Episode 88: "Go On Vacation ft. Juls"

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But hey, Jews, was your baby before age.
I declare is my guy, but I'm notgonna lie.
Whoa, you don't like? Him and Tim's our family friend
now. Oh, Tim's baby too.
There's a lot of. Babies.
Oh man. That kids.
Daniel put out a song called Hello Baby.
Everybody wants to be baby. No, no, no.
Where's Kid loved his baby? I's not talking about his
Daniel. 'Cause he's not liked his baby
at one point, yeah. Daniel's going to some shit

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right now. Joe Boy, I felt loved his baby.
No, no, you have the baby. No, he loves it.
Babies. All the songs with babies and
all that he's making, that is true.
But Jews, baby was been going onfor a minute.
That's. What I'm saying, bro.
AG 9, we're gonna call AG. Oh, that's he's a family friend.
That's my guy. But I mean, when I when I
started seeing the AG baby should be boss like that.

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How are you out babying the baby?
And then when terms, you know, Icame with the scene unless,
yeah, right now is done. So yeah, crazy things are
happening. Exactly crazy things.
What happened? Oh man.
Jesus. Yeah, Dave, let us know when we
are Jesus. Yeah, you have it.
What a while. There's a lot of editing that's

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going to happen. Take this swig before.
Not a swig. Wow, is that too Uptown a word?
Why did things get quiet? I started sipping.
All right, I'm. Trying to remember what episode
this is. I'm very proud of you.
I feel like this is 89 or 90. Which?
89 Oh wow, you guys have done well because we haven't dropped

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two. You was also dropped an episode
today. I was, but that's how that we
drop it in the middle of the week.
OK. So we drop it tomorrow.
Yes. You're.
I also have to add add to add out a bunch of shit that.
Yeah. The repeat of that correct.
Yeah. So we we'll move forward.
Welcome everyone to episode 88 of Know How the podcast.

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This is your boy Toon Day, and I'm joined by Bau.
And we have a special special, yes Sir, from across the pond in
it, it's. A cry avenger?
Okay. Absolutely.
Fuck that. So.
They sound massive. Ashanti Associate Okay.
Ashanti associate. We say manchi the.
Tree tunnels, no. No, no, no.

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Not the tree tunnels, the God Terrorizer.
Not the tree tunnels. OK, fancy for in the building.
Oh. The ferocious fancy.
Ferocious fancy, OK? Fancy is the sexiest language.
The gig. The God Gigantic.
Yeah, If you speak, I notice that you're all about the
energy. God Giant.
I'm not mad at that intro. Give him, give him something

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for, you know, for the British side.
Yeah, give him something. Yeah, let's see.
Let's see your accent, bro. Which one?
Which one do you want me? Which one do you?
Want me to give give them which?One Do you want me to?
Work with all of them. All of them.
I'm trying to understand which one do you want me to work.
With what accent is this right now?
Hey, you didn't work. Work.
You didn't get to work. You're not working.
It's not working. It just worked.

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In his it's not working. It just worked, you know.
Good try, good try. Wasn't working out.
Thank you. That one.
He didn't understand what you were giving.
Sorry, please. You didn't understand.
Sorry, boys did not. Boys were not bring.
Thank you. Thank you.
All right. The one and only.

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He's not a baby, but he's. No, no, no.
You say it's. Jews, baby.
My best appreciate you guys. Are you feeling my?
Brother, good man. It's good to be back in New
York. It's been a minute, has he?
I feel like he'd be sneaking in for a party.
Yeah, he's sneaking for a party.In and out.
Pause. Yeah, Pause.
In and out. I was here.

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In April I spoke African Business Conference, Colombia,
yes. Yes, exactly.
Yeah. But yeah, I'm here now.
No, it's crazy. I hear what you're saying, but
I'm distracted by your pouch because you know, like, you know
how like the Gandhi is when theyhave, when they wear the Canton,

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they have their titty out, the one big, the strong, the.
Opposite of that you have your, your.
Your breast pocket is sitting ontop of your shirt.
Yeah, yo, Ghanaians are creative, man.
No, no, they it moves with tons.All about the best assist guys.
Yeah, those strong breasts has to be out, you know what I mean?
I'm more of the yams. I'm, I'm whoa.
I mean, I'm a yam. Of I think that.

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Yeah, I'm a yam engagement officer.
Oh, I see, my wife saying, OK, please, that was a little.
That was a weird, a weird Segway.
Cy 0. Chief.
I just want to Chief YAMS Officer, I mean.
Bres are OK. We like Bres both.
Yeah. Yeah, yams guy.
Yeah, but times, I mean, you know, sometimes it's the yams,

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sometimes it's the best. It just changes with time.
What if you could get both though the balanced diets?
I was about to say something. Then you can then.
Then there's always something missing, right?
There has to be something missing like.
That's because you see you unless.
Don't get to track by the Bbl's.No, that's no missing, no no cuz
then the BIOS. There's a pretty face, there's
the personality. I'm a pretty face guy.

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I'm pretty, so it all depends. I'm a pretty face plus yams.
OK. I mean, Jules, you y'all know
me. Yeah, I don't know what you're
about. Man of God character's also
important characters. Also, but it doesn't mean you
can't be aware I'm facing Bible now.
I'm facing Bible now. And the Bible actually says.
Not us doing knife to Jew. The Bible does say that you need
to pick your wife carefully. Yes now, yes now.

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But it says. Which he did.
You know, shout out, shout out to you, speak about.
That Congrats. Congrats on picking the right
one. It's not.
Guy's a family man. It's not easy.
It's not easy man. Guy's.
A family man. It's not easy.
How is how's family life like? Because, you know, we're single
man here trying to strive for. Who's he shot up there?
Are you married? To Jesus.

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Continue, Sir. Sorry.
Jesus is married to a lot of people.
Thank you. Look at you.
Sorry, look. I'm not selfish.
I can share my God. It's OK.
OK. Wow.
That's not so wrong. But yeah, yeah, yeah bro, you
know what? It's it's not easy.
I'm not even going to let you. I just feel like where I'm at in
my career, things just are steadily, like growing.

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So there's less time. So when you have less time, you
kind of like need to like plan your days like very, very well.
And that can be a struggle because it's like, alright,
today I have a session with Wizkid.
On a Tuesday, big up, big up higher, which can be like 2:00.

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So you plan the day accordingly and he gets to 2:00 and he's
like, or more. Let's make it 5.
He gets to five, then it's like 10.
I'm just like, yo, I kind of like, need to spend time, you
know what I'm saying? Right?
Even the rest of. So now what I've started doing
is just, I just chat to the engineers, shout out to Sam
Harper, I'm like, yo, Sam. When is my guy getting in the

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studio so that I know exactly what I couldn't do?
So you can plan or call it? Yeah, because it's not all vibes
anymore. You understand?
Must also happen. Yeah, you need to look, You
know, you need to be home. You need to make sure that
you're doing what you need to doat home.
And then you know you need to work because you need to put
food on the table. There's no food on the table.
Then you need to, you know what I'm saying?
So it's all about balance. It's very difficult, but you

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know. You know, it slowly gets in
there. You know, I think she will
probably disagree, but me personally, I feel like feel
like, yeah, I did well, right? I'm fine.
Shut up your mouth, I feel like.Useless shut up you.
Didn't do anything. Where's the thing a woman hits
you with? Sure.
And no lie That is happening right now as we speak.

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Oh, you're messing up on Aaron. Oh, I told you.
To buy this. So how you are you where did you
tell me to do that? Are you taking what's happening
so you don't get a little? Homie, to deal with that.
I forget. I forget a lot of things, so I
write everything down right now because I remember.
Do Task Manager or you just likedo you have an assistant?
Bro, I think I just have the best memory ever.
But I realized. I realized that now.

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It's not that. It's because it's not.
Really. Like like I'm really dumb so I
just forget everything bro. Like, you know, she told me
something maybe a few days ago. I was like, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You.
Told you say. And then she reminded me today,
and I was like, damn. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, done it.
Hadn't done it. Then she reminded me of another

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thing, and I just got upset. I was like, yo.
How could you do it? Like I've got shit going on, you
know what I'm saying? And now you're in trouble.
Exactly. The way you snap, you're in
trouble. You don't know what's going on.
Yeah, I'm saying. She couldn't do it.
She just wants you to do it. Thank you.
No. But then that's exactly what it
was when you tell her. Why couldn't you do it now?
You don't get a list of things, she.
Did with this. You have to know you got to

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apologize. And I watched your draws.
I got that. I got that.
I got that list. So right now I'm on probation.
Exactly. You know what I'm saying?
But you know we'll get out of jail soon.
Smoke. We.
We. I.
Picked up the groceries. I did.
You I We need the free juice. Sign the free juice.
The. Tshirts are being made.
The free jewels EPI really get you should make some get the get

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the get their power for the married men because they're men
that will feel you know understand the content you.
Know what's crazy right now I feel like in the game because
maybe a few years ago there's not a lot of guys, rappers,
producers, artists that were married.
They definitely had this situation.
But I feel like now everybody iskind of like settled.
But even though they are settled.

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You know, men will be men still doing, you know, in the streets
and stuff like that. However, we have a lot of
responsibilities, the kids involved and stuff like that, so
we're working extra hard. But you need to be honest and
say to yourself like the women are not going to see that at
all. Like, I can be in New York
having a show, right? And this is how it normally

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happens, like I could be DJ ING show is done then.
After the show, there's probablya section that is given to you
and it's like, let's just go popsome balls drinking, Let's just,
you know, enjoy the moments, right.
Then we have people snapping, ofcourse.
And then it goes on the you looklike you're having a good time.
And then home girl sees. It's just like, oh, I thought

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you were working. It looks like you're just buying
bottles for all the jazz in the section.
Enjoying life. I'm triggered.
Yeah, my God. It's actually happened to both
of us before, no. But the crazy thing is when you.
Look, you're trying to justify. You're trying to and it looks
like that, no? The pictures you look back at
the smart like, was this even worth it?
No. You like?

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I was actually just going home. Yeah, this year was not fun.
It wasn't even. Fun.
I should have just got off the stage and gone instantly.
Yo, you've been looking back like.
So now as an artist, you kind oflike how to, like, be very.
Careful of what you're giving tothe world, because you're not
even just giving. I love how we're.
Bonding. This is like a therapy.
Oh bro, I know exactly what you guys are going for.

(10:59):
Trust me. Now it's crazy, but we're happy.
We're happy, man. We're happy.
Man, you go through that now. No, I'm.
I'm home. I'm home.
See you learn. Chilling.
Learn from the No. I'm so.
I'm home in the fall, I'm out inthe fall, I'm home in the
summer. The.
Fall I'm Who's out in the fall? Exactly.
Wow. It's chill.
So it's, I'm not sure. It's food and museums, my

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brother, these parties. Are not I released.
Everyone's like Bower. What happened?
Summer is summer in. I can't.
I'm struggling to survive. Speaking of, summer is hot.
Oh my God, it's. Crazy.
It is wild. It was, well, 100 degrees when I
woke up this morning, bro. The world has an expiration date
and we know. It, but it's not like London.
Bro, it's not even Ghana, bro, because before I came, so I was

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in Ghana, in Kenya. But Kenya is cold right now.
But I was in Ghana for like a week.
I did a a workshop there for like 10 days and I went to
London. I was in London for like 3 days.
They just had a heat wave. So it was, it was, it was, it
was like, you know, a bit, you know, warmish.

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Then people were. Melting in their apartments, it
was warmish. When I got to Lai was like, yo,
what is this? Yeah.
At least they had the palm treesand stuff.
When I got to New York, I was like, yo, we.
Also had air condition. No.
But when I stepped out because the humidity, anytime, anytime I
come to New York and I was telling you about this earlier,
I always try and stay central sothat I can get access to

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everywhere. So I always in Manhattan, but I
made a conscious decision, yeah.Made a conscious decision that
you I need to be in Brooklyn because everything is happening
in Brooklyn. That's what I used to tell this
guy's like that's why are you inthe city.
It sounds right. If you it sounds right and.
So you yeah, the addresses and you're like, I'm here, I'm here.

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42nd whatever, whatever. So you're like, I need to be,
you know, whatever. But then when I realized a lot
of the gigs that I'll be doing and the means I'll be having
will be in Brooklyn, I'll just be like, yo, let me just get a
hotel in Brooklyn. So from now on.
Brooklyn Best Eye Biggie. Everybody's that's where the
Washington West. Yeah, that's what everything is
in Brooklyn. But good Ghanaian food, which

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is? I'm sure some of you go, yeah,
because the BX Uptown has the good Ghanaia, but nobody's.
Going to the BX. But it is I live.
I live in the Bronx. So I got the Bronx.
I'm, I'm, listen, I grew up in the Bronx, grew up in the
Ghanaian church, like this is like.
The Bronx, I get cracked. We get attacked.
We get attacked a lot because we're the last.

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We're going to be the last Worldto get gentrified, you know, I
mean, so this is of all the New York and you.
Haven't started a gentrification?
In the Bronx. No, no.
Small, small. It's like very where it begins,
where Manhattan meets Brooklyn, Bronx.
Is the case that's Bronx. No, no, trust me, it's still,
it's still, it's still lit in the Bronx.
But where Manhattan, the Bronx is where they're gentrifying

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first, like they're going to start there and go up.
Have they fully gentrified the heights yet?
No, But they took all the clubs out because they used to have
all the clubs years ago. But they called me you can.
Imagine what the club's like when the.
Remember, we did La Marina? Oh my God, this was. 20172820.
18 And Could you please tell thecamera, Huh.
Did you please tell the camera how much fun you didn't have?

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Yeah, it was. It was.
Yeah. Yeah.
Look, look sad. How was La Marina for you?
I think he was. No, you know what?
It does not matter. It was.
It was it was. No, Yeah.
I mean, it's close now, so yeah.So it doesn't matter.
Yeah, we didn't have fun. La Marina was never fun.
La Marina was sorry. That someone that doesn't have
restrictions, La Marina was fucking lit.
It was lit for you. That's what I'm thinking.

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Cuz like like Bronx is like there's no rules there.
No, no, no. Bronx is.
Bronx is great. I don't be outside in the.
Bronx The reason why it took me so long to leave Uptown is
because I just have so much fun at La Marina.
And Mama sushi, Mama sushi is a good place.
Apartment Set Apartments. So what?
The club is closed now. Done.
Yeah, most of the. What is it?
Yeah, I know they call. They call most of them for money
laundering. Wow, I didn't know that.

