Talkin’ Cowboys: Happy New Year

Kyle Youmans, Patrik Walker, Isaiah Stanback & Josh Rodriguez preview Cowboys vs Commanders in the final game of the regular season, share which depth players need the most reps, Isaiah’s QB Vision, and discuss the Cowboys’ Pro Bowl selections.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Cowboys.

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This He's Talking Cowboys Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys
World headquarters at.

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The Star in Frisco.

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Seclet's dot T touchdown.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez
and Kyle Yeomans.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
It's a terrific Thursday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by
Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco.

Speaker 6 (00:49):
Texas in the s WBC studios.

Speaker 5 (00:52):
Today we preview the final matchup of the Cowboys twenty
twenty four season. They welcome in the Washington Commanders, a
familiar face looking for a bit of revenge and Dan
Quinn and company. We're gonna talk about it with Patrick no,
Cy Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand Back, Chris Beam in
the back of Kyle Yeoman's full casting crew ready for
you to rock this Thursday.

Speaker 6 (01:13):
Happy New Year everyone, especially five.

Speaker 7 (01:17):
Happy New Year fellas it is.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Have you messed up?

Speaker 5 (01:22):
Have you messed up by writing the wrong date or
typing the wrong date?

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah? I don't really write checks anymore. Oh wow, you've
got people to do that for you.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
No, I just call No, it's just just move hit
this button, take the money out.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, just moved on. How it goes now. No, you
guys will be proud of me.

Speaker 7 (01:40):
First thing I did website changed to twenty twenty five. Hey,
that was like at twelve o'clock. I was like, I
have nothing better to do.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Change the website dates ceremonious.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
Yeah that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
I thought you were doing with some watch and K
terror type thing like.

Speaker 8 (01:56):
I was just like, I got nothing better to do.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, I might as well just flip it to no
one invited me to. Poor Josh. After you did that,
did you like jump up in freezing midair?

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, yeah, we did it.

Speaker 8 (02:13):
Got nothing better to do it than work.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Oh man.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Now, hope everybody had a safe, happy holiday, have some
happy New Year and a great start to the new year.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
That's the thing, is it.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
New Year's resolutions are always I think for the most part,
they're kind of cliche. But you can still change your
your mindset on things, and there's no better way to
do that than to have a starting point, having a
January first. I don't think a lot of times new
Year's resolutions can get a little silly if you don't
take it seriously. But if you take it seriously and

(02:47):
you really want to take a resolution and run with it,
I'm all for it.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
I think it's great.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
So my resolution is to be better at communication. I'm
bad at that, so I'm gonna try and be better
at community, especially since the babies came.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Communications rough. I'm not around my phone as much.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
I was going to say so, considering what you do
for a living, the communicating communication, right, being a bit
of a downside, not downside, but opportunity for improvement, kind
of an oxymoron.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Yeah, yeah, Actually it's mostly communication with others and family.

Speaker 8 (03:24):
It is kind of yeah, being the one to reach.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Out man, you and not communicate very well, done right,
very well, You're done right.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
Yeah, big day for you dogs play to night.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah, but yeah, I'd be remiss if I first didn't,
you know, offer my prayers and condolences to New Orleans
and you know, the families for those who relatives of
the lives lost in that terror attack on yesterday. So
I mean, yeah, we will get to the football here today,
and I'm excited to get to the football. But I
know there are a lot of fans of both sides,

(03:54):
the Irish and the Dogs, who were as I was
reading on Twitter, upset that the game was moved. I
had no issue with it whatsoever. Let's just not be insensitive.
Life is bigger than football. We will get to the
football when it's time to get to the football. So yeah,
so today three o'clock Central Town. You know, we get
it all.

Speaker 8 (04:13):
Are you doing media mash at three o'clock?

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Absolutely not, Chris, Oh you're not. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (04:18):
Eatman said that you were going to do that.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Wait, fire me.

Speaker 6 (04:23):
For this one.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
For this one shows it's not happening, but it's not happening.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Taking it serious.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
Here's the thing is, if Nick Eatman was put in
the same exact scenario and it was the Arkansas Razorbacks
that were in the college football playoffs, finally you would
say the same thing. It'd be like, no, yeah, so
I completely get it all. Right, Let's get into some
news and notes. Cowboys had some Pro Bowl nods today.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
We did have some information coming over from five Cowboys
who not only are getting Pro Bowl nots, but are
returning to the Pro Bowl, Cavante Turpin and Brandon Aubrey.
The XFL experiments gone wonderfully successfully. They both are returning
to the Pro Bowl for the second year in a row,

(05:08):
which is fantastic for them because they've only been in
the league for two years. For Brandon Aubrey, that makes
him the first kicker in Cowboys franchise history to ever
go to back to back Pro Bowls, and that is
actually mind blowing when you consider some of the names
some of the right foots that have kind of walked
through here, Dan Bailey being the most recent legend that
walked through. So shouts out to those guys. Michael Parsons,

(05:30):
he gets another Pro Bowl nod. Ceedee Lamb. You talk
about someone who could not deserve it more. Ceedee Lamb
and what he went through and put on the field
and put on tape and put in the locker room
leadership wise for the Cowboys with one bad armed shoulder
barely attached to his body. Shouts out to him and
Tyler Smith, the lowe offensive lineman for the Cowboys, who
got another nod. But Tyler Smith, he was a manchild

