Episode 84: "My WorlD With U ft. WurlD"

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Welcome everyone to know how thepodcast in preparing episode 84.
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I'm here with Bow. Wow, super Lord, and our special
guest sir. The blue-haired warrior talk
about, what's up family, what up, the contagious, one
contagious, one is love, is contagious, no comment, continue
hunting you? No, no way, no pandemic.

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So you can't just that. Somebody can t, actually, it was
gracious gracious enough to share his Is, you know, I'm
loving. I'm loving with us right?
Loving the references, please gentlemen world everything.
Thanks for having me brother. Of course man we're coming now.
You feeling good? Chill man.
Like I'm enjoying the quiet times right now for me

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transition in before the next show.
The next you know traveling. So I'm just enjoying the quiet
times. Yeah, lovely.
How long are you in New York fora few more days?
Okay. Yeah, that's what's been the
highlight of your trip so far highlight.
Honestly just connecting with people London was amazing.

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Yeah, London was the London was amazing.
Central Park was amazing. Just connecting with people
honestly. Like for me I had a performance
at Central Park with everyday people summer States, like he's
a summer stage amazing. Amazing time.
Filming the most. You know what the most rewarding

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part was that I had to perform to mostly people that don't know
who I am. Yeah, let's say like, even
people may have Had one or two songs, but it was a first
introduction to introduction to a lot of people and how to
perform at, I didn't have to depend on getting this thing
back. So I was really up there to

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perform and just really just just connect in the most natural
form. It was just a beautiful
experience. For me it's great you played a
lot of old stuff. You played some new stuff is a
nice healthy balance. Yeah thanks I think that's great
because obviously you're a greatwriter.
I don't see we don't know of your work.
With other artists. I think it's always great when
you perform some of them as well.

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And I think the way the sound ismoving out of the consonant,
you're obviously going to be me and new fans when all the show.
So that was absolutely see that and you explained it that way
where you connect the when a newgroup of people, absolutely.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Speaking of writing, what are some of the earlier?
Some of the earlier work, you'vedone that that people that might
not know about then. You know what I was working with

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Mario's writing songs from Mario.
Yeah. Small feet.
I was working with b.o.b., I waswriting Hooks and working with
him and his, he had a no genre label the time.
Scottie ATL London, Jay and I was, this is what I was used to
live in ATL. This was before show you off,
right and show you. I've just switched everything

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for me as far as like, getting me closer back to the African
Community and that really redirected my My path in a way
to a beautiful place, where I'm happy to feel closer.
Because, prior to that, I was just, I was an eight-year-old
boy. Like, literally, I mean, I'm

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just so grateful. And it feels like it's still
just beginning because it's justso much more in a way.
Honestly. I hope I wish people can
actually come behind the scene and see scenes and see what's
really coming. This is the best the best.
You just still yet to come? Do you want how long do you live
in Atlanta? I lived there for like almost
17. Is there was sick?

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I went to college there, too. Yeah, I was about to say, you're
just a nice. Cool.
Yeah, I wanted you're just a to like, yeah.
So you started High School. You'd like, Nigeria started high
school and TL and then. So, how would you describe that
transition? Because obviously, we're talking
about music growing out. The car out the continent.
You have the sound. You were listening to when
you're in Nigeria, you move overat night.
Atlanta is a whole different vibe.

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I only down however, closer, youknow, Community from Atlanta to
Lagos and the other cities, but what was transition like
musically for you? I didn't start making music to,
I lived in Atlanta. So for me compared to a lot of
my peers that I started in Atlanta.
Yeah but I had a very strong African background childhood

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that never changed. Never went away.
People meet me. Like you, I speak to you about
more than a lot of people write,I speak pidgin more than a lot
of people, but because I lived abroad, like, you know, you
still get to mix a lot of their,the, the tonalities and just
action. But for me, Musically, I started
in the learner and transitioningback fusing my music without

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food beats. And it comes natural because I
have a strong Nigerian African background that never the never
went away. It makes people like your, why
does it sound Merkin still African and the same time?
Similarly is because I'm really being myself.
I'm not trying to be anything that I'm not understand the

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communication being a. Nigerian I'm not trying to
reconnect Act. I under un right.
Oh my friends, we speak as we speak.
So I understand the mindset and the way we think, the way we
move that communication is really music at the end of the
day. That's where were you born?
I was born in Lagos said, when IJ what area I was born in Russia

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music. No.
See I want to take K Street Credibility because I was just a
kid, right? We moved out.
But that was where I was born. God.
Yeah. So there are a lot of moves
because now, obviously, as a musical Journey, You said it
started. Later my question now, because
we get a lot of people listeningto the drama and now we you

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listening to Africa's, you couldbe Nigeria and not necessarily
since the Nigerian music in Nigeria, when I was younger, I
grew up and like us as well and it's like, yes, I was listening
to music by was also very into hip-hop while in Nigeria and
I'll keep up with that saying. What were you listening to while
in Nigeria for me. I've listened to everything

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like, my parents made us listen to a lot of Fuji me.
Music is listened to my parents listened to a lot of like
Barista. She not Peters Juju music.
I Paula. Okay, you know for me I didn't
get introduced to Alfred Beach to later later for my family,
like my dad, like my mom doing more, my dad like celebrated

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like Fuji musicians. That's who's into that Circle
for. Yeah, he's one of those guys
that that stepping on stage and tried to outspend everyone.
Okay, he needs his Nam but hey, when I was right a bit of, you
know. Yeah.
So so like for me like that was the first type of music that I
was introduced to. I found everything else.

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But myself, I found on be by myself.
I found hip-hop music by myself.Were you influenced by any like
my African arm? Be artist?
Or no, no, no. Honestly, like my even when I
lived in, Nigeria at a very young age.
Age. Like, for me, I saw, I've always

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seen myself, like, if I want to do this, I want to do music,
right? But I want to do it in America.
I want to do it on the big stage.
I want to like, I don't know what that interpretation was but
that was always been an image that I saw and I didn't really
start creating music to. I found myself in Atlanta,
started doing like going to townshows started, like really

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trying to navigate me producers and songwriters.
And that was just the perfect place for ever let songwriting.
That was how I got into songwriting actually, because
people Akon was was the representation of what African
pop star was. Yep.
That was an American. Oh yeah, that was the image of

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it that was and and really, thatwas the first and only really at
the time the weekend. Probably some love on that.
Oh no. He was a con was definitely the.
Yeah, more thing that we gave him after.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
And, you know, like I feel like even at the early stages, a lot
of people did not even know while he was Nigerian.
People really. You're a con because it kind of

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had an association with DC exactly a kind of had the
African background, you know, it, but the sound and the image
and everything was very Pop. I can understand me being just
African kid, like in that space.People really didn't know what
another one look like, they onlyjust recognize a con.

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And for me people need a songwriters.
Yeah, I had a passion for some writing and that was how I got
into rooms because everybody wassigned.
Labels are saying a lot of artists but they need a
songwriters and being an Africanlike kid at the time.
To, for me, I had to work four, five six times harder.
I've heard more nose in my life than yes.
So like people see me like your blue hair.

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Like I really, really about thislike I'm about to Art, like I'm
dedicated. Yeah.
I mean, I've been in country. I've worked.
With country musicians, I've ordered rap artists.
I've done hooks for hip hop, musicians.
I've done where I work with R&B musicians.
I've done Hooks and stuff for house musician.

