I Have No Idea What Im Doing Feat Kira J (Part Two)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
If you know what I'm saying so so shameless, If
you know what I'm sitting due, so shameless, If you
know what I'm saying somous, so shameless, so so so sumless.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
If you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
So shameless, If you know what I'm saying so shameless,
If you know what I'm saying so shameless, if you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
So I saw that ship with my own eyes and
I never looked back. That that was clarification.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Now what if there was nobody there that day?

Speaker 5 (00:53):
Would that have been Would you have stayed in Delusius
even though he was telling you, Yo, I don't want
to do this no more.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
No because of Eventually I always come back to the
space of who is this person making me? I know
who I am, but I know that men have an
influence to make you somebody else. So who is this
person making me? Who am I when I am with you?
Are you making me a better version of this person
I am? Or are you making me a saint lunatic?
Are you making me crash out? Are you making me

(01:21):
lose myself? So, even independent of that whole situation, I
had to look myself in the mirror and go, I
don't like who this man is making me. You're making
me crazy, you're making me delusional, you're making me depressed,
You're making me all of these things that I'm not.
So I got to give you this back and you
could have that so I can become myself again. And
since him, I haven't dated a man longer than three months,

(01:43):
because I was with him for a couple of years.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
What do you mean you haven't dated hey? Is it?
Is it because you're not healed enough.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
No, it's just because I'm realizing that after three months,
you'll know if somebody has intention on wasting your time.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
When you're young, you could.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Be in that situation ship two, three years and then
you you're trying to figure this out and once you
get to your thirties and stuff. It's all I need
is three months to see what you're trying to be on. Yeah,
and I don't I don't allow myself to ever get
caught in those moments with people where you about to
waste my time for the next few years like he did.
I felt like he wasted a lot of years. So
I have not been with anybody for three months since longer,

(02:20):
since m because the first three months is gonna tell
me everything I need to know what your intentions are.

Speaker 6 (02:24):
Men are very intentional. Men are very intentional, and a man.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
That's coming to waste your time is gonna show you
that they waste your time. I'm not gonna be delusional
enough to act like I don't see what you're trying
to do.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
In fact, so that's all that.

Speaker 6 (02:36):
That only be three months? Okay, bet I'm out of here.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
But three months? Are you? Do you like? Into? Like? Yo? Okay,
let's boyfriend be boyfriend or girlfriend?

Speaker 5 (02:45):
No?

Speaker 6 (02:45):
No, no, just three months to see what your intentions are,
got it?

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Because in them three months, you're gonna know if this
person has intentions on being serious with you and them.
Three months, you're gonna turn know if that person has
intentions on just fucking you, right, and you're gonna know
what they're gonna be be on in the first three months,
and nobody has made it past them three months.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yeah, yeah, that makes very much so sense right there?
Who we are part in today?

Speaker 2 (03:13):
If you shut out that album, man, we are part.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
In today for sure.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
So I'm gonna skip one of the ones that I
wanted to talk about and get into a song.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
It's actually the out or the album. Mmm, you you
did this thing with your son and was.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
That your son at the end to my daughter? That's
your daughter at the end. So he's your son in
the beginning and your daughter at the end. Very Lauren
Laurence Hill is type of vibe.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
I actually modeled the album after her.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Really, yeah, sixteen tracks because she had one intro and
then fifteen songs. So I did one intro and then
fifteen poems, right, And I wanted to put the album
out on my birthday, which was August nineteenth. And guess
when the missed education that Lauren Hill came out August nineteenth,
nineteen ninety eight. That's crazy, right. It was divine, It
was meant to be.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Is that like one of the items when it comes today?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Ebisode. I love Lauren Man.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
She makes me feel so seen in my growth because
she's not one of those people that try to you know,
I'm perfect and model my way. It's like, no, I'm
gonna make these mistakes that the world is gonna see, definitely,
and you can evolve and change and grow into whatever
version of yourself you want to be. And the way
she talks about God and family and motherhood. I tried
to make my album the poetry version of the Miseducation.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
So there's two things I want to play. JD already
knows one of them. I think he knows. I think
I know where you're going. But I'm not gonna be
evil with it. I'm not gonna be evil. My version
of evil, my version of not evil. It's still another
person's version of evil. I'm she's trying to figure out
in what order do.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
I do this.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
I'm gonna play the outro first, I'm gonna play I'm
gonna play your clip flourish first.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
My clip, Yeah, the clip that we had from the
last episode.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
JD was on right. I'm really loved. I love JD's energy,
I love the way he pods. I've been on his
show a few times. He's come over here a few times.
We'll see where that leads us. Appreciate it. Last episode
we spoke about dating women with children, and so now

(05:28):
you know.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Wh Yeah knew, you knew the whole time.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
You knew the whole time. I knew the whole time.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
Let me see, let me see if I can, if
I can find it, it's on here somewhere I'm sorry, y'all.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
I should be more these things happen.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
I should be more on point with the way I
do things. This the alarms just don't tell black people
how to feel.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
I have no idea what this is that.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
I don't want to be your kid at least six months.

Speaker 7 (06:15):
If I'm deading a woman with kids, I don't want
to meet your kid at least six months to yeah,
six months to yeah. I'm like, all right, cool, because
I ain't trying to be stepdad. Like I ain't trying
to be nothing.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
I ain't trying to be.

Speaker 7 (06:29):
Nothing like if I was like thirty five, forty forty
five or whatever the case is, but like early thirties,
we're gonna have to just calm it down. I could
still be with a woman that don't have kids, Yes
I don't. She could have a kid or two, whatever
the case is, but I don't want to see them.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
I don't want to be involved in that life at all.
I don't want to know about your baby daddy. Just
tell me if you crazy, But I don't want to
know your baby daddy doing what.

Speaker 7 (06:53):
I don't want to know nothing about your kids until
it's time.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
You know what I'm saying, Yo, I've.

Speaker 8 (06:57):
Met so many people's kids, and that's the thing that
made me hold onto the relationship longer than I was
supposed to.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
And that's that problem right there. I don't want to
be committed into this yet, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I wouldn't even date a.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Woman with kids, to be honest. Don't look like that.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
It's all right, bro, don't look like that like that
I said that. I'm like, yo, I don't know how
this ship makes me look bad for having my type
of fucking standards, but like now, I'm cool with it.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
I don't think it's a standard. I just think it's
a preference.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Preference, preference, yeah, preference. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
I didn't think it was that bad. Bro.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
I didn't think it was that single mother and I
don't think it's that bad. Yeah, it made me, but
like I don't, Thank god, nobody killt my eyes on.
A lot of people agree with.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
You, especially because you gave a time period upon when
things when that should happened.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
It's normal.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's normal if you're like older, Like you know what
I'm saying, Like, I feel like most people like if
I'm forty you might have a kid. I'm definitely okay
with that. But I do think, you know, there's a
lot it's a lot.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
Well that goes into the outro. Uh to, I have
no idea what I'm doing. The album by Kira Ja.
She spoke to her son in the beginning, just empowering
him as a black boy, like, Yo, the world is
going to look at.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
You a certain way.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
I want you to always know who you are, you know,
and speak that to yourself.

Speaker 4 (08:27):

Speaker 5 (08:28):
And it's a great That was a great clips, great
way to open the album.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
But this ending it gives me chills.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
Literally, this outro gives me chills as you speaking to
your daughter. And that's at the end of the last song.
Do you believe God?

Speaker 4 (08:50):
Let me turn this up. Let me see.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
I'm sorry y'all if it was too loud for y'all.
Yesterday told me like, Yo, you're bugging. I had to
turn my bad. I didn't know talk about that.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Is this a real thing where your daughter's really like,
aren't you with?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
And she's nine now. I don't think we realized that.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Like we talk about single motherhood and a lot of
boys growing up with single.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
Mother's this, and that boys don't.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Long for that father in the same exact way that
girls long for that father, because boys are mama's boys
and girls are daddy's girls. So when you're raising a
girl without no daddy, she's like, oh you can me
messed up, like where's my dad?

