Talkin’ Cowboys: Young Guns

Kyle Youmans, Patrik Walker, Isaiah Stanback, & Josh Rodriguez turn the page to the Carolina Panthers and preview Bryce Young, his receiving corps, and how they’ll match against the Cowboys defense now without another cornerstone in DeMarvion Overshown.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
The following.

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This He's Talking Cowboys Straining live.

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From the Dallas Cowboys World Course at the Star in Frisco.

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Six sect ted pat touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback,
Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, and Kyle Yeomans.

Speaker 5 (00:39):
It's so Wonderful Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by
Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Texas in the SWBC studios.

Speaker 5 (00:49):
It is now week fifteen of the NFL season as
the Cowboys get ready to take on the Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Coming up on Sunday at noon.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
Will at Patrick No see Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand
Back with Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman's
whole cast and crew ready for you today to rock Isaiah,
I thought.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
You were back tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (01:09):
A lot of rock.

Speaker 7 (01:12):
Long Yeah, you know, Kyle's in and out man.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
One day trip maybe one day trip thisay. Next time
I saw your day in the life on your story,
it was nice.

Speaker 7 (01:21):
Try to do that from time to time.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
You know, just how your chase checks bro boy man listen,
y'all three all three got salary.

Speaker 7 (01:29):
I gotta get the contract, like you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
I'm all about it, man, that's I love that you.

Speaker 7 (01:34):
No, it was a good time. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
I wish I could have stayed and watched the game
in person, but you know, duty call, so I was
able to do the pregame show to carry my responsibilities
with the cowboys.

Speaker 7 (01:42):
Hopped on.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
The plane went down and it was a short night.
It was a very short night. But got up and
did TV and now I'm back with.

Speaker 7 (01:48):
My fellows there.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
They didn't want to watch this, man, I did.

Speaker 7 (01:51):
I watched all of it, watched every every minute you.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Watch it on the plane, got that Wi Fi and almost.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Almost took out a couple of flight attendants because my
body language at the time. I had the bones, fossil
you know, arms out, hands overhead, I had all that
stuff going on, and I definitely almost hit the person
that was sitting next to me who was sleep sound asleep.
And yeah, I had all the stuff, all this stuff
I was I was watching it, Yeah, all the things
like legit, if there was a hidden camera on me,
I wish there was because you guys would have seen like.

Speaker 7 (02:21):
I was doing all of it on the plane.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Were you in? Were you and coach? Were you in
first class?

Speaker 7 (02:27):
They take care of me. Okay, I did not pay.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
It was a gift for those that don't remember. We've
got history when it comes to that.

Speaker 8 (02:39):
That's why they caught Isaiah first first class stand back.
So he's not a stand by.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
You're not a stand by. First on first off.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
Jones Es leg room stand back. So what did you
think of the Special team's miss cue?

Speaker 4 (02:59):
I mean, it's just that's not I mean, that's, first
of all, amazing call by bones fossil yep.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Okay, we talked about that amazing execution.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
By the blocking portion that the guys that are on
the line of scream issues and responsible for creating the
mismatches and a confusion a Nick Vigil doing a great
job of getting both hands down, getting it, getting it blocked,
avoiding the kicker, avoiding the punter in the process. As
a straight veteran, you don't see that out of young
guys a lot of times. And then you just have

(03:28):
to be smart. You just have to be smart. I
don't like pointing out guys, but these are conversations that
you have if anybody who's questioning Bones Fossil's decision. If
anybody's questioning you know whether or not Bones Fossil teaches
his guys. Every person who is a specialist understands that
once you block a punt, unless that thing is bouncing

(03:50):
right in front of you and you are on the
opposing side, right by the punter and you can pick it.

Speaker 7 (03:54):
Up and scoop and score, you get the heck away.
It's called Peter Peter.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
I don't know whether where originated, but as soon as
you hear that, soon as you hear that, you look
around you find the ball.

