March 24, 2026 • 51 mins
Kyle Youmans, Isaiah Stanback, and Josh Rodriguez break down the latest Cowboys news, including recent roster moves and continued questions at linebacker as free agency winds down. With the draft one month away, the crew debates best-player-available scenarios before putting their evaluations to the test in a Blind Resume game across key defensive positions.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The following.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
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the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Cowboys. This he's Talking Cowboys, screening live from the Dallas
Cowboys World headquarters at the Star in Frisco.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Tag Boarders here.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Tscot Ti TI, touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback,
Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, and Kyle Yeomans.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
It's a one month out from the NFL Draft edition
of Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company, live
from the Star in Frisco, Texas, in.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
The BC Studios. Welcome in everybody.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
We've got Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah Standback, Chris Beam in the back.
I'm Kyle Yeoman so glad you're with us. What is that, Josh?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I think it's the Star magazine draft guy.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I think this might be like the debut of it.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It's the debut.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I don't think it's even been released. This is definitely
a sneak peek. This is what you get on Talking
Cowboys is a nice.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Little breaking news.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
That is the cover on there of the twenty twenty
six NFL Draft Guide by the Cowboys Star Magazine personnel.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Who contributed to that magazine.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Call, I did, really, you know who take this up with?
Speaker 5 (01:31):
You want to know who wanted to put the organ
duck on.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
The front Me. It was and it was only for you.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
I did it for you.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
No, I did it because Dylan Thieneman has a chance
to be a Cowboy at least when we decided this magazine,
he had a bigger chance probably, But I still don't
necessarily think it's out of the conversation.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Well is on the cover.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Call.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
So you got Ruben bain Down on the bottom left
hand corner, the edge rusher out of Miami. To us right,
You've got David Bailey, the edge rusher out of Texas Tech.
Then you've got Caleb Downs, Ohio State Safety. He's on
the far left hand side. Then you got Monsieur Delaine
over the top in the LSU gear. You got Sunny
Styles in the gray Ohio State uniform, and then Dylan
(02:12):
Theenum in there in the middle. Those are the cover
athletes for this year's Cowboys Star magazine. Draft Guy available
online shortly, I maybe within the next week, but it's
in pro shops starting today. Oh if you come in
person to any of the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Pro shop locations. I believe in the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Leave with one. You can leave with one of these
dress magazine. Do any of those guys make it out
the top twelve?
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Any of them make it out of the top twelve,
like beyond?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Do the theenemon does? Probably? Yeah? Yeah, theenem In probably is. Uh.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
The other guys probably not. Bain Maybe because of the
short arm, somebody might get a little worried.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
But that's my thing is if he ends up going
to twelve, his.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Arms are really short, Kyle, they are very almost too short,
too short to play.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
The team shouldn't even look at it, idn't even touch.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Them because you want them to end up here.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Shut up.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Shit.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
It is thirty days out from the NFL Draft, which
means this is right around the time we're on Talking Cowboys,
we start talking draft stuff and you know whatever started
just better or start getting your film in with draft experts, and.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
We just started talking about it over there in the
in the breakfast hall. That means it's almost time for practice.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah, I mean we're what two weeks away practice from
from actually hitting the field, five weeks away now from
hitting the field with rookie mining camp and then OTAs
and then we're right back into practice time.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I love that. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Speaking of March madness, it's gonna be madness by the
time we get around to May, and I'm not ready
for it yet. I'm just trying to hang out and
get the draft stuff right.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
But I know, and you got two draft experts here
in Isaiah stand back and drafting Kyle not as much,
not as much. But if those wondering why we're missing
Patrick no Cy Walker, he's having surgery today. If you
didn't last week, he had an injury, a baseball injury.
But he is getting surgery today. He will be back,
no doubt about it. Patrick knowsy Walker will return.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Show some love to no Sea in a chat. He
looks at the chat, so y'all show him man some
love and give him some support. Surgeries are scary things, right,
It's not a for sure thing. You know. People go
in and they just assume that everything's gonna be okay.
We are praying that everything's gonna be okay. But y'all
send him some love because he definitely needs to feel
the fam.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Yeah, we got to talk to him a little bit yesterday.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
He was in good, good Spirits was confident of course
in the process, but man.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, it's always tough. No sea confident always, that's what
the C stands for. Confident. But he is confident, yes.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Patrick, Yes, confident Walker.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That's it right off the tongue.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
It rolls. This one rolls, baby.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
All right, let's get into some news and notes, a
couple of different things to keep in tabs with UH
in terms of the Cowboys and what they did this
past week, start with some of the guys that left Dallas.
Speaker 7 (05:08):
A notable name missing from that list, Kyle, I don't
think we got to talk about him last week, Okay,
Jalen Tolbert goes to the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Oh yeah, I think it happened before I show last week,
but we didn't talk about it.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I don't think we talked about it.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
Yeah, not a big topic of conversation last week.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I mean you talked about some over two years ago.
Was your leading touchdown? Yeah? Yeah, seven two years ago.
And I know he's never he has never been the
big name around here, but put some respect on what
he did two seasons ago. He led your team in touchdowns,
which is I don't care what you feel about him.
(05:43):
That was huge for him. Obviously last year somebody came
and took a spot. That's what this league is about.
It is about competition. And now he finds himself not
being reinstated here with the Cowboys, but he gets an
opportunity with another team, right, And that's the thing you
interview for thirty one other teams which put on film,
somebody most likely is going to be appreciative of it
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and feel as if you can be a contributor to
them in their program. So now him and Malik will
let's get to become best buds.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
I thought it's interesting that he's probably one of your
top receivers for Miami now considering the trade that they
had last week. But it's tough because Tolbert, like you said,
contributed in touchdowns the year prior last year and a
contract year lost his job to Ryan Flinoy. I think
that more show more so says what Flinoy was able
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to do and how he's able to make that leap
in a second year. But for me, at least, Tolbert
was kind of more the same. He was a reliable
pass catcher at times, he made a lot of really
clutch receptions. For you, but I don't think the run
blocking was there. I don't think the you know, the
mantra last year was compete every day. I don't think
that he was necessarily. I'm sure he was competing, but
(06:51):
I just mean like he was obviously overtaken by Illinoy
and probably the biggest reason why he's not here as
a number four receiver because Flinoyd took that job.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Yeah, let me start by saying, I enjoyed covering Jalen Tolbert,
and he was always very good to us, and he
was always somebody that was willing to talk and was
very insightful when we had those conversations, and he was
very open about some of the hard stuff too, especially
like early in his career when he was talking about
how he didn't feel like he connected enough with Dak
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and he wanted to be a right hand man to
him and be a reliable target. And he did to
a certain extent build himself into that at certain points
in the year.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
But the consistency was a problem. I mean, he had flashes.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
He had one of the best catches of the twenty
twenty five season on the sideline against the Packers.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Late in that game.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
He made plays and he's capable of doing so. But
the consistency was where it fell short, and it was
it was one. If it wasn't one thing, it was
another thing. If it wasn't the connected connection with Dak Prescott,
it was a lingering injury. If it wasn't a legering injury,
it was his understanding of a scheme of a play
calling standpoint or a loss assignment. Or he wasn't blocking
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well so he wasn't getting playing time. When it gets
down to that, that's where I tend to have less
of a patience with a wide receiver who was a top.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
One hundred pick.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
He was picked eighty eighth overall in a time where
Dallas really needed another wide receiver to step up, and
they anticipated him to do that immediately. And I loved
his college tape out of South Alabama. I was very
much so a high proponent and a high supporter of
drafting Jaylen Tolbert in the third round there, so at
that point I thought he would come in and contribute,
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and he did, but not to the level that you
would anticipate from a third round guy. And then you
get a guy like Ryan Filinoy who comes out after
being a later round pick and does exactly what you
needed Jayaln Tolbert to do. And now he's kind of
the one that overstepped him. And that's why Jaylen Tolbert
is no longer a Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
Yeah, and I didn't mean to turn this into talking Tolbert,
but I think it was worth mentioning because of the
contributions that he's made as a Dallas Cowboy. You've won
games because of James Colbert, Like there's no out about that,
that game winning uh touchdown in Pittsburgh, Like, I will
big one to you for a long time. It was
a big play by him. But uh yeah, moving on
to some other names. I mean brock Hoffman as well.
He signed with the Pittsburgh yesterday officially.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Is that is that a fisial the table? I like Hoffman.
I understand that, you know, obviously they want to move
on from him. I trust this coaching staff because they
have two offensive line coaches on this coaching staff, so
it's not just one person making this decision. I'm sure
that they came together and collectively said, yeah, we both
feel the same way about this particular thing or his
this particular shortcoming or this lack of development in this
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particular area, and they felt confident enough to move on
from him. Losing him and Rob Jones doesn't necessarily make
me feel awesome in terms of depth. Those are those
are I would have liked to have retained at least
one of those guys. And people will look at Rob
Jones and be like, well, he never even had a
chance to play here. Yeah, he got hurt early in camp, right, Yeah,
and he.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
Got hurt helping other like rookie linemen that that presence. Yeah,
it's a terrible circumstance, but he was showing out in
camp to a point where I was like, I'm surprised
this guy's not starting. I would be surprised if this
guy is not starting in week one. Granted that the
line was what it was at the time, but yeah,
it's a sucky situation when he goes to a rival
(10:16):
at that and then.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Peyton Turner goes to Detroit.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
So those are three guys that were on the back half,
and with Turner and Jones, both of the guys, those
guys never really ended up playing just because of injury
and what ended up happening there. But they are all
off the roster. Cowboys did re sign Corey Ballentine, who
came on late in the year last year, that that
was really kind of their one addition or retainment in
(10:39):
the roster this past week. Are you guys a little
disappointed on the back end?
Speaker 7 (10:46):
Okay, maybe more than a little, Yeah, maybe more than
a little.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
How much would you equate it to what would you
equate your disappointment?
Speaker 7 (10:56):
You know that meme where it's like the guy that's
like poking the thing with a stick, Just do something,
do something.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I feel like that.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
I have felt like that the last two weeks because
you have still not addressed linebacker in any former fashion.