(05:54):
again this year. He was the stabilizing force when you
talk about the flux due to injury at left tackle,
the Zach Marer in situation at right guard. Is it
brock Hoffman, is it TJ? Bass t? Terrence Steele had
a rough start before he finally kind of got going.
It was Tyler Smith who was basically handling his business
for the majority of the game and if nearly of
the season, And if you don't believe me, go ask

(06:14):
Vida Vea if Tyler Smith should be a pro bowler.
So Turping Aubrey take that year, that Turping Aubrey parts.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I did that on purpose, Lavin Smith.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
All Pro bowlers, all deserving and will likely see some
alternates as well as injuries and guys kind of pull
out pause because they're in the playoffs and things like that.
So that is one of the headlines we'll kind of
go down before we finished with the explosive one. Cowboys
signed three on yesterday. They signed Luke Barkoo, who is

(06:52):
a cornerback. Household name, household name. He went to school
at Well. He was undrafted in twenty twenty of the
Jacksonville Jaguars. But if you know anything about that particular
draft of bark who was one of the names that
had a lot of interest coming out. Offensive guard Jack Anderson,
Plaino native went to you know, high school out here
in Frisco, so he's a homecoming for him. And then

(07:15):
Ernest Brown, which is a defensive end. He won a
Super Bowl with the Los Angeles Rams, so he does
bring some experience here. Former what is it, fifth round
pick of the Los Angeles Rams before getting a trophy
in a ring with them, Aubrey, Texas native. All right,
and he went to school out in Ditton, your neck
of the Woods's care. So we got two homecomings for

(07:36):
the Cowboys, got a cornerback, of defensive end and offensive guard.
And for anyone wondering, you know why sign these guys now? Well,
as the season is about to in effective next week,
futures deals can be secured by the Cowboys. So these
are guys who are going to get a shot this
offseason to try to stick with the roster. Now what
head coach will they be playing for, We don't know.

(07:57):
What are the assistant coaches? We don't know, But that's
Those are storylines that will wrap themselves up hopefully in
the next several weeks or so, and now several days
hopefully hopefully. And now for the bombshell, Ezekiel Elliott. This
happened on New Year's Eve, so I will say Happy
New Year's because it was his request. So Ezekiel Elliott

(08:17):
requested to be released on New Year's Eve and the
Cowboys honored it. So for the second time, and I
love numerology, for the second time in exactly twenty one months,
the Cowboys and Elliott. Yeah, Cowboys and Ezekiel Elliott are
parting ways.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
He cleared waivers yesterday, so he is free to sign with.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Any team that will have him going into the playoffs.
So if there's a playoff team that needs a running
back for whatever reason injury depth, Ezekiel Elliott is now
on the market. Now what does that mean for evaluation
purposes for Washington Commanders? Do we see a lot more deuce?
Do we see Hunter lip keep get back in the mix?

(08:56):
Do we see an elevation from Alik Davis to kind
of get him some burn because he's had any burn
it all this season? Just makes it a little bit
more interesting. But yeah, So, former two time NFL rushing champion,
one of the most productive Cowboys running backs in history,
for the second time in less than two calendar years,
is back on the fruit market.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Stand back, He's making faces, he has.

Speaker 6 (09:18):
He said one word this entire show.

Speaker 7 (09:20):
Fair enough, But I gotta ask, if you're a playoff team,
you're kicking the tires on them.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
I think it really depends on the type of team
that you are and what is it that you're looking for.
What role are you looking for him to feel? Are
you looking for somebody to come in and be a
good blocking back? Then I think that's the guy that
you go with. He does a good job past you
are fighting. It's not Friday, say for tomorrow is our

(09:48):
last Friday of the year.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
I gotta you know, I gotta build up for it.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
Yeah, I think, I mean, it really depends on the
team needs. I personally can't foresee a team needing his services.
As I look at the look forward into the outlook
of these teams that are a playoff bound, I think
of one team that may be interested.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Who is that?

Speaker 9 (10:10):
Can we talk about?

Speaker 4 (10:11):
There's one that comes to I mean, he's a free agent,
so yeah, I mean the only playoff team that I
could potentially foresee would be a Detroit.

Speaker 8 (10:20):
That's exactly what Montgomery.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yeah, but he's almost back to the world. I mean,
from what I'm hearing, he's working towards it. So I mean,
what insurance possibly, I mean it's possibly. I mean it's
it's it's a depth move.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
Yeah, so I would end up being anyways, but in
times he's going to take an RB one.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
Spot in all of these But I mean, I don't
see a team in need of the running contributions from
the running.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Back picking up Ezekiel Elliot. I don't foresee that.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
I could only see it as a practice squad insurance signing. Yeah,
he's I don't see him taking anyone's active spot. He
wants a ring before he retires. Yeah, that's that's what
this is about. Do you very clearly here, here's here's
a conversation. I'm interested in you guys thought process because
it popped in my head. How far or phrase it

(11:08):
this way? How close are we to Ezekiel Elliott call
it in a career.

