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Today's Monday ed Mark six, twenty twenty three coming up
on roland Mark Unfiltered streaming live on the Blackstart Network.
President Joe Biden goes to sell them to commemorate fifty
anniversary of Bloody Sunday, who will show you some of
what he had to say, but also talk about something
as very important that is go to Selma once a year.
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But why has it Selma been rebuilt? Why is it
when politicians come there for their photo ops they're not
also leaving resources for the black folks who are there
and sell them a John Hope Bryant founder Operation Hope,
will join us to talk about that vary issue. Speaking
up economics, Viacom is talking about selling a majority stake
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in the beet who is being talked about as the buyer.
Tyler Perry will tell you about that. Supreme Court has
had to consider if there's a line between inspiration and
appropriation as they dig into Andy Waralls so screen portrait
but nineteen eighty one photo of Prince. We'll talk to
them the entertainment lawyer about intellectual property and what could
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be at the heart of the Supreme Court decision. Also,
a lot of folks are discussing Chris Rock's live Netflix
special Collective Outrage, took place on a Saturday. He talked
about Will Smith, the snap of the oscars, and other issues. Yeah,
I got a few thoughts about that special, and I'll
share it with you. Also today was the woman who
is part of a ten or ten percent who survived
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a sudden cardiac arrest. Your detail the life saving efforts
that kept her alive to help others. It is time
to bring the falcon. I'm Roland Martin, unfilter for the
black starting network. Let's go whatever the He's on it,
whatever it is, He's got the fine, he's right on
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time and is smelling best believe, he's smelling lusts to
politics with entertainment. It's mate. He's spooky. Especially's built up besition. No,
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he's roll in Martin, Folks. Yesterday a number of folks
gathered in Selma, Alabama, for the commemoration of what took
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place on Sunday, March seventh, nineteen sixty five. President Joe Biden,
Reverend Alice Sharpton, Reben Jesse Jackson, Senior Reverend, doctor William
Barbera and others were in Selma on yesterday. Of course,
commemorating uh the march called Bloody Sunday. The actual anniversary
date is in a couple of days. Of course, the
day ended in violence when white state troopers and sharers
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depantis attacked, beat and killed, attacked and beat marchers again.
Who was known as Bloody Sunday was led to, of course,
the signing of the nineteen sixty five Voting Rights Act.
Before they marched across the Edmund Pittus Bridge of President
Joe Biden spoke to those who were gathered there in selma.
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Selma is a reckoning right to vote. Right to vote,
to have your vote counted as the threshold of democracy
in liberty. With it, anything's possible. Without it, Without that right,
nothing is possible. And this fundamental right remains under assault
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Conservative Supreme Court as good at the Voting Rights Act.
Over the years since the twenty twenty election, a wave
of states and dozens dozens of VANNAI voting halls, fueled
by the Big Lie and the election deniers now elected
to office the new law here in Alabama, among other things,
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and acted a new congressional map that discriminated against black
voters by failing to include what should have been a
new predominantly black district. That case and you all know
better than eyes in front of the US Supreme Court,
and my US Department of Justice has joined many of
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you and arguing that the map violates the Voting Rights Act.
All of this after a deadly insurrection on January sixth.
We must remain vigilant. In January I signed the Electoral
count Reform Act to protect the one of the people
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and the people transfer and the peace will transfer of power.
We know that we must get the votes and Congress
to pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act and
the Freedom to Vote Act. I made it, Claire, I
will not let a filibuster obstruct the sacred right to vote,
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the right of any other right to rote. From there,
so Biden lays all of this out. It is not
anything that we have not heard before. Of course, we
know right now. Republicans they control the House, Democrats control
the Senate. Even when Democrats control the House and the Senate,
they were unable to get the John Lewis Voting Right
at Voting Rights Act. Who they were unable to get
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it the other voting bill through both chambers because they
could not get past a sixty vote threshold in the Senate. Now,
there are many others, like Reverend doctor William Barber, who
have said that the Democrats should keep trying. They must
put another bill on the floor and force Republicans to
vote that particular bill down. I agree with him one
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hundred percent. He also was in Selma, was speaking at
Brown Chapel, and this is what he had to say
on yesterday morning. You know, I don't have a lot
to say tonight. I really came to listen and to
hear about what's happening here in Selma and why there
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is such a need for a committed poor people's campaign
in this state and across the South. I do want
to say that the Bible. Sometimes people say, and the
Bible that says the poor will be with you always,
and they use that as an excuse. Scripture the poor
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will be with you always, So therefore people are poor
it's their own fault or that because they don't have
a faith. Well, if you say people are poor because
they don't have faith, then you say people are rich
because they do have faith, and that ain't true. That
can't be true, right. The Bible actually teaches that the
poor will be with you always, and you have to
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continue reading. Because of the greed of society. That's why
the poor is with us always. Because of the systems
that create poverty and low wealth. There are five of them.
Systemic racism, systemic poverty, ecological devastation, the denial of healthcare,
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the war economy, and the false narrative of religious nationalism,
when religion is used on the side of hate and
meanness and not on the side of love. Right now,
in your state, they are two hundred thousand people that
don't have healthcare. Is not because they don't have faith.
It's because your governor, your legislature will not expand healthcare
and undue right. And so we have to be very
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clear and careful when we talk. Poor people have always
had faith. We know we're rich in faith. But Jesus said,
I come to preach good news to the poor, the
a tokos. And he said, but then you got to
heal the broken hearted. You gotta bring sight to the blind,
got to recover, and gotta release the captives. In other words,
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he says, when I was hungry, you fed me. When
I was sick, you visited me. In other words, poverty
has to be addressed by somebody doing something. It's not natural,
it's not God's ordained way. In fact, the Bible says,
and Isaia attend, woe unto those who legislate evil and
rob the poor of their rights, and make women and
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children that pray pr listener. Woe unto those who legislate evil.
In other words, when when you legislate evil, when you
pass a policy that give certain communities investment but other
communities not, the Bible says, that's evil. When you refuse
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to pay people are living wage for a day's work,
the Bible says, that's evil. I had nothing to do
with their faith, right, And even if you make it
up out of that, it doesn't mean folks should have
to struggle like that. You know, I used to hustle pool.
Ain't always been a preacher. And when when you hustle pool,
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you set up shots that you're not supposed to be
able to make. That's how you fool people. So there
is there are pool shots you can make by tilting
the table up and you shoot from that end. If
you know what you're doing, you can shoot the ball uphill.
But that's not how you're supposed to play pool. The
table is supposed to be flat. Well, just because some
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folks make it out of poverty, it doesn't mean that's
how it should be. Just because they work seventeen jobs
and do it, that's not how it should be. People
should make a living wage. When the King marched on
the March on Washington nineteen sixty three, they weren't just
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marching to feel good. One of the agendas was they
wanted two dollars an hour. Two dollars an hour minimum
wage back then. You know what that would be today? Fifteen.
The minimum wage would be fifteen dollars an hour if
we had listened to the profit back then. The Bible
says that the labor is worthy of his higher So
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when you pay people less than what the that's a
living wage, that's sin. That's not right. And just because
folks make it through that doesn't make it right. All right,
folks will come back, We'll talk with John Hobrian, CEO
of Operation Hope about how we must be expanding the
conversation when we go back to Selma every year, not
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A lot of these corporations or people that are running
stuff push black people if they're doing a certain thing.
What that does is it creates a butterfly effect of
any young kid who you know, wants to leave any
situation they're in, and the only people they see your
people that are doing this, or I gotta be a gangster,
I gotta shoot, I gotta sell, I gotta do this
in order to do it, and it becomes a cyclable
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when someone comes around is making another Oh, we don't
do you know, they don't want to push them to
put money into it. So that's definitely something I'm trying
to fix. Two, it's just show those other avenues. You
don't gotta be rapping. I'm gonna be a ball player.
It can be the country scene, can be an oppersing,
or you can be a damn whatever. You know. Don't
trying the different avenues is not as possible, and it's
hard for people to realize that's possible to someone done.
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Next on the Black Table with me Greg call, we
featured the brand new work A Professor and tie Porter,
which simply put is a revolutionary reframing of the African
experience in this country. It's the one legal article everyone,
and I mean everyone should. Professor Porter and doctor FELIPA. Watkins,
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our legal Roundtable team, join us to explore the paper
that I guarantee is going to prompt a major aha
moment in our culture. You crystallize it by saying, who
are we to other people? Who are African people to others?
Governance is Howard thing? Who are we to each other?
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The structures we create for ourselves, how we order the
universes African people? That's next on the black table. Here
on the black starting everybody made for a Hammy Dean
CALLI watching Robin Martin filter. Stay well, folks. Showing us
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right now is John Hope Brian, the founder and CEO
of Operation Hope. Of course, they do great work dealing
with the folks financially, trying to get their financial affairs
in order, credit scores, things along those lines. John, you
and I were talking yesterday and a lot of people
were hitting me up. They were asking me, hey, man,
are you gonna be in seal them? I said no.
I was there a couple of years ago and Vice
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President Colin Harris was there, and look, I mean the
speech is great. The President Biden went the speeches you
know he gave a voting right speech. But the thing
that I said a couple of years ago, and it
actually it was like actually actually three or four years ago.
And then when I went back with the Vice President,
I said, folks, I said, we keep allowing all these politicians,
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Republicans and Democrats on the national level, then a coach
for folks on the state level to come back to Selma.
We have this commemoration. The fact of the matter is
none of us stay in Selma. We actually go should
be rather to stay in Montgomery. We fly into Montgomery
or Birmingham. Maybe we might buy some food to water
in Selma. But the rally is economically it is still
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a deprived area. It is in the black belt, education lead.
