Talkin’ Cowboys: Mad Rush

Kyle Youmans, Patrik Walker, Isaiah Stanback & Josh Rodriguez preview the Cowboys offense vs. the Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense, if the WRs confidence has waned in Cooper Rush, and if they can run on Vita Vea and Lavonte David.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 1 (00:38):
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December nineteenth, of the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty four.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
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WBC studios, as the Cowboys prepare for.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Their Week sixteen matchup with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. We've
got the whole cast and crew ready for you to
rock today. We've got Patrick NOC Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah standback,
Crisp Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeomans. How's everybody
doing today, Isaiah?

Speaker 5 (01:34):
What I didn't get to invite for? What to the
media department?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Get together? Get together? Now you know it's real. Now
you know it's real. It's like whoa alrighty oh man,
fair enough. Listen.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
If you wanted to show up, don't throw the throw
your mic. If you wanted to show up, I don't
think anybody.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Would have it with it. You would have a probably
play no role in the media department.

Speaker 6 (02:03):
Here, especially if it's Coy Isaiah.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
I don't know. It's the it's the lie. If it's
Koy Isaiah, No, I'm not gonna happen. What about it?

Speaker 6 (02:12):
Well, I guess well, I don't know, maybe won't win.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:16):
They're really good. I hate you man.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Oh yeah, it's I don't know, arechio right now?

Speaker 2 (02:30):
That's yes, that's that's Coy Isaiah. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:33):
I would say the get together is for full time
employees and oh there you go. Based on your schedulely,
it sounds like you're part.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Top Road. Yeah, you work for NFL network, You loser.
You get him. Sorry, guys, oh man, you enjoy that
good morning football dog. That's so funny. All right, let's
get it. Don't hang out with your new dudes. You
know your other Kyle. It's fine, it's man. You can

(03:13):
take that angry run. And just my word, it went
from Isaiah feeling.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
To the exacerbaby, why you feel ostracized?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
The cold world, brother, whole world, cold world man. No blankets,
no blankety blankets, grebel coat.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
All right, so we're going to start with news and notes. Okay,
let's let's start with a text that I just received.
So it's one of those literally like just just sixty seconds,
not necessarily breaking news, but a bit of a of
a reunion for the CA Dallas Cowboys. They have re
signed rookie defensive tackle Justin Rogers. Oh yeah, so Justin

(03:58):
Rodgers is back. Out of all he was on the
Bengals for a while, probably Bengals for a while. The
Cowboys waved him in their roster management because they had
some ir moves to make injuries happening obviously obviously, but yeah,
Justin Rodgers, he is back. Seventh round pick back in
April of the Cowboys. I saw some promise from him
in training camp, but he wasn't able to earn his

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state away onto the field. They're getting another look at
him for twenty twenty five obviously, so let's see what
happens with that.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
So welcome back to Justin Rodgers. Interesting.

Speaker 6 (04:28):
I don't know that I've seen that before. Well, it
was weird to see him in the preseason or I
guess it was the preseason right now get released as
a draft pick. That was really interesting. I don't know
that I had seen that. Yeah, a long time Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
It was like twenty I think before that was like
twenty nineteen or twenty twenty, the last one they released
a guy.

Speaker 6 (04:49):
Good trivia question.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
It would have been a late day three guy, because
the first thing that came to mind was Reggie Roberts
Robinson in the fourth round corner.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
But I don't think that was a training camp cut.
That was later in the year. Maybe even that.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Then, what about Michael Jackson, that's twenty nineteen, I think
probably that might be it might.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Be thinking Michael Jackson, Yeah, that might be. Well.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
Nonetheless, it's it's not worth digging into. No disrespect to
those guys, but you know, we got more yeah, more, but.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
It was interesting to see them move on.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
And I think based off of what Patrick saying, I
completely agree the stuff that he showed in camp was
significant enough for me to say, Okay, like, I see
why you drafted him. It wasn't like he was tearing
people up and it was a it was a bloaytant
disrespect releasing him.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Or whatever it ends up being. But I'm happy he's back.
That's a good he shows. Got a practice squad signing.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
I'll get clarification. That text simply says cow team re
signing Justin Rodgers. Didn't specify if it was practice squad
or straight to active ross interesting, so I'll get clarity,
hopefully before the end of the show. But welcome back
to Justin Rodgers. Cowboys injury report came out yesterday. We have,
as it goes, we have the bad news and we
have the good news. I'll start with with the bad.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
So TJ.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Bass did not participate on Wednesday's practice with that thigh
injury that took him out late against the Carolina Panthers,
So we will monitor that. You might have some ol
shifting on on there. Likely if Bass can't go, expect
to Meydoga to pop in at right guard as he
did against the Panthers for the Cowboys. Trayvon Diggs, we
already know his season is done. He won't be back. Well,

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we'll see if he starts on the publice probably will.
Eric Kendricks, it was a non injury related personal deity
did listed as a calf as well that he's managing.
But the calf is not withheld him out of practice,
so no worries there for Eric Kendricks.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Keep an eye on.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Mazzi Smith so he did not participate yesterday with a
back issue. This is not the first time that a
back issue has cropped up. On the injury report from
Mazzie Smith. It didn't keep him out of the last
couple of games as far as the injury report that
preceded those games, so hopefully that's the case here. But
something to monitor there. Nick Vigil he doesn't practice.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Let's move on.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yeah, plays, but he plays and he blocks punts.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
So there you go.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
We have some limiteds. Malik Hooker, Seeding Lamb. None of
those guys are of any concern. I will say this
now here we go with the good news. Jordan Lewis
spoke with Jordan Lewis in the locker room yesterday. Obviously,
he suffered the elbow injury against the Panthers, and he
told me after the game he has good mobility. Cowboys
ran some tests on Monday. Spoke with Jay lou on yesterday.

