hopefully,
the share price of Living Desert
Glass has just gone up and motorbikes has
gone down because of our episode.
Now while share markets are tanking around the
world, maybe we should all just go out
and buy some Living Desert Glass. We don't

(53:09):
wanna keep you any minutes longer.
Go do that. We'll be back next week
when we dive into another crystal or gift
from mother earth. When we talk about moldavite,
yeah, we'll get around to it one day.
We'll see you next week so you can
find out what we do then. Until then,
take care and blessed
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