Tenn. State Unvi. Takeover, NV Cop Slams Kid To Ground, Barbara Lee for Senate,Ga's Micro-Community

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Folks. Today's Tuesday, February twenty first, twenty twenty three, coming
up my Rolling Mark Unfiltered streaming live on the Black
Star Network. I told y'all Republicans in Tennessee, we're gonna
be going after Tennessee State University. Will talk to a
state official. State representative wrote a letter quashing these concerns
regarding a state take over Tennessee State. But what's going

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what's on it? Whatever it is, he's got the school's
right on time, it is spelling. Best believe he's going
putting it down funk. He's lost to us to politics
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me in body and past roland Martin here in Los Angeles. Um,

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I told you months ago about Tennessee sat University was happening.
We came to funding there one of the issues that
the State's determined they were old someone that filed a
million dollars, but Tennessee this thing. Tennessee is only given
them two hun fifteen million dollars, but also they are
some restrictions as to how they can actually spend the money. Now,
a number of people on social media talking about how

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Tennessee wants to take over Tennessee State University, want to
remove the independent governance of the university and put them
under the Tennessee Board of Regions. Well, is that true
or not? Joining us right now is a state rep
in Tennessee who has written a letter dealing with this
very issue. Harold Love Juniorversity and Love how you doing

(05:30):
doing well? Thank you for having me on the show. Okay,
so let's walk through walk through this. Here is the
state of Tennessee trying to remove the independent governance of
Tennessee State and move them under the Tennessee Board of Regions. No,
the Board of Regions was the former governing system for

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Tennessee State University and other universities in Tennessee. And at
one point we passed what's called the Focus Act, which
allowed every university to then have its own board of trustees.
That board of trustees is appointed by the governor and
confirmed by the legislature. So everything this has been again

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I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. So every
university hasn't come before our Government Operations Committee and the
board of trustees are asked a series of questions pertaining
to the operations of the university. So Tennessee State was
supposed to come up last summer because their board is
supposed to automatically sunset in twenty twenty three if something's

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not done asked. Every university has always given a chance
to again have their board to come before the Government
Operations Committee and lists out of what they've done to
help that to the university operate. All right, I gotta
go to a break. We come back. I want to
talk about the money that was allocated. I saw an

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interview where Eddie George, the head football coach of Tennessee
State UH complained that tense Tissue officials were not able
to use the money as they saw fit there were
limitations placed on them. They've also been complaints that from
white legislate towards their Tennessee about how they're recruiting black students,
and we played the video when this guy was like, well,
like this, this is hurting other institutions, and the President

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Tennessee State was like, well, we do a great job.
So we'll talk about all of that and break all
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We're about to see the lives of what I call
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has been the Carol Anderson at every university calls white
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We're back here in Los Angeles. We're talking about State
Representative Harold Loved Junior from Tennessee Representative Love. You wrote
in this letter you use at the two hundred and
fifty million dollars from building repairs and construction that was
put in the budget January twenty twenty two was made
available to Tissue on July first, tween twenty two, when
the new fiscal years started. An additional ninety two million
was approved before July one, twenty twenty two for two

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new buildings, sixty million dollars for engineering, and three two
million dollars for agriculture. And so we've heard different folks say, oh,
Tissue is getting the money, but they can't use it
the way they see fit. Explain that who. So in
Tennessee state case, a lot of people thought that the
money should have been able to be used for building dormitories.

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And in Tennessee the legislature does not allocate money for
what we call revenue generating buildings that would be dormitories,
that would be also stadiums. And so Tennessee states money
that was allocated was to improve the infrastructure on campus,
to repair the education and administration buildings. Limitation is placed

(11:26):
on that really cannot hear a Representative Love so I
need you guys to see what's going on here. I
heard us coming back from break and so representive love.
I'll ask you this question here again we're talking about

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again this whole issue with Again, this was all over
social media, folks. We've been sending to us left and right.
So we're trying to get a better understanding of what's
really happening with the university, and again just talk about
a takeover. Now. In the letter, you talked about the
Senate ad Hoc Committee having questions about the current leadership's

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ability to effectively lead the university. The Controller's office interviewed students, faculty,
and staff to gain a better understanding of complaints they
received from parents and students. The committee will review the
report at a hearing on February twenty third. So before
we get to the complaints, So a parent, there are
people who were suggesting that that was going to be

(12:32):
a vote on February twenty third to take Tennessee State
and put them under the Tennessee Board of Regions. You
say that is not correct, right, correct? The Senate ad
Hoc Committee that's meeting on the twenty third does not
have the ability to make that particular vote that's invested
in the power of the Government Operations Committee, which is

(12:53):
meeting the twenty seventh of February. Representative Love, I'll ask
you this here as well. So let's talk about these complaints,
all right, and the questioning of the leadership. Look, they're
always complaints. One of the issues that Tennessee State is

(13:15):
dealt with is that the rapid increase in enrollment had
a housing issue. So we're talking about these complaints. What
are you hearing? Are people suggesting that Dr Glenn mcglover
should not be president and so? So talk about this, Uh,
these complaints and this what this committee is going to
then provide in this report all the control is going
to provide. Right. So, the Comptroller's Office has a department

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called the HERO Office Higher Education Resource Officer, and that
particular office is designed to have persons who have issues
or concerns about our universities to be able to call
them and to be able to list out those things
that they have concerned about. That will allow the Comptroller's
officers to go and investigate if the cut complaints are warranted.

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So in this instance, when we had students calling and
emailing about the lack of housing and also about some
scholarships not being fulfilled. The Comptour's office then went and
interviewed students and faculty and administration and they are putting
their report together which will come out, I believe tomorrow,

(14:23):
and this will detail the responses to those questions that
had The Senate ad hoc Committee also wanted the Comptourer's
office to give them information about what they discovered in
those same interviews. All right, last question for you, Representative
Love again when it comes to what is next, the

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state reports said the Tennessee state was old five hundred
million dollars. They did two y fifty million when a
Tennessee state going to get the other two hundred fifty million.
So the initial two and fifty million dollars that eventually
became three hundred and fifty million dollars was designed to
repair the infrastructure of the university that includes again all
the education buildings and possibly build again new library, new

(15:12):
engineering building, new agriculture building. The design is to have
those buildings repaired so that when you increase programs with
additional funds, you then have a proper place to house
those programs. What you don't want to do is start
increasing access to your chemistry program and you don't have
the adequate labs to have the chemistry students do their

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work in them. You don't want to expand other programs
and not have the facilities for that. Then the command
doctor g level on this. She is trying to take
Tennessee State from a research to to research one institution
and the extra dollars, the additional money could primarily be
used to do that, to hire more professors again, to
expand the programs at the university, but first you must

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have the facilities to be repaired. Tennessee State is in
need of approximate three hundred and forty four million dollars
worth of infrastructure repairs, and it's two hundred fifty million
dollars goes along with there's no plan for Tennessee State
to be taken over to the under the Tennessee Border Regions. Correct,

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that's correct that there are options listed. I believe in
the report that will include improving communication between the Board
and the President. But the Border Regions is not designed
to run a four institution they did in previous years.
They are designed to help institutions in Tennessee State, as
they currently do with our capital maintenance. But there's there's

(16:40):
an opportunity there for the Border regions to provide assistance
to Tennessee State should they need assistance. And if the
board is vacated and replaced with new members, is also
an opportunity for the border regions provide that. Representative of love,