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He said he's a little banged up, but he feels
like he can go out there and play this week.
So to that comment, he was limited in practice yesterday.
He did do some of the practice participations, so that's
good news. More good news as far as the secondary
is concerned. Jan Ye Thomas, we had that terrible scare
with him a couple of weeks or so ago. Turned
out to be a minor meniscus issue. I talked to

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him yesterday. He said that he's able to go through
put it through its paces his knee. He's just managing
a little bit of soreness thereafter. But Andrew report backs
that up limited participation. I asked one yeah, yesterday, I said,
are we good for Philadelphia?

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Hint? Hint?

Speaker 5 (08:02):
He smiled, and he said why not this week? I
like that energy, young man.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
I like that energy.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
So there's a chance, a solid chance that one Ye
Thomas will be back against the Buccaneers fingers crossed on that.
Cooper BB more great news. He was a full participant
in practice yesterday. I will get clarity on if that
means he's clear the protocol or not. But he was
allowed to participate fully yesterday. So that is a glaring

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green light for Cooper BB's chances and everybody else special
assass yeah, and the others. Rico Daldo full participant, Tylers
Smith full participant. So great takeaways. Cooper bebe back at
practice full participant. Looks like he's on the route to
being cleared if he's not already. Jordan Lewis says that
he can play. We'll see if he's allowed to. Jan
Yea Thomas looks like he's back earlier than they anticipated.

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They said two or three weeks. We're coming up on
two weeks. So that the tracks so the bad and
the good for the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
I did look it up, by the way, Josh.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Last player to get cut from training camp or after
training camp before the regular season and not be re
signed to the or practice squad for at least a
significant period of time was Marquez White twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Corner White. It was the last one, of course, Corner
out of Florida.

Speaker 6 (09:20):
Little while ago, but I don't think he was ever
re signed after the fact, especially not.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, they cut him on September third, so yeah, he was.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
He was out for a while, so this is interesting.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
Well, they brought him on the back they were hoping
to not lose Justin Rogers to waivers when they it
was one hundred percent of numbers game. They were hoping
he'd clear fall back to him, kind of like the
John Ridgeway thing. But he didn't, kind of like the
Jordan Ridgeway thing. So yeah, but he's back now.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
I say, I liked that move, right whenever John Ridgeway.
I like the John Ridgeway. Yeah, they did too.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
He's done some good things, Yes, he's he's been a
starter for the most part since he's left here.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah. Yeah, he's been decent.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
Decent is the right word. We're not going to pretending
it's not Galacta South here.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
But he was a Crown or anything.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, but he was like a six round pick at
that point, right, He wasn't Magneto for sure.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Magnet I know it now. It was back in the
draft show in twenty twenty where I didn't though.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
By the way, after the Superman trailer dropped, well, talked
about it.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Oh, we're gonna talk about it.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
Also sponsored by black Roff Coffee.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
He that was Crisp. That was sponsor. That was Cowboys.
That sounded like a drop Okay, not as crisp, not
as crisp, not as Crisp.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
I couldn't know without your slurp. That was unfortunate, but
it was great. I'll get there, get there.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
I want you to tell me intimidated by you? No,
I just want to let it breathe a little bit.
That's all.

Speaker 8 (10:47):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
With all this being said, Cowboys offensive preview against Tampa Bay.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
We talked yesterday about what Tampa Bay.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Does offensively, Mike Evans, Baker Mayfield, they're the headliners, but
they aren't the only ones that have some success the
Cowboys right now, the headline er is Rico Dowdle, no
doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
The offensive line Rico Doubdle. That is what your offense is.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
One A, one B is cd Lamb there too, and
what he's done over the last few weeks and continuing
to do throughout the season. So my question to you,
I'll start with Isaiah on this one. Out of the
run game or the passing game, which one has to
be on the highest of the totem pole whenever it
comes to this matchup. You got to be better in

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the passing game.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Yes, you got to be able to pass. The second
is this are we doing?

Speaker 1 (11:35):
We'll go to QB vision in the next second, but
just kind of kind of talk generally about it.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, you gotta throw the ball on these guys.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
They're not Their secondary is not amazing, So I think
you have opportunities to do that. There's a lot of
gaps in there in their coverage and that you can
fully get behind. This is a tight end game.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
This is a game for your Titans. But you hope
so got a couple of those guys.

Speaker 6 (11:54):
They're ranked thirtieth in opponents pass yards per game. I
don't know if you guys knew that. They're not really
a note work.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
It's not the bottom.

Speaker 6 (12:01):
It's not the bottom, but it's it's not great. They're
not really enough of the bottom.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
Still kind of the basement. Fair enough too, stairs up
from the floor in the basement. It's still you're in
the basement.