It is uh in dire straits as well. And so
I believe as African Americans, if we're gonna keep talking
about MLK and keep talking about this bridge crossing, and
keep talking about what he was dealing with, we had
better deal with the money aspect and not get caught
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up in the photo op. Yes, the PhD work need
some PhD action, and the conversation about white and black
and even red and blues and debate needs some green
and green advancement people forget rolling. You don't that America
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was actually created as a corporation. The first entities were
not democrats. There are corporations, and that's where they were
sort of organized democratically, but it was a we live
in a democratic capitalist system, or we live in a
capitalist democracy. And black folks never got that memo. It's
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not that we're dumb or we're stupid. In fact, we're brilliant.
When the rules are published in playing fielder's level, we
kill it. Professional sports, the arts and entertainment politics, the
rules are published playing fielders level, we kill it. But
is what we don't know that we don't know that's
killing us. But we think we know, and no one's
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bothered to tell us. And as you know, the Freeman's
Bank was created by Abraham Lincoln, run by Frederick Dunlass,
but it failed after Lincoln was assassinated. Going back to
Selma and your prophetic statement, you're directly absolutely on target.
Let's go further. I mean doctor King's march, as you know,
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was about jobs and freedom. He said, I'm here to
redeem the Czech are insufficient funds or non sufficient funds,
And he also was bringing light in the poor People's campaign.
God blast Reverend Barbara what he said, by the way,
it was really entertained. We started talking about he played
pool and now he's talking to my my language. That
that's squasi economics, the pool game with a slightly different angle,
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but a Bastel Young and and and Andrew Young and
doctor King were coming from that different angle rolling when
they hit the poor Bogle's campaign about all people and
then they said the biggest group of poor people in
America then and now we're white poor people. People don't
know that. So we were all in this mess together,
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and he tried to get us out of this mess together.
He didn't make it do it first March, but that
didn't mean he didn't have the right business plan rolling.
I was there. I want to think doctor ben jabs
my friend, our friends for inviting me. I'm so glad
I went. But while they were and because I was last,
I was invited at the last minute. I didn't have
the same credentials as everybody else, which was fine with me.
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They said, you want to get his credentials. Say no, actually,
why don't you guys do that. I'm gonna go walk
Memphis I mean Selma, and and I went and walked
while the president was speaking. I'm so glad he came,
but I went and walked from the hotel to downtown Selma.
My mouth is on the ground. It's like time stood still.
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It's like it was nineteen sixty eight. Literally, no e commerce,
no sophisticated businesses. I'm not meaning not the operators weren't sophisticated.
That these were mom and pop operations using the most basic,
rudimentary tools to run out of business because clearly it
did not have access to capital. They had lots of hustle,
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but not like access to capital. Some of the best
food I've ever eaten, by the way. Oh and to
your point that doctor Shavis said, John, most of these
vendors here on the street overs I was. I was
on the street with nobody when those tours were at.
These were mostly not from Selma. They can they're from Atlanta,
they're from other places. They come here and we weren't asked,
and they were from Atlanta. They're everybody else, just like
he said, So it's not even local economics. On that
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day rolling the credit score is six fourteen to six
forty in Selma. You can't get access to capital that way.
You can't get a decent Carlon at six fifteen or
six twenty. You get a Mercedes Is Mercides payments. You
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can't get a decent mortgage to become a homeowner under
six eighty. There's not a credit score in Selma on
average at six to eighty. So the homeownership rate for
black folks there is probably twenty percent. How do you
build wealth in America? The number one right way? You're
not talked about this homeownership. We pull the equity out
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of your home to start a business, to send your
kids to college for a rainy day. But you got
storms coming and it was recently a natural disaster. They
have visited upon them not so long ago. Then everybody
still waiting with a FEMA money as if it's manner
from heaven. There's no economic development going on there and
hasn't been. And you can't start a business get a
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business loan less than seven hundred credit score, no matter
how nice you are, you pay a taxes, you go
to church every Sunday because it's risky credit. So if
half a black folks in America have a credit score
below six twenty, have it was a locked out of
the free enterprise system. But everybody in Selma is locked
out of the free enterprise system. Where is the march
on Capitol, not just the march on history. Where where
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is the campaign to organize the earning of task credit
for everybody in Selma qualifies for ei TC as a
free check for anybody who works it makes a few
thousand dollars a year or less, as you well know
rolland but one out of four people who qualify for
ei TC read black people never get it because we
don't ask for it, because we don't have a tax prepare.
You make thirty eight thousand dollars a year, got three children,
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The government owes you about seven thousand dollars catch if
you never filed. If you say what's the i TC, congratulations,
you get three years of it. That's what Roland was
almost twenty thousand dollars. About twenty thousand dollars. Then you
get three years of pandemic UH stimulus money for your
test credit. That three thousands per kid, that's nine grand.
You got thirty grand against the thirty five thousand dollars income.
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They go put the down payment in your house to
get your credit straight to to to send your kid
to college, to start a business. But we don't know
that because because no one's teaching is that. I'm not
talking about sophisticated stuff here, Roland, I'm talking about basics.
There's no I couldn't find that became a development department there.
Well understanding Selma hash UH has the highest unemployment rate
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of any city in Alabama. Um, we're talking about and see,
and I think what has to happen? I think what
has to happen? On the last things? The where I
was at the hotel that I think it's called the
Saint James, I think it is. It's a Hyatt, It's
the only it's the only modern development at the Pettis Bridge,
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by the way, that as you know, the Pettis Bridge
named after a Southern segregationists. Why is it still named
after a Southern segregationist? Hello, But the Edmund Pettis Bridge,
that whole area roller should be bustling with tourism, restaurants, cafes,
coffee shops, five different hotels competing for customers. There should
be a marketing campaign for the state of Alabama pushing
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people into Selma because of tourism. That this activity creates
GDP creates jobs, creates tax base, which creates more economic
opportunity in one thing like a like a fly will
spins off of it, all of each other and creates
more wealth. But there's a ghost town around that bridge.
I don't understand it. Right at the bridge, how could
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it look like nineteen sixty. So I'm not talking about
some sophisticated roland. I'm not talking about where blocks away,
although I walked there. I'm talking about, as you know,
right at the bridge, this one hotel running of food.
The hotel ran out of food, Okay, over to you now,
and and so what so what what I have been
saying is that if we're gonna if and we and look,
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if we're gonna talk about going back to Selma next
year fifty ninth anniversary, next year election year, this is
what I say call the major and in fact, here's
the whole deal John as opposed to other people doing it, fine,
I say we do it. We say let's say we're
gonna we're gonna call for the top CEOs in Alabama
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and some of the top companies in America to come
to other Sealma and say versus having again, because the
way it works, they have stuff on Friday, that they
have things on Saturday, works up on Saturday, and then
of course they have the the recreation on Sunday, Thursday, Friday.
I say economic conversation and Turk and saying, let's not
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come back for the sixtieth in twenty twenty five and
it looked the same here, and say, what's the labor
for us? What's education for us? How do we start
driving economic conversation? Because when John Luke comers, when John
Lewis was alive, I would see these Republicans come in
and these Democrats and they would take the bus tour
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and it would be like a field trip for them.
And I'm like, how the hell you go back to
DC and you come back to Selman next year and
then look the same and it sounds the same. We've
got to be having a different conversation, not just having
a recreation of the march every year. I think I
know the answer to the problem question rolling and I
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want to thank you for pricking me by the way.
It was you and doctor Ben Shavis. Ben Javis is
having the same conversation with me yesterday. He's equally frustrating
we thank the President for coming. Please don't if anybody
in the White House is watching this. We're not criticizing you.
We're thankful that you brought attention to this, or thankful
President Clinton before and Vice President Harris for coming, and
all the heroes and she ros we think for congressional
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Black Coccus leaders for coming. They were all their Maxine
Waters God bless her. And and uh, what's the gentleman
from north the North Carolina who's genius? Um um, it'll
hit me that. I mean, he's the dean of black politicians.
He was there, You mean clab without wish there'd be
no Biden presidency. We all know that doesn't get the
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credit he deserved. So and Sheila j accidentally thanks for
all of them coming. I'm not criticizing him. I've seen
to the peak missing where are the black business people?
Let's before we get to all business people. Why is
it that I was the only black businessman that I saw?
There may have been more there, but I was the
only black entrepreneur, a black business person that I saw there.
Thank you Ben Javis for inviting me. There should have
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been a hundred black business people there. To your point,
rowing and and if you had these tidy personalities who
are used to execution, the policymakers make policy, but there's
nobody secuting on a vision. Here. We're typing personalities. We
see a problem, we want to attach a solution to it. Okay,
we wouldn't have left there without giving ten thousand dollars
to a church to start up a screw programmer, a
financial literacy program. We want to left there without saying,
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let's do let's do a five king mark march next
year and then put somebody in charge of that, and
that would have created his own economic activity. And by
the way, who would have been in that five car
mark march? So of the white folks in Selma, So
it's because it was all black. By the way, it
should be an integrated situation around healing. That would have
brought them working on the development and integration of the
money there. And you had these hundred black people who
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come there as business people used to achieving, leaving us
saying I gotta do one thing, I gotta do something.
And then you start talking about the broader business community
you're talking about as well, But there was none of
them there that I could tell. So I'm not criticizing.
I'm saying it's set up to be historical in nature.
But what you need is for this to be about
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economic growth in nature. We need a civil rights movement,
just a civil rights movement. You need both. Well, Look,
I say, look, I'm a firm believer, not waiting on
somebody else to do it. Let's say let's do it
next year. And if those who don't want to show up,
it'll be very telling, and especially those who are already
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in Alabama. But I think we have got to pair
the economic piece with the political piece and have those
two come together. And so let's work on it and
let's make it happen. I would be honest to work
with you on that. PhD is good. pH dues, as
I said earlier, are better. There are customers there, There
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are clients there, There are employees there. There are brilliant
black people there who could become business owners and entrepreneurs.