I'm very frustrated with that. Obviously, they have a plan
going into the draft, but like we've talked about here
the last three episodes, it would be nice to have
a veteran presence behind there, a coach on the field
that is able to contribute to the linebacker room and
also be a solid player at that I'm not saying,
(11:24):
you know, it needs to be a world beat or
anything like that, but you just need consistency there, and
you don't have size to speak of at linebackers.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
So I'm just very.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
Confused at the approach there. But you know the Christian
Parker's defense, he obviously has a plan.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
I don't have that ball knowledge at this point, but
to me, it is just frustrating that I feel that
position currently has been undervalued in free agency. I know
they attempted to go get their guys, but I mean, I,
along with most of the of the fans, feel like,
you know, there should have been a backup plan. At
(12:00):
least you should have at least three or four guys
that you would have gone to get had the one
player that went to the Raiders not worked out for you.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, it's very difficult for me to foresee Dallas moving
forward through this draft utilizing both first round picks now
in the draft to acquire two players. With the lack
of acquisitions that they've had this offseason, I can't foresee.
(12:31):
I can't foresee them utilizing both picks and being okay
with the remainder of the picks they have in this
year's draft to fill the voids that are on defense.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
And you have one Day two pick now, I mean
one one.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So you know what I'm saying, Like I was hopeful
whether they are big names or just you know. I
think they did a good job of feeling positional needs
in terms of contributors, right. We made that. We had
that conversation, right, either you're going to get big name,
big spla guys or I felt like they were after
like that first wave. I was like, Okay, they're no
longer going to go get a big splash guy, but
(13:05):
they're gonna get multiple guys that can contribute right consistently.
And I feel like they started doing that right. You
got a safety, I got a nickel, all those things. However,
there are still a lot of voids that are that
need to be filled, especially with the change in scheme. Defensively,
those positions of need are nowhere near near field, and
(13:29):
I can't I can see them using the first picking
the in the first round that we have. Was it twelve? Yep?
But was it? The next one is twenty twenty. I
can't see them using one in twenty. I are twelve
and twenty. I can see them using twelve.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
You're saying you would use it to go get you
have to approve in commodity.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I think that you have to trade one of the
trade the twenty to go get multiple players in the
second and the third. I just don't there's not a
saying to acquire more, to acquire more draft you because
you just don't have enough pieces. And if there are
guys that you believe that you this is what I believe.
I believe that they're going to try to go through
(14:07):
this draft and whatever decisions they're going to make, right,
I believe that they're going to try to feel those
voids after the draft like most teams do, right, they say, Hey,
let's see what our team looks like after the draft,
and then let's go fill those voys. I don't want
to be in that position again. I feel like I
told you this. I think that mister Jones and Steven
Jones are in this tug of war of mister Jones
really wanted to go want in two past tense now
(14:29):
to go grab some high, highly claim claimed guys, and
then Stephen Jones kind of pulled them back and kind
of pulled back to what we've always known Dallas to do,
is like, let's go to the discount double check, and
I feel like, there's this I want to do this.
I'm no, let's go back to our old way. No,
let's stay true to who we are, but we and
now you find yourself in a position where it's like, Okay, yeah,
you made a couple moves, but you're still looking at
(14:51):
saying we still don't have enough guys.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah. I think the plan was there.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
I think the plan was there to go get the
guys that you're talking about, the guys that that.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You would think Dallas would want to.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
I mean, obviously the interest was there for several guys,
but there wasn't that final like we're gonna make that
final bid to get this guy because this is the
guy that we want contributing on our defense next year.
To me, I would have used free agency to kind
of fill out the room. Granted, you're overpaying in a
lot of positions, but I think there are guys that
are contributing and not getting paid, you know, an exorbitant
(15:22):
amount of money. I feel like you could have filled
those holes enough to say, like today, if we're playing
a game today.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
We're not playing a game today.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Obviously, but it's like we have a roster we feel
solidly enough about playing today if we had to, and
then using the draft to get even better guys to
take you over the top that didn't happen. You're now
relying on the draft yet again to get those guys
on the field, and you're relying on youth in a
big way.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah, And I think you bring up a good point
talking about the plan that was there. I believe going
into free agency they were willing to spend, and they
spent more than they have in the past, so I
give them a little bit credit. There is the high
end stuff that we kind of wanted to see. No,
was it the crazy moves that they wanted to make, No,
(16:07):
it wasn't. However, I agree with you in the fact
that there's kind of a fundamental breakdown somewhere in free agency.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
And I forgot who said it.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Somebody said it the other day, and I agreed with
part of what they were saying.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Part of it I didn't agree with.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
But what I did agree with was when you haven't
been in free agency, players in free agency recently, and
you all of a sudden decide to go play in
free agency after not doing so for the better part
of a decade, there's going to be things and nuances
and negotiation tactics that you aren't sharp on.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
And that's what ultimately happened.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
In my opinion.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I think they did want to get involved. I think
they wanted to push for all of this based on
not just conversations that we had with Jerry on the
bus or Steven Indianapolis, but the top to bottom, the
entire organization felt like they were going to make some moves,
and I think they attempted to do so, or they
wanted to do so, but there's a fundamental breakdown at
some point in time where they decided to make a move,
(17:11):
but they weren't ready.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
To make a move, if that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Yeah, and that's where I think there was a falling
through the cracks. Now you added some solid names. I
love the Jalen Thompson signing. I've said that already.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I like what they did with Kobe Durant and with
o Tito Albonna. I like those signings.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Are they as good as going and getting a blue
chip drusher, which they haven't done, or a starting caliber
linebacker which they haven't done.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
No, it's not.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Those are good moves that are going to make your
team better in the long run, but you need other
moves to supplement that outside of the draft, and they
haven't done that. So that's where my disappointment lies in
the off season.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I look at it is a math equation to me. Right,
you lost a number of starters or you know you
lost Osa was a starter, Solomon was a rotational guy.
Who else did we lose?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
But what was also starter in this defense?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Right? No? I mean he probably has he would have
would have because of his price. Right. But so you
so you replace you swap Osa with a Rashan Gary,
You acquire a Thompson who's a starter. You acquire PJ.
Lock who's a starter. You acquire Kobe Durant who's a starter,
and O Tito is a starter, I would imagine right now, Okay,
(18:21):
right now, so you have four starters that you brought
in on a defensive side of the ball. All good stuff,
all good stuff. Okay, So now as well, you know
what I'm saying. So now you go into the draft,
you're gonna your your number twelve pick is gonna be
another starter, okay on defense. Okay, So now that'll be
how many five starters? That'd be five starters that you
(18:42):
acquired going into this season that you did not have
last season. You're gonna need I feel like you're there's
so many more holes to fill right. So I'm saying
like that that number twenty. I feel like as much
as you can go grab another impact player, you can
get one impact player, But what does your depth take
a hit on? You know what I mean? I mean,
so I don't know what a twentieth is worth.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
And that's that's where I have the same agreement with
you here, because all the guys you're adding are starters.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
But are they blue chip starters. No they're not. They're good,
solid players. So that's where you could have depth if.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
You end up getting those blue chip guys. You end
up getting those starters that are contributors right off the bat,
or veterans that know how to do it and have
been there and done that and.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Things of the sort.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
There are no more linebackers on the the NFL dot Com.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Top one hundred and one free agency.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Which that mays so sick, there's nothing there.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
It's just, yeah, that hurts me.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
You're in a bad spot at linebacker unless you I mean, yes,
you're at a bad spot at linebacker. But like, go
please just go get Bobby serious at this point, like
just go go get them cite somewhere.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
No, No, maybe it's a situation where he's waiting till
after the draft to find his value somewhere.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Don't let him have the pick of the litterate. Don't
let him. Don't let him. Like, seriously, you should have
had him three years ago. You know what I'm saying.
You should have had them three years ago. You chose
not to. You just you chose to extend vander Ash. Yeah,
that's that was your choice. It was vander Ash or
Bobby Wagner. You you chose vander Ash. And now he's done,
Bobby's still going when you're thirty seven, it's still falling.
(20:22):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I think the league is waiting to see what Bobby
wants to do.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
No, I understand, and he deserves that right. And he's
going to be playing somewhere. He's gonna be starting somewhere
because he's just he's still playing at that level. Like,
just don't wait. Like you missed on the Lloyd, You
missed on all you know, Nikobe Dean, you missed on
all these other bona fide contributors and big time players.
Go get a guy that's still doing it. Like, is
he as young as you want?
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Heck?
Speaker 1 (20:46):
No, can he still play? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Either you know what I'm saying, Like, and even if
he doesn't play as much as he has in the past,
what he's going to give you is significant in its
own right. With the bang for the buck, right, he's
going to give you some quality snaps might I mean
as many snaps as they've had in the past.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
He's going to give him quality. And when he's not playing, you.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Know what, he is going to give you wisdom.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Knowledge and wisdom and all the the IQ that you
cannot teach from playing thirty seven years in the NFL,
like Bobby Wager has.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I've got to have that level. I just don't want
it to get to after the draft and everybody's trying
to make the same phone call, like I would much
rather get him, right, have him, and then go get
a linebacker in a draft, and now you feel good
about your front seven, right, and it's like, okay, now
we still need we still want to get one more
or two more pass rushers. Right, they can get out
of the quarterback, but at least you're not forcing things
into a position, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah, no, one hundred percent.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
And I feel like like you're saying, he has the
knowledge that will bring added value to the linebacker room,
especially when you're going there's no doubt you're going to
draft linebackers one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
You're going to do that.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Why not have a guy that can teach him how
to do? Like who better to learn from than a
Bobby Wager?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Come on, I mean, we can stand on the table
as much as we want inside the podcast studio, but
they al only are gonna have to want to do that.
And there have been so many opportunities in the past
where they could have added Bobby Waxes and they have
not done.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, so I come across your table. It's like dog
gonna being at the dog on a sushi restaurant. It's like,
should I get that thing on a little what do
you call it? The conveyor? Bet It's not a conveyor,
Betty goes by, But you had the second time sushi restaurants?
Is isay?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Are you going to get it wrong?
Speaker 7 (22:22):
How many times are you going to see him go
to another team and still contribute more so than any
of the linebackers you currently have in your team.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I agree, I agree with you, but now I'm sure
that I don't know if they do.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
There's a big reason why the Commanders don't have him
on their roster anymore. Sure, I mean he's he's he's
unreliable in coverage right now. Yeah, today's Bobby Wagner doesn't
do that very well.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
But you know what he does. He tackles and a
surefire tackle.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
We've we've talked about this before on the show too.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
A need into three four kind of maybe a little bit,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
But Christian Parker has been very It's been noted by
multiple people within the organization that he has a very
specific idea of what he wants. He's not going to
to to waiver on anything that he's doing building a roster.
He is going to get what he wants. And if
he doesn't want a Christian Parker made a Bobby Wagner type,
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then he's probably how.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Many draft picks this year? This year? Yes? Eight? Seven?
Seven or eight? And how many are eight now with
the trade? Okay, so eight draft picks? And how many
are below fourth or below fifth round? They've got four?