Speaker 6 (12:13):
They haven't done much to be noteworthy this season. I
mean over the last four games. Obviously they've stepped it up,
but I just like you said yesterday, they haven't really
beat a winning team on this run. So I just
don't think, like you said, the secondary is anything to
necessarily be concerned about. But you have to be concerned

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in that Cooper Rush is the one that's leading the charge,
right and he's kind of been getting his deep shots in,
but they are not as consistently well thrown.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
As you'd want.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
Oh absolutely, you know, and Isaiah's mentioned this a couple
of weeks ago. The velocity of those throws, they're just
not there. You saw a couple of really really nice throws,
but I think the net of those passes are maybe
thirty twenty five yard. He's really not bombing it out there.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
I think even over the last few weeks he's taken
steps in that in the right direction.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Is it Dak Prescott level? Is it high level quarter either? No,
it's not.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
But Cooper Rush, let's say, let's just compare weeks ten
and eleven, so the first two losses that he had
against the final month of the season that he's had
as well, where he's three and one, so oh and
two to start five point one yards per attempt, right,
And he was asked about that question last week about
yards per attempt, He's like, I don't even know how
they really calculated, right, And so he's obviously not looking

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at it, does not pay close of attention to it.
But five point one yards per attempt that was lous
lowest in the NFL over starting caliber players.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
In the two weeks from week ten to week eleven.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
From week twelve through fifteen, he's three and one as
a starter, of course, and he's taken that five point
one and he's up to it to six point six,
so they've they've pushed it a little.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Bit more downfield.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
His passer rating went from a seventy to a ninety eight.
He had one passing touchdown one interception of those two games.
He now has eight passing touchdowns and one interception in
those far the most recent four games. They're using him
in a different way. But why why is it successful?
Is it just the defenses that they're playing. They're not
playing as loaded of defenses as they did against the

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Texans and the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
I think that could play a factor.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
Honestly, I think Rico has been pretty relatively consistent all
year long. I mean, all year long, he's been over
a four year average and forty four yards per carry
average for the most part, most recently, I think the
shuffling of the offense alignment have have contributed to his success.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
So I was what I was mentioning was was Rush
was his numbers overall for Cooper Rush. But are you
saying Rico's running game is adding to that?

Speaker 2 (14:47):
No, I don't. I don't. I think Rush is just
by chance. It's just he's not doing anything. It's not
anything different. I'm not trying to hate. I'm just being real.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
I just have not.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
I've seen his game fall off.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
Rushes.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yes, from when, from when? From previous year? Years, okay,
previous year.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
His accuracy is down. He seems less, less comfortable, and
that's burying itself out in the fumbled snaps and some
of the errant throws to like a wide open crosser
CD Lamb, or the inability for he and Jonathan Mingle
to get on the same page. It's it's it's it's
kind of weird to see from a veteran who has

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already proven that he can be accurate and he can
be confident and composed back there to come in this
particular season, and again when his first couple of starts,
there were some real protection issues, okay, and a large
part of that was due to injuries like Zach Martin
for example, he was not Jack Martin. But then when
you bringing these younger guys, brought coff In, TJ.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Bass.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
Obviously, Cooper Beebe has been eating up front. Tyler Smith
is doing what Tyler Smith does. Terren Steele is playing
at a high level. Again, you're having the time back
there for Cooper Rush, but you're still seeing him not
make the throws even when he has the time. So
it's kind of strange. But I will say it seems
that he's more willing to take risks. So I'm viewing
Cooper Rush on kind of a scale right now. Normally

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he's he's not going to be your river riverboat guy.
He's not Dak Prescott, not going to take those deep
shots because he wants to not be the reason you
lose the game. Yeah, he doesn't want to throw the
interception right right, But his confidence between you know, one
to ten yards or so was always really high. The
accuracy was really high. Well, that's kind of taking a

(16:26):
step back, definitely, and I feel like as that goes down,
he feels like he needs to be a little bit
more of a risk taker. So that's why you're seeing
twenty twenty plus yard passes.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Go on, come on with it. This is a bold take.
It's my opinion. Hey say, this is my opinion.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
This is not from insight. I don't think they believe
in them and Cooper who Cooper Rush? I don't think
who doesn't. I don't think the offensive weapons believe in
Cooper Rush's ability to get them the ball. So the players,
the players, and I think that has contributed to his
lack of execution offensively. So you start talking about confidence
just because somebody has had a good record and things

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have been well for them in the past. When you
lose confidence, and as a player, you see that your
team no longer, there's a twinkle in the eye, and
there's a frustration. There's body language, there's all these nonverbal
cues that you see when you're playing and when you
see these inaccurate passes and when you see opportunities miss
and you see receivers looking back at you like shaking
their head like come on, man, And it happens consistently
over and over. Now you question everything that you do

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as a quarterback. So when you start questioning everything that
you do, you start playing as a shell of yourself.
We've seen it in we're seeing it in Kirk Cousins.
Everybody's wondering what happened to KIRKU He can't move?

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, he can't move.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
But that's not all right the other guys. It's the
mental aspects, right when you see guys stop believing in you.
Guys don't run their routs.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
It's hard.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
When they do run their routs hard and they get open,
you freaking throw it a bad ball. They're not going
to give you the same effort, but you're just not
going to get that.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
So confidence is a real thing.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
I don't care what level of competition you're at, but
especially at the NFL, when there are other people who
are depending on you to help them be in the limelight,
to help them get their performance bonuses, to help you
to help them get their numbers up. When you're directly
affecting them, yeah, they're gonna be frustrated with you. And
when they're frustrated with you, and you see that they're
frustrated with you, you're no longer confident. Why would you

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be confident, but they want.

