Ruby Meaning | Crystal for Emotional Strength & More! [Crystal Confab Podcast] - Love & Light Live Crystal Healing Podcast

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Are you just starting with crystals?
Or maybe you have a whole collection but
aren't sure how to use them? Join four
crystal nerds, healers, workers, and lovers for crystal
confab, a casual chat about all things crystals.
Hello, and welcome to another episode of crystal
confab where I'll be confabbing with my crystal

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besties
about one of our
collected favorite stones, as we always say.
This week,
Adam, Nicholas,
Kyle, and myself are chatting about
ruby. I am so excited about this episode.
I actually just got this brand new Ruby
palm stone from the Tucson Gem and Mineral

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Show about two months ago,
and it has just been sitting on my
desk, kinda letting me hold it, draw some
inspiration.
So, how is everybody doing today?
Really well. And I'm really wrapped to be
talking about ruby. It is one of my
favorite crystals, especially when it comes to, like,
red crystals. I find it really empowering as
well.
And I really am enthusiastic to have this

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conversation because I think sometimes people forget about,
like, rubies, sapphires, emeralds, and diamonds because they
kind of think of them as being, like,
jewelry.
And so there's probably people that have a
ruby and don't realize that the ruby because
it's their engagement ring. It's not a tumbled
stone in that way. But in saying that
as well, you know, I'd love to know
how much you paid for your palm stone.

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Rubies don't have to be that expensive. They
are gonna be more than your amethyst or
your rose quartz, but this is a piece
I paid, 50 Australian dollars for type of
thing. It's just a tumbled stone. It obviously
isn't of the quality that can be turned
into a ring necessarily,
but it's I think it's a real powerful
crystal to have in your collection.
That's a great point, Adam. And so often

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when we're talking about, you know, crystals, we're
especially in the crystal healing community, we're not
necessarily thinking
fine jewelry. We're not necessarily thinking
precious gems. And those precious gems, the ruby,
sapphire, emerald, and diamond,
are kind of in a class of their
own, and then we have all the semi
precious gems
kind of that we see more commonly in

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the type of jewelry that, you know, we've
been showing, frankly, in quite a lot of
these episodes now.
This ruby palm stone, it's a good size.
It's a very nice quality. It has good
color. I think it was about 55
US dollars, so not too bad.
That's yeah. I'm I'm very, very jealous of
that. It's also interesting when we talk about
those top four that we both listed,

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with ruby rubies and sapphires,
they're actually the same stone, aren't they? They're
both corundum, but just different colors,
which is quite that really interesting.
And, you know, as I as I was
learning throughout the years, I realized, oh, wow.
We We always think of sapphires as being
blue, but, no. You can get them in
orange, yellow, green, white, black, every color. The

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only color that ain't come in is red.
Well, they do, but we just call that
a ruby. And, Nicholas, do you know by
any chance why that is? Is that just
through tradition before they realized it's all the
same stone?
Yeah. So, you know, sapphire once used to
mean more or less any blue stone, and
ruby literally comes from Latin, ruby as red

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red colored gems. So, you know, they got
some disambiguation
over time. Like, the original sapphire, as we'll
talk about another week,
is
not even remotely geologically related to what we
think of as sapphire today.
That is another
an another semiprecious
gem, Lapis Lazuli.
But, you know, rubies have been

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conflated with lots of other red gems over
the years. If they were cut the right
way, we knew them as carbuncles. If they
were cut other ways, we'd call them other
things.
And we've we've kind of kept the designation
over the years even though we had to
attribute a name to all those other color
varieties of corundum.
Yeah. Really, really interesting with that.

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Well and we started talking a little bit
before the show started about
not just,
corundum,
but we also were talking about rubies
that grow in other things. Like, we have
rubyzoosite,
ruby fuchsia. We have so many things that
we can see, these little bits of ruby
growing in. We even have,
there there are a number of things that

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I've seen coming out of India as well,
which have been labeled ruby, but I have,
through a little experimentation, learned that they're actually
spinel. So we'll see them in some, like,
limestone or granite matrix. And I think, Kyle,
do you wanna chime in on that one?
I
am obsessed with the Ruby Spinel confusion.
And, like, from when I got my Gemology

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degree, I went on holiday to Europe for
a month. The one class that I missed
over the whole time I did my Gemo
degree
was Spinel.
And when it came up in testing, I
was like, oh, it's a ruby.
It was spinels. And I love that there
are crown jewels around the world that have
rubies,
but are actually have been defined as spinels

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by modern technology. Like, I just love it.
I love that little niche thing.
Yeah. One of those really famous cases of,
a misnomer is the black princess ruby, which
is actually a giant spinel and is said
to,
bring misfortune to any male who wears the
crown it's set in.
And, curiously enough, before the last coronation, that

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was not a gem that appeared in it.
So
is it is it a little piece of
superstition,
or or was it just not fashionable to
wear the spinel? We don't really know.
I love it. I love it. That's so,
so cool.
One one other thing I wanted to clarify
as well, you did notice I I I
noticed you mentioned a couple of combinations actually

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that Ruby comes in.
Now I've always had Fuchsia.
But then recently,
I believe that the guy who found it
surname was actually pronounced Fook. So it is
Fuchsia.
She's always fine. It's like saying urinals.
So,
which is, you know, it it's really but
it is especially everywhere around the world. You

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do hear the, don't you?
Yeah. So, I mean, it's definitely.
I have honestly just changed my pronunciation over
the years, which I know I shouldn't give
in to popular
whims.
But,
honestly, I was tired of people looking at
me funny.
So but, yes, Fuchsite, Ruby Fuchsite.