So you got four top fours or top four yea
in the top for five rounds something like that, right,
four picks in the top five rounds? Yeah, yeah, well
(23:40):
to one in the top five rounds two, one, three, four, Yeah,
and then you've got three fives. Okay, so Christian Parker,
you need to go get some more guys.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah, And of course it's like.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
That's not to say the guys in the draft are
going to come in and play right now, but the
probability is low. Like there's there's there's some teams put
more emphasis on rolling the dice on draft picks than others, right,
And I think what you're seeing right now is the
league is really starting to change and we're seeing this
within trades. There's been more trades than has ever been.
Teams are starting to rest their their their they're wallets
(24:15):
on proven players, right. It's not the discredit guys that
are coming through the draft that have to prove themselves.
And some guys may hit right now. Some guys may
hit on their second or third team.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
You don't you're.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Seeing you know, teams are tired of waiting, right, and
some teams are more tired than others. Go get you
a guy that you know, I know what he's going
to do. Right. It may not be everything I want,
but I know what the productive productivity I'm going to
get out of him. And then I go get the
guy that I hope turns into, you know, whatever it
is that we project them to be. I don't want
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to go hope, I really go no hope and too fair.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
I know we're talking a lot about Wagner, but there
are other guys that have been reported that the Cowboys
are interested in trading for. We can't necessarily name those
names right now, we can't talk about them, but I
underst standing there is a plan there. They're not saying
like we're not going to address itself.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
I think there was a plan agency too that was
Plan A, this Plan B, and this is kind of
what they're happening, or it might even be C or
do you who knows?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Well?
Speaker 4 (25:12):
They have a plan moving forward, but we just got
to find a way to make that happen, and whether
or not they're willing to part with some of these
draft picks to do so. I do want to talk
about the NFL Draft, and when we come back, I've
got a question about trades post draft and how that
may have influenced the way that the Cowboys attacked this
free agency and whether or not you guys agree with
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Now you know I have a beef, Kyle. I know
you did a beef. I know my fellow teammates up here.
You guys keep your eye on the chat during the show,
talking talking cowboys. Yeah, talking cowboys nation our fanly. We
love you guys, Yeah, we love you guys. I just
don't partake in the chat during the show. But these guys,
they they kind of pass a little birdie, play a
little game of telephone. Uh. And I was told that
(28:29):
Bobby Wagner conversations were erroneous.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Nonsense, nonsense.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I want people at home to understand. Yes, the NFL
will tell you oftentimes that you're old. The NFL will
tell you oftentimes that you're washed up. NFL will tell
you oftentimes that you don't have any more to give.
There are some outliers. I'm not sure if people a
lot of times when they tell you that they're probably right,
they're probably right. But there's certain guys that gotta come
(28:58):
along that really don't know along with that. Bobby Wagner
is one of them. Bobby Wagner in his fourteenth season.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Fourteen at linebacker that seems like a lot.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
At linebacker, interior linebacker, fourteenth season for the Washington Commanders
last year, played all seventeen games. Availability is kind of important, right,
Best ability is availability seventeen games as a linebacker somebody
who's responsible for hitting people and placed fifth overall in
the NFL and tackles in.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
The NFL like all.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
The players, I mean, even the guys that are like
rookies and like fourteen years younger, fourteen years less wearing
tear fifth. So when you guys are questioning whether or
not this is somebody that the Dallas Cowboys should be considering,
you might want to just check the rap sheet aka
no ian, But the check the rap sheet, because this
duke is still a ball, and if you got one
(29:52):
year out of him with half of that productivity, you're winning, yes,
Because what I'm saying is you can spend a twelve
on a linebacker that you consider to be a sure
thing that was a dog in college. You can spend
a twenty on that. But below that, no disrespect, you're
probably hoping and rolling the dice that that person's gonna
(30:13):
hit right, No disrespect to all the other draft picks,
especially in this year's draft where it's pretty deep, right,
You're you're kind of questioning whether or not that person
can come in and be that guy. Some guys can,
some guys can't. Why have that question mark when you
can for sure get somebody who is a great person
right at, a great contributor in a community, great locker
(30:35):
room guy, and a great contributor on the field, And
it's gonna hit you for the It's gonna hit you
for the lo.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Low yeah, lower than you would get a younger cat
that does all that stuff, all the same stuff. Now,
just to be completely fair, the same person that did
call it nonsense in the chat did reply and said,
if I'm Bobby, I want a chance before retirement to win,
not come to this type of situation, and he used it.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
You can say that about every squad, like genuinely, like, yeah,
the Cowboys, have they done anything in the past that
make you feel good about them going towards next year's
Super Bowl. No, but you can't. You can't say that
for sure thing about any of these teams around the league.
Teams are turning over their rosters left and right. We
had more coaching in vacancies than than we've had in
last fifteen years. Like, there's gonna be teams that pop
(31:21):
up that are going to be contribute, you know, gonna
be competitors and real you know, real conversation in terms
of the playoffs that that weren't there last year. So
to make that statement is it's kind of like saying,
you know, peanut butter and jelly go together.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Yeah, I mean the Seattle situation makes it a lot
more different. I mean, they turn their team around in
one year. Yeah, in one year. You're telling me that
a lot of teams don't think they can do that.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
They also drafted really well, absolutely, or look at the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Look at the Patriots and what do we know from
the draft show teams at drafting?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah dude, yeah, yeah, Patriots worth that three and fourteen
or whatever it was to the Super Bowl. Like come on, man,
like stuff changes in a year. So like that's erroneous
to make this no disrespect. Yeah, let's go into the
draft a little bit here.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Cowboys did have some guys out on the draft trail yesterday.
These are all reports, some of them confirmed by cameras.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
On site, others others not camera.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Yeah, Schottenheimer, Christian Parker, Will McClay, we're all at the
Miami Pro day yesterday with some of the notable products there.
Of course Ruben Bain, who's on the draft cover Draft
Guide cover right there, mister Baine, a key messidor another
edge rusher from there.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
You think that they help linebackers. You think they drove
to Miami. I'm just wondering. No, no, no commercial, noj Yeah.
I mean I was waiting those TSA lines coming.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Yeah, they're skipping that.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
They're going right to the tarmac, big dog the Uh.
But yeah, Kyante Scott another late round secondary player that
I really like, is from Miami, and there's a there's
a lot of really good talent there. So they were
out there yesterday. Not the only place that the Cowboys
have been. If you really want to keep up the
day with all the reports on where Pep Will have been, uh,
I encourage you to follow Nick Harris and Tommy Yurs.
(33:03):
Those are kind of the two guys that are on
the pro day trail at the moment. Tommy is actually
at Texas Pro Day right now.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
He drives. He did drive, no PJ.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
He did not get Sorry, Tommy, get your butt down
to Austin.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
He went to school there. You're fine. Yeah, you may
have this.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Khaki's all the way down.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Speaking of walking uh down down I thirty five. Linda Wells,
I don't think he'd I don't think he had the
private jet either. Linda, the tight ends coach, was reported
to have dinner with some of the Baylor draft prospects,
including tight end Michael Trigg the quarterback, saw your Robertson
and then Josh Robertson the wide receiver or Josh Cameron
(33:47):
Cameron the wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I like to mention that from Baylor probably one of
the best offseason retainments. I don't want to say acquisitions
that we had.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Oh yeah, we getting Lunda a lot of love on
the show.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Ye dub almost left, he was on was gone. Yeah,
he almost joined the McCarthy era out there, like seriously,
like that that wasn't his only possibility either. I'm I'm
pretty sure he had options. Oh he did, and I'm
pretty sure he chose to stay here. So Cowboys Nation,
whatever happens on the back And because we're not we're
not heavy to those conversations or negotiations like give a
(34:22):
give a nice little handclap to the to the front
office for finding a way to retain him, because to
keep to stay as a tight ends coach when you
had offensive coordinator presented to you, m something happened to
keep him here. I'll just say that and yeah, kudos.
I wonder what that could mean. Uh.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I want to continue with with draft stuff here though,
because based on our conversation in the first segment, I
feel like all three of us sit here and we
say best player available is always the goal.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
When it comes to the NFL draft.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Nope, you want to take the you want to take
the best player available. However, when you have holes on
your defense, you are limited in what the best player
available pool looks like. You can't just pluck from the pool.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
When you have to pick a specific type of fish,
you have to you have to.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
So you're still going to see probably the best defensive
player on the board and where they would fit are
there any limitations based on your mindset of where they
can and cannot go with the twelfth and twenty picks
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Draft limitations, Yes, I would say you do not need
to grab an interior defensive lineman with those with the
first round picks. Don't don't grab it for you know,
you know how I feel about my interior D lineman.
But I don't think that you need to. I think
that you have your two dogs. We'll see what Otito provides,
but you have two true proven dogs on the anterior
(35:53):
D line. You have other needs that you can use
those picks work. So I would not feel great if
they went out and grabbed an interior D lineman at
that pick. Would you know I would still be okay
with it? But I was like, ah, you could use
that to a linem. I could use that the grab
a dominant corner, use that you grab a D N like.
I think those are the three positions that I would
feel better about than interior D line.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Would you be cool making a move for a defensive
tackle at ninety two with that pick you got for Mosa,
kind of replace it with another defensive tackle that fits
your scheme better.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
No, Okay, no, I I want depth. I want depth,
but not with those picks.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Okay, I would be entirely fine with it. Honestly.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
One of the arguments that we had last year when
we're arguing about edge rusher versus defensive.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Tackle, your strength is super strength.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Make your strength the super strength.
Speaker 7 (36:41):
And the fact that you weren't able to extend Kenny
Clark or my goodness, Quentinn Williams this offseason, I think
is part of my philosophy there where it's like, you
don't know how much longer you have these guys, if
they're going to be here past next year, So, in
my opinion, like beef that up as much as you
possibly can and make it the dominant.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Force that it needs to be.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
Ipically all all, for all intents and purposes, we've from
what we've learned about Christie Parker's defense so far and
all of the moves that they've made, you're not gonna
be able.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
To run the ball in this team.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
So to me, make it even more of a of
a competition there at defensive tackle. But uh, oh, Tito,
considering he's more of a deaf guy. Now, if you
draft a guy higher, yeah, make that that strength even more.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Uh, I would typically agree with you on almost probably
ninety plus. But because there are actual holes like there,
I get it. There are not guys currently on this
roster that I feel comfortable and confident with feeling some
of these voids with this new system. And though he
said we're gonna be versatile, we're gonna be We're gonna
(37:46):
be multiple in the looks. And you want kind of
Swiss army knives guys that could play multiple positions on
this defense. You want an outside linebacker that could play
you know, they could play you know, out, you know,
I don't even know safety, and safety that could play corner.