Speaker 10 (11:11):
This year that I think this is this is why
he's asking to be released.

Speaker 6 (11:16):
It's either this.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
Year or next year. There's there's only two, and I
think it's probably this year.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
It's the only the only justification that I have for
him wanting to be released. He's like, Okay, this season
is done. I necessarily haven't been that welcomed here.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
It might stay.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Hasn't been great, right, I've caused some some issues while
being here last week in the season. Go ahead and
cut me so I can go bandwagon it and get
a ring and call my.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Career a rap.

Speaker 10 (11:42):
That's that's what my thought process is with this.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
I can't I'm not going to put that on him,
but I'm that's what I'm perceiving.

Speaker 7 (11:49):
Outside of past blocking, though, do you see him contributing
in an of the other fashion outside.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Of that's it. That's what I mean.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
It's a supermergency. It's a break glass emergency running back.
I mean, but I'd imagine that most of these teams
have a running back on their roster on the practice
squad already that they probably feel good about.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
But if they don't, then you have a veteran.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Who knows, you know, all the defenses, he knows how
to protect.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
I mean, that's what I'm saying. That's the value. I
don't see him. He hasn't done.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Anything here this year to prove his running ability as
valuable for another team that or that's playoff bound.

Speaker 7 (12:23):
No, really doesn't have that burst anymore. It looks worse
than he did in New England last year, which I
thought was going to be a sticking point this year
was like, okay, well let's bring that, Let's bring a
receiving type Zeke into the fold, and it just didn't.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
No.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
I was curious because Detroit was who popped in my
head first with a Montgomery injury. And yeah, like I said,
practice squad insurance. But I think the same would be
said for Skip Pete. And so if Tampa gets into
the playoffs, I just looked at their practice squad situation.
The only running back they have on their practice squad
is DJ Williams, and I don't think DJ williams presence there.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Will be enough for Skip Pete.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
With the familiarity he has with Ezekiel a l to
four Golds, I think that's the reason why he wouldn't
sign him.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
Think so, I don't know if they were particularly close. Yeah,
like during his time here a lot of times and
in the conversations would Skip Pete back. Whenever he was
in Dallas. He wanted to get Tony Pollard more involved,
and there was more of a there was more of
a forced hand at Ezekiel Elliott than there may have
been for Tony Pollard at that time.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
So I don't know if.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
It if it fractured their relationship, but I don't know
if they were.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Necessarily like Buds, I would think that his familiarity would
work against him in that regard.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
And so you're saying what he's saying.

Speaker 7 (13:36):
Yeah, all that being said, there's nobody else more on
his side than Jerry Jones. What Jerry Jones said about
Zeke obviously has a lot of respect for him, with
a lot of love for the player that he is
and what he can provide to a team leadership wise.
But obviously you know they're doing it because you know,
even McCarthy said, like, he deserves it. If he's requesting this,
he deserves to get what he wants in that regard.

(13:57):
So it was interesting to see a Jerry Jones statement
out of that because you know that a player that
didn't necessarily impact your team statistically throughout the entire season
to get a statement from Jerry Jones, the owner, and
it says a lot about his character.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
And also not to mention I put this on Twitter
when the news broke, but the fact that Zeke came
back in the first place, the fact that he returned
to Dallas took a different number, took a second role completely,
at least from the outside looking in, was okay being
that second back because it seemed like that was the
case from the get go. I know there was kind

(14:35):
of a back and forth between him and Dowdell early on,
but very much so that changed into Dowbdele. The fact
that he came back and showed it shows how much
he did enjoy being here and the guys that are
around him. Of course, you know the relationship that he
has with Dak, the relationship he has with.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Some of those other guys in the locker room.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
So I will always appreciate Ezekiel. And we did the
whole Goodbye Zeke the first time that he was released
twenty one months ago, so I don't think it's as
ceremonious now, but it doesn't change what he did for
this organization. I heard somebody on the radio the other day.
I'm not going to say which station. Somebody on the
radio the other day was like, man, what did he

(15:13):
even do? What was his most memorable time with the Cowboys?
I was like, you obviously did not watch Prime Zeke.
I was like, tell me you didn't watch Prime ze
without watching Prime Z, which he was a two time
reising leader. He was one of the more elusive and
incredible and explosive backs in all of football, and even
up until the end of his first tenure with the Cowboys,
he was one of the best past protection backs, one

(15:33):
of the best red zone backs. He did a lot
of things for this organization, including seventy one touchdowns.