(17:06):
I appreciate you joining us on the show to give
us the breakdown of what's happened at Tennessee State. Thank
you so very much. Keep us abreast of what happens
next with the university, folks. One of the reasons why
this is important is because of what we've seen with
Priview and M University. We all sort have seen what's
happening within Florida Governor Rhonda Santist and the whole issue

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of critical race theory, his kids complaining about WOKE and
the impact on HBCUs, and so whether we're talking about
Tennessee State or Florida A and M or Preview and M,
there should be great concern among African Americans about our
state HBCUs, our public HBCUs having to be in these
red states you've got and look, North Carolina got democratic governor,

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but you've got a Republican legislature in Tennessee, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Texas, Florida.
And so when we talk about our largest HBCUs, they
are in these red states, and so it is incumbent
upon us. And we talk about voting all the time, folks,

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when you have these right wing Republicans who are over
these universities, the problems that we're going to have is
they are going to be controlling the policy the policy
of these institutions, and that is of grave concern to
all of us. And so if we as African Americans
are not fully involved. This is what Ruth Simmons was

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talking about when she talked about what preview. Folks need
to be focused on when it comes to the institutions,
when it comes to standing up fighting for them, that's
where we need to be and our institutions and understand
what we're up against. We are dealing with people who
do not have the same mission that we do. They

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control the purse strings, they control the dollars, they control
all of those different things, and so all of us
need to understand what we are up against and what
we are facing. What I want to do right now
is folks, let me know how much time. If we're
going to the next break, I want to pull up
my palel today and introduce them because again, folks, this

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is we're gonna see more of these things happen as
we move forward in the future of Mustafa Santiago Ali,
former Senior Advisor for Environmental Justice at the EPA, Dr
Cannas Matthews, statewide Vice Chair Texas Coalition of Black Democrats,
and at six thirty tomorrow Solomon Simmons it's gonna be
joining our civil rights attorney and foundal Justice for Greenwood.

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Mustafa I laid out there again, when Republicans are in
control of the state, when they have the power, they
can make decisions or impacting HBCUs. And so if HBCU
graduates and the students are not fully focused, they either
understand you're going to be at the behest of these

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Republicans that could be devastating to these HBCUs most definitely.
And you know what was interesting that Representative Love had
shared about revenue generating buildings. I've never heard before someone
not wanting to support dorms because we understand that if
students don't have a place to live and to study.

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Then it's going to be difficult for them to choose,
you know, an institution like that. So for that to
be a part of how Tennessee is deciding about resources,
it's very It's very concerning because it stops the growth,
if you will, of many of our institutions. That many
students are now paying more attention to her and saying,

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I want to go to an HBCU. But it goes
back again to the power, the power of the decision maker,
those individuals who are there in the State House and
others who are choosing about which institutions are going to grow,
which institutions are going to receive the resources, and which
ones won't. This um when we talk about again who controls?

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I talk all times about leverage, influence, power. Those who
control the purse strings, they have the power. We've got
to those use our leverage and influence to put pressure
on them. Let them know you screw o Abcus, you're
screwing with black people. Oh I'm sorry, Um, you know

(21:54):
what Roland I am. Can you hear me, Sarah, Okay,
I am in complete A grants to that statement, because
you gotta keep in mind we are here in Texas
the battleground state, the state where you have a lot
of racism, a lot of systemic racism. And then let's

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just look at it. Because I am HBCU, Texas Southern University,
and I'm very familiar with Prayer of You, am because
that's right down the street from my house. And so
basically Prayer of You is pretty much like the sister
school for the Texas A and M University. Right. So

(22:38):
with doctor Simmons, they were more or less like, okay,
you know what, you can just hold this position just
as a position, but you don't have any control. See,
we have to let them know that you're not going
to do that to none about HBCUs, because if not,
then this is what happens when you have the master,

(22:58):
puppet master that's going to control everything. And then nine
times out of ten, we'll try to make HBCUs obsolete
quickly before I go to break. We look, you've got

(23:19):
of course election is coming up. You've got the presidential election.
But I keep telling folks, like in Virginia, every or
seat is up. We have got to be focused and
locked on state races. There are opportunities to control the
different houses. And one of the reasons why. You see
what Jerry manning, of course, but you also see what

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is happening these other places is that we are not
in full control of our voting power. As long as
we're voting thirty thirty five percent, when I'm maximizing our power,
if we're voting at seventy seventy five percent, we could
be changing what's happening a lot of these states. They
are banking on us not showing up. Yeah, without a doubt,

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we know that there's power that's associated with our vote.
Resources are tied to our vote, and in the conversation
we're having here now about the supporting of our academic institutions.
So you've got to get engaged. You've got to hold
people accountable. When people are on the campaign trail, you
should be raising the questions to them about where do
you stand on support for HBCUs and actually hear what

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they have to say, and then hold them accountable, both
Democrats and Republicans and independence if that's what's going on
in your respective states, Because if we don't utilize our
vote in this moment, then we will lose our institutions
and Roland. This is how I know it's true because
in West Virginia one time you had five HBCUs and

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now what you have is West Virginia State, which is
still labeled as an HBCU, but the dynamics have changed.
They're not saying that it's not still a good educational institution,
but it is so easy to end up losing pounds.
Right now, we ain't going back more on rolland Mark
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Rolling Mark Unfiltered on the Black Start Network. Um, let's
talk California Senate raise. We're here in Los Angeles. Uh.
Barbara Lee of the Bay Area has announced that she
is going to run for the US Senate being vacated
by Senator Diane Feinstein. Now one is rolling out the

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welcome matt especially for someone like me. Why was the
girl they didn't allow in, who couldn't drink from the
water fountain, who had an abortion in a back alley
when they all were illegal. I escaped a violent marriage,
became a single mom, a homeless mom, a mom who

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couldn't afford childcare and brought her kids to class with her.
They didn't want to hear my voice or anyone who
wasn't like them. But by the grace of God, I
didn't let that stop me. To do nothing has never

(29:51):
been an option for me. When my high school said
cheerleaders couldn't be black, I took them on. I worked
with the NAACP and earned my spot as guess what,
the school's first black cheerleader. When there we're protections for
survivors of domestic violence, I wrote California's first Violence Against

(30:14):
Women Act when it was legal to discriminate against the
LGBTQ plus community. I wrote the Hate Crimes Reduction Act
and got a Republican governor to sign it into law.
When no one wanted to talk about Global AIDS funding,
I got President George W. Bush to make it a priority.
And for those who say my time has passed, well,

(30:37):
when does making change go out of style? I don't quit.
I don't give up. Come on, that's not in my DNA.
I didn't quit when I refused to give the president
completely unlimited warpowers after September eleventh, and in the face
of countless death threats, I was the only no vote.