(14:53):
Yeah, there was. Let them not use this podcast as
evidence. No, they I heard this is what
they're saying. Allegedly.
I didn't read. Yeah, allegedly.
I'm sorry. Everything that was said earlier
is alleged. None of it is, Yeah.
Word on the street. Allegedly.
Indicted and shit, yeah, word is.
I have no idea. I have no idea what is going.
On we learned that La Marina wasthrough Know How The podcast
Now, but most of the clubs were closed down, though I don't know

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what happened. COVID.
No, no Pre. Code pre code.
I remember one day we were like,oh, let's, there's nothing to
do. Yeah, there's nothing to do.
They. Didn't announce it or nothing,
We just we couldn't. Get it?
We decided to go to the Bronx for someone's birthday.
No, no. La Marina's on the Bronx.
It's close, but it's not there. It's where it's like the border.
It's it's so weird. It's like super Uptown for

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Manhattan, but Holland right there where the it's past
Harlem. Yeah, it's where in wood.
Yeah. So it's but it's like it's right
there, but it's just at the edgeof Manhattan, so.
Technically, after Manhattan is.Watch.
I mean, watch. It is, yeah.
It's hard to because the thing with my hand is my hand's
Harlem, a bunch of neighborhoods.
It's Harlem, then it's the Heights, then it's in Wood,

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right? It's the Bronx.
Yeah, I think, yeah, it's it's weird.
My hand is this weird Long Island, so it's like parts of
it, you can cut to the monks early or keep going and meet up
at it, yeah. Because it's like, weird.
Yeah, it's like the Bronx does this.
Just a weird Crescent. It ain't that deep.
It ain't that deep. But just know the heights.
Ain't the Heights no more. It's, it's going.
So everything is Brooklyn now. So everybody ready to go down

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Brooklyn? Yeah, so.
Everybody that lives in Brooklyn.
It's expensive here though. It's it's insanely expensive.
Even the Bronx, that supposedly hasn't been gentrified.
The numbers are going up. So because now everyone could
work from home, so people don't necessarily have to be in the
city or. Close to their job, so people
are moving to the Bronx as well to live in the Bronx.

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Downtown Brooklyn is like the It's like the Marlabone.
Downtown Brooklyn is like the Malibu.
That's very push. Then.
Ohh. Downtown Brooklyn.
Yes, Yeah, yes. Barclays.
Well, everything. Downtown Brooklyn.
Yeah, Barclays, the Barclays area will kind of like what?
Is Burgers like White City? I think Barclays Center will

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kind of like be our shortage. No, not at all.
In terms of when shortage is messy and like everybody's.
Actually, they actually, you have a point, because shortage
used to be grungy as fuck. And so did.
Downtown Brooklyn right now shortage is just like everybody
is there. Everybody is outside.
So it's not as. Nah, but that's like Fort.
Green. Fort Green and Bed Stuy,

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Everybody's outside like Barclays.
Barclays is like one place that people congregate, which would
be like, I don't know, I don't know how to explain it.
Actually. To me, it's more like I.
Take I take that. Back It's more like Brixton.
Brixton is like Barclays census like.
It's like Brixton cuz You have the Brickston Academy though
too, yeah? And Soho, your Soho is more like

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our shortage. We have ours, yes, but our Soho
is like very posh. So I want to say that our Soho
is like. Yours.
There. You go absolutely.
Yeah, maybe also. Your City of London would be
like Fight Eye. Yeah.
Yeah, where I live, right? Now you gotta bring Baller to

(18:08):
London. No and just do.
Nothing. I never been.
No, I I don't enjoy going to London.
Why? I have a lot of family in
London. I spent years in London.
He needs to come. I'd rather go.
If I'm try, I'd rather go to other countries than Europe.
And London. So, whole farmhouse.
You need to come to the last time I was in London I almost
got stabbed three times in one week.
OK, what were you doing to almost get stabbed?
Because it's very hard to get. Let's talk.

(18:29):
Let's talk about it. Where were you?
It's very hard to get knifed up in.
London, Where were you? What's?
What's the in the carnival or? The I didn't hill.
I was. I was about to say, yo,
carnival, yeah. Who did you offend?
I'm. I'm a peaceful, loving from the
Bronx. Why did someone want a knife?
You lead with love. Why did someone a knife?
It was just it was just a bunch of people in the same place.

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And obviously, are you in the wrong place at the wrong time?
My brother, that's your problem.I made it out alive from my I
don't want to be hospitalized innobody else's country.
No. You know what?
Yeah. Why?
Victim blame me, He is victim blaming me, isn't he?
No, no, no, no. You were at the wrong place.
Did you send boys to my wing? No.

(19:11):
Wow, because bio doesn't seem tobe well, he's from the Bronx,
but he doesn't seem to be that guy who looks for trouble.
I don't know. So the Bronx and me got me out
of. Allegedly right, but just being
in a crowded. Place being smart and be like
yo, I get the hell out of exactly, exactly.
So it was one of the situation Iwas.
One one thing about one thing. One thing about Smacked was.

(19:32):
Your cousin engaging with them? No.
This is the thing though. Why?
To get smacked. He got smacked.
I'm getting excited because if you smack somebody, I'm ready.
You know what I mean? And he kept telling me to get.
It was dudes trying to flex whatever it is.
That your cousin flex back? Yes.
OK, so he he gets why are you flexing?
And now I'm like, fuck it. Ah, the story has just changed.

(19:54):
No, you asked for details. No, no, no.
This is the way you said no, no,listen, now they flexed for
people just minding their business, so that's the wrong
place at the wrong time because we're chilling so.
You're saying they just came up to you?
They have more people and we're chilling in a They just came up
to you. No reason.
I. Swear to you?
No reason. Unless there's some.
Cousin didn't talk unless no, I swear your cousin lives there.

(20:16):
Yeah, So unless there's some history, there was a man.
Unless this listen. But I'm chilling.
Your cousin's car. Yes, passenger.
They knew your cousin. Where's your cousin from?
Where's he live? Catherine.
Oh yeah, Catherine. Yeah, they knew your cousin from
Southeast. There's nothing really going on
there. There's nothing.
Just lives there. Like families from Lewisham,
Catherine, that area. Oh, like, no, he's not from

(20:38):
Lewisham, but he's from. I have a bunch of family in
Lewisham. Oh.
Like I have the address in my head, I have the house number.
Like I that's how often I'm in London when you still have to
remember house numbers when you go out and you make call like.
You said it like from teams meetor some shit.
No, no, no, no. But this is what I'm saying.
I can't be in certain situationsbecause I'm gonna get excited.

(20:59):
So I stay away from the like, I'm not the one.
You have to dole things down if things are escalation.
Is violence though, right? Yeah.
I mean, it's not. It's not his moments.
A lot of, a lot of, yeah, there's there's some, there's
some areas. Static solution.
And you know, I've been in London and my I'm not, I'm not
really from South, so I don't really know the ins and outs of

(21:20):
that. When I'm there, my incentives
are up. When I do out, yeah.
Well, I'll say this to you bro, like.
Croydon is the most S that. Maybe I got to go to other parts
of London and enjoy it, but the parts I'd be at, it's.
Croydon's like Narnia. It's a whole another place,
yeah. I I refuse to get involved in
the Croydon banter cuz I have Croydon friends and you know
they probably. I don't even want you to enter.

(21:42):
Shout outs to everybody in Croydon.
You're thumbs up, you're all, you're all amazing, especially
the ones in South Croydon. Shout outs to all of you, but
yeah, I I urge you to come back,you know.
Because what part of London should I go to the?
Part that you're not around yourcousin and we're not gonna get
stopped up because it's from Sunday comes today is always in
Kensington or shortest you're saying in the breezy places

(22:02):
that's where. You need that D That's.
I have family there, so I'm always kicking them with family.
Whoa, that might be the problem.Go to shortest.
Go to Kingston's in the next time I eat places.
Because every time I come, as soon as I come to London, I kick
it with him for 1-2 days and I just country hot or stay with
us. I go to Greece.
I love chilling in Greece. Be essential peace.
But I'm gonna go to London more next time.
You wanna go Greece I. Love being in Greece.

(22:23):
It's a nice thing. Mika Nos is kind of sexy.
You don't enjoy in Greece. I've never been.
Ha, so now we have to do Noah Hala retreat.
What European countries have youbeen to that's not Okay?
Sweden, Belgium, Denmark, Germany.

(22:44):
Yeah, Italy, that's about it, you know.
Alright, we're having Croatia. No, in Europe.
Croatia. Cyprus, yeah.
You never did Yacht Week, no. Hey, what's we, Will?
Fix it, don't worry. So where have you been that
didn't have to do with work workwise?

(23:05):
All those places I mentioned is all.
No, didn't have to do with work.Like when what are your.
I feel like you're not taking a lot of vacations here because
every time I see Jules, even when he's about to do a gig.
He looks like he's thinking about four or five steps ahead.
Yeah, bro, like I saw Jews in Accra last year, right?
And this was right before Afrotella.

(23:25):
Afrotella is not the event itself, the speaking event that
he did. The panels.
And it's yeah, the panels. And I'm looking at Jews walking,
yeah. I'm in the background.
Trust. Me, I actually tried to
introduce y'all, but you were. Yeah, I'm in the background.
I said what up to him? But he's like, this is tunnel
vision and I could tell he's like, no.
No, no, you were. It does.

(23:46):
It was good. Though this is family
conversation, No, no, I'll tell you why.
That needs to change. And it's interesting you brought
this up because you're asking mewhat places have I been to for
vacation? I haven't been on a vacation for
a minute. The last vacation was Jamaica,
and even Jamaica I was working, so it wasn't.
It wasn't vacation. And then no, me and the misses

(24:08):
have been on a couple of vacations.
We've been we've been to some places in Portugal, we've been
Mexico. But these were even times when
things weren't as crazy. Now things are crazy.
I just feel like I didn't. Even have too much going on and
even Italy. The last time I went to Italy
was with my family. Like my whole family, I didn't
even meet my misses here. This is when we were young.

(24:30):
I went to Ferenci. Florence, Florence Man, I must
what is that? I can't even remember.
But this was years ago. But Paris, Sweden, all these
places, this is literally like like Paris was Fashion Week.
Sweden was part of the club minithe mini club.
So that I'm doing. And then Germany is on the books

(24:53):
for another, you know event. Cyprus as well, Portugal as
well, so. I just thought of a great idea.
Yeah, because you're not the only, you're not the only one I
know that has said that. Like I when I travel, it's for
work. We, I never have taken a
vacation. We should plan a retreat where
all people we know that don't take breaks should.
Have they're gonna be networkingthat's another thing they.

(25:16):
Have to shut. They're gonna be.
That's the problem, they. Have to shut their phones off
for at least three days. They're not gonna be able to.
Wow. That's so my next question to
you now, when was your last day off?
Day off because I have issues with this, so I'd I'd like to
know like because my days off. Like it starts off with me
guilting myself for taking a dayoff and then I sneak some

(25:38):
working and then I go back to it.
So I want to know like what's today?
So today a lot. Today, for example, right?
I was supposed to do a whole bunch of things and I was trying
to do Studio. I wanted to do studio, you know,
today. But I just said to myself, now
let me just let me just relax. So today, and you see it's even
still work. Now that I think about it,

(25:59):
because I called today, I was like, yo, I'm looking for a
vinyl store. Oh wow.
I got a good one. If you need one, I'm looking for
a vinyl store. I don't mind going to the Bronx
because I'm sure you guys will have some.
Drinks and stuff because I collect vinyls now.
So every time I bought some vinyls from this place called

(26:19):
Legacy which is on Water St. andoh that's a good one.
Just on the Dumber, Dumber. But even me listening to the
music feel like work because I'mlistening to the music like OK,
I can sample this shit to make some beats.
So then again it's working it but.
So what's the answer like? Take your time and think about
it, bro. That's what I'm saying.

(26:39):
Because no, we all go. Even after after I went to the
vinyl, after I went to the vinylshop, I went to Dumbo house.
I was like, you know, let me just get some food and some
drink and let me just just relaxand then just get like lits and
you know, you're all, yeah, thatwas my day off today.
Okay. Literally.

(27:00):
No, people don't get a lot of days off cuz I'm I think I told
you this. This is why I took a break last
year. I was doing food heavy, like I
was catering events and all thatand then it hit me like month
seven that I haven't cooked for myself.
What? Like you're making.
Food for others. I was doing events, gigs, gigs,

(27:21):
gigs, days off I'm running. So you're a chef as well?
Yeah yeah, I cater events is where I'm doing food so it hit
me like 7 months. I haven't cooked for myself like
all I eat at home are either ordering or leftovers from the
events. That doesn't even make any
sense. But that's what.
But you were playing music and that just made me remember that.
That's that's. What I'm saying like when was

(27:41):
the last time you're vibing out and not, oh, this would be
fired, When were you talking about this?
A few minutes ago. That's what I'm saying.
So this is I was literally saying.
We talk mental health, so this is part of that.
Audio fatigue. Like it's it's listening to all
of these records at least every single day there's a message
that comes to like, yo. This would be a fire sample.
I have this guy, you know. I think you like him.

(28:06):
But a boom but a Bing. And I'm just like sometimes I
just feel like right now we can't even enjoy listening to
music anymore. It's like you can't or you need
to find. You need to find the zone.
It's. Like people that direct movies.
I know a bunch of people that like.
When you come in. School.
They are working for a bunch of different movie studios.
They put out movies. They can't go to the movies and

(28:28):
just watch a movie without detecting everything wrong,
right? I know, I know a guy like that.
He goes to the movies. There's a VFX error or somebody.
There's a glitch. Oh, he blinked his eye too many
times. Because I know a guy like that
who is like, yo, this movie. I was like, yo, how what do you
think about this movie? I was like, oh man, I thought

(28:49):
the camera angles will be. I'm like.
Bro. Really.
Body. Kids like it's.
Too technical there. Yeah, and it'd be those same
people too, that'd be at the club judging transitions.
I do that, so why? I do that as well, no.
But I me bro, I've stopped. I've legit stopped because
whenever I'm with my guys once the transitions but everyone be
like. Just look at each other.
And I'm. When are we just going to enjoy

(29:11):
stuff? Yeah, you know, like when.
I mean, it's hard to enjoy when the transitions are not really
on point. Though this actually happened
recently, but where were we whenthis happened?
I don't want to say people, people, yeah, when I'm out and
whoever. Is trying to.
Do the DJ we were at a function.No, he's going to say wasn't me,
Don't no, don't you. Weren't even in the country yet,
but we were at a function and the music was not sweet.

(29:33):
And we kept looking at each other because we knew, OK, if
this continues, we're probably giving ourselves 5 minutes
before we leave, right? Everybody else that's in our
friend group knows us. If the music is trash or like,
there's a weird transition. They look at us to like, how
long are you guys staying here? Because I can't.
We can't be in the room for bad music.
But can I say with that situation like that, right?

(29:53):
And I'm just going to speak for like DJ's in general.
Like, sometimes it's very difficult for DJ's to kind of
like read the room and see what exactly the vibe is.
Because you could. No, I'll give you, I'll give
you, I'll give you, I'll give you an example, right.
So, so far, since I've been, I've done Oakland, I've done LA,
I've done New York and I've doneDC, right?

(30:15):
So I did Oakland, right. And I've done Oakland before and
the energy was crazy. But this time Oakland was a bit
like it was a vibe. It was a bit of a mix.
So you need to cater to every single person in that room.
Absolutely, Lai didn't know whatto expect because I'm like, yo,
LA is very like, it's LA, right?LA was crazy.