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Who's your favorite contractors are working?
With will go through all the drama's?
Oh my goodness man. You know I'm a fan of everybody.
Everybody's special in their ownway.
So I'm going to just fan of justunique artists and everybody's

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doing anything. It's a better way to ask this
question, okay? Usually he's trying to get
trying to get mad again, truck. I don't know.
It's so good. It's so like what artists would
you say? You worked with wear it and like
it, got you feeling like this isthe path for you and you really
have what, you know, make you believe in what it is, you have

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producer. That's Why didn't it wasn't an
artist Roger because the artist,These were very intense the
labels and it was all on time. You had to show something, you
had to go in the booth and try to be precise exception, Robert
sessions and you want. So yeah, you have to go, you
have to go and people put you onthe clock.

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You have to be exceptional, within a certain amount of
tired, you create music. And for me, I fell in love with
that art of taking your time to create music because we're not
creating music to last for months of creating this art.
A lifetime. All that question again, the
producer you were gonna do so yeah, I actually found myself
working with a producer, this amazing producer, I met in

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Atlanta, his name is Dee Smith. Okay d.smith produced a record
on Lil Wayne's many years ago. Shoot me down.
It was Carter Carter 3. Yeah, you don't shoot me and it
was him saying as well, I'm saying, yeah, I'm amazing.
Amazing producer. I met Him.

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I was very when I met him, I waslike very R&B and he met me.
He was like, yo, I think you could do more than this, right.
It took me under his right wing to like just learn.
We started creating music and westart experimenting.
He was like, man. I see you more like seal Bon
Jovi. Like I like your tone.

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We could try some of and he's just, he's like a he's a genius
music musical genius. So from me, I got Experience
something different way, beyond my imagination of even how I
would see myself. But I was just watching a very
unorthodox way of creating music.
I became a fan of that right? And we start experimenting music

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and different things we did. Maybe like my life or records.
All the records we did was very like worldly, very seal, very
Bon. Jovi's just you can't really put
it in a box, right? I felt comfortable with that,
right? This is me transitioning from
songwriting to be an artist and even my real name is siddiq

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right? And I was still going by Sadiq,
then all very cool. Yeah.
And we did this songs and would like he was like, I love Sadiq,
but it doesn't even represent these songs anymore.
It just felt like it just felt like a different day.
Different thing is just bigger than what I imagined, but it
felt right. Yeah, that's how the name world

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came about. Out later changed it to W.
It was initially wo rld but it'schanges to wrld which is world
with you in it. That's the title of my new
album, my world with you. So it's my word with you.
So with everything that I can I contact with me, I begged yeah
no no I just exist. He spoke with a moment.

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Everything that I've experiencedfrom living in Nigeria to living
in the u.s. two people. Two relationships of friendship,
all those things, you collect somuch data, right?
As a human being. And for me, like, my art is
music, and I just share that through that, you know?
Yeah. So now I'm God.

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Now, I was gonna ask because nowobviously, I've spoken to a lot
of artists that work here and then takes that trip to Nigeria.
And I can't tell you, I've heardgood things for people who've
done it. What was your experience?
Like, we're you excited previousto it and what was the reality?
Like when you land and you're just, you know, you're just

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artist with a resume, you know, you used to dealing with America
and way things work, and then you go to Nigeria.
And obviously it's, I wouldn't call it Vibes and Insha'Allah,
but it's very close. You know, what I learned very
fast that back home. The fans and people don't really
like the more Americanized. Nigerian artists young not that,

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they don't like it. It's just a bit more to clean.
You got to prove yourself. No, it's just to clean and it's
like the expect you to feel likeyou're better.
Your energy is just survived where you talk is just like, oh,
you Boog, I just got back, you know, IG.
Don't know really. But that's that was that's like
the That's more like the vibe. But for me like I think a lot of

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people didn't realize, like, howmuch of Nigerian background as I
have that I still had even when I went back home.
And I was, you know, I was blessed honest, it's a blessing.
I should be myself at show you what I had trouble before going.
Some people had like, at least like an introduction to to the

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sound and the love was pure. Yeah.
And all I had to do, honestly, we just be myself, I didn't.
Go and come back. I spent time there.
I was doing radio shows and about Dawn I was I was shown up
in places that people never thought and prior to that I
felt. I was I seem so far away, right?
And I was shown up to like I wasgoing to put a court to do

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interviews. I was, I was in a bad Dawn.
I was going to on my last part, so I was I was all across.
I was all over Legos. I want to have Buju.
I went to Kenya. I went to South Africa for me
like, Like, I really wanted to make a real connection and not
just go and come back. I spent time, you know, I dim

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the are like spend more of my time in Nigeria, know and I just
travel from there everywhere else.
Yeah. So talk to us about what led up
to the creation of your first release with your first, your
first full-length project. Love is contagious.
Yes. Oh man.
That was my transition back to Nigeria.

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And is that just that project was that's the one with show you
of contagious cause you really show you.
Our first is the first year thencontagious and we had paranoid
and drown and that was really just me transitioning back and
learning. You know, everyone introduce a
body of work to introduce my introduce myself again and have

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something to share. Actually I was working on, I
love goes to trouble at the sametime.
You know, like I was working on both projects at the same time.
Yeah, because I love goes to trouble.
I met sorrows in 2017. Shut up now.
Yeah, love is contagious. Came out, 2019.
I think March, no, no, Reserve even my charm, a 20-19.

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A lot of girls are trouble. Came out November 2018, same
year, the single, the single stuck out to me, especially
because show you all for such asMoves like a show.
It felt like a modernized highlife record kinda yeah yeah,
yeah. Actually set out to cheesy.
Yeah. Majesty is amazing.

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That was honestly show. You have really changed.
I remember, shout out to DJ equal, right?
He was the first DJ to ever play.
Show you off. That's awesome.
I remember, I called him. He like he lives in Atlanta to
we both live in letter. A lot of people know me for
doing more alternatives. Music more like just really just

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different stuff. And when I remember invite him
to Studio when I made sure you of and I played it, it looked
and he's like, yo guy, you are never going to be able to go
back to what you were making once you release this song.
You say, you know, that's and heit was hard, it was hard.
Like it was really hard because everything just went like this
hmm But the love was real, it was pure and you have to follow

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that that that made me kind of like you know what?
Of this idea of being part of a cultural conversation of
something that I am. That's what I'm with I am.
Yeah, because I was doing a lot of like I was I was on be obese
album as a featured artist. I was working.
I was, we had like about like five songs out, that's awesome.

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But the thing about it was that even those records that I was
doing, they were doing dope and all that.
But I was the love was very mid because there was a still a
Occasionally connection to who Iwas, which was very important,
you know? And I would go, I would go to
like a video shoot, we like, maybe like a Trinidad James.

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I was working in Trinidad as well to or like, Scotty ATL.
I'll go to a video shoot in their neighborhood.
Now, feel how connected the we're with ya.
Community chat. When I was just an African guy
doing R&B music but there were still people love the music but
it was very desert a heavy love.Disconnection, I wanted that for

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myself tonight. And you know, honestly, the only
thing that I really love about show you off and contagious is
that they were both very experimental.
Yeah. Yeah.
Right. So she obviously show you how to
sound but then contagious was very Fuji.
Yeah, it was very simple Point. She was something II realized
that the day I was like you knowevery song I've ever put out all
experiments or so I none of my song sounds the same.

