November 11, 2025 • 24 mins
Lorenz Kraus is awaiting trial in Albany, New York, for killing his parents and keeping their Social Security checks.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hudson River Radio dot Com.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Your dad likes us. I'm Linda Zimmerman.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
I'm Brian Harrowitz and this is.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Murder in the Hudson Valley on Hudson River Radio dot
Com and welcome everyone. And this actually is a murder
in the Hudson Valley tonight. I know we travel far
and wide sometimes, but back in the Hudson Valley for
this one. How you doing, Brian?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
And I'm hanging in there. Yeah, I don't. This is
another ambush. I don't know what's coming tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
So okay, okay, Yes, the title I told you is
being a good son and uh I'm guessing.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well, it depends on your perspective. He thinks he.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Wants okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
So let's just jump in. This is a comparatively recent one.
August of twenty seven ten France and Terraceia Kraus elderly
couple living on six Crestwood Court in Albany. They had
some health issues, nothing terrible, but they were old. Things happen,
(01:22):
but for years no one saw them. They were very
friendly and then they just weren't seen. They were not
seen for eight years. I think maybe someone should have
in that time made a call to the police for.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
A maybe just go to knock on the door with
a plate.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Of cookies something something. But guess what, their social Security
checks were still being cashed. Okay, So in September of
twenty twenty five, eight years leg a large team of
(02:02):
law enforcement goes to the house. Not so much for
the welfare of the Crouses, but this was under the
Social Security financial crimes auspices. Okay, so maybe the Crouses
are alive, maybe they're not, but we need to find
out who's cashing their checks. That will send in a
(02:25):
swat team.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
It's the money, always follow the money.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
That's it. That's it. So on Wednesday, the house is empty.
On Wednesday, the twenty fourth of September, for some reason,
they brought an excavation team. I guess they had some
suspicions or maybe there was some depressions in the ground
(02:51):
or whatever, and they found a set of remains in
the backyard. The next day, Thursday, the twenty fifth, they
found another set. Albany Police Chief Brendan Cox believed they
were the Crouses, and as we are recording this now
a few weeks later, it's pending formal I identification. I
(03:16):
think we're pretty sure.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, we're at the end of October, so something changes,
just so listeners know where we are. By the time
this post, it's going to be even a few more weeks.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Okay. So yeah, So their son, Lorenz had been collecting
the checks and he lived alone in an apartment at
Hoosick Street. And you know, normally people say, oh, I'm
(03:47):
so surprised. You know, he just seemed like such a
nice guy. Now, neighbors said they avoided him like the plague,
and among things, they said, he really gave off a
weird vibe. Vibe. Okay, why don't we stop here and
(04:07):
then we will come back and talk a little more
about who the Crouses were. This is Hudson River Radio
dot com.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Hudson Riverradio dot com.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
We are back. We have two sets of remains in
a backyard and the Sun, who has been collecting checks.
Do we see a mystery here? Does it seem rather.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Cut and dr seems rather cut and dry. And you
know what, I think the Sun figured out the formula.
Because if you're a jerk, no one's going to want
to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
That's right, and you can get away with anything.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, who's gonna want to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
At least for eight years. Okay, So who was Lorenz? Well,
he had some pretty extremist views. I was quite surprised
to find out he was on the twenty twenty New
Hampshire presidential ballot as a Democrat. He had some rather
(05:14):
controversial views. He wanted to replace all state and federal
governments with a board of trustees. And he was running
for president so he could dissolve the presidency because he
wanted to get the presidency out of the hands of
(05:35):
and I quote the deep state, British agents, Rhodes scholars,
and Jews. There's an eclectic group it is. I don't
even know what to say about that. Rhodes Scholars.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, I don't know if he heard about the American
Revolution that you know, we're not part of England anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
And and you know the wanted to get it out
of the hands of the Jews. This was quite evident,
Uh if you went to his campaign website, because the
name of his website was Banjews dot com.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Wow. All right, well, and then the next question is
which internet provider allowed that to.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Be I have no idea, and which which Internet provider
allowed all the neo Nazi websites he belonged to, and
this is all as a democrat, supposedly he One of
his postings on one of these sites was happy birthday,
(06:48):
Angel Hitler, Angel Hitler. Yes, and he also hated Freemasons,
So I think he's an equal opportunity hater here. Clearly
not in his right mind, I would know, definitely not. Okay,
(07:12):
So that's some of Lorenz the good Son. There's more, well,
oh yeah, there's more, But let me talk a little
bit about Franz and Terasia. Franz had a horrible time
during World War Two. He was born in Yugoslavia and
(07:33):
spent several years in a Soviet prison camp. Oh yes, yeah.