Speaker 7 (04:04):
It is Peter, Peter, Peter, Peter, get the heck away.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Run to the dog dog on second level of AT
and T Stadium, Go sit down next to somebody, grab
a little bit the popcorn, take a little sippy sip,
and watch the ball come to a halt, and then
watch your offense go back out there and get the
ball and go win the ball game. That's how you
go about your business. So it was great up until
that point. And it's unfortunate because instinctively, instinctively, you want

(04:31):
to be the one to grab the ball and go
do something with it. That's instinct. That's just your competitive nature. Now,
So I don't fault anybody for instinctively wanting to go
make a play. The logic has to kick in correct.

Speaker 7 (04:43):
The coaching has to coaching has to come in.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
There has to be the little bones fossil sitting on
your shoulder, throwing his arms up in the air, saying, Peter, Peter, Peter,
get the heck away, because it's literally natural for you
to go to the ball. But you will see it,
you guys, go look at all the punts, all the
blocks from this year, and I guarantee you you will
see people in distinctually go to the ball and then
they pulled back. Yeah, it's natural. So I'm not faulting
the natural instinct. I am faulting the disregard of the coach,

(05:08):
coaching wise element that should have been coming through your
head at that point in time to get the heck away.

Speaker 7 (05:13):
And because of that, it's.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Unfortunate, but that particular play ended up being a thing
that lost you the game. And there was accumulation of
other plays that could have taken place throughout the game.
Could have done things better, could have executed better, could
have had less penalties, all the things that contribute to
a loss, but in that moment, that was too big
of a moment.

Speaker 7 (05:29):
To not be fully aware of what the severity of
that situation was.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
And we talked a little bit about it yesterday about
Emonio will Warria and his Yeah, what his thought process
was going into it. And one of our callers yesterday
talking Tuesday, said that he felt.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Like it was a selfish move.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
I don't think he used the word selfish, but he
said it was a move where it's like you can't
be the hero in that moment and try and take
it and do something. He was falling on top of
the ball, in my opinion, So I think it's more
so what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
It's instinct. It's sea ball, get ball, let me recover it.
He's not thinking I'm going to pick this up and
go take it.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
This is not the first time we've seen it, Yeah,
And I want people to remember and remember that. And
it's the first time you've seen it in special teams.
How many times have we seen o Liman this year try.

Speaker 7 (06:16):
To pick the ball up?

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yet it's twice right playing hero ball. He's still in
guiding right both of them.

Speaker 7 (06:22):
This year.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
People forget this right, let me help you guys recollect. Okay,
those guys are instinctually you're supposed to fall on the ball.

Speaker 7 (06:29):
Up, I take that back.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Instinctally they want to get the get the run, right, Logically,
they're supposed to fall on the ball.

Speaker 7 (06:36):
Remember who you are, Remember what your position is.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Fall on the ball.

Speaker 7 (06:40):
The probability of you scooping and scoring is probably very low.
So fall on the ball. But we've seen instincts say.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
What get the ball and run.

Speaker 8 (06:49):
I mean, look at just a couple of weeks ago
in Washington, one Y Thomas. He picks up that that
onside kick and takes the coach for such.

Speaker 7 (06:56):
In that moment, you fall on and you fall on
the ball, situation instinct says I'm going to make a play. Yeah, right, and.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
You're not.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
You don't think about all the you don't think about
all the what ifs, right, because understand this, And that's
why I said I don't.

Speaker 7 (07:12):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
I don't want to come out too hard on him
because he knows right, trust me, he's beating the crap
out of himself right now. Mentally, if anything, he needs
support at this time the game is yeah, I'm yeah, yeah,
trust me stepping in front of it.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
And yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
The thing is people need to understand when you are
the one responsible for losing the game for your team,
you need all the support in the world because you
people aren't talking to you.

Speaker 7 (07:39):
You can feel the energy.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
You already know, right you're running through that same play
thousands of times in your head.

Speaker 7 (07:45):
What I should have done differently, what could have done better?

Speaker 9 (07:47):
What?