Speaker 6 (09:36):
You gotta do something. But she doesn't fully understand.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
At that time, I believe she was only five, so
she couldn't really understand why I wasn't with anyone, because
in her mind, you date someone.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Then I get a dad.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
In my mind, I am protecting you from people that
don't have the best intentions for either one of us.
Because it's a single mother, a lot of people will
date you just to get to your kids. A lot
of people will pursue you, especially if you have little
girls in your house. So I went a long time.
Nobody can even come in my house, nobody can know
where I live. And I'm thinking, I'm protecting you. But

(10:09):
you know, when she's having those conversations with me, it's like,
it's hurting me that I just don't get a stepdad
because you're scared.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
You know.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
So we had that conversation. Her father is incarcerated, so
she's since he's been gone, she's been looking for me
to bring someone into the fold. She wants to have
a father figure. But you gotta be worthy. A lot
of people are not worthy. If I can't even find
a man that is worthy enough to be my man,

(10:38):
imagine trying to find a man that is worthy enough
to be my man and my daughter's potential stepfather hasn't happened,
and she's nine. So I just I just do the
single mother thing to protect us both from that disappointment.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
What kind of pressure is that? Pure? It is?

Speaker 3 (10:54):
But I will say this, I'm much more scared of
allowing her to be mistreated and disrespected by a man
then I am scared of her watching me be single.
Because it's like, if I make the wrong call to
give you something, I could rebringing any wrong influences in
this house. I know that the responsibility on how my
daughter turns out is on me, because I am her

(11:17):
only influence in here. But if I decide, okay, this
is what you're asking for and I start rotating people,
when that got anger issues, they got this, they got that,
they got commitment issues, Imagine what it's going to be
like if I showed my daughter a man disrespected me.
Nine years in, She's never heard me get called out
of my name.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Nine years in.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
She's never seen me laid up crying fetal position because
somebody's cheating on me. Nine years in, she's never seen
any type of negativity surrounding me and love and relationships.
So granted, she has also not seen me being spoiled.
She has also not seen me getting loved on. But
she's seen me loving myself. She's seen me doing the
self work. She's seen me just just trying to be

(11:58):
the best woman I can be for her. So you know,
I may not be able to teach her how to
have a healthy relationship with a man as of yet,
but I can teach her how to have a healthy
relationship with herself just by me staying single.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
That's some sad shit, it is. I'm sorry again. It
is because you trying to speak. There's a positive side
to what you're saying, but there is an abyss. There
is a dark side, to an empty side, to something
missing that you can't really account for, but you also
can't force it. Forcing it brings shit that you're never

(12:34):
going to forgive yourself for later.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
On, So it's kind of like and of the hardest
part of it is not being able to relate to her.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I was raised by my dad.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
My dad tuck me in every night. My dad calls
me every day, Hey, baby, what you're doing. So I
don't know what it's like to not have a father
in your life every day. I don't know that. So
I struggle. I have this guilt that I've put you
in a situation. When I was dating my daughter's father,
I was thinking, Rae to die. I could support him.
My boyfriend was always in and out of jail. It

(13:07):
didn't bother me because I had him. I'm gonna do
the visits, I'm gonna do the bids, I'm gonna do
the lawyers, I'm gonna do the court dates, whatever. I
never factored in what it would be like to make
that someone's father. I never even thought about the future children,
how it was gonna be for them not having their
father president. So when I talk, you know, I opened
the album with her brother. That's not my biological child.

(13:28):
He cheated on me, had a baby, but me and
the child's mother we have an understanding.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
Nieces both of our kids. Now he's up the top.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
He's gone, so I treat them both the same, the
children that he left us with, And it's just like,
I feel so guilty for that, and I don't make
excuses for that.

Speaker 8 (13:44):
I know.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Let a lot of single mothers say things like, oh,
you don't know who that person was.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
They get you pregnant and they change.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, but a lot of times we ignore who they
were that whole time. We just wasn't thinking for the
longer picture our Granted, I'm thirty four now, so who
I am at thirty four is definitely nothing in common
with the twenty four year old woman that made that child.

Speaker 6 (14:06):
So you know, I just be accountable.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
The minute you not, even when after that nut in
you that hey, I gotta talk, we gotta talk, text,
call God or yo, I missed my heart on the
floor though, that's when you saw going, Oh no, she
like staying there till six oh.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Grandmother.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Single parents are selfish, and that's something that nobody wants
to talk about. Single mothers, single fathers, a lot of
us are fucking selfish because when we set up there
and we made these kids, we factored in how it
would affect us.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
We didn't even think.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
That this person that we was having this child with
with somebody's parents. I didn't even think about my daughter
when I was in a relationship with him for all
these years. I didn't even think about what it would
be like for her to grow up without a manner
he life.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I was thinking about myself. That was so selfish. That
was so selfish.

Speaker 6 (15:04):
So you know, here we are, that's what.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
I could do.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
But hearing her story, hearing.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
That, does that do you feel any I don't want
to say pressure, but like, do you do you look
at single mothers differently, not even after this conversation, but
do you understand like what they're going through as single mothers?

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Because we were like, yo, I don't want to deal
with your kids. I don't want to.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
When you when you see what they're going through on
that side, does that change anything at all?

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Makes you can't say it like it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
It kind of solidifies his point.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
It definitely does, because again, there's a difference between dating
a single woman with children versus dating a single mother.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
It's not the same thing.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
When I'm talking when he's talking about a woman with children,
he's saying things like me and you need to vibe
for a while. We need to kick it, and we
need to be locked in before I'm introduced to your kids,
because I don't want to be a part of that.
When you're dating a woman with children, you can do
that because they probably got weekends we here and there
with daddy.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
When you're dating a single mother, just know that these
kids have nowhere else to fucking go.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
You're gonna see my children because they are part of
my daily life. I am the only primary factor. So
women with children and single mothers date very different. And
the woman with a children, those are the ones who
say things like I'm not looking for a child from
I mean a father for my children. I'm just looking
for a man for myself. But a single mother, we're
not saying that because yeah, I do.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Need with me.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
My child is a part of this.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
I do need a father for my child. Those are
two different conversations. So women with children single mothers, those
conversations are different.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
And then both eventually you still have.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
To meet you still, yeah, you know sure? And then
I say, with the single mother situation, kid comes first,
for first and foremost, right, I am okay with sharing
the time in situations like I've dated woman with kids,
this is like whatever.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
I've dated woman with.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Kids, but I didn't find out until they was willing
hey to let you know I have a child. Oh
that information came pretty late, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
It came pretty late.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Okay, Cool, what's the situation, Like, you know, I need
to know mad things and it's just too much pressure.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
It's unnecessary for me personally, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Where it's like in just in this early stage of
like being in my thirties, I just don't think it's
it's I think it's unnecessary drama for me. You know
what I'm saying, And I do, and that's being selfish,
but it's I'm okay, I'm okay with that and that
and that aspect because I do think you jump into

(17:56):
something like that, man, you gotta really be like, yo,
this woman is amazing and she's fantastic. We won't be
rocking for a year. I meet your kid now, I'm
in it.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
You know what I'm saying. I'm in it.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
It's like a commitment thing, like let's be honest, like
I'm not into meet and your kid and then next
week I'm done. That's that's fucked for me and I'm
not into and like, I have my father in my life,
but I was raised by a single woman.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
You know what I'm saying. I don't want to I'm
not doing that to another kid. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
I'm got to be like, Okay, I'm in your I'm
in your child's life. I'm playing with this mofo in
the park, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Or or or we we we we go whatever the
fuck we go to the movies. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Like as a unit as a family, if you will,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (18:46):
Two months from now? Nothing?

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Now your your child asking about me? Where jd at Yo?
You face she faced time or he facetimed me?

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Or like yo, what the games like? Just two months?