Speaker 7 (15:38):
Worth which led to him sort of breaking down physically,
yes towards the end of it.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
And his frustrations this year.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Notwithstanding, over the course of being one of the more
dynamic beacks in not only the history of the franchise
but in the history of the NFL, he was also
mentoring guys like Tony polit and Rico daudle, getting them
up to the point of performance that you're seeing right
now from Tony polit in recodoubt so Ezekiel Elliott has
his fingerprints all over the success of Rico o'dowdle this season.
Not to take away from Rico's work, but if you

(16:07):
go back when we were having these conversations two three
years ago with ric o'dowdo asking him about the mentorship
of Tony and Zeke, he gave all these reasons, all
these things that he was kind of absorbing from Ezekiel
Elliott to become a dynamic back in the NFL. So
when you talk about influence in the locker room production
on the field, the highlight reel right the fact that

(16:29):
he kind of reset the whole running back market when
the Cowboys took him and he showed that he was
more than worth it. That's why you didn't see a
sa Kwon Barkley get a high pick. So that had ramifications. So, yeah,
let's admit two things can be true. Wildly unproductive reunion
with the Cowboys in twenty twenty four, but don't let

(16:49):
that draw strike through from what he actually meant. He
is a ring of honor candidate in my eyes, So
let's not dismiss Kennedy did candidate, not a lot, not
a shoe in, not a lock. But that's that's definitely
a rightful conversation.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
He was a very, very productive, very good back during
his time in Dallas. Don't forget that just because of
the last couple of years.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
I do believe that he will.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
I don't believe that he makes that request without knowing
that he's going to get picked up.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
That's kind of what and the fact that he came
from his agent to makes me think there's something out there.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
They Hey, if you guys get releaved, we'll pick you up.
That's how I would foresee that going.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
Also, not to mention it gives him the option. He
doesn't have to sign right now. He can sign whenever
he wants because he's an unrestricted free agent.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
So there will be another reunion. It'll be the one
day contract thing, is.

Speaker 8 (17:40):
What when he finally decides.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Yeah, when he decided to retire, and he'll get a
one day contract thing and the whole press conference because
he didn't get to the Jason Witten treatment first time around,
so I think they'll give him the Jason Jason Windrey.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
All right, when we come back, it's time to dive
into a little bit of q B vision. We're going
to preview the matchup with the Washington commander's taking a
look at what dan Quinn's bringing from the defensive side
of the ball, and then after that we'll flip to
the offense. See what the Cowboys offense or excuse me,
see what the with the Tampa or the Washington offense.

Speaker 6 (18:11):
Goodness gracious, we're talking about all.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
These different teams what the Washington offense is bringing with
the rope Jaded Daniels.

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had playoff talk around here. Yeah, three straight years. You
want to talk about getting boiled?

Speaker 13 (22:55):
Yeah, talking about somebody's yelling what's going on on the
okay Beamer, I mean that he let me know something
going on.

Speaker 6 (23:07):
And tennis are up all the way in a box.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
The last case of glass I got you. Thank you, brother,
appreciate you. We know this defense too well.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Right, It's it's not a whole lot to add to
what we've done recently. This is a team that you
beat last time that you faced them. They only you
only gave up one sack and it was against one
of the Bama boys because the other Bama boy was gone.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
You guys know who I'm talking about. Pain. Yeah, mister
mister Paine, uh majia, my name is waiting for pain.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
Yeah, so one of the Bama Boys was gone, but
that was the last time that you faced them.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Correct, Duran Payne had a sack cool.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
We talked about the potential of the Bama Boys coming
back together, right, the bands back together again.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Do you guys know when that occurred? When they started
to winning again. You're just happened.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
These guys are back. The Bama Boys are back. So
you're your worries that you have on the defensive front
are back. Unless unless dan Quinn is gonna be plan
on sitting his guys.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
We don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
We don't know that, but let's just let's just act
as if these guys are gonna be there. You this
is arguably the nastiest interior combo defensive line that you're
gonna face in terms, I mean, we've this has been
a conversation. We've seeing individuals individuals, but I'm talking about
bass brothers. We're talking about Doron Payne and Jonathan Allen.

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Jonathan Allen is back.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
He is back.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
These guys are making nasty and when you throw in
what Dante Fowler Junior is doing, you're throwing what Doris
Armstrong is doing.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
It's a problem.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
Well, this looks like what Dan Quinn wanted to be
exactly when he was signing those guys from Dallas and saying, Okay,
I've already got the two guys on the INDs. I've
already got the Bama Boys down wall. I need the
guys on the edge. I need Dorin's Armstrong, need Dante
Fowler Junior.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
You need to put somebody behind those guys.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
It's some linebacker help. They'll get there, may make a
train like maybe like a lot of more time. You're
talking about in the.

Speaker 6 (25:09):
Secondary, im talk about linebacker.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
You're gonna if you're gonna have two really good interior
defensive linemen, yeah, you want to put a really good
defensive and bookings.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Off around them, which they've done. Got it.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
These guys have been productive. From George Armstrong, Dante Faller
juniorr Dallas Cowboys from last year have been very productive.
Maybe a future Hall of famer, maybe a future Hall
of Famer at linebacker that's just.

Speaker 7 (25:27):
Been consistent for forty five.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
We had like one hundred and fifty tackles like each
of the last twelves or something like that, like.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Crazy, and then next to him, just put somebody with
the name, we're here. Yeah. Anyways, these guys, we know
what we know. Their front seven is nice. Okay, the
front seven is nice. I haven't seen Marshawn Lattimore touch
the field still, he's on there.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
He's out there. Yeah, he played last week.

Speaker 8 (25:59):
I don't know if it will be there this week.