Like you want guys that are kind of multiple, I want.
I want guys that can give some flex And if
you're playing an interior DEFENSI alignment, you're just playing interior
(38:07):
defense alignment.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
I think you have the luxury of doing that with
two first round picks. If you decide to use both
of those first round picks, I think you're able to
take the best player available, regardless of the position.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Maybe not quarterback, maybe not sure.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
So you would be okay using a first round pick
on a backup, A backup. What that's what I'm saying, like,
if you grab an interior defensilignment, they're a backup.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
If you're grabbing an offensive player, with the exception of
maybe running back, it would maybe be a backup.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Guys, I'm talking defense here, Yeah, I'm talking.
Speaker 7 (38:36):
So that's play's defensive player available.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
I thought not sit here, and over the course of
me covering the draft for this organization, multiple times we've
said they have no choice but to take defense only
in the first round, in the first three rounds, and
then take offensive players in the first round. I can't
sit here and say that it's off the table for
Dallas entirely.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
It's not.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
They could upgrade their offensive tackle spot if the right
guy is there.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
They could add to wide receiver if.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
They don't feel confident that George Pickens is gonna stick around.
They could add Jeremiah Love at the running back spot.
Maybe not at twelve, but at twenty if he's there, Holy.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Cow, would that be fun. Grab a kicker.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
I'm just now, I'm just saying, like, as much as
we sit here and we're gonna pigeonhole defense all the
way through, and I completely agree, Yeah, we cannot take
it off the table.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
No, it's not off the table. It's just on the edge.
It's just light bump is knocking it off. Yeah, exactly,
just like that, just like that, like that. Yeah, No,
I'm it's.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Like season to broccoli. It's it's over there there, it's there.
Speaker 7 (39:39):
I'm gonna be like on seasoned broccoli, unseasoned dude, what
are you doing?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Hold cold brocky?
Speaker 3 (39:44):
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Speaker 4 (39:46):
Yeah, all right, we got to take our second break.
When we come back. I'm gonna play a little game
with these guys. How about blind resumes for NFL draft prospects.
Close your eyes and just imagine what they would fit
like in this down defense when we come back with
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Speaker 1 (42:23):
From the NF. Let's freaking go, Kyle. I know, I'm excited.
Whoo exciting. This is the best.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Lead in in the NFL calendar for me other than
training camp.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
I do love training camp. The last time the Cowboys
had two first round picks two thousand and eight, I think, no, wow,
it's been a while.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
I shouldn't know that off the top of my head,
but I don't. All right, blind resumes. These are NFL
draft prospects that right now on my list are very
close in terms of rankings, maybe not draft grade, but rankings.
They're what we call touching tag, and they're different types
(43:02):
of players. So I want you to tell me what's
going to fit. Without talking about the name of the
prospector of the school, or what they went through or
did from a conference standpoint or anything like that. This
is just measurements and some tiny traits to think about
and what they would fit in Christian Parker's defense. So
start at linebacker, and we're trying to get through maybe
(43:23):
two positions here. The first linebacker is six foot one
two and thirty pounds and he's twenty one years old.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Got it all.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
He had eight tackles for loss three and a half
sacks eighty eight tackles in thirteen games against premium competition.
He did not test during the Combine or his pro
day because he had some knee swelling and he did
not want to inflammatory that, but he did go through drills.
He is listed as a green dot potential immediately and
(43:55):
can call the plays on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Feel pretty good about it. That are cool?
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Yeah, Green dots potential. The other linebacker, linebacker number two,
is six foot two, two forty pounds, so a little
bit bigger, a little bit taller than the last linebacker.
He is also twenty one years old. He did test.
He went four to five one in the forty. He
had a thirty seven inch vertical that's ten and a
half inch broad downhill runner, but a tendency.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
To over sell when he runs downhill and he attacks.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
You already got one of those.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
You got a couple of those.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
You got a couple of those.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
But those are your two options, linebacker one and the
linebacker two. If you have any questions, I will clarify,
but I will not give hints.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Speak through that one more time, okay, c J, I
let's breaking go. Well, I'll do it.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
For knocking goal.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
See that I was in his mind.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Not blind anymore.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Well darned. Yeah, we're so disappointing.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
I went through so much this you did to make
this happen.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
I was leaning towards number two? Were you I was?
Speaker 3 (45:07):
I was going number one. I don't want the green dot.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
You want the green dot potential.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
I want the green dot potential.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
They don't necessarily tab the second linebacker as a green
dot potential.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
But yes, J Allen is number one. That is a linebacker.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
I'll give you the linebacker too. I'll say six dogs,
six foot two two and forty.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Pounds, twenty one years old. Do you have any guesses?
I know you've listened to the draft show a little bit.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Yeah, yes, that Rodriguez.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
It is not right. He was another one. I was
thinking about putting in this organiza.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
Or putting in this, but I decided c J. Allen
and Rodriguez from like a testing and a side standpoint.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Are actually very comparable.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Is that the LSU guy?
Speaker 4 (45:42):
No, it is not the LSU guy. Okay, it is
Anthony Hill Junior out of Texas. That is the tomic
and linebacker picked the second he probably would have.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
But which one you would have leaned to. I would
have leaned to. Like, over aggressiveness doesn't bother me because
the only thing that you need for that is.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Great coaching discipline.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Yeah, like you, it's hard to get somebody to turn
that switch on if they don't have that switch. I'd
rather them have that switch and be able to pull
them back and say, hey, let the game come, do
you You know I'm saying, pick and choose your battles.
But like, if somebody does not have not to say that.
Most linebackers don't. But if you don't have that trigger,
you can't just copy and paste that into somebody's you know,
freaking genealogy.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
It's not there one hundred percent.
Speaker 7 (46:21):
But one of the things that I've kind of pulled
at least from the combine, one of the things that
they kept kind of repeating over and over, especially the
Christian Parker side of things, was brain works and to me,
that green Dot aspect, the fact that he was such
a cerebral player, to me is indication of where the
Cowboys would lean. And honestly, that was just a preference
for me to begin with.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
And there was a comment in the chat that I
kind of want to clarify a little bit here, Sonny
wants to said so Kyle, Christian Parker saying that after
the scheme or altering the scheme to your players was
just blowing smunk because he wants a specific type and
I said that in the last segment. He really wants
a specific type, specific type of player, not necessarily a
specific type of build.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Right, he wants the serementally, he wants the work ethic,
he wants all of that stuff. He's not going to
mess around with anything other than that. From a system
and an ex's and O standpoint, I think he is
going to mold to whatever they end up getting. Even
though a three to four is different. You're going to
have to find certain guys to fit into that three
four system here in year one because you've never really
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run that in the past. So that's where that's where
we're kind of basing the measurements off of compared to
the type of player that Christian Parker would want across
the board.
Speaker 5 (47:32):
All right, let's go to corner and I'm going to
try not to mess this one up.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
This timmer right right.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
All right, Corner number one, six foot, one hundred and
ninety three pounds. He does have long arms or longer arms,
I should say, thirty one and three eighths across the board.
Ran a four four four forty yard dash in the
NFL Combine, and he had a forty and a half vertical.
He's a ten and a half inch broad jump, and
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he plays with kind of the physicality of a box safety.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
It's at corner like that. I knew as soon as
you say he was six foot, I knew he had.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
To have he had to have some of those things
across the board. So that's corner number one, corner number two.
He is a little bit smaller, five foot eleven one
and eighty six pounds. He did not run, but he
did the jumps. He did thirty four inch vertical, ten
to three broad jump. He did bench as well. He
had seventeen reps on the bench across the board. Comes
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from some good bloodlines at the position, and he has
a blend of athleticism inside to play size, to play
inside or outside, and he did play both inside and
outside during his time.
Speaker 7 (48:42):
One would you argue the second one is undersized in
general or kind of the h what you already have currently.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
Like what you already have in terms of boundary corners. Yeah,
I would probably probably put him in the same category.
I would play him a nickel and I would love it, okay,
and I think he would be an awesome nickel.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Would you argue you already got your nickel.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
In Jalen Thompson.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
No, oh, in Kobe Durant, Yes, similar type of player,
but this guy says.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
More of a dog.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Give me option one.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Option one. Yes, that is Colton Hood out of Tennessee.
Colton Hood thought.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
To be maybe more of an option at twenty than
he would be at twelve. Yes, but still a very
viable cornerback option. Let's say you miss out on Monsor
de Laine at twelve, who's probably high and above the
number one corner in the NFL draft. If you miss
out on him at twelve and you miss it, let's
say you don't want to go with your mom McCoy.
Who's the other Tennessee corner who's coming off of an injury,
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hasn't played in a year, that kind of thing. Then
twenty could be where you take your corners, and that's
where Colton Hood. And then number two is x Avion
Terrell from Clemson, who I really do like and I
think he would be a phenomenal nickel and if you
need it him to go outside, I think he's Deron
Bland two point zero. That's who I think he and
I think he's more polished coming out of school.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Than versatility guys. They can play safety and cover. That's
what That's what I believe that Christian Parker is going for,
because you want to be multiples. You want to be
able to have three safeties in the back. You want
to be able to have you know, your nickel, your dime,
whatever it may be, no matter what the offense puts
out there. We have a guy that can cover you,
and we have a guy that can come up and hit. Yeah.
So a couple of different options for you? Which one
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we're watching one?
Speaker 4 (50:28):
You were leaning toward one, you were also leaning toward one. Okay,
there you go.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Well what about you? What would what would your I
have Colton Hood ranked higher.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Do you think he's going to be there twenty though?
Speaker 1 (50:40):
Yes, yeah, I think so. I think you would. I
have them touching tags.
Speaker 4 (50:43):
Colton Hood is my corner four, uh and Terrell is
my corner five okay, behind Delanne McCoy, and then I
have Brandon CSA at three. I think I might flip Hood,
depending on I want to watch a little bit more
tape of these guys, but I might flipped the two.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
But I have I have c say above Hood in Terrell. Nice.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
Thank you Kyle. I like that game.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
Yeah we may let's keep doing with that. Yeah as
we give along.
Speaker 5 (51:09):
That does it for us here on Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (51:11):
Hope to have Patrick back next week. Once again, well
wishes to our guys. He is probably out of surgery
by now, I would hope, but uh, we'll hope to
have him back very very soon.
Speaker 5 (51:20):
For Patrick, No see Walker, who's not here?