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I didn't quit then, and I won't quit now. We
have to ease the burden on the middle class. We
have to find a solution to poverty and homelessness. We
have to take on the climate crisis, and we have
to stop these MAGA extremists who think they can control
people's bodies and dismantle our democracy. And even though there

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are no African American women in the United States Senate,
we won't let that stop us either, because when you
stand on the side of justice, you don't quit. If
they don't give you a seat at the table, you
bring a folding chair for everyone, and they're here to stay. Already,

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folks now understand. Representing Katie Porter has already announced that
she is running. Also, Representative Adams Chiefs announced that he
is running Representive Barbara Lee. She's served in the House.
It's nineteen ninety eight. Let's talk about this again with
our panel. Candice, you first look, it's gonna be very

(32:16):
expensive race. We're talking about California statewide. Representative Lee has
to raise a lot of money. Your thoughts again on
what is shaping up to be a contentious race. Uh,
These US cndencies don't come open a lot and a
lot of people have thought that she should have been
appointed as the Vice President. Kamala Harris went into the

(32:37):
White House. But your take on this possitive. This race
now represent the Barbarly officially in it. You know what,
I think that this is excellent because I'm a true
fan of miss barbar Lelye comes from Barberly. And then
what I like about her is that she's a change agent.
This is someone who actually been in the trenches. This

(32:58):
is someone who can actually attend a by with people
that look like us. So if she was to go
in in the Senate, this would be amazing, it would
be amazing. And then what I love about this woman,
what I love about her is that she gives me
that hope. She gives me that drive as a black

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woman that I can do this. And you know what,
I think that she's gonna do it. That's how I feel.
Mustafa again, there are no black women in the United
States Senate. Uh And then that has been a point
of potential for a lot of sisters since the Vice
president was elected. Well, that says something about our country

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when you know black women are not in the Senate,
not helping to frame out a new and positive direction.
We know that when they are in the Senate is
a better place, it is a more effective place. Barbara Lee,
you know, she's I really love Barbara Lee because she's
always fought for vulnerable communities. She doesn't play around. She
makes sure that she gets the job done. How Housing,

(34:09):
healthcare are a couple of the issues that I know
that she's cared about. She was there when we were
working on environmental justice, when I worked on Capitol Hill,
she always showed up. So she would be an excellent
an excellent new member on the Senate. So I'm looking
forward to it. But like you said, it's going to
take a lot of money, and that means that folks
are gonna have to get out and support her if
you believe in the work that she's always done and

(34:30):
can do ken. It's one of the things that we've
heard from African Americans who run statewide is they don't
get enough financial support from the Democratic Party apparatus, from
these various packs. Again, that is going to be an
issue because again it's going to be an expensive primary,

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and that's what it boils down to, and the run
statewide in California, you gotta have a lot of money
to run on a lot of expensive TV markets. Well,
you know what, that's exactly how it is in Texas
as well. So basically, you have to get behind the
person who you want your democracy to represent. So in

(35:13):
so many words, she's got to have to have award chins,
and she's gonna have to have donors, she's gonna have
to have those packs. So if California wants her to
represent them in the Senate, they gotta get together and
they got to make this money because that's what's gonna
win elections. And this is a very expensive race because

(35:33):
we see it all the time in Texas at right,
there mustapa again money, money, money, and so Democrats to
be duking it out. But it's interesting, though, how do
you see this race in terms of Okay, who you're
appealing to and so who can out progressive progressives? Well,

(35:59):
nobody's gonna progress. Barbara League. She's always been out there
on the front lines on some of the most important issues.
I remember when she stood up, you know, against us
going to war. So when the other folks kind of
got some pressure and shrunk to the background, if you will.
But let's you know, when we're talking about money, you know,

(36:19):
Barbara League gonna make sure that both the barbershops and
the beauty salions, and those folks are actually activated and
are out supporting her. But we also got a whole
lot of folks there in that then that big industry
that we call Hollywood, who are also going to have
to make some decisions. So if you say that you
want to support the changes that are necessary in our country,
then those actors and actresses and producers and editors, you know,

(36:44):
then you're gonna have to make sure that you're also
putting your dollars where your words are. So that's another
pot of money that folks will be uying for, and
you know, she should be one of the top candidates
that folks are wanting to support in a financial way. Cannice.
I also expect a lot of black women nationally to

(37:08):
really be invested in this race because not having an
African American woman in the United States Senate is a problem.
Folks were hoping that Sheared Beasley was gonna be elected
North Carolina. She wasn't, and so a lot of hopes
are gonna be placed on Barbara Lee securing the nomination
for the Democratic nomination to go to the junial election. Right,

(37:28):
And you're absolutely right, about that, because you gotta keep
in mind this here is a very serious, serious position
that we need another African American woman in that Senate.
So they have to strategize, they have to be able
to gatheralize, and then at the end of the day,
the it balls down to you have to have to
watch it. You have to have it because if not,

(37:50):
then it's gonna be an issue. And then by her
being in California, just like brother said, you have all
of these actors, celebrities and things like that, so you
need to get behind her. You need to put your
money as to what you want your democracy to look like.
And that's my take on it, absolutely, and so I

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think folks, what we are seeing is going to be
a very very very difficult raise. Of course, the Senator
Barbara Leaves, she had tweeted today, I'm proud to announced
my kendide for you has Senate. I've never backed down
from doing what's right and I never will. California's deserve
a strong progressive leader who has delivered a real change.

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always important when you talk about states, it's always about
who has the money and who can access the money,
and so that's what's happening. There are folks a lot
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Martin Unfiltered broadcasting live here in Los Angeles. According to
the news new data from Into It, black entrepreneur entrepreneurs
are facing more difficulties starting a viable business. The Financial
Management surveyed one thousand black business owners to share their
small business struggles and successes. The survey revealed on average
costs approximately twenty one thousand dollars to start a business

(43:34):
compared to sixteen thousand bucks. M fifty seven percent said
M Fifty seven percent said that they were denied bank
loans at least once. Thirty four percent, well, first of all,
I don't understand. I'm assuming when it when it comes
to starting the business that's black to white. The graphics

(43:55):
should say that I don't know what caused the propibly
twenty one grand to start their business compared to sixteen
thousand of what so guys get the graphic right. Thirty
four percent report being to not a bank loan more
than once twice the amount. Thirty six percent did not
understand the various loan and grant options available. Seven nine
percent had to pay expenses or employees with personal funds
at least once in the last two years. That the
doctor Jacqueline King is the founder of Black Women Empowered

(44:17):
from Fort Wind, Indiana. Doctor King, lad to have you here. Look, look, look,
here's a deal. First of all, the Intuit study is
not new. It's not like it's giving us any new
data here. But the reality is, I dare say, when
we talk about our businesses, we talk about growing our businesses,
it's not always a good question of access to capital.

(44:39):
It's also access to contracts. Being able to grow that way.
That also is critically important. Absolutely, you're correct, and you know. Um,
First of all, I want to say congratulations, Department League,
that's amazing news. But yeah, so even down to the

(45:02):
arper funds, which I'm sure you're familiar with that, I
mean when you go there and it's supposed to be
for unprivileged communities or low income communities, but the cities,
the local cities are doing what they want to with
the money a lot. I'm hearing it. I have a

(45:23):
Linda Gray who works with me and my nonprofit. She's
hearing it over and over in the funds are just
not coming to the people who are supposed to be for.
So it's not just the bank loans. This is the
way the local communities are governing it as well. So

(45:44):
if we're talking about and I think you see efforts
in Congress trying to make some changes to that, and
and look what has to happen is the pressure has
me put on these banks because again, when we're locked
out of contracts and a lockout of resources, you can't grow,
you can't build, you have no capacity. That is absolutely um.