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Why did I do that? I don't trust me. He
is beating himself up, so we don't need to beat
him up, but we need. But they're the coaching element
needs to be continually ran over because I know it's
been communicated, right, I know it's been communicated.

Speaker 7 (07:59):
And for that to have happened at that moment just
is just really unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
You don't react that way as a team.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
I mean the sideline reacting the way that they did,
the Nick vigil from.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Halfway across the field with his hands over his head.
You don't react that way if it had not been communicated.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
If if and that's where a lot of people might say, well,
why didn't they coach them up better?

Speaker 1 (08:23):
They did? These guys know the fundamentals of all of that.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Can I give you an example, a really quick example.
So we were playing I think it was a Monday
night game maybe against Philadelphia back in the day, and
I was a kick returner and it was at the
time it was myself and it was Jones, Felix Jones
goes back to returning kicks, and they didn't want to
kick me the ball. I had had maybe a handful
of good returns leading up to that game. So we

(08:48):
ended up doing this thing where we were interchange and
we would switch right based upon the approach of David Akers.

Speaker 7 (08:53):
Trying to try to force their hands.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
So David I ended up declaring myself and David Ackers
kicked me a knuckleball, a freaking knuckle Now this thing
is coming at you, you know, sixty yards away, and
it's freaking going like this, right, anybody ever seen a
knuckleball before. It's kind of crazy. He made it happen
with a football. So the ball's coming at me right,
I step outside of the en zone. I come to
the ball and it dives out it literally right out right,
as right as I were grabbing it, freaking curve broke.

(09:17):
It was nasty twelve six, freaking nasty six. So it
hits my hand and goes in the end zone. Instinctually,
what do you do?

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Pick up?

Speaker 7 (09:26):
Picking up? I touched the ball. I touched the ball
outside the end zone. It's hot, it's hot. I gotta
get it, right, I gotta get it. I gotta get it.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
I gotta hurry up. I go back in the zone,
grab the ball. I gotta come out. I gotta try
to make something happen. Logically, right, I didn't understand this
at the time. Right, coach had went over it back
in training camp. Right, But logically I should have taken
the knee because the momentum of the ball carried into
the end zone. But instinctively, I went back, grabbed the ball,
and I came back out in I got tackled, like

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on the two yard line. Next play, Tony Romo gets
stripped sack for a touchdown. M butterfly fit. I was
beating the craw out of myself. I was beating myself down, right,
because I was the one responsible for that. Right, But
instincts kicked in and all logic went out the window
because you go into panic mode, right, right you went.

Speaker 7 (10:12):
I went to panic mode.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
I'm like, so to this day, I run this play
over and over and over, so understand what he's going through.

Speaker 7 (10:20):
And I feel him, right, I feel him.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
It's it's just one of those things and you just
hope that when you have those moments that they don't
have these.

Speaker 7 (10:28):
Results, and unfortunately this decision did.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
Now that's a great example, really is, and there are
very few people that understand it the way that people
would if you've gone through that, you're.

Speaker 10 (10:38):
Talking about it all these years later.

Speaker 7 (10:40):
Yeah, imagine what year this bro, That was my second
year in the league. Old at and T Stadium, I mean.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Texas Texas Stadium. You know, the roof open at all time.
I mean it's bro and I mean that was a
big time. Philly was in town. I mean it was
you know, it was old school Philly. Brian Dawkins Philly
all said it was Monday night too.

Speaker 7 (10:59):
I think it was Monday night games. I mean everybody
their mom was watching Monday night. Sunday night was one
of the two.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, it was crazy, very similar, very similar.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
And as a return touchdown, everybody's watching who you there
was nowhere else for anybody to look.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, you and the ball. Yeah that's it man. That Yeah,
that's tough.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
But yeah, we talked about it, coaching moments, learning moments.
You can't reverse it. You can't You're going to replay
it forever, but you can't change it, and you kind.