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You can literally play a callingteam song, play Contagious right
after. And nobody would even.
Yeah, there were. Yeah.
So I think that's always interesting because I feel like
artists now coming out the country like where there's this
fight to figure out what genre, you know, not so box everybody.
But it's like it's a playlist and world now you know,
everyone's trying to show up in this place, link with this

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artist and get x amount of plays.
So it's always interesting like when you listen to world and
you're getting this sound, this Vibe, you know I mean and it's a
full body of work that has a cohesion to it but It's hard to
just say world is this obviouslyyou have the name that gives a
world music. Everybody like diving into our

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sound. Now wants to know what to
Associated weight and that's very difficult because the last
black country to have this wave would be Jamaica and Jamaica was
easier to say this is the sound.Yeah I was having a conversation
with someone backstage some stage and he just kept asking
questions I think is this an interview right?
And A lot of the questions he was asking me where very sweet,

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the sound knows every time, right?
Because I realize even for me, too, I have have people that are
like shoot, I have show you a fence, I have contagious family
and I have a lot of girls of trouble fans but all these songs
were all intentional when I met sighs.
I heard a sound, one of the mostamazing producer of ever work

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with, like we both have something to come.
We are both overachievers with our art.
He's constantly pushing to try new things.
He's constantly, he's Fearless with his approach, because he's
not trying to repeat anything he's done.
I'm not trying to repeat anything I've done.
So every time we get together, it's just weird.

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It's just I can't even explain it.
We're working on a part 2 of theproject right now and I sit back
and I listened like what the are?
No stars, no cuz Cause you're both nuts obviously because the
things that we've created recently.
Hmm words can't really explain it.
It's because when we did troublewas the first of its kind where

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we did mad it was the first of His Kind Show You Off.
Was the first of its kind to contagious just what it was but
it's just like you only have onelife to do all this most amazing
things that you think of and dream of like You know, just
have to give it a shot. Is there a genre that you've

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always wanted to tap into that? You haven't tapped into yet?
My actually like my chords genre.
I started introducing her littlebit more and this most recent
album. Okay.
Because I was with you, my worldwith you.
Yeah. This one is more personal.
You hear more of like the the urban Sol World in this one, I

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really wanted to. I felt like, I waited so long to
do it. It but I just had to do it the
conversations a lot. It shows it shows.
My state of mind a lot more. What my struggles my flaws, a
lot of people from show you off.Like I usually I use your song
too, but this time, this is me very flawed.

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Just like a lot of my fellow guys and really I wanted to talk
about a lot of our conversationswhere I'm comfortable.
This is the most uncomfortable album you probably going to
listen to No people people stillcatching up but when they get to
it like this is like one of the most raw projects that I've been
most personal project I've ever released.

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So what me what made does the right time because you said
waited but you felt like it had to be done what?
Mrs. The rights on the title is my world with you is really like
my world with everything around me and my struggles.
I really wanted to show them like the project starts with a
song called These Days. Love them change.
I'm just saying I want To be successful.

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But this time with my peers, with my homies with people
beside me, not one that's, I want to be successful with my
community or a dive into overthinking at a song on there
called overthinking. I'm always overthinking.
Even when I find something that looks good, that feels right,
because relationship professionals even
relationships. I'm always overthinking it

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because of past situations. You think something is
repetitive even when it feels right?
You doubting if this could be it.
And that doubt sometimes, messesit up, you know, I can't stop
overthinking. So this is like there's a lot of
like the conversation is so raw and there's more black and
white. I wasn't in Fairytale world.
Yes. So might they now is because we

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talk about mental health, a lot.So would you say like you're in
a good mental space as well? That leads to that project being
what it is. So if you're not lying to
yourself, you're not lying to your fans.
You're really just that. So you're able to stations which
is this is a pandemic project aswell because that was part of
Like the that was the period. I created this particular album
here makes and they reflected a lot of the conversations.

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When I first started the projectI was I was very commercially,
intentional child, like I neededto add something to prove, and I
think I removed, like 80% of allthose intentionally commercial
records. There was like, those records
still going to come out right atits time, but I went more in

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depth. With the conversation, I really
felt the need Need to have some conversations. 444 Timeless
reasons. Yes.
No as though. Very, very cool.
So with I love girl trouble. Yeah, EP.
Hmm. Talk to me.
Those records were so fun. Listen to because it was all, it

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was like all the. I'm not gonna say toxic broader
themes that I'm pecan. You see all the themes that I'm
familiar with with as R&B records that are non African.
With Africa. Yeah twist.
Yeah. So I loved it amazing.
Each record back-to-back. I was like absent, fucking
lutely. Yeah.

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Then I was like, what is part 2 and then get a different sound,
bro. I'm happy.
You took your time though. It's exciting.
It's exciting to be doing a parttwo more.
So I feel like means sighs. We're in a very great space.
We both got gone through so muchseparately individually.

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In the past few years. And I think when we came back
and reconnect it I feel like it's a certain it's a different
higher level of appreciation andlove that we share for just
Brotherhood and respect for eachother.
And it's, it's showing in the music, the choices.

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The things that we do in this type of conversations, the sound
choices, the moons, and it's showing him that as well,
because the first one, just like, I mean, that project was
so intentional. Like, every song, every every
mood, every Rhythm, because I found, I've always been a big

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fan of lyrics because, because, just the world that I come from
different from show you what it was all about lyrics and stuff.
But when I Met size in this rhythm.
In his Commercial Sound, I knew that it was a problem when I do
what I do with what he does. It was a good parent was a good
parent and it would just continue to do that.

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Like I mean the music just gets better, just when you think he'd
you're not going to get anythingthat you got before.
That's exciting. Because before I know you're not
gonna get what you got before just winning, right?
So people got to, keep an open mind because before we met
trouble, people didn't people didn't Ajan a song like that
before we made mad. It was not imagine, he's just
hurting like, oh wow, I need this.

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So it's gonna be a lot of Vibes that people didn't know they
needed until they hear. What was there out of all the
records you've put together. What's, what was the most was
the record that was the most funto make for you?
We talked about the old ones kids wasn't English or out yet.
I'll tell you the hardest one to, okay?
Right. Most fun for me was Hmm.

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We see we had prisoner inside a food shop trouble with smooth.
Yeah, troubles. Easy smooth, troubles.
Fine. Okay.
Yeah, it's not the hardest hardest one was mad, huh?
Oh my God, tell you what? Yeah, but I tell you why.
It's funniest story ever. So why we're creating that

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project? This was pre me spending more
time in Nigeria. Okay, so I still had a lot of
like, my American stiff side where for example, backstory
when I did show you off the O Muhammad Ali on my belly.
The loo actually I recorded it and I played for friends, they
loved it and the second time when I came around I took it

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out. I took the your bio.
Oh wow. And I remember one of my friends
was like yo Guy where is the Yoruba?
But make I slap you right now, it's like you're thinking the
robbers away you know? No it's because I was still
unsure. If I wanted to start diving into
adding the your brother. Stuff.
Yeah. So mad was the last song we
recorded with finished on the project and when I first did if

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you listen to Matt it's a very pop record.
Yes. It did on my stress is straight
arm, be pop conversation. The entire record was sounded.
Like if you heard like a Travis Scott and Usher mix bracket,
that was how the entire record sounded And dependable, and it
was something I did at the end. Anybody to the front, right?