(46:06):
So we can we can unify. That's the biggest thing.
And I love when I heard someone say, just a
few minutes ago. I think it was you collaboration. If
we don't come together and and make decisions as a group,
we're not going to patronize your bank because you don't

(46:27):
give money to the black communities, We're never gonna we're
never gonna overcome this obstacle. M March First, I'm gonna
be doing to our show dealing with the lack of contracts,
how we're getting frogen out by these companies and these
ad agencies, and break it down in a very specific way.

(46:48):
And that's what it boils down to. I was talking
to somebody and I said, look, I said, our business.
I said, we've been said, we're profitable, we're in the black.
I'm not trying to run out and raise invest your
money or I don't want to bank loan because we
can pay our bills, what we need our contracts. And
so what's happening is we're in a perfect position, but

(47:09):
we get screwed by these folks. And that's also what's happening.
When we're frozen out of the deal flow, then we
don't we're not able to truly grow. So even when
you create a successful black owned business, if you're not
getting the contracts, you can't go anywhere. Do you know?
I found out when I was a commissioner in North

(47:31):
Carolina that the way these contracts happen in many cases
is that it's if I can just be real where
I'm filtered. A white man will get his wife who
is now a minority, a woman and a when already
owned business. He will put the business in her name
so she can get the contract and compete with the

(47:53):
black woman a black man. But that's how they do it.
They go back door. And so, yeah, we got to
come up with other solutions to get the money and
the contracts. Questions, we'll stop for you first. Yeah, Well,
my question is how do you think the best way

(48:15):
for us to educate our communities on these sets of
hurdles and then also bringing forward how folks have been
able to navigate them and to be able to move
in a positive direction. And that's what Black Women in
Power does. So we've been together for eleven years and
that's what we do. We educate on finances, how to

(48:37):
get contracts, how to get the money through through grants
and loans, and but really it takes us working together.
I can't emphasize enough collaboration, and that's where we struggle.
We struggle coming together and saying, Okay, if we if
we can get this contract together, we have a better chance.

(48:58):
Five ten of us applied for the contract together, not
one individual. So it's it's really education and believing that
we can come together and working on coming together to
get the contracts. Candice, Okay, So I'm a business owner

(49:19):
here in Houston, Texas, and I also have a business
above and I own a foster adoption agency. And so
what we get contracts that's directly from the state and
also the federal government. And so what I have uncovered
when it comes to dealing with the disparities is that
systemic racism raises ugly head in this process. And so

(49:40):
what they do. I didn't caught them to where they
have forged compliance history to where they trying to make
minority provide us, to make us obsolete by finding us
all of these finds to where now your business is
going to go in the rate. So it's it's a
lot of factors with the and I am very steadfast

(50:02):
on it. So what is your take on how can
we deal with this in this type of capacity, Because
in my opinion. I believe in legislation, agitation, and litigation.
You come over here and mess with my business, I'm
gonna sue your back. What does you'll take? And that
that's why we need women and men in the government

(50:27):
that looked like us. It was very disappointing that Cheryl
Beasley didn't get in the Senate. But we don't even
come together to support our own and let alone worrying
about you know what the Democratic pack is doing. We
can't even come together to say, yeah, we're all gonna
pull and support this person. You don't have to live

(50:50):
in the same state to support them. Monetarily, we can
do that. Like Roland said, it's gonna take a lot
of money, doesn't matter where the money has come from.
But if we want to get them elected, everybody's gonna
have to chip in. Well, absolutely, and I think we

(51:10):
also have got we have a segment called Where's our Money?
We also got to put pressure on policymakers to understand
how do they also free the contracts up because on
the federal level, we're only getting one point six seven
percent of all federal contracts. Yeo, I mean, I'm sorry,
that's unacceptable. And Thill is, if you're not getting federal contracts,
you're not getting corporate contracts, so then we'll always frozen

(51:31):
and stuck making small money. I agree, but as you know,
in this era, they don't really care. I mean, what
kind of pressure are you talking about. They don't care
what we do. This is, this has been improved after
Donald Trump. They basically said, do whatever you want to do,

(51:52):
We're gonna do it with what we want to do. So,
I mean, I don't have to answer on how to
put pressure on the government. I don't. I'll do, but
please tell well, well, well here, here, here, here's his

(52:13):
first and foremost, Black caucuses on the state level have
got to be far more aggressive when it comes to
forcing these folks to change the rules when it comes
to contracts. If you, first of all, you're not breaking
down an analysis of who's not getting what, then you
don't know what to do. Then you can't then you
can't actually impact it. So I've been doing that and

(52:33):
challenging the Biden administration, challenge congression of Black caucus, uh saying, look,
it's ridiculous. On the advertising side, black owned media is
getting one percent of federal advertising contracts, and so you
could create changes by being able to put pressure on
the system and telling policymakers, you want our votes, but
we're getting contracts. You better make sure we get some

(52:55):
more damn the damn contracts, or someone else's gonna get
our vote. That's how we have to do it. But
you cannot do that if you are not organized and mobilized.
And that's why and real you probably don't remember I
reached out to you on Clubhouse and said, I need
you to come on my network because that's what we need.

(53:15):
We need your voice out here telling the people what
they need to do to get these contracts. I mean,
who else is doing it besides you? That's why we
do it. Well, here's your deal. I can't control other
people do That's why I built this show, built this network,
and why we do it. And so that you know
that that that's that's how I told how I talk

(53:37):
about it. Uh and keep pushing it. But again, uh,
it's real easy to say, oh, Ben Gil, let's start
a business, but that's part of the problem. We have
a bunch of small businesses with one employee. We need
build bigger capacity. That's what we need. Doctor the kid.
We appreciate the fact slot. Thank you for having me.

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your Supreme Court. And folks, they are looking at a
case dealing with Google relates to content. They heard arguments
today about allowing websites to be sued for the automatic
recommendations of user content. For nearly three hours, Supreme Court

(58:42):
just to Patterns presented their case to hold Google accountable
for suggesting YouTube videos created by terrorist groups. The case
stems from the death of Norhemi Gonzalez, an American college
student killed in a terrorist attack in Paris. The family
wants to sue Google, who YouTube algorithms they blame for
helping extremely spread through message and tract new recruits. Social

(59:06):
analysts and diversity strategist Sharie Mitchell is here to break
this thing down. So Shari, okay, for the average black
person out there, why does this why does this matter?
It matters because we're having this conversation about algorithms once again, right,
like what are the algorithms doing? How does it impact

(59:27):
our lives and the spaces in between? What is happening
with these cases? And by the way, there are two cases.
Google was today, Twitter is tomorrow. In reference to the
way in which the algorithms present content to you, I
think most people think that when they were given that
suggestion to go on to other content, particularly on YouTube,

(59:49):
that that suggestion is about the fact that, like Google
is suggesting it to you, Google is algorithms is presenting
this additional content and allowing people to do horrific things
based on what the content is that that that's being
presented in the case today. Uh, what's also being argued

(01:00:11):
is actually section two thirty. Section two thirty is very complicated,
but what section two thirty originally is about is that
it gives immunity to the technology platforms if it's a
third party content being produced. So me as a user
sharing content gives the platform immunity from what I share

(01:00:31):
and that if anyone needs to be responsible, it's me
sharing it. What this case is arguing is that immunity
should be changed based on the fact that that if
the algorithms are suggesting content, that they are liable for
the suggestion okay and so and so with that UM