Speaker 8 (11:25):
Of have to give it up for AO in earlier
moments this season. I mean, he was the one to
ice the Giants win for us when he picked off
Daniel Jones in the last in the final seconds of
the game. He's had some really good plays. It's not
like this guys is not worth playing on the field.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
It was on the same wavelength, at least for me
as a guy like Josh Butler.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeah, he was Josh Butler this season before Josh Butler
then became Josh correct.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Correct, So didn't anticipate it. You pick him up off
of the street as a free agent.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
He comes in and contributes, and that's all you ask
out of those guys like that. And he's making an
effort play, trying to do what he can. But like
you said, I think it's the battle between logic and instincts.
That's what you just outlined, and in this point, instincts
won out. He's trying to see ball, getball, hop on
top of it, secure possession because he doesn't know what

(12:17):
happened outside of that, you gotta be you gotta be
better about it.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
And that's that's the only thing you can learn.

Speaker 7 (12:22):
That's called football.

Speaker 11 (12:23):
Man.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
The highest of the highs, the lowest of the lowes,
and you see it, and you see it often. Obviously
it's not always as highlighted as much as this one was.
But we see holding calls all the timers like, come on, man,
you gotta let him go. Well, the dog and me
says no, run this dude into the ground. The logic says, hey,
once he gets leverage on me, I gotta let him go, right. So,
I mean, you see it all the time. It just
doesn't get as much attention as it One of the

(12:45):
main things is and you can attest to this, Isaiah,
definitely as a form of pro player, being a professional
NFL or being a professional, because that's done it being
a professional player in any sport, but we're talking about
the NFL. You have to balance the preparation and the
code that's been instilled in you versus your fight or
flight in the moment. And that's all it ever is
when any given and that's what.

Speaker 7 (13:07):
Holding call is.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
It's mono versus you know, man, man versus man, you
want to beat me, I don't want to beat you.

Speaker 7 (13:15):
So in that phone booth, letting you go in that
phone booth.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
You know there's a play going on, but it's you
versus this guy, and it might result in a holding call.

Speaker 7 (13:24):
You might get a little too aggressive, you might go
full block off. Man, I'm not going to concede that
you beat me in the middle of So those types
of situations, it's situational for yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
That is when it's most important, which is why some
coaches and again I don't know what happens on that
side of the building, but I know it. Bones foss
was one of the most respected coaches in the league.
And I think even if I was reading up, mister
Jones even went in there and questioned bones.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Fossils what was the play to me?

Speaker 4 (13:51):
And he came. When I came back around, I was like,
I don't fault him. Great execution, All the stuff is right.
That's why some just spends so much time on situational football.
And I go back to a lot of times people
hate it. Yeah, I know people hate when I go
back and talk about my time in New England, but
that was the time where where there was an emphasis

(14:13):
on situational football. We spent hours every day walking through
situational football. Coach Belichick will bring up situations from the
Dog on seventies film out that there was a literal film,
you know what I'm saying, not digital but actual film,
and we would go over here and back in this game.
You know, this was the situation, and this we're going
to go over in practice today because when those moments

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present themselves, that's the first thing that comes in your head.
Ah right, and it tries it. And they do that
to try to limit the instinctual response because you're a competitor.
You are a competitor, and the coaches understand that as
a competitor, it is naturally and ordainly in you to
react the way that has made you a professional. So

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I have to have to literally teach you so much
situational ball that it overthrows your instincts which.

Speaker 7 (15:02):
Have made you a professional athlete.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
That's extremely insightful from the future coach of the University
of North Carolina, Tar Hills.

Speaker 7 (15:11):
And his son.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
Yeah, let's get into some news and notes quickly before
we get into some other previews this week.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Indeed, so We're still waiting to hear an update on
Cooper BB as far as the concussion is concerned. But
like I said yesterday, short week going into Carolina, I
personally am not penciling him in for this game. I
think the starting lineup, we'll see what left tackle looks
like with Tyler Gotton, but Tyler Guyton Slash, Chumdidoga and
then Tyler Smith brought Hoffman, TJ. Bass and Terrence Teel.