You know that roll up. Our brilliance is everywhere. We
just need a shot. We need the education and financial literacy.
I was walking to the rolling Financial literacy has to
be the cheapest economic development plan on the planet, because
because what you're doing, you say, I can't solve racism.
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I can't say it solve police brutality, can't solve the bias.
But I can get your credit score up. I can
get you to understand what a budget is. I can
get you start arguing to your wife about money. I
can get you to understand your swing cash flow and
making making a profit and building wealth. You build wealth
in your sleep. I can get you to understand it
because you're smart, and I can teach you that so
you can do for yourself the James Brown version of
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a firmative actions open the door. I'll get it myself.
You have a whole population of folks getting it for themselves,
Rolling as you well know, and you'll create economic energy
and that grows GDP and tax based and solves all
the problems. Indeed, Jo Bryan found Operation Hope. We appreciate it.
Tell people what it can. Follow you, guys, Operation Hope
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Hope by name, but follow Rolling Martin, support his network,
subscribe to what we do and Rolling if you if
you organize that next year, count us in and we'll
help to get you. CEOs present at the meeting. And
some black entrepreneurs and one hundred black men and others
should rally all around what you're talking about. It's it's
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a radical movement of common sense. It is the next
We've got to move them just protesting in the streets
that we need that yep to business deals in this weeks.
That's it, all right, John, We're gonna work on it.
I appreciate it. Thanks a lot, Loving life folks got
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last year when I was in Selma with the the
Vice President March sixth of last year for the fifty
seventh commemoration. I'm want to bringing my panel right now
to talk to talk about this conversation because I really
and I just been at y'all. I really was a
little pissed off yesterday because we keep doing this and
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it drives me insane. At the Julian Malvo Dean and
College of Ethnic Studies, California State University in Los Angeles
atm Congo tobinga Senior propertorial Lecture, School of International Service,
American University. Rinda Shannon, former Georgiana State represented Black. They
have all three of you here. I'm sorry, Sorry, long
Victoria Burke with n NPA Jones. Sorry, folks, I'm gonna star.
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I'm gonna start with you, Julian. It continually pisses me off. Julian.
We go back to seldom, we go back to Memphis
and we have these recurring events and we play speeches,
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we talk about we recite what King said or John
Lewis said, or I mean, we can go on and
on and on. And I sit there and I'm like,
all right, the hotels were filled, car service restaurants, and
I always ask our black folks getting paid. Are we
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making money from this? And to me, it makes no sense.
I mean, all these politicians and I told y'all to
pull the photos of all the different polical people, letting up.
Y'all got that slide show all these folks. They're posting
photos being in Selma and I'm sitting here, going but
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where is the economic plan to rebuild Selma versus let's
go for the annual Edmund Pittis Bridge photo out, you know,
a rolling out with you, And I think John made
John Hope Bryant made some really good points. I'm sick
of it too, because if you have that many people there,
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that was an economic opportunity, why don't we have a
black hotel, black old hotel and so all those people
going there, why not that at least let a black
company make some money from that of catering all of that.
The problem is, I mean, we are so caught up
in the politics that we don't think about the economics,
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and we have they go hand in hand, and we
see that when you see people purchasing members of Congress,
purchasing them just like they buy a Tesla or something else.
Politics and economics go hand in hand. But you cannot
ignore economics. And time again in our community people ignore
the economics. There are so many opportunities that we're letting
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slide through our fingers because we simply will not pay
attention the economics. The point that John made about the
credit scores is a very frightening one. If the average
credit score for black folks and Selma is six something say,
I think he said, I don't know, I forgot six
twenty six thirty. That's pitiful. You can't buy a house,
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you can't get a credit card unless you prepay it.
So the economic pieces what we're missing. And I think
that those who organize these things would be well do
well if they would at least as you said, you said,
take a day or take two days, have some workshops
and bring some CEOs, let's hear what they have to say.
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And because after all, the denial of voting rights is
not just a black thing, it's a national thing. But
what do they see gils have to say about it?
They too are part of America. So we can't just
say this is a black event. We're going to walk
across the ridge. There's more to it than that. Absolutely,
And I just think Randa that if you're gonna have
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elected officials there for the photoop, you should be saying, hey, what,
I'm sorry, Lauren, Lauren, I'm sorry? What resources are you
leaving here? Yeah? Well, worse than that, it's not just
people at the Selma commemoration, as you know, Roland, it's
people who are in power who allocate money all over
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the country and all over the world. We just landed
one hundred and thirteen billion dollars in Ukraine to give
billions of dollars and humanitarianated around the world. United States does,
and yet there's no forward discussion with regard to towns
like some and the idea that people go back and forth,
back and forth every year, and the sort of performative
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politics that has increased as social media has increased, because
this thing is geared really toward photos and video, so
it's just sort of tailor made for performative politics has
made everybody ignore the real monuments to economic inequality, and
the real monuments economic inequality United States is the school system, obviously,
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the lack of you know, aid to cities like this,
and it's just sort of liked this forever. You know,
we were all aware of all these stories about the
water systems not working in some of these poor black towns,
particularly in the South, but also in Flint, Michigan. So
the idea that the people were going down there are
unaware of this is ridiculous. The irony and the sort
of silliness around some of these Republicans have gone down
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I think Tim Scott went down there you know, Kevin
McCarthy went down there one year. This is a fairly
absurd situation. Then they go back to Washington allocate billions
of dollars to everything except towns like Selma. That to me, though,
is a result of a lack of demand in the
black community from our leadership ranks. I mean, you have
to demand something of people to get something, and were
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oftentimes not demanding what is needed for a town like Summer.
You know, I'm gonna call and go I just think
that again. And I said this when I was there,
and it may have been twenty one, and may have
been twenty maybe in nineteen, I can't remember. And I
was I just said, guys, stop letting these politicians come
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here for the photo op and and nothing is done.
Stop it. Yeah, most definitely. And I felt like you Roland,
I was like, I'm not gonna watch this because everyone's
gonna say, Oh, President Biden came and he said the
right things. Of course he's gonna say the right things
because he has a speech writer, so they know what
to say when they get down there. But really, at
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the end of the day, our leader is urban Ly
Nash Apsion network. All of these books that are credential
to be walking across the bridge with the president. You know,
they need to Yes, yes, they commend them for that,
but they need to demand more than needs to be
a platform for next year. You know, Cliff Albright with
black voters matters say we have to do more. This
is time for Biden to go to the next level.
And sure, folks at the Biden White House will say, well,
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we're doing this for HBCUs and we're doing this. They're
doing a lot of good things for our community. But
we can't settle. And I feel like with the Biden
administration they have settled a little bit with what they're
doing because we've let them settle. Because we go with
these photo ops like he talked about, and we're talking
about some of a being over eighty percent black, and
when John is talking, he's talking about walking through there
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and it's looking like nugging and has changed in thirty
or forty years. But let an organize company like Marriott
or Coca Cola or something come in and say we
just want to renovate it and turn this into a
bunch of condos or something, then people are going to
be protesting. We have to be proactive rolling and get
down there with a real solid economic program. We're talking about, Smer.
You want to talk about Doctor King. How many times
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on the show roll and have you mentioned doctor king
economic message about how collectively we are rich, about how
we may need to boycott places like seal tests and
Coca Cola to get what we want. There was always
an economic message of empowerment and Doctor King's message and
we cannot forget that. And if we're going to continue
to go down there not have economic demands. As we
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walk over a bridge still named after a clansman and
member of the Confederacy, at the end of the day,
we are losing and they are winning. Our ancestors deserve more.
The people who are still with us, who fought during
that time deserve more. Selma deserves more than a day
with some decorations and some credential folks walking around. We
need to preserve the history for the future. Man. We
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have to do it the right way, and people need
to follow what you and John are demanding that we do. Folks,
It's just real simple. I mean, we can continue to
do the same things over and over and over again,
or we can actually demand for something to be done different,
and I dare say, do something that's done different. And
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I'm you know, I'm sitting here, I'm looking at my
I'm looking at my Twitter feed, go to my iPad,
and I'm sitting here. You know, I'm pulling up all
these different videos. I'm pulling up all these again, all
the videos of folks had of individuals walking and so
here are photos here and you see again all different folks.
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So who are in this photo? You see coms Woman
Maxine Waters, you see the President of Al Sharpton, cons
from Jesse Jackson senior son a Congressman Jonathan Jackson. Maybe
we can go on and on and on. And here's
the video as well. You got Kristen Clark there with
the Department of Justice. But y'all, I see my man
Mark Thompson's right there as well in the way. But y'all,
I'm telling you right now, we cannot continue to have
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civil rights commemorations if we're not going to be advancing
an economic agenda as well. Can't happen, simply cannot happen.
That mus also be our focus. We come back talk
about Chris Rocks, a special on Netflix. A lot of
folks had a lot to say. Okay, I got something
(41:11):
to say too. That's next. You're watching rolling by unfilter
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White people are losing their minds as a man. We
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approach Trump Mark storm to the US Capital, we're about
to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance.
We have seen white folks in this country who simply
cannot tolerate black folks the voting. I think what we're
seeing is the inevitable result of violent denials. This is
part of American history. Every time that people of color
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and meta progress, whether real or symbolic, there has been
the Carold Anderson and every union he calls white rage
as he questions, as the wives of the Proud Boys
and the Boogaloo Boys, America, there's going to be more
of this in all the Proud Boy of God. This
country is getting increasingly racist and its behaviors and its
attitude because of the fear of white people with pe
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that you're taking our job, for're taking our resources, you're
taking our women. This is white Field. I'm doctor Jackie
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I know who I am, and I know whose I am.