(30:39):
And I was so surprised at how LAwas.
New York was lit. DC Boozy as hell, yeah.
That's the professional everybody standing on the wall
waiting for someone. I'm like, yo, what is going?
On the Black Professionals now and I had a one hour sales like
yo, it's getting to almost 5 minutes.
So I'm about to rap. I'm like shine at the next DJ.
Yo come take off because. You should have played a Ted

(30:59):
talk. If you play Ted Talk, they would
have went no. It's black professionals.
In there or some go go music. If you tell them how to get
LinkedIn followers. But the crazy thing about this
DC gig is because you know, it'srun by, you know, some Africans
as well. So there were patches of
Africans, but there were also patches of like some African
Americans, I guess maybe some Haitians and some Caribbeans as
well. So I'm literally trying to take

(31:20):
everybody through a journey by playing everything all together
at the same time. But it's tough.
Bro, DC is a weird and when it'stough, the DJ is under pressure
and when the DJ is under pressure, sometimes the
transitions might be like fuckedup.
Yeah, you're over thinking because you're over thinking
like, yo, the energy is not crazy.
Oh my God, everybody. But my thing is, I'm not gonna
say nothing to the DJ, right? But should we just stay there?

(31:45):
Everything you guys are saying is is accurate, but what I want
to remind you is the DJ we're talking about was not Jules.
It wasn't anyone that is even close.
But everybody should tell the chance is what he's saying.
No, I don't think that's what hewas saying.
I think that I think that he wasexplaining why certain D J's
could underperform even if they're really, really good.
So I just wanted to be very clear.
Oh, no, I know. I'm referring to was not good.

(32:08):
Oh wow. Like even if the crowd was super
fucking turn. But do you think if a DJ is so
bad and you're with the right people, it could be the best
night of your life? Ironically, yes, you can be
making fun of the DJ. No, I've seen it.
You could be making fun of the DJ bad.
How? Like they could be so bad.
Like, I've seen people. It happened to me recently.
I went to Ghana, I went to this place, yo, We were lit.

(32:31):
Me and my cousins, few friends, and then some people came to
join us. We had, you know, Henny,
Champagne, Everything was blessed.
The DJ was just, you know, the DJ, bro.
The DJ plays Céline Dion, bro. No.
And yeah, we like, you know, like it was some crazy stuff and
I'm just like, yo, Nah, bro. But we were lit.

(32:51):
If I'm trying to catch some twerks and the DJ puts on, my
heart will go on. I'm throwing hands.
No, listen, there was Céline Dion, there was Britney Spears
in the mix. So the girls are like, I'm like,
like the DJ is not really playing what we want to play.
But I'm like yo, but we're lit though, so let's just have the
time about it if. I'm trying to catch twerks to
all that divided yo do feel all right and it and it's.

(33:12):
Don't give up on your face. I'm out of there.
Bro, in the in the you can catchthe twerks on that.
I'm not catching torques to Céline Dion.
It's all in the. Mind bro.
Hey, shock with hey, and that's the way I got to listen to one
leg. Keep, damn it.
Can happen now. That's what I'm saying.
Oh, you got to be you got to be with.

(33:34):
You're being you're doing this. No days off.
This is no shame on you. No shame.
Enjoy. The music at first you.
You're enabling, you're enabling.
The This is charts and it. Gets dominated for a Grammy.
I don't want to hear nothing. He can take a day off from a
Grammy I know it's called. This is the thing in Canada.

(33:55):
She's from Toronto, right? She's.
From Canada. Well, I don't think Toronto.
She's not from Toronto, but she's from Canada, yeah.
I think she's on Dream I. Think she might be from Montreal
like she's from. I think she's.
Quebec front of the French side.She speaks Quebec.
OK. Whatever you said I.
Speaking of Speaking of whateveryou sent him back to sender

(34:15):
Jules, how do you pronounce the brand name of this sneaker slash
trainer for all the UK folk out here?
What brand of sneaker? Me.
Personally, I've been saying Nikes the whole time.
Bowel, but one of my one of my virgins was like Nike.
Bowel. What brand of sneaker do I
happen to be wearing right now? Nika.

(34:35):
You are knowing Nika. I think we need to get down to
the root of why UK locks call things differently than how the
originator of. Right.
Because Nike is an American brand.
So we could fight that one. Adidas, I'll give it to you
because they say very aggressive.

(34:57):
But they also say Adidas, Adidas, Adi Dasler.
Yeah, German. You guys say Adidas, right?
Yeah, we do, unfortunately. So we're the opposite.
We pronounce Adidas wrong. Y'all pronounce Nike wrong.
It's actually very. It's actually like, nice.
Yeah, it's actually like you can.
It's just for me personally. It's healthy.
It's healthy relation, yeah. Me personally, me personally, I

(35:18):
just find a way to just say Nikes.
Oh yeah, you got bare Nikes. You know, it's just.
Bare Nikes, but I've been sayingNike for a while and I guess
maybe because because I have a lot of American cousins as well.
So when I hear it, that's what's.
That's what comes out, yeah. Yes, but Adidas is what we say.
Yeah, it's really those two brands.
I just. Feel like that's a road man
slang, probably. I just took over where you get

(35:40):
it because why would you Nikes? Yeah, I feel like that's
something one person in one, butthen with slang is if a cool
person says it. It sounds cool, even if when you
say it, you think you don't think you're cool.
Like that cool person that said.It that's the sounds Like
documentary, who was the first one to call it Nike because it
started somewhere, Because the company is.
Always branded by that. Because the company's always

(36:02):
been Nike. But I don't understand why UK
people are like it's Nike. I'm sure everybody, says Nike.
In the UK, everybody I know, says Nike.
You're the only person from the UK I know that does not
pronounce. That's interesting.
Maybe I'm not UK enough, but I've always been saying that.
You're also W African UK. No, not even.
I like that though. Trans.
UK Trans. He's trans, Ganian.

(36:23):
I'm a heavy trans. Yeah, he's trans.
I've been claiming Ghana since forever.
No Ghanaian relation, though. You sure?
I haven't done my test yet. I'm gonna find out.
I might have the house side. So if the house is there, then
I'm gonna just bring it back. No, tell him your tell me your
Ashanti name. It's quite cool now.
Quite cool, yeah. I'm Wednesday born, yeah.
Unfortunately, let's say unfortunately, bro.

(36:46):
No, no, unfortunately I haven't been able to claim my Ghanian
heritage the way he has. But I would have been if I was.
You wanna say there? Okay, why would you not want to
be Ghanian Is the thing. You know, I get it.
I just don't eat eggs with a traveler.
I don't. You see it too, too.
I don't eat eggs. Enough, you know.

(37:06):
Let me tell you something about this action.
I was waiting for, but it's not every God name that he's egg
bro, but you guys need to let this thing go.
No, no, this is Jesus. Christ, no.
No. I'm trust me, I.
Love my gun again dog. No, no, no.

(37:27):
I need some. I need to do some.
Things with jokes. When was the last time you had
boiled egg? I don't eat egg, bro.
When's the last time you had fried eggs?
I don't eat eggs. Bro at all at all bro.
You. Know what I realized?
Jewels has not gone in. No.
Yes, I don't, but let. Me tell you why?
Because no, Jewels is Jewels is like a Unicorn in all of the

(37:49):
cultures that he's a part of. In the UK, he doesn't.
He says Nike. He says Nike.
In Ghana, he doesn't. Want like egg, But he's watching
you. Can't you?
Can't you? Can't you have shit on your
fridge? Absolutely.
I saw you Good. There's nothing else you gotta
prove to me. He's a Terminator.
No, no, no. As a gun in If you don't have
shito and rice in your household, you failed.
No, Yeah, I'm with you. Rice, especially, that's Matty.

(38:09):
Very. Important.
Yeah. If it's Jasmine, slap yourself.
Yeah, that's Matty Rice. It can't be that long going.
Shit bro, I'm probably going to get a lot of stick for this, but
I don't give a fuck. Episode title but not that long
range. Shit, but I suppose, but then.
But Matty Rice and Shito definitely has to be in the
house. Of constants because shito goes

(38:31):
on everything. Everything, Bro.
You could have bro tell me that you have shito on your fridge.
Bro guy? Absolutely.
And it has. It has to be wrapped in, you
know, the little forwards to make sure it doesn't, yeah, look
like you. Know I grew.
Up eating I grew up eating Bancoand K&K.
So. It was always she tore around.
What were you having your kinky with, though?
Huh. I've had it with Contemurish to

(38:54):
eat. I know you see that, right?
I see my guy. I mean, that's wrong though.
But someone as someone I eats like a goosey and things like
that. I like the bank.
The bank who is supposed to go with the console, right?
Now look, I'm not Ghanian. I'm just telling you how I used
to eat, but that's that's messed.
Well, yeah, tell me that's like,that's like, that's like.
Tell me I'm supposed to eat it. That's like give the Nigerian
reference. Let's It's not even a Nigerian
reference like you try to find aAmerican.

(39:16):
That's like eating ramen with Fruity Loops or something crazy
like that. Or it's like having chicken and
milk and dumping the chicken andthe milk.
Damn, how do that? What if?
I mean no Sir. No, please don't.
This is how diseases are made. By uncle.
That's by uncle. You have it with Aucos to you.
Okay or consummates to your fufu, you have it with soups and

(39:38):
the soups that we have in Cats and quine.
And cats. And Quine is my wave.
You know, in cats. Yo, you mentioned yo.
You mentioned it on now. No, but because he was, he was.
Look. How do I?
How do I anyway? No, no, I'm losing my chain.
I'm losing my chain of thought. Yo, because I was getting
emotions. Fufu and cats and quine, right?
Or, you know, light soup. The rice wall goes with the in

(40:00):
Captain quieter. Yeah, I'm saying that's.
My or the light soup? Chicken light soup with soup.
I love light soup. I love light soup as well.
You know, full food, chicken light soup or you know palm nut
soup can come in. I've never had that as well,
but. You.
Yeah, palm nut soup is very techie bro.
Like if you don't cook palm nut soup very well.
In fact, if you don't cook all the soups in general, especially
palm nut soup and grand nut soup, you will die.

(40:22):
Because if you don't cook it youneed to heat it properly.
I remember when I was a kid, my mom always used to say.
Make sure you heat it properly, yeah, cuz you know the oil.
Otherwise yeah, all that is yourcuz the stomach will be fucked.
Yeah, if you make it with the American oil it might be
different, cuz they don't. Begin and you know they use
especially palm, not oil. They use a lot of the oil from
the palm as well. So you know what?
I'm not gonna do eat any of that, no.

(40:43):
That's anyways, any food here? No cuz I even the peanut soup.
You know what? You just did.
It doesn't taste the same. It's like when you go to certain
Japanese restaurants, it's like,yeah, yeah, try this fish.
But you know, if you eat the wrong part of this, you're dead.
You'll die because this, but no,it's.
It's delicious. Eat it.
That's. Why I don't go to the Japanese
restaurant? Are you a sushi person or
anything like that? Nah, don't do.
That was good. Sushi but I.

(41:04):
Can't tell us of my job. Can people them do?
That's what I eat. Though, but I can't.
Oh, I also eat. Sorry.
Anyways, no, no, it's. Fine.
No, everything's fine. Japanese, Chinese, and Thai and
all that. Oh, you don't do any other Asian
dishes, OK? My wife likes Chinese.
That's so I can tolerate Chinesebut everything.
So you haven't done Thai? I've done it before, but how
about Korean BBQ? None of that.

(41:26):
It's not for. You don't eat Korean food you
haven't had. Korean.
Fried chicken. I have.
So you'd be. I have There's a Korean.
There's a Korean sport near. What's this, guys?
St. Pancras, St.
Pancras. There's a Korean sport there
where I had some chicken. There, it was pretty, yeah.
They make really good fried chicken like.

(41:47):
Fried. Cross.
Yeah, exactly. Ken's Cross.
You know exactly what I know about.
Yeah. There's a there's a restaurant
there. I forgot the name but they make
some I. Had a memory that you you by
what? I knows that when I make certain
phases and goes on, there's the memory attached to when I
realized something. Yeah, I'm on my business.
I ain't. She was going here.
I mean, I'm sure she was. Ohh, I'm sure.
Saint Pancras Yeah. Ohh wow.

(42:09):
Jesus is Lord. She's indeed.
We're going to move on. Indeed, we're going to move on,
because this can only go. So, oh, what I was saying I
didn't want to. I wanted you to finish your
thought. But we're going back to that.
The reason why Bible knows all these things is because he was
in a very healthy entanglement with someone from your hands.
From London. No, no, no.

(42:29):
From the other ends. What did she do?
She broke her heart. Wow.
Breakfast was served. It's Mike.
Breakfast was served. Yeah, you.
Know last, last we go there and breakfast.
And it was just pizza. Oh, yeah, We're family.
We're good. No beef.
I don't beef for any. Oh.
No, there's no beef. You don't be with the Exes, and

(42:51):
I don't have Exes. I don't have.
I don't have. I don't date people down my
friends. I did that once and I regretted
it. I have had.
I recently had a change of heart.
I used to agree with you there. But I think that for peace,
sometimes you have to sever it. Oh no, we're not chopping it up
daily, but we have a healthy relationship.
That's good for you. There are some from my.
I don't. I can't even chop it up.
I feel like. I feel like people have to know

(43:12):
when to end it. Some people drag things up and
that's where hate begins. But once you realize it's not
going where it should be, I feellike a healthy end is good for
both parties. I don't have the respect is
still there, but I don't have you.
Guys are good people. No.
Yeah, I don't. I don't.
My thing is I the anger hate like it takes a lot of memory
space so my. Don't take energy, and that's

(43:34):
what I don't want to give. What if you just what?
What if you just erase it from your memory now, but when you
see them, what's that you're about, demon?
And you're not going to see themwhen you're up, though.
Talk that talk, Talk that talk. Jules is giving big.
You're about Demon energy and I love.
That that was that was that was that.
Was all good. Well done, well done.
I like that. I like the dog, yeah.
Wait, wait, wait. Me personally, he said he said

(43:54):
broke up. X, he said.
Broke up. They broke.
He said I'm up, he said. He said I'm up.
They broke Tokyo talk. That's what you said.
I didn't say that, I. Personally want to say that of
the drafts, but I respect you said broke up.
I. Broke up Jules mentions about be
on fire to. Be honest with you broke and and
I've never even told this story.You guys are probably the first
you know to hear this. I've never said this.

(44:16):
I've never said this. Please don't get into trouble.
No, no, no. It's not even a trouble thing,
but I feel like there was a relationship that was in.
Which traumatized me like so badthat it kind of like affected me
as a person, you know, going forward.
That was actually one of the main reasons why I left Ghana.