Speaker 6 (18:14):
To put good tape out there as well. It's it's
not just about, you know, quitting on a route if
you don't think.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
He's he's saying.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
But my thing with Cooper Rush is that I don't
know that he's had enough time in It sounds bad
because he's been here for a long time, but in
this offense, because if you could, if you think about it,
Mike McCarthy instituted the Texas Coast offense last season. He
didn't play any time really during the season that he
hadn't played until before when Kellen Moore was the offensive coordinator.
Part of me feels that, like like we had issues

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last season getting into the groove of things, especially Dak Prescott.
It wasn't until week five where Dak really started to
figure out the Texas Coast and to me, it feels
like a bit of growing pains in that. But then again,
he's been here a long time. He should know the
offense in and out.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
It's also a sample sized thing too along with exactly
because remember before the season, what we're we talking about
it was the five and one record from Cooper Rush,
so that as a starter five and one filling in
for Dak Prescott six games total as a starter in
the NFL throughout his entire career.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
How many games has he started already this year with
three more to play? What's six? Okay, so it's the
same number.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
So he's had just as much starting ability or starting
opportunity in twenty twenty four already as he has his
entire career previously. And you throw in the fact that
it's the first time, really outside of the one game
last year, that he's had a chance to play in
a new West Coast scheme.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I know the West Coast is supposed to be quarterback friendly.
It's not the system. And I'm not trying to be
a jerk. I'm no, no, it's not the system.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
It is it is from my perspective, from what I'm seeing,
it is all confidence because these guys are going out
there and it's a mental thing. These guys are going
out there. They're going out there with a proper intent.
We're gonna go out There're gonna this game. We're going
to execute the game plan. And you go out through,
you do your job, and then balls over. You're like, bro,

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what like, come on, man, why is this the conversation. Now,
it's been it's been building. It's been building.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
But every week they've won three of their last four
and he just threw a three touchdown pass or three.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
He made a couple of good throws. Yeah, he made
a couple of good throws. Absolutely, I'm not going.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
To say you build confidence off of that.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
Nope, Yes, I I don't want to disagree with I don't.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
I don't think so. I think you can. I don't
think so.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
I mean, I mean, I think he made some good plays,
and those guys made some great catches.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I'm not saying he's the starter of the future or
even the backup of this.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
Those are broken plays though, too so.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
But when you like, when you have the freelance as
a quarterback, the best quarterbacks are best whenever the play
breaks down.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
You don't want him breaking you don't. Okay, I agree
with you about what you about to say. Cooper Rush
isn't the quarterback you want in a broken play in
the facts, but he made a couple of good plays.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
But he did. I mean, you got to give him credits.
So can you off on that.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
I agree with that, that that's not the quarterback you
wanted to broke and play. But it's also true. I
believe that when a quarterback throws a dot like to
Jalen Brooks or the Jaalen Tober like the ones he
did great, that's a confidence builder, right, especially in one
of those was a flush out. He didn't have to
flush out to the right, but he flushed out and
he made that throw. Now, there are some throws that

(21:19):
rattle the confidence. Again, He's only thrown two picks with
his entire seasons.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
What I'm saying is, I get you.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
The consistency of his accuracy to me ties into a
confidence issue.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
So he has ebbs and flows with confidence.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
When he fumbled the snap for the first time that's
in his career, we saw him frustrated and just punching
the grind. That's confidence. That's a confidence issue. And fumbling
is missing the throw to CD Lamb and then CD
turns around. He's like, yep, that dot it in your head, right,
and then you make a good throat, Well, you make
another bath throw that CD saved you from. Right, that's
in your head. You're like, oh, thank you so much,

(21:53):
CD for saving you. Don't say it out loud, but
you're saying it in your head right. You might even
say to him the touchdown the CD was a bath throw.
That's what I just said. But when you then muster
up or buck up and you make that throw to
Tobrin and Brooks on their back in that back pyelone
confidence builder, it reminds you that, hey, I can play
this game at a high level.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
So I do agree with you and disagree with you there.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
I believe that those throws can be confidence builders, and
he's had more and more of the confidence builder throws
over the past couple of games than the previous four games,
but they need more of those accurate throws.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
I agree to. What you're saying is you're going to
see a lot of play action.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
Hopefully that's going to be the recourse of what you
just saw. So and statistically they're not running a lot
of PA with him, but I guarantee you see a
huge uptick because what the coaches saw was like, Okay,
maybe he's maybe he just needs to get out the
pocket to feel comfortable. That's what that's that's what you're
gonna say. I guarant I almost gear will I listen,

(22:51):
You're gonna see him get out the pocket a lot
more this week.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
I think I'm okay with that. I would be okay
with that.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
The thing about Cooper Rush, and I understand what you're
saying because you're you're so right in the ball placement
and the throws and the way he's leading receivers and
all of these different aspects of playing the quarterback position.
You're critical on Dak in that regard too, from time
to time, and Dak's gotten better as his career has
gone on in that regard, whereas Cooper Rush has shown

(23:20):
a significant regression. I don't think I can kill Cooper
Rush on what he's done this year based off of
the situation he's been put in and some of the
things that he's been put in front of him. He's
overcome a lot as the starting quarterback over the last
six games.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
I don't disagree.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
But what I'm saying is I don't believe that the
players have the same boat of confidence in him as
a quarterback as they once did.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
That's that's my statement. So comparing one for the Rush
to Cooper Rush, not comparing Cooper to Dak.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
It was they had confidence because before I'd just say before,
when he was whatever was a se whatever it was,
he was getting the ball out on time, The ball
was accurate, right, he wasn't. He wasn't creating plays, but
he was doing what was expected. Just do get me
the ball. Just get me the ball on time, on location,