And when you know that, you're unstoppable because you're going
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Black Star Network, Hi, I'm Teresa Griffin. Hi, my name
is Latway Luckett, and you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered Smoke.
Y'all know what happened to me getting smacked by Sugar Smith.
(43:26):
Everybody knows. Everybody fucking knows, Yes, it happened. I got small,
like a year ago. Fucking last week, I've got smacked
and the fucking Oscars by this, by the fucker the
people I didn't hurt, it still hurts. I got summertime
ringing in my ears. Fucking drugs, please all y'all. Saturday night,
(43:57):
Chris Rock went live on Netflix with his Outrage special
and There's been a lot of folks who have been
commenting on social media sharing their thoughts and their folks
who are angry and upset. Chris used the N word,
they're angry and upset because he called Jada Pinka Smith
(44:22):
B word they're angry and upset that he alluded to,
or he talked about watching Emancipation the movie starting Will
Smith to see him get beat by white Man and
all that sort of stuff like that. All they upset,
y'all because he cracked jokes about Megan Markle as well
(44:44):
and all of that. So I'm just very curious Saturday night.
Was that a comedy show that happened Saturday night? Or
was he given a keynotee? Because I'm just trying to
understand why are people so mad that a comic told jokes.
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Let me be perfectly clear, I know Chris, I know Will,
I know Jada and the nobody wants to have jokes
made about them. But that's what comics do. I've been
in the show that I'm just understanding we are so
(45:38):
damn sensitive to I'm watching, Um, why why did this
comedy show take place in Baltimore? He's not from there.
That wasn't a personal affront to Jada because she's from there.
Why wasn't it's shot in Philadelphia. Y'all, comedians do comedy
shows in a lot of places. They ain't from. The
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Keys of Comedy, which was shot by Spike Lee, was
shot in Charlotte. Burnie mc ain't from Charlotte. Deal, ain't
from Charlotte, said, ain't from Charlotte. Steve Harvey ain't from Charlotte.
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So what the hell are we doing? Oh? I mean
the jokes he was do. I need to remind everybody
that one of the similar Chris Rock comedy specials that
is considered one of the greatest all time was I'm
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So Man. I loved the damn DVDs at home. It's
called Bring the Pain. In Bringing the Pain, Chris Rock
crack jokes about Aaron Barry being a crackhead. At the
Million Man March, he talked about Oja killed his wife
(47:11):
and said, I ain't said is right, But I understand
we can go on and on show this notion that
nobody can be made. Somebody I saw somebody say, well,
I'm just tired. I'm just tired of these comedians punching down.
That's what that's what they do. When I go to
(47:37):
a comedy show, I am not expecting a damn intellectual
debate between Cornell West and Michael are Dyson. I'm not
When I go to a comedy show, I am not
expected to see to see Thomas Soul and Julian malvol
(48:00):
give me a breakdown about micro and macro economics. When
I go to a comedy show, I'm not expecting to
see doctor Cynthia Hall and passing Jamal Briant give me
an extegesis of the text. I'm expecting to go to
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a comedy show to hear somebody get talked about, because
that's what comics do. If we really want to sit
here and stop playing these silly ass games. And yes,
I'm calling them silly games, because there's a notion that,
(48:42):
oh no, you can't talk about anybody really. Did comics
talk about Bill Clinton when he was president? Do comics
talk about how old Joe Biden is? Do other comics
talk about racism? Oh? Then you got all the folk. See,
here's part of the deal. We're now living in a
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world where news stories and think pieces are now being written,
where we are deconstructing the jokes, y'all, y'all, pull up
the tweets, The Daily Mail, Fox News, Megan Kelly, everybody
(49:29):
writing about pull it up, Pull it up, Come on,
Chris Rock, Megan Marcos royal racism claims in Comedy Special.
Sometimes it's just some in law shit. No no, no,
go back, go back. The root word is Comedy Special
(49:49):
and Mox. Then you got Meghan Kelly huss silly ass,
she goes. Chris Rock nails it. The Daily Mail story
Chris Rock slams Megan Marco for telling Oprah family was racist.
It's called joke. Now, y'all know who was interested all.
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Y'all got the Fox News tweet. Y'all got that one.
Pull out, that's Fox Fox News tweet, y'all. This is
the Fox News tweet right here. Now, y'all notice Fox
News and Fox News and Megan Kelly, they ain't say
shit about Chris Rock's joke about how white men are
not victims. Oh, I see if y'all didn't watch the special.
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First of all, I saw Chris and Saint Louis him
and Dave Chappelle so pretty much. He was practicing many
of these jokes, so I actually saw it. But I
did today watch the full special. Y'all notice all these
conservatives and the liberals, they had nothing to say. What
Chris Rock said? Oh what a white men were climbing
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the walls on January six, like the White Planet of
the eights were talking about that. Oh, Saint Chris Rock
talked about abortion. Yep, sure it did. The Saint Chris
Rock talked about raising kids, all kinds of stuff. But
I'm just trying to understand. When did we get to
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the point that we are expecting comics to be giving
us presidential level speeches and dissertations on life in America.
I can think back to Don Rickles, Rick Duke, amon Uh,
(51:41):
Monique Bernie. I mean, are we gonna go on? George Carlin,
We go on and on. Comics make jokes about all
sorts of people. Monique was used to crack own skin
even in then she cracked don't at women now a day?
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Who know? Why are you talking about skinny women and
fat women? We've had comedians talk about light skinned people,
dark skinned people. Hell, Chris talked about white women being
brought home at bringing a white man home? Yo, what
are we doing? Why are we as a society so
(52:24):
damn sensitive that we now are analyzing comedy shows as
if they are sermons. They're not. If you don't like
Chris Rock, don't take your ass to Chris Rock show,
(52:44):
real simple. If you don't like Lisa Lapanelli, and if
you didn't like Ralphie made and Who when he was alive,
If you don't like our Lisa Dieck, I go onn't on,
don't take your If you are so damn sensitive and
you don't want to hear joke about Nobody straight, Nobody gave,
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Nobody trans, nobody married, Nobody's single, Nobody rich, Nobody poor,
Nobody tall, Nobody's short, Nobody's skinny, Nobody fat, Nobody, light skin,
nobody dark skin. You won't talk about somebody with natural
hair process hair. If you don't want to hear any
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of those jokes, my suggestion is you don't go to
a comedy show. My suggestion is you don't watch comedy
specials or watch Comedy Central because you're likely going to
be offended. Comics always go after the joke. That's what
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they do. Why are we tripping because comics are doing
what they do. I'll talked about pant on the up
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(56:05):
as your boy Jacob Bladimore and you're not watching Roland
Martin right now? All right? Welcome back rolling on un
the Filtered I'm gonna call and go I just this
is one of the stupidest comments. This is what a
(56:26):
King Smith just wrote on YouTube. Brother Roland. People's feelings
are real. Comedians need to understand this also. Wow. You know,
I think one of the challenges here is that what
it really comes down to, particularly with black comedians and
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black entertainers in general, is that mainshime society takes our
black comics and looks at them as leaders in our
community being comedians. Stayed when when Steve when Steve Harvey
sorry wrote his book you know, act like a woman,
(57:09):
Think like a man. There people were calling him their
relationship expert as if they're not, you know, black relationship
experts out there. When Chris walk did the documentary Good
Hair a few years ago, people were talking about him
as a black hair expert. And when there's issues going
on in the civil rights in the black community, who
do people call Charles Barkley to get up there and speak.
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And then in places like Fox you get the diamonds
and silks, and so people take these folks who are
not serious as relationship leaders in our community, and because
they don't really respect black intellect and won't do the
work to call up the roll of Martins, or to
adopt the Malvosa or to Laurence like we have on
the Black Star Network. Every single day. They put these
guys in the place of our leaders, and then they
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attach all these expectations to them that they don't attach
to other comedians. As someone who teaches on a college campus,
I know that there are a lot of comedians of
all backgrounds, now what they who are scared to come
to campuses because they feel like they can't make jokes
because people are going to attack them. And I think
it's particularly high end for black comedians. And so I
feel like at the end of the day, I agree
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with you, we need to relax, and I think that
we can't get on our comics. I'm not saying comics
get a free pass on everything, but like you said,
they have a job, they have a role, and they
are not black leaders. They are not leaders in our community. Smart,
but they're not our leaders. Leave it or leave it alone, Jillian.
I had a professor who who I saw a comment
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today who said that that there as a photographer who
he follows and who does very tasteful um images, nude images.
He's a photographer and that, um, they say, poorn, this
is this is art. This professor liked one of the images,
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and several students complain to the professor's boss if they
felt unsafe because he liked the photo, and his boss said,
that's a grown ass man who can like what he
wants to like. How are you unseating? And so I'm
(59:19):
watching these people, and let me be real clear, I
absolutely get it. If you are, if you're Jada Picket Smith,
if you're Will Smith or have if you're anybody, you
don't want anybody mocking you, cracking jokes on you. But
I have seen numerous I have seen literally thousands of
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comedy shows where I have seen sports folks being mocked, actors, actresses,
political people, journalists, folks with no hair, little hair, lots
of hair. I mean, I've seen you. If we if
we are sitting here a comedy show, Julian, and if
(01:00:07):
I'm sitting next to you, and depend upon where we're
sitting a comedian, you never know, Mike crack on your
red hair and your light skin, Mike crack on my hair,
Mike crack on something Lauren wearing and and oh my god,
he's making them feel uncomfortable. Why does he have to
say that. I'm like, Yo, it's a fucking comedy show.
(01:00:30):
This is what comics do. I don't understand why people
don't understand. This is what they do historically present day
Red Fox, Richard Pryor, Mom's maybe Dick Gregory. I can
go on and on and on. My goodness, you know
(01:00:53):
Rolland one of my funniest memories I heard. I wanted
to see Robin Williams, remember him. They talked about ever.