(01:01:00):
again suing them, they're obviously in control of the algorithm.
But it's also based upon a lot of times what
users are talking about and so could be applied to anything,
if it could be applied to sex or whatever exactly.
And that's why it's important because the ways in which

(01:01:22):
if anyone who goes on to Google and looks at
one in one video, right, if I go to the
Daily Show, oh wait, the Roland Martin Show, and then
I guess suggestions for other shows that Roland Martin has had,
that is part of the algorithm, because that is part
of the suggestions. Yet at the end of the day,
I am probably interested in more shows that Roland Martin

(01:01:46):
may be doing. However, what they're saying is that if
you're then being suggested UM like to go to a
website or a video or an ad that is about
anything that would disparage you the show or allow anyone

(01:02:06):
else to think about doxing or terrorizing you or your team.
Then the company is then liable. And that's the part
that I think that they're trying to argue. So the
one today was in Paris, the one tomorrow was an instable.
And the challenge that they're arguing is I am a

(01:02:29):
third party person if I share content and those companies
are completely absolved from anything that includes whether or not
they are using their news feeds or their algorithms or
anything like that in a different way. That keeps these
suggestions coming up that can be harmful or can lead
people to do harm against themselves by the way, as

(01:02:51):
well as commit harms against other people. And when we
look at this, it's the question is like what happened
with Facebook's Facebook responsible for the massacre that happened and
rheinga if they were the ones that did not take
down that content and people actually used it and something
bad happen, or are we asking the question that that

(01:03:15):
content that that that I'm sharing should be moderated enough
that there is no harm that gets inflicted. And I
think it's the moderation part. It's the section to thirty
part that I think we're dancing this really fine line
about because if if if Section two thirty is removed

(01:03:37):
and these companies are accused of participating in these harms,
then we're actually talking about different liability suits. We're talking
about different lawsuits. The Twitter conversation tomorrow is that they
are actually trying to take the Section to thirty conversation
a little bit further down the distance and says, but

(01:03:57):
were weighting or promoting or participating in this harm? And
the company is saying, we if we're not doing it,
and it's and it's you, it's you, it's the content provider.
That's where it should sit, and that's where it should
be the responsibility. But if we if we take the blame,

(01:04:18):
if the tech companies now take the blame, they're they're
soon there. They're worried about any any possible lawsuits and
other aspects. So today I would say both sides of
the of the of the justices kind of agree on
how this line is being pushed a little bit too far. Um.

(01:04:43):
Look it is Uh. Look, we're living in a world
now where we are going to we're increasing the control
by the algorithm. Uh. And look I know for a
fact that on Facebook, black content is getting blocked. Uh,
it's ridiculous how our members are being suppressed. I've emailed
them numerous times. They're not responding because what Facebook wants

(01:05:05):
to do is to force you to spend money boosting
your to your own followers as opposed to you having
access to them. And so we see what the game is.
And so whenever they change the algorithm, it can have
a direct impact on money that is generated by content
providers as well. I mean, they are in control of it.
And when you have companies like Facebook and Google that

(01:05:27):
control so much of the advertising business as one of
the reasons why the Body administration is considering suing them
over their monopoly practices. And that's and that's exactly right.
Like the challenge that we're having is that on one end,
they are using and manipulating their algorithms, because we've had

(01:05:48):
that testimony from from Hogan who showed that like they
knew that the algorithm was doing something different when it
came to protecting white users versus protecting black users the platform.
And this argument is sort of about that. It's like,
if you're going to institute an algorithm and it has
a biased outcome, what at that point is the responsibility

(01:06:10):
if and today, actually in those three hours that came up,
if someone is intentionally creating an algorithm to change what
your feed is and to protect certain users versus not
protecting others, then that in itself is something that we
should be talking about. That manipulation is intentional and honestly,

(01:06:32):
we just had that right on Sunday, right you know,
I don't call him by his real name, so forgive
me y'all a part tightka. I got upset that Biden
had more traction during Super Bowl and Super Bowl halftime,
so he pulled in his staff and someone created created

(01:06:53):
an algorithm so that his content was now dominant. That action,
that action is what these lawsuits should be about. Is
that if that is actually being done, then yes, then
the platforms are liable for whatever happens. And the question
now is are we seeing that is that actually happening,

(01:07:15):
or are we dealing with the fact that like they're
not doing enough of their own curation and their own
monitoring of their terms of service to prevent from harmful
things happening, or are they creating algorithms that are biased
and causing one causing harm but two giving people more
access or more platform than others, and enforcing people like

(01:07:39):
everyday people to have to pay to have the same
kind of boosting. Are they also removing groups because for example,
my organization, we can't boost at all, like like we
if anything that we put out on Facebook has to
go out through our general audience because we can't even
pay for boosting. And when you make decisions like that,

(01:08:01):
that just says that there's some of the issues that
we need to be paying attention to because that decision
is being made by the organization, by the platform, not
because of the content, but because they're making a decision
about whether or not they even want that content out.
All right, Sharena Hull, appreciate it. Thanks so much for
joining us. Thank you for having me. All Right, folks,

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thing here is again we see what's going on and
they believe, oh, we can ride this into to the

(01:14:00):
White House based upon what happened in the twenty twentyo
interm elections. Yeah, this is Ron de Santis's white House tour.
That's what he should call a pre white house tour.
You know, it's really interesting. Ron de Santis didn't say
anything about the folks who were breaking the law in
January the sixth. He didn't say anything when President Trump
was breaking the law with consistency around the clock. And

(01:14:22):
there are a number of other examples of where his
voice has been silent. But whenever he can highlight what
you know he thinks is black or brown folks, then
he jumps all over that. So we know who he is.
He's showing us who he is, and folks in Florida
and across the country should pay attention. As Mario said,
he is someone who may end up being the Republican

(01:14:45):
candidate for president. So pay attention, get engaged, and speak
out and push back against this foolishness that he continues
to try and propagate and Cannis. Look, Democrats are going
to have to learn how to respond and not run
out of fear. But you know, Roland, let me tell

(01:15:06):
you what this jack leg white supremacist over he is doing.
He is doing nothing but going straight out of the
Ronald Reagan playbook. That's exactly what he's doing. Because just
like how you brought about the white fear right, that's
exactly what Ronald Reagan did, and that's exactly what Donald
Trump did by bestowing fear in these white supremacists. You

(01:15:27):
understand what I'm saying. And so when you do that,
then this is what you get. This guy is one
of the ones that's waging war on coach, on our
cultural education. This is somebody that's raging war on our wokeness.
This is somebody that is very dangerous that don't need
to be in the White House. He needed to be

(01:15:47):
in the dollar gone psychiatric gospel. Oh, let's talk about Georgia,
where a palel is recommended. There are a number of
people being and died it in the election fraud case.
They have been looking at Donald Trump and so many others.
Report was released detailing what should be done, and again

(01:16:11):
this special grand Jury of Mustafa has recommended a number
of folks would be prosecuted. The forewoman Emily Coors told
The New York Times that it is not a short
list of people who should be charged with crimes. Your thoughts, well,

(01:16:31):
we've known, you know, they just have to facts together
to sort of highlight these individuals who have been doing
all kinds of the various things around democracy. And now
you know, folks are pulling it forward. People are going
to be held accountable and we'll see how it all
plays out. But they love to try and you know,