Speaker 3 (19:00):
You ever heard she got kids by life Jennings. Go
listen to that song when this episode is over. It
perfectly describes everything you're talking about, because life is basically
breaking down.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
There's nothing against this woman.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
But I have to discern if this is the responsibility
that I'm ready to sign up for.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
And that's all.

Speaker 6 (19:15):
I don't think it's anything wrong with that.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
So I don't think it's anything wrong with men having
the preference of who they prefer to date. The conversation
becomes volatile when men who feel like if someone is
not my preference or my type, she shouldn't be anybody
else's type. And when you look at the podcast world,
there are very few men that get on a microphone
and say I wouldn't date a single mother. That's not

(19:37):
what I prefer. And a lot of men who say
nobody should date single mothers. Why are y'all dating them?
To try to convince other people that if I don't
want this woman, then nobody else should want this woman.
And that's why we get into these gender war debates
and topics, because if someone is not your type, then
just leave them alone. You're not bashing single women or
single mothers. You're just saying, you know, I prefer not

(19:59):
to Yeah, but you're not stopping anybody else from dating them.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Because you're not my.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Dream girl doesn't mean you're not the woman of somebody
else's dreams. And I think, just to take it back
to the simplicity of starting a family, there's absolutely nothing
wrong and I'm saying this as a single mother. There's
nothing wrong with saying the person that I lay down
and have my first child with. I would like the
person that to be their first child as well. There's

(20:25):
nothing wrong with that because I feel like it's someone
with kids. I prefer to date men with children just
in case we get to the point I need to see.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
How you parent.

Speaker 6 (20:35):
If you're coming in, I need to see what your
references look like.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
How have you parented the children that you already have
For me to know how you're gonna help with my
child or how you're gonna help with any future children
we may have.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
That makes a lot more sense.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
It's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
You want a woman, the woman that you have a
child with, for y'all have your own family, for y'all
to have your own unit. Because me and Tahoe have
talked about a lot of times, like blending. Ain't easy
dealing with somebody else is baby father or baby mother?

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Ain't you know walking a park like that?

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Shit?

Speaker 2 (21:03):
It's not easy.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
So I could care about you, But do I choose
to sign up for that? Do I choose to add
that to my life when I don't have that baggage?

Speaker 5 (21:12):
Nigga, you know it's one thing to be a step
dad too the kid. Now you got to be this
step co parent like betwet.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Go to the family functions and ship not even.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
That may be having issues and now you got to
figure out what's best for the kid when both of
them are blinded by the emotional baggage that they have.
So you're trying to talk to her like this ship.
If you really evolved, you go talk to him on
the other end, bro, like we could just you know,
no disrespect, if you want, I could do this, you
know what I'm saying, because I really think you know
this that the other but I don't want to overstep
my boundaries. So now you now you push it because

(21:50):
that's a bigger picture. But they won't do it because
they don't have to. They have the privilege of actually
being the parent. So they get to kind of like
fuck the kid, fuck you and my baby, my baby brother,
and they don't care so much about how what happened
the imprint on the kid because they got their whole issues.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
But you're there, like it's even more problematic.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Hell's even more problematic the baby daddy hood, nigga. You
know what I'm saying, I gotta talk to this.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
That has that has kept me in the city.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Gun on his lap that has.

Speaker 6 (22:27):
Definitely kept me single in the city.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
When I used to live in New York, men would
not date me if they found out who my baby
father was. I don't want to And I went and
I moved and I.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Started a new life. I'm saying, I'm not I'm cool.
Like he got a gun in his lap, he got it.
It's caused tinted all the way straight. I don't know
what he's doing. I hate to see that, you know
what I'm saying, A tinted ass called he song.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
I'm terrified that. I was like, God, damn, he this
I actually have.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
I'm telling you, I ain't dealing with those types of bass.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
All right, I do want to say, obviously we we
We ran into the second episode talking about I have
no idea what I'm doing. Kire an amazing project, actually
absolutely amazing project. Not only do I think that y'all
should get the album right, Taylor Swift, those numbers by

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the ship, you know what I'm saying, are do.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
They sell physical copies?

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Not yet? We still stream, but you could buy.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
It, and so yeah, can we can we support in
that way not only for care but for yourself. Right,
this is a great Sunday afternoon cleaning the chicken. You
know what I mean, just had that ship playing in
the background. Bro, this is amazing with your man in
the room watching football play that ship in the other room. Son, Like, Yo,
it's just an amazing vibe.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
But also.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
She's on tour all over all the time, Nigga. She
ends one tour, she'd be like, Yo, I'm starting another tour.

Speaker 6 (24:09):
Like what back outside, I was like, Yo, you just
got toy.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah, well you know I got it. There's another fifty
countries I need to go to. Fuck, So yeah, if
you have the opportunity.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
I was mad as fuck that I didn't go see
Rihanna when she was on her Anti tour.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
When that that.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
That was a moment in time, and I was like, fuck,
because she's not doing it no more.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
Right.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
I feel the same way about Kira with her not
only her album with a spoken word. You have to
experience that. You have to experience that with what you
see with you know, I know y'all feel it. But
she's just talking, and y'all you start kind of getting
entranced by her. You're like, imagine that on stage when
she's glaming it up nigga. She's really doing that spoken words.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
It's a vibe.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
Bro, You're sitting there just staring at like like google guy, guy,
Like it's amazing, it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
And she's a real person. This is like looking not
for person. What is your next show thought?

Speaker 3 (25:14):
She's always working, always working, tapping for real.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
She had to do something. I ain't got no man
full of time.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
So uh yeah, vibe with us over there. You might
see me there, man, because I'm really trying to just
be a part of the vibe where she's out like
she's she's an amazing individual, amazing, and we're not going
to where I want to show you a part of
her negative side.

Speaker 6 (25:36):
Now let's do Let's figure out why she's been in therapy.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Let's man, that was good that first a one changed fu.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
It was therapy session.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
Yo.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
Yes you are right over there, you're right, okay, Damn,
she'd be doing this on purpose.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
It's the home too gorgeous.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
She's doing that on purpose, like even like him, like no,
these nipples need to breathe, period, Okay, and mighty asshole
to see asshole.

Speaker 8 (26:17):
For not picking up my ex'es daughter from school when
I picked up our son.

Speaker 9 (26:22):
Yes, are you sure by that? Okay?

Speaker 8 (26:28):
Ex cheated on me when I was pregnant with our son,
who's now eight, and because of this, he now has
a daughter who's also eight, with his affair partner, who's
now his wife. We are not on good terms and
I do not have a relationship with my ex'es daughter.

Speaker 9 (26:42):
I have never spoken a word to.

Speaker 8 (26:43):
Her or spent any significant time in her presence. X
and I split custody fifty fifty with our son. Two
weeks ago, I got a call from the school during
custody time. Her exes custody time, so he should have
been picking the son up from school.

Speaker 9 (26:59):
So two weeks ago, I had a call from.

Speaker 8 (27:00):
The school during his custody time stating nobody had picked
our son up from school and was asking if I.

Speaker 9 (27:05):
Would come and get him.

Speaker 8 (27:06):
When I got to the school, my ex's daughter was
also there and the teacher was with her. She told
me I was on the approved list to pick up
my ex'es daughter and that I would need to take
the boat them both. I said no, and I told
her that I did not want to be on that
list as I would never pick this child up from school.

Speaker 9 (27:27):
She told me that she would pass along the word.

Speaker 8 (27:29):
And that it would be taken care of, but I
would have to call and follow up to make sure
that it was taken care of. My ex never told
me or his wife. Or his wife never told me too,
that I was an authorized pick up person for the daughter.
When he realized that I didn't pick up his daughter
with our son, he was furious. He asked me how

(27:49):
I could leave her behind when I have our son
unplanned anyway, I told him via our parenting app that
I picked up our son as I would always do
if needed, but his daughter is not my child and
I will not be their emergency pickup contact. According to
my ex's daughter, she was there until seven because I

(28:10):
refused to pick her up with our son.

Speaker 9 (28:13):
She is a child, and I understand that it's not ideal.