If you don't understand what went on in Soviet prison camps,
spend a few minutes and look that up. Terasia was
born in Germany, which of course was not a picnic
during World War two either, so I don't even know
(07:54):
what horrors she went through. And in the nineteen fifths
they both came to the United States and got jobs
and started a family. So what was wrong with Franz, Well,
he was old and he was almost deaf. Okay, happens
(08:16):
to a lot of people. Terrasia had recently before she
went missing, told her son that she had fallen crossing
wolf Road. I know wolf Road very well, used to
do comic book conventions off of wolf Roadka. She had
(08:37):
fallen off her fallen on her face and it was
badly bruised, and you know, this upset her. Lorenz also
pointed out that she had stopped using turn signals while driving. Again,
a lot of people have trouble driving when they're elderly.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, and some people, Lawrence would probably agree, that's nobody's
business where you're going, So why use a turn signal?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Okay, that's one. That's one approach. There was also a
history of Alzheimer's in the family, but no one said
either parent had that. And then there had been a
terrible incident back in nineteen eighty eight. His sister Rosa
had died of cancer when he was sixteen, and that
(09:28):
had haunted him, of course, watching your sister die a
horrible death. So these are all things that were percolating
in his rather disturbed mind. Now. Lorenz said that he
had been valedictorian when he graduated from Sienna College, which
(09:48):
is in the Albany area. Only Sienna said, oh, we
don't have valedictorians, okay, okay, So he made that up
a political science degree. Then he went on for a
master's of business at RPI Rensalaer Polytechnic Institute. So he
(10:10):
had some brains, you know, Yeah, they.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Just weren't all the synapses weren't all lined up the.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Way they right, right? So what did he do with
his master's in business administration and his BA in political science. Well,
he sold windows for a while, but he lost that
job because he disliked pressuring people. Murdering them maybe, but
(10:39):
he didn't like pressuring them making them buy things. Okay.
So comes the big day, that second day in September
when the team of law enforcement was excavating the second body. Lorenz.
Did he run? Did he hide? No? He decided to
(11:02):
go to WRGB, which was a CBS news television station
in Albany, and he told newsman Greg Floyd that he
would tell him everything. I will talk to you if
I can talk about my political views. Okay, So it
(11:23):
was going to tell him everything that happened, just so
long as he could get his hate filled rants in there.
But let me let me read you that you can
look this up. It is startling to watch the video.
This this guy's mind, the way it works or doesn't work. Okay,
(11:46):
So the interviewer says, did one parent, your mom or
your dad, one more than the other ask you to
take their lives? They didn't explicitly say that, but they
made it clear that they were going downhill. What actually
happened when your parents died? Did they know what was
(12:08):
happening to them? Yeah? They knew it was at your hand. Yes,
no one else. He's looking at him.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Like, oh, go else with me?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah, yeah, what's wrong with you? So they realized what
you were doing to them as it happened. Yes, they
knew that this was it for them, that they were
perishing at your hand. Yes, it was so quick. At
this point, he throws his hands up like it was nothing.
(12:38):
It was so quick, just like that. Okay again, don't
you get it? How did you do it? I can't
talk about that. Well, you just told us it was
at your hand. Were drugs involved? No? No, suffocation. You
suffocated them. You suffocated, did your parents? Yeah? That was
(13:03):
the best way to take their lives through suffocation. Basically,
which parent did you suffocate? First my father like like,
who else would it be? Yeah? And how this is
heart wrenching. After he died, my mother put her head
(13:26):
on his chest and she was there for a few
hours and then I finished her. And as he was
killing the both of them, he told them go find Rosa.
That was there girl who the daughter who had died.
(13:46):
So he killed the father with his bare hands and
then used a rope on his mother. That's not quick, No,
that's a brutal, horrible.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Deliberate And yeah, well those face to face actions too
that we've talked about, which is just ten steps past,
you know, sneaking up behind somebody when you're face to
face with them.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
He then kept their bodies in the house for several
days until he buried them in the backyard, and he
planted a peach tree by his mother. I don't know
if that was she liked peaches or he was just
trying to cover up the hole he had just dug
for the two bodies. So hm, what did the police do? Well?