Speaker 11 (26:00):
He was there last week and got injured, so he's
on the sidelines again there.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, so that's yeah, that's it. Yeah, So not much
going on.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
We know what they do in terms of the secondary
coverage wise, these guys are gonna go and they're gonna
pray press man. They're gonna play a little bit of
Cover three mixed in there. They're eighty eighty percent of
the time, they're gonna be single high.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
You're not gonna get anything crazy.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
The guy's up front kind of like what happened here,
exactly what happened here here. But yeah, this but the
defensive line allows for them to do whatever the heck
they want to. And you have to deal with Jeremy
Chin sitting in a dog on box, right, so he's
gonna They're gonna take away the run game by having
an eight man box. If you want to try to
get them out of the past. You're gonna have to
be able to throw yourself out of Manda Man coverage

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and you have no CD Lamb and your number one
receivers Brandon cooks with Yeah he I don't know. So
Cook had about one hundred and seventy seven attempts in
the first two drives. Yeah, so he had a bunch
of attempts last week and the first two drives they
were trying to force them the narrative there, but somebody
has to step up and never.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Seen me game.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
You have to step up. But you're gonna have to
do a versus Manda Man. So you're not gonna have
the ability to sit back and be comfortable in the pocket.
If these guys play, if you're depending on regardless of
who our quarterback is going to be this week, they're
gonna have to get the ball out on time and
they have to be precise what they're passing because the
coverage is gonna be sticky. We haven't seen our receivers
show the ability to get off a sticky coverage outside

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of Ceed Lamb this year.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
That's the facts. That's not an indictment on them, It's
just is what it is.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
Well, that was the conversation when Dak was playing quarterback,
zero separation outside.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Of a guy wearing number eighty eight, and there.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
Was tight windows to throw the football into. This late
leading the turnovers and bad completion percentage and all sorts
of things.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
That's that has changed. It's gotten better to a certain extent.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
But I'm not gonna jump out of the cake and say, hey,
here's here's look at all these wide receivers that we
love so much.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah, no, don't do that. Don't no butt nicka today,
not today.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
So yeah, in regards to just the report, I mean
that's they're gonna do what we know that they're going
to do. And I don't foresee them doing a lot
of blitzing cause I don't think that they need to.
I think that their front four is strong enough and
nasty enough to get there. I think that if those
gentlemen play Dante Fowler Junior and Durrance Armstrong didn't get
sacks last time they played, they're going to want to
get that. I truly think they're gonna want to get

(28:17):
that regardless of what the qbdia. So I think those
guys are going to be highly motivated and I think
the Bama boys are going to look to get going
as they work into the playoffs if they play again.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
This is if they play a thing.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
I can't foresee DQ keeping those guys out because I
think that he wants them to have momentum going into
the playoffs. But I think that they probably will be
on a pitch count exactly.

Speaker 7 (28:36):
Yeah, you pull them out after the first or sayings,
depending on how bad or good the game is going
for either side. I think you did a good job
though in highlighting what worked for us against Washington earlier
in the year and what we don't have for this game.

Speaker 8 (28:48):
Oh yeah, it's it's going to be interesting.

Speaker 7 (28:51):
But I think the most important winner loss. I think
the most important thing is like seeing what you can
get out of the guys that you have on this team.

Speaker 10 (28:58):
Remember, so who will who will be year next year?

Speaker 7 (29:00):
Granted you're saying Brandon Cooks is a free agent next year,
do you need to see him on the field.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Really, he's going to want to play, he'll play.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
I get it, I get it, But and you don't,
I mean, I don't need to see him. No, it's now,
there's no evaluation that needs to happen on Brandon Cooks.
But that being said, I could also foresee them looking
at him and saying, yeah, we do want to try
to go out on the high note. And as it stands,
you are the best receiver in the room right now,
so you know. And from a Brandon cook standpoint, he

(29:29):
wants to go out on a high note because he's
going back in the free agency in a few weeks.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
So I could see it happening.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
But it's it's and we were talking about this before
we went live with the first segment. It's very difficult
to do homework on a game where you don't.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Know who's playing size not playing. I mean, we can
only speculate on who.

Speaker 7 (29:48):
Right we assume that they're going to play.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
The commanders of fourteen guys listed on their injury report,
sixteen guys, and fourteen of those guys with D and
P yesterday, and a lot of those guys were you know,
in ire not injury related rest. So at most I said,
I could agree with Isaiah in that if you see
any of the starters for the Washington Commander's pitch count,

(30:15):
maybe they're pulled after the second series, maybe even after
the first series, so they don't really know what you're
going up against. But you do know that you don't
have CD Lamb. You do know that Cooper Rush is
as it stands. As it stands, Cooper Rush is going
to be the starter. We will see if that changes.
Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy and Stephen Jones, they all
want to see some Trey Lance. We don't know if

(30:35):
that will happen. How much Tree Lance will we see?
Will we see Willgrid? How much will Grid see? Even
that goes into the capacity of you don't know who's playing,
what the snapcount is going to be, what the splits
are in any given position. So all you can say
is just go out there and understand one thing in particular.
Regardless of who Dan Quinn chooses to put on that field,

(30:57):
could be his third, fourth string, doesn't matter. Dan is
going to want to coach them to hell up because
he wants revenge for what happened at Northwest Stadium.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
How much of a factor does that play, though.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
It plays a factor, but not enough that he in
my opinion, not enough that he'd be willing to risk
the postseason to get that revenge against the Cowboys and try.