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It's very cool, right? It's hard to like, yo, and at
that time, he told me was like, yo, this project is not done
until we do something for Africa, but that entire song was
so popped the been Berlin be wasthe like just the fun part that
I added at the end just like, nowe're not going to put this at
the end we'll put it the beginning but even then he

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wasn't satisfied with me. He said this thing I need
because he seemed to do it with prisoner with the your brother
pigeon here and there. But I was still like I'll just
get a small stay in my my International Space and he kept
fussing me and I was like, I want this project to be out and

(30:38):
I felt like what do you want youhere?
I felt like I feel like it was holding back.
Yeah and I remember in ATL and Isaid I was actually mad.
I removed, I changed the entire verse.
She has kept the hook so I changed it the entire verses
that I had. I love this so much because it
was it was more American, the world that I that was familiar

(31:00):
with, but I knew what it was going to do to the conversation.
Would have connected more with the rest of the world, then,
Nigeria in Africa, the verses that I had kept the hook and I
just went back in make, you know, do it.
Then I was actually upset when Iwas creating laughing, I was
mad. Really listen to.
Yeah. Where are we?
Because I was so in love with the original version.

(31:23):
Oh wow, why don't you, why don'tyou put that one out as an
alternate version. But one of the best decisions I
was creating that alternative version because you got it.
No, no pigeon make we know do it.
Yeah, but it was really, it was me actually just letting go.
Yeah. Sure.

(31:43):
You know, and the connection of it it was a choice that would
have connected more with the rest of the World than Africa
Nigeria with that record. Would you ever put out the, the
version you intended to put out originally?
Like, even as like a as I as an aside.
You know what? We never you never know.
Just, you know, maybe like audiomac some things.

(32:04):
Okay, enjoy, maybe, maybe but maybe not.
I think would be cool to like, have my have your fans kind of
see your artistic process? Yeah.
Just because you know that was one of the first thing you said,
take a thing like that verse wasso it was so wavy.
Yeah, right. It was the world that I lived in
besides LA, because he was like,even the, your brother I did in

(32:25):
some of the records, it felt like it wasn't enough.
Even the shiny seems not enough sounds like behind the scenes
were in happen. That's what.
Yeah, in like me. But but four years later, like
telling the story of how it all became exactly to be do.
But the thing about us when we work together as like snowy go
for me, like it was like even even with getting back together
it feels like the first time. There's no ego is no.

(32:50):
This my way is the only way we both just so open and humble
with the art, like when I say, humble like, we're so detailed
and, and very vulnerable with itand, and open with it in, just,
like, in like this, you would, if you feel like we're just

(33:12):
learning and just doing this forthe first time, and that's where
the true magic is unsurprising. Very, very cool.
Yeah, it was an artist that you I wanted to work with.
You haven't worked with yet a lot Kanye.
Kendrick J. Cole Kalani.

(33:35):
Can't think of so it's a lot of artists you know about producers
producers I've worked with a lotof producers.
I want to work with. Yeah I'm still mostly produced I
want to work with both home and abroad.
I've worked with okay. A lot of like the new stuff that
I'm doing to new producers that I've always wanted to work with

(33:57):
this new music is like I'm starting to even achieve those
goals now which is good. So my thing obviously worth
Going about you and your community, and the genuine love
when you get that sound out of the out of the situation and
working with artists. Are you thinking your sound to
them or you like looking at justexperiments and again and you

(34:19):
already obviously these artists have a type of sound where
you're like, I could see myself doing my thing on that.
Um, yeah, for me, I respect to Rand I respect everyone but I'm
so Because I'm so very particular energy wise as well,
when I decide to work with you, I'm really putting all my ego

(34:42):
out at the door when I walk intothe room because I'm walking
into a loan, I'm walking into respect, you as amazing as you
are. And I'm just really there to
just add whatever I feel and learn.
At the same time, you're different.
When I'm collaborating with an artist is one thing.
I'm adding Vibes here and there,let's try distracting.

(35:04):
This I'm taking from, you know, your ideas as well which is a
collaborative process. What I'm writing for artists, I
really put myself completely outof it.
We have conversations first, I love to have conversations, I'm
not trying to just create a songfrom my story in perspective.
For you to just sing. I wanted to be just feel as
natural as possible and I want Iwant to put you involved with

(35:27):
his possible. So when I walk away, don't feel
like you just took a song for me.
You own this record and you Itísbetween woman because we had
conversations that we created something based on your
conversations, are you? It feels natural.
Yeah. Okay.
So on that note, what, how was making sweet in the middle

(35:48):
Wow's? You have multiple artists, you
know, obviously different sounds.
I think it has a lot of world Zone.
Another shizzy collaboration. Yeah.
Right. Yeah, it's literally perfect.
Yeah. So but how does that?
Is that come out? How do you feel about it hand
out? How does your fan base?

(36:08):
You know about, I do they fall in love with it.
Like, you know, the rest of us feel middle is like one of the
most the most genius afrobeat collaboration ever made.
I think because of the diversityin the artists paint on the
record and first and how it weren't true, reminds me of mad,
a bit, you're kind of doing the scallion, my family of my baby

(36:32):
that was, I'll tell you, I'll tell you how this works.
We'll come along. Okay.
So we just blew my mind in the past.
Yes, that's wreck. It means she's he worked in for
David and I remember going to Laand well-connected.
She's was in LA as well, went toStudio which is Vibe and I
created two songs that day. Story a song, she called story

(36:55):
from alpha so project and suit in the middle.
There's a two songs that createdthat day which is vibing.
And I remember my energy was more story so in the middle was
an experiment for me because playing around just to shoot his
little Flex. Beautiful.
Yeah, it's just, you know, one of the greatest song so just

(37:17):
like honestly for real. So student middle was such a
Continue. We got right by it on the way
here. I'm saying you know, a yes fire
but she she knows me so well, I'm story was my My Vibe because

(37:37):
there's so much soul and stuff in it.
Or is it right? Well, legs actually.
And that was that I was I was working out for.
So that was the, that was the vibe of what I was doing for
that. And she knew this world guy
going to put Someone is laptop and I never release it and he
was right. He's right, he's right.

(37:57):
He was so right now this is about your right and he played
it for David and David hit me upwith like your, bro.
She's playing me something again.
And got to do this. Yeah, it was like yo, let's do
this one together. He's like, citable, guys.
So he was like, yo. Let's do this one together.
I was like, yes, let's do it. That's amazing.

(38:17):
I respond immediately because I knew I wasn't going to do
nothing with him on God. You guys would have never heard.
Certainly were sitting on that record.
They were, he would have been how many things I'm saying on.
And I think it's people. Did you just come and collect
rush me the studio when the disease and just be like, yo,
say less, but give me the recordby, but it was the same energy

(38:38):
of how I almost did not do like the, the Mad verse, okay?
You get the, you get the lights out of have to be coerced.
You get the logic right and we need you on answer story just
like playing beats and let it ring backwards motion right here
like the like live close, Crazy everything.
So he was in LA as well. They was in LA, we linked up.