(01:16:52):
put a spotlight on on somebody who voted who may
not have known if they were allowed to. These are
individuals who have made just efforts in this space to
really just to hurt or destroy democracy. But they're not
as concerned about democracy as they are their power. Um
And what they're really trying to do is hold on

(01:17:13):
the power hold on the resources, and they understand that
that is tied to the vote. So they get exactly
what's coming to them for the things that they've done
in the past. The thing here can this when we
look at this here, I mean, look, it's gonna come
down the DA Fanny Willis, she's gonna make a decision

(01:17:33):
and at some point one of these DA's it's gonna
have to have some guts and go after Donald Trump.
Mary Garland hasn't done it so far, the DA in
Manhattan hasn't done it. The man continues to get away
Scott Free, never held accountable. But you know what, and
that's done by design. See, this is what is important

(01:17:55):
when they when we say the statement, election has consequences,
because when you turn around and you put people in office,
you need people that's gonna be in office, that's not
gonna be afraid to make the tough decisions, that's gonna
put people over politics. You gotta stand what I'm saying,
and that's not what we're getting here. And so in
my position is this, if you temper with my democracy,

(01:18:17):
you do the crime, you do the time, and if
you have all the facts, you have everything to show exactly.
This is what this person doing. What DA, what's your problem?
Put them charges and let's get on with this. What
you think, Roland de Mario, somebody has to have some

(01:18:38):
courage to lead otherwise, Listen, the man knows no bottom,
so he's gonna keep doing whatever hell he wants if
I can keep getting away with it. That's like saying, hey,
we're never gonna hold you account of a ribbing a
bank a bank round gonna keep robbing. Yeah, I wish
my sister Kendice was that in one of these d officers.

(01:18:58):
I like her, I like you can't listen. It's very
dangerous because the more that this goes on, month after month,
that people are not held accountable, it makes them more powerful,
more embolden, and it makes us all less safe. We
all know that there are black people doing ten twenty
thirty life sentences for one tenth of one percent of

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what people like Donald Trump and even other individuals like
Lindsey Graham and other elected officials like Margie Taylor Green
who actually participated not just in trying to steal votes,
but to January sixth insurrection. And so each time this
has punted down the line, it actually makes those individuals
more powerful, more embolden, and more dangerous. So I'm hoping

(01:19:45):
that the DA down there in Atlanta black women, and
many times black women have come and done way more
for this country than they ever should have based upon
how black woen have been treated. So hopefully this black
woman was falling on and that in this line of
black women who have saved and done the right thing
when others would not do it, and again must often

(01:20:10):
here when we're talking about multiple this grand jury is
saying that multiple indictness being recommended. That means a lot
of people were involved in this fraud. Listen to that food,
Donald Trump, Oh, without a doubt. You know, it's almost
like a crime family when you actually look at all
the different types of individuals who are part of this.

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And it's not just in Georgia. We know that it's
been going on in a number of other states also.
So Georgia has the opportunity to set the pace, if
you will, for what needs to actually happen, and then
hopefully it will ensure that others won't follow down this
path again and try and destroy democracy and actually try
and take away you know, black and brown folks when

(01:20:52):
they show up at the polls and high numbers our
opportunity to make sure that democracy is working for everyone again.
So we're you know, we're we're looking at all of this.
Uh you know that that is going on. And I
tell you, Candice, um all across the country. Um, you

(01:21:14):
got elections next year. And at some point these d
d is gonna have some courage because I'm sick of
hearing Oh what how is his? His supporter is gonna respond?
I thought the sound above the Supreme Court says equal
justice under law. You know what, rot, Let me tell
you something. See, this is when your black caucuses. This

(01:21:41):
is where your black collectives and all of these people
need to come into play and hold them accountable. And
I mean, like cha, like grab that chain. Black. Hey,
let's not forget who put you in this office. You
sit up here and let these people play without democracy.
I guarantee we're gonna try to roup if we're gonna
fire you at the post. See, we have to be
aggreath when they come to dealing with this stuff. We

(01:22:02):
have to let these people know, baby, you got the
wrong one, the wrong one. So I guess TOMORROWO, you
don't believe equal underlaw? Actually exists. Oh, I know it
doesn't last. I know it doesn't exist. I mean I
work in a space here for single day and I
know it doesn't exist, and we all know it doesn't exist.

(01:22:23):
And it's shown. That's the that's the that's kind of
the It's the tragedy of Donald Trump that he brought
out so much of the underlying discrimination and racism and
hatred that has been there, but he brought it to
the forefront. That's the real negative of Donald Trump. But
the positive side of Donald Trump, as far as trying
to move our society truly to a more equal place,

(01:22:43):
is that he's really exposing how unequal things are. You
was talking about Duck going as dissenters. This guy while
he's up running around talking about crime, he himself committed
multiple federal crimes by taking immigrants, kidnapping them and putting
them on a plane and sending them to people's homes
and Massaitusetts and other places. But it shows that these individuals,

(01:23:05):
we don't have an equal system. We have a two
tiered system. As my mentor of Brian Stevenson would say,
it's much better to be white and rich than to
be a poor or black in America. Now we all
know that, but we see it so clearly with how
Trump and his cronies are being protected. Look what's going
on in Fox News. These guys have been exposed to

(01:23:27):
extentially giving out disinformation, falsities, lies, and yet the FEC
has not come in and shut them down. They should
have been shut down period. There are news organizations that
has proven and have admitted to lying to their audience
to make money, but they're not shut down. So it
shows that our society is unequal and we have to
continue to push and everything we can to get that

(01:23:49):
equality under law that has always said we're supposed to have.
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Start Network Live from Los Angeles. Rising holding prices has
caused a lot of people to look at alternatives when
it comes to housing. A Georgia developer has created quite
the unique pathway. Uh. And so we're gonna be talking
to him, talking to him in a second about the

(01:29:43):
issue of micro home communities. I really want to know
what the hell that means. But first let's talk about
what's happening that's gonna be in our marketplace segment. That's
like what's happening in Nevada where a video of a
Nevada police officers slamming a student for recording police has
gone viral and Clark County School District police officer was

(01:30:03):
captured on cell phone videos slamming and during slamming a
Durango High School student to the ground and pitying him
underneath his knee. This took place on the paper where
you're ninth when officers arrived to investigating a firearm report
near the school roll it's you know, I heard it

(01:31:13):
a little bit right there, um of course. Uh. Following
the incident in the school district launched the investigation, Clark
kinn Of Superintendent call for a complete review the police
department's use of forced policy, joining us now as a
thar uh Bula hope, I'm pronounced that correct. The executive
director the ACLU in the battle. They've been quite vocal
about this incident and hold the officers accountable. So just

(01:31:35):
so I thought, I'm so, I'm trying to understand here,
were these officers that were in the school, officers that
arrived at the school that happened out of school or
was it near a school? This so called firearm report
near the school? Hey, thanks for having us on fret
out for fire off all day, but um, this incident,

(01:31:57):
uh specifically happened outside of a school. And in Nevada
we have school police, so we have separate police departments here.
One of the police departments that exist in Clark County
is the Clark County School District's Police Department so CCSD police.
They have jurisdiction over certain elements related to incidents in school.