(14:41):
When Lorenz went out to the television station parking lot,
there were a few cops waiting for him and he
was arrested. So why don't we take our second break
before we see what happens Hudson River Radio.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
This is Hudson River Radio dot com.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
We are back to the sick, twisted case case of
Lorenz Krause. Amazing, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
And he literally got his fifteen minutes of fame that
so many of them want. He got to be on
TV and talk about it and take credit for what
he did.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yes, and he wanted another fifteen minutes of fame because
even after all that, he'd agreed to a second interview
with Greg Floyd, which is astonishing. However, as he was
starting to answer questions, a public defender was nearby and
(15:48):
overheard and said, oh no, no, no, no, he has
no legal representation. You are stopping this now, keep your
mouth shut. So he didn't get to finish the second interview,
but he claimed it was they were mercy killings. He
was saving them from their decline. But this is very telling.
(16:08):
What was your relationship with your parents? Like I wouldn't
characterize it as loving, Okay, so they didn't love you,
You didn't love them, but you were doing this for
their sake. Huh. He went into this long thing about
(16:31):
aging social crisis and that we need a different solution
to aging, and he did it out of a sense
of duty, which superseded the law. Quote. I did the
right thing for them based on the situation. I did
my duty to them as a son. Well, isn't your
(16:53):
duty to care for them, not murder them?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I feel I think so.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, you know, get somebody to help your parents if
you can't do it. You know, maybe your mother needed
a wheelchair, maybe your father needed hearing aids, or you know,
some other put them into an assisted living home. Murder
(17:19):
is uh. Yeah. There was no mention about them being
in pain or suffering, just they were old and needed help.
And this is what he thought was the best thing
after surviving a Soviet prison camp in World War II Germany.
Their own son murders them when they're old and need help.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
So he absolutely does not think what he did was wrong,
and he added, well, I never killed anyone else. Well,
hooray for you. Uh, you know what's all the fuss about.
I only killed my parents and go around killing other people?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Wow? Wow.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
And yes, he collected all the social security but claims
he gave most of it away. I didn't play with
the money. I didn't enrich myself but did he have
any kind of a job, not that I could find.
Who was paying for his rent at his apartment, his rent.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
The websites, his campaign, all that.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Not easy, not cheap running for president. Yeah. So yes,
I illegally collected both social Security for eight years, but
I didn't really benefit from it other than benefit.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I completely benefited from right.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yes, So he was in court on September twenty ninth.
You just won't leave. He's in court, smiling and friendly
and happy. You'd think he was at a birthday party
or some great event. He was charged with two counts
of murder and concealing a corpse. So we're probably what
(19:18):
a year away from the trial. We will pick this
up and follow it. And I normally do cases that
have been concluded. But I sat there so stunned, watching
the interviews and reading about this. I thought it was
worth uh covering it now.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Well, so I gut feeling that this is going to
be one of those cases where the defense attorney sends
you over the edge because they're going to shoot for
some technical problem with procedure. It's going to be mental illness,
it's going to be something to try to get him
off the hook.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Oh, yes, I'm sure they will try their hardest.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Which is their job. That's what they're supposed to do.
So we can't forget that.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Oh, I can forget that.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I don't know how he's I don't he's not going
to get off the hook. I mean that would be
mind blowing. So what happens, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
It's not the It wouldn't be the first time people
got off the hook or with a light sense. So
you know, what does everybody think? Was it a mercy killing?
Or where his parents a bird and he didn't love them?
He killed them and kept their money.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I go with U, B it doesn't matter. He still
did it.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Oh, I know, I know, yeah, but but it does
I have to bring it does bring up euthanasia, you know,
which shouldn't be by the hands of your son strangling
on a whim. Yeah, but truly, life can be unbearable pain,
suffering with absolutely no hope of getting better. Should you
(20:57):
be given a choice, I mean, there are worse things
than dying, and I've known people who were suffering so much.