Speaker 5 (31:17):
That's where I'm last week, because it's not like Dan
Gunn had sour grapes with Dallas.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
That's not the case.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
He's very well respected here. He still has a lot
of respect for the coaching staff here and you could
see that by some of the players that he took
with him to Washington. He had a great time in
Dallas and that's why he has the job that he
does with the Commanders.

Speaker 6 (31:34):
So no sour grapes there.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
Yes, does he want to come back and win his
reunion the second time around and have a little bit
of revenge for what was a wild fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
At Northwest Stadium.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
Absolutely, but he's not going to bet and wager his
postseason possibilities by He's exactly.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
I just want to let people know what production you're
missing this week, right from the last matchup, the last
time you face them in a week twelve, Ceede Lamb
was targeted twelve times.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Ceedee Lamb was targeted twelve times. It's a lot. He
had ten catches.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
It's a pro bowler, Yeah, twenty twenty four pro bowler,
some guy that should be in the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Yeah, you take him out of it, out of the equation.
If you remove Ceede Lamb from the equation, like you
will have him removed this week.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Not good, Bob, you're you.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Your next leading receiver was Luke Schoolmaker on three catches
out of four attempts.

Speaker 8 (32:26):
I would love to see a lot of the touchdown.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Maybe it was a touchdown, okay, all right, yeah, so
that's what twisted.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Everybody else is there?

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Everybody, everybody else who touched the ball is here in available,
but you are missing that, right.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
That's a lot.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
I want to see more Luke this week. This would
be a great Luke schoom Maaker week. I don't even
see much of Jake Fergus I do. Really, Yeah, you're
you're not. I mean, it's not going to change your
evaluation of him going into next year.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Has he made strides this year?

Speaker 10 (32:56):
No, I need to see him.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
But does it change the way you view him as a.

Speaker 10 (33:02):
Player, view him as a player. No, But there's a way.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
You could positively positively view Luke Schoomaker going into the office.

Speaker 8 (33:10):
I think there's a concern that you may have hit
a ceiling.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
With all the other titles that made strides.

Speaker 10 (33:17):
Everybody else in that who has made strides, he has
to remain stacks.

Speaker 5 (33:20):
Been banged up at different points throughout the year. So
why was Michael Presser reset button was more of a yeah.

Speaker 8 (33:29):
I think there's not I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Actually, really there has been.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
That's not that's not what I'm marging.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
We're not saying there hasn't been a stick when you.

Speaker 6 (33:37):
Look at why would not?

Speaker 4 (33:38):
So why would you not need to see continue to
see development out of him?

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Honestly because I'm already sold. I already know what you're.

Speaker 10 (33:48):
You're satisfied with you what you're getting out there.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
He has shown far far more positives than this down seats.
So as far as the now we're talking risk will war, right,
So what do you gain for? Okay, Jake Ferguson, he
goes against the commanders and he goes off one hundred
and fifty yards and three touchdowns. That's wonderful. That's fun,
pretty fun, It would be wonderful. It's fun. But that

(34:11):
doesn't take my current evaluation of Jake Ferguson as a
player any higher than what it already was. Let's say
he goes out there and you know, two catches for
fifteen yards, it doesn't take it down. At this point,
I am where I am with Jake Ferguson, which is
extremely high on him. He had he regressed a little
bit this season, but for several reasons. Right the offense

(34:32):
couldn't get going in the first half of the season,
and then he battles some injury. He came back from
the springed MCL to a backup quarterback. They couldn't get
the real chemistry going, He misses some time to the concussion,
comes back.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
It's just been a weird season for Jake.

Speaker 8 (34:47):
My argument here, though, is that I don't.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
See more of Brevin span for I'm in that evaluation mode.
I won't evaluate loom Loo tool maker.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
I want value Jake's player.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Thirteen games, Okay, okay, thirteen games. He's had three games
over seventy yards.

Speaker 7 (35:01):
He has not elevated the team. That's what I was
going to say.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
I'm just that there's been a step back, but we
were applying context to it, is what we're saying.

Speaker 7 (35:11):
Finish your thought, Josh, just in the sample size that
you have from him this season, granted had been banged up,
but when you've needed him most, when you didn't have
the offensive rolling as you should have. Sure he has
not elevated the team by any means he has not
stepped up and had a great season despite all of
the things that have happened. You've seen that from a
lot of players that obviously this is not a great

(35:33):
UH team this year, that they're they're not winning obviously,
but you've had great performances from individual players. He has
not done that.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
What I'll say is it feels like and I'll kind
of spin off it.

Speaker 7 (35:44):
Sorry, but but if this season is a wash, totally
understand and hope to see him do better next year.

Speaker 8 (35:51):
Like I said, though it's not been great.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Also, keeping in mind now we're talking about the risk physically,
because do you want to risk losing Jake Ferguson for
to something that might cost him the beginning of the
off season. But if that's the case, then you're saying
with everybody who's gonna be here next year?