He talked about me like a like a red headed
dog I had. I had the temerity to get up
to go to the restaurom, and he he said, why
is that itch go to the restaurom while I'm talking?
(01:01:14):
Hold on, stop right there, hold on, hold up, stop
right there. So you got first of all, anybody know
you didn't get your ass up? He on the microphone. Okay,
So so he called you the B word. You didn't
hop on Twitter and go. I'm offended. Robin, Robin Harris
called me out of my name. He insulted me. I
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cracked up big time. I thought the thing was hilarious.
I mean he not only I mean he got on
my red jacket. Red is my favorite color. He got
on my hair. He gotta be getting up. And then
he said, and she ain't got no man here either.
She looked like, hold hold on, Julian, stop right there,
stop right there, stop right there. So this woman, Jennifer Triplett,
(01:01:57):
this is what she just said. Can a woman please
step in and be a voice? This is crazy? Look
at Roland cussing. This is why I don't watch. But
you watching? Uh, she says. She says, there is comedy
and there is angrily called. She goes, there is comedy
and there's angrily calling a black woman a bitch. As
(01:02:17):
if Julian didn't you just didn't you just say that
robs you get any words? Yes he did. It talks
about me like a black you know, striping dog. Yes
he did. And what was hilarious is afterwards we're leaving
and he asked me. He asked me my name, and
he said, can I get a hug? So he wanted
(01:02:38):
to see if he got to me. He didn't get
to me. You go to a comedy show. That's what happened.
I do not like two things, and it depends on
went like, but sisters ain't contextual if you are, I mean,
I don't like women being called itches um in other settings,
and in comedy almost anything goes. I mean literally almost
anything goes. I don't like the use of the N
(01:02:59):
wordy there for any numbers here. In comedy, almost anything goes.
If you want to be politically correct, go to the
Smithsonian and see an exhibit. But you're not going to
get politically correct comedy. Now. There are some comedians who
are racist, and we you know, we want to hollow
about them. But I just I think Chris Rock, by
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the way, is just hilarious. So I didn't watch it
that you have motivated me to watch it. And quite frankly,
regarding William Jayda, they except themselves up for that. They're
very blessed. That's all. That's all he said. I mean,
come on, the brother punched um Chris Rock in public.
I mean, it's a one that he didn't say worse
about it. You know, I just want now, I want
(01:03:41):
to see a whole thing, because from what you've said
and the little clip police seen, it is hell area.
If you punch a comedian, they're gonna make a joke
out of it. Lawn Dave Chappelle got a taped all stage.
We went. I saw the show. Dave Chappelle got tact
on stage in La the Hollywood Bowl and he said, man,
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all my friends came out and they beat the shit
out of the dude. He said, no, he said, sorry,
Chris didn't about to come out and help. Yo, ask
when you gotta attack. I mean, it was it was hilarious.
But I'm sitting here, I'm literally sitting here and I'm
just not understanding people who are They're like parsing everything. Oh,
(01:04:25):
he mentioned colorism. He said, Draymond j Draymond Greene was
so dark he was sending right next to you. You
wouldn't new he was standing there right there, Chris's dark skin.
I mean, I just I don't get this hyper sensitivity
about everything. And we're treating comedians like they are again scholars, preachers,
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politicians and CEOs. Yeah, speaking of Dave Chappelle, actually thought
I watched it right before the show Chris Rock Special.
He reminded me a lot of Dave Chappelle. Actually thought
he was trying to pull a Dave Chappelle and some
of the topics he brought up, like abortion. But you
know the thing about this is that what I think
is driving this entire thing is that there is currency
(01:05:08):
and outrage. The way that these news organizations make money
is clicks through outrage. The way that these social media
sites get attention is clicked through outrage. So the entire
conversation every time somebody says something controversial is driven by
what can get attention and rolling. You know, you saw
Chris Rocks, you know special. He has a moment in
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there where he talks about how society is now addicted
to attention and the four ways you get attention, and
of course one of them was victimhood and showing your
ass and being infamous, and he's absolutely correct about that.
I mean, it's it's so, But attention is in the
society we live in now. The way the metrics work
behind the media business is that the clicks for outrage,
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the think pieces, the analyzing everything that everybody says, the
being angry about everything, the hitting the like button to
getting people to hit the like button. What gets people
to hit the like button is to be saying that
you're outraged about something. People spend all day on Twitter
doing that, okay, and that's how they get attention in
their life. So a lot of this sensitivity. I think
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what we would say is hypersensitivity in our society that
we didn't see previous two. Facebook and Twitter and everything else.
I think is actually driven by that, you know, by
that economy, by that creator economy, outrage economy, and there's
a lot of money behind that in a lot of ways.
So that's part of what we're seeing with the Chris
Rock thing. He did go in hard at the end
(01:06:36):
in that last ten minutes, obviously on Jada Pinkett. He
brought up a lot of things that'd already been previously
brought up. So I'm not sure why we're acting as
if this is new information. To be quite candid, I
really could care less about any of these people outside
the fact that there are movies that I like. I mean,
I loved Independence Day, I love a lot of things
PRIs Rock has done. But I really don't care about
celebrities that much. But I will say that I was
(01:06:59):
a little surprised, somebody who's not a huge, huge Chris
Rock fan, at the level of nuance that he brought
to this hour, you know, particularly around some of the
more controversial topics. But I did realize as I was listening,
this is exactly the type of thing. And I think
he's smart enough to realize that there's exactly the type
of subject matter that will drive a lot of think pieces,
(01:07:19):
a lot of attention, and a lot of concert bookings
for him. And everybody gets fed all the way around,
not only just him, but the media and everything that
drives the creator outrage. Clickbait economy is perfect example this,
Saint Jennifer Triplett. Do we not operate by a certain
code of conduct? Let somebody call it daughter Lola a bitch. Okay,
(01:07:41):
here's a perfect example. Go to my iPad. Kevin Hart
did a special during COVID and he made a comment
about his teen daughter and oh my god, Kevin Hart
said this about his team daughter and he was like,
y'all serious. He's a comedian comedians. The other day I
(01:08:03):
saw a three minute long video that was utterly hilarious.
A Rotteney danger feel cracking jokes about his wife flit
out hilarious. I have seen comedians jokes about their husbands.
I've seen people go in on all sorts of different
(01:08:25):
things and we are so sensitive. Oh my god, you
shouldn't say that. And say that again, let me be
very clear, y'all. Julian said it, I don't like the
N words. Somebody hit me with Roland, how did you
feel you don't you block people for using the INN
word while you're at the show. I'm like, duh. First
of all, if hell, if that's the case, it's a
(01:08:46):
bunch of music I can't listen to, Okay. So it's
not like I'm sitting here going, oh my god, I'm
just removing everything. Here's the problem, folks, The problem, the
fundamental problem that we have today is that we're trying
to judge certain people on certain things, and not all
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things are equal. Now, when Michael Richards was on stage
and Michael Richards went after the audience member using the
N word, here's what he did. He literally left the cop.
I was on CNN and I said this with Paul Mooney.
He left the confines of the stage. He wasn't doing
(01:09:28):
his stage work, He left the confines of his stage
and was attacking that man personally. Different deal now, and
he wasn't even responding to a heckler. What Julian described
was Robin Harris's style. When you went to that club
in Los Angeles, everybody knew if you sat up front,
You in trouble. If you got up you in trouble.
(01:09:52):
What did Robert Harris say, Put the light on the
everybody know that. That's what Julio laughing she was there,
he would go, hey, put the light on them. So
I'm just trying to understand what we've got. Somebody told me, well,
Chris and these other comedians, they've not evolved. No, maybe
(01:10:16):
the problem is we've evolved so much we actually forgot
what comedy is all about. They rip, and they make
fun of everything and everybody. Nothing is off limits for comedians.
(01:10:37):
And I've always said the beauty of the sanctity of
the comedy stage is that they will literally talk about
anybody and anything at any time. And you know what
their job is because I've interviewed too many comedians they say, Roland,
if I get the laugh, I've done my job. And
(01:11:01):
so I see y'all comments. And so, if you don't
like Chris Rock, don't watch him. You don't like Dave Chappelle,
don't watch him. If you don't like any comedian style
or tone. I heard Chris Rock, Who's angry, y'all, that's
actually part of Chris's style. How he how he walks
(01:11:24):
around the stage, how he looks. It's different styles. Bill
Cosby killed by sitting in a chair for two hours,
and the other comedians will go, damn the brilliance of
doing an entire show sitting in a chair, y'all, that's
(01:11:47):
what comedians do. I just hope people again. If you don't,
you can his deal. You have a First Amendment right
to criticize anything that you want, but give comedians the
same right and the same liberty to do what they
do on the stage, because that's who they are. You're
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watching Roland Martin unfiltered on the Black Sun Network, Hatred
on the Streets, a horrific scene white nationalist rally that
descended into deadly violent White people are losing their minds
(01:12:32):
as a name. We approach Trump Mark Storm to the
US Capital, we're about to see the lives of what
I call white minority resistance. We have seen white folks
in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks the voting.
I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of
violent denials. This is part of American history. Every time
(01:12:54):
that people of color and being a progress, whether real
or symbolic, there has been the Carol Anderson and Reuniversity
calls white rage as the Black Blushes is the wife
of the Proud Boys and the Bogaloo Boys America. There's
going to be more of this, all the Proud boy
This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and
(01:13:14):
its attitudes because of the fear of white people, the
feel that you're taking our job, they're taking our resources,
they're taking our women. Differing white Field, Black Star Networks,
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a real old revolution there right now. Thank you for
mean the Boys of Black Apparent a moment that we have.