Speaker 4 (51:23):
Josh Rodriguez, we get for Isaiah stand back Chris Beam
in the back of Kyle Yeoman saying so long from
Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
We'll see you next week.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Cowboys. This he's Talking Cowboys, screening live from the Dallas
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
Tag Boarders here.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Tscot Ti TI, touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback,
Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, and Kyle Yeomans.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
It's a one month out from the NFL Draft edition
of Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company, live
from the Star in Frisco, Texas, in.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
The BC Studios. Welcome in everybody.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
We've got Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah Standback, Chris Beam in the back.
I'm Kyle Yeoman so glad you're with us. What is that, Josh?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I think it's the Star magazine draft guy.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I think this might be like the debut of it.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It's the debut.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I don't think it's even been released. This is definitely
a sneak peek. This is what you get on Talking
Cowboys is a nice.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Little breaking news.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
That is the cover on there of the twenty twenty
six NFL Draft Guide by the Cowboys Star Magazine personnel.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Who contributed to that magazine.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Call, I did, really, you know who take this up with?
Speaker 5 (01:31):
You want to know who wanted to put the organ
duck on.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
The front Me. It was and it was only for you.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
I did it for you.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
No, I did it because Dylan Thieneman has a chance
to be a Cowboy at least when we decided this magazine,
he had a bigger chance probably, But I still don't
necessarily think it's out of the conversation.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Well is on the cover.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Call.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
So you got Ruben bain Down on the bottom left
hand corner, the edge rusher out of Miami. To us right,
You've got David Bailey, the edge rusher out of Texas Tech.
Then you've got Caleb Downs, Ohio State Safety. He's on
the far left hand side. Then you got Monsieur Delaine
over the top in the LSU gear. You got Sunny
Styles in the gray Ohio State uniform, and then Dylan
(02:12):
Theenum in there in the middle. Those are the cover
athletes for this year's Cowboys Star magazine. Draft Guy available
online shortly, I maybe within the next week, but it's
in pro shops starting today. Oh if you come in
person to any of the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Pro shop locations. I believe in the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Leave with one. You can leave with one of these
dress magazine. Do any of those guys make it out
the top twelve?
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Any of them make it out of the top twelve,
like beyond?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Do the theenemon does? Probably? Yeah? Yeah, theenem In probably is. Uh.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
The other guys probably not. Bain Maybe because of the
short arm, somebody might get a little worried.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
But that's my thing is if he ends up going
to twelve, his.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Arms are really short, Kyle, they are very almost too short,
too short to play.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
The team shouldn't even look at it, idn't even touch.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Them because you want them to end up here.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Shut up.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Shit.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
It is thirty days out from the NFL Draft, which
means this is right around the time we're on Talking Cowboys,
we start talking draft stuff and you know whatever started
just better or start getting your film in with draft experts, and.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
We just started talking about it over there in the
in the breakfast hall. That means it's almost time for practice.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah, I mean we're what two weeks away practice from
from actually hitting the field, five weeks away now from
hitting the field with rookie mining camp and then OTAs
and then we're right back into practice time.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I love that. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Speaking of March madness, it's gonna be madness by the
time we get around to May, and I'm not ready
for it yet. I'm just trying to hang out and
get the draft stuff right.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
But I know, and you got two draft experts here
in Isaiah stand back and drafting Kyle not as much,
not as much. But if those wondering why we're missing
Patrick no Cy Walker, he's having surgery today. If you
didn't last week, he had an injury, a baseball injury.
But he is getting surgery today. He will be back,
no doubt about it. Patrick knowsy Walker will return.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Show some love to no Sea in a chat. He
looks at the chat, so y'all show him man some
love and give him some support. Surgeries are scary things, right,
It's not a for sure thing. You know. People go
in and they just assume that everything's gonna be okay.
We are praying that everything's gonna be okay. But y'all
send him some love because he definitely needs to feel
the fam.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Yeah, we got to talk to him a little bit yesterday.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
He was in good, good Spirits was confident of course
in the process, but man.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, it's always tough. No sea confident always, that's what
the C stands for. Confident. But he is confident, yes.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Patrick, Yes, confident Walker.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That's it right off the tongue.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
It rolls. This one rolls, baby.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
All right, let's get into some news and notes, a
couple of different things to keep in tabs with UH
in terms of the Cowboys and what they did this
past week, start with some of the guys that left Dallas.
Speaker 7 (05:08):
A notable name missing from that list, Kyle, I don't
think we got to talk about him last week, Okay,
Jalen Tolbert goes to the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Oh yeah, I think it happened before I show last week,
but we didn't talk about it.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I don't think we talked about it.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
Yeah, not a big topic of conversation last week.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I mean you talked about some over two years ago.
Was your leading touchdown? Yeah? Yeah, seven two years ago.
And I know he's never he has never been the
big name around here, but put some respect on what
he did two seasons ago. He led your team in touchdowns,
which is I don't care what you feel about him.
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That was huge for him. Obviously last year somebody came
and took a spot. That's what this league is about.
It is about competition. And now he finds himself not
being reinstated here with the Cowboys, but he gets an
opportunity with another team, right, And that's the thing you
interview for thirty one other teams which put on film,
somebody most likely is going to be appreciative of it
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and feel as if you can be a contributor to
them in their program. So now him and Malik will
let's get to become best buds.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
I thought it's interesting that he's probably one of your
top receivers for Miami now considering the trade that they
had last week. But it's tough because Tolbert, like you said,
contributed in touchdowns the year prior last year and a
contract year lost his job to Ryan Flinoy. I think
that more show more so says what Flinoy was able
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to do and how he's able to make that leap
in a second year. But for me, at least, Tolbert
was kind of more the same. He was a reliable
pass catcher at times, he made a lot of really
clutch receptions. For you, but I don't think the run
blocking was there. I don't think the you know, the
mantra last year was compete every day. I don't think
that he was necessarily. I'm sure he was competing, but
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I just mean like he was obviously overtaken by Illinoy
and probably the biggest reason why he's not here as
a number four receiver because Flinoyd took that job.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Yeah, let me start by saying, I enjoyed covering Jalen Tolbert,
and he was always very good to us, and he
was always somebody that was willing to talk and was
very insightful when we had those conversations, and he was
very open about some of the hard stuff too, especially
like early in his career when he was talking about
how he didn't feel like he connected enough with Dak
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and he wanted to be a right hand man to
him and be a reliable target. And he did to
a certain extent build himself into that at certain points
in the year.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
But the consistency was a problem. I mean, he had flashes.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
He had one of the best catches of the twenty
twenty five season on the sideline against the Packers.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Late in that game.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
He made plays and he's capable of doing so. But
the consistency was where it fell short, and it was
it was one. If it wasn't one thing, it was
another thing. If it wasn't the connected connection with Dak Prescott,
it was a lingering injury. If it wasn't a legering injury,
it was his understanding of a scheme of a play
calling standpoint or a loss assignment. Or he wasn't blocking
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well so he wasn't getting playing time. When it gets
down to that, that's where I tend to have less
of a patience with a wide receiver who was a top.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
One hundred pick.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
He was picked eighty eighth overall in a time where
Dallas really needed another wide receiver to step up, and
they anticipated him to do that immediately. And I loved
his college tape out of South Alabama. I was very
much so a high proponent and a high supporter of
drafting Jaylen Tolbert in the third round there, so at
that point I thought he would come in and contribute,
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and he did, but not to the level that you
would anticipate from a third round guy. And then you
get a guy like Ryan Filinoy who comes out after
being a later round pick and does exactly what you
needed Jayaln Tolbert to do. And now he's kind of
the one that overstepped him. And that's why Jaylen Tolbert
is no longer a Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
Yeah, and I didn't mean to turn this into talking Tolbert,
but I think it was worth mentioning because of the
contributions that he's made as a Dallas Cowboy. You've won
games because of James Colbert, Like there's no out about that,
that game winning uh touchdown in Pittsburgh, Like, I will
big one to you for a long time. It was
a big play by him. But uh yeah, moving on
to some other names. I mean brock Hoffman as well.
He signed with the Pittsburgh yesterday officially.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Is that is that a fisial the table? I like Hoffman.
I understand that, you know, obviously they want to move
on from him. I trust this coaching staff because they
have two offensive line coaches on this coaching staff, so
it's not just one person making this decision. I'm sure
that they came together and collectively said, yeah, we both
feel the same way about this particular thing or his
this particular shortcoming or this lack of development in this
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particular area, and they felt confident enough to move on
from him. Losing him and Rob Jones doesn't necessarily make
me feel awesome in terms of depth. Those are those
are I would have liked to have retained at least
one of those guys. And people will look at Rob
Jones and be like, well, he never even had a
chance to play here. Yeah, he got hurt early in camp, right, Yeah,
and he.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
Got hurt helping other like rookie linemen that that presence. Yeah,
it's a terrible circumstance, but he was showing out in
camp to a point where I was like, I'm surprised
this guy's not starting. I would be surprised if this
guy is not starting in week one. Granted that the
line was what it was at the time, but yeah,
it's a sucky situation when he goes to a rival
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at that and then.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Peyton Turner goes to Detroit.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
So those are three guys that were on the back half,
and with Turner and Jones, both of the guys, those
guys never really ended up playing just because of injury
and what ended up happening there. But they are all
off the roster. Cowboys did re sign Corey Ballentine, who
came on late in the year last year, that that
was really kind of their one addition or retainment in
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the roster this past week. Are you guys a little
disappointed on the back end?
Speaker 7 (10:46):
Okay, maybe more than a little, Yeah, maybe more than
a little.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
How much would you equate it to what would you
equate your disappointment?
Speaker 7 (10:56):
You know that meme where it's like the guy that's
like poking the thing with a stick, Just do something,
do something.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I feel like that.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
I have felt like that the last two weeks because
you have still not addressed linebacker in any former fashion.
I'm very frustrated with that. Obviously, they have a plan
going into the draft, but like we've talked about here
the last three episodes, it would be nice to have
a veteran presence behind there, a coach on the field
that is able to contribute to the linebacker room and
also be a solid player at that I'm not saying,
(11:24):
you know, it needs to be a world beat or
anything like that, but you just need consistency there, and
you don't have size to speak of at linebackers.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
So I'm just very.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
Confused at the approach there. But you know the Christian
Parker's defense, he obviously has a plan.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
I don't have that ball knowledge at this point, but
to me, it is just frustrating that I feel that
position currently has been undervalued in free agency. I know
they attempted to go get their guys, but I mean, I,
along with most of the of the fans, feel like,
you know, there should have been a backup plan. At
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least you should have at least three or four guys
that you would have gone to get had the one
player that went to the Raiders not worked out for you.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, it's very difficult for me to foresee Dallas moving
forward through this draft utilizing both first round picks now
in the draft to acquire two players. With the lack
of acquisitions that they've had this offseason, I can't foresee.