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Now one thing I've noticed, and I don't
know if all of you have dealt with
this as well, but people tend to get
these two confused
all the
time because they're bits of ruby
with a green sort of matrix, right?
So one way
for those who are watching to sort of
tell these apart, the zoocyte

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will actually have lots of little black dots
in it. You don't really see that with
the Fuchsite.
So you'll see more usually like a little
white ring around the ruby or sometimes you'll
even see little bits of blue kyanite in
there,
But if it has black dots, you're looking
at Ruby zoasite. If it doesn't, then you're
not.
Yeah. Can I also throw in that, like,

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Fauxite will generally sparkle? Like, generally, your Ruby
and Fauxite because Fauxite's a mica,
generally it has a sparkle and I have
managed to acquire a this is
ruby fuchsite and kyanite
and it comes from India and I just
think it's some of the most beautiful material
that I've ever seen

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And I just love that sparkle that you
get from the fuchsia that's so
glittery. Like, it just adds something whereas I
find zoisia a bit, like, denser. It's a
little bit more serious.
Actually, I have a quick question. The white
that we see that usually surrounds Ruby, is
that calcite in there? I'm trying to remember
off the top of my head. Nicholas, you

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know.
Those are actually,
kyanite rich zones. So it's like really pale
green kyanite. So what we're what we're seeing
are the various indicator species of regional metamorphism
in these rocks.
So the annulite or the ruby in zoisite
as well as the ruby in fuchsite and
the ruby
in

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kyanite
and ruby in cordy. Right? They're they're all
examples of rubies that are formed by metamorphic
activity, and the stuff that they're around with
tells us
kinda how much it got squished and or
heated by that metamorphic process.
That is super cool. I saw somebody who
had a palm stone once. It was a
local guy who did lapidary work here of

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the Ruby Fuchsite,
and he had actually carved away
the little white ring of, I guess, what
is we now know as kyanite
with because it's softer. Right? And the ruby
is so hard. So he had just, like,
slowly carved that away and carved that away.
So there was this little, like, moat around
the ruby, and I don't know why I
thought it was so fascinating. It just looked

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very cool, like, a little bit kind of
ruined the palm stone arguably, but it was
very cool looking. So it was neat. He
was trying to dig the ruby out of
it.
Yeah. One one of the other kind of
combinations I've seen
kind of mislabeled as Ruby and albite are
these kind of gneissic,
probably metagranites.
So there is albite in there, but they're

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they they have a little hexagonal cross sections
of Ruby, not to be confused with
those metamorphic rocks or, I'm sorry, igneous rocks
that have the spinels in them. The the
nomenclature
gets a little too fuzzy
on the market sometimes.
So, Kyle, I can't ask you this question
because you skipped this class. But if someone's
got a stone at home, and they're like,

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oh, now would this be Spinel or would
this be Ruby? How how could someone tell?
Well,
what I realized and what I learned was
the there's a density difference, which is, I
think, quite important.
Corundum has,
denser heavier
energy
and literally will be heavier in the hand

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than your spinels.
And if you have them raw spinels are
cubic
which they form in beautiful little diamond shapes
and all of that sort of stuff. Rubies
are hexagonal,
and what's really important about these two crystal
op crystal groups is ruby will show two
colors under a microscope and spinel will only
show one zone of red and one shade

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of red only. With your rubies, you'll see
like a red pink and a red or
two different shades of your reds together if
you have that especially. Even in the sun,
you'll you'll actually see it shift with sunlight
as well
and that is the main differentiation,
and it is stuck in my head forever
because I didn't learn it the first time,
and I had to learn it secondly.

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There you go. There's a life lesson right
there. Mistakes can be great because then you
go back and learn the lesson harder, don't
you?
What about UV reaction
in ruby versus spinel? Can that be
relied upon for identification?
We're we're getting people shaking their heads there.
Yep. Tyler and he's also shaking their heads

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off off camera. So, no, I guess not.
Yeah. So, like,
the the deal is and there's a little
bit of misunderstanding about this I see frequently
on the Internet,
where people will talk about
the absence of iron is what causes ruby
to fluoresce, and that's half true.
The presence of chromium causes ruby to fluoresce,

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but the presence of iron quenches
fluorescence.
So not every ruby will fluoresce. It depends
on the distribution
of those two,
you know, very, very nominal amounts of trace
elements in them. And then spinels fluoresce differently
depend on their
trace makeup and also where they come from.
So,

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there is a particularly,
we'll say,
recognizable
chromium induced fluorescence in many rubies.
If if you know that shade,
I think you have a statistical likelihood you're
looking at a ruby. But but also if
there's just a little too much iron in
it, you get virtually no fluorescence, and it
could still be a ruby.