Now we had to keep this going, the video of
phenomena between Black Star Network and Black owned media and
something like CNN. You can't be black owned media and
be scared. It's time to be smart. Your eyeballs dig Hi, everybody,
(01:14:05):
This is Jonathan Nelson. Hi, this is Shery Lee Ralph,
and you are watching Roland Martin unsilty. All right, I
gotta do one thing first before I bring up my
next guest. And I told y'all I pay attention to
(01:14:27):
everything that goes on on this show. Did I'll tell
y'all that, then I tell y'all that want you'll want
y'all to go to my iPhone please. So while we
were talking about the last subject, Anthony asked, got in
my ear and said, Robin Williams, Oh, you thought I
missed that? High You thought I missed it. Julian did
(01:14:47):
not say Robin Williams. She didn't say Robin Williams. Hey, Julian,
you say Robin Williams and Robin Harris. I meant Robert Harris.
I know who the hell you were talking about. But
Andrew's like, she said, Robin Williams. I'm like, Robert Williams
didn't do that. I said, babies, kids, y'all. If I said,
(01:15:11):
and don't know who Robert Harris is, that's my damn point.
That's why, y'all ass he's about to pick a up player.
He don't know. That's why. That's why his thirty what
would you? Thirty three thirty five? He didn't kick your
ass up. He thought I missed that, y'all. Come on,
cut to the other switch, y'all. That's right, you thought
(01:15:33):
I missed it. So I said, let me come back
to that, because no, I ain't missed that, all right, y'all.
So y'all know I had to yeah, y'all thinking, Oh,
I don't miss nothing gonna get my asses, said damn
Robin Williams. She met Robin Harris. All right, y'all, Prince
is uh that several years ago. But the reality is
he is at the center of a Supreme Court case.
(01:15:55):
That's right. Uh, this thing's gone over the Supreme Court.
So there's an Andy Warhol silkscreen print. He was very
famous for these images, and so he did this here.
Now the Andy Warhol print, y'all, silk screen print is
based upon a photo that was taken on the left.
The photographer took that photo for Vanity Fair magazine, was
(01:16:15):
paid for it, and then when Prince but they never
used it. When Prince died, they actually they actually used
the was on the right, the Andy Warhol silk screen
image for special edition on Prince Well. The photographer then
sued saying that that was her work. This is a
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copyright infringement and so therefore they should not have been
allowed to use it. So this thing has been going
on and on and on and so the whole idea
of copyright law, the whole idea of trademark law, is
quite significant and real weird in terms of trying to
really understand it. And so what you're now dealing with
is this thing is like again going to Supreme Court,
(01:16:58):
and this could have huge ramification if you will ford
again artists, photographers, videographers when it comes to who own
something and how can you alter an image? And so
joining us right now is Shay Law since she's an
IPA entertainment attorney with the law for McKinley in Atlanta.
(01:17:19):
And I know people watching i'd be saying this is
the pre and core case don't mean nothing. But for
creative people, this is a huge, huge case. We're talking
about art photos and things along those lines. Roland, this
is it because they are basically arguing that because Warhol
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was famous, this is now transformative and he has the
right to a copy. So if being famous gives you
a rights a copy, this is a sad day for
all creatives, all little people out there. And but folks
don't understand here, and people don't realize this here when
you sign up for a lot of these social media
services there And there was a Washington Post story and
(01:18:01):
I think did we have you all talking about it
last time? I can't remember where there was a guy
who was taking images from Instagram and was doing exactly
what a Warhol did, sort of manipulating them and said
and was selling it for twenty and thirty thousand dollars.
And he was like, oh no, no, no, he said,
I manipulated it so that the original piece. And then
(01:18:25):
your people don't realize they're turning over their actual rights
to their own photos when they set up a lot
of these social media folks. It's a shame, and people
just don't know, probably haven't gotten their stuff copyrighted. Luckily,
lying Goldsmith, she's been in the game forever, done hundreds
of album covers, so she had her stuff protected by copyrights,
(01:18:45):
so she could even bring this lawsuit. But just because
people put that little stamp on the bottom that says
this is a fair use. No copyright infringement intended does
not mean that you have the right to do whatever
you want to to it. No, the original person and
who made it has the only right to say that
you can change this, that you can modify it, that
(01:19:06):
you can make a derivative work of it. See one
of the things that that bothers me. And you've seen
this before, where where you have some entertainers who were
posting an image that was shot on them and the
photographers like they're trying to sue the artists and artists like,
I'm sorry, hold on, that's me. You don't get how
are you going to profit off of me because you
shot me when it's me. We talked about that, Yeah,
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that's what we talked about, Roland. We've talked about that
with Nady and jay Z and the photographer suing. And
the thing is people, to your point, ip is very tricky.
The difference between trademark, copyright rights to publicity, name, image likeness,
they are all different things, and it would be really
(01:19:51):
messy if a princess of state got involved in this
as well, to say that you're profiting off of his name,
image likeness and he only sat for this one photo.
But I know that's not I know that's not a
part of the case. But but but but that could happen. Yeah,
it could, It absolutely could, and they wouldn't be wrong
(01:20:11):
for coming to get their coins. I mean, in fact,
in fact, the king of state. One of the things
about I remember remember when Bernice King was head of
the curreta Scott King of State. Her brother was head
of the MLKA State and when she wanted to publish
a book with Barbara Reynolds of letters from her mama.
(01:20:35):
Her brother when after her ensued by saying, because daddy
wrote the letters, that's the MLKA State's letters. And She's like, wait,
but the letters with the mama. So even though she
was over the Coreta Scott, King of State, he asserted
rites over those letters because they were written by m Okay, again,
(01:20:58):
if you are the creator, you are the owner of
a copyright. Now it's messy and unfortunate that siblings sued
each other, right, but yes, when you are the creator
of something, you are the owner of it. And then
copyright registration is what gives you the right to enforce
in court when somebody steals your stuff. But yeah, just
because you have something in your possession, just because you
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copied and pasted it from Google, just because you downloaded it,
you screenshoted, it doesn't make it yours to remake. Okay,
So I go to questions. Each question believe to be quick.
So how do Okay, So I shoot a lot of video,
I shoot a lot of photos. So what does a
person do you have to do? You have to copyright
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each specific photo? What do you have to do. I mean,
how do you protect yourself. There's multiple ways you can
protect yourself. Sure, if they're one offs, you can go
copyright dot gov and file your copyright for the individual pictures.
But if you have a series of pictures, a collection
of pictures, the Copyright Office does allow you in one
application to file for a collection of photographs and the
(01:22:07):
fees are as cheap as sixty five dollars. But if
you don't have that registration, people always talk about a
poor man's copyright and they're like, oh, well, I've mailed
it to myself, no, or I have no. No, you
need to file it with the copyright office because they
will kick you on out of court and tell you
to go file it and come back. Question long your
first Yep, So I'm a contract photographer for Associated Press.
(01:22:30):
Of course I've been a little bit more aware of
copyright than most people. You probably remember Shay the Chef
Ferry case with the Obama Hope poster where you know,
you know, the artists got busted because of course there
was an ap photo. But I want to know what
you think about. You know, elected officials were typically not
their image and likeness is not really like a celebrity
(01:22:54):
in terms of their typically and of course public spaces
where copyright is not the same that you really open.
Have you noticed that there's an infringement now they're trying
to basically change that Donald Trump did with these NDA,
with these basically agreements that staff could not take the
content of what they were working on and make money
(01:23:15):
off him. Are you seeing that more with elected officials
because the celebrities I can understand, but elected officials are
starting now to get a little funny about their image
and likeness. Are you seeing that? You have to see
that Donald Trump still sees himself as a celebrity. He
doesn't even care that he was president, like that's just
another step on his walk to fame, his ascension to
(01:23:38):
the ultimate family he's looking for. So he's still keeping
those celebrity rules in his mind. You're absolutely correct that
most of the time when you were in a celebrity setting,
if you work for somebody, if you're a nanny and assisting,
you are definitely signing an NDA saying you are not
about to go take my business and go make a
tell all book about it. But if you are the president,
think about President Obama's photographer. I can't think of what
(01:24:02):
its name is right now. It's like on the tip
of my time. I want to say Peter Salzah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. He just recently published a book. Right, um
Yarra who was on black Ish, her dad was Prince's photographer.
I think that he published a coffee table book of
images of Prince. Right. There are certain circumstances where you
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are granted access and via that relationship with that person,
you can release commercial work that benefits you. But when
you are a politician, when you are a public figure,
you are what's considered newsworthy, and typically no, you can't
just make people sign NDA's because you're in the public eye. Right. Well,
first of all, and like one of the things that
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Oprah did when she had photographers who were hired when
she her show, her televin show, she hired them and
she owned the photographs. Her deal was, I'm paying you
to shoot I own all the images. In fact, when
I did when I did her radio show on Serious XM,
I was the guest, they gave me a copy and
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said I could not even air or play or do
anything with the show without their permission, And I was
the guest and so other folks try to that are
gonna happen, Julian, watch your question. So I was read
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the Supreme Court filing and it just seemed to me
to be very weak. As you said earlier, they kept
saying because Warhol is famous, because he's done this before,
because he's done it before, and it doesn't seem to
me hold any to hold any water. Is this case
likely to really? Is a Supreme Court really gonna hear it?
And what's likely to happen? Because again I'm not employ
hearing it. They're hearing it. They heard it. They are
(01:25:48):
waiting on the decision. Actually, so they heard it. There
are really great audio clips of Clarence Thomas actually talking
about how he was a Prince fan, was a Prince
fan in the eighties. He said only on Thursday Nights
now that he's a fan. But we're just waiting on
the decision right now, and it is huge, doctor Malbo.
(01:26:09):
The Supreme Court hasn't really talked about this since the
Two Live Crew case. I'm not sure if you remember
the Two Live Crew Pretty Woman based where was this transformative?