(24:11):
with opportunity to get get some yack yardage.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
No, that's no longer the fact.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
So if Cooper Rush, who doesn't possessed the ability to
really run the ball, he's not the most agile person
in the world. He's not gonna make anybody miss. He's
not known for throwing on the run. If he can
no longer sit in the pocket and throw the ball
on time and accurate, what is he.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
He's a placeholder for thank you very much. And that's
what I'm saying. But that's what he's supposed to be.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
Well, he's a backup quarterback. Well, we're not going to
do is sit here and pretend that that Cooper Rush
and Ceedee Lamb have ever actually had chemistry on the field.
They're great teammates and they love each other to death.
But if you go back and you look at because
I remember having this conversation even during Cooper rushes for
one for in one stretch, right, Ceedee Lamb wasn't Ceedee
Lamb that season until Dak got back, and it was

(24:55):
like a couple of them, right. So certain receivers and
certain quarterbacks as much as they love each other and
they love.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Now you're in there, brother, No, there's no lie there.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
But when I started talking about the lack of confidence
from the player's perspective, from the running back who has
to catch the ball out of the back through from
a tight end, from a receiver, those guys who are
dependent on their quarterback to get them the ball for
their opportunities to make plays. That that's the requirement outside
of getting handed the ball on a fly sweep okay,
which as you saw up tacking on that because of that, right,

(25:24):
we have to get the ball in his hands. We're
struggling to get the ball in his hands.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Crap fly sweep. Right, So that's what you saw.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
And again, once I run past twelve to fifteen yards,
what's my confidence level that I'm getting the ball?

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Not very much. Not It's not great, it's not great.
So what is that? What does that do to you
as a receiver? Well, be honest, why do you what
does that do with you? Do do to you as
a receiver?

Speaker 5 (25:46):
If you have a deep route, I can kill this
dude off the line of scrimmage, but I'm probably not
gonna get the ball because he can't get it there.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
It kills It kills your motivation.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
I'm just telling you, it kills your motivation as a
player to continue doing your job at the level that
you know. You know what needs to kick in, and
what better kick in is professionalism because you better run
run that coaching because that ball the moment you don't
run the route and you don't finish the route and
come out of your break clean, right.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
But this is what's on the play caller to not
put you in exactly and know the limitations that you
have as a quarterback. That's why Cooper Rush has a
one hundred quarterback rating over the last four games, because
the coaching staff that realized we can't throw the ball
downfield with Cooper Rush.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Like we did with Dak Prescott. Correct.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Unfortunately, that's the reality that this team has settled into.
And I don't think that's changed from five and one
Cooper Rush to three and three Cooper Rush.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
I really don't think you're gonna find out a.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
Lot about Cooper Rush cut his team presses man, let's
talk about it.

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Speaker 2 (29:23):
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Speaker 5 (29:35):
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Defense. There's a dude by the name
of Todd Bowles who happened to be here. Actually, my
first interaction with Todd Bowles was when he was a
coach here to Dallas.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, he's a dude. He's a dude.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
He is a good coach. He's a no nonsense coach,
and his defense plays like him. You start talking about
I'll say this, I'll say the strength of their defense
is the front seven. The front seven. That's that's where
you want to get away from. You want to get
away from those dudes because they have some guys on
the front seven.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Name on the interior, you know, he went in a
down year, went to like down Washington State.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
I know it like that. Don't do that. He would
never allow that.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
His name is Vita Vea. There's a large human being
in the middle of the field. Uh large, he's numbers fifty.
If you guys want to see it's probably like a
seven x L. He's what six six three.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
Three, he's seventy eleven.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
Yeah, he's a large human and he's very strong and
very qui station. Yeah, he's very quick. You guys have
seen him before. We played Tampa before, so Cowboys fans
are very familiar with Vita Vea.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
He's a dude that you can't put one person on.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
That's why this defensive front provides problems because if you
try to put one person on him, he's going to
be five yards deep in the backfield. It's just gonna
be the case because there's not one guy that can
block him. Welcome back, Cooper b B exactly right. So,
as you're talking about this shuffling of offensive linemen for
the Dallas Cowboys, you have to factor into it that
they're about to go against a veteran dominant defensive lineman

(30:59):
in Vita Bay. Now, as I just mentioned, he is
having a down year by his standards, but he's still
a dude. The fellas that are playing next to him,
those guys, those guys get after it.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
They have some guys. One of them in particular is
Logan Hall. I like him. I like him a lot.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
He was another Kyle Draft pat cat out of he
Oh my gosh, so fun dude.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
His table is fun.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
He and Elijah Kncey, who are also who's also on
that team fancy out of pit.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
He was more broadus his guy on that draft show.
But he's not doing fun.

Speaker 6 (31:32):
Cancey's not doing great. He had and he hadn't had
the same similar to Mazzie Smith in that way, Sargin.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
You're you're fine.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Uh So.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
Logan Hall's other gentlemen on the defensive front that I
that I really like. So those guys up front are
are strong, they're stout, they're linebackers.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Talk to him, Oh Lavonte David.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
Wait, he's still there thirteen years and still ball and
he has a young gun playing with him. Woods name
is Yaya Young appear on ya yah yah ya is
an absolute dude as well. I like him, Yeah ya Yadyadi,
Yeah yah yah Dyabi. He's he's the dude they run
and hit those two guys running.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
You go to Cincinnati, where was he from? Click on that.
He's a dog.