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Now, actually, you you always had some really
interesting insights on how Ruby's have, like, been
used in lore and different things like that
from the past. Have you got anything great
that you can share about this, though?
I mean, Ruby has a really long history
of use.
But, you know, one of the things I
love about working with this stone is that
it is such a great

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stone for, like, boosting
vitality
and boosting motivation and enhancing
your energy, your drive, your passion.
Like, it is that stone that if you
are just in a funk, if you are
in a slump and you need something to
pick yourself up out of it,
this can be a really, really wonderful stone
to work with. It's so fiery. It's so

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vibrant. It just
really kind of lifts you up. And we
can see
some of that when we look at
some of the legend and lore. So we
know we're just talking about, you know, rubies
or maybe not rubies included in crown jewels.
This is, a stone that has a history
that was thought to make kings invincible.

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I mean, can you imagine feeling
that level of power? And there's something to
be said for the level of, like, wealth
and opulence and probably good protection and guard
that someone would have had if they were
special enough to have
one of these pieces of ruby in their
in their crown in their crown jewels.

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So it was said that it was kind
of a king's best friend, supposed to help
instill a certain level of confidence and kingliness
and being able to, you know, make those
big decisions and guide your kingdom. So we
can look at how that translates in our
own lives, us mere peasants. Right?
Where do we have the ability to sort

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of
rule over our domains? How can we make
decisions that will impact
our
homes, our livelihoods,
our neighbors, our communities
in a way that is beneficial,
but also in a way that sort of
empowers us, that emboldens us to sort of
push the envelope in what we think,

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we are capable of and what is possible
for us.
This can be a great thing to drive
us forward and put ourselves outside of our
normal comfort zone. So let this kind of
motivate you to take those actions that even
feel big and scary because they can often
to,
lead to bigger, better things. Now Ruby also

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has an interesting history as a stone that
was known to staunch bleeding,
which we know medically
not the case, right? We do not advocate
that.
But if we look at kind of the
symbolism
of that, when we are bleeding, when we
are wounded,
it is a stone that can heal us.
So if we're dealing with some emotional wounding,

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some emotional trauma, some things that need some
really deep healing,
ruby can be a great companion for us
to do that work. So if you wanna
sit with that Ruby, if you feel comfortable
exploring those things, if you don't, don't do
it. If you're not in a place where
that feels comfortable or productive, you don't have
to go there. But if you're like, okay,

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I'm in this space where I feel like
that's something I need to explore so I
can work on that deep healing,
hold your ruby. Do a bit of journaling.
Do a bit of self reflection.
Maybe even have it in your hands as
a little fidget while you're talking things out
with a trusted loved one. This can be
a stone to sort of staunch that emotional

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wounding that you may have experienced.
It's also said to kind of
help you resist the effects of poison, which
we've talked about in previous episodes with other
stones. Again,
not reliable medical advice. I don't think any
of us would would turn to our ruby
if we had been poisoned.
But if we think again about the symbolism,

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kind of
releasing,
removing,
dissolving, extracting
those things that are a poison in our
lives, those toxic environments, those toxic people,
toxic workplace,
toxic
relatives, whatever it is,
you may
want to turn to Ruby for some support

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because of that sense of power that it
provides.
It also helps you with your discernment,
be more confident in your choices and your
decisions.
Sometimes we need to make a decision that's
really difficult. Maybe there's someone that we love
very deeply that we care for, but we
know they are not a positive influence in
our lives. And so it can help us

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set some firmer boundaries. It can help us
sort of mitigate the effects of that poison,
of that toxic person or toxic environment,
especially if you wanna pair it with a
really protective crystal like black tourmaline
or a really cleansing crystal like selenite. I
think these could be great pairings

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for helping you move forward in that.
Finally,
it is
a crystal that has this history of helping
you sort of live
peacefully,
even
surrounded by enemies. So it is one that
can sort of put up those
walls or barriers that creates a bit of
space and therefore protection.

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So that is also something we can do
in our own lives. Carry it around in
your pocket, wear it as a piece of
jewelry if you just need that bit of
space
from things that are going on. Sometimes
it's so easy for us to get sucked
into the drama and chaos
that is really none of our business. So
having some Ruby

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to keep that boundary, keep you out of
it as sort of a distant
observer can be
really helpful.
One thing that I, really love about what
you're sharing there, actually, is, you know, some
of the words like the empowerment and kind
of overcoming adversity and
our inner pain and things that are caused
of pain outside of ourselves.