And that's the argument that they're making. They're saying, well,
we cropped Prince's body out. They put painting on him.
It was a mask. It changed the messaging, and Goldsmith
is saying, listen. Art is subjective anyway. People get multiple
(01:26:33):
messages from the same picture all the time, so you
just can't come and say because you're famous, I changed
the meaning. It's transformative and fair use. And again Luther
Campbell won that lawsuit and people people forget you were
about in his book. Michael Jackson actually filed an amicus
brief against Luther Campbell, and many other artists did as well,
(01:26:56):
because any more people making mocking their songs. Mcconnoll real
quick with your question. My question is for us in
a social media space, do we completely give up all
of our rights forever for things that we post that
they can do whatever they want. Is that's still the
case today. The assumption is when you post something on
an Instagram or a TikTok that you are giving them
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a license and therefore other users a sub license to
maybe repost. Think about Instagram has a remix where they're
encouraging people to remix sure work, So understand where you
are uploading your content, it's going to dictate what other
people can do to it. If you do not want
other people to modify your content, then it is best
(01:27:40):
served on maybe a platform like a Vimeo or YouTube
where you can enforce your copyrights and you can enforce
the fact that you don't want others to modify. But
the important step there keeps going back to file your
copyright registration. All right, then we surely apprecate you joining us.
Thanks a lot, Thank you, roland Ate, thank you. Got
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Roland Martin Unfiltered. Nearly sixty percent of black women, folks,
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it is twenty two older suffered from heart disease American
Heart Association. Since cardiac arrestcues, more people world wide and
all forms of cancer, influenza, pneumonia, auto accidents, HIV, firearms,
and house fires combined. But one out of ten of
those who experienced cardiac arrests survived joined US downs. Linguished
doctor l Nightshaw Adams from Austin tell us about how
(01:30:52):
she survived sudden cardiac arrests. First of all, glad to
have you here in more ways than one. So um, women,
you know, women experience a different from me, And so
what happened with you? Yeah? So hi, I'm so happy
to be here. Thank you so much for having me.
I had COVID pneumonia, and I didn't know that I
(01:31:14):
had COVID pneumonia. My children I have a two and
a four year old, and my entire family came down
with COVID. I was the sickest of everyone, and for
about two weeks just completely out of it, Like I
don't recall doing much other than waking up to go
to the restroom and drinking water. After three weeks, I
(01:31:36):
started feeling better and I sat down to watch something
on TV and then I woke up in the ICU. Wow,
So you don't recall feeling anything. You don't recall blunking out. Nothing, nothing, No.
And actually nine out of ten people who suffer cardiac
(01:31:58):
arrest end in fatality, and the majority of them don't
have symptoms. And how I was able to survive was
my husband, my wonderful husband, David Foss. He performed CPR
and he's CPR certified, he's in the health profession, and
he was able to revive take quick action to go
through the process of the CPR to revive me, and
(01:32:21):
then the emergency responders came and had to work on
me for about half an hour before I was transported
to our nearest hospital. Wow. And again you know when
you've been doing your research there again, the symptoms that
we've heard really vary in terms of so for some
(01:32:43):
women it may actually they actually make experience it, you know,
a tingling or whatever overpeered or several days before something
actually happens. Yes, I had no symptoms that in fact
the day that had happened January twenty nine, twenty twenty two.
So I'm just now over the one year anniversary. I
was in a coma for about a week. I was
(01:33:04):
in ICU for two weeks, but the day that had happened,
I felt I journal quite a bit, and I remember
writing that compared to how I felt at the beginning
of the year when I got COVID, that was I
felt the best that day. Actually, I was very happy.
My sense of taste and smell came back, and I
physically felt so good. And it turns out I had
(01:33:27):
COVID pneumonia and as a result of that, my heart
was my systems were overloaded, my heart stopped. I didn't
have a heart attack, which is different than a sudden
cardiac arrest, and I need to be revitalized to make
it back. And we also know that, I mean, you know,
one of the issues that we've heard with COVID and
(01:33:49):
increase in heart attack things along those lines. Doctors are still,
you know, assessing the long term implications of folks who
have had COVID, and so this is something that I
was being taught about, you meaning medical circles. Absolutely, and
I've been tracking the data quite a bit. You know,
for women over twenty years and older black women, we
(01:34:10):
have a rate sixty percent of us suffer from cardiovascular
disease of some kind. Hypertension, you know, high blood pressure
is the leading cause of it. There's a lot of
question about it. Earlier today, I was watching your obesity
the special obesity, which I think is very important for
people to understand, is not a medical condition, and it
is a medical condition and not a behavioral issue, which
(01:34:33):
historically it's been perceived as such. And I think when
we're talking about our demographic of people and what we
suffer from, it's very important to think not just about
individual choice, but also the systemic and political factors that
impact health outcomes. I mean, this is so important and
for me, I think about it every day now. I
(01:34:55):
have a heart condition that I have to manage and maintain,
and long COVID for me something quite different than just
a cough or you know, a small symptom. I mean,
I have to have to do a lot of things
to make sure I'm healthy and I'm able to still
live a full life. Questions Rob Pound Julian you first, Well,
(01:35:16):
first of all, I'm so happy that you're here with us.
Congratulations on your recovery. The question that I have for
you is what warnings? Aren't they any warning size that
someone would have about cardiac arrest? Or it just happens,
and that means you can't prepare for it, can't do
anything about it. Just help me out with that. Yeah.
(01:35:37):
I think my cardiologist he often helps me put things
into perspective and he says, you know, you want to
be as heart healthy as possible, right, So being heart
healthy needs staying physically active, being physically fit. I have
a two year old and a four year old, so
the only time I've ever been in the hospital was
to give birth, and so I have a hard time
(01:35:59):
wrapping my mind around it. Someone who's under forty having
had this happened too. But I think it's important to
just stay on top of being heart healthy and monitoring
your health, be preventative before things get into a situation. COVID,
you know, is a mysterious factor here. For a lot
of us, it affects us in a terrible way. And
(01:36:21):
for some of us, you know, for black folks, we
died at an alarming rate two and a half or
three times higher than other groups. So we really just
have to say set fast with monitoring our health. Long. So, yeah,
jumping off of doctor Malvo's question, so you are sitting
down and watching TV and then when to cardiac arrest
(01:36:42):
and they did they ever determine that it was directly
related to COVID or was that just the obvious assumption
and everybody moved on after that. Yeah, my cardiologist that's
his determination. And there's quite a bit of research that
is coming out about how COVID can cause my condition,
(01:37:03):
which is called dilated cardio on myopathy. It means I
have a damaged heart and COVID has been shown to
cause that. I don't have any genetic markers for it.
No one in my family has heart issues, and so
I had I gave birth two years ago and I
wasn't screamed for it. So it is kind of a
(01:37:23):
mysterious thing in My cardiologist thinks it's a direct result
of COVID. Thank you so much to our Katasphy your
advocacy and raising the alarm on this. My question is
for somebody who when we talk about strokes, we will
talk about the signs and I'm grabbing their you know,
left side and stuff. Are there signs that people should
look for if somebody next to them might be experiencing it?
(01:37:46):
You know, I start to change, there's a breath, like,
what could we do to maybe pay attention if it's
happening to someone's right next to us, If the breath changes.
If you know what I was told was and an asked,
you know, did you have shortness of breath? Did you
start feeling faint? Did you feel like you were gonna
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heel over? And the only thing I recall, like I
said earlier writing my journal, because I felt really great
and I wanted to rest in that moment, and I
was just with my two and a half year old son.
My husband went to get a pizza, and it was
lights out for me. All right, then, Well, first of all,
we are glad that you're here. You're absolutely right, folks,
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must be very vigilant. There are many of us who
do have the signs. A lot of people ignore those
signs and they just sort of just plowed through. The
reality is if you had that sensation or that pounding
of the chest, I think it's on those lines, seek
immediate attention, because he better be safe than sorry. Absolutely,
thanks a lot, We appreciate it. Thank you so much
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for having me. All right, folks, gotta go to break
we come back. Creed sets all sorts of records big up.
Some I could be Jordan's I'll explain coming up next.
And also it's a bunch of crazy people. Out of here, boy,
I got some nutcase stories for you. I'll cover those next.
I was supposed to do on Friday. My dad I
keep texting me telling about the time for these stories.
I got you, all right, it's my show. I got it.
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And all of a sudden and Anthony just so y'all know,
y'all he didn't know who the hell two Live crew was.
I can't stand these damn millennials. We'll be back. I'm
doctor Jackie here on a balanced life, and I've got
a pop quizz for you. Who are you? Where are you?
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And how are you doing? These are three important questions
that you should be asking yourself every day. I can't
be authentic with you if I'm not being authentic with myself.
I know who I am, and I know whose I am.
And when you know that, you're unstoppable because you're going
to show up as your authentic self, no matter the
room that you're in, discovering the true you and the
culture around you. That's next on a balt It's like, oh,
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Black Star Network. Next on the Black Table with me
Greg car we feature the brand new work a Professor
Angie Porter, which simply put is a revolutionary reframing of
the African experience in this country. It's the one legal
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article everyone and I mean everyone should Professor Porter and
doctor Felipia Watkins, our Legal round Table team, join us
to explore the paper that I guarantee is going to
prompt a major aha mood in our culture. You crystallize
it by saying, who are we to other people? Who
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are African people to others? Governance is howard thing? Who
are we to each other? The structures we create for ourselves,
how we order the universes African people. That's next on
the black table. Here on the black starting. Hello everyone,
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I'm going free, and you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. And
while he's doing Unfiltered, I'm practicing the wobble. Y'all, big
(01:41:31):
shout out to my man Michael B. Jordan's huge weekend
for him and the movie Creed. Let me tell you
how big a weekend it was, of course, dybut this weekend,
come on roller video, y'all. It debut this weekend, y'all. Slow,
let's go move it it, Dybut this weekend, y'all, and
this is how huge it was. It was a fifty
eight point six million dollars weekend one hundred million worldwide,
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the biggest opening of any Creed or Rocky movie, the
biggest opening ever for a sports movie, the biggest opening
ever for a black director in that directorial debut, the
biggest opening ever for a movie produced by Amazon. So
absolute shout out to Michael B. Jordan. HiT's a team,
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his team at Citian Works, Renee Spellman, all the partners there.