Speaker 8 (32:14):
He's six three sixty three, the getting better by the year. Yeah, yeah,
that's pretty good. So yeah, yeah, those guys are nasty.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
Okay, they they they run a four man front, but
they like to walk two guys up on the edge,
so they present a six man front. And the reason
why that's important is because Cowboys fans a lot of
times when you guys see coach Zimmer walk his guys
up to the A gaps. The reason why that presents
the problems because there's usually six guys at the line
of scrimmage and those guys in the A gaps really
determine which direction.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
You want to send your protection.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
So when there's four defensive linemen and there's a defensive
end slash outside linebacker depending on your system, like these
guys have to stand up and outside lanebackers a lot
of times you have to make a decision which way
do I want to send my my center want to
send them to the right. I want to send them
to the left. It's literally rowing the craps as well
as you don't know is am I going to be
sliding to the right three man side or am I

(33:08):
going to be sliding to a four man side? I
really don't know. So that's the issue that they present
up front. That's where the communication issues may come in. Also,
if you have a vita via at the inside your
interior D line position that requires two guys, and you
have six guys walked up at the light of scrimmage,
that's a huge problem numbers wise, because now you have four. Yeah, okay,

(33:32):
so now you got three guys available. Because if you're
using two to block Vita vea, you have three guys
available to block a potential five present some problems. So
they don't do a lot of crazy exotic blitzes, but
the simplistic stuff that they do. They're able to do
simplistically because of the guys that they have on.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
They're just bringing it. They're not doing anything crazy.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
They're not doing anything crazy. The thing is they know
you can't put one guy on their guy. So it's like, okay,
well with that fact, it's like, what's name he's played
d line for the Rams. Aaron Donald? Yes, so Aaron
Donald definitely trust I did not I did. I'm hurting
right now, Aaron donal Aaron Donald require two people at

(34:11):
all times because of his speed and his ability just
to get off the ball. Vitavea, in the opposite regard,
requires two people because he's just a large human who's
strong and he's quick for his size. So those are
the problems, right, They're not doing this exotic stuff for safeties.
Are walking all over the place and you have to
figure out it's literally we're at the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
What are you gonna do? Beat us? Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
And on top of that, not only do we have
six guys walked up to the line of scrimmage, but
we're also going to press you on the outside. Right
for the first time that Dallas Cowboys are facing a
single high dominant team where they're gonna come up and
play either Cover three or they're gonna play Cover one.
Those are their two primary coverages that they like to run.
You go back and watch the Chargers game. They are
up in your face, beat me off the line of scrimmage,
have fun, have fun, and I bet you by the

(34:51):
time that by the time that your receiver gets open,
we're probably in the backfield grabbing the slamming, slamming your
your your quarterback, like like the Hulk slammed U what's
his name, what's his name? Low Ki exactly right. So
that's that's what B to B wants to do. He
wants to grab me and slam you, like like Hulk and.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Low Key exactly. So that's what they do there.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
Coverage wise, their safeties corners not impressed there at all,
but you have to beat them off the line of scrimmage,
and Dallas has not seen that challenge.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
I missed it trying to blow through.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
So that's that is that run defense is not as
impressive as you would think they would be.

Speaker 6 (35:29):
No, but a lot of that is because of Kalajah
can see.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah, he's been he's been rough.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
It's rough to see, and like if we're complaining about
Mazzie Smith, I mean, look at this dude. This guy
was drafted nineteenth overall in twenty three draftees.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, it's it's rough.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
He wasn't really supposed to be a run stopper. He
was supposed to be a penetrator. He's supposed to be
a guy that that had some success rushing the quarterback.
Like that's what they wanted to get out of Colaijah
can't see, but they they happen.

Speaker 6 (36:00):
The only thing he can't see it, you know what
I'm saying, I can't see it.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
The only thing I'll add to what was a phenomenal
QB vision as always from our guy Iris, is that
Levante David in his thirteenth year. He can he can
cover because he has more than five pass break coups,
but he can also get after the quarterback five and
a half sacks absolutely, So what you want to keep
him from doing is playing downhill if at all possible.
So I love what you said about this possibly being

(36:31):
a big tight ends game for like Jake Ferguson, maybe
Looke Schoolmaker contries as well. Get Lavonte is making more
of an impact as a downhill guy who's pressuring quarterbacks
and blitz package, and then he is as a cover guy.
But though he can cover, but force him to cover right.

Speaker 6 (36:45):
Him as a pass rusher, he's kind of he's what
is it called when you're just transcending time? He really is,
because he hasn't had this many sacks since twenty thirteen.
He's been in the league a long time while, and
he's doing really well. And the fact that he is
now rushing the pastor more than he has before gives
him a jolt of energy. He's he looks more youthful.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
Now, dragging him down the scene. Force him to delete
him from the blitz packages because you're already going to
have your hands full with that front four and next.
Don't need any additional guys going after Cooper rush.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
You just don't. Not that are that good anyway.

Speaker 6 (37:19):
Next to him is another linebacker, J. J. Russell, who's
he's not great. He's not flashing in coverage by any means,
but he's stopping the run. He has not recorded a
mistackle this season.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
No, they tackle, well, that's the discipline. Say that again, ya,
that's ridiculous. We are having this conversation nineteenth.