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When it comes to the four main archangels,
I know different people associate different stones, but
I love,
you know, when it comes to Archangel Michael,
he's often associated with this royal blue color,
but he is also the guardian of the
element of fire. And I find rubies and
that fiery power. I think this is a
great conduit for working with Archangel Michael. We

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often see, you know, that kind of traditional
photo or that statue where he's got that
head on that demon.
And the idea of that is, you know,
you know, we all have demons. Now they
may not be these horrible, like,
kind of grueling things, some of them, but
we've got our own monsters that we have
to deal with in our lives. And I
think Ruby,
really, you know, whether we want to work

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with Archangel Michael as a personification
of that fiery empowerment energy, there are things
that we have control over in our lives,
but also things we can't. But Ruby and
Michael will help us to overcome them in
a way that we don't feel drained.
As as the king felt protected, we can
sit on the throne of our life and
be in control of our life rather than

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being wet swept off it.
I really like that, Adam. And and, you
know, I have always associated Archangel Michael with
Blue Sapphire.
So how interesting
that we have our corundum
showing up in Blue Sapphire and in Ruby.
It's kind of like two sides of the
same coin, so I really love that.
Now I kind of talked about, you know,

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healing that emotional wounding
with Ruby. And, Nicholas, I know this is
a stone that you've turned
to really for some emotional strength.
Yeah.
I think
I think it's so easy to focus on
our precious, brilliant,
fiery,
crimson rubies, but it was

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my college years, some decades ago now, when
I was reading
what was then a hard to find book,
but is now an even harder to find
book, Crystal Journey
by my my beloved friend, Jane Ann Dow,
before she passed. And she talks about rock
rubies, which are the inexpensive ones we're gonna
find usually tumbled, but also sometimes as little

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fragmentary bits or, you know, nice little cross
sections of crystals.
They might be
more of a purpley brown than a proper
red because they're gonna have extra iron in
them, but
she describes them as the stone of
easing emotional pain. And the particular mechanism that
she discusses, I think, overlaps with my gemstone

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energy medicine training that came much later in
life,
in in some approaches to crystal healing,
such as the stone medicine of, you know,
traditional Chinese medicine or in this, you know,
gem therapy, gemstone energy medicine, we associate that
the brilliance of ruby, the red ray that
it carries with
our
physical strength.

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And it is sometimes connected to the pericardium,
that sheath around the heart, that membrane that
envelops it and keeps stuff out,
but still allows for the transference of of
nutrients, the expulsion of waste. It's a
kind of selectively permeable membrane,
and Ruby gives us this sense of fortitude,

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this strength that we can drop into as
we need it. It helps to kind of
regulate and restore the health of
our center of vitality, which is, you know,
symbolically the heart, but also our metaphorical heart
at the center of our being, I think,
is a really good,
element of this. But Jane Ann describes these

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rock rubies as really helpful for when we
encounter emotional pain.
We can
sweep it under the rug.
We can stare it down.
We can kind of acknowledge it and move
on, but none of those things really do
much. So,
what what these rubies do for us, particularly

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the the less pretty ones,
is they invite us
to to kind of lean into the discomfort
and to breathe through it.
The only way out is through whether it
is
emotional
pain, whether it is a
spiritual burden, or whether it's the pain in
our physical body. Like, we can't we can't
wave a magic wand and make that go

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away, but we have to find a way
to cultivate resilience
in the face of it.
We need to feel
as if we have the resources
to handle that amidst everything else going on.
And for me, it feels like the hardness
of Ruby being corundum, it's a nine on
our Mohs hardness scale.

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It is enough to
break through
the barrier, the threshold of it so we
can keep moving forward.
It it can also help us divert our
attention to the breath as a vehicle for
doing that. With a laser like focus, we
can we can shift from
what we don't like to where we want

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to go instead
of maybe only looking at the road bump.
We've got our eyes on the horizon.
We still have to move over the road
bump, but we have to remember why we're
doing it. And Ruby grants this sense of,
we'll say, poise
and,
a surprising amount of grace, flexibility.

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For for such a rough stone, I do
find that,
maybe it's because of its frequent associations with
things that,
like mica schist and fuchsite, are are a
lot more flexible or the softness of the
ruby
matrix that we find in many parts of
the world, which are in fact just calcite.

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We find these, like, metamorphosed limestones that have
become marbles that are the host of some
of the most brilliant rubies you're ever gonna
find in the world.
And these these are matrixes that are easily
eroded, which is how we can get such
great quality rubies from some of these metamorphic
deposits.
When we really embrace that, when we

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don't shy away from our pain, our trauma,
our troubles in life,
we can prepare ourselves to
maybe meet life with more honesty,
more integrity.
Ruby helps us by enabling us to kinda
step into that unflinchingly.
We're not afraid of something just because it's
uncomfortable.

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That's
life. Life is uncomfortable.
Ruby is like
the the flame that lights the torch we
use to see through those
uncomfortable
and unknown situations
when we're encountering
new layers to our baggage.
You know, the human psyche is funny like
that. It gets really sophisticated. And just because

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we can put a label on it, we
think we're past it, but
there's a kind of cyclical nature to healing.
Just when you think you're done, you're gonna
trip over some more
we'll call it stuff. That's nice in the
word I wanna use.
And and when we do that,
we've got an opportunity to rise to the
occasion again.