(44:36):
So background story I was born, raised in London.
My parents, my dad got a great job in Ghana.
So we moved to Ghana when I was pushing like 1011 did secondary
school, secondary school, did myuni there and.
I just moved back to London, butthe reason why I moved back to

(44:56):
London predominantly is because there was a situation that just
fucked my head up like crazy. Do you want to talk?
About the situation. Absolutely.
No, I'm not. I'm not.
I'm not. I'm not gonna give that person.
That's the big thing. But like it was, it was mad to
the point where it affected me as a person in terms of
relationships, Not even just with women, just with people in

(45:16):
general. Just didn't trust people shook
your character. Always.
Like, even bro. Even.
I won't even lie to you. Maybe even till this day.
It's still there. But then I think as I've gotten
older, it's just more of like, just let it be.
I feel like the last couple years has literally just been if
there's a situation where I'm just like, it's a bit techie,
I'm not going to have my antennas up.
So if like I'm expecting something from Bauer and then

(45:39):
Bauer goes quiet, maybe three years ago, I'll just be like, I
don't trust this. But then now I'm just like.
Just let it be. If it happens, it happens, and
then chances are that bow will come back to me.
If he doesn't come back to me, it is what it is.
Maybe it was busy. Maybe he had.
His life. Life happens.
That's the one thing I've gottenused to as I've gotten older.

(46:01):
Because sometimes you'd be goingthrough it too, where you're
like struggling to keep up with people.
So now when people, if it's a day, two days, some dude I ain't
here for from three weeks, he was like, yo, I lost the family
member I've been going to. I'm like, yeah, thank God I
ain't even overreact on you going ghost now because.
If you overreact, it's kind of like you even look stupid like.
I so yeah, because you don't even know what's going on.
I also think that as a people, Ithink African as well W

(46:23):
Africans. Anxiety is just the way of life.
Like living in an anxious state of mind is like the norm for us.
Very anxious, yeah. So for those, yeah, we're not as
chill as. Well, yeah, I'm not going to.
I'm not going to say. I'm not going to say that, I'm.
I'm not an actions person, but there was definitely period in

(46:44):
my life where I was like you in that, in that space where it's
like, damn, every you're readingover, reading into everything
you're saying. You're extra paranoid about
things. You're just reading situations
wrong because your head isn't clear.
But thanks to therapy, you know,I think we're we're really being
tired to happy my people. Therapy is needed.
Right therapy is listen. It's literally saved my life.

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So I was talking about that situation, but like because it
messed me up so bad, right? It's one of those things where I
literally just swept everything under the carpet, right, And
just literally forgotten about it.
But there's certain instances that spark the memory.
So I would probably, it could beme going to Ghana and seeing

(47:28):
someone that would remind me of that situation.
Or it may come up in conversation like just randomly
and I'm just like, yo, this is putting me in a crazy place.
And I need to get rid of this before I even get into a
committed situation. Because if I go into a committed
situation with this mindset, it's literally going to affect

(47:49):
her and then my family and everything.
So I I was. I started taking therapy.
That's a beautiful thing. Love that for you and and and
and and. I didn't do it for too long
because I also felt like the therapist wasn't able to connect
exactly with what. It wasn't.
The right connection. It wasn't the right connection.
It's like dating. Finding a therapist is like
dating. It may be, it may be cool, but

(48:11):
it may not be the right match. Exactly.
So that's what it was with the theory people then I think with
time, you know, I think those sessions encouraged me to do
different things that could kindof like, you know, you need to
just, you know, just calm down. So, you know, reading a lot.
You know just. Winding down a bit and even

(48:33):
having conversations you know with your people about it as
well. Because with guys one thing
about men is, and I'll tell you guys, you know when you guys get
in your your your your your situations, God willing when you
guys get married and have kids, hey man, to that you guys will
realize that you are going to bewith your missus 24/7, right?

(48:55):
But then as men, you kind of like need to go outside and
then, you know, see. Things from a different
perspective. You know, you just need to go
outside. You just need your piece of
mind. Guys need that.
And if you have a woman who's going to allow you to do that,
that's great. But then sometimes what happens
is guys may have a woman that don't allow them to do that.
So they sneak out and they're doing the madness and then it
just turns into something, you know, crazy, you understand.

(49:17):
So it's always important that you guys have that point and
that understand and then you communicate with her or him if
that's how you swing, just so that you know there's that kind
of like mutual understanding andthere's no.
You know issues because when it gets deep and deep and when I
say deep in terms of the years that you guys are together, it

(49:38):
could even get worse. It's better than you are able to
figure these things out now rather than later.
Now I'm going to speak on that definitely.
I think I dated this one girl asI talk to you know who I'm
talking about. But she basically made me a
better liar because it was like,it was just like dealing with
somebody that you had to hide stuff from all the time, right?

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And next, you know, you're creating a habit of hiding
things. I see.
And then I think that's the onlyperson that I've dated.
Because that's the only person that I've dated that I would say
wasn't a friend before I dated them.
Because there's just no that, not that eye to eye moment.
No, I'm about to do this and shedoesn't feel like, cuz when
you're into entertainment, you have a lot of women around you.
It's just like the more rugged people or women 80% of the time,

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like just straight, straight up.It is what it is.
So you keep good women around you, you're probably going to
make it further standard. It is what it is.
So it's like, but she was just not comfortable with it and
next, you know, I'm like. How do you feel about keeping
the crazy women around you, though?
I'll tell you this, I've been very blessed.
I have never ran into one. Wait, hold on.
Reask the question. Crazy women.

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I crazy. I don't know.
I don't have. I've heard you.
So in in other words, like. Okay.
Maybe I should use a different word.
A woman who is like, ready to like, do it for the vine.
I don't be around there. I have so my.
Maybe you haven't entertained it?
No. She's definitely been around.
I have a very strong discerning spirit.

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Right you. Talking about relationships or
like friends. Just circle it could be.
It could be a situation where. We have, we have someone.
In the IT could be a. It could be a situation where
you're with the. I push that out.
You. You're with.
You could be with a girl and it's not even a relationship.
You're with a girl, it's not even a relationship.
But then there's another girl who knows that you're with that
girl and there's a situation, but that girl is like, I don't

(51:31):
give a what are? You thinking?
About never mind. Not me, because I don't like one
thing is, I'm a sister's on you.Oh yeah, and within 5 seconds
like I meet you, boom, I DAP youup my like straight up let you
know there's nothing. And when that happens, you don't
get the vibe of the killed, thataid.
You know about the sisters on me.

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What's up? It's it's not going anywhere.
Oh. Then it's not like, listen, I
dub shit quick, All my people know that.
I dub shit quick. Nothing.
That's a good spirit to have. Nothing like I'm very thankful
this, like if I feel your energywithin 3 seconds, if it's love,
support, whatever it is, I might.
Being a fan of somebody I think is dope.
We don't got to be close, but ifit's funny, and This is why I

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enjoy having like multiple streams of income because I
don't have to go this path with you, you know?
I mean, if I got to go home and cook for six straight months and
not being music, I'll happily doit box.
Because if you like music, you don't want to be in music.
Everyone knows that. So it's like trust.
Multiple streams of income actually do help it.
It creates, it puts you in, it keeps you saying different

(52:36):
circles. Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah,
you're right, 100%, absolutely. Because when I'm around my food
friends, like, you know, the energy we talking about sauce.
And yeah, that's what, like legit, nobody cares because with
food it's not necessarily who you know or who you took a pic.
It's like, yo, this shit is amazing.
What? How did you make this?
What's it like? That's it.

(52:57):
You put a food, you put a food guy, you put a food in front of
a food like a chef, they would be like, oh man, how did you.
You're not put me. In the rest, do you have a
restaurant? No, we do some catering and Next
up we're going to do a food truck.
After the after the food truck, then in the future we'll do
restaurant. It's you.
Got a name for it? Yeah, it's Uncle Bauer right
now. Just going with that.

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But I'm trying to. I'm gonna do because I want to
do me and my business partner, he's Peruvian.
So we want to do West African and the Peruvian.
St. Peruvian.
Yeah, that's where we're going with sexy.
That's the game plan. That's a date night.
You're seeing it? Yeah, I seen it.
I'm a big fan of street food, soI really enjoy, like, you know,

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what you eat when you're drunk or when you're tipsy and just
the warm food that keeps you happy.
That's where I'm at. Speaking of transition,
transition and. We've talked about this when I'm
in London I don't really find like aside from like Enish and
like there's one other spot thatI that I think you took me there
and. Nah.

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Hack me. Hackney.
They're closed now. Did you see what I'm saying?
So the spot, the Hong Kong, yes,the spot that I.
The spots that I really like andthought made really good food
are either no longer they don't exist or I just.
Don't like it? There's one sport in East
London. Plaster K scaff Gardenian

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Restaurant Yeah geez, how how's the food saying in London for
y'all like. Pre pandemic it was lit.
OK, how's the food? What Sir scene, Because I'm not
the biggest fan of the London food scene, was.
Really. You know, you're not a fan of
London food? I hear you, bro.
British food to me is is but, well, British food is a but it's
like. There's not really.

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There's not really much to really.
To Dick I don't want, I don't want to eat anything that has
the word Dick in it personally. I mean, I don't know about it.
Dick. What is that?
It's sponge cake. OK, where?
Where did you have this? Where did you have your spotted?
Dick, you go to any like. Duck and Waffle wolf in I.
Don't know about. The wolf in toothpick, you know

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how those all those British restaurants.
But not the pub. Restaurants are the pubs.
No even the rest of the restaurants have these like.
But OK, So what I learned about those restaurants that are like
Ant and butterfly, The reason why they have names?
The names, yeah. The reason?
Why they name that way is because back in the.
Day, bro. Honestly, like when it comes to
like food in the UK, like. Jamaicans.

(55:27):
They can never go wrong like everybody loves.
A lot of those places, a lot of those places are shutting down.
I don't know if you like Indian.Food.
I've heard a lot of those placesare shutting down.
Because you just need to know the right sports shout.
It's a brown eagle. OK, Brown Eagle.
Yeah, Brown Eagle, Dave, Dave, Dan, Tottenham.
They're in Edmonton. See.
That's why. They're in field.
Oh bro. Me go to Tottenham.

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Actually, I hear you. I hear you.
That's a. That's a trip, bro.
That's a field. Trip Yeah, they have a number,
this Brown Eagle in East, the couple of Jamaican restaurants.
I think Tottenham is the equivalent of the Bronx Damn.
Like as far as distance? Like where we are from where
it's popping. Tottenham is far bro.

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Tottenham Bronx. No, I'm not talking about like
aesthetically. I'm talking about distance wise,
like to get there. Oh no, Tottenham.
So far I. Mean for me?
I'll turn it so far, bro. Coming from like super like
Southeast. Turn it so far.
If anything, if you're talking about distance, then you're then
coiding and Bronx are the same. Oh, OK, I give you that.
If you're talking this, go. To like a festival like like

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wireless. Oh wow.
So wireless. It depends on where you are.
OK, I understand what you're. Talking about.
Yeah, it depends on where you are, but.
That's a journey. That's wireless.
Wireless chaperone. Wireless is like North London,
so they have it in Finsby Park. So it does take a bit.
They also did it in Crystal Palace.
Yeah. So that's South.
Yes. So if you're going to Crystal

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Palace, that's fine, but it's depending on where you are.
It's Game of Thrones. But Game of Thrones?
Is Game of Thrones? It's game of.
Thrones. So, But yeah, no, the
Caribbean's, you know, they've definitely been killing
especially Jamaican restaurants in terms of cuisine.
You look, if a Jamaican restaurant gets the cuisine
wrong, then it's shit. But you know, chances are that

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you're gonna find a good Jamaican restaurant.
What is the key? I mean, in New York we kind of
have, it's based off the attitude if they're if they're
rude. Oh yeah, if they're dirty, that
means the food is great. OK, so it's the same.
So the same. What you want?
Yeah, but we not have. It we not have that.
We not have. It rice and peas you much.
Extras too. You can't.
Have it. Whenever I order Jamaican food,

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you know, I have something like,yo, pick me this, pick me up
this. I always tell them, tell me
exactly what you want. Plan to come with attitudes.
No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about to my friends.
Because when I get there, I wantto give him the order.
Claire, I don't want to stutter.I don't want the auntie depress
me. Yeah, yeah.
Because if you get there and youget to the counter, we get to

(57:56):
the if you're looking timid. She's like we.
Know how? Dark is this guy doing in front
of him if you got your hands on the counter.
Yes. Can I help you?
Step aside, please. That's what I'm saying.
And the missus, literally. We went to Brown Eagle maybe a
week before I left. And then she came back to the
car and she was like, wow, did they be rude in there?

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And then that's the food. When when I got home and I had
the food, I was like, yo, this is bragging.
So worth it. See.
You deserve that attitude. This episode is sponsored by
Brown Eagle. Shout out Brown Eagle talking
and feel I don't play with the Jamaican because I make sure I
have everything ready. If they don't have this, I'm
going this. If they have plantain, I need

(58:39):
this like everything. Extra gravy with a smile on my
face. Plantain that you just
mentioned, I can't, I can't lie,and I need to say this on
camera. Guys don't hate me, but when I
go to the Jamaican restaurant, Iactually say planting because
I'm not trying to. Yeah, plantain.
You heard me planting. I don't say plantain.
I'm not. I'm not trying to piss.
I'm not trying to piss. I actually was educated on this
yesterday by one of my Caribbean.
I'm not. I'm not trying to piss.
Yesterday I was educated on. It's actually the property to

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pronounce it is plantain becauseit's a noun.
If it's no, no, no, no. That's it's about language.
Because anything that ends in everything that ends in Tain,
that is a noun. In the editing, you can mute
this guy, right? Like mountain fountain, You know
what I mean? That's 10.
But if it's a verb, it's aim, right?

(59:24):
So attain I. Know English comprehension.
But that's bro. That's how you pronounce.
You pronounce it like mountain, so planting what you just
playing a guy or girl? I know that's.
Why I hear exactly I I. But she's she's.
Bro, I I hear, I hear the I hear, I hear the phonetics.
You know, she does literature. She went.
To. She went to, she went to John

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Hopkins. That's cool.
What's her name you want to shout out?
Whatever, that's fine. However, in Africa we say
plantain. We also say traffic it doesn't
makes it right. That's all good, but it still
makes it real. Say Nike is.
Language, we say. Nike Exactly.
Wow, good. The fact of the matter is when.
I go to the Jamaican restaurant and I'm ordering for.

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I just say planting. I don't want the auntie.
I don't want the auntie to be like why I say no.
It's correct, Yeah. Cuz you say planting, you're
gonna get two inside of five. It's planting and you gotta live
with it. Yo.
It's facts. It's facts.
You get them with you. OK, it's facts.
I'm with you if I say planting, yeah, I forget around Jamaica.
You're not going to go to you'renot going to, bro, if I take you
to Hackney right now. I'm taking, not Hackney.