Speaker 6 (37:36):
Yes, and JJ Russell has not recorded a mistackle this season.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
That's insant.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
Yeah, their whole defense tackles well, they really do, and
that goes in them from from tom balls to balls.
Is not going to accept a team that doesn't tackle well.
He wants guys, He wants those big fellows to hold
down to Ford. He wants his outside linebackers to get pressure.
And we're going to press up and.

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All right, let's get into our Pickham segment, and it
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Speaker 2 (40:37):
A little Beamer's bulletin. Baby, what's going on, Chris Beam?
What's up?

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Guys?

Speaker 2 (40:41):
How's it going? It's great? How are you because I'm
in first place too? Yes, Patrick, you are in first place.
Thanks for letting everyone know on the socials. You put
it on social time.

Speaker 9 (40:53):
I'm Jeff.

Speaker 14 (40:53):
I did not pronounce Patrick's in the league. Kyle has
made a jump from third place to second. Josh is
like a roller coaster. Games in behind, you're two games
or two games. You're like a roller coaster, Josh. A
couple of weeks ago, you're in second, Now you're in
the third. You're in fourth place. Actually, the fans and

(41:16):
Kyle has jumped you in one week. Stand back, fans,
stand back, stand back, got a caboose. You need to
spend more time in the classroom and less time at
the NFL network.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Buddy, forty eight and thirty two.

Speaker 14 (41:30):
That's a winning record, you're well, I mean you're only
twelve games back. Your twelve games back of Patrick.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
So either either you have to do one or two things.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
They have a better winning You need to pick a
lot of dogs.

Speaker 14 (41:44):
In the next three weeks, a lot of dogs, and
you need to pick against Patrick.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
So whatever Patrick says, pick no, I'm going to my
fellow dread brethren.

Speaker 5 (41:55):
That's what got him in trouble, does f well, because
if you pack with me, we'd be talking.

Speaker 14 (42:01):
You'd be fine, all right, So he would do like
a jersey swat bed and but you're not catching. If
stand back can get to first pace and be Patrick,
we got Patrick has to do something.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Hot sauce challenge. Last time we did a jersey challenge.
Whoa like that? One would say, if I catch you,
you have to do a hot sauce challenge. The percentage
is point zero one.

Speaker 6 (42:23):
No, he's got to do a coffee challenge or hot
sauce challenge. Better sat here and drink a spicy ketchup.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
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Speaker 5 (42:33):
That's actually not hot sauce.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
I hate it, but that's not He agreed to the
hot sauce. We're going to the hot sauce again. That
was one of the best episodes we've ever had.

Speaker 5 (42:42):
Alright, that's always all right here we go any podcast
Potential Dogs.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
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made about it, all right.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Potential Dogs Giants at Falcons, Browns at Bengals Bears versus
Lions at home, and the Patriots are fourteen and a
half point underdogs to the Buffalo Bills on the road.

Speaker 6 (43:02):
Yeah, don't take that one.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Anybody who got there.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Oh, I didn't even ask for the callers asked for
a car eight five five to two nine seven.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Hurry it up.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
We got like two negative two minutes eight eight eight
eight five five two two nine seven.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Hop on the phone line home right now.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
I'll start this off but say, first of all, none
of these dogs are going to win, but I will
take just to get frisky Dorian Smith Robinson his store,
and I'll take him against the Benglis.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
That's what I was gonna do to the Browns.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Zim.

Speaker 6 (43:28):
Yeah, I'm taking the Browns.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
I'm taking the Browns because I'm not go Falcons.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
I'm not picking the Giants, I'm not picking the Bears,
and I'm not picking the Patriots against the Bills. It's
that's the only one left last. We'll we'll the fact
of that. We'll just say it's a wash. Dogs are
a wash this week because nobody's gonna gain or lose
any ground there.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
So dogs are you know what? Give me?

Speaker 6 (43:50):
Give me the Giants.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Giants. Okay, so it's not a wash. There we go.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Giants for Josh for everybody, including the fan. Oh you're
playing the Yeah, smart, that's good.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Give me the Giants, you know you know what. No, no,
that's smart. Give me the give me the Patriots, give
me the Patriots.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
If you would have just said, give me the Giants
and stop talking.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yep, you know what to win it? Yeah, give me
the for you real quick. It's Josh in Chicago. What's up,
Josh in Chicago. Hey guys, let's go all right, let's
go call the personality. That's right, I love it. Giants, Browns, Bears, Patriots.
Who's your dog this week? Patriots are way too too
far under the not win Patriots.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Okay, so we all picked a different team. So he's
got the Patriots with me. You've got the Bears, You've
got you've got the Giants, Josh. All right, here we go,
Broncos at the Chargers. We never get to pick Thursday
night games. We're gonna pick tonight's game. Broncos Argers, bow.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Knicks against Justin Herbert.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Who you got former Oregon quarterbacks facing off against each other?

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Give me the Broncos, Broncos. Give me the Chargers to
win it. Give me the Angels Chargers. Yeah, I think
charges part at home field? What do you think, Josh Funny, Yeah,
I'm going charges on this one.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Oh Am, I a dog now Texans Chiefs that Josh
and Chicago. What do you got Texans at Chiefs?

Speaker 9 (45:14):
Oh Man, that's a tough one.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
But I I just want to see my home, my
homes lose hate going with the Texans, Josh Rodrive.

Speaker 6 (45:23):
I am going with the Houston Texans on this.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Maybe give me the Chiefs. They still find a way
to get it done somehow.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
I would love to go with the Texans. But that
blood magic the Chiefs have at home?