Speaker 8 (28:16):
I don't feel bad per se, but I wonder if
I would be considered an asshole for being unwilling to
do this just this once. This is not something I
want to be a regular that I want to be
a regular thing, and it's the first time it ever happened.
My ex's wife was apparently delayed from getting out of
town and my ex was working, but am iv asshole.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
But this is why you gotta be careful with like
who you having a kid with. Yes, I'm saying because
at the end of the day, a good person is
a good person. Like I know, I disagree with the
father and the woman like not. No, you can't put
me on a list, like fuck, you put me on
a list without telling me.

Speaker 4 (28:59):

Speaker 2 (29:00):
As as however, pick the kid up, man, like, come on,
be a good person, you know what I mean. At
the end of the day, pick the kid up like
that the kid has the kid is not in this drama.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
I don't know if I agree. Yeah, I about to say, Jay,
I don't know, man, fuck it.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
Go ahead, I don't disagree, but my role here is
to see things totally right.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Better fact, let me hear.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
No, I want to hear you first because this is
personal to me. This is my exact scenario. So I'm
gonna hear you first.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
I'm looking if I can look at this from the outside,
looking at right, because obviously and she told it, so
I could see if he told it, it probably be worse, right,
or if the other mother told it, it probably worse.
But she told it, it sounds bad enough. The thing
is they communicate through a parenting app.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, did you see my face?

Speaker 5 (29:58):
Like they communicate through a parenting apt after eight years.
That's crazy because I would assume that at the time
when both these children were conceived, break up and we're
both pregnant and me and you not together them, I.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
Assumed that that's what happened. I think that's what happened, right,
And he stayed with.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
The other, with the affair partner and married her.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
And married the other Girl's crazy, right?

Speaker 5 (30:25):
There is an extreme bitterness here, extreme and I'm not
sure if I would even want that person picking up
my kids.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Actually, right about that?

Speaker 5 (30:42):
You you you're not. She's not in a good place
with this. I wouldn't even say. I don't know who
is the person who is the architect of the parenting
app and whatever negativity that they have.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
But I have, she.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
Said custody, and I have never spoken to that child.
You got listen to what's being said. Do you really
want this person being a person that that is picking
up your kid.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Or like, I don't know, but but does it?

Speaker 4 (31:13):
So? Did dad miss information though? Yeah? But putting her
on the list, that's bad, that's bad.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
That was bad, Like, you got to think about this,
bro This person don't fuck with child at all and
is extremely bitter even towards a child. And I can
hear it just by the way that little paragraph talk
to that child. I have never communicated with that child,
but the child the kids speak because.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
I mean, they're in the same school with the dad
who he go to his dad house, that lives with him.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
What I'm saying is is that's a sibling.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
This is This is my take on it. Because I
was with my ex for a decade. He cheated on
me while I was pregnant, got somebody else pregnant. It
was devastating. It was one of the worst times in
my life. I don't think I've ever been that low
and will never be that low again. It broke us up,
and it broke me, and it was a lot of
drama first couple of years. Especially the drama evaporated when

(32:11):
my daughter's brother got here for me, because I say,
you don't know love until.

Speaker 6 (32:16):
You have to love through pain.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
It was f my ex at a time, it was
f that woman that broke up my relationship, and at
the time, it was f that baby. How could y'all
all do this to me the minute that I seen
a picture of him and he looked like my daughter.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
It has nothing to do with nobody.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
For me personally, because now my love for him has
nothing to do with my ex or his mother.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
This is my daughter's brother.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
That's somebody that she's gonna love like it's nobody's business.
And if you know my daughter, her brother is her
fucking life. She don't care how he got here. That
got nothing to do with nothing. So for me, I
feel so much empathy for this woman because I was
in those shoes and I could understand the bitterness. But

(33:03):
the more you love your child, it makes it impossible
not to love someone who is connected to your child.
My love for her brother, he's the first part of
my album.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
It makes it like my daughter is going to love
this person so much, And I can't see myself having
any ill feelings on malice to somebody who is going
to be such a huge part of my child's world.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
So for me, again, I talk about how breaking houses
and ship.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
After the breakup with me and my ex, and he
was going back and forth between.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Me and the baby mom and me and the baby
mom I.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Broke into his house one day and she was there
and he wasn't, and I was like me, and you
need to have a conversation. You can have him if
you choose to still deal with him.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
Oh I can't glance.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yes, I'm I'm playing the game.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
She just walks in. Hey, I need to talk about this.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
I speak about my past mental instabilities. This is prior
to therapy and so Brian Ty, I was breaking at
anybody else. If my kid is there, I'm getting it there.
He didn't tell me who was watching her. One day
and the other baby mama was there, and I'm like,
who got my daughter? And this is when all of
the drama is still going on. They're like two at
this point, who got my daughter? He's like, Oh, she's

(34:28):
with my brother and a brother on Instagram outside. So
I was like, oh, okay, I got a break in
because you don't want to tell me who got my daughter.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
I get to the house.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
The other baby mama is there, and she's like worried
that I'm about to fight in front of these kids,
or she's worried that it's about to be drama because
I just fucking broke in.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
And I stopped and I pulled her.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
We had a conversation in the kitchen, and I looked
at her and said, like, I don't want to be
with him anymore. We could end all of this beef
right now, so long as you can assure me that
it would not fuck my relationship with your son. And
she was like, you know what, I was nervous about
even letting you around my son because I know how
I came into this relationship. I know that that anger

(35:10):
you had from me breaking up what you have for
ten years and helping him cheat with me. And now
I got his baby like I would initially, I'm not
trusting my son with you. And I'm like, listen, if
you see how I love my daughter, you got to
know that your son is not going to get anything
less than that.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
He looks like my fucking baby bro. This is the
boy version of my baby. He's good.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
I don't want this baby daddy no more. That's all y'all,
that's y'all business. I only want communication with him. I
only want to be present for him off the strength
of my daughter. It took a lot of strength to
do that. So I barely speak to my baby father anymore.
Me and his mom have an understanding. I get him
for summers. He comes to Houston with me. If I
go to Disney, I'm coming to get him. I'm taking

(35:52):
him to Disney out and took him last summer. I
had him in New Orleans with me. That's my baby
and I've been out of that relationship there at eight
now his birthdays actually today, I'm gonna go see him
when I leave.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
Yes, that's my heart.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
And it's because I prioritize my child over any of
my pain and trauma and feelings, you know what I mean.
And I also feel like kids are so innocent. If
you don't acknowledge that how innocent children are, then you're
gonna put your pain and your experience is above everything.
He didn't do nothing to me. He don't know nothing

(36:26):
about their love triangle between me, his mom and his dad.
He'd be asking me every Thanksgiving, like why on Thanksgiving
we can't just all have Thanksgiving with you my mom
and my dad. I'm just like, you'll understand when you
get older, baby, And then he asks him and his
sister sometimes they gang up on me and they ask
me like what's going on with you and daddy? Like

(36:49):
why are you and daddy not together, And I just
look at them and say, y'all the same age, and
y'all will unerstand when y'all get older.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Baby, they don't understand it.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
But there's no way my love for my child, there's
no way, my love for my child could ever put
your sibling in an unsafe situation. You don't love your
kid enough if you play with they sibling. Because our
siblings are the closest people to us. Our siblings, my siblings,
my brothers, and my sisters are my life outside of

(37:18):
my daughter.

Speaker 6 (37:18):
They're right next to that.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
There's no way in the world I'm gonna know how
my daughter feels about her brother and leave him strand
at somewhere till seven pm.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Absolutely absolute. I was saying that shit makes my heart.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
My daughter's gonna lose respect for me if I don't
make sure her brother's straight. You see what I'm saying,
She don't play about her brother. If I start acting
any type of bitterness towards her brother, I'm gonna lose
my relationship with my daughter. So off the love for
my child, I could not do that. And I feel
again it's providing that empathy for this woman because it's

(37:51):
eight years later and you haven't gotten over that. You're
still mad, they're married whatever.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Broken.