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And I particularly
find that
ruby is great for excavating
the stuff that's buried really deep.
The hardness of the stone, its connection to
fire to help us illuminate
the
the way that rubies are born from these
metamorphic processes
where we're squeezing and heating and and transforming

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the host rock
to produce something
so vibrant, so elegant,
but yet still hidden in the earth. When
we dig through the rubble of the psyche,
it's it's not just to clear away debris.
We're we're mining for the gems that are
in there.
And
Ruby represents that gem that we can find

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amidst the pain, amidst the challenge, amidst the
baggage.
There there is
so much power that comes through Ruby,
and I I think it comes back to
this idea that,
we've got this
love that is not just an emotion or
a human experience, but the love that is
the glue that holds the universe together. It

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is the fuel that makes the cosmos tick.
It is the rhythm of everything.
There's love in that process too. And and
often,
it is the love we cultivate for ourselves
by learning to be gentler because we've been
through pain, that we can then turn around
and share with others. That that torch we've
lit to dig through our own dark tunnels,

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our own mine shafts, if you will, we
can double that light by just sharing it
with someone else. It doesn't take anything away
from us to hold the torch out and
let someone else light from it. And so
I get this
this expansion,
this,
like, magnification
of emotional strength and resilience and compassion

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through Ruby because it reminds me that once
I do the work, when I learn to
show up for myself simultaneously,
I've learned to show up for someone else,
and I can give them the same grace
and hold space for them just the same.
So I think it's this wonderful stone of
emotional fortitude,
and I I think it's a really timely
stone as well.
Nicholas, I just wanna say,

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like, thank you so much for saying this
because I think so often in the wellness
space, especially,
we are really taught to turn away from
or reject
our pain or the things that we have
gone through that are struggles, that are difficult,
that are uncomfortable.
And I love that

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you're framing this stone as one to help
us more lean into it
because there's a richness and a depth of
of character and of our personal journey and
of our story
that kind of lives there also. And and
it's really what makes us whole ass humans.
Right? Like, that is such a big piece

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of it. So I wanna say thank you
for saying that. And this is one of
the things I love so much about these
confabs is just getting to tap into the
wisdom that each of us holds about these
that
each of us holds about these stones and
and hear what our experience has been. So,
Adam, I would really love to hear a
little from you about your experience with this

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stone.
Yeah. You know, one of the things I
love working with is the chakras. It's a
basic energy system I find that it's, you
know, a really accessible one for everyone no
matter what level of spirituality they have.
And one thing I'm really committed to with
both my work with crystals and essential oils
is not
grouping them all together. Finding just like every

(28:35):
individual person has their own specialness,
each crystal in each essential oil has the
same as well.
So, obviously, when it comes to the base
chakra, we work with red crystals. And a
lot of the time we think base chakra,
it's all about grounding. We may go for
something like a red calcite or a red
jasper.
But, again, almost like Nicholas was talking about,
that's almost like just settle down and just

(28:56):
don't worry about it type of thing. Whereas
I think Ruby,
although some people love to work with it
for the heart chakra for its passion, and
I think that's definitely justified,
I do really like it for the base
chakra as well
because
the base chakra is about feeling safe and
secure. It's attached to our adrenal system,
our nervous system, and how we're able to

(29:18):
handle things. And we know, as we've just
been talking about, when we shy away from
things or when we ignore things, you know,
yes, we can grab a red Jasper and
go and sit on the lawn and pretend
everything's okay.
And that that's may may
be what we need to do on certain
days. But at the right time and in
the right place, sometimes we're like, right. If

(29:40):
I don't ever deal with this, this demon
is gonna keep on haunting me as well.
So I think Ruby is a really beautiful
one to empower you
to look at these things, to explore these
things. And we live in a world where
there is a lot of
chaos and a lot of doom and gloom
that is being projected to us a lot
of the time as well. So not only

(30:02):
our
our everyday
personal issues, but there's this other stuff as
well.
I find I I love that you started,
you know, and we talked about kings and
nobility and thrones. And I really love that
analogy for Ruby that it does empower you
to kind of
I'm there are things that I have control
over and things that I don't.

(30:23):
But I find that Ruby really empowers you
to
decide how you're going to deal
with what you do have control over
and maybe face it, not run away from
it. And those things that you don't have
influence over, like what is happening in other
parts of the world,
how you can empower yourself
not to be drawn into that as well.

(30:43):
So I think this is if you want
to feel that grounded and safe,
you know, safety really is a perception.
Yes. There are different dangers that come into
our life that could be physical threats, but
really how safe two people feel in the
same. I'm thinking of my partner. We've got
we we live out in the bush, and
it's all glass, and I love it. I

(31:05):
feel really safe and secure and surrounded by
nature. He's convinced that murderers are watching us
through the glass whenever we walk around kind
of thing. So I I think, yeah, Ruby
is a great one helping to empower you
to go, how can I choose and make
option,
make decisions
to actually feel empowered and safe in my
base chakra? So I think with base chakra

(31:26):
work, it's great.
Do it with meditations.
Get one of these small ones, pop it
in your crystal pocket or your coin pocket,
and and really allow yourself to be
create your own safety rather than try and
run away from danger. I think Ruby is
really powerful in that way.
I really like that. Thank you so much
for, yeah, kind of giving us that

(31:50):
that healthy boundary that it's okay to say
there are some days where this is all
I can handle, and so I'm gonna approach
this situation this way. But overall,
in the big picture of life, I know
that it's gonna take more than that. Like,
I think it's it's equally as important to
give ourselves permission
on the hard days to just sit outside
in the lawn with our red Jasper.