Speaker 2 (45:34):
None the list. Yeah, man, shoot. Their offense is like
in the twenties in almost every cat. I told you they.

Speaker 6 (45:41):
Like the devil names they like. That's like the whole
receiving core.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
That's true. Hobby Wood Brown is back today. Okay, okay,
he's back. They're explosive players back.

Speaker 5 (45:53):
The rusty defensive ends to eat for the Houston Texans
and hobbled Oh Patrick Mahomes, Oh his defense fake injury
picked the Texans. Yes, Texas. Wow, you see the Chiefs
knocked off the hell horse.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Put again that that's sold their souls.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Yeah, Jaggs at Raiders. Quickly, here, guys, Jacks, Jaggs, Raiders.
I'll pick the Jags, Jaguars, Josh and Chicago.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Let's go Raiders, Raiders. Vikings at Seahawks, Isaiah, get it
out of the way. You're in there. You go give
me the vik for you last week Vikings Vikings, Josh.

Speaker 9 (46:36):
I'll go with Isaiah.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
This what we're talking about, you're gonna lose with in another.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
In another world, this would have been one of the
best games of Week sixteen. But in this current world
that we live in right now, it is a.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Game. Forty nine Ers at the Dolphins.

Speaker 6 (46:56):
Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Give me the Dolphins. Pick them.

Speaker 5 (47:02):
Yeah, go go to hill Coyle Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
There you go. What are you thinking this, Kyle Shanahan
is I think I know you're talking to me? All right?
All right, moving on.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
This.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
This cow is my Kyle. This is the good Kyle.
As long as we get through the second I was
like to give me Shanahan coming off of the player
walking off the field. Okay, so they're gonna get they're
gonna get angry, all right, Josh and Chicago.

Speaker 11 (47:32):
Yeah, I'll go with the fighting Ray Finkles there.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
I'll go with the Dolphins, all right, take.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
It to the Dolphin's gonna clarify.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Sunday Night Football at AT and T Stadium seven fifteen
start time.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
We'll be out on the plaza with Cowboys pregame live
starting at six o'clock.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
It'll be a little chilly bring a jacket, but.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
The Cowboys in the Buccaneers final primetime game of the
year for the now as Cowboys get the opportunity. We
are outside this week with the fans having some fun
with everyone that's gonna tune in to.

Speaker 6 (48:05):
Come joyful and triumphant. A watch pretty game.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Lock just where you heard it? Think it's where your
turtleneck draws. Turtle Turtle? All right, Josh, who you got? Cowboys? Bucks?

Speaker 9 (48:19):
So I gotta just say the way Mike has been playing, man,
I can't bet against him, even though I kind of
want to.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
So I'm going Cowboys over the Bucks.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
We'll go a score of twenty eight twenty on this one.
Twenty guys twenty. Thanks for the quick call, Josh, you
are a lifesaver. Well done.

Speaker 6 (48:34):
The cult of personality I like them.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
That was great gool seems though.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
Chicago Patrick Cowboys going into their villain arc club we
talked about yesterday. Time to play spoiler for the next
three weeks. They knock off the books. Twenty four to
twenty one.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
You think it happens.

Speaker 5 (48:51):
Just have some fun, man, Yeah, I'm playing. I'm playing
fast and loose right now. Let's have some fun. Cool
twenty one.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
I'm gonna take Tampa Bay. Unfortunately, I don't want to
pick Tampa Bay.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
I think you're doing it. I think Dallas it's a business.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
I'm trying to catch Patrick the whenever it comes to
playing at home, I really think the Cowboys are due.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
I think this is going to be a really good game.
I think it's gonna be back and forth.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
But at the end, just like against Cincinnati, there's gonna
be some sort of misque that's gonna lead the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers to an opportunity and they're gonna take full advantage.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Give me the Bucks. Twenty seven to twenty three at
AT and T Stadium.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
Mike Evans goes for one hundred and seventy eight yards
two touchdowns to Bay wins tamar Chase territory.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Yeah, he's gonna go off.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
They're gonna feed the crap out of him.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Probably he is on my fantasy team, but so telling
us they're gonna run all over yesterday.

Speaker 6 (49:46):
Come on, man, picks all right, both both of them,
both of the Dallas Cowboys. Thirty four, twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Let's do it.

Speaker 6 (49:55):
No, get to win, No, we get it done.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
I'm cool with that. It'd be great we get a
team that home shootout.

Speaker 6 (50:01):
We need it.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
It'll feel like twenty twenty two again. If we get
like a back and forth and a shootout.

Speaker 6 (50:05):
We're closing the season off in the right way. We're
gonna win this game. We're gonna beat Philly and maybe
we'll lose them.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
What man, at the end of the year.

Speaker 6 (50:12):
That's fine, that's fine as long as we beat Philly.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Man, guys for a pre Christmas Eve special next week, Yes,
little little Christmas Eve action almost pre Christmas Eve, because yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
We may be doing a show on Christmas Eve. We
to talk about it, maybe, but we are not back
tomorrow being the booting.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
Next week, ladies and gentlemen, I will be back in
the studio after the holiday week. I will be traveling
to spend time with family home.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Oh wow, yeah, talking Cowboys family clip it mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
I almost said.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
For isaiahs stand back, Josh Rodriguez, for Chris Beam in
the back of Kyle Yomen saying so long, We'll see
you next week.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Go Cowboys, take down those pirates in AT and T Stadium.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
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