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I think that's give or take your starting five or
six rotation there. We'll see if he can clear protocol
in time, but I'm not confident that he can. And Overshown,
we got the confirmation after yesterday's episode that Overshown.

Speaker 7 (15:53):
Has torn a c l M c l P CL.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
So that's that's the devastating news is that he will
as we expected, he's gonna have to have surgery. Yep,
his season is over, but there is a solid likelihood
that we may not see him on the field next year,
next season or next year because calendar year twenty twenty shot.

Speaker 7 (16:15):
Maybe Cowboys make a playoff run of some sort.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
When you see him in January of twenty twenty six,
which is still technically next season, but it's a long journey.

Speaker 7 (16:24):
Don't pencil him in for that. Just let him get
his knee together. Heel up.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
Now that's the bad news. That's dark cloud over twenty
twenty five for him. Before you go on like prayer,
I was gonna keep to him, Go ahead. I'm sorry. Sorry,
prayers up to demo. And if anybody questions how tough
some of these dudes are, this dude got.

Speaker 7 (16:45):
Up and it was assisted, but walked off the field.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
It's preseason torn ACL walked walked off, walked off.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
It was a torn ACL and MCL last year in
his left knick, Yeah, that was left and then this
is PCLC and the right knee.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
So this is a worst This is the trifecta. Yeah,
this is the worst injury he's had throughout his career.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
However, opposite need And yet I know I was gonna say,
and yet it's not the worst case scenario.

Speaker 7 (17:16):
Meniscus, no miniscus damage, it's good. No nerve damage, that's good.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
So it's really good.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
With no nerve damage, this is much less. I know
a lot of fans were wondering if this is career
threatening With no nerve damage.

Speaker 7 (17:28):
He'll be back he's a dog. He'll be back. And
I was citing this reference yesterday on Twitter, Nick Chubb.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Okay, Nick Chubb, and people like, well, Nick Chubb doesn't
look like the prime Nick Chubb.

Speaker 7 (17:41):
But first of all, he's only been back on the right,
So there's that. But keep in mind.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Who's giving you the reference, right, So Uga, I'm a
Georgia guy everybody knows in fit say that because in
twenty fifteen, where was Nick Chubb? He was in Athens
with my dogs. Twenty fifteen he suffered his first devastating
the injury. Questions about what he be able to get
back to peak form at the NFL level, Should people
use a high pick on him, whatever the case may be,

(18:06):
Cleveland rounds, he was a high pig. Guess what they get?
They get an all pro player. He turns all Pro
after that devastating the injury. So I say that to
say for that to a guy like the Mario and Overshown,
who much like Nick Chubb we're talking about. Certain guys
are just different physically, right. I am one hundred percent
confident that, barring some type of horrendous set back knock
on wood, that it doesn't happen Marion Overshown will be

(18:29):
back in a Cowboys uniform. I believe that he will
get back to peak peak form. Give him a little
bit of grace when he gets back as far as
timeline is.

Speaker 7 (18:37):
Concerned, but he'll be back.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
His mental fortitude is unmatched, his faith is rock solid,
and as far as work ethic is concerned, you're hard
pressed to find a guy who will attack this rehab
as hard as he will. So some obviously bad news,
but good news. No nerve damage, no miniscus damage. He
just needs to get the three ligaments repaired surgically and
get to work, and he will and he will.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, good news. There any other news and notes.

Speaker 7 (19:03):
Cooper Rush is going to start again.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
He's been officially named the starter against the Carolina Panthers,
and honestly, in listening to Mike McCarthy and listening to
Jerry Jones on one A five three of the Fan,
it doesn't sound like the Cowboys are going to play
the Tree Lance card at starter until slash unless they're
mathematically eliminated, so Panthers might do him a favor.