Just I just want it to be over. Should you
have a chot? What do you think of euthanasia?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
It's a tough one. It's a tough because I've seen,
you know, my days as a paramedic going to people's
homes and seeing things. You know. I think hospice is
underutilized because they are the experts at making people comfortable
at the end of life, and people tend to not
call them as early as they should. They're literally waiting
(21:34):
till the last week or a couple of days when
their service should be used for months ahead of time,
like Jimmy Carter did. Jimmy Carter was on it, and
you know, it's generally a six month block and then
it gets renewed for another six months, and you know,
there's a whole procedure. But yeah, I think if their
type of services were used earlier as they should be,
(21:55):
people would not be suffering as much as they do now.
So I kind of think that's the first step.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, it's tough. I mean, I've you know, I've been
through some really bad medical things where it's like, oh,
I can't go on like that, you know, but you
have some hope. I had hope of.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Getting better side, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
If I didn't, I would probably want that option. But
you know, again, not by your son strangling you and
keeping your social security. I think that's right, but it does,
it does bring that up. And they didn't see they again,
I didn't see anything about you know, they didn't have
(22:41):
cancer or some horrible disease and pains suffering. They were old,
they needed they needed help. They couldn't really care for themselves.
That doesn't mean they should have been murdered, right, So yeah,
we will watch this crazy person and again check it out.
(23:03):
Check out his if you can stomach it's it's stunning
to watch this guy. Just wow, I did the right thing.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
There's no question that's crazy. Yeah. How many votes did
he get?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I don't know. I should check that out the New Hampshire.
But how the hell did he get on the New
Hampshire ballot as a Democrat?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
And anybody who voted for him. We would like to
talk to those people as well.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yes, yes, we absolutely would.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I'm sure the police would like to also, But that's
a whole another whole other thing.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, but come on, he didn't kill anybody else. I mean,
let's cut him some slack. Wow. All right, Well, that's
more than enough crazy for one episode.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
That is, and it's not even over yet.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
No, no, so everybody pay attention, watch those videos, and
let us pray that some wiley defense attorney doesn't pull
some legal shenanigans to get him off the hook. At
the very least, he won't escape the social security crimes thing.
(24:18):
He'll at least be in prison for stealing social security
like al Capone. We you know, we can't get them
on all the murders and other crimes, but we can
get them for tax evasion. So crazy don't mess with
the federal government's money, all right. So that is an
(24:39):
ongoing case. We will keep an eye on, and we
will see you all back murder on the Hudson Valley.
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
Your dad likes us. I'm Linda Zimmerman.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
I'm Brian Harrowitz and this is.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Murder in the Hudson Valley on Hudson River Radio dot
Com and welcome everyone. And this actually is a murder
in the Hudson Valley tonight. I know we travel far
and wide sometimes, but back in the Hudson Valley for
this one. How you doing, Brian?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
And I'm hanging in there. Yeah, I don't. This is
another ambush. I don't know what's coming tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
So okay, okay, Yes, the title I told you is
being a good son and uh I'm guessing.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well, it depends on your perspective. He thinks he.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Wants okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
So let's just jump in. This is a comparatively recent one.
August of twenty seven ten France and Terraceia Kraus elderly
couple living on six Crestwood Court in Albany. They had
some health issues, nothing terrible, but they were old. Things happen,
(01:22):
but for years no one saw them. They were very
friendly and then they just weren't seen. They were not
seen for eight years. I think maybe someone should have
in that time made a call to the police for.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
A maybe just go to knock on the door with
a plate.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Of cookies something something. But guess what, their social Security
checks were still being cashed. Okay, So in September of
twenty twenty five, eight years leg a large team of
(02:02):
law enforcement goes to the house. Not so much for
the welfare of the Crouses, but this was under the
Social Security financial crimes auspices. Okay, so maybe the Crouses
are alive, maybe they're not, but we need to find
out who's cashing their checks. That will send in a
(02:25):
swat team.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
It's the money, always follow the money.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
That's it. That's it. So on Wednesday, the house is empty.