Speaker 6 (37:56):
You're broken, And I get it because I was broken too.
But if you get enough guard in your life and
you go to therapy and you have that community.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
It's a difference between you and her because I feel
like you, you're a good person. I had to do
so much healing as I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
It wasn't It wasn't an overnight process.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Though.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
It's not easy for.

Speaker 6 (38:14):
A woman when you with somebody for a long time.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
For you to leave me and yeah, we were together
for a decade and you left me and you cheated.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Now you're with her and these kids who cares?

Speaker 4 (38:24):
Also?

Speaker 10 (38:25):
Can I add that she's going back to the parents
and that thing. If they're still communicating via that all
this time later, then there's really been no healing. There's
really been no real resolve, you know what I'm saying,
especially at this point, for her to, like Kira said,
for you to see your your child's siblings somewhere first
of all, just to break them up. If they both
were there late, that means that they were together. So

(38:46):
for you to come and break down, to break it up.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
It's insane.

Speaker 6 (38:51):
I can't fathom it.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
I can't.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
And then a lot of people don't know.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
I've had people tell me like, oh, you don't post
your son as much as you post your daughter. You
you are bad mom or whatever, and I'm like, well,
he's not my biological son. I don't have him all
the time, but anything that my daughter gets, he gets.
If I'm going on vacation, I'll come to New York
to pick him up first and take him wherever me
and my daughter's going. And I have to respect the
boundary of how that feels to his mother. And it

(39:15):
is okay if I post this, if I do that,
Da da da da. It's just that that whole thing
was heartbreaking to me because I can empathize with that
woman because you haven't done the healing. But it's like,
how are you loving your child if you hate their parent.
I could not love my daughter enough if I didn't
forgive her father. He violated, he broke me. But you
look like this, nigga. I gotta let it go.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
And there are a lot of parents that just don't
like the child once the situation doesn't go well. Exactly
know that there are mothers that resent the kid, and
I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
Their father's be like fuck that kid.

Speaker 5 (39:51):
Yeah, me and your mommy, I ain't being no dad.
Fuck it, that's you, you know what I'm saying. So
they are parents that really don't fuck with the kid
once that relationship and yo, she went through some horrible ship.

Speaker 6 (40:03):
Yeah, that's what I'm like, Can you get my empathy?

Speaker 3 (40:05):
I'm so sorry, but as someone who went through something
almost exactly similar, because I'm pretty sure like my exen
and his other baby mother are still you know, that's
not my business. I'm here for these kids. That's all
that God can teach me to do. Like, I have
nothing to do with that.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
One or two more more, y'all?

Speaker 5 (40:25):
Good, yep, everybody. Ship was tough to seven o'clock. Seven,
seven o'clock. It is night for me for a fucking
eight year old seven o'clock bed in the next hour,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
That's crazy. The son is son is down and almost
a bad person like to me like that, But you
couldn't have known that they was the kid was gonna
be there.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
It don't matter.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
I'm the type of person that I would have been like,
you know what, I don't noticed child. I don't like
their parents, but kids, every child is safe in my care.
If kids are not, everybody's kid is getting taken care
of a stranger on the street. If I see a
kid and a kid look like the kidn need help,
everything gets stopped until the kidneys help.

Speaker 6 (41:12):
That has nothing to do with nothing else going on.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
That's just I don't know.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
I feel so bad for her because as a woman,
do you know what type of anguish you gotta be
in to look at a child and not treat them
like own. That ship is in our blood. We are nurturers.
I don't I feel so bad for her. I just
feel so much empathy for her because she needs a
lot of healing, some healing.

Speaker 10 (41:32):
Definitely needs because it's like, even if that was your
child's friend, you would have grabbed it. You know, if
they lived down the block, around the corner, you would
have just grabbed the front. It would have been no
thought about it. Don't think there was that much thought
and that much Yeah, pushback.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
It's too much. It's too much. It's like that's a
bad vib bro. That's like person, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (41:50):
And now you're a kid and you on the way home,
they're like, yo, what And.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
That goes back to what we talked about. Don't let
nobody make you somebody or not correct? Who did that?
Who did that situation make you? That situation made you?

Speaker 4 (42:04):
Spite from what you're thinking right now? Asshole? You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, and asshole, every time you got to ask yourself
that question. That's probably.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
If anytime I asked that question, y'all tell me I.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Am no, No, I know, I'm an asshole, you know
what I'm saying. Like at times, I can be one
thousand percole.

Speaker 5 (42:20):
You know, some some real bad people out here though
it's some real negative You know, I go to the
store last night.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Did you see that on the corner of this block.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
If y'all walked to the corner of this block, they
wrote somebody's So you know, the city's redoing the corner caps.
They they're repaving the corners of all the blocks around here, right, Okay.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
The little people that the.

Speaker 5 (42:46):
Niggas while the cement was wet, put two people's name,
the New York City driver's number, their Social Security number,
their address.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
And they're a name in this cement.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
It's at the corner right now, two people, big covering
the whole block. You know how to block the whole thing.
If you step on the crack, you break your mother's back.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
It covers the whole thing.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
Big letters, letters, this, big, such and such full first last.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
Name, New York state, I D number, social security number.
They're writing it out for you, just in case you
need it. Whole ship address. I go look at it.
It's real. The name.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
The girl has her name on her page on Instagram,
so I go to check it to They want to
message her like, yo, you gotta follow report.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
You got to get that off. The got your ship
on the corner. Crazy.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
I think that's scary, you know, you know how much
the motherfucker I thought.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
I had enemies. That's a that's an enemy.

Speaker 6 (43:58):
That's that's when you beef with the mentally ill, mentally unstable.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
You know how They.

Speaker 5 (44:03):
Said, she ain't respond, she got too many more messages,
somebody got some credit cards open, she.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Can't respond you it's tough, broh, My god, that's tough, man.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
I didn't I make.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Sure to try to cover it, all of it, because
why would someone do that?

Speaker 4 (44:21):
Then I realized that's even too much information.

Speaker 5 (44:23):
They got all her ship spelled correctly, every number, everything,
But how.

Speaker 10 (44:28):
Did you know about how did you know that they
just finished the cement to do that like.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
That, Like how did that even cross your mind? It's like,
that's like plotting what I'm saying, how did you know
to do that? Because you know what the corporate definitely
lives around here.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
I was talking to one of my friends the other
day about how I struggle when I see stuff like
that because I'm a little green when it comes to people.
I'm a look on the bright side ass person and
maybe they were going through something. And then she's always
telling me like, here are some people or just bad people.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Some people have an evilness in them, and I'm like, no,
you know, it just be the situation. Damn, that's some
bad ship, like some evil ship right there.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
That should come back. How do you you can't come back?
I can't.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
I can't rationalize what that type of ugliness because I
would just never do that. And I've been in the
space of being unhappy. I've been bitter, I've been heartbroken
and hurt.

Speaker 5 (45:17):
That is crazy, That's that's Broadway.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
It's you know how many.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
People walk right there every day.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
It's tough before the city could come do something with that,
and they probably take a minute to do it too,
because you know, we just came out. They just they
right there. Bro.

Speaker 5 (45:37):
I might go to the cement people around the corner
and just just cover that up. It's just nuts, bro yourself.
It's not hard to make, yo. You know, I'm a whole.
It's not hard to water and just put it over.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
Yo. That's fucked up. But then one of them is like, yo,
such and such as a rat. You don't need that one.
I don't know. I mean, did he tell.

Speaker 5 (46:02):
Like to see the paperwork speaking of kids in rats?
Hold on, I've seen this on the intern at the
other day.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
Do I have it? Yo, I'll be yo. There's so much.
If it wasn't for this show, I.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
Would not be on social media like that because there's
so much going on. But I really did see something.
Let me see if I could find it where a
girl was saying that she was.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
What she saying, all right?