Speaker 2 (36:08):
You know what I mean? Like so like, but not
everybody is a Pro Bowl potential. Care you're playing Tyler Smith,
am I I don't, I wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Are you playing Cooper BB? Are you playing any of
your other guys that are coming back for b because
he's a rookie, So those are all contributors. Though, like
those guys don't even come off the field. I mean
to ask your question, No, I wouldn't play. So I'm saying,
all those officer of lineen, they don't come off the field.
So are you trying to talking about preserving your team?
Don't playing none of your office of lineman?

Speaker 2 (36:33):
You know what I'm saying like that, That's that's what
I'm That's what I needs those reps. Tyler Gotton. We
know he needs those reps, right, but Tom.

Speaker 6 (36:42):
Not mending on a table.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
If Zach Martin were healthy and he would, and this
question was posed, I'd say no, you said, Zach Martin, Yeah,
and you sit Tyler Smith and you would, I would
sit Jake Ferguson.

Speaker 10 (36:52):
I think you know what you have in Jake Ferguson.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yeah you do.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
But to your point, and my point is as well,
I did not see, regardless of the games that he missed,
the three games that he missed, right, I have not
seen the growth, the continue with the continued, And for
that reason, I don't I don't know how you can
can say that you that you've seen enough, because I've

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seen enough going into this season from him, and he's
a pro bowler. To that point, and I believe that
the shakeback for him comes when QB one gets back.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Right, Yeah, that's yesterday.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
I looked Jordy Lewis in the face and I said,
I think your coordinator proof. I think Jordan Lewis's coordinator proof. Okay,
that spins over to Ceedee Lamb. Ceedee Lamb used to
have downturns when Cooper Rush would be in the game, right,
but now he has proven that he can be QB proof. Right,
Jake hasn't proven yet that he can be QB proof.

(37:50):
So in that capacity, fine, I get what you're saying.
But for the amount of risk that's there for this
particular game, nothing's going to have in this game that's
going to change my outlook on Jake Ferguson. I still
think that he has all pro ability. It just didn't
happen this year. I believe he'll have a good shot
at it happened in theation.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
So you talked about it real quick.

Speaker 5 (38:11):
Just to go back to your stat that you brought up,
he's only had three games over seventy yards this year
receiving from the tight end position. Right, you know how
many plus seventy plus yard games the rest of the
Cowboys team has had this year. I would rather evaluate
the rest of the room because Jake Ferguson is my
tight end one. No matter what next year, he is

(38:31):
still tight end one, and that's not going to change.
You spend a second round pick on Luke schoon Maker,
and at times this year, Luke schoo Maker has taken.

Speaker 8 (38:39):
A step, especially with Cooper Rush.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
Right with Cooper Rush, he had that connection, he's had
that chemistry, and he's had some reps, some reps because
a lot of those once Ferguson returned, rightfully returned to Ferguson.
I want to see Schoonmaker with more reps and see
what he brings going into the offseason because I know
whether or not he plays in Week eight or not,
that Jake Ferguson is tight end one.

Speaker 6 (39:02):
That's where I'm evaluating.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Understood, It's not.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
Necessarily about Jake Ferguson and his regression this year because
he has he missed one game early in the year,
two games late in the year for two completely separate injuries.
So because of that, his statistics and his entire.

Speaker 10 (39:14):
Season, and you know what, I don't put all everything
on stats.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
I don't I know you don't.

Speaker 6 (39:18):
But I'm evaluating the rest of I understand.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
But if we're going to lean on it, and from
that perspective, I know he's going to be my my
tight end one that everybody else that you know.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Is going to be your number one.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
Sit them, okay, unless they need the rest. That's where
I'm at. You need if you need reps. I would
love to see Cooper bb.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
And get another game for me. Rookies need to play.
But if you're not a rookie.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Everybody, so every all the other onlinemen can can rest.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
Take Terrence Steele, take a seat on the bench for
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Your biggest money guy. Sounds good on your office line
to fit them? Okay, totally fine.

Speaker 6 (39:54):
I would love to see.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Geidon the value.

Speaker 6 (39:58):
I would love to see Hoffman. I would love to
see I would love to see all those.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Well, let's go unleash them all. I want full evaluations.
Josh Ball got plucked, so you can't play him. So
he got picked up. Okay, I loved it for him.
Oh good question. I have to go back and look.

Speaker 6 (40:17):
Let's take our second break.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
When we come back, let's flip it to the defensive
side of the ball. What do you want to see
from the Cowboys defense up against Washington's offense? Impossible offensive
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Speaker 2 (44:57):
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Speaker 2 (45:02):
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Speaker 5 (45:04):
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Speaker 6 (45:18):
He played like garbage.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
Against the Cowboys the first time around. He was we
got the number, Buddy, I'm worried he's going to turn
it around.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
I'm worried about Drince Armstrong.

Speaker 10 (45:29):
I'm not Doris, but I'm gonnaant what.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
Is his sack total at now do you know playing?
Dante Fowler Junior.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
Dante's eating, I mean he's he's eating something nasty.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
So he's at twelve, he's at how many? Ten and
a half?

Speaker 5 (45:46):
Oh, I'm me, how meany can say one more time?

Speaker 2 (45:50):
I mean, he's my.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
He's at nine and a half, nine and a half
different types of games. Ones played sixteen games, and well.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
I get it. It's still productive productive. Yes, that answers
the question. Off.