On Wednesday, the twenty fourth of September, for some reason,
they brought an excavation team. I guess they had some
suspicions or maybe there was some depressions in the ground
(02:51):
or whatever, and they found a set of remains in
the backyard. The next day, Thursday, the twenty fifth, they
found another set. Albany Police Chief Brendan Cox believed they
were the Crouses, and as we are recording this now
a few weeks later, it's pending formal I identification. I
(03:16):
think we're pretty sure.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, we're at the end of October, so something changes,
just so listeners know where we are. By the time
this post, it's going to be even a few more weeks.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Okay. So yeah, So their son, Lorenz had been collecting
the checks and he lived alone in an apartment at
Hoosick Street. And you know, normally people say, oh, I'm
(03:47):
so surprised. You know, he just seemed like such a
nice guy. Now, neighbors said they avoided him like the plague,
and among things, they said, he really gave off a
weird vibe. Vibe. Okay, why don't we stop here and
(04:07):
then we will come back and talk a little more
about who the Crouses were. This is Hudson River Radio
dot com.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Hudson Riverradio dot com.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
We are back. We have two sets of remains in
a backyard and the Sun, who has been collecting checks.
Do we see a mystery here? Does it seem rather.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Cut and dr seems rather cut and dry. And you
know what, I think the Sun figured out the formula.
Because if you're a jerk, no one's going to want
to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
That's right, and you can get away with anything.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, who's gonna want to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
At least for eight years. Okay, So who was Lorenz? Well,
he had some pretty extremist views. I was quite surprised
to find out he was on the twenty twenty New
Hampshire presidential ballot as a Democrat. He had some rather
(05:14):
controversial views. He wanted to replace all state and federal
governments with a board of trustees. And he was running
for president so he could dissolve the presidency because he
wanted to get the presidency out of the hands of
(05:35):
and I quote the deep state, British agents, Rhodes scholars,
and Jews. There's an eclectic group it is. I don't
even know what to say about that. Rhodes Scholars.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, I don't know if he heard about the American
Revolution that you know, we're not part of England anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
And and you know the wanted to get it out
of the hands of the Jews. This was quite evident,
Uh if you went to his campaign website, because the
name of his website was Banjews dot com.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Wow. All right, well, and then the next question is
which internet provider allowed that to.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Be I have no idea, and which which Internet provider
allowed all the neo Nazi websites he belonged to, and
this is all as a democrat, supposedly he One of
his postings on one of these sites was happy birthday,
(06:48):
Angel Hitler, Angel Hitler. Yes, and he also hated Freemasons,
So I think he's an equal opportunity hater here. Clearly
not in his right mind, I would know, definitely not. Okay,
(07:12):
So that's some of Lorenz the good Son. There's more, well,
oh yeah, there's more, But let me talk a little
bit about Franz and Terasia. Franz had a horrible time
during World War Two. He was born in Yugoslavia and
(07:33):
spent several years in a Soviet prison camp. Oh yes, yeah.
If you don't understand what went on in Soviet prison camps,
spend a few minutes and look that up. Terasia was
born in Germany, which of course was not a picnic
during World War two either, so I don't even know
(07:54):
what horrors she went through. And in the nineteen fifths
they both came to the United States and got jobs
and started a family. So what was wrong with Franz, Well,
he was old and he was almost deaf. Okay, happens
(08:16):
to a lot of people. Terrasia had recently before she
went missing, told her son that she had fallen crossing
wolf Road. I know wolf Road very well, used to
do comic book conventions off of wolf Roadka. She had
(08:37):
fallen off her fallen on her face and it was
badly bruised, and you know, this upset her. Lorenz also
pointed out that she had stopped using turn signals while driving. Again,
a lot of people have trouble driving when they're elderly.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, and some people, Lawrence would probably agree, that's nobody's
business where you're going, So why use a turn signal?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Okay, that's one. That's one approach. There was also a
history of Alzheimer's in the family, but no one said
either parent had that. And then there had been a
terrible incident back in nineteen eighty eight. His sister Rosa
had died of cancer when he was sixteen, and that
(09:28):
had haunted him, of course, watching your sister die a
horrible death. So these are all things that were percolating
in his rather disturbed mind. Now. Lorenz said that he
had been valedictorian when he graduated from Sienna College, which
(09:48):
is in the Albany area. Only Sienna said, oh, we
don't have valedictorians, okay, okay, So he made that up
a political science degree. Then he went on for a
master's of business at RPI Rensalaer Polytechnic Institute. So he
(10:10):
had some brains, you know, Yeah, they.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Just weren't all the synapses weren't all lined up the.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Way they right, right? So what did he do with
his master's in business administration and his BA in political science. Well,
he sold windows for a while, but he lost that
job because he disliked pressuring people. Murdering them maybe, but
(10:39):
he didn't like pressuring them making them buy things. Okay.