(01:00:25):
If I take you to kids cafe rightnow and you're like, oh.
Mepa A planting crab. And you're gonna say mepa
planting. I'm not gonna mind you.
Yeah, no. First of all, let me tell you
why they won't mind me. Because I'm not gonna say mepa
whatever you said. No, I mean you whatever, you
just. Well, let's just say that you
are speaking that. No, you gonna say planting?
I would do the Africa, you know what I would do, you know?
First you're gonna say Auntie, good afternoon.

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Thank you. I I, I well, when I go into San
Glee spot my name is Ousman. That's.
Walahi. Ousman de Meli de Bellis.
Mo. A Christian man, they'd be like
Salaam alaikum Salaam straight up and then I.
But what I would do, I would. I would get no.

(01:01:07):
I would. Turn it extra thing I can get.
Hello Mom. Can I please have?
I'll just point at it. I know they.
Don't. That's even more.
This would be the fresh soup. Hey, you have.
Points me to an answer fresh too.
I'm making our break. To look behind.
Yeah. Wow.
Wow. No, no, no.
Look behind. I'll point somebody else's gonna
someone else got up, I would just say can I please?
Because of your linguist friend,you would say planting.

(01:01:28):
Yes, you're fucking up your own dish.
It's well fucking up my own. Dish.
It's well, because I'm 100% lying.
I would say planting. When you when you when you when
you like, you're talking to the auntie, say just say hello,
Auntie, how are you? That's when they even give you
more. Of course, now it's.
Not so bad, but some of them. And then when they go to the
Jamaica version, they're coming on some quite like.

(01:01:48):
Yo, let me get #4 and let me getnumber.
Hey, they give you 1 scoop of oxtail.
Not even. Get enough.
Food all born then I'm me. How for life, bro.
How if we know Auntie, I'm Maxine, How is Junior?
How is Junior? Cause there's always a junior.
What if she doesn't have a junior, though?
There's always what if juniors? Late.
What is juniors? Late.
Bless his soul. Every every Caribbean and

(01:02:09):
African cater has a son called Junior.
There's a junior now. You're not wrong, Junior.
Why I? Want auntie's been throwing down
before she met. Uncle.
Uncle had to name that son Junior.
If he's Caribbean. What is uncle's name though?
Julius. Julius or like?
Glenn. Winston.
Leroy. It's something.
Roy. Charles puts and then Auntie.

(01:02:31):
Auntie's name ends with an Anne.Or Or like Cheryl Anne Kelly,
Anne Margaret? What's Gertrude?
What's? The Burner song.
Roberto. Tony.
Ann. Tony.
Ann's thing. It's.
All there, the ends are there. You have to know what you're
saying, that it's crazy. I didn't even call it Jackie.
I've heard it, Jackie Ann. It ends with the thing.

(01:02:53):
But. It's the thing.
It's like a classy it's oh wow. It's there.
So and I'm like it's the thing and is like Nana's all over
Ghana. Yeah, yeah, if you and is like
you standing middle that. Wow.
A light look shout. Out to all my nanas dude, hey.
It's all. Of them all of them All of them,
All of them I. Know I know you.

(01:03:14):
I know you guys just address 50.Percent of Ghana.
I love that if you're in the middle of our crime, you yell
Nana. Everybody in the room like, bro,
Yes. Was he talking?
Oh. Not me.
Well, if you. Go to Let me go sign you yell or
God. Everybody's responding
everybody. Everybody's your boss.
Chief, Boss. Who, Boss or I I?

(01:03:35):
They're about to ask you for money.
Buses are such a good bosses story, but.
If I say it, the person that is involved is going to identify it
and it's not going to be sweet. But I definitely had a bosses
story, so why don't? You like boss Who?
Yes, you know. You know, I know.
Is that why you? Don't like boss?
Who as well? No, not even.
I just feel like you could understand.

(01:03:55):
I just feel like it's like. Is it a setup to you?
Not Even so it's like. Charlie.
Boss who it's just like. It's a filler.
It's a it's it's like a fake. Just to like.
I hear you. But really, I don't give a fuck
about you. I just need something for you.
That's what I'm saying. It's a setup.
It's a, it's a, it's a. It's patronizing, yeah.
No patron. Yeah, because if I'm in Lagos

(01:04:16):
and I'm walking, I hear a guy I'm like.
But all God's the same way. I don't have anything before you
when they bless you with Appalachians like.
Oh, it's coming. Oh my boss.
Or you're a guy, people. Got the big Chief?
Oh, God. To talk.
Oh, like, oh, my. Chairman.
Chairman. Thank you, ma'am.
Oh my God. Bro, it's over.
It's when I start. Here all these appellations I'm.

(01:04:36):
Just like, what do you want oncethe appellation's over?
Over anything for the boys. Listen, are you going to do
Christmas? Once I'm getting do Christmas
for once I'm. Getting praised in the insta DMS
by someone in. I'm already telling them how bad
a day I'm having everything. I just broke my leg.
They fired me. Thank God you thank God you
checked in on me. I'm cutting there.

(01:04:57):
I mean something, bro, You got. To flip it on them once they
start praising you have the worst.
Flipper And he was like, oh boss.
Sorry to hear that because even be safe now as I did here right
now. Thing makes hot and if I find
some money for house, the roof is breaking blah blah blah.

(01:05:17):
So they'll flip and they give you a story that you.
Go to bed like. Damn, I turn.
Am I that bad? I'm saying I gotta let something
happen. The next day you gotta hit him
up. And now the worst Those the ones
that hit you day one. And tell you just check in on
you everything, let your guard down and you'd be like, OK,
it's. Just you need.
Anything they too. So now.

(01:05:38):
You responding in a. Timely fashion because this.
Is your guy. I think people bang, bang, bang,
Bang Bang people kind of. Know that, like, I don't fall
for those things, but see how many years did you spend in
Anja? I don't.
Even think it's about that because.
No, because your best friend shot.
I just don't know, because this is people you grew up with.
That's what is. Emotional.
Yeah. Like this is the.

(01:06:00):
This is the man. You were running around with and
the fact that people know that you don't even.
Yeah, take. That in they have that at the
back of the mouth, so they're just like.
No need to waste today, Guy said.
You know, waving waste his time this time because you're not
even going to pay attention to us, correct?
You know what I'm saying? Once you grow up there, it's
like those are the people that you.
Chop it up with. It's like that with me as well

(01:06:20):
actually something you spend time there.
Something so I'm saying so it's like.
It's the connection is differentoutside with the family.
Yeah, I I would say that I used.To kind of fall for it before my
mom passed, because my mom used to be the person that would help
for everything, so I saw how they would be taking advantage,
if anything. Oh Big Mommy, Mommy XYZ needs

(01:06:41):
school. Fees for XYZ.
Oh, this person. Something happened to their bike
and they want to repair it. But money is well, we have a lot
of money. You know, That's how.
Yeah. They never say anything negative
is bad. Is that we have.
A lot of money. Or you say my enemy is broke, my
enemy is. That's a that's a Nigerian
thing. You never want to.
Hurt myself or Tommy broke? You never say I'm broke, you

(01:07:03):
said. My enemy is broke.
But it's great that I'm fantastic.
Capture my enemies are broke, yes.
I broke. My enemies are sick.
My enemy, it's never you becauseyou don't put that, you don't
bring anything to you. My enemy, because you know the
song is powerful. My enemy?
You're about very superstitious people.
So instead of saying I'm whatever, it's my enemy or yeah.

(01:07:26):
Or the opposite, like instead ofsaying you, I'm gonna start
using that. Instead of saying you don't feel
well, you say. I'm feeling very well.
And then I just need medicine, money, and then you put.
Two into the other thing. I don't know what it is.
I'm strong. Yes, I'm strong, yeah.
Uncle, uncle and got out of bed in 5.
Days we are strong. I'm strong in Jesus name that

(01:07:47):
one. That's the trifecta that.
One money has to be sent today, today.
That means that if you don't send this money tomorrow,
they're going to die. I'm, I am.
I am very strong in the Lord today.
And I say, oh, this is more serious than I thought, so I'm
just on his deathbed. We are lucky to see we.
Are lucky by God's. Grace, by God's grace.

(01:08:08):
We'll see tomorrow, bro. Send the money now, bro.
And send the Western Union is too late.
No. Send the money to the houseboy
to go and pick it up to give. You back to him.
You have to DHL next day here, bro.
Check. Anyway, we're gonna transition.
Into. Your work that you don't take a
break from. We're going to shame you.

(01:08:28):
We're shaming you to see vacation pictures.
Jews on vacation. We're shaming you.
What were you doing before you decided to go into the music
business? For those who don't know, I was
a I. Was a corporate guy, you know,
my whole. My whole educational background
is finance, so they go on. I was a banking and finance

(01:08:51):
student. And I did my Master's
International finance. Sorry and I have like 9 years
worth of like experience. In banking and.
Finance, you know, I've done. Credit management Bank.
Trading, investment banking, private equity, venture capital.

(01:09:13):
Like I've done all of this shit,man.
That's why we don't negotiate booking fees?
Nope. This is my rates so that you go
to hell or you. Coming to hell with us.
But yeah, that was just my wholebackground.
In fact, bro, I actually thoughtthat I was going to be like a
crazy trader. Let me tell you this interesting
story as well. Like I was an ethics trader.

(01:09:38):
For this bank in the city, and this is the first time me
actually being a trader because I've done other things like I've
done the credit management accountancy aspect of things but
this is when I was a trader. So this is when you're like
trading with the big boys like you know the the JP Morgan's and
you know whatever and the aim isto try and make as much profits
on on on whatever transactions they are.

(01:10:01):
So I was killing it bro. Like I was making so much money
for the for the bank. And then they were about to take
me onto bonds and derivatives. For those who don't know what
bonds and derivatives are, that's a different type of
financial instrument, which is abit more extreme to like normal
foreign exchange rates, like youknow when you go to the exchange
whatever and change your money, right.

(01:10:22):
So I was anticipating. This thing to.
And I just got this one e-mail like, yo, we're going to move
you from FX trading. We're taking you to bank
reconciliation. So bank well, the
reconciliation, it was even reconciliation.
It was like. Basically, this is the part of
the bank where they literally overlook everybody's work.

(01:10:46):
That's what reconciliation is. And I'm just like, yo, this is,
I'm not feeling this. I remember the first week or
two, I was like, yo, I'm not feeling this shit at all, like,
at all. So I started sniffing out.
I was like, yo, are there any, you know, sports for different
departments? There was credit management.
Took me to credit management. I was in credit management for a

(01:11:08):
year. Then he took me to international
trade. It's.
International trade Where? Everything changed guys cause my
boss. Was this white guy?
Chances. Are that he may see this video
chances. Are that he may not see this
video, but he was such a dickhead.
Well, welcome first the 1st and.Foremost so, so like.

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Intimidating to people. And I just feel like, so, like
this bank was like an African bank as well.
So I just feel like, is nobody really seeing this shit?
Like nobody really saying, you know what I'm saying?
But I mean, who am I to judge, right?
And there was just one day, right?
I had so much work on my plate and I wasn't able to do
something that he asked me at a particular time because I was

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trying to finish another task. And the way he disrespected me,
you know, because we were in cubicles.
And just imagine. I'm working from a.
Treasury ethics situation where I'm like in an office glass
office so nobody can fuck with us.
We were just like, you know, we're not in space, but now I've
gone to like the cubicles. And that's fine because.

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The cubicles, there were so manydepartments spread across,
right? This guy disrespected me in
front of these people like. I was speechless, bro.
Like. If that was my mom, and no
disrespect to my mom, but if my mom says something like that to
me, I feel like I would have retaliated or something.
Because, you know, sometimes, you know, you can retaliate with
your mom or your aunt to your uncle.

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That doesn't make it right. Yeah.
And it's justified. Yeah.
You still respectful? Yeah, but it's.
Kind of like, but that doesn't make it right, you know?
But but I was speechless and there was so many things coming
into my head. I was like, rob juice, are you
going to let him take you for a pussy?
Are you going to take him for a Dick?
And like so many things will come into my mind.
And prior to that, I was like, already talking about the fact

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that I wanted to quit. But 2017, that's why I put out
this project Leap of Faith. Leap of Faith was literally I
called that project Leap of Faith because it was me telling
myself I am going to take the leap of Faith to do this music
in full time. But I was still holding on
because of the money. And you're a financial guy.
It's a. Small bet.

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Well, I had to you know, have you know, and it's not like they
even. Pay me the greatest amounts of
money, but this is what I was using to get by.
But as music was getting better and better and better, I was
like, you know what? The music is holding me down.
You know, I couldn't do this. But I think that moment sparked.
I was like, fuck this. This was a this was a Thursday.
No, this was a Friday. This is a Friday.

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I called my parents. On Sunday?
No. On Saturday I had a conversation
with my missus. I was like, yo, fuck this, I'm
quitting. She was like, alright, that's
good. Wherever, wherever, you know,
wherever. Call my parents.
On Sunday, I was like, yeah, momand dad just letting you know.

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Yeah, well, I didn't say like this, but it was a very deep
conversation. I was like, listen guys, this is
what's happened in the office. I just feel like, you know.
My heart is not in this anymore.I've been disrespected in the
office but has nothing to do with that.
But I just feel like it's time for me to take my passion
seriously. So now I'm going to take this.

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Music thing, Seriously. The silence on that phone was
Immaculate, bro. And then my dad chipped in.
Maybe like 15 seconds later, he was like, if that's what's going
to make you happy, cool. Just make sure that you have
enough. You know, to take care of
yourself. It was my mom who was calling

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later during the day. Like, bro.
No, of course not. This is what?
You want to do to this day prayed.
She's already prayed. And to this.
I still don't. Think that he's even.
Sunk in her. I talked to pastor and then I
just said that I saw her. I saw.
I saw my mom. I saw.
I saw my mom a few weeks ago andman, mind, this is like five

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years later and you know, she was like.
Because I said I wanted to do a PhD, which I still want to do,
but I just need to find a problem to give a solution.
But it's going to be in creativity, it's going to be in
music, right? And I was just telling her, I
know I'm going to do a PhD at some point, but I was in the
kitchen. But I was helping myself to
some, you know, some some shit or to some shit I can't

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remember. That's my usual and.
She was like. What happened to the PhD that
you're going to do? And I was like and I was like, I
just need, I just need a problemand then I need to find a
solution. I was like, oh OK is there um,
PhD going to be in banking? I'm just looking at you.
I'm looking at her like you haven't been doing this thing

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for 5-6 years. Look at your parents like Don't
you like me happy? So I was like I said, I'm not
doing what? Do you mean I haven't been doing
this for 5-6 years? Just like oh.
So the music is your full time job now.
How's it like? Parents have such.
I was like parents have such a funny way of.
Throwing shades. Yeah, no odd DS that we paid
for. This is all of it you want to

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do. It's for you to be taking a leap
of faith and bear. In mind, my dad, people can.
See these sounds, but this is the bee.
My dad was in the background, but you know, her father's, you
know, my guy was pretending to put something in the bin like,
you know, he didn't even hear. He didn't even, he didn't even
hear anything else happening. Fixing and then he Then he
passed. You know he passed the.