(39:02):
And you know, the magic started coming together and he was like,
yo, we need another verse from you.
Let's the award, give me anotherverse so that your list.
Let's do this one together on this one, like me, future.
In you. And that was not creating a new
verse. That's the one with the sweet
potato in everywhere. Oh, my sweet boy.
Yeah. So I created another verse a

(39:24):
third verse. The third verse part of the
third verse was so amazing. I'm off to play in somewhere.
Maybe like you to know that I created was, it was so amazing.
Part of it. Is what you guys here, marked by
immune. Case one know what's up.

(39:46):
So that's the beginning of the verse.
It was at another verse that part was so sick, she was like,
yo, we cannot lose this point. We've worked hard to you again,
if you have the verse he's knocked out, not because knocked
he has, he has rather. He famously fall asleep.
But that's end. Shout out to David and give it

(40:07):
to a man like the way he. And I that record and thought, I
don't know what kind of spirit he had because initially, Was
just me and him on the song nature but my remodel right.
And he thought like, Naira Slaughter and honestly flattened
versus so flagrant. Yeah, so flagrant one can play

(40:30):
around feeling. I remember the first time.
I heard it different, you know, and for me that was what was
scared because it was we had a vision was just me and David,
but his vision with four of us was just so that it's like, Kane

(40:52):
something like one of the best dish ever.
You know what, it feels like an R&B.
What a reminded me of is like you know, the 90s like 90s early
2000, have like those R&B ballads.
I have the hip-hop versus like best of me with Maya and Jay-Z.
That's kind of what it felt like, you're like or like
flavors that we create somethingor like the bad.

(41:13):
Like, the bad boy are aware. Yeah.
Like you have a Pity and 112 andyou know it's like that merger
of like hip-hop ballads. That's what it kind of felt like
because I mean you and David on the record would have been.
It would be solid. Yeah, but I think all the all
that that came this year, brought it over the top, it just
it just so much. It's really like, bringing

(41:33):
different worlds together and itwas so magical.
And I remember I remember walking on set like like David
went in. Yeah.
Like the set was probably one ofthe biggest sets I've been on
from office or the middle like the set was so massive.
I mean like, yo I You know, you just gotta appreciate when you
even create music but an artist indeed, push it Way Beyond you

(41:58):
know just to even create their own version of going to make it
wet. It was like Shadows, very like
very sexy beef. That has to feel amazing where
it's like I probably was just gonna chill with this song and
maybe play randomly for Vibes. And now this song, you know, I
mean, you get on that side and you see all this that has to
feel Chris song. Would have never come out that
she has. Did not crazy and she's a new
me. Will you

(42:37):
Naira on that wasn't like a rapid e-wrap record.
Sure like it showed how divers even slapped onto is really kind
of showed that I could float on.Hey, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm
trying, I'm trying to get him back on the crease of new stuff.
I mean, sure to keep this figure, how do you know, like, I
feel like Africa in such a greatspace right now that we could do

(42:58):
so much. Even with ourselves, I'm
collaboration, and create wider Sound by ourselves without
having to feature XYZ to make that.
Even that Sonic that we looking for, I already started doing
that already. Actually, I can't wait to share.
This is a lot of magic in the world when he wakes up Dora will
get will hack the hard drive, huh?

(43:19):
No I think that's absolutely amazing and I think a lot of
credit should go to obviously people discover music by them
themselves but a lot of our parents really had great music
tastes like, you know, a lot of our homes wearing just like
Nigerian music. Like now you get the kids of
those parents coming out and youhear kids are Nigeria, making

(43:40):
music that are not afrobeat so not afro-pop.
Like full-blown, can just be in that drawer, like their kids
making great country, music straight up R&B music after, you
know, and Love with that sound and it's like good chance that
we introduced the word by this until we get it.
People are getting inspired every day.
So, beautiful, like the fearlessness, like I remember

(44:01):
before I even start doing it, afrobeat Fusion stuff, most of
the alphabet songs were like faster Rhythm.
We like you lose your songs. It has lose your hip out of baby
dance. Yeah, you lose your hips in the
process like for real and everything is slower now, is
more conversational. I'm hearing it every day.
Well, it's also you got thing which Artists are conversational

(44:22):
artists, which artists are actually lyrical.
Enough. Absolutely to deliver but--but.
Even-- but--but even--, but guess what, though?
My knowledge. No.
And if I was, but yeah, but check this out action.
True. But here even artists and never
really give you like the conversations.
I'll give you a conversations now because it's like we
evolving every day. We are inspiring each other

(44:44):
every day. Yeah, to be honest and and it's
only going to get better becauseI say like the world should be
ready for the next generation. Artists coming because imagine
the artists that are inspired byDavid, the artists inspired by
Wiz, the artists inspired that burned Spies The Artist attempts

(45:06):
and spies the artist that I inspired you, like, listen,
they're going to be coming with.So very different scale.
Like they if they like watching my, all he did that, I'm coming.
I'm I can do that. No, I can even do bigger than
that. Now they're driven wild or not.
Just locally. Everybody is like yo I can go, I
can make it, I can do this, I can get a Grammy now to I can

(45:28):
it's that energy you be surprised when that you what
that really no water barriers aswell.
Because obviously we'd every with every project you given you
given sounds and you've done, like you said they're
experimental sounds so to speak because, you know, they knew to
sign ears absolute. But it's like the next person
can use that as their Foundation.
Absolutely run with it produces as well.

(45:50):
Actually, it's a Don't even think right in where it's like
you're sharing yourself in the last project with and being
comfortable with. This is what I'm going through.
This isn't my battles and this is my conversation with myself.
So it's like it's really listen to this what they think that
give us. Yeah, I was playing the album
for for someone. I will mention names.

(46:10):
I'm not I try not to make any wedo alphabets out there, that's
okay. Okay, but she says like, yo,
wow, this is incredible, sounds like you're featuring yourself.
That's awesome. Yeah it's like you know yeah I
think that's growth though. It's like sounds like you're
featuring yourself on the songs.It if you listen to the new
album I've had a chance yet I'veheard I've heard.

(46:31):
Yeah. I've heard most of it.
Absolutely. Yeah.
So it's just like and I'm already like I'm I'm still like
promoting this album for a whileis so some special things I'm
trying to get out to complete the narrative.
Only seen like the first phase of it.

(46:52):
Working on the second phase of it, just finalizing the vision
board for that God willing. So it just really the next
sounds. There's already so already laid
out the next music, the next sounds.
The next I'm doing a lot of collaboration now, actually
behind the scenes, working with newer, artists and artists that

(47:15):
are established like I'm bringing different people into
into my world. I'm In the world with the music,
you know, creating music with teni and that's a mother and a
didn't work. When I don't know, do something
on the same song. Wow, play something that would
beg beg you to give any a married woman.