Speaker 7 (19:25):
We will see.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Just reminder, both Cooper Rush and Trey Lance around the
last year their contract that they're both free agents, and
Trey Lance is actually a higher cap hit this year,
he's being paid more than Yeah's pay. He's being paid
the same amounts Coop Rushes the entire contract. That's correct, million,
just over five point just over rushes two year contract
is what Trey Lance's receiving salary this year. Yeah, you

(19:49):
also didn't give up a pick to a choir coople Rush,
which is even more questioning as there myself.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Panthers, the Panthers, the Panthers a Wednesday.

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So we're gonna preview the Cowboys defense in their matchup
with Bryce Young.

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Speaker 5 (22:53):
Cowboys defensive preview against Bryce Young in the Carolina.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Panthers Not as easy as people think.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
Yeah, Josh, when you look at this matchup, I know
you watch the film and you're looking at Bryce Young,
who all of a sudden looks like a capable franchise quarterback.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
He does.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
And then you've got some weapons around him that are
playing pretty decent after being banged up at different.

Speaker 7 (23:14):
Points this year.

Speaker 8 (23:15):
Absolutely, well, you look at last week and they almost
they almost got him. Man, they almost got the Philadelphia
They will call you almost. I know, I know they
almost got a Bryce Young. He ranks fourth in red
zone past percentage. Do you guys know that that's pretty
darn good for a team that started very terribly this week?

Speaker 7 (23:32):
At fourth.

Speaker 8 (23:34):
Guy who was benched out of thirty two he drinks fourth?
And uh, do you guys know that the Dallas defense
is ranked last and red zone touchdown percentage?

Speaker 1 (23:42):
I don't like what you're saying.

Speaker 7 (23:43):
Not good for us.

Speaker 10 (23:44):
However, however, guys, they got a running back. His name
is Chuba Hubbard. How about this dude is also.

Speaker 7 (23:52):
Very very good.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
He's almos He's a former cowboy, Homa State cow State cowboy.
What are you talking? I just what do you want?
Everybody that's lessening probably was like you idiots.

Speaker 7 (24:03):
Oh, I mean I only consider him good if he
had a thousand yards.

Speaker 10 (24:07):
Yeah, he does have a thousand yards.

Speaker 8 (24:09):
He was on fifteen attempts, eight touchdowns. Already, great vision,
his patient, he finished runs. He's a north and south guy.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
With deceptive speed.

Speaker 10 (24:18):
Dude, I am not looking forward to seeing too.

Speaker 7 (24:21):
But they lost his backup though they didn't really back up.

Speaker 10 (24:24):
But this guy can carry the rock and he can
carry it a lot.

Speaker 7 (24:29):
So here's where I am on that.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
So first of all, yes, it goes without saying to
you with Hubbard, he can, he can make some waves.
When the Cowboys went to Bank of America Stadium last
year and they started kind of playing with their food
food so to speak, and that Cowboys team you.

Speaker 7 (24:42):
Could use that term onre not this Cowboys now different.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
They were playing with their food and they found out,
they almost found out the hard way like you don't
do that. Yeah, yeah, I almost went there, faf f afo,
faffel tube. Hubbard was actually, you know, tearing off some
some yardage against him last year. So they're familiar with
what hubbrid can do.

Speaker 10 (25:01):
And it's our defense is as good as they were
last year.

Speaker 14 (25:04):
Right.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
No, But but I will say this, which great segue.
The run defense has definitely taken steps forward.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
It has taken steps in the right.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
They shut down the rushing attack completely of the Cincinnati Bengals.
And I know people say, well, you know, the Bengals
they wanted to kind of throw the ball, not as
much as the Cowboys were forcing them to throw the ball.
Over the course of the first three and a half quarters,
they really put the Bengals in a bind and made
them one dimensional. But then the problem once they made
them one dimensional, and Kyle will not because we talked

(25:34):
about this, Isaiah, we talked about this, Josh, we talked
about this.