(32:11):
But, you know, then through that sort of
bit of nurturing,
we build ourselves up to where we go,
okay. Now I can deal with the big
thing. Now I can be the king fighting
the dragon or whatever it has to be,
you know, and and it's kind of like
we have to be able to get to
that point. So I really like that, Adam.
I like you. And I inadvertently gave gave
people permission as well to you need more

(32:32):
crystals. You can't just when your partner goes,
do you really need another crystal? Well, Adam
Barrelet said that we need all the different
crystals because they all do different things. So
there you go. Get shopping and ignore your
partner. There you go.
Kyle, what about yourself? How do you feel?
Well, Nicholas, you wanted to add something? I
I was just gonna say, can I get
that in writing, and does it also apply

(32:54):
to books and French horns?
I can say yes. The books French horns
are my specialty, but, yeah, why why not?
I'm feeling feeling noble and kingly as I
hold my big ruby today. So go ahead.
Get as many French horns as you like,
Nicholas. I'll send you over the documents later.
Perfect. Alright. You're here first. Nicholas just got
a free pass for all the French horns

(33:15):
he wants.
Yep.
Next con fab
con fab will be French horns all over
the back wall.
Yeah. It's already possible.
Kyle, we haven't heard too much from you
tonight. I know a little bit, but tell
us about your experience with Ruby. I always

(33:35):
love you always bring this, like, personal anecdote
into
our confabs that I think is so relatable
for people because, like, we've all had experiences
like that. So tell us a little bit
about your experience with Ruby.
Well, Ruby for me has been deeply, deeply
personal. So I've got a couple of ear
plug crystal plugs that are actually ruby.

(33:58):
I have lots of little pieces.
This sphere in particular
is one of my absolute favorites and I've
had it for about a decade now. And
it's one of my connectors. I've spoken about
this in the past. I have a twin
sister in spirit.
And this connection has allowed me to learn
to love myself, but
I wanna take it to another level when

(34:19):
it comes to Ruby. For me, and I
think we've all touched on it, it's about
being obsessed with yourself. And for me, don't
confuse obsession with vanity. Vanity can be, you
know,
futile.
Whereas obsession is constantly thinking about something
or someone. And if you are constantly thinking
about yourself,
you're actually benefiting yourself because you're thinking about

(34:42):
what you can do, which we've touched on.
Right?
I wrote all of my notes up and
I actually finished on this point. It's quite
an interesting thing that, like, I've got a
few pages and that was, like, the ending
point. And I love starting with it because
it actually feels really important. I think knowing
that
we're kind of oh, if you're obsessed with

(35:04):
yourself, you're vain. You're
like,
it's not about, like, how do I look
in the mirror? Am I pretty? Blah blah
blah. It's about looking at yourself in the
mirror and going, I look disheveled as all
hell, but I love myself.
I have slept like crap. So, of course,
I'm gonna look average. I'm gonna do what
I need to do so I can feel
better. Ruby for me is an empowerment of

(35:25):
the leonine.
Right? It is and we've talked about royalty
being in charge of your kingdom. Leos and
lions
are in charge of their kingdom. They know
when not to waste their energy. They will
sit. They'll chill by the water pool.
They'll watch all the kerfuffle happening. They'll look
at those little guinea fowl and they'll go,
you're not worth my time and energy. That's

(35:46):
not
for me. I was gonna say it's below
me, but it's, you know, it's not for
me. And it's
important that I conserve my energy and take
care of myself so I can go help
the antelope plate up. That's gonna take more
effort. That's gonna take more to do, and
that's gonna be a bigger kill, so I
need to make sure I conserve.
Right? Ruby helps us to do the big

(36:07):
job when we need to do the big
job,
but it also helps us to take care
of ourselves when we need to take care
of ourselves. And that's where, for me, it's
about obsessing
with you. I love myself and I know
I need to rest now. I love myself
and I know I need to go after
this now. I love myself
and I don't care what other people think
because they're not living my life in my

(36:28):
shoes with my thought processes and my pressures
and all of the things that I have
to deal with. They can only see it
from the outside in,
and they have no idea what has brought
me to this point. They have no idea
the conflicts and challenges and difficulties
and,
achievements
and amazing things that I've done. They don't
know all of these. They only see what

(36:49):
they see. And it's up to you to
go,
I know I've done this, this, and this.
I've dealt with this, this, and this. I've
achieved this, this, and this. Maybe I didn't
get that thing that I wanted. Maybe I
didn't do that. But this world doesn't let
everything just happen for you like that. This
world is pressurized.
Right? So it pushes us to become the
gems that we are meant to be.

(37:12):
I gotta tell you, next time I find
myself in, like, one of those swirling
chaotic situations,
I am going to think of the situation
you just described of the lion,
like, observing everything happening, and I'm gonna remind
myself, oh, those are just guinea fowl.
I don't need to be bothered by the
guinea fowl.

(37:33):
I know about that. It is honestly, if
you watch those documentaries and you see them
and then you see they're like,
what's the point? And I married a Leo,
so I
am obsessed with that energy. Like, it has
and he has taught me so so much
about
he is great at what he does, passionate.
And
the thing about Leos that are confused

(37:55):
is they have high expectations.
It's not that they are ego driven.
It's they have expectations of themselves so that
those expectations are projected onto everyone else. And
they think that everyone else should be doing
what they do. And that's where we need
to put that side to bed. No.