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Conversations like my mom's nameis Nana Nana I did.
But I'm just, it's just like, oh, I'm just asking questions
and I'm just like, yo, I need to, you know?
But you know, I understand whereshe's coming from because at the
end of the day, she just wants to make sure that you know her
child is good, but and know her child to tell her friends.
My son. My son has.

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A pH. D In banking and music her.
Son is also a Grammy nominated producer, I hear that.
But there's more to flex. There's more.
The flex never end. I mean she.
Also she. Can also brag the fact that her
son has. You know, 2 degrees and he's
still killing it in music. Like listen Johnny, I don't
know. It's I think as parents.
It never ends. It never ends.

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They like when they. See certain things.
That's when they're like, oh, then they can go to church and
be like, yeah, they want to. All they want to do is where
your fancy hat Thanksgiving Sunday is coming they want to
wear. Their fancy hats and brack to,
you know, Gifty and Gloria. All the G's.
All the G's. He's some Gifty.
All of them. But I love Gifty.

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And Gloria, though? All of them.
But what's it all the gifties and all the glorious put it to
life. They say a prayer.
They hear something. And now it's for you to bring.
It God is good. So my son, my son decided to
bring back all the things that he promises going to give us
when he That's cool facts. We're grateful.
Jesus. Facts.

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I mean, you want to be able to, you know, give your mom.
Your dad, you know, money, buy them a car.
But sometimes they don't even need it.
So it's just like, you know, as long as you're able to.
Like, I think there was one time, maybe a couple years ago,
it was, I think it was my dad's birthday or it was something was

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a family dinner. And we went to this very
expensive place in Ghana, right?Kapinski went to have dinner
there. We had a buffet.
Everybody had whatever they wanted.
And the bill came, and I just paid for the whole thing.
And my dad was just shocked because I've never really had
the opportunity to do that. And it just made me feel proud.
Like, yo, I paid, you know, bro,the bill was crazy, though.

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You didn't even look at it. Oh, I looked at yo, bro, the
bill was crazy. I was in the shower that night
like they. Didn't need all that shrimp,
bro, but it was it was it was a good.
Moment because it was just like,you know, and I remember, you
know, later on in the week my dad came out to us like, yo, you
know, I was very proud. You know, you did that because,
you know, parents feel like they're going to be catering for

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their children for the rest of their lives.
But when they see justice like that or they see certain things,
it's just like if it makes them feel like they, yeah, they've
done their job. Yeah, they worry I.
Think they're worried till they?Don't have to and they need to
chill though, but I. Sometimes you need to, sometimes
you need to put. To the side and be like guys.
It's a nature thing, like sometimes they nature to chill
some. Parents are just wired to always

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be that provider be. They just want to know.
I'm going to shame you again. You can't tell.
Anybody to chill? Yeah.
Have you chilled? That's true.
You can't have you chilled. Wow.
When was the last? Time you chilled.
I'm shaming him. I'm shaming him all episodes,
having faith. Yes, now sounds of his world.
Have you chilled? Tell us you've chilled.
Wow. That man is throwing stones.

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In a glass house. He's he's doesn't chill so much
that even did deluxe. Wow.
Wow. Chill now.
It was standard and then you went to.
Over. Over not small drop it.
Drop references. Over.
Not chill we until, listen until.
We see vacation. Do you know why, bro?
I feel like I'm in a. Position that is a lot different

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to my peers because a lot of my peers are signed.
A lot of my peers have. Situations true.
You know what I'm saying? I'm not.
Like my. Whole career I've had to deal
with like an advance and you know, like, I feel like the
label didn't even feel like, youknow, things could be achieved,
but I over achieved always. Do you know what I'm saying

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like? You know.
The My Mix and and My Color mix tape was like it was supposed to
be my first album, but I didn't like the way things went, so I
called it a mix tape. But it's album quality and I
recouped that and I think they were surprised at the fact that
I recouped that and sounds of myworld is about to be recouped
like we've recouped them was more than half of it already and

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it was just last year. So it's like I just feel like
because I'm not put in. This commercial.
Superstar bracket than some of my peers are, so that's why I'm
not getting some of the looks. That's that I I I I feel like I
would do great but you know the game I think my.
Name right now is a very traditional.

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Legendary name where it's just like it's like it's like a DJ
Premiere where DJ Premiere you know is a legend in this game,
but I don't think DJ Premiere got.
He's not mainstreaming. He hasn't really got his flowers
in the mainstream exactly, but you can't listen to an artist.
That is considered a great in the.

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Hip hop space that hasn't had a premier record exactly that has
defined the one you have a if you.
Have a D OK, so this is even. A perfect summer.
If you have a DJ Premier produced record, that is one of
the biggest moments. It's like any hip hop.
Yeah. So I feel like for me, if you
have a Jews production in the Afrobeats world.
That's the big that's the biggest for you to like having a

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J5 record in that swing space. But even J5 is like more.
So he is, you know, you know, he's signed.
He has a situation. So his situation is a lot more
grand. I don't have that you understand
or like a like a pizza J. And these are all my guys.
But I don't think I have been put in that limelight or given
the opportunities that they havebecause you know, just been in

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the petty machine. Exactly.
No, they have the machines behind them.
But we'll get there though. I think your persona also fits.
Yeah, you you're not a machine because I don't know, You see
Jews, he's. Chilling whenever.
Even at your gigs, like, I feel like you're approachable.
I think you. I don't think.
I haven't think of it. I can't think of the time I've
seen you with like a big posse. I understand what you're saying.

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Yeah, and you're right. And you're right.
So I feel like I don't know if you know, some people fake it.
Till they make it. But you're in that space where
you're low key. You're doing some of your, not
even the. I need to change.
The energy? No, I well depends.
On what you. Want though.
It depends on what you want. If you want something else, then
yeah. But it's like every time I see
Jewels, it's like you're chilling, you're approachable,
the people celebrate you. You know what I mean?

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We're also talking about something about perception,
right? Like all the shit that we're
talking about, it's like, this shit is fickle, bro.
Like I won't need. There's certain things that we
perceive about certain artists, certain producers, that we may
think that just because they're perceived the way that they're
living life away, we all know that that's not always the.
Case, right. So I actually, I mean from the

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outside looking in, I agree withyou.
I think there's some other, there are peers that they paint
a picture of their lives away and they're perceived away.
But we know, right? It's packaging.
So. Would you trade?
This for that would I package that for the I mean.
I mean, would you trade the piece you have now for that?
Well, is it really even peace because?

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I'm really like. What?
Like for example, Right. I'll give you a perfect example,
like the Made in Legos album, right?
There was no. A and R involved in that for me.
Whiskey, literally, said Yo Bro Comm Studio.
And I went to studio A. Bunch of times.

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I think I went probably 5-6 times and we caught like so many
ideas. But then it was that true love
record that I had on my own. Best Song, Best Song in the
album. That I was like, yo, I think
whizz. Was sound sick on it, and I sent
that to him. Whiskey doesn't really.
Call people like that. Unless it's like yo and I was in

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the studio and. I missed two calls from whiz.
I was like, yo, this must be called him.
He was like, bro. Need that song on my album, bro.
I was like, bro. Collect.
You better collect. That and change my life.
You understand. So there's some people that
probably have. You see.
But again it really depends on the artists like Wiz.

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If Wiz messes with you, he's going to hit you up, you know
You see it all the way like you've seen it through his whole
career. Wiz likes Peter J.
He's gone for Peter J. He messes with P prime, he's
gone for P prime. He messes with size, he's gone
with size. He's gone with me.
He's gone with me. You like that's how he that he
wrote. If if the song.
Touches his soul and it's a goodrecord he's going to take it.

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He doesn't deal with the whole you know politics thing or a
thing where an A NR kind of likebecause there are some a N r's
that like to take full control and be like I this a NR is
saying to burn a boy today is going to produce your record
buyer is going to mix it. My guy is going to do, you know,
like, I'm not saying that's the situation, but there are some
situations like that where it's very dictative, so some artists

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are not able to be. Creatively creative expressively
with their music. So sometimes when the album
comes out and people listen to it, the fans are like, ah man
sounds very manufactured. J5 should have produced for
this. Or Jews should have been on this
album. Or if Jews gave them a record it
would have been crazy. Or if P Prime was the one who

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did this boom boom, boom. Or this sounds like a da da da
beat, but it's like me, do you know what I'm saying?
So sometimes those are some of the obstacles and.
I think the reason why I just decided to be my own artist and
DJ and producer as well is so that I could literally just make
a name for myself and build likea brand for myself and just, you

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know, know, like let the people know that, you know, I'm doing
my thing. And so when they hit me up, you
know, it's, you know, you achieve with respect.
Because the fact of the matter is not a lot of producers and
engineers are cheated with respect at all.
But they weren't they. They weren't to know it.
They weren't. Admit it.
So it's about how you conduct yourself and what you're able to

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bring, you know, to the table. And, you know, maybe there's
some air nows who be like, I want Jews to do this for you.
Or they may feel like actually Iwant somebody else to do it
because. They may feel like.
Maybe I would be a bit long or I'll do certain things like I
wouldn't give them what they want, which is like a hit record
or like a bang, you know what I'm saying.

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But. You know.
Yeah, we'll get them and it's, it's, it's slowly coming, but I
won't lie to you and say that you're sometimes I'm frustrated.
Sometimes I'll just. Be like yo.
I wish I was able to buy this watch or buy this car or buy
this house. And because I see all of my
peers like, you know, buying their mom's cars, excuse me and

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all of these things, I want to be able to be in that position.
I think I'm grateful to God the fact that I'm getting by and
more and being able to take careof you know the people around me
and my family and stuff. But bro, you always want more.
You always more. So you know as as as as a human
you have to evaluate your your life and and and and kind of
like take into consideration what's happening around you.

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So I made a conscious decision that 2023 I just want to step
away. You know we're talking about
vacation kind of like step away.I'll still be producing records
for people. People who are able to reach me
can reach me. I'll still be doing that.
But I just want some me time where I'm just not in people's
faces or socials. And if you see me, you see me.
Do you know what I'm saying? The one thing I'd learned after

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taking a break? Is the way you treat people and
just your character will still make people come back to you.
Because even when I was taking abreak, I was always afraid that
when I come back, like I'd have to start over again and.
How long was your break? I took 7-8 months, just like
straight like it took me. I'd say it took me like by the

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third month, to learn to relax because you were still fake.
Fake busy trying to do. Something like because the night
would come and I'll be like, So what did you do today?
Yeah. And I like, I didn't.
Oh damn, I lost the day. Yeah, but it's like, yo, you
should not feel like that on your day is off.
Like you should be able to just like wake up rest.

(01:28:50):
Kick it How's mom how's on, You know what I mean?
Like, because we don't even get to check up on like, it's so
weird that we have a lot more technology.
But I feel like the generation before us is more linked to
their family than we are. So sometimes you're like, wait,
how is this guy doing? How is this person doing?
Because I've been in the game just worried about, you know,
connections and networking. Today I was in the group chat

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with with like elders and the family.
I was like, yo, like, I want to.I want to talk more with my
cousins over here. They had a kid.
They did. This like that.
Like let me go celebrate. Yeah, let me go celebrate this
person graduating kindergarten. Like that's a big thing.
I want to be in that their memory when they look back at
something you know. So I felt so bad recently as

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well when my. Cousin had his christening for
his daughter and we were so lateand this is me just drinking.
These guys probably feel like I'm.
I'm too busy to even spend time with family and I don't want
that to. They never complained, They
never said anything. They were like, yeah, we
understand cuz they knew that you had a gig the night before.

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But like, I don't want that to be another like a constant, you
know what I'm saying? I feel you cuz if.
You're not there for them. It's just like no.
Juice is never even around, you know, so there's no even point.
Like inviting them just makes you look crazy.
Yeah, yeah. Because then you, if you don't
get the invite, you. Want the invite even though you
can't make it and then you startfeeling the way like because
family invite is lucky. I don't like.

(01:30:15):
I don't be asking for the invite.
The invite is just be like, yo, we're doing this.
I'm just like guys like come on,let's have a family meeting and
discuss what dates work. But then it just comes in the.
Post So I'm just like yeah. So it happens in your family as
well? Oh yeah, my auntie, my auntie,
my auntie. Invited me to her 7CS.
Time ago and in my head I already knew that I wasn't going
to make it. But then I was just like, yo,

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how do I even communicate this? And, you know, was it in Ghana?
Was it in? No.
I was in London though. No, it was in London.
You gotta take over responsibility, but like.
The camera crew, Yeah. As long as long as you send
someone from the family, yeah. Yeah, well, that's a good thing
with being married. Right.
Like your partner could go to represent you.
Yeah. And she in China, girl.

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Never mind, she's. Like, no, no, no, let me not.
Even say that it's not like. She's not even trying to go.
It's just like if I'm not going.It's.
You know what I'm saying? You.
Know what I'm saying? That's not easy.
That balance is hard. This bro.
It's really tough now. It's tough.
It's some deep talk. This is why.
We need these type of conversations.

(01:31:21):
Obviously, you know, you've doneso much in industry, but it's
like. Jews, the person you know,
Julian the man, like what? What are you dealing with?
So that's. I'm happy we're able to have
this conversation. I never really have
conversations like this and. You know, it's important that
men have these conversations as well.
I'm not going to lie to you, like we getting a lot of stick
from the women on a daily basis.It's crazy right now bro.

(01:31:44):
And we deserve it as well, you know what I'm saying?
Cause you know, some of us are acting like crazy, of course
crazy out here, but at the same.When we are, you know.
When men have so much pressure to, you know.
Pay the mortgage and pay the bills.
And, you know, put money on the table to, you know, buy food for

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the house and, you know, do all of this for the babies and
stuff. That'd be the main provider as
well. And if we make the slightest
mistake and then be shouted at or we screamed at, it feels like
it's just like, yo, are you not even?
Seeing the shit that I'm. Doing right now and so it takes
a lot of men into like dark holes.
But they're in these dark holes.With these thoughts that they're

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never. Able to share with their fellow,
of course. Mind them because they, you
know, they don't feel like, Not that necessarily.
It's not a safe space, but if everybody's keeping up
appearances and nobody's being real, that's the issue, the
keeping up appearances part. Is the biggest issue I'm talking
to your real? They'll be telling you like, yo,
I'm going through it. I even like, damn, I thought
everything was cool over there. Yeah bro, keeping up the cases.

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The issue in the. UK is called keeping.
People, Yeah, Yeah. And as an African.
Man like how dare you show any form of weakness?
Because you show a form of weakness.
You've disgraced the family. Of course, you can't lead
anymore without an Alpha. But that's that's that's what a
lot of men. Deal with and you know you're in
this dark hole. You have no one to talk to.

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I met a guy at one party and youknow, he and his missus just had
their child and he was like, yo bro.
What's it like? Because I feel useless.
The way he said it, yeah, I could relate to him immediately.
And it's because, and you guys, you're going to get there.
Things are going to happen, yeah.
And you're going to like, it's not even your fault, it's life.