(47:40):
When she's amazing creating songs with Pretty Boy, Pretty
Boy, and all people. It on one song.
Oh wow, that's amazing. Creating so I'll be cut with
Jewel boy and and Barge same project, another artist that I'm

(48:04):
so much in love with her voice is Leah, Leah.
She signed to DeVito the most singer at her.
Actually. I just seen her Bible.
Yeah, she opened for me and December and I heard a lot like
yours. Have such an amazing voice.
Where's she from? She's Nigerian - what?
Oh my God, I'm not sure. We're quite created something

(48:25):
magical with her in like for me just creating music with artists
and tapping into different size of them.
And being I can't wait to share what those collaborations sound
like. But I'm still, I'm still
creating more as I'm traveling. Just connecting with different
artists. I'm just reading music with

(48:45):
people that you just connect with naturally, it's just
getting better and better. I can't wait like the next Just
gets more exciting. That's So Dope to be here
because I know like I've always liked obviously, you know, we
have a relationship with Banky and it's signed a few of the
artists that have gone back home, you know?
So it's like you being able to get to do what you want to do.

(49:06):
Like, it's a blessing. I don't know if you've like
full-blown, take place in this like, it's a blessing grateful
because it's like I think when you grow up here, there's that
your Nigerian, so the Americans and your American to the people
back home, you know? I mean, so to find that path.
Both because they're up there going to be a whole lot more
people coming behind you where they are like based here.

(49:26):
Obviously, David another person in Georgia with you but a lot of
kids are going to be here tryingto figure out that Pat's a beat
themselves when they get back home.
It's okay. It's easier.
Said than done. Honestly, it's easier said than
done. It's easier said and done, but
part of it is really just being yourself.

(49:48):
You have to just be yourself regardless of what your story
is, because I have felt like yousaid, a lot of artists don't get
that creative space yet until they prove themselves.
Now, obviously, you have a strong resume previously, even
stepping foot in danger. So, a lot of people don't have
that resume where the powers that be around, them will say,
do it this way, because now, when you get into it, they
people were like, oh, this is worked, do this, not just the

(50:12):
rest people to Freedom. So, Freedom do we must sides
Beyond not that. I didn't, you know what?
It's beyond resume because even the resume like when you when
you get to Africa, does get you in there.
But doesn't mean that it would keep you in the know, it was a
lot of a lot of people go and run and come back.
Yep. I feel like a lot of people
didn't really expect me to stay.As long as I've stayed in, still

(50:32):
continue to be part of the community and for me the next
phase is just like I've been able to with God by my side man,
it's not easy. I I created like for projects.
Without any major feature of collaboration, it's not easy.
And I have sustained that now, people know my sound.

(50:54):
You know what? It's easier to even collaborate.
Now, I'm not, you know, because I have a sound that people are
familiar with now and I collaborated people.
I'm not just lost in that sauce.I'm just still representing
myself while creating wide arranging music and
collaborations with my peers so I can't wait to share.
The next phase like it's so beautiful.

(51:15):
Just teasing us will go music that we're not.
What's the reception of the new project button?
Like, you know what, I would hurt.
I haven't heard so much people say this is a masterpiece that
people have heard it. It's not the most hyped album,
but everyone has heard it. It's been, I've had, I've had
people say, this is a masterpiece then, oldest a

(51:37):
great. So do you think it's ahead of
its time? It's ahead of its time.
But Hindu now, do ya. Cuz, you know, there's that
we're moving so fast like whenever I previously when
people say it's ahead of its time, I feel like it could be
like a year later. Like Yay, went through that with
him. What's the one with damn that
first album he made with So witha different sound that's the

(51:59):
easiest Jesus, right? Oh yeah, so it's like that took
a lot more time and then it's like okay this is the sound
that's going on and then you go.Oh my gosh.
Almost music take time. That's all all my songs.
Take Time. No.
But I feel like now like things are moving a lot faster halves
because that now some people. Yeah.
And people are a lot more free with sound that your albums out.

(52:22):
Somebody is running with a similar sound to you and then
before you know people catch Up to what it is.
You already put apps like imitation is yeah, it's a

(52:44):
new song and it was so amazing to see how much talent is out
there. Like bro.
Listen, it was so impeccable so amazing like theirs Many
talents, like, II want to make challenge?
I wanted to pick one person. I end up picking three, two guys
and a girl, right. You probably won't even satisfy.

(53:05):
Yeah, but what I did intention behind even that challenge was
beyond just a challenge, the goal was to create an original
song with the winter time. When it for me, I'm like write
songs like my sleep every day. I want to just like, you know,
what time to start planting season, collaborated with even
new artist, not just we need more Lemoore Superstars like on

(53:26):
God. And I felt like one was not
enough because it was too many too many amazing artists.
So I'm actually next month, I'm going to have a studio session
with the three artists and I'm going to create a original
collaborative song with me with them.
We're going to release that we would love to hear but a release
that yeah, we would love to share that race.
A Chase TV coming on board to document already.

(53:48):
Yeah, like the they partnered upmedia was to document the whole
process. I'm gonna shoot a video like
that to share. I think I just didn't want to do
it. Challenge.
This should get my song Moving And when it's when I was very
much like, for me, I wanted to be something because a lot of
people want to work with me and I just didn't want to just get
him on the verse and let it go. If I, if one of these artists

(54:12):
become the next, some of the next biggest Superstars.
I'm listen to best feeling. That's no.
We can't wait to show you that when it's done now.
Absolutely, I've completely off-topic.
What's your favorite food? Favorite food is fried rice.
Hey, for the rice. Patsy, I got mushy.
You know? I am a.
You can't go, I think is a low chair, popular

(54:47):
soup. Yeah, it's good.
I like it too. I just don't eat it.
I don't. Yeah, well, I just feel like
it's just not versatile comparedto the other popular super tits.
The tile Versi answer, no, but it is in.
I always want to ask because I think it go.
See is top tier. I feel like a Goosey Goosey.

(55:08):
Yeah, you know, it depends on who's making it to know, of
course, of course. But for now felt like there was
some history. Yeah.
He's had a bad day, he's out. He's a few times.
Auntie's house again. Presenting family house.

(55:28):
I'm not, you know, you see, how am I jaggu?
Cic Le fameux. Don't say things like that.
I'm not eating. So what are you willing to try
out? Like, is it?
I'll try Jennifer. I said, you know, different
flavors stupid. They have different.
Yeah. What's the best idea in
restaurant Atlanta, in a letter?Yes.

(55:53):
There's nobody seems to be able to answer the question when I
know what I'm asking me man. Like, you know, I gotta shout
out to my man little Leaguers. So if we like is what are we
ordering? Because I wear a plan on going
to get the jollof rice in like the fish, like the tilapia fish.
Like a whole fish. Okay.
And you know with the sauce and stuff like that.

(56:14):
Yeah. You can be found one in l.a.
that you like as well. Oh no, he does not have.
Oh no oh no, and leave. Ultra is just and then and no
shade. If you know what I've tried I've
tried a few and, you know, you know hasn't hit.

(56:34):
Yeah. It is what it is.
LH food, cultures, as like London food culture, you want
tacos one? Good tacos, go.
That's it street. Tacos gonna make some of the
Asian dishes are very taco. Tuesdays be hitting different.
Yeah, but not all. It's a whole, it's a whole
Community out there. No, but I'm Nigel food over
there. I've tried it.
They were like, oh, this hand tothis person.