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Not everyone is a Leo. Not everyone can,
but you are your own Leo. You are
your own ruler in your kingdom. You are
the one
that needs to be focused entirely and obsessed
with your life and what you're doing so
that you can make the decisions, achieve the
goals, rid yourself of that which is no
longer serving you, and not waste your time

(38:36):
and energy. Right? Because who knows? Maybe in
a week or two, all of the young
male Leos that were pushed out of the
pride because they started to grow up are
gonna start to come and you're gonna deal
with all these new challenges. So conserving
and just doing what you need to within
your life will actually prepare you for new
unexpected
things that may come into your life, new

(38:57):
challenges.
But it's not that it's challenges, like, this
is the cyclical nature of things. This has
come around. I'm gonna deal with it. Push
it away. Happy days. I think empowering yourself
in that ruby way
is beautiful. And I think as we've mentioned,
the heart and the base, the physical body
and our emotional center coming together

(39:18):
creates action, creates
momentum,
makes things happen in a way that changes
our physical reality.
I think that combination of energy is really,
really important. And so it allows us to
feel good about our lives, have pleasure, have
fun,
but also be serious when we need to,
have those boundaries, be protecting of our

(39:41):
own self worth, our own energy, and our
own emotional needs too.
I I'm really interested to kinda compare notes
with you about this Leo energy, first of
all, Kyle, because, you know, I've got a
doctorate in Leo as well because I was
in a thirteen year relationship with someone who
had their sun, moon, and Mercury in Leo.
Very it very had had very high standards

(40:02):
and was very professional in work. But one
thing I found, you know, personally conflicting for
me is I'd get home
and they couldn't possibly lift another finger. And
and it's very Leo in that way of
conserving that energy,
for those things that they deem important other
things. And as in a Gemini where there's
always a hundred more things to do, I

(40:23):
was like, I couldn't understand why you can't
get off the couch and do things. But
it does make sense for us all to
work with Ruby to work out what is
worth our while because it's amazing how many
you know, we all get phone calls from
different companies these days. Like, they're like, have
you checked the the filter on your gas
heater? I'm like,
I've got bigger fish to fry right now

(40:44):
and that type of thing. And I'm I'm
thinking at the moment for someone who's had
a pretty big week just gone and feeling
quite adrenally fatigued at the moment.
You know, often
our adrenals become fatigued because we're trying to
be everything to everyone.
And maybe Ruby is a really nice one
for those that are feeling exhausted to kinda
go, you know, like Ashley loves your guinea

(41:04):
fowl analogy, I do too. Let's work out
what in our life is a guinea fowl,
what is an antelope,
and also what is an elephant? Like, what
is it too big for us to even
bother conquering that type of thing? And I
think Ruby could be really powerful in that
way
for giving us that knowledge of what what
we're gonna fuss about.
I absolutely love that. I think it totally

(41:26):
makes sense. It's like, is this for me?
Is it not for me? Is it worth
my energy? Is it not worth my energy?
And that I've had that thing as well
where it's like,
you're really good at laying on the couch,
and I wish I was as good as
laying on the couch as you were. And
after twenty years together, it's something that I'm
still learning because all of my fire Sagittariusness

(41:47):
is like, oh, dude. Think. Like, it's the
same sort of thing. So I totally get
it. But I I don't think of it
as like the house needs to be clean.
I think of it as like, when we
need to clean the house, we'll clean the
house.
Let's rest. We both work really hard. We
both have really intense work jobs.
Work jobs. Nice English. And we both are
allowed

(42:08):
to come home and rest, and we are
the ones that have to give ourselves permission,
which is absurd,
to do that.
Yeah. No. No. Right. The universe is now
there'll be an Aries who's just as fiery,
but also loves to lay on the couch
and, you know, will slowly start the day,
and I'm like, but there's so much. You
could've done in that hour, that would be.
So I'll learn my lesson one day. One

(42:29):
thing as we wrap up, I wanted to
ask you. I alluded to before that there
are stones like rubies that we find in,
you know, classical jewelry, maybe engagement rings or
you may have, you know, that type of
thing as well.
We often talk in the crystal world about,
you know, things you can do with your
crystals. Like, we cleanse our crystals. We program
our crystals and different things like that.
What have you have you had discussions with

(42:52):
people, customers, clients, and so on about what
they should maybe do with you know, should
their wedding ring be treated in a different
way to other jewelry or other crystals? Ashley,
you have, I believe.
I love this question so much because sometimes,
like you said earlier, Adam,
literally, the only ruby someone will own will

(43:13):
be in a piece of jewelry. And they'll
say, well, is that gonna, like, mess things
up? Is it the same as just working
with a stone? I do think it's a
little different
because I think we need to consider the
energy of the precious metal
that that stone is set in as
well. So is it set in gold? Is
it in platinum? Is it in silver? And

(43:34):
then what energy does that bring? So I
think for me, in general,
those precious metals tend to amplify.
They tend to act as conduits of energy.
But if you wanna work with ruby or
maybe emerald or sapphire or diamond
in a crystal grid, right, in the center
of your crystal grid, don't hesitate to pop