Speaker 8 (46:02):
Mike is playing.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Oh, he's playing. As soon as he gets one. Yeah,
half a second, he's.

Speaker 6 (46:10):
Gonna pull that campboard. I'm done, guys.

Speaker 8 (46:13):
Thinks he's gonna pull Peter Griffin on.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
You see, like the cartoon hook and just come up.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
And just for a perspective, losing my dog anyways, just
for perspective, if I can get back to it.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Dante Fowler Jr.

Speaker 10 (46:29):
Okay, you guys feel like he was productive while.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
He was here? Yes?

Speaker 4 (46:32):
Sure, okay, absolutely two seasons with the Dallas Cowboys he
had ten sacks total total.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Yeah, he's ten and a half this year. Rotation a rotation.
I get it.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
And I'm saying, but you felt like he was productive,
you guy? Yeah, he's rolling this year. He's he's a
freaking I can't. I don't want to use that word
right now. He's a Yeah, he's a he's a problem,
he's a Well look.

Speaker 7 (46:54):
At Dorn's Armstrong buddy. All right, Look how much they
paid him. Look how much he's doing.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
All right. Yeah, Durrance is playing being a cup Entry player.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
But Dante Faller Junior is being that guy because Carl
Lawson d QR.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Dorris Armstrong has five sacks this year. Yeah, Carlawson has
five and a half.

Speaker 8 (47:14):
He's still in the year.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Dante Faller Junior is doing some things. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
Yes, his his career high in the season was for
the Rams at eleven and a half.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
That's when he was he was the man. He was balling.
He's one sack away from that. Yeah, he might get
that if he plays. Yeah, I'm just saying like, that's
how impactful he's been this year.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
And it's nobody's talking about him, but I'm just bringing
it to the table. That's the person I'm most concerned
about that when he was at his Pro Bowl, Hey,
everybody fear that man right there circle him on film.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
He's one sack away from that.

Speaker 6 (47:45):
And not to mention what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
I completely agree with the nation is not taking notice
Dante Faller Junior is did he even get a Pro Bowl? Not?

Speaker 2 (47:54):
You haven't seen it.

Speaker 6 (47:55):
That's crazy bad. Yeah, he should be a pro bowler. Yes, However,
the nation's not taking advantage of it.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
If there was one fan base that right now is
looking at him and saying, oh, there's what we saw
glimpses of it's Dallas. Dallas. We like you said, he
was productive here. Ten sacks over two seasons. He was
everything you needed him to be behind Michael Parsons and
DeMarcus Lawrence. But now that he's the featured guy, Dallas
looks at him, says, yeah, that makes sense. Ten and
a half sacks. That's not shocking in a dan Quinn system.

Speaker 6 (48:25):
So good for Dante. I'm glad he.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Does a tenth season. It's impressive. Ever years, it's his
tenth season.

Speaker 5 (48:31):
Wow, and he's able to look he turned back the
clock like that.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
That's impressed. It's very impressive. So that's what I'm trying about.
On the defense side of the ball.

Speaker 6 (48:37):
Offensively, who is it, who's your guy?

Speaker 4 (48:42):
You know, I might change my I I was with
you on McLaurin. If Jayson he said, this is assuming
everybody plays. Assume everybody plays.

Speaker 7 (48:50):
He's still he's we had a third string quarterback, absolutely
terrorist apart last week.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
So because I mean, think about it in anotherwise, I mean,
he's had the Cowboys weren't his only unfavorable game, but
it's one of the few unfavorable games that he had,
and it took all the way until the back end
of the fourth quarter with that shot, that deep shot
to McLaurin. Because if not for that deep shot to McLaurin,
that stat line for Jaydon not good, not good, not great, Bob.

(49:17):
So I think Jaydon Daniels, if he were to start,
he'd have that chip on his shoulder to say, you
know what, I gotta get this revenge before I end.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Uh, here's the backup. What you got hand up.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
Us backup quarterback for Washington, isn't it, Mariotta?

Speaker 2 (49:35):
It is? We got back Heisman Heisman things I was
gonna ask.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
And we were talking about Mike Zimmer the other day
and were talking about how emotional he was in the
press conference, and we.

Speaker 10 (49:50):
Can all I don't know, we can run on the wall, writing.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
On the walk type of deal.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
Right, I don't want to say that, but you said
potentially might be his last game. Do you think he
just empties all the all the attacks in thumbnails on
the ground.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
That'd be awesome.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
I would love to see that, Yes, especially if if
they want to.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Play, the guy can't take it with them.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
So if this is in fact the final game, the
final coaching game for Mike Zimmer, because I mean, honestly,
like we talked about a couple of days ago, it
sounds as if he's teetering on if he's done coaching period.
If that's the case, you can't take this playbook cover zero.
Everybody rain down.

Speaker 8 (50:35):
Hell yeah, I'm down to see it.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 6 (50:37):
All Right, that does it for us here on talking
cowboys today. Nice job, everybody.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
QB vision was fantastic because it always that was aggressive.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
We're gonna get some three hundred milligrams of caffeine and
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tomorrow for a little Say It with your Chest Friday,
the last Say It with your Chest Friday of twenty
twenty four season. Say in the first of the twenty
twenty five calendar year.

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