(12:31):
I can't foresee them utilizing both picks and being okay
with the remainder of the picks they have in this
year's draft to fill the voids that are on defense.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
And you have one Day two pick now, I mean
one one.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So you know what I'm saying, Like I was hopeful
whether they are big names or just you know. I
think they did a good job of feeling positional needs
in terms of contributors, right. We made that. We had
that conversation, right, either you're going to get big name,
big spla guys or I felt like they were after
like that first wave. I was like, Okay, they're no
longer going to go get a big splash guy, but
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they're gonna get multiple guys that can contribute right consistently.
And I feel like they started doing that right. You
got a safety, I got a nickel, all those things. However,
there are still a lot of voids that are that
need to be filled, especially with the change in scheme. Defensively,
those positions of need are nowhere near near field, and
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I can't I can see them using the first picking
the in the first round that we have. Was it twelve? Yep?
But was it? The next one is twenty twenty. I
can't see them using one in twenty. I are twelve
and twenty. I can see them using twelve.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
You're saying you would use it to go get you
have to approve in commodity.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I think that you have to trade one of the
trade the twenty to go get multiple players in the
second and the third. I just don't there's not a
saying to acquire more, to acquire more draft you because
you just don't have enough pieces. And if there are
guys that you believe that you this is what I believe.
I believe that they're going to try to go through
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this draft and whatever decisions they're going to make, right,
I believe that they're going to try to feel those
voids after the draft like most teams do, right, they say, Hey,
let's see what our team looks like after the draft,
and then let's go fill those voys. I don't want
to be in that position again. I feel like I
told you this. I think that mister Jones and Steven
Jones are in this tug of war of mister Jones
really wanted to go want in two past tense now
(14:29):
to go grab some high, highly claim claimed guys, and
then Stephen Jones kind of pulled them back and kind
of pulled back to what we've always known Dallas to do,
is like, let's go to the discount double check, and
I feel like, there's this I want to do this.
I'm no, let's go back to our old way. No,
let's stay true to who we are, but we and
now you find yourself in a position where it's like, Okay, yeah,
you made a couple moves, but you're still looking at
(14:51):
saying we still don't have enough guys.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah. I think the plan was there.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
I think the plan was there to go get the
guys that you're talking about, the guys that that.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You would think Dallas would want to.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
I mean, obviously the interest was there for several guys,
but there wasn't that final like we're gonna make that
final bid to get this guy because this is the
guy that we want contributing on our defense next year.
To me, I would have used free agency to kind
of fill out the room. Granted, you're overpaying in a
lot of positions, but I think there are guys that
are contributing and not getting paid, you know, an exorbitant
(15:22):
amount of money. I feel like you could have filled
those holes enough to say, like today, if we're playing
a game today.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
We're not playing a game today.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Obviously, but it's like we have a roster we feel
solidly enough about playing today if we had to, and
then using the draft to get even better guys to
take you over the top that didn't happen. You're now
relying on the draft yet again to get those guys
on the field, and you're relying on youth in a
big way.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah, And I think you bring up a good point
talking about the plan that was there. I believe going
into free agency they were willing to spend, and they
spent more than they have in the past, so I
give them a little bit credit. There is the high
end stuff that we kind of wanted to see. No,
was it the crazy moves that they wanted to make, No,
(16:07):
it wasn't. However, I agree with you in the fact
that there's kind of a fundamental breakdown somewhere in free agency.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
And I forgot who said it.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Somebody said it the other day, and I agreed with
part of what they were saying.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Part of it I didn't agree with.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
But what I did agree with was when you haven't
been in free agency, players in free agency recently, and
you all of a sudden decide to go play in
free agency after not doing so for the better part
of a decade, there's going to be things and nuances
and negotiation tactics that you aren't sharp on.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
And that's what ultimately happened.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
In my opinion.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I think they did want to get involved. I think
they wanted to push for all of this based on
not just conversations that we had with Jerry on the
bus or Steven Indianapolis, but the top to bottom, the
entire organization felt like they were going to make some moves,
and I think they attempted to do so, or they
wanted to do so, but there's a fundamental breakdown at
some point in time where they decided to make a move,
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but they weren't ready.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
To make a move, if that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Yeah, and that's where I think there was a falling
through the cracks. Now you added some solid names. I
love the Jalen Thompson signing. I've said that already.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I like what they did with Kobe Durant and with
o Tito Albonna. I like those signings.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Are they as good as going and getting a blue
chip drusher, which they haven't done, or a starting caliber
linebacker which they haven't done.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
No, it's not.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Those are good moves that are going to make your
team better in the long run, but you need other
moves to supplement that outside of the draft, and they
haven't done that. So that's where my disappointment lies in
the off season.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I look at it is a math equation to me. Right,
you lost a number of starters or you know you
lost Osa was a starter, Solomon was a rotational guy.
Who else did we lose?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
But what was also starter in this defense?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Right? No? I mean he probably has he would have
would have because of his price. Right. But so you
so you replace you swap Osa with a Rashan Gary,
You acquire a Thompson who's a starter. You acquire PJ.
Lock who's a starter. You acquire Kobe Durant who's a starter,
and O Tito is a starter, I would imagine right now, Okay,
(18:21):
right now, so you have four starters that you brought
in on a defensive side of the ball. All good stuff,
all good stuff. Okay, So now as well, you know
what I'm saying. So now you go into the draft,
you're gonna your your number twelve pick is gonna be
another starter, okay on defense. Okay, So now that'll be
how many five starters? That'd be five starters that you
(18:42):
acquired going into this season that you did not have
last season. You're gonna need I feel like you're there's
so many more holes to fill right. So I'm saying
like that that number twenty. I feel like as much
as you can go grab another impact player, you can
get one impact player, But what does your depth take
a hit on? You know what I mean? I mean,
so I don't know what a twentieth is worth.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
And that's that's where I have the same agreement with
you here, because all the guys you're adding are starters.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
But are they blue chip starters. No they're not. They're good,
solid players. So that's where you could have depth if.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
You end up getting those blue chip guys. You end
up getting those starters that are contributors right off the bat,
or veterans that know how to do it and have
been there and done that and.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Things of the sort.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
There are no more linebackers on the the NFL dot Com.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Top one hundred and one free agency.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Which that mays so sick, there's nothing there.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
It's just, yeah, that hurts me.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
You're in a bad spot at linebacker unless you I mean, yes,
you're at a bad spot at linebacker. But like, go
please just go get Bobby serious at this point, like
just go go get them cite somewhere.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
No, No, maybe it's a situation where he's waiting till
after the draft to find his value somewhere.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Don't let him have the pick of the litterate. Don't
let him. Don't let him. Like, seriously, you should have
had him three years ago. You know what I'm saying.
You should have had them three years ago. You chose
not to. You just you chose to extend vander Ash. Yeah,
that's that was your choice. It was vander Ash or
Bobby Wagner. You you chose vander Ash. And now he's done,
Bobby's still going when you're thirty seven, it's still falling.
(20:22):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I think the league is waiting to see what Bobby
wants to do.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
No, I understand, and he deserves that right. And he's
going to be playing somewhere. He's gonna be starting somewhere
because he's just he's still playing at that level. Like,
just don't wait. Like you missed on the Lloyd, You
missed on all you know, Nikobe Dean, you missed on
all these other bona fide contributors and big time players.
Go get a guy that's still doing it. Like, is
he as young as you want?
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Heck?
Speaker 1 (20:46):
No, can he still play? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Either you know what I'm saying, Like, and even if
he doesn't play as much as he has in the past,
what he's going to give you is significant in its
own right. With the bang for the buck, right, he's
going to give you some quality snaps might I mean
as many snaps as they've had in the past.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
He's going to give him quality. And when he's not playing, you.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Know what, he is going to give you wisdom.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Knowledge and wisdom and all the the IQ that you
cannot teach from playing thirty seven years in the NFL,
like Bobby Wager has.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I've got to have that level. I just don't want
it to get to after the draft and everybody's trying
to make the same phone call, like I would much
rather get him, right, have him, and then go get
a linebacker in a draft, and now you feel good
about your front seven, right, and it's like, okay, now
we still need we still want to get one more
or two more pass rushers. Right, they can get out
of the quarterback, but at least you're not forcing things
into a position, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah, no, one hundred percent.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
And I feel like like you're saying, he has the
knowledge that will bring added value to the linebacker room,
especially when you're going there's no doubt you're going to
draft linebackers one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
You're going to do that.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Why not have a guy that can teach him how
to do? Like who better to learn from than a
Bobby Wager?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Come on, I mean, we can stand on the table
as much as we want inside the podcast studio, but
they al only are gonna have to want to do that.
And there have been so many opportunities in the past
where they could have added Bobby Waxes and they have
not done.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, so I come across your table. It's like dog
gonna being at the dog on a sushi restaurant. It's like,
should I get that thing on a little what do
you call it? The conveyor? Bet It's not a conveyor,
Betty goes by, But you had the second time sushi restaurants?
Is isay?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Are you going to get it wrong?
Speaker 7 (22:22):
How many times are you going to see him go
to another team and still contribute more so than any
of the linebackers you currently have in your team.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I agree, I agree with you, but now I'm sure
that I don't know if they do.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
There's a big reason why the Commanders don't have him
on their roster anymore. Sure, I mean he's he's he's
unreliable in coverage right now. Yeah, today's Bobby Wagner doesn't
do that very well.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
But you know what he does. He tackles and a
surefire tackle.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
We've we've talked about this before on the show too.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
A need into three four kind of maybe a little bit,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
But Christian Parker has been very It's been noted by
multiple people within the organization that he has a very
specific idea of what he wants. He's not going to
to to waiver on anything that he's doing building a roster.
He is going to get what he wants. And if
he doesn't want a Christian Parker made a Bobby Wagner type,
(23:15):
then he's probably how.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Many draft picks this year? This year? Yes? Eight? Seven?
Seven or eight? And how many are eight now with
the trade? Okay, so eight draft picks? And how many
are below fourth or below fifth round? They've got four?