(43:54):
that engagement ring in there. But we also
need to consider the energy of
that metal that's coming in. So platinum, gonna
be super high energy.
For me, usually very spiritually aligned. For gold,
it's very vibrant. It's very lively, energetic,
has a lot of that solar quality to
it. And then for silver, we have that

(44:17):
lunar quality, that receptivity,
connected with intuition, love.
So just consider what that's bringing to it.
And then, also, depending on the specific piece
of jewelry,
consider maybe the symbolism. So if you are
using a wedding ring, an engagement ring, there's
more to it than just the stone and
just the metal that's involved. That is that

(44:37):
is a huge
important symbol of your love between you and
your partner, your commitment to one another.
So think of the energy that's bringing in
and whether or not that's appropriate to what
you're doing in your specific grid or crystal
work or whatever it is. But I see
no reason why we can't incorporate those things
into our practice, especially in a piece of

(44:58):
jewelry, like a simple act,
like
holding that piece of jewelry and saying an
intention that connects with that stone and letting
those precious metals sort of amplify that energy
and amplify that intention. I think it's a
really beautiful practice, but I'd love to hear
from everybody else too. What do you think
about this idea of bringing in some of

(45:19):
our jewelry into our crystal work?
I definitely think it's a
great way to make use of the tools
we've got in our toolbox.
I I've definitely had many
conversation with folks. I in my very first
book, the seven archival stones, the last gemstone
is diamond, and that's another one where we
just
you hardly ever find it in the crystal

(45:40):
healing market.
You gotta go out of your way to
find a diamond in matrix or tiny natural
diamond crystals. So you're gonna find it in
jewelry before you're gonna find it
almost anywhere else,
but that doesn't preclude us from being able
to work with it. And, in fact, there's
there's something to me
about diamond in particular

(46:01):
and
its kind of makeup and its kind of
structure that
has quite a lot of memory to it.
And I think we could
be a little bit more conscientious of of
cleansing our diamond jewelry.
And since we often find, you know, diamond
accents with other precious and semi precious gems,
if you've got a really nice ruby

(46:22):
and an engagement ring and it's flanked by
some teeny diamonds, give it a cleanse. But
but here's the trick.
It doesn't
necessarily have to be a chore because if
you're wearing that crystal
as a gemstone, set in jewelry all the
time, how often do you wash your hands?
What if
we set that focus, we connect to the
cleansing qualities of water? So as we're physically

(46:45):
cleaning ourselves, we're also
energetically cleaning ourselves and the stone. Just, you
know, also make sure to take care of
the the physical well-being of them. Don't let
it get too grimy. Like, give it a
proper cleaning. Take it in for an ultrasonic
bath if you need to. Like, go go
make your
beautiful things stay beautiful.

(47:06):
I think I'm proposing
to some people, you know, we renew lots
of people like to renew their vows each
year. Maybe around that same time, that's when
you get your diamond, you cleanse your diamond
and, you know,
do a bit of a ritual of letting
go of all the maybe the challenges the
relationships had in the last year and then
set your intentions. You know, this is the
heart one of the hardest stones in the

(47:27):
world. Set your intentions and your commitment for
another year type of thing. So make it
maybe an annual practice
of you do something with your partner. How
beautiful would it be if if you and
your partner were to charge your wedding rings
together every year as well and to bring
an extra bit of meaning to that crystal?
My husband and I kind of have done

(47:47):
that. Like, we basically
so I designed our rings. We picked the
stones that we wanted. He has black diamonds.
I have orange sapphire
with tanzanite.
We picked what we wanted to bring in.
They are made in white gold. I have
no diamonds because I don't want diamond energy

(48:07):
coming in because I've worn it before and
it hasn't been useful for me.
My husband has just stepped forward to show
off his ring with the black diamonds,
and you can see his energy is needing
to be a little bit more grounded and
more settled. He doesn't need to amplify that
fire or bring in that energy.
Nice as the Leo to get off the
couch for a second. I know. On his

(48:28):
one day off for me. That's very, very
generous. Very generous. See? They can evolve, and
they can do a little bit more.
And that choice for me
means I know what I'm bringing in every
day. I feel better about it. He feels
better about it. We have a little crystal
grid that was filled with crystals from our
wedding day.
We connect to it. I connect to it

(48:48):
very regularly. We connect to it all the
time, and I think it's a really, really
beautiful way of updating yourself. Pick what you
feel drawn to. If Ruby is going to
ignite that passion, bring it in.
Yeah. I I and one final little thing,
I often get into conversations when people are
talking about engagement of wedding rings. You know,
diamonds, funnily enough, are a bit like cars.

(49:09):
As soon as you take it out of
the lot, it drops in value. I love
that you've got tanzanite, and when I need
to choose an engagement or a wedding ring,
you know,
tendinites will only go up in value over
time. They don't drop like a a
diamond. So, yeah,
you didn't think you'd get investment advice. You
didn't think you'd hear about French horns. You

(49:29):
didn't think we'd, you know, bash Leos all
in this episode, but we've done it all
today. So thank you very much for joining
us on this confab. We'll be back next
week to confab
even on another amazing crystal and gift from
mother earth. Until then, go cleanse your joy,
and we'll see you next week. Lesson day.

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