(56:56):
You try it. And it just doesn't hit if your
Auntie and Uncle in the street, there has to be a home dish.
And I haven't met someone that'slike couldn't hold it down in
La, it is what it is. Yeah, we're optimistic that it
can happen. But sheís ATL's 9 Jack culture
do because it's it's like shouldwe go shout out to the DJ's?
Yes, yes shut up. It was Houston at first but I
think ATL is slowly creeping. Yeah go ahead and run through

(57:19):
some of the African DJs in Atlanta.
That man. Of course I mentioned DJ equal.
Yes Man. DJ fly made my my I can't think
of a like Michelle out to everyone man.
Like because the DJ's even before this new phase of Africa
to the world stage, these guys were introducing the, the early

(57:46):
sounds, you know, they brought you to where it was.
It became started becoming Cool to bring your American friends
to the African Club because theywere having the best time.
Because a lot of American clubs you like this, everybody's mean,
my gain in like, you know, you're frowning at the bottles
and stuff, right? Yeah.

(58:07):
It's really like, you know, but now for real But like everyone
is like, this is like really sweating in there and I felt
like a lot of like if my American friends had the best
time. Yeah, because They just watch
people have a good time. That was the first addiction of
like, okay, you know what? I'm going to go my African

(58:29):
brother to hit the African night.
Not everybody doing you like when's the meeting wasn't next
function with a wedding day and I was like that was like a start
that was a start of the huge, you know?
Damn, I can't man. I want to think of, I can't
think of his name right now. I wish I could just remember
even leaving the DJs and in Atlanta, then that were like

(58:50):
started like During the radio shows yes I can't.
I can't think of this man's nameright now while you're thinking
of the name skincare because we don't want no one mean mugging.
You do know that's a big shout-out to everyone, man.
Like pushing what was the what was the moment where you felt?
Like like African pop music. Alpha beats was crossing over
into the mainstream in the state's being that you were

(59:10):
here. What was the record a video
Davido? Which one, which one is it?
If if if if if yeah, the video for sure.
And you know what? You know, in on Twitter so much
battle and defense battle my stuff, right?
But, but the reality of it is that like, everything helps

(59:33):
everything. I've been I've been saying, you
know, some saying it's like, youknow, everything that the DJ's
did help African artists. Yep.
Every promotional work that Wiz did help DeVito every bushel
where David did and Where he wasgoing and Performing and

(59:54):
introducing the sound. Yep.
Made it easy for people to find everything else.
Absolutely. Every wall, the stadium that
burn has performed and killing it.
Amazing performer, and all the great thing is doing, is opening
doors to other artists, people just finding it.
Yep. And it's such a chain reaction
and everything helps, everythingfrom burnage.

(01:00:15):
Is there to Yoda Center and was a few years back.
It was one Africa, that was at Toyota Center.
It and I just, I tell people allthe time, we are very lucky to
have great ambassadors for the sound, absolutely, because when
you take a friends to these people shows, they have a great
time. They had to go to a point where
your non-african friends are letting you know, stuff.
What's going on? Yes.

(01:00:37):
You for Duke it to you. Yeah, so it's amazing.
Like we have great ambassadors. And obviously the three, the
three popular guys and then it goes to the next wave and it's
like everyone is doing a wonderful job and you have
obviously world is out here telling us about all the sounds,
he's He's worked on and what he's interested in doing and
it's like you can have. We're talking about African kids

(01:00:57):
being inspired, but we have American kids who are going to
be inspired by what it is. You don't want because
absolutely music. Music is music.
You know, like Bob Marley said when it hits, you feel?
No pain but it's just like we have great ambassadors coming
out the country or operations are getting better to with three
days but it's more. There's more respect in the
collaborations. Now I remember living in

(01:01:17):
Atlanta. You see there's a lot.
It was like us a hub of a beginning of a lot.
Shout out to P Square. Oh yes.
Shout out to them because shout out to them in a lot of the
early collaborations with doing then.
With Rick Ross they got require all this you know I was I was
around then you know just watching and just being inspired

(01:01:39):
by those things. It was happening and for me all
these little things every littleit's like every effort is a step
forward every day. I remember when Drake, I don't
know. Drogba.
Yeah it wasn't. It was just Do you realize
range? Don't realize that if like the
music is helping a lot of DJ's now more African DJ's are

(01:02:01):
getting more jobs because he's wrong.
He might I was I was in Berlin eggs.
I was in Berlin. I was talking to a DJ.
There was a brilliant Festival that we did in the backstage was
just having a conversation. He was like yo I'm getting that
so much fucking being an athleteguy, Jay knows the sound, but
the reality of is that was beautiful.
Just had a conversation. Ian because everything is 360

(01:02:25):
even more after be dancers, on Tick-Tock like literally, it's a
360 km is having even, even likethe MCS and the the people there
are champion in the conversations.
This part like you, this family has exist because you're saying
it's information. Now, we now we have to re

(01:02:45):
sharing the stories everyday, much love to everybody and I
really like is really no room toReally be competing with each
other. The collaboration is really
wanted. What's going to create a
stronger future for us? This space.
Not, it's not. Yeah, it's hot and embracing
each other, so, for sure. Yeah, it's actually the up, I
always tell people it's like I was African movies at first,

(01:03:06):
that we had pushing pushing thatout.
All germs issue. Yeah, it was, it was all over
the place and then you get the music.
You are DJ. Remember, when would hear Shake
Your Bumbum tomorrow? SI Maya.
That was the first that shows your bumps.
What it's called, am I know? But that was the song week that
was the first song that was hanging radios out here.

(01:03:26):
Yes. Well yes well because those
because to Maya was founded by yeah they thought it was Saudi
Arabia. Yeah but it was the one where we
got in and then you go from there.
And now we start again you here and I'm Nigerian song already
and you just go on about talkingto same thing to go about your
day. So it's been huge lava are for
dancehall. Stuff was able to kind of cross
easily. Yeah even flavor.
Same reason why flavor all yell stuff?

(01:03:48):
They thought it was great Murder.
She Wrote Because the Rhythm wasthe shocking, right?
Yeah, I'm quite excited to see where else to go.
Some like it. When you working with the
winners of the competition is like obviously you're from what
you're saying. You love when the artist gets a
fingerprint and it's like my my my heart these days and she's

(01:04:12):
like, I understand my position, understand my value in a humble
way. I know myself.
I know my contribution and that for me.
It's like we can have more Superstars and just more a lot
of people have so much talent and people.

(01:04:32):
Some people just need your smallDirection and stuff.
I've learned so much, I can't hold on to that.
Like it's just sharing. Of course some of the mentors in
your life for the people around you that you credit for that
direction, family a mother family.
Like for me I've been inspired by just great great artists and

(01:04:54):
musicians most of these people have one Thing in common, they
always go against everything that was popular and I feel like
I'm cut from that same cloth. Don't, you know, for me, you
know, it's like, you know, I getinspired for example, you know,
how you sit, everything sounds like this, right?
Yeah. And you hear that one artist.
It just comes and do something special so different and

(01:05:15):
fearless. Yeah, you know, what is that?
Those are the artists that inspire me.
That's me every, I've found out like, every artist that I've
ever been inspired, that moves me have that one.
In common they just do one thing.
Like you like, what is this? I've never heard this before.
That's what inspires me is that amazing.
It is there anything that you would like to impart on your

(01:05:37):
fans that will be watching this right now?
Any advice from your learnings that you would like to impart
with like appreciation? No of wisdom.
You know, what more know today is just appreciation.
I don't take the love for granted, like some people

(01:05:57):
really, really stand up for you.You know, lately has been as
conversation even prior to me releasing this album.
It was like it was a very touchyconversation where a lot of
people felt like your world is of more.
It became very touchy become, very aggressive for me and made
me realize that your people really genuinely care.