Speaker 7 (25:37):
It was more than.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Simply pressuring Joe Burrow and knocking him off the spot,
because he can reset. You needed to get hands on
him and take him down. So the run defense was there,
the pressure was there. They just couldn't get the sacks.
I say that to say this run defense might actually
be I just I just remember Demo was going so
the run defense prior to losing the Marveyonovshow, I could

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argue was better than last year's run defense, whereas the
secondary play was better last year than this year. But
now that it just hit me again that Demo's out
on the field, now you're gonna have some real questions
about you know, is that run defense is going to
take a step back or now.

Speaker 8 (26:15):
But I think in the later half of the last
game you did see enough from the mad to give
you a chance in that aspect.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Not He's not Demo.

Speaker 8 (26:25):
There's no other player on this defense than is Demo.
But I think you have a chance, like you said,
to continue the progress that the run defenses have so
far this season over the last second half of the.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Day, they're gonna have to play Demon. They're going to
have to play But it can't be he's being scratched for. Yeah, anyways,
the Damon last time he was on the field, he
was impactful.

Speaker 7 (26:48):
Yeah, he was impactful. So yes, you're gonna miss Demo.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
Only he has a ton of experience too. Now at
this point in his career. He has a bunch of
snaps for this early on. So yeah, I feel confident
with the mont Clark step again, is he de marve
and over nobody?

Speaker 7 (27:03):
Nobody?

Speaker 11 (27:04):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (27:04):
And And I think you're right, Marius leaf Out is
that guy who's gonna have to step up in that?

Speaker 10 (27:09):
And he was giving you a lot. I mean he
sacked Joe Burrow.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
My person did not.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
He's at critical junction. He's said he did that. That
would have helped give you that game if what happened
after didn't happen.

Speaker 8 (27:21):
If there's any silver lining to the demo injury, it
is the fact that you're going to see on the
field more and he will have the chances.

Speaker 7 (27:28):
He will have those chances. Who is the most dangerous
weapon on this on the Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
Offense outside of Young or including including outside of right
now right now, I think it's Bryce Young, But I
would throw at him Feeling into the mix too.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
He was really good last week. Yeah, yeah, he was.
He was big last week.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
He was part of the reason why they gave Philadelphia fits.
Philadelphia couldn't cover him.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
I'm going I'm gonna go with Bryce because if Bryce
is confidence isn't where it is right now, then feeling
is not effect agreed completely.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
I'm starting Cuba.

Speaker 7 (28:04):
You're going Tuba. I'm going Tuba. I'm going with David knalism.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Old the coach a little little coaching A yeah, well curveball.

Speaker 7 (28:12):
Yeah he's a dude. Yeah he's a dude.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
I know first, he like his scheme.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
He was my assistant coach when I was in a
Seattle briefly, and I worked with him thoroughly.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
I worked with him every very adamant when before he
was he was ever going all the way back to
before the off season happened and Isaiah was looking at
these guys that are possible coaching candidates. He said, wherever
Canalis ends up? Forgot about this entirely. You said it
was going to be a huge thing. And what you
said you needed a running back and you needed a young.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Quarterback to coach up sipts. Well, there you go. You
got two guys.

Speaker 7 (28:47):
He's got freaking dude.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
You will talking about somebody who was passionate almost as
good as what he does.

Speaker 7 (28:56):
My world traveling helped me out. I was like, you're
gonna go here, here, here, here's gonna be off later.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
David Kanalis is uh a student of the game, like
a genuine student in a game.

Speaker 7 (29:08):
He loves the.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Game of football. He he every aspect of it. He
likes creating concepts. He's just he's a dog. And when
I'm watching the film with the Panthers, i can't help
I know what's about to play the Cowboys, but I
can't help but smile and just laugh because I'm like,
these concepts.

Speaker 7 (29:26):
That he's creating are absolutely insane.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
And once Bryce Young is throwing the ball on time,
and once he has receivers that can make plays all,
give me the example.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Give me an example of one of these concepts.