(01:33:37):
But it's like you wouldn't really know.
What to do at? The moment in time.
But the woman have it covered bro.
So they're going to be like it'seither they're.
Going to say do this or they're going to be like.
Just give her or give him to me and I'll handle it.
And it was just going to make you look so stupid.
So you need to learn on. The job like read up.

(01:33:57):
And it's crazy, bro. Like, for real, like.
And men don't really get a chance to actually share those
experiences with other men. Yeah, what they will probably
say with the. Man them is just like hey.
Yo, this girl acting up? Yo, I'm trying to do this.
I'm trying to do that. She's screaming at me.
Is it good? It's as good as my.

(01:34:18):
No, continue, continue, continue, I feel.
Like, it was kind. It was good in my British
accent. It's Midwest good.
It's Midwest. Yeah, yeah, Midwest America.
That was like, if you get that, no, you could get that.
It ain't. It ain't.
You couldn't get late. But where I?
Can I sound like Nipsey, right? Now hey, dope.
Please, about my foot. So.
Yeah, I just feel. Like, you know.

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Men deal with a. Lot of pressures and they.
Are not allowed to express it because if they express it and
it's just like a matting. But my thing that that's why a
lot of men leave their. Families No what?
You just said was crazy Way laziness.
And well, yeah, kind of the other things, yeah, yeah, there
are other aspects. But then no that kind of way.
He said. Where he was like, oh, she
acting crazy. Dada, Dada.
That she actually hit up the palm The palm nuts, too?

(01:35:03):
No, but this is my thing, right?It's like.
Some guy will hear that, right? And then when he's dealing with
a situation that's similar, he'salready triggered of.
She's acting crazy when she might not be, but because man's
maybe acting crazy. No, no, no.
I'm. Saying we're not being real.
With each other. So when someone is dealing with
a situation that might be similar, they just on defense
automatically. And now you're not even going to

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hear your person out on what thedeal is?
That's what I'm saying, cuz oh, my man told me women be acting
crazy. This this is the crazy.
I think I'm out. I think what's important on both
sides, both men and women, whether and or men and whatever
your relationship is self-awareness, accountability,
emotional intelligence. Emotional intelligence is the

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biggest thing. Emotional intelligence.
Emotional maturity, compromise and communal considerational
issues. Consideration like you need to.
Be so considerate with like likebro like.
You could probably go to. Work, you go to the office.

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Chances are that maybe nothing is.
Nothing really is going on at the office, right?
And you get home. And some and then.
Let's say the baby is crying like crazy and you make a
comment like yo. Why is she crying?
So much? Can you not keep her quiet?
Hey. That's the biggest mistake
you've made in your life, bro. If the baby is crying, you go

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and pick the baby up and then calm her down because she's
probably been dealing with that,because she's dealing with that
the whole time you were out. And you didn't pee because
you're hell, but I fell in that trap.
Literally. Yesterday I was supposed to do
something and I forgot and I wasjust like, yo, can you text me
just a text message? Hey.
Silent. Treatment for like 24 hours.

(01:36:50):
I'm in the doghouse right now. Oh.
Yeah, I was a dog and. I knew I was at the doghouse.
I I knew I was in the doghouse. And you know, being a doghouse
is not great. Oh my God is disgusting.
I mean, you can even see you. You even see dogs.
In the doghouse themselves, like, you see how crazy is.
They just be like, chilling or they just barking like, yo,
what's up? When do I come back?
When do I come home? I was like where?

(01:37:11):
Can I come like that? Bro, you're going to?
Be in the kennel. Oh my God, so we're ready out in
the kennel. So I'm just.
Like yo, so I'm just. Thinking, oh Jews, you shouldn't
have said that. You need to be too late and
there's no way to take it back, bro.
So you. Need to tame the tongue?
It's in the. Bible tame the tongue or the
Quran tame the tongue? It's in the holy book.
It's in. It's in the holy.
Yeah, it's definitely in the holy book.

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And this is. That's why I tell people.
Guys, all the time. If you're living with a woman,
the one furniture you should pick is couch.
Absolutely. Because you going to end up.
There, no, you going to end up there at.
Some point sleeping on that couch, so make sure that couch
is comfortable. If you live with a woman, you
can do everything right. And you won't be blamed for

(01:37:53):
doing it too right? I hear you and you got to sleep
on the couch. But growing up my dad had a man
cave, so I well, we don't see no, but you're listen.
Your father was a chief, that's what I'm saying.
I hear pressure. Boys, to have man cave.
Your father had money. So listen.
Have the pandemics. There's inflation.
There's two pandemics. There's an inflation.

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Boys can't. I have pandemics like a step
further back. I need a man.
You need a man cave though. My dad do my dad's.
You can't afford this because mydad's always easy me to walk
downstair. I need a studio.
I need a studio in my house. You don't.
Have a studio in your house so the studio could be I have to
move. Because every day they were
coming, knocking on my door likehey.
I had to move out there, bro. I wasn't able to.
We just moved to a new place andthere was like a small room I

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was using to, like, make the music.
Sorry, I'm going to There's going to be a button I press if
I hear her doing a little. I'll just go check on her.
I'm just like, I'm in the studiowith her.
I'm in the studio with her and. She brought her into the studio.
Oh yeah, yeah, in the room. Wow, amazing.
Yeah. But I had to put the ear.
Things over because the music istoo loud and I'm when I'm

(01:38:58):
realizing that this is a distraction, I was just like, yo
you guys, I can't be here. So I literally just got a new
studio space so that we could feed that room up because bro,
it's it's you're a man. If you don't have a man cave,
you need an escape destination. Not too far from the House, of
course. If it's around the corner, a

(01:39:20):
place. Where you can do like a.
Little a little puff puff here or shish or.
Whatever it is that you. Might not go and show you.
Yeah, show you. Yeah, there's a chopper.
In the Eastern Region of Ghana, called in quotation Don't mind
your wife, chopper. Are the windows tinted in that

(01:39:43):
place Now? It's.
Very open such a bar. Saying our Nacho bars are very
much open and ventilation. I'm just saying cuz this you
know, I we is it like a. Secret food smack stuff offer
has to bro. Because if you're going to leave
your. Wife, if it's called Don't mind
Your Wife or food smacks like crazy it.
Has to, I remember because you can't go leave your wife to eat

(01:40:03):
bad food because might be begging.
Yeah. No, you can't have food.
Your wife got to take care of you after you don't want to
mind. I'm.
Not minding you now and and and that place was full up as well.
But when we drove past this I was like, yo, we need to check
this place out, me and my brother.
Do you, do you imagine if you'rewith your?
You're with your lady when you. Drove by and she's like, I
wonder what's going on there. Like I didn't see you.
I know you like that's a horrible name.
Wow. I would never go there.

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Ever. I mind my wife.
You can't. You can't.
You can't. You can't review all you're
supposed to do. You just never mind, I mean.
I mean, he hated. It's the reason he.
Hated. You know, he doesn't like this
place, so yeah, he would never go again.
One question. For you, what are?
Your hobbies? Outside of music, somebody asked
me this a couple days. Ago I love football, football.

(01:40:47):
I love Arsenal support. Arsenal since I was five, you
know, do you like go to games or?
Yeah, I was I. Have a season ticket and then
also shout out to my boy Emanuel.
He hooks me up. You know, for box tickets
sometimes just to watch the game.
Yeah, big Arsenal fan, big love football, basketball as well.

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I don't have a team, though. But when I started watching
basketball, it was 1999 when theNew York Knicks and the Spurs
were in the final. I was a big fan of Spiro, Marcus
Canby, Larry Johnson, Patrick Hewing, Robbie Houston.
So yeah, I started following basketball from then.

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And then I started supporting the Celtics because I was a huge
fan of with John Rondo and KevinGarnett got you.
I was a Celtics fan for a long time.
Yeah, I'm a Knicks. Fan So I'm always sad.
So, Ray. Man, that's crazy for you guys.
Hey, let me just say this right as well.
Yeah, and it's not even like, any shade, bro.
Because anytime I come to New York, tell me the tongue.
I try. I try.

(01:41:56):
Bro. The Knicks are so trashy.
Oh my God, dog. There's nobody You're gonna It's
not even funny, bro. It's not.
Even funny, bro. I feel like right now people
just go to MSG for like, hey, let's go to MSG for like a
Family Day out. Let's have like some chicken or
some bro. And I went to a game.
It was the Knicks versus the Timberwolves.

(01:42:18):
This was the season before, the one that's just passed.
I was just like, yo, this is crazy.
These guys are but but you know it's good.
Being a Knicks fan. It's always our year.
This year, I feel good about this year.
I mean, you had a We're delirious.
Yeah, we're delirious. We're.
So it's gonna be a good. Year, but do you go to the

(01:42:38):
games? It's I've been but.
It's always sold out. Yeah, So I'm just like, I'm not
paying stupid money to for. Yeah, I mean, because it's a
this tourist attraction. Like you people want to go to
MSG? Yeah, and that sucks for us
because if it wasn't, then certain moves would be made to
like, actually fill the house. So you feel like the Knicks has
become more of like a tourist attraction.

(01:43:00):
It is. It is because you go to like.
When you look at the crowd, it'slike, you can tell it's like a
family of four here. I didn't notice that.
Yeah. Or it's um, because sometimes
I've gotten to the games and it's like, oh, my friend works
at this branch. And they get.
Tickets. So it's like the firms have
tickets, the big companies have tickets, you know, so it's like,
but it's true. It's funny you say that because

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you expect them, you expect the locals to support the team.
We do, but we just don't go to the game.
We'll. Be at the bars.
So Arsenal has become, because Arsenal, we have this massive
stage stadium, but because some of the games and y'all see the
family, literally a whole familyfrom China's country, like bro,
and then they're just taking pictures.
And they're just happy as hell. As happy as hell.

(01:43:41):
The team, yo, the team is like 3nil down.
And they're just like, Oh my God, let's take pictures.
I'm just like, yo, don't do this, yo.
Like, this is not what I need. Oh my God, it's sad.
I don't need to watch. I like yo listen because I just
want I. Want the owner to feel some
pressure? But the money is coming.

(01:44:03):
They don't put pressure. Are you gonna feel are you
gonna? Be are you gonna feel pressure
if your if your team is losing but then money is in your that's
what I'm saying. I want him to, but he's never
gonna cuz. This it's always gonna change.
The sports is just saying money has just you just described the
music business and you don't even realize I.
Actually, just did. Crazy Ashley just did.
Are you gonna feel pressure if that is a very?
Money, money, money has. Literally changed for

(01:44:25):
everything. Well, let's transit.
A little bit before it ends, because now, obviously.
It sounds Out of Africa is growing.
I don't want to call it as specific because genres are
being developed as we go, which is a great thing cuz playlisting
is happening so artists are ableto be in the right space to be
discovered, especially the upcoming artists cuz I've worked

(01:44:45):
with a few upcoming. Artists and it's always like,
where do you like, you know, like can you reach out to this,
could you reach out to that? And I'm like.
Where do you want to be put? Because sometimes you get put
like people, Oh, I won't be the one with whiskey.
You don't sound anything like whiskey.
They don't get to your song. It's going to be straight, Fast
forward because the vibe is different.
So I'm happy that we've gotten this genre and we're getting
this attention. Obviously you've been in the

(01:45:07):
game for a good amount of time where it's ascended.
How has that been for you? How are the calls different?
How are the studio time difference gigs?
You know, how has that been? The gigs, I think now.
People want me to literally playa lot of my music as compared to
when I was DJ and I was just playing everything.

(01:45:28):
My music is just very chilled and it's like a vibe.
So I don't like playing it too much.
But now I'm going to make a conscious effort to do that now
and that's why I want to take this year out, so that I can
work on some fresh sounds. That's literally for the dance
floor. I mean, at the end of the day,
this. Debate of Afrobeats and the name
and everything. We all know that the Afrobeats

(01:45:48):
is the name that was coined to just throw all sorts of dub
African music under there. But Premier Gao is not Afrobeats
record. Yep, Carolina is not Afrobeats
record. You know what I'm saying?
But the fact of the matter is, because the white man doesn't
understand what these genres are, we we wanted pause.
We just have to agree to it. That's.
The clues, right. Well, let's goose.

(01:46:10):
Let's Rumba Fuji High Life. Hip life.
Quiet. It's it's still dance music.
It's just exactly. It's after we dance.
There's always drums in our music.
So you're gonna be able to two step so it's like we have it's
a. Conscious decision we need to
make to ourselves or make for ourselves.

(01:46:31):
It's like, are we gonna continueto play the game or we're gonna
set up our own structures or ourown reputable?
Do we have no power to do that yet?
I don't know. I'm asking we have the, we have
the, we have the Can we stop? Can we stop the trajection and
just? Be like Okay now it's it.
We have people who are intelligent.
We have people who are pretty much aware of some of the

(01:46:51):
dynamics that can make it happen, but the only problem is
egos and the problem is structure.
And the fact of the matter is that we don't know who is going
to be in charge. Somebody is going to be want to
be more powerful than the other cuz the bad guy wins when
there's. Chaos, right, Right.
So it's like, are we assuming the people in charge are good
for the music? I mean, bro, like if we were to

(01:47:14):
have our own Grammys, let's say we're gonna call it rammies or
whammies or some somebody already got frammys or?
Something, yeah, I'm sure. My 4 armies or something that's
absolutely trash, Yeah. But let's say we have.
Let's say one day we have our own reputable African awards
ceremony, right where it's able to depict the hundreds of

(01:47:40):
African genres that we have, theCalabash Awards and and and on.
Top of that, it's able to popularize them because the
Grammys have popularized a lot of genres of music that a lot of
us didn't even care about from jazz or gospels or roots reggae
and all of those things, right? So.
If we're able. To have an award ceremony where

(01:48:01):
Best Suku Artist, Sukus Artist, Best Rumba Artist, Best High
Life Artist, you know it's evenly spread across the
continent where it's not just the West African thing, we go to
Congo, we go to Senegal. But again, we need to do the
research in terms of what music is popping in these areas
because you can't just say I, we're doing Africa and it's like

(01:48:21):
we're going to throw everybody in there.
We need to know what's popping or how the music is doing in
certain areas like Kenya or Gambia or Senegal or Tanzania,
South Africa, Ghana. I.
Because once you do all of that research and we see which areas
are popping, then we focus on, we have to be honest and say we
need to focus on the areas that are popping and the facts are

(01:48:42):
we've had this conversation. For years.
And we also work. On committees that actually
affect these types of decisions.And what we've realized is that
there's a lot of people that agree with what you're thinking.
Yeah, but. There are others.