So you got four top fours or top four yea
in the top for five rounds something like that, right,
four picks in the top five rounds? Yeah, yeah, well
(23:40):
to one in the top five rounds two, one, three, four, Yeah,
and then you've got three fives. Okay, so Christian Parker,
you need to go get some more guys.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah, And of course it's like.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
That's not to say the guys in the draft are
going to come in and play right now, but the
probability is low. Like there's there's there's some teams put
more emphasis on rolling the dice on draft picks than others, right,
And I think what you're seeing right now is the
league is really starting to change and we're seeing this
within trades. There's been more trades than has ever been.
Teams are starting to rest their their their they're wallets
(24:15):
on proven players, right. It's not the discredit guys that
are coming through the draft that have to prove themselves.
And some guys may hit right now. Some guys may
hit on their second or third team.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
You don't you're.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Seeing you know, teams are tired of waiting, right, and
some teams are more tired than others. Go get you
a guy that you know, I know what he's going
to do. Right. It may not be everything I want,
but I know what the productive productivity I'm going to
get out of him. And then I go get the
guy that I hope turns into, you know, whatever it
is that we project them to be. I don't want
(24:47):
to go hope, I really go no hope and too fair.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
I know we're talking a lot about Wagner, but there
are other guys that have been reported that the Cowboys
are interested in trading for. We can't necessarily name those
names right now, we can't talk about them, but I
underst standing there is a plan there. They're not saying
like we're not going to address itself.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
I think there was a plan agency too that was
Plan A, this Plan B, and this is kind of
what they're happening, or it might even be C or
do you who knows?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Well?
Speaker 4 (25:12):
They have a plan moving forward, but we just got
to find a way to make that happen, and whether
or not they're willing to part with some of these
draft picks to do so. I do want to talk
about the NFL Draft, and when we come back, I've
got a question about trades post draft and how that
may have influenced the way that the Cowboys attacked this
free agency and whether or not you guys agree with
that or not. More talking Cowboys and Draft discussion right
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Speaker 1 (28:06):
Now you know I have a beef, Kyle. I know
you did a beef. I know my fellow teammates up here.
You guys keep your eye on the chat during the show,
talking talking cowboys. Yeah, talking cowboys nation our fanly. We
love you guys, Yeah, we love you guys. I just
don't partake in the chat during the show. But these guys,
they they kind of pass a little birdie, play a
little game of telephone. Uh. And I was told that
(28:29):
Bobby Wagner conversations were erroneous.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Nonsense, nonsense.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I want people at home to understand. Yes, the NFL
will tell you oftentimes that you're old. The NFL will
tell you oftentimes that you're washed up. NFL will tell
you oftentimes that you don't have any more to give.
There are some outliers. I'm not sure if people a
lot of times when they tell you that they're probably right,
they're probably right. But there's certain guys that gotta come
(28:58):
along that really don't know along with that. Bobby Wagner
is one of them. Bobby Wagner in his fourteenth season.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Fourteen at linebacker that seems like a lot.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
At linebacker, interior linebacker, fourteenth season for the Washington Commanders
last year, played all seventeen games. Availability is kind of important, right,
Best ability is availability seventeen games as a linebacker somebody
who's responsible for hitting people and placed fifth overall in
the NFL and tackles in.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
The NFL like all.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
The players, I mean, even the guys that are like
rookies and like fourteen years younger, fourteen years less wearing
tear fifth. So when you guys are questioning whether or
not this is somebody that the Dallas Cowboys should be considering,
you might want to just check the rap sheet aka
no ian, But the check the rap sheet, because this
duke is still a ball, and if you got one
(29:52):
year out of him with half of that productivity, you're winning, yes,
Because what I'm saying is you can spend a twelve
on a linebacker that you consider to be a sure
thing that was a dog in college. You can spend
a twenty on that. But below that, no disrespect, you're
probably hoping and rolling the dice that that person's gonna
(30:13):
hit right, No disrespect to all the other draft picks,
especially in this year's draft where it's pretty deep, right,
You're you're kind of questioning whether or not that person
can come in and be that guy. Some guys can,
some guys can't. Why have that question mark when you
can for sure get somebody who is a great person
right at, a great contributor in a community, great locker
(30:35):
room guy, and a great contributor on the field, And
it's gonna hit you for the It's gonna hit you
for the lo.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Low yeah, lower than you would get a younger cat
that does all that stuff, all the same stuff. Now,
just to be completely fair, the same person that did
call it nonsense in the chat did reply and said,
if I'm Bobby, I want a chance before retirement to win,
not come to this type of situation, and he used it.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
You can say that about every squad, like genuinely, like, yeah,
the Cowboys, have they done anything in the past that
make you feel good about them going towards next year's
Super Bowl. No, but you can't. You can't say that
for sure thing about any of these teams around the league.
Teams are turning over their rosters left and right. We
had more coaching in vacancies than than we've had in
last fifteen years. Like, there's gonna be teams that pop
(31:21):
up that are going to be contribute, you know, gonna
be competitors and real you know, real conversation in terms
of the playoffs that that weren't there last year. So
to make that statement is it's kind of like saying,
you know, peanut butter and jelly go together.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Yeah, I mean the Seattle situation makes it a lot
more different. I mean, they turn their team around in
one year. Yeah, in one year. You're telling me that
a lot of teams don't think they can do that.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
They also drafted really well, absolutely, or look at the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Look at the Patriots and what do we know from
the draft show teams at drafting?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah dude, yeah, yeah, Patriots worth that three and fourteen
or whatever it was to the Super Bowl. Like come on, man,
like stuff changes in a year. So like that's erroneous
to make this no disrespect. Yeah, let's go into the
draft a little bit here.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Cowboys did have some guys out on the draft trail yesterday.
These are all reports, some of them confirmed by cameras.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
On site, others others not camera.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Yeah, Schottenheimer, Christian Parker, Will McClay, we're all at the
Miami Pro day yesterday with some of the notable products there.
Of course Ruben Bain, who's on the draft cover Draft
Guide cover right there, mister Baine, a key messidor another
edge rusher from there.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
You think that they help linebackers. You think they drove
to Miami. I'm just wondering. No, no, no commercial, noj Yeah.
I mean I was waiting those TSA lines coming.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Yeah, they're skipping that.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
They're going right to the tarmac, big dog the Uh.
But yeah, Kyante Scott another late round secondary player that
I really like, is from Miami, and there's a there's
a lot of really good talent there. So they were
out there yesterday. Not the only place that the Cowboys
have been. If you really want to keep up the
day with all the reports on where Pep Will have been, uh,
I encourage you to follow Nick Harris and Tommy Yurs.
(33:03):
Those are kind of the two guys that are on
the pro day trail at the moment. Tommy is actually
at Texas Pro Day right now.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
He drives. He did drive, no PJ.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
He did not get Sorry, Tommy, get your butt down
to Austin.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
He went to school there. You're fine. Yeah, you may
have this.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Khaki's all the way down.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Speaking of walking uh down down I thirty five. Linda Wells,
I don't think he'd I don't think he had the
private jet either. Linda, the tight ends coach, was reported
to have dinner with some of the Baylor draft prospects,
including tight end Michael Trigg the quarterback, saw your Robertson
and then Josh Robertson the wide receiver or Josh Cameron
(33:47):
Cameron the wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I like to mention that from Baylor probably one of
the best offseason retainments. I don't want to say acquisitions
that we had.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Oh yeah, we getting Lunda a lot of love on
the show.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Ye dub almost left, he was on was gone. Yeah,
he almost joined the McCarthy era out there, like seriously,
like that that wasn't his only possibility either. I'm I'm
pretty sure he had options. Oh he did, and I'm
pretty sure he chose to stay here. So Cowboys Nation,
whatever happens on the back And because we're not we're
not heavy to those conversations or negotiations like give a
(34:22):
give a nice little handclap to the to the front
office for finding a way to retain him, because to
keep to stay as a tight ends coach when you
had offensive coordinator presented to you, m something happened to
keep him here. I'll just say that and yeah, kudos.
I wonder what that could mean. Uh.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I want to continue with with draft stuff here though,
because based on our conversation in the first segment, I
feel like all three of us sit here and we
say best player available is always the goal.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
When it comes to the NFL draft.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Nope, you want to take the you want to take
the best player available. However, when you have holes on
your defense, you are limited in what the best player
available pool looks like. You can't just pluck from the pool.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
When you have to pick a specific type of fish,
you have to you have to.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
So you're still going to see probably the best defensive
player on the board and where they would fit are
there any limitations based on your mindset of where they
can and cannot go with the twelfth and twenty picks
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Draft limitations, Yes, I would say you do not need
to grab an interior defensive lineman with those with the
first round picks. Don't don't grab it for you know,
you know how I feel about my interior D lineman.
But I don't think that you need to. I think
that you have your two dogs. We'll see what Otito provides,
but you have two true proven dogs on the anterior
(35:53):
D line. You have other needs that you can use
those picks work. So I would not feel great if
they went out and grabbed an interior D lineman at
that pick. Would you know I would still be okay
with it? But I was like, ah, you could use
that to a linem. I could use that the grab
a dominant corner, use that you grab a D N like.
I think those are the three positions that I would
feel better about than interior D line.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Would you be cool making a move for a defensive
tackle at ninety two with that pick you got for Mosa,
kind of replace it with another defensive tackle that fits
your scheme better.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
No, Okay, no, I I want depth. I want depth,
but not with those picks.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Okay, I would be entirely fine with it. Honestly.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
One of the arguments that we had last year when
we're arguing about edge rusher versus defensive.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Tackle, your strength is super strength.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Make your strength the super strength.
Speaker 7 (36:41):
And the fact that you weren't able to extend Kenny
Clark or my goodness, Quentinn Williams this offseason, I think
is part of my philosophy there where it's like, you
don't know how much longer you have these guys, if
they're going to be here past next year, So, in
my opinion, like beef that up as much as you
possibly can and make it the dominant.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Force that it needs to be.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
Ipically all all, for all intents and purposes, we've from
what we've learned about Christie Parker's defense so far and
all of the moves that they've made, you're not gonna
be able.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
To run the ball in this team.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
So to me, make it even more of a of
a competition there at defensive tackle. But uh, oh, Tito,
considering he's more of a deaf guy. Now, if you
draft a guy higher, yeah, make that that strength even more.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Uh, I would typically agree with you on almost probably
ninety plus. But because there are actual holes like there,
I get it. There are not guys currently on this
roster that I feel comfortable and confident with feeling some
of these voids with this new system. And though he
said we're gonna be versatile, we're gonna be We're gonna
(37:46):
be multiple in the looks. And you want kind of
Swiss army knives guys that could play multiple positions on
this defense. You want an outside linebacker that could play
you know, they could play you know, out, you know,
I don't even know safety, and safety that could play corner.
Like you want guys that are kind of multiple, I want.