So comes the big day, that second day in September
when the team of law enforcement was excavating the second body. Lorenz.
Did he run? Did he hide? No? He decided to
(11:02):
go to WRGB, which was a CBS news television station
in Albany, and he told newsman Greg Floyd that he
would tell him everything. I will talk to you if
I can talk about my political views. Okay, So it
(11:23):
was going to tell him everything that happened, just so
long as he could get his hate filled rants in there.
But let me let me read you that you can
look this up. It is startling to watch the video.
This this guy's mind, the way it works or doesn't work. Okay,
(11:46):
So the interviewer says, did one parent, your mom or
your dad, one more than the other ask you to
take their lives? They didn't explicitly say that, but they
made it clear that they were going downhill. What actually
happened when your parents died? Did they know what was
(12:08):
happening to them? Yeah? They knew it was at your hand. Yes,
no one else. He's looking at him.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Like, oh, go else with me?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah, yeah, what's wrong with you? So they realized what
you were doing to them as it happened. Yes, they
knew that this was it for them, that they were
perishing at your hand. Yes, it was so quick. At
this point, he throws his hands up like it was nothing.
(12:38):
It was so quick, just like that. Okay again, don't
you get it? How did you do it? I can't
talk about that. Well, you just told us it was
at your hand. Were drugs involved? No? No, suffocation. You
suffocated them. You suffocated, did your parents? Yeah? That was
(13:03):
the best way to take their lives through suffocation. Basically,
which parent did you suffocate? First my father like like,
who else would it be? Yeah? And how this is
heart wrenching. After he died, my mother put her head
(13:26):
on his chest and she was there for a few
hours and then I finished her. And as he was
killing the both of them, he told them go find Rosa.
That was there girl who the daughter who had died.
(13:46):
So he killed the father with his bare hands and
then used a rope on his mother. That's not quick, No,
that's a brutal, horrible.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Deliberate And yeah, well those face to face actions too
that we've talked about, which is just ten steps past,
you know, sneaking up behind somebody when you're face to
face with them.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
He then kept their bodies in the house for several
days until he buried them in the backyard, and he
planted a peach tree by his mother. I don't know
if that was she liked peaches or he was just
trying to cover up the hole he had just dug
for the two bodies. So hm, what did the police do? Well?
(14:41):
When Lorenz went out to the television station parking lot,
there were a few cops waiting for him and he
was arrested. So why don't we take our second break
before we see what happens Hudson River Radio.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
This is Hudson River Radio dot com.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
We are back to the sick, twisted case case of
Lorenz Krause. Amazing, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
And he literally got his fifteen minutes of fame that
so many of them want. He got to be on
TV and talk about it and take credit for what
he did.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yes, and he wanted another fifteen minutes of fame because
even after all that, he'd agreed to a second interview
with Greg Floyd, which is astonishing. However, as he was
starting to answer questions, a public defender was nearby and
(15:48):
overheard and said, oh no, no, no, no, he has
no legal representation. You are stopping this now, keep your
mouth shut. So he didn't get to finish the second interview,
but he claimed it was they were mercy killings. He
was saving them from their decline. But this is very telling.
(16:08):
What was your relationship with your parents? Like I wouldn't
characterize it as loving, Okay, so they didn't love you,
You didn't love them, but you were doing this for
their sake. Huh. He went into this long thing about
(16:31):
aging social crisis and that we need a different solution
to aging, and he did it out of a sense
of duty, which superseded the law. Quote. I did the
right thing for them based on the situation. I did
my duty to them as a son. Well, isn't your
(16:53):
duty to care for them, not murder them?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I feel I think so.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, you know, get somebody to help your parents if
you can't do it. You know, maybe your mother needed
a wheelchair, maybe your father needed hearing aids, or you know,
some other put them into an assisted living home. Murder
(17:19):
is uh. Yeah. There was no mention about them being
in pain or suffering, just they were old and needed help.
And this is what he thought was the best thing
after surviving a Soviet prison camp in World War II Germany.
Their own son murders them when they're old and need help.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
So he absolutely does not think what he did was wrong,
and he added, well, I never killed anyone else. Well,
hooray for you. Uh, you know what's all the fuss about.
I only killed my parents and go around killing other people?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Wow? Wow.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
And yes, he collected all the social security but claims
he gave most of it away. I didn't play with
the money. I didn't enrich myself but did he have
any kind of a job, not that I could find.