(01:06:19):
Like, I don't even know you we're not.
This is my family. I don't call my fans fans.
I caught him fams family becauselike, these people really be
going hard for you in private conversations.
We will be like audio people forfour hours.
Be like yo you're not heard thisthing and I you know, that
energy you feel that, you know, people were really stand up for
you because they see you and they want the best for you like

(01:06:41):
now. I like that's my family like I
appreciate anyone that the shares my music that
appreciates. What I do that fights for me.
I just for me I just hope to connect, you know, as I'm doing
these tours for me to say. I mean I've done like four
amazing projects in the past. Like 36 2019.
And for me, it's like, you know what, time to just.

(01:07:04):
I just want to connect with the shows and the the tour's the
kind of like a music is just growing every day.
So I'm just like connecting. The live space.
Yeah, but there's a little before we wrap.
What are those singles off the new project, my world with you?
Now, what was you release spunk experiments?
And experiments record that was like that.

(01:07:26):
So this project has a lot of like when you listen to it, you
feel my 8002, legis energy. It's very it's like I tap more
into hip-hop R&B and afro beats and so music.
There's like a lot of the influence.
Has and believe this, is it all the type of genres of music that
I've been exposed to. So you hear a lot of the ATO on

(01:07:48):
the tone with the RMB and the afro beats in it.
So I'm like fusing it. So spunk is what their
experimental, sexual, sensual wrecking stamina, which is like
the a my piano. So approach had let you down
which is another experiment. Straight hip-hop, very
aggressive record but this is mejust really just Being free.

(01:08:13):
I'm just so free on his project press is.
There's a record of people are loving a lot these days since
the album dropped, but it's so much gems on his album.
I think I put almost too much ofhis arm once gems, I really did
might like I did make it is gonna take a while, so it's
going to take a while for peopleto get around to him.

(01:08:33):
I feel like different songs are going to hit at different times
within the next two years. Gotcha, you think that people
process your EPS or up? He's better.
We live in a single World. Well, I have a song called Gucci
on the album. It's probably the most soothing
songs you're going to hear one of my favorite.

(01:08:56):
This is double conversation. I'm like I'm always people the
reason why I made that song specifically be like yo yo so
chill. And I see you.
So so calm, your energy is consistently the same.
Every time I see you is like I have a lot of Madness in my
head, but every time you see me,I'm good.
She when you see me, You know, like take it all away, take all

(01:09:16):
these things away. I'm still as just essence of
self-love is a lot of self-love conversations on the tone on
this particular album was like, yo, you can, you know, we have
to still love ourselves regardless of everything else is
happening. That's what that song is really,
is about. Yeah, so much.
Yeah. Just listen to manage gems.

(01:09:37):
Yeah. Much like that.
So where, where can your fans find you your new fans?
Us on this episode. It's a gram.
This is World. Th is is wur LD, same thing on
Twitter, Instagram. Facebook, I communicate like

(01:09:58):
well actually I try to communicate and respond as much
as we can. We got a commitment to some of
those songs that you don't want to release.
Yeah. It's anyway just yes or no.
The camera is on you. No pressure today, you know, we
decided to duction. Let me see how I feel after
this. Okay, I'm Energies where the,
maybe like Julian over the face right now.
You but, you know, these songs written the middle almost didn't

(01:10:20):
come out. So like that would have been a
crime. There's a lot of that would have
been a crime. So it's like maybe, you know,
some people. Are you awake today's sessions
where you find the artist? I've learned, I pay attention to
songs that I don't care for that.
Everybody cares for interesting.Like I this, I'm like it's
happened to many times show you what was a song That I created

(01:10:44):
even when I made it, everyone around me was like yo if you do
really so I'm going to come on, brick your computer and I know
that that was energy is like, itwas certain things.
It's like I may not I mean I maybe like experimental but I pay
attention to the energies aroundme, it's fine.
It's very few artists that give me like when I hear something
like if you don't put this out, I'm literally going to send

(01:11:06):
Russians to your house and collect And I must say anything
else. You've worked with all of them
which is hilarious. Yeah, this album literally I'm
like fuse and I have like P Prime of tells have have done
the genius. So that's about the genius
cheesy. So for example I was doing like

(01:11:26):
that Genies another is Nigerian but he's not here, Mia is
Nigerian but he's done Cody mostof all the new the best music
you've heard from Kid Cudi. You know that's his friend as
well choose like. He did like, 50 kids and Mom,
I'm having collaborate. I have like that on the same, on

(01:11:48):
the same song with temple, that's awesome.
I've done the same song with sheezy shine.
That's right. Yeah, I have.
I've tells with that the genius on Saturday night that said,
tonight is tells, and that the genius Prime was let you down P.
Prime does all the alphabets record.

(01:12:09):
If you listen to let you down. It's the most left you and you
be like, this is p. Prime.
This is for me. I love the essence of pushing.
Even when I work with out for these producers that I figured
they don't all know. I always look for those sounds
that everybody else don't like Ilo que love when people are I'm
steps out of the afro space and does like listen aren't be
Simplicity go looking down the work.

(01:12:30):
He's done with a lot that ball to Mike.
Yeah amazing that's the LA Lakeroh I can Yeah, eautiful records
harmonies everything. T Prime.
He's like one of the most diverse you, I'm special juice.
He's Young play, special young like he's, yeah, you did raise

(01:12:53):
it or not. He for with its catalog right
now is actually he has a wide range and he produced most of
the song, I collaborated with Asha on oceans.
Yes, he produced it as well. You know?
I mean, like just so many like We are pushing the boundaries
and it's a beautiful just to watch everyone.

(01:13:15):
Just keep pushing to be the bestversion and it's beautiful.
He's only going to get better. Yeah, amazing.
Well world, thank you so much for joining.
Thank you. Thank you.
Have amazing to have you in sucha great conversation.
It's been long overdue. Absolutely.
I wanna see if we do a live show, so we can force him to
bring the hard drive, right? Rose.
Yeah. Maybe one of these days mood.

(01:13:36):
Just catch me in the right, right?
Right. Space keep bagging, shh.
World had a great breakfast today.
I just want to be an alpha beatsours because he's very good at
begging please. You know like a whole lot about
anything for the listeners. Both anything for the full of

(01:13:58):
have the headphone jack ready tojust plug in funny.
That's funny. Amazing world.
Thank you so much, pretty so much.
Thank you. Thank you.
Support world's project. My world with you world, with a
you You wrld, thank you. And don't rush.
Listen, generally it's a body ofwork.
I feel like a lot of times, I feel like everyone in find

(01:14:20):
something that's one. You definitely find a piece of
me that you connect with and this one it's like, it's beyond
just music. I really shown a lot of gyms on
this one. I went out.
I went all the way there. No, yeah, that's unquestionable.
So yeah, please check it out. Listen to it.
Give it some time. I always feel like people should

(01:14:40):
listen to me. Different side in do differently
but yeah, check it out. Great, great.
Body of work is usually, it's the have you.
Thank you for dropping shit. Thank you, fam, less love, love.
You don't know it. Don't know why it's going on.

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