(01:49:02):
That, not that they disagree, but they're benefiting from the
chaos, That's what I'm saying. And because they benefit from
the. Chaos, even though.
Fixing the structure and arranging it in the way that he
just described. Would fix all of the confusion,
right? There are certain artists that
have come out and said I'm just gonna call my stuff fusion
because it's a fusion of all these things, right?
Fair. But there are some that are like

(01:49:24):
I know that I shouldn't be calling it whatever I'm calling
it, but I'm just gonna call it that because everybody else is
calling it that, which doesn't solve the problem cuz I always
feel like it's the. Equivalent of somebody like how?
Everybody calls it the word fusion is.
It's like OK, like look at look at like J.
Balvin and what? Isn't J?
Balvin and Bad Bunny How they doLatin Pop.
Yeah, but. Then take it back 1015 years
when it was like Daddy Yankee take a calderone with Sanyondel

(01:49:45):
and it was all reggaeton. Even if they didn't make
reggaeton, that was a capsule term for everything popular in
Latin. Come from that area or being
from the Caribbean, and it didn't matter.
If you made SOCA. So what did they call it?
Bad Bunny and like J Balia. All of it, unless you're doing
urban like Urbano. Which is like literally the

(01:50:07):
Latin version of RB and hip hop.If you're not urbano, you're
probably gonna be considered Latin pop or alternative.
So alternative would be like regional or folk music, like
regional Mexican music. Or at least they have structure.
I mean, there's nothing wrong. They have structure because
there's billions of dollars to be important to that industry.
Why is there billions of dollarsbeing important to it?

(01:50:29):
Because they've been building that structure out since the
70s. Sure they had menudo that.
Gloria So our structure was. Fun We have Enrique Iglesias.
They had Shakira. The vinyl records store that I
went to, and this is, this is interesting and we could
probably end up the the, the, the show on this, but it just
shows about how crazy Africa hasjust been looked at and how

(01:50:53):
they're literally just like taken advance.
I went to this vinyl store, right?
And I'm going through the records and I'm going through
the African section, right. But prior to that, I'll go to
the. Soul section.
And in the soul section, a lot of the records are already open.
Like, like they've torn up the things, so the records are open

(01:51:14):
so I can listen to them, right? None of the African records are
open, and they're the ones that are the most expensive.
But I can guarantee you that's why none of the African artists
know that their records are eventhere.
Because. Because I.
Guarantee they don't own any of the masters.
They don't. It's owned by this thing called
Awesome Tapes. Awesome Tapes from Africa.

(01:51:36):
But they do. So what they do is they go to
these people. They.
Go to the families and they go, we want to buy the rights, cash
out, we want to buy the rights to this artist.
They don't even know that their music is being played on some
pirate radio station somewhere in London.
So those people listen to those stations that are playing all
these authentic seventies, 80s, African pop, disco, whatever
jams. And they'll go to Senegal or

(01:51:57):
Nigeria or whatever and be like,I'm going to find the village or
the the kids, kids, kids of whoever they.
Literally dig deep to find who get it and they go, yeah, we'll
pay you. 505,000, whatever it ismoney they think they would
have, yeah, and they'll be like.Alright, cool.
Boom. So now they have the paperwork.
For 10 years, 20 years, whateverthey have the paperwork 100

(01:52:18):
years and crazy life and it's because we do stuff like that.
So there's no structure. So we can't really like tell you
know who owns this, who's responsible for that, who is
going to help us. Like it's just this is no
structure at all and it's gonna take on I think long time.

(01:52:38):
I think the issue and it's just so crazy.
I always. Tell people I feel like an
entertainment bad people or bad intention.
People are always more proactivethan good people, like we all
have to call ourselves out. Like, what exactly are you doing
to make the next make life easy for the next wave, or even the
wave before you? Because I feel like good people
always just focused on what it is they're doing and mastering

(01:52:59):
their craft and bad intention. People were active.
They're going to make that trip.They're going to meet the next
best thing and build the relationship because you also
try like like. You could probably put your all
into like supporting like. This this kid or like a family,
right? And it gets to a point.

(01:53:20):
Where you're just saying to yourself, you know, I'm putting
so much into this guy, I'm not even making a dime back.
I've got a family to feed. So it's just literally like you
have to make that decision to yourself for yourself asking.
So whether you're going to actually be like I, let me be
the Good Samaritan and be like, boom, I'm going to invest in

(01:53:41):
this guy and then make sure thishappens or just keep your guns
close to you and then just buildyour empire.
When you get super big and you feel like you're able to put
people on, then that's when you do that if you can give yourself
advice from. Like the you 10 years ago, if
you can give that version of your advice from the experiences
you have now, what would you give yourself?

(01:54:02):
What would I? Tell myself close on the
inspirational note. I would have told myself to.
Not take things personal, Nobody.
Is your friend in any industry you are.
And if you do find a friend, youhold on to them tight, and then

(01:54:24):
you build that trust and make sure that they don't betray you.
Keep practicing with your crafts, whether it's.
D Jing or making beats because when it starts to get busy,
you're not even going to have the time to be D Jing or making
beats again. Everybody's a human being.

(01:54:45):
You need to be humble, don't feel like you need to talk to
somebody or some way because it's this person.
Like we should all be treated equally the same.
And lastly, what I will tell myself is you need to be a bit
more patient and not take life too seriously.

(01:55:05):
Go on vacation the day with this.
Episode is gonna be called. Go on vacation.
Go on vacation. Jewels.
Jewels. Go on vacation, Jewels.
All right, so. Last thing what song we do?
Have Song of the Week so if you wanna put people onto one song
you're listening to, it could beyours, could be someone else,
something you're viping out to. I'll try my size of my words

(01:55:26):
deluxe. I want people to.
I want people to check out this record.
Please take it in as a project, yes.
I'm gonna say take a vacation even.
Though Jewels won't take a. Vacation Pam.
It's a It's beautiful vacation music.
It is. It's.
We still got a few weeks left. It's actually a fantastic.
Vacation album of a vacation from beginning to the end.
And a lot of people on your endsare on vacation right now.

(01:55:47):
It's mad. Out of offices, I have said that
sounds of my word is the soundtrack of everybody's
summer. I love it.
It's a beautiful. I want you guys to check.
Out this record it features projects.
It's called Can't get enough. Shut the projects be.
I was so happy for him. Though obviously being on The
Wiz that yeah projects is like that great artist, we might do

(01:56:08):
an album next. Year so sure not might you will
Yeah we will we've. Got so many bangles.
So more more vacation music because.
He's a in fact, we want to go onvacation and make the music.
That's. That's not vacation, though.
Break it down. That's. 505050 in.
Jamaica though OK50 trying to goto Jamaica get a little sticky.
Yuki Yeah. Then you know some drinks.

(01:56:29):
And then, you know, where can your fans find you on the
socials? JULSONIT on the Twitter Jews
baby under score on the Instagram A real Jews baby on
Snapchat. I'm starting to get active on
Snapchat now, so I'll be documenting a lot of the things
that Are you on TikTok? I am.

(01:56:51):
Yeah, he said it so reluctantly.I don't.
Know the real Jews, Baby on. TikTok, You can catch me doing
some of the trending dances on their hair like humble brag,
small flags. Yeah, a bunting.
A bunting. Yeah and yeah, man, that's me on

(01:57:12):
the socials still on tour. Oakland, LA, New York, DC was
amazing. We have Chicago next.
We got new hashtag still on tour.
Still still on. What's your song?
I'm gonna pick. Don't pick.
Myself up Please don't pick. Myself, Coco from Jules.

(01:57:34):
It's one of my. Favorite records from Coco Coco
with a dune, See. And SANSI and SANSI, I'm gonna
pick a song that. We had fun.
With in this podcast a bunch of times as like a ho.
So that's. Like it's like.
Bacon, egg and cheese is one word.

(01:57:56):
As like a bagel. So you know it's a bagel, right?
A bagel. OK, ask like a bagel.
That's that. It's a.
Beautiful song. She got that ask.
Like a bagel, she. Got ask.
Like a bagel? Yeah, but what is that?
That's one of the best sessions I've had.
We. Have to.
So we should end on that? Yeah.
What? Was that session like so we'll
close on that because that's actually a great question.
Thank you. Bao Waliko is one of the

(01:58:17):
greatest. Yes, and we've we.
Met backstage at a concert at Roundhouse in London and I
remember. Seeing him from the first like,
oh snap, that's my Nicole and somebody dragged.
My arm and pulled me to him. He was like, you be the Jews

(01:58:41):
because that's how he talks. So you be the Jews.
You I'm a fan, bro. And I was like.
Bro, I'm a fan of you. I was like, yo, we need to
licking. We need to get in bro.
We need to get in bro. This is Christmas time.
So this is me excited. I was like, yo, I need to cook
some shit out for one day call. Everybody was like, yo, Jews are

(01:59:02):
you come just like now. Fuck you guys.
I'm going home. I'm.
I'm going home. I need to work.
On some super one day call, but we weren't able to have the
session until March. 2018 Wow, damn, you like to skip the fun.
To go home. And they did.
Bro called him. They didn't pick up.
Whatever. Then when things settled down

(01:59:24):
like February, March, he hit me up.
It was like, yo, bro, I'm back in town, you know?
Sorry about the last time, man. I had to show them whatever,
whatever, whatever. So I was like, but you where are
you? Going to record man, I was like
you recorded my house. I was like, do you have
watching? I was like, what?
I was like, yeah, I I can get that, right?

(01:59:46):
I can get that. Is that it?
So he came to the house. Bro, we had watching, we had
drinks. We just having conversations.
He was telling me about everything that he's been
through. And you know, I was talking so
much. So we built that brotherhood at
that moment, right? So I slapped on summer.
So summer. So is the first beat that I

(02:00:06):
played for him. He was like.
There you go. Took the mic, put the headphones
on. Literally.
Yeah, that's one. Take everything you hear in.
That song is exactly what it wasin gibberish. 1.
Day, I'm going to release the gibberish verses.

(02:00:27):
This is I'm. Going to release the gibbering
everything. Even the intro is like all of
that is just gibbous I. Mean.
So like everything is on the spot, so we lit.

(02:00:51):
So he did all of that, right? We did the then.
We found the structure. We found the structure because
it was all in parts, because there were parts that he did the
whole Michael Jackson. Hey girl, he did that somewhere
in the middle. I was like, yo, who the fuck is
this Dick? Hey.
Thank you bro. I can only imagine Jules face.

(02:01:11):
He's like I was. Bored.
I was excited because I was justlike, there's so much to play
with, so much to play with. Yeah.
Then I was like, yo, that needs to come, you know?
At the end, was the ass like a bagel part in the gibberish?
I wasn't. Even there.
What? Oh my God, the.
Hippa came from me. Oh, that's good, he get.

(02:01:34):
It's like a bigoo. Then in the back when he was,
when he was recording it, I was just like.
Then he was like. We'll go to the other one and.
He added it then. You see the part where he was
like, so we were this is this one was done in.

(02:01:57):
Two sessions. This is amazing.
This was done in two sessions, so the.
Gibberish session was one day, then we finished it.
In his house. So we're staying.
We went too far from each other in East.
He was staying in Canary Wharf. So I went to his, his house, put
it on this glass table, had to watch it again, whatever,

(02:02:18):
whatever. And we were like, Alice, let's
feel the words. So we're all feeling the words.
We're listening. So we did it in parts.
I could go with the trouble. Me, you, she just post my brain
did that part and we're all helping each other.
Then when we fill in the words, he's like.

(02:02:39):
He said. We're having a conversation,
right? He was like, choose.
Why? Aha.
He was like, why, you know, bring this one forward now.
And I was like, you know why? I'll go show you why.
That's what I said to him. And then he and he was like,

(02:03:01):
give me the. Mic, you know.
Why? And he recorded that and he was
like, you know why? I'll show you why That's that's
awesome. I've given him he.
Gave me all at the end. Literally.
Samusa is a freestyle that is amazing.
This is a good because if you. Listen to the song.
It has no structure. There's no hope there.
Can you guys make good songs together?

(02:03:22):
What is it? Three we.
We're two now, sister Girl and Samusa.
I'm trying to get. He's in New York right now.
I'm trying to get him. I was like, bro, let's get in
and give the people something again.
Both hits. We got a hashtag.
Where's one day? Yeah.
He's in the Bronx one day. One day is in the Bronx,
actually. Wow, you gotta find.
That was the same way. That burner was burner session

(02:03:45):
was even crazier. Like, for which record this is
Rocky Buddy Classics He. Burner Boy, if it.
Were if I didn't say to him and I was working at these times as
well, Oh yeah, you're still in finance.
This is what I was still in finance.
Burner boy finish. We finished doing Rocky Body at
like 2:00 AM. Then he was like, yeah, let's do

(02:04:06):
another one. I was like, I think about the
office at 8:30. But when I came into my bro and
my my flat is literally this whole room at the time, my, my,
my, my studio flight, probably even smaller.
I stayed in a very small flat, probably from this door to the

(02:04:27):
little small kitchen, bedroom, bathroom, literally for like a
man and then one guy. And then I just had a corner
where I had my studio set up. So that's what I literally did
online. So Whiskey has recorded in
there, Burner boys recording in there.
David has recorded in there, onethey call has my logo and it's

(02:04:47):
it's a legendary space that I left alone.
I still have the armchair that everybody's recording in that
I'm taking. That's amazing.
I'm just making it into the hole.
That's amazing. Yeah, that's.
Fine, now we. Appreciate you.
Great. Stories, man.
I appreciate you too, man. Thank you for sharing.
Your stories with us, man, we're.
Very proud of you. Thank you bro.
Keep killing it. Keep making Ghana proud.
Keep going. I will.

(02:05:08):
OK. Proud.
Yeah. I mean, I do keep making the
culture proud. I will.
I will my brother. Any shoutouts before you're out?
Oh man, Hi, Mom misses my baby girl.
The whole team. My brother, my sister, my
parents, my whole cousins, my whole family.

(02:05:33):
If you've been rocking me from day one, love you forever.
Sounds like my world. The deluxe is out now, booms.
Yes, I beautiful. Project I urge you to listen to.
It it's an amazing body of work he has urge Duo.
And you need to listen to it because after this album I'm
gonna take a long break and you guys won't hear from me for a

(02:05:54):
while and I'll come back stronger, probably in about a
couple years. You know why he go show you what
he go show? You sorry.
Cool. Wow, you guys just.
Jacking my stuff? Nah, we didn't jump.
It's it's a family. It's a family thing.
Homage. Just last thing.
Go on vacation. I beg thank you for joining.

(02:06:16):
Go on vacation. On vacation?
Everybody tell Jules to go on. Yes.
Comments picked everything I need.
Everybody to mention comment. Go on vacation, jewels.
That's the only way he's going. To do it Mimi and Jamaica.
With a gal. Damn, I understand.
Jamaican upstairs and good boy teens that accent is.

(02:06:37):
Slightly worse than my birthday.No, God, it's fine.
Peace. You're messing my.
Jamaican big wrap it up. We thank you all.
Episode 88 You. Were looking at my eyes when you
said. That's weird.
Wrap it up, be safe. Yeah, I'll be cool.
Hi. Yeah, I'll be cool.
Thanks. Again to.
Juice. God have mercy operas.

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