Who was paying for his rent at his apartment, his rent.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
The websites, his campaign, all that.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Not easy, not cheap running for president. Yeah. So yes,
I illegally collected both social Security for eight years, but
I didn't really benefit from it other than benefit.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I completely benefited from right.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yes, So he was in court on September twenty ninth.
You just won't leave. He's in court, smiling and friendly
and happy. You'd think he was at a birthday party
or some great event. He was charged with two counts
of murder and concealing a corpse. So we're probably what
(19:18):
a year away from the trial. We will pick this
up and follow it. And I normally do cases that
have been concluded. But I sat there so stunned, watching
the interviews and reading about this. I thought it was
worth uh covering it now.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Well, so I gut feeling that this is going to
be one of those cases where the defense attorney sends
you over the edge because they're going to shoot for
some technical problem with procedure. It's going to be mental illness,
it's going to be something to try to get him
off the hook.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Oh, yes, I'm sure they will try their hardest.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Which is their job. That's what they're supposed to do.
So we can't forget that.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Oh, I can forget that.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I don't know how he's I don't he's not going
to get off the hook. I mean that would be
mind blowing. So what happens, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
It's not the It wouldn't be the first time people
got off the hook or with a light sense. So
you know, what does everybody think? Was it a mercy killing?
Or where his parents a bird and he didn't love them?
He killed them and kept their money.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I go with U, B it doesn't matter. He still
did it.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Oh, I know, I know, yeah, but but it does
I have to bring it does bring up euthanasia, you know,
which shouldn't be by the hands of your son strangling
on a whim. Yeah, but truly, life can be unbearable pain,
suffering with absolutely no hope of getting better. Should you
(20:57):
be given a choice, I mean, there are worse things
than dying, and I've known people who were suffering so much.
Just I just want it to be over. Should you
have a chot? What do you think of euthanasia?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
It's a tough one. It's a tough because I've seen,
you know, my days as a paramedic going to people's
homes and seeing things. You know. I think hospice is
underutilized because they are the experts at making people comfortable
at the end of life, and people tend to not
call them as early as they should. They're literally waiting
(21:34):
till the last week or a couple of days when
their service should be used for months ahead of time,
like Jimmy Carter did. Jimmy Carter was on it, and
you know, it's generally a six month block and then
it gets renewed for another six months, and you know,
there's a whole procedure. But yeah, I think if their
type of services were used earlier as they should be,
(21:55):
people would not be suffering as much as they do now.
So I kind of think that's the first step.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, it's tough. I mean, I've you know, I've been
through some really bad medical things where it's like, oh,
I can't go on like that, you know, but you
have some hope. I had hope of.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Getting better side, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
If I didn't, I would probably want that option. But
you know, again, not by your son strangling you and
keeping your social security. I think that's right, but it does,
it does bring that up. And they didn't see they again,
I didn't see anything about you know, they didn't have
(22:41):
cancer or some horrible disease and pains suffering. They were old,
they needed they needed help. They couldn't really care for themselves.
That doesn't mean they should have been murdered, right, So yeah,
we will watch this crazy person and again check it out.
(23:03):
Check out his if you can stomach it's it's stunning
to watch this guy. Just wow, I did the right thing.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
There's no question that's crazy. Yeah. How many votes did
he get?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I don't know. I should check that out the New Hampshire.
But how the hell did he get on the New
Hampshire ballot as a Democrat?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
And anybody who voted for him. We would like to
talk to those people as well.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yes, yes, we absolutely would.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I'm sure the police would like to also, But that's
a whole another whole other thing.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, but come on, he didn't kill anybody else. I mean,
let's cut him some slack. Wow. All right, Well, that's
more than enough crazy for one episode.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
That is, and it's not even over yet.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
No, no, so everybody pay attention, watch those videos, and
let us pray that some wiley defense attorney doesn't pull
some legal shenanigans to get him off the hook. At
the very least, he won't escape the social security crimes thing.
(24:18):
He'll at least be in prison for stealing social security
like al Capone. We you know, we can't get them
on all the murders and other crimes, but we can
get them for tax evasion. So crazy don't mess with
the federal government's money, all right. So that is an
(24:39):
ongoing case. We will keep an eye on, and we
will see you all back murder on the Hudson Valley.
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