(01:32:20):
This whole entire notion of a firearm is what the
district put out afterwards. I think it was denically. No,
we still have no idea what they're talking about in
terms of a firearm. None of our we're actually representing
to the students that were shown being assaulted by Clark
County School District police there and the firearms story, you know,

(01:32:40):
who knows. I know, our clients did not have any firearms.
There was no basis to even stop them, let alone
attack them. We're disgusted by the fact that the district
first these officers, and the officer most prevalently that slam
one of our clients to the ground is still employed,
and the district Attorney's office had and even bother to

(01:33:00):
investigate this yet. So we have called for that officer's termination,
and we've called for the DA's office to investigate this
as they would any incident of assault. I mean, what
a strange here again, I mean you're seeing, um, how
this police are responding. Uh, and it's just it always
just keeps happening where Uh look how they respond in

(01:33:25):
these school situations h in very much a very violent manner.
I mean again, dragon, this person slamming the head and
I'm up, their head is nearly under the under the
I mean under the base of the car. Yeah. And
and it's a child, you know, That's the That's the
thing is that anytime it's a you know, uh, white

(01:33:48):
kid who's nineteen or a young adult, they'll refer to
him as a child. Um. And these are you know,
these are students who are at the very beginning of
their high school careers and they're being assaulted by police.
And what happens when we see students like this assaulted?
I mean, this is an assault on video. Where's our
district attorney? ACLU is not the district attorney. We're here
to seek justice and we'll do that through civil means,

(01:34:09):
But where is our district attorney? They have the ability
to investigate this. They gave a statement on Friday after
pressure from our office and from the NAACP here where
we called for the day to investigate this, and their
response was if the Clark County School District Police refer
this for prosecution, they'll look into it. So basically, refer
yourself for prosecution and we'll look into it, which has

(01:34:31):
never been the legal standard. It's never been the legal standard.
There's no courage out of that office. They need to
speak up and do something. Certainly, they have the time
to prosecute kids for holding a dime bag of candadas,
or for for missing school, or parents involved in a
domestic squabble, but when it comes to a vicious assault
that's recorded on video, where school police are attacking a child,

(01:34:52):
there's no courage to stand up and do anything about it.
That's what we continue to all the time to Mario,
where trying to hold cops accountable and you're dealing with
das who frankly or invent with them each and every
day they make cases based upon the testimony of officers

(01:35:16):
to as an inherent conflict of interests, something that we
had fought for for decades, trying to take the prosecution
of police officers, or even the investigation of police officers
away from themselves to police and away from the DA's
officers that work with them each and every day. You
don't have to even be a corrupt person to have

(01:35:38):
a difficult time investigating or in prosecuting individuals that you
work with. So it just makes our system again not
an equal justice under the law, because these are friends
of each other. You know. I couldn't tell specifically on
that video what the officer alleged the young man had done,
but based upon what I saw, it appeared young man

(01:36:00):
just had a video, and it actually appeared he was
walking away from the scene and the officer ran up
on a young man and grabbed him and put him
on the ground. So I don't know what the issue
is there for why that happened. I'm glad to see
the ACLU is on board to try to get the family.
As the executive director says, some civil justice, but civil

(01:36:20):
justice is not criminal justice, and criminal justice can only
come either from the DA's office or I don't know
how they do in Divada. Maybe the state Attorney General's
office can pick up and press charges, and of course
the DJ could come in if we had a more
robust DJ, if we had the type of funding for
the DJ civil Rights Division that we give for likes,

(01:36:41):
for instance, Ukraine, where we say we'll stand with them
forever and we'll do whatever they need, and we've already
sent them a hundred billion dollars. If we could get
maybe ten percent or twenty percent of us been sent
to Ukraine for enforcement of civil rights, where the Civil
Rights Division can come out and prosecute these type of malicious,
vicious attacks on young people and black people and innocent,

(01:37:01):
unarmed people, maybe we can move towards that equal justice
under law that we've been talking about all day on
this show. So so demorrow, you're saying that the current
DJ is not doing that, I'm saying the current DLJ
is not doing enough right because they the current DELJ
is under under resource, it's understaffed, it's undefunded. The dj

(01:37:24):
Civil Rights Division is very undefunded. We need double triple
the amount of resources and lawyers and investigators for the
civil rights violations that happen all over this country. See,
the fact of the amount is we see these type
of videos, we see what happened to brother Tyree Knuckles,
or the Memphis or what happened to George Floyd. But
the reality is that that's happening to each and every

(01:37:45):
day all over this country, and many times people don't
have the luxury of having someone videotaping it. And I
don't have the luxury. Even there are many police departments
in this country that don't have body cam or das cams,
and these things that happened to each and every day
to people in our communities. And because these local police departments,
they're not going to investigate themselves, the local prosecutors, they're

(01:38:06):
not going to prosecute unless there's tremendous public outcry. But
look how much energy and it takes to have the
type of outcry that we have in Tyree Nichols or
Ahmad Aubrey or both of them, John or any of
those cases. That's just a fraction of what actually happens.
But if we had a robust DJ, a civil rights
division that was properly staff properly funded, that could go

(01:38:29):
out and bring the charges that are necessary across this nation,
we could possibly have equal justice under the law. Until
that happens, we will, it will not be a reality.
It's what you say, Roland all the time. You gotta
have my funding for black media. You gotta have funding
to fight these white supremacists. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no,
I understand that. What I'm saying. What I'm saying is

(01:38:52):
again there's a difference between saying increased funding and they're
not doing it. Many more needs to be done. What
we ask they have is a DALJ that's been far
more aggressive than Frankly, the Obama DJ was no question
about that. There's no question they're far more aggressive. But
it's still strapped in the starn Oh no demo demo

(01:39:15):
I'm asking Yeah, yeah, no, I would say that, look
there there has they have taken on more cases. Um,
I don't know that that's been enough, right, Um? We've
had DA's on occasion across the country who have taken
on cases. It hasn't been enough. We have certain law
enforcement officers that have stepped up and said certain officers

(01:39:37):
when they're engaged in excessive force and serious misconduct. UM,
they like to see those officers prosecuted. But it hasn't
been enough. And so UM to the point I was made,
I do agree that you know, whether it's a resource
issue or you know, it's the frequency of what's occurring
some of these some of these issues are problematic and
a lot of its local. The dj is not going

(01:39:58):
to step into every community to deal with every issue.
Quite frankly, they'll never have enough resources to be able
to do that. But really in this case here in
Nevada right now, is we're using this as an example.
We're going to push the issue as far as we can.
We know our partners at the end of BACP on
the ground here, who also have new leadership, are going
to be pushing the issue as far as we can.
We're not going to keep settling for you know, on

(01:40:20):
no response from the District Attorney's office. This is an
individual who was elected to seek justice for everyone and
again the fact that they're not even willing to investigate it.
Their feet need to be held to the fire on
these types of issues too, because when you seek fourteen
year old kids being assaulted by grown men for simply
recording a video, we're standing there and doing nothing. There

(01:40:40):
is no justice and until that happens, we're not going
to keep, you know, continuing to just say, let's let's
talk about processes too often that's been their request. We're
demanding solutions right now where we have specific demands. This
officer needs to be terminated, and the longer they're waiting determinating,
we're going to keep seeking potentially additional clients to pursue

(01:41:02):
this and open up further. They have the ability to
handle this matter in house, but again they're afraid of
they're afraid of their unions. And I'll call off the
police unions for this because they do this time and
time again. They continue to cape for bad officers engaged
in misconduct, and it denigrates and destroys the rest of
the field. And then they come and say, you can't

(01:41:23):
paint us all with a bad picture. But when you're
not even willing to stand up to the worst of
the worst what you just saw on a video like this.
It makes it hard to take them credibly when they're
making or taking a position surrounding accountability or surrounding justice
and treatment of really anybody. So again, we're asking for
specific demands and specific solutions here. I don't want to

(01:41:44):
be included in their process. I can tell you what
the process should be here for excessive or stop assaulting
our black kids. It's pretty simple, but they're not doing it,
So fire the officer and prosecutor. All right, We was
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as I said, come on, uh said folks that we're
talking about this issue of housing in micro home ownership.
Pretty interesting concept here. Uh. There's a community in Atlanta
area called the bookaty Washington. Um, it's called the Southern
South Park Cottages, Atlanta's first black on micro home community.