Speaker 9 (46:32):
You know I didn't know with a nigga and that
sound out he was a rat.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
I was pregnant by a guy that I found out
he told and I got an.

Speaker 9 (46:38):
Abortion in five months because he was a rat.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
Wow, heavy on them cowards.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Like, but what they gonna do with the baby though, Like,
I ain't want nobody to be like my baby most
his dad of reds.

Speaker 7 (46:52):
It's like I was, man, I ain't want no.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
Baby of mouse. Since we don't judge, list, I ain't
gonna hold you. I ain't mad at him, not for
what y'all think?

Speaker 5 (47:14):
What like what if you're thinking about the mental health
of that kid.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
Kids are evil, bro, Kids are bullies. Bro.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
If your fault, if his that dad was a notorious
rat around there. That kid has to go through that
all in elementary school, all through junior high school.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
It's a lot of bullying.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
If she wasn't attached to that, I ain't mat at
her for making that decision, Like, I ain't gonna put
my kid through that.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
Just leave, bro, who cares? Just leaves, leave, leave the state.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Five months months, five months is Chris.

Speaker 6 (47:48):
Five months is blinking and waving and gender and.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Five months five months is aggressive.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
Five months listen, five months you can hear that little
motherfucker iPad.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Five months they got ears, they're they're they're touching the stomach.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Nah, you know.

Speaker 6 (48:05):
Five months is crazy.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Now you say five weeks whatever your reasons is your
reasons pregnant?

Speaker 4 (48:09):
Five weeks? Five weeks?

Speaker 5 (48:11):
Nah, you don't really know until two months, right, right
about two months?

Speaker 6 (48:18):
And I love her.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
That's my dog.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
That's one of my favorite rabbers. Five months a rabbit
who's at Rocky from Philly. Five months is crazy, girl.

Speaker 6 (48:30):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
Let me see, let me see, let me see, me see.

Speaker 5 (48:35):
I did have another one that I thought was interesting
and funny or was it?

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Was it funny? Oh? Yeah, this girl?

Speaker 11 (48:46):
What do you as a woman bring to the table?
Her response, what do you as a man in the
lag that you needed a woman to provide for you?

Speaker 4 (49:01):
You know what? I feel like? Women try to shoot
that at man Ila like shit? What's wrong with that? Yeah?
What's wrong with that? I do like shit?

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Do you like shit? You all act?

Speaker 5 (49:11):
I like it as I do. I need for a partner.
There are things that I would love for you to
me with to me, I can't say that.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
As a man.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
My favorite response to that question ever, this woman said,
people came and asked what do you bring to the table,
and she said, I bring the ability to assess what
the table needs.

Speaker 6 (49:32):
So everybody's table is going to need something different.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
My my superpower is coming to the table and seeing
what it needs and bringing that.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Let's destroy the table bars, Let's destroy the table.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
There's no table there. You bring your complete self.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
I'll bring my complete self and we're gonna come together
as one.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
That's it, fucking table.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
I hate this table talk. What do you bring to
the table? What or what do you I don't care
about this table. I hate the table talk. I hate it.
I hate it. I hate it a table. I like
the table.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
The table was just a metaphor for laying your cards
out on the table. It's thinking about dinner time. What
did you cook? What did you pop up? Don't just
show up, don't just take a place to go.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
I think where you're going as positive. It's always positive.
Don't have the things to say? Yo, you know what?
This is what I do, and this is whatever I think.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
I think that people have made it into a performance
act of show me what you're giving me in this
And so when we get to that point of what
can you provide instead of just genuinely wanting to know
what I'm going to get out of this is where
the argument comes into.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
That's what I'm saying, Like, I get what did she say?

Speaker 4 (50:40):
I'm bringing two kids to the table? Guy's crazy?

Speaker 2 (50:44):
You want to know that now?

Speaker 4 (50:45):
The table?

Speaker 2 (50:46):
You want to know what I'm saying is the table conversation.
Whether it be a metaphor or not, it is super
problematic because then if a man says, Okay, what do
you bring to the table to a woman? A woman
in this in the cases that you just seen nothing,

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I bring nothing to the table.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
I bring myself. I've heard that way too many times.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
You get what I'm saying, and I just think it's
just a negative thing, Like Yo, who kids?

Speaker 4 (51:16):
Bro? Like, are you a good person? Yes? Can we
do we see things? Do we align on certain things? Yes? Cool,
let's move forward. You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
But if you're using it in yeah, metaphor right in
a positive direction, one percent, let's go all the way.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
I think that the problem, the problem with the table
comes in when we start talking about the tangibles.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
We start talking about the degrees, the cars, the.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Business, and that's what that's the that's the conversation that
is transformed into. But the table should be about the piece,
the support, the nurturing, the love, the protection, the energy,
the characteristics. That's what you bring more than what you do. Yeah,
if we're talking about it that way, like, are you
bringing logic and problem solving skills because that's the main

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thing that we love out of men.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Can you fix this? Are you bringing are decisive? Are
you decisive? Women?

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Is like, are you bringing a safe space? Are you
bringing some calm and nurturing to my energy? We that
yang and that yang.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
So I want.

Speaker 6 (52:19):
I want your problem solving skills. I want your protection.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
I want your logic when I'm being a little bit
emotional and irrational, and you want my calmness, you want
my piece, you want my voice to soothe your energy
when you're being a little bit too aggressive. I want
what I want from you. You want what you want
from me, And we got to bring these things together.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Question when you're dating, right, if you are on a
date and a man says the first date, all right,
all right, what do you bring to the table.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
You can't. You can't tell me that you can't.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
As you know, the crazy part about the question, the
crazy part about the question. This is the this is
the this is the alley loup of it, all right,
The crazy part about the question is the people with
the most to bring to the table?

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Don't ask ask that question.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Don't ask it.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
You asked me that question as.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
A man, is never asking.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Me what I bring to the table, the people with
the most to bring, not having those showing up showing
showing up?

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Well, is this a contradiction because you just told me that.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
There's nothing wrong with the table, But it has to
stay metaphorical and.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
It's not for you to ask me in a relationship.

Speaker 5 (53:25):
I think that's something that people talk about with relationships
and gender role whatever, and for me in that when
people when I see the way people answer the question,
I can see somebody who I wouldn't even want to
engage myself.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
But at the end of the day is.

Speaker 5 (53:40):
At the end of the day is are you willing
to be a partner to a person that needs a
partner or do you want to be kind of like
ruled over or some ship like that? Because I need it.
I need a partner. I need somebody just willing to say, Okay,
you're not good at this, like me help you with that,
or I've noticed this, I did it for you. You

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know what I'm saying, or acknowledge affirm me and the
things that I do for them, like partnership.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
That's some shit.

Speaker 5 (54:07):
And that's where, in your sense of the word, the
table kind of just disintegrates because we're showing up for
each other continuously. But there are people when she's talking
about tangibles, that are saying, I need a man that
makes two hundred thousand. I need to get this, and
you you're as a man, be like I need a woman.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
That don't have no kids.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
Sorry, but you understand what I'm saying, and it just
becomes too In those conversations, I can tell a person
I would never want to date, especially in the way
they're presenting because people lie on time.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Absolutely, But that's what that's the main point.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Yeah, it's relevant in the space of dating good people,
good people who are not having that conversation exactly.

Speaker 6 (54:44):
And I think that if.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
We focus on our own table, like you say, I'm
coming as myself, you're coming as yourself.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Fuck the table.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
I always think about what I'm going to bring into
a relationship, and then when I think about.

Speaker 6 (54:54):
What I need, I look at what you have and
see if you have what I need.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
But I've never had to act because people can perform
I could, I could.

Speaker 5 (55:03):
Lie representatives that first two three day representative what you're
looking for early?

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Okay, write that down for sure.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
Man, y'all look good at this. Yes, you gotta needing
to that. Yeah, you can't just keep telling me you day,
let's talk about what yesterday.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
Wants to talk about. Got them Jordan's on, man, Drake.