They did an amazing job promoting the movie. And so
give it up for Michael B. Jordan and Jonathan again
a head of pairing their folks and so Creed three amazing, amazing,
and so just want to give that shout out to
the brother who's doing amazing, amazing work. All right, y'all,
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my dad keeps texting me for these damned stories. We suppose.
I'm like, look, you hit me one more time. I'm
gonna make me because I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go
Chris Rock Now, I just kidding, y'all. All right, let's
get right to it. We get our crazy. We got
a whole list of crazy stories. But take this one out.
A Republican lawmaker in Florida has always Florida literally has
introduced a bill that would eliminate the state's Democratic Party. Yep, yep,
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his name is Blaze. In Guglia, he proposed State Bill
twelve forty eight, well the Ultimate Cancel Acts, requiring the
state's Division of Elections to cancel the filings of any
political party whose platform had previously advocated for or being
in support of slavery or involuntary servitude. The bill would
allow any cancel political parties to reregister with the Florida
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State Department, but only under the condition at the party
changes its name. He said the new bills designed to
get back at Democrats and left his activists trying to
cancel people in companies for things they have said or
done in the past. Lauren, anybody would have reminded us
full which party today supports the Federary monuments. Well, you see,
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this is the extension of the Republican Party's strategy, basically
to win elections by doing something other than convincing people
to vote for them. So in Florida, they've actually been
doing well, the Republican Party lately, but they're so afraid
of losing, you know, by having actual vote counts and
actual you know, polling places where we like count the
(01:44:08):
votes and do democracy today has come up with crazy
stuff like this, and that's what they do. Okay, here's crazy.
A former Atlanta Yes, Atlanta fire chief has suggested that
slavery was a part of God's plan for America. This
speech took place at a Georgia Department of Labor event. Yep,
Kelvin Cochrane, who caused controversy for his perceived homophobia, was
(01:44:32):
invited to speak and a Black History of My celebration
hosted by the Georgia Department of Labor. This dumbass took
the opportunity to explain how America was a part of
God's divine plan. Listen to this always has no reason
for the things that He allows. Listen to this. Brace
yourselves mind, black brothers and sisters. Slavery in America did
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not chech God by surprise. In his sovereignty, God listen
allowed Africans to be brought to America as slaves. Africa
was on the eve of social, spiritual and economic catastrophe
and famine still going on today, So he brought six
(01:45:15):
million Africans to America through the Middle Passage as slaves,
just as it was God's divine went to enslave the
nation of Digitel. It was his sovereignty that allowed Africans
to be brought to America in bundage. Yeah, I might
(01:45:37):
have called this segment this motherfu Okay. Conquerin was fired
as fire chief in twenty fifteen for concerns were raised
over the book who told You that You were Naked?
He gave to a support Sportiness. He later won a
one point two million dollar wrong de termination settlement against
the city. In former mayor Casim read, um, I'm a conga,
I don't know what the hell at food talking about.
(01:46:00):
This is the stuff that people should be outraged about,
talking about all of this stuff relating to comedians, that
this man would man, that this man would get up
there and preach this ignorance and this nonsense, and people
in the crowd reacting to it. This is the stuff
that's dangerous rolling because we have people like this every
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day in all walks of life, in our schools, in
our churches, in our communities, spouting this ignorance and just
factually wrong on everything. Everything from Africa as a continent
was dealing with major instability at that time, up to
the idea about that that God allowed it. And we're
talking about everything going on in Ron de Santis and
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banned books and so on and so forth, and here
you come with this man basically giving credence to everything
that these white folks who are out there trying to
destroy our history and remove our culture. He's justifying it
by basically saying we were savages before we got here,
and thank God that they got inside of that dark continent.
And this type of conscientious stupidity is rampant. And and
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I'm glad you showed this because it should be mind
folks that it's not just the the sentences of the
world who are trying to actively disrespect and disregard our history.
And for what rolling people in the audience to have
shut that down. But I'm glad we're here to do
it now. Yeah, I would have cussed his ass out
right there. I'm just letting anybody know, all right, y'all,
a Tennessee lawmaker is apologizing for suggesting hanging by a
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tree to execute death row inmates. Yeah, watch this. You
represent the powers for bringing this. I think it's a
very good ideal. And I was just wardering about could
I put amendment on that it would include hanging by
a tree. Also, and also I would like to sign
on your bill's turt Paul Scherell made the comments during
(01:47:59):
the House More Justice Committee meeting Tuesday. I remember they're
talking about creating allowing firing squads to take place. He
is apologized, so he released this statement here, y'all flash it.
I ain't reading that bullshit, Julian. I just have to
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ask hell five thousand, about five thousand black folks that
baby More were honed by trees. This spit is repugnant,
and he's a legislator. Somebody needs to start a recall
election on his high parts. I mean, and I'm trying
very hard not the curse. Role tried very hard not
the curse, because that's some ignorance. In Tennessee had the
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eighth highest recorded number of lynchings of innocent black people
between eighteen eighty two and nineteen sixty eight. Tennessee was
the home of r To B. Wells, where they ran
her out of there simply because she chose to file
the fireball her newspaper. The reason there is not today
a actual copy for a newspaper. They blew up the building.
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And so this man, I mean, he I guess he's
in the land of cotton and he's happy to be there.
But this is why, this is why we must have
black history, It's why we must have ethnic studies. It's
why we must teach our young people the truth. And
if it's not being taught to public schools, we must
advocate for it to be taught to the public schools.
But we must also teach our young people at home,
(01:49:28):
in our churches wherever we can. The sororities and fraternities
need to be teaching our young people. Have so many
folks that need to do this because it is absurd.
It is literally absurd, it's repugnant. My mom passed in
twenty one. I inherited ten thousand books. One of my
sisters got in music. But anyway, I got the books,
(01:49:51):
ten thousand books. That's in the environment I grew up in.
So I didn't need any tell me about racist and
I had read about it as soon as I could read. Right.
But a lot of how about young people are growing
up in homes without books. Yep, they can't yep, And
I understand that full history. Now, let me show y'all
this here. If y'all want to see racism how about
this here, brothers are actually scraping snow. This racist as
(01:50:15):
white woman didn't want She kicked the snow back on
the sidewalk. Who seriously, man, because we cleaned off your sidewalk,
your sidewalk. So you mad because we cleaned off your sidewalk.
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I don't. We're helping you with like you mad because
we cleaned off your sidewalks around? We cleaned off your side. Well,
it's a public sidewalk. We cleaned it up for you,
all right, are you that? Jeez do if you're real,
(01:51:02):
if you're a real Christian, you don't have to be
so you calling them? What are you calling a police
for it? That's property? Put them, Put them one. This
is the sorry work. This is a public side walk.
Put them on speaker. This is a public side walk.
If you own his home video seven minutes. Let me
be real clear, I Am not going to reason that
(01:51:25):
long with a racist as white woman. Ain't gonna happen. Lauren,
she wore her damn snow. I'm like, all right, script
that shit yourself. This is what I'm doing. I apparently
she had been harassing them and threatening it for fifteen years,
(01:51:45):
lost time living next to a living next door to
a bigot. Yeah, how about that? I mean, I just
I just think some of these windows into American life,
though interesting or not, you know, thank god, not representative
of most people. Man, just the crazy people out there.
There's crazy people out there, and they're easy to get
on video. And you know, I mean, it's it's crazy,
(01:52:06):
it's petty. I would have just like gone on to
the next thing and really not cared. But it is
a some of these things are very interesting and scary
looking to human nature and racism in America. I told
y'all when I was in the ass Chicago airport and
I want to sit down on that shoe shot staying
at homeboy after the food and cuss me out, and
I was like, I'm sorry, who are you talking to?
(01:52:27):
I was like, I want about I look at the
airport police. Then he changed his tone and I literally
told him. I said, man, you lucky I got grace today.
I said, I could have pulled my phone out when
live and would have let your ass up. See again,
I ain't given no grace to any of these bigots.
And so my whole deal is right, let the snow
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pile up. What do you know what I would do.
I would literally see didn't get some tape and mark
it off, and to have a big old just a
block of ice on her damn sidewalk. And I'm serious,
she was walking and she failed. I be like she
fell down. She can't get up. All right, y'all, I
gotta go over cargo, Lord Julian, I stally appreciate it.
Thanks a bunch. We gotta get out of here after.
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They gotta take his ass home and go learn some
black history. Because the boys confused, I don't understand what's
going on. I've already decided I'm gonna start doing a
hundred question there, one hundred questions on black stuff. Anybody
who go has to get come through this show to
lease make an eighty out of one hundred. Because my god,
(01:53:31):
the boy didn't know who Jeffrey Osborne was. He'll not
to lie, crew, Julian. He we said, I say, Lord, Lord, Lord,
he know what the hell movie that was. He had
no idea about Glory. Let me just have twenty five
hours with him. I'm getting street. No, no, i gotta go.
(01:53:51):
I'm gonna see all the mark. Oh, hold up, my nieces,
my twin nieces to their birthday, have a birthday. I'm
out o. Black Star Network is a real old revolutionary
right now, Sam black Media, he makes sure that our
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