(01:44:58):
Joining us right now is the founding CEA Take Homes
in of course Book of t Washington. So so I'm
trying to explain this to me. What did you say?
What's a micro home? A micro home? Rolling in first,
thanks for having me on the show. But a micro

(01:45:18):
home is just, in its term, just a smaller home.
We've all lived in a home of different sizes. I
would say many years ago or decades ago, we lived
in much smaller homes that are eight hundred and nine
hundred square feet more than we live in homes that
are larger sizes now. And so what my organization take
Homes has done is inside of urban metropolitan areas. In

(01:45:42):
Atlanta is just one city of many that's affected by
rising rental prices, rising home prices, and rising costs of
living that we outpaced, especially for minorities who are already
traveling behind at home ownership, an opportunity at home ownership.
It's almost now that you don't even have a choice

(01:46:02):
at home ownership in certain metro areas is either to
be gentrified out of that area and being forced to
rent because there's no home of good quality or new
construction that would fit your budgets. And so, you know,
my organization Taking Homes created this community, South Park Cottages
here in College Park, Georgia, outside of Atlanta, for that

(01:46:24):
distinct purpose of providing some form of accessible and affordable
home ownership. So you're talking about homes that first of all,
what were the sizes of these homes? The sizes of
our homes range from four hundred square feet to six
hundred and thirty square feet. And the reason that we

(01:46:46):
just find them as micro homes and not tiny homes
is because the average tiny home goes up to three
hundred square feet and predominantly is on wheels or some
form of transported found fundation. But these micro homes are
all foundation, no different than maybe the home you're you're
sitting in right now and built in the same construction

(01:47:08):
type from standard construction build. The difference is it's because
of the cost of construction to the developer and to
the price of the homeowner, which ranges from one hundred
and eighty thousand to two hundred and twenty thousand in
an average mortgage being fourteen or fifteen hundred dollars. That
is a much better option than renting at the average

(01:47:30):
rent of Atlanta, which now exceeds twenty two hundred dollars
for a one bedroom apartment. Interesting here, Mustafa, you're a
bitch had environment. Let's what do you make of this?
First of all, book t Wasathston Man. Thank you so
much for being here with us. Could you talk a

(01:47:50):
little bit about the materials that you all use, because
you know that plays a role also if a home
is smaller in the resell value, because we know we're
alwayso trying to address the black wealth white gap that
exists in our country. So could you talk a little
bit about the tent and what's in the space. Yeah, absolutely,

(01:48:11):
I'm actually sitting in one of our micro homes right now.
The home I'm sitting in is a six hundred and
thirty square feet They're built in modern design and they're
built in them and I would say a above builder
type of great build and most homes. Our homes are
outside cladded with cement board siding. They're built in a

(01:48:31):
stick built frame. They have ten foot ceilings, they have
farmhouse saints and grantite countertops. They feature one loft in
one bedroom loft homes, and feature you know, ceramic tile
and all of the modern fixtures and recess lights that
you have in any standard or luxury built home. The

(01:48:54):
big difference is is that we reduce the square footage
and expand the living space and experience space for the homeowner,
allowing them the opportunity to own a piece of real
estate at the same price or lower than they would renting.
And we can do it in a small area. In
these infidel lots and abandoned and vacant houses, we can

(01:49:15):
tear them down and put twenty homes in a two
acre area, which is better than putting up an apartment
where the minorities are being forced to live and not
have homeownership, decreasing their opportunity to grow in wealth and
grow in prosperity. Canis yeah, sir, Okay. So I did

(01:49:41):
some research on your your organization, and one thing that
I liked about it is that it's all black, and
it's it's all everybody working together in partnership, because you don't.
They always try to say that black people can't work together.
And so the vibe that I'm hitting here is the

(01:50:01):
black Wall Street vibe for some reason. But I mean,
living in Texas and I would cost a living It's
totally different compared to up North because I currently live
in a sixty four hundred square foot home and I'm
only paying twelve one hundred dollars. So how would that

(01:50:22):
work coming into Texas? Because I'm gonna tell you not
nobody in Texas is not gonna pay dat amount, So
how would you maneuver that? But our product, and thank
you for that, and by being all black, developed this
community and this development, which is a multimillion dollars developed development.

(01:50:42):
We developed by crowdfunding. We developed by going to social
media and talking and asking people that look like us
and that connect with us that we wanted to build
this type of community. Now there are more rural spaces
and there are urban and metropolitan spaces. This type community
much more fits in a metropolitan an urban space because

(01:51:04):
in a rule space there will be larger homes at
a much lower price. So, for example, the average twelve
hundred square foot to two thousand square foot home in
Atlanta inside of the major metro Atlanta area new construction
will cost you close to half a million. Now to
ford that house, you have to be making or household

(01:51:26):
has to be making close to one hundred and twenty
five thousand dollars to live. Now, for minorities who predominantly
work in urban areas and more labor jobs or jobs
that incomes are under sixty thousand dollars, if you're not
building a home that fits their cost of living, how
will they ever be able to afford a home unless

(01:51:48):
they move outside of the area they work in. And
if they move outside the area they work in, then
you predominantly are putting more stresses on that household and
more stresses on their income, which makes the equity gap
and the wealth gap go farther and farther apart. The
only ethnic group to decline in net worth over the pandemic.

(01:52:11):
We're blackfolk, and the main reason why is because incomes
went up, gentrification went up, rents went up, investor home
buying of single family and density housing went up, and
they moved out Black people more and more out of
urban areas. You can say that about Chicago, Atlanta, La Miami,

(01:52:34):
and in the course of New York, of course, but
that's just where we are. I got I got literally
forty five seconds TOMORROWO quick question, quick answer, Go man
Booker t Washingta Love. The name went to Booker Washington
High School. Appreciate the work that's doing is really amazing. Here,
tell me a little bit. Tell us more about the crowdfunding.

(01:52:55):
How that worked, How does that work? So the way
we crowdfunded is in this institution of development and real estate,
there's always heavy capital needs. And so we wanted to
prove a point that our community, which has over a
trillion dollars of disposable income as black folks, where we
just spend more of our consumer dollars on material things,

(01:53:15):
and other ethnic groups. We wanted to showcase that our
ethnic group and others can combine and from their own
pockets and small amounts of money do big things, and
that's how we created the first ever micro built community
that is a six million dollar community that sold out
in under thirty days. All right, then, Book Washington, Preacher

(01:53:38):
the Man, thank you so very much. Good luck with it, Yes, sir,
thanks Roth tomorrow, Cannis, I'm gonna stop so appreciate it.
Thank you so very much for y'all joining us on
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