Speaker 5 (55:28):
Lost that lawsuit. It is not like us now the
biggest and greatest this song of all time?

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Mm hmm. I think it's the biggest. I'm not sure
if it's the greatest. I don't know, man, I'm say no,
I'm gonna say no. I'm gonna say no. I'm say
I think it's the biggest. I do think it's the
biggest this record of all time.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Are also disagree with that too, because when we talk
about the level at which things blow up in this generation,
we have to look at the factors of this generation
that allow things to blow up. The phones, like the phones,
like the social media, like the tiktoks did what it
did with not a cell phone, not as smart from
radio radio, and so this day, twenty twenty five, it's

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still doing numbers on TikTok hit them up trend.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
And Biggie been gone for.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Longer than some people have been alive, and that song
is still trending on TikTok.

Speaker 6 (56:33):
Imagine thirty I.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Imagine if there was a TikTok of a social media
a radio station and Hit Them Up would have came out.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Now, super Bowls wouldn't have stood, Hockey wouldn't have stood
a chance.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
You got to compare the level of how things explode
with the means of the time. The fact that hit
them Up is still culturally roughant in twenty twenty five,
and these people have been deceased.

Speaker 10 (57:03):
Yeah, crazy, you want to tell Kira J what I
told you exactly?

Speaker 4 (57:09):
I'm sure you don't care. J.

Speaker 10 (57:11):
When we had this, when you asked me this the
other day, I said to him the same exact thing.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
Hit him Up. Okay, Yeah, we had the conversation.

Speaker 10 (57:19):
Hit him Up, I said, bro, hit him Up is
still like hit him Up is still getting played today.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
And that's something to me.

Speaker 10 (57:25):
The greatest sustainability has to come into it. We can't
say a year removed from something something is the greatest
when something that stood twenty twenty years.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
That's why I said it's not the greatest like I
don't even like I like not like us. I like it,
but like when it come on, I'm not gonna lie
I hit skip because we annoyed by it now right
by now it's just like it's annoying. It's like annoying
hit him up though, the same thing how we felt
back then too.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
I was there.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
I'm twenty years old when that came out.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
Right, when that came out, well, Brooklyn hated it.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
So I'm oh, yeah, I mean, as a New York
I shouldn't love it as much as I do.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
But it's so big, so different.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
That's just a Brooklyn pride. That's a disc bro right,
I'm good.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
There's a Brooklyn pride and then there's a New York pride.
Those are two different things. And so there are people
all over the city who loved hit them up.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
It wasn't from Brooklyn.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
The Brooklyn is.

Speaker 5 (58:24):
We didn't fuck with none of that. You understd what
I'm saying. Would I am I able to acknowledge hit
him up? Ether ship like that? I can acknowledge it
because I'm not that. I'm not a stand to that
point where it's like I'm just delusional. But I also
don't like that, y'all are discounting, and this is what
y'all doing. Don't tell me you're not. That's what you're doing.

(58:46):
You're discounting what not Like this is done in comparison
to another song because of the times, the times, So.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
Y'am not making an even scale. And by the way,
I am a Drake fan.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Okay, I'm a huge Drake fan. I'm a huge Kendrick
fan too. Is a poet.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
I'm also a Drake. I'm Kendrick Koler.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
But here's the thing though, It's like when I don't
like when artists of today flex their numbers and not
their means. Because there was a long time remember that
whole Nicki minaj era where she was going.

Speaker 6 (59:17):
I broke a reat this record.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
I broke a reata record baby.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Off of streaming a wreath that had people lined up
to go by vinyls physical. If we are now at
the times where things are different and it's much easier
to just click a button and listen to somebody, I
think the conversations have to get separated from what was
done back then to what was done now. That's why
I like Kevin Hart so much. Right when people say
Kevin Hart is the biggest comedian. Kevin always says, I'm

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the biggest comedian of this generation because what Eddie Murphy
did in the eighties, even I could do a stadium today,
Eddie Murphy did that with no smartphone or this and that.
So I don't think that we could say of all
time in the night like us conversation, it just has
to be of this generation because we can't compare what
this generation is doing with all of the means to

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what was done back then with none of it. That's
not discounting it like us as the biggest of this generation.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
It's the biggest ever. I think it's the biggest ever.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
But because how you're going to you can't discount it
just because there's the more means now can't the biggest ever.
There's always gonna be like increments or a like Okay,
this was big then, but now that big to now.
And I just at the end of the day, the
twenty dollars bill today isn't what it was before.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
It just isn't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
I just I just like the conversation of generational success,
and I think that keeps it more honest, because if
we being honest, a lot of the success that a
lot of artistsy is because of the accessibility tool things
going viral. Viral did not exist thirty years ago. So
that's not this this discredit and what it's doing. I

(01:00:54):
just saying, put in this generation of it, so you
can acknowledge that's like Michael Jackson, we could say of
all time because he's still doing what the fuck he's doing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
But Taylor Swift is of this generation. You see what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
You can't compare the two because generationally speaking, it's just
completely different times.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
Yes, no, I agree, like I said, I do. I
do think that.

Speaker 10 (01:01:17):
Like I said, it's very tricky when you get to
the I think biggest and greatest, we're using kind of
the wrong way, Like the biggest implies metrics, numbers, greatest implies.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Impact, impact, feel that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
So that's why.

Speaker 10 (01:01:32):
So to your point, it's not like us the biggest
as far as streaming, accolades, the replacements and all of that. Yeah,
for sure, that's the greatest, not the greatest, because also
to by great like obviously the hit him up shit,
you know, they both passed away, so that maybe that
kind of cancels out. But the greatness of the dish tract.

(01:01:53):
It has to be somewhat effective, right, And if we're
talking about just what we think of somebody personally, that
doesn't really matter if the person is still at the time,
if the person is.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Still where they were or musically statistically, it has to work.
It can't just be like, yo, he's just still there.
Tried to move him, but he's still there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
But that's the point. Then I disagree.

Speaker 6 (01:02:18):
If the point is did you disract destroy ship?

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
Did it work? Did it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Did it didn't work? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
That worked? It worked? Though it worked?

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
Yeah, disagree because I feel like you stand out with
that when you don't acknowledge the damage to Drake's rep.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
You don't acknowledge it. You're like, what do you mean?
He's still sold?

Speaker 11 (01:02:40):
Bro?

Speaker 6 (01:02:43):
And I'm a huge Drake fan. I haven't always, but
that should worked well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
I've I've dated someone fairly recently that enjoyed Drake, but
that Kendrick Drake situation where she chose a side and
now when Drake comes on, not now, because but Drake.

Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
When Drake used to come on, she was like he corny.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Corny's opinion, Like you was just listening to that man
two months ago.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
The one thing I will say, the genius of this
dish track in particular hit him up, was on some
East coast West coast shit, Uh, what's the drake meek
Mail disk?

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Back to back was on some fuck.

Speaker 6 (01:03:22):
Meek Mail ship. He didn't say, fun Philly, it was
meek Mail.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
The genius that Kendrick did, even calling the ship not
like Us was uniting all of black people against foreign
mixed influences.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
They not like us.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
So it was a clear line in the sin the
Baker go cultural cultural reset.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
It wasn't. It wasn't. That's what I say.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
That RepA just what I say.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Yeah, if we're talking about this conversation on dish tracks,
but that was like a cultural conversation.

Speaker 6 (01:03:52):
I feel like when we talk about not like Us,
we got to talk.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
About the different areas, you know, like the the rap
beef side of it versus the cultural pride of it all,
cultural proud of it all. I don't think you could
put it in no conversations. That's right up there with
a brown skinned girl and who run the world for women?

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Who Beyonce?

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Yeah, it's one of them things that is just like,
oh this is yeah, because it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
Also, it also othered Drake because with the Biggie and
Tupac Beef, these are two black men East Coast, West Coast,
whatever you want to call it, you can't really pick
a side because we own niggas. Drake othered, I mean,
Kendrick othered Drake in this conversation to say he ain't
like us, he ain't from where we're from, he ain't
been through what we've been through. He made it a

(01:04:40):
Black American cultural experience to the point where when you
watch podcasters from London have conversations and was like, I'm
watching the super Bowl, I didn't want to hear that.