I want guys that can give some flex And if
you're playing an interior DEFENSI alignment, you're just playing interior
(38:07):
defense alignment.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
I think you have the luxury of doing that with
two first round picks. If you decide to use both
of those first round picks, I think you're able to
take the best player available, regardless of the position.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Maybe not quarterback, maybe not sure.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
So you would be okay using a first round pick
on a backup, A backup. What that's what I'm saying, like,
if you grab an interior defensilignment, they're a backup.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
If you're grabbing an offensive player, with the exception of
maybe running back, it would maybe be a backup.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Guys, I'm talking defense here, Yeah, I'm talking.
Speaker 7 (38:36):
So that's play's defensive player available.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
I thought not sit here, and over the course of
me covering the draft for this organization, multiple times we've
said they have no choice but to take defense only
in the first round, in the first three rounds, and
then take offensive players in the first round. I can't
sit here and say that it's off the table for
Dallas entirely.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
It's not.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
They could upgrade their offensive tackle spot if the right
guy is there.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
They could add to wide receiver if.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
They don't feel confident that George Pickens is gonna stick around.
They could add Jeremiah Love at the running back spot.
Maybe not at twelve, but at twenty if he's there, Holy.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Cow, would that be fun. Grab a kicker.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
I'm just now, I'm just saying, like, as much as
we sit here and we're gonna pigeonhole defense all the
way through, and I completely agree, Yeah, we cannot take
it off the table.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
No, it's not off the table. It's just on the edge.
It's just light bump is knocking it off. Yeah, exactly,
just like that, just like that, like that. Yeah, No,
I'm it's.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Like season to broccoli. It's it's over there there, it's there.
Speaker 7 (39:39):
I'm gonna be like on seasoned broccoli, unseasoned dude, what
are you doing?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Hold cold brocky?
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah, you can't do it, extra pepper on that.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Yeah, all right, we got to take our second break.
When we come back. I'm gonna play a little game
with these guys. How about blind resumes for NFL draft prospects.
Close your eyes and just imagine what they would fit
like in this down defense when we come back with
more talking cowboys after this.
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Speaker 1 (42:23):
From the NF. Let's freaking go, Kyle. I know, I'm excited.
Whoo exciting. This is the best.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Lead in in the NFL calendar for me other than
training camp.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
I do love training camp. The last time the Cowboys
had two first round picks two thousand and eight, I think, no, wow,
it's been a while.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
I shouldn't know that off the top of my head,
but I don't. All right, blind resumes. These are NFL
draft prospects that right now on my list are very
close in terms of rankings, maybe not draft grade, but rankings.
They're what we call touching tag, and they're different types
(43:02):
of players. So I want you to tell me what's
going to fit. Without talking about the name of the
prospector of the school, or what they went through or
did from a conference standpoint or anything like that. This
is just measurements and some tiny traits to think about
and what they would fit in Christian Parker's defense. So
start at linebacker, and we're trying to get through maybe
(43:23):
two positions here. The first linebacker is six foot one
two and thirty pounds and he's twenty one years old.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Got it all.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
He had eight tackles for loss three and a half
sacks eighty eight tackles in thirteen games against premium competition.
He did not test during the Combine or his pro
day because he had some knee swelling and he did
not want to inflammatory that, but he did go through drills.
He is listed as a green dot potential immediately and
(43:55):
can call the plays on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Feel pretty good about it. That are cool?
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Yeah, Green dots potential. The other linebacker, linebacker number two,
is six foot two, two forty pounds, so a little
bit bigger, a little bit taller than the last linebacker.
He is also twenty one years old. He did test.
He went four to five one in the forty. He
had a thirty seven inch vertical that's ten and a
half inch broad downhill runner, but a tendency.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
To over sell when he runs downhill and he attacks.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
You already got one of those.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
You got a couple of those.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
You got a couple of those.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
But those are your two options, linebacker one and the
linebacker two. If you have any questions, I will clarify,
but I will not give hints.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Speak through that one more time, okay, c J, I
let's breaking go. Well, I'll do it.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
For knocking goal.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
See that I was in his mind.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Not blind anymore.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Well darned. Yeah, we're so disappointing.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
I went through so much this you did to make
this happen.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
I was leaning towards number two? Were you I was?
Speaker 3 (45:07):
I was going number one. I don't want the green dot.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
You want the green dot potential.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
I want the green dot potential.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
They don't necessarily tab the second linebacker as a green
dot potential.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
But yes, J Allen is number one. That is a linebacker.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
I'll give you the linebacker too. I'll say six dogs,
six foot two two and forty.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Pounds, twenty one years old. Do you have any guesses?
I know you've listened to the draft show a little bit.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Yeah, yes, that Rodriguez.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
It is not right. He was another one. I was
thinking about putting in this organiza.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
Or putting in this, but I decided c J. Allen
and Rodriguez from like a testing and a side standpoint.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Are actually very comparable.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Is that the LSU guy?
Speaker 4 (45:42):
No, it is not the LSU guy. Okay, it is
Anthony Hill Junior out of Texas. That is the tomic
and linebacker picked the second he probably would have.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
But which one you would have leaned to. I would
have leaned to. Like, over aggressiveness doesn't bother me because
the only thing that you need for that is.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Great coaching discipline.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Yeah, like you, it's hard to get somebody to turn
that switch on if they don't have that switch. I'd
rather them have that switch and be able to pull
them back and say, hey, let the game come, do
you You know I'm saying, pick and choose your battles.
But like, if somebody does not have not to say that.
Most linebackers don't. But if you don't have that trigger,
you can't just copy and paste that into somebody's you know,
freaking genealogy.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
It's not there one hundred percent.
Speaker 7 (46:21):
But one of the things that I've kind of pulled
at least from the combine, one of the things that
they kept kind of repeating over and over, especially the
Christian Parker side of things, was brain works and to me,
that green Dot aspect, the fact that he was such
a cerebral player, to me is indication of where the
Cowboys would lean. And honestly, that was just a preference
for me to begin with.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
And there was a comment in the chat that I
kind of want to clarify a little bit here, Sonny
wants to said so Kyle, Christian Parker saying that after
the scheme or altering the scheme to your players was
just blowing smunk because he wants a specific type and
I said that in the last segment. He really wants
a specific type, specific type of player, not necessarily a
specific type of build.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Right, he wants the serementally, he wants the work ethic,
he wants all of that stuff. He's not going to
mess around with anything other than that. From a system
and an ex's and O standpoint, I think he is
going to mold to whatever they end up getting. Even
though a three to four is different. You're going to
have to find certain guys to fit into that three
four system here in year one because you've never really
(47:23):
run that in the past. So that's where that's where
we're kind of basing the measurements off of compared to
the type of player that Christian Parker would want across
the board.
Speaker 5 (47:32):
All right, let's go to corner and I'm going to
try not to mess this one up.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
This timmer right right.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
All right, Corner number one, six foot, one hundred and
ninety three pounds. He does have long arms or longer arms,
I should say, thirty one and three eighths across the board.
Ran a four four four forty yard dash in the
NFL Combine, and he had a forty and a half vertical.
He's a ten and a half inch broad jump, and
(48:00):
he plays with kind of the physicality of a box safety.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
It's at corner like that. I knew as soon as
you say he was six foot, I knew he had.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
To have he had to have some of those things
across the board. So that's corner number one, corner number two.
He is a little bit smaller, five foot eleven one
and eighty six pounds. He did not run, but he
did the jumps. He did thirty four inch vertical, ten
to three broad jump. He did bench as well. He
had seventeen reps on the bench across the board. Comes
(48:29):
from some good bloodlines at the position, and he has
a blend of athleticism inside to play size, to play
inside or outside, and he did play both inside and
outside during his time.
Speaker 7 (48:42):
One would you argue the second one is undersized in
general or kind of the h what you already have currently.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
Like what you already have in terms of boundary corners. Yeah,
I would probably probably put him in the same category.
I would play him a nickel and I would love it, okay,
and I think he would be an awesome nickel.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Would you argue you already got your nickel.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
In Jalen Thompson.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
No, oh, in Kobe Durant, Yes, similar type of player,
but this guy says.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
More of a dog.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Give me option one.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Option one. Yes, that is Colton Hood out of Tennessee.
Colton Hood thought.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
To be maybe more of an option at twenty than
he would be at twelve. Yes, but still a very
viable cornerback option. Let's say you miss out on Monsor
de Laine at twelve, who's probably high and above the
number one corner in the NFL draft. If you miss
out on him at twelve and you miss it, let's
say you don't want to go with your mom McCoy.
Who's the other Tennessee corner who's coming off of an injury,
(49:45):
hasn't played in a year, that kind of thing. Then
twenty could be where you take your corners, and that's
where Colton Hood. And then number two is x Avion
Terrell from Clemson, who I really do like and I
think he would be a phenomenal nickel and if you
need it him to go outside, I think he's Deron
Bland two point zero. That's who I think he and
I think he's more polished coming out of school.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Than versatility guys. They can play safety and cover. That's
what That's what I believe that Christian Parker is going for,
because you want to be multiples. You want to be
able to have three safeties in the back. You want
to be able to have you know, your nickel, your dime,
whatever it may be, no matter what the offense puts
out there. We have a guy that can cover you,
and we have a guy that can come up and hit. Yeah.
So a couple of different options for you? Which one
(50:27):
we're watching one?
Speaker 4 (50:28):
You were leaning toward one, you were also leaning toward one. Okay,
there you go.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Well what about you? What would what would your I
have Colton Hood ranked higher.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Do you think he's going to be there twenty though?
Speaker 1 (50:40):
Yes, yeah, I think so. I think you would. I
have them touching tags.
Speaker 4 (50:43):
Colton Hood is my corner four, uh and Terrell is
my corner five okay, behind Delanne McCoy, and then I
have Brandon CSA at three. I think I might flip Hood,
depending on I want to watch a little bit more
tape of these guys, but I might flipped the two.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
But I have I have c say above Hood in Terrell. Nice.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
Thank you Kyle. I like that game.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
Yeah we may let's keep doing with that. Yeah as
we give along.
Speaker 5 (51:09):
That does it for us here on Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (51:11):
Hope to have Patrick back next week. Once again, well
wishes to our guys. He is probably out of surgery
by now, I would hope, but uh, we'll hope to
have him back very very soon.
Speaker 5 (51:20):
For Patrick, No see Walker, who's not here?
Speaker 4 (51:23):
Josh Rodriguez, we get for Isaiah stand back Chris Beam
in the back of Kyle Yeoman saying so long from
Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
We'll see you next week.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
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