Speaker 6 (01:04:49):
I want to hear this, and I was like, they're
not like us. This was some Black American ship right here.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
You don't get it. You don't understand what was going
on in that. So yeah, culturally speaking, there was absolutely
no and we did.

Speaker 5 (01:05:01):
Whatever Grammys and all types of ship like it was.
This was a moment in time I've never seen. I've
been here since the beginning. I was a teenager at
the beginning of hipp but I've never seen anything.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
If we're putting it in a conversation, then absolutely, I'll
take the change of opinion to absolutely say, absolutely right
on that level of it all.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
But that's why I agree with yesterday, Like the difference
between greatest and biggest.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
It's definitely the biggest, no question.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
I don't care nobody talking about the greatest though, Like
if we're just talking about in terms of like lyrical
ability and really like hitting your opponent.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Nah, brother, no, it's not. It's not greatest. It might
not even be top three. We're gonna we're going to shoot.
I'm gonna choose disagreement. That's fine debated because I just
feel like it was like so.

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
Many moments in the song and then amazing song, the
cultural impact, cultural soaking.

Speaker 4 (01:05:59):
So I'm glad you have much to say. I see
your legs twitching over there. Though good.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
This was an amazing episode. I had so much more.
But I'm gonna invite you guys back. Please let me
know when you come back in town. Sure, what's your
schedule look like for people? This comes out this week?
So let's say this comes out Tuesday. Okay, where can
people find you? How can people support you?

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
What do you need from us?

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
I'm chilling for the rest of this month, but in
November I'll be back on the eighth, I believe for
Tonight's Conversations, and then I got Atlanta on the twenty second,
and then I got Memphis, and then I got Phoenix,
Arizona or Arizona.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
And Meshis is that over Tonight's conversation?

Speaker 6 (01:06:37):
No, No, no poetry shows.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
Phoenix and Memphis is my poetry shows, my one woman
shows that I've been traveling with the art of poetry.
And yeah, the top of next year, I'll be going
on a tour called Never Been Here and I Never
Been Here tour is highlighting cities that I have never
visited because I typically, you know, you do the Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
La Atlanta, Detroit, whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
I'm going to be going to Nashville, Tennessee. I'm going
to be going to Little Rock, Arkansas. I'm going to
be going to Boise, Idaho. I'm going to be going
to all of these areas that people don't tap in
with because we everywhere and I want to make sure
that I'm showing all of those regions love.

Speaker 6 (01:07:13):
So it Never Been Here to it will be at
the top of twenty twenty six.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
Are you also going to do vinyls for the album?
I would love to hear the vinyls.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Oh for sure, for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
I'm going to do a live album as well, Manifested
its the live album.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
Come on y'all, tiny desk under the comments. Yes when
we collab these at tiny desk Yes. Yo.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
Also, if you know we post a shit on your grind,
like just the little things, y'all, little things, put it
under your pick under your pictures.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
Use her ship because grammy consideration is a thing. Man.
She needs our support.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Yes, like woman, this is the last week of voting.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
Brown and she comes from us.

Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
Bro this is and she's pouring back into us and
saying talking about going to tap into these differ and
places there that normally people don't do because it doesn't
really suit their demographic, Like oh, you know, people do
their analytics and they say, okay, you're big in Atlanta,
you're big in Houston, you're big here, you're beginning. That's
where they go they tour. She's like, funk a lot.
I'm going to create my basis all this plays amongst

(01:08:14):
black people.

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
Yo. She deserves our motherfucking support. Let's go. I have
no idea. What I'm doing is the album For those
of y'all who don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Oh, the at names, the at names oh on Instagram,
all Things Carriage on every other platform. I am cama
J A I A m K, I R A J.
The I am care J page on Instagram is all
my memes and my tweets and my thoughts, because that's
how a lot of people know me. And then All
Things Carriage is where you can find all my interviews,
my poetry and good shit talking.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
She yo, this one, you know amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:08:49):
She paints a picture bro even in the tweets, nigga
because the tweets is like five sixwets go viral seven
at a time, right. She tells the story with the
tweets like you ever sit around you just wanted like
why do I even?

Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
And chicken like that one, and then the next way
she scrolled the next one pop up story.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Let's do group therapy. Let's do group therapy.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
I love you back.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
It's a mutual feeling. We've been we've been locked in
for mad years. A lot of people don't know that this.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Is my dog here. Anytime I come to the city.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
You know you guys me, let's go, let's go. I
want you, gotta get you. We gotta go to his bar.

Speaker 6 (01:09:29):
Okay, j I'm sober these days, but I love a
good motail.

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
Make the best my tail. Let's do it. And the
food there is amazing, the vibe is amazing. You gotta
set the tone. I'm saying, yes, shout out.

Speaker 6 (01:09:42):
I'll come to a poetry show there next time I come.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
You know what, that'll be dope because my my own
the owner is a black woman. She loves things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
I probably it takes me a little long to organize
my tours because I specifically use black owned venues.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
So that's you know, that's the thing.

Speaker 6 (01:09:59):
I I got to make sure I'm bringing the business
back to us, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
And they got the balcony up there to yeah, the
whole roomtop.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Let's do it. My next New York show will be
right in your spot.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
There we go. I love that. Let's do that. I'm
gonna telling today.

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
Actually I'm telling I'm telling dead ass, I think so,
j D, Where can people find you?

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
J D The opinionated on Instagram and added Living Black
on Instagram as well, and Living Black make sure you
go check that podcast out as well.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
You know what is it Living Black about? For the
people that didn't hear attention.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
You know, and Living Black is just a podcast. Uh,
stop saying that what it's just, it's not just. It's
not just a podcast. It's it's a it's a place
where black people could come and and and be themselves
and showcase that we're not a modelers.

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
Yeah. I love that, you know, everybody is different.

Speaker 5 (01:10:57):
I love going on his show. A lot of times
you go on people's shows, it's kind of the same shit.
It's like, okay, relationship is that he talks about the
black experience. That feels good. That's a good subject. Make
it up speaking from your experience, like, oh shit, yeah,

(01:11:18):
I can relate to that based on SO And I
love that that's what it's called. And it's intentionally that
those are the topics that you talk about on there.
So if anybody that's listening to So Shameless right now
or Harder Soft, you got the nut Navy in the
house as well, please go over and give and Live
in Black a chance.

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Can I give you a y'r flowers before we exit out?

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Though I've been in a lot of spaces as a
black woman in the podcast world, in the public speaking world,
it is not always a safe space to.

Speaker 6 (01:11:43):
Be the woman that is on the room with only men.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
There are only men in here, and I would just
like to say thank y'all for I'm always I know,
I'm always safe to come. That's not the norm because
a lot of these spaces that are created that are popularized,
it's not safe for us to go in, specifically not
by ourself. I'm always know that I'm good if I
come by myself, if you're here, and you've never brought
me around a man that I didn't feel safe with.

Speaker 6 (01:12:08):
Every man that you've introduced me to over the years.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Is just as safe as you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
And I just want to acknowledge that and appreciate that,
because if you see what's happening, it's not it's not
safe for us, and I just always feels my guard
is always down and I could I just want to
appreciate y'all might not acknowledge that, but we talked about
that on episodes like y'all don't know how unsafe it
is for us a lot of the times, but it's
just always it's just always love and I appreciate that.

(01:12:33):
Thank y'all for being safe.

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
Thank you though, yo, come on now, Yeah, Dode. What
you got to say, what you got to say?

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Why you ken't messing with my girl?

Speaker 4 (01:12:45):
I missed you since and I can't wait to see
you next week. Oh. I got an episode for y'all
next week, y'all. Ooh, it's so shameless. Damn, that was
fucking good y'all Live that

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
We was yapping for hours and it didn't even feel
like what I'm saying, so

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