Speaker 8 (29:44):
Look at how openly get was in that that touchdown
a lot of guys would be touchdown, would be game
winning touchdown. Right, Yeah, look at that play design and
tell me that. I mean, like you said, the evidence
is there.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
You need a savior.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Look at of the draft to every almost every play
play almost every First of all, there's a lot of motion, right,
so there's a lot of coverage declarations, deck declarers, a
lot of coverage declarations, right, so they make you declare
what your coverage is via motion. That's the first thing
that he does so as you guys go back and

(30:20):
watch film of Carolina. Look how often guys are in motion.
Look at the guys that are in motion. Right, Look
exactly how the defense has to adjust and the information
that that conveys to Bryce Young right, I don't care,
young quarterback, old quarterback. It gives you a ton of
information when you start sending guys in motion, the leverage
that they were able to create by going in these motions.

Speaker 7 (30:40):
Right, where are these guys going?

Speaker 4 (30:41):
Are they inserting or are they going outside of the
receivers that are lined up in the slot. And then
typically there's always gonna be somebody at all three levels.
These are not routes that are called. These aren't concepts
that are that are called simply because okay, we need
to get seven yards. Like they have somebody for seven yards,
they have somebody for fourteen yards. They have somebody for
the home run shot. Almost on every play, you can
go back and look and see there is a home

(31:03):
run shot on almost every one, and he has it
literally layered.

Speaker 7 (31:07):
I mean, it's a dog on seven seven up, three
layer clack, all right, it's just you watch it.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
It's like crap, he got wheel routes on almost everything.
He has deep posts and deep and goals on almost everything.
It's pretty dog on sick because as a defense, you
can't relax, you can't get focused, you can't get so
enamored by the down and distance that you're playing downhill
because somebody will literally sneak out of your air peripheral
and be open for a touchdown potential touchdown.

Speaker 7 (31:31):
Like you just saw what you just talked about. So
when you watch film, just just look at it.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Just instead of zooming in on where the ball goes,
zoom out and look at where it could have went,
and you will open your eyes and you'll be like,
oh crap. One thing that I noticed when I was
watching the Less several games with Bryce Young at the helm,
not when the red rifle was in, but I would
I expect it going in that, considering how impactful to
be Hubbard is and the fact you just gave him

(31:56):
a new contract and everything, that they would play more
off of him as far as the play action in
the passing game. But I noticed on film there was
not a ton of play actions. So I'm like, Okay,
maybe this is receiver at all. Yeah, I was like,
maybe this is an aberration for this game that I'm watching.
But then I went and I looked at shouts out
to next Gen stats, and the numbers bear out what
the film was hinting at. So surprisingly enough, the Carolina

(32:20):
Panthers and David Canalis, they only run play action twenty
one ish percent of the time on his dropbacks as far,
so that's something that the Cowboys won't have to account for.
But what it tells me is that one of the
reasons Canalis has been able to unlock Bryce Young for
the most part, he understands he's a young quarterback and
one of Bryce Young's biggest issues when he first came

(32:42):
into the league and as a rookie, was he wasn't
processing quickly enough right. So when you take the play
action out of the equation, it allows your young quarterback
to get right into his reads immediately. As opposed to
play action, you turn around and now you're worried about
pressure coming. So there's not going to be a lot
of play action. Well, I should say they're they trend
to not want to run a lot of play actions

(33:02):
seventy two percent of the time. They just give him
a straight dropback. Cowboys will have opportunities to get pressure
on him. And if they do that and they can
get to him and knock him off the spot. This
isn't Joe Burrow. If you're not Young off the spot,
you just won that rep, right, so do it. That's
that's that works in the Cowboys favor. But it's interesting
to me, but it does go to what Isaiah's saying

(33:23):
as far as explaining why Bryce Young is starting to
do better, because again Canal is he's looking at his
young quarterback who had trouble with going to get into
his reas quickly, and he took the play action out
of the equation for the most part.

Speaker 7 (33:35):
And a.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
Break to the offensive line doesn't have to set up
for as long, they don't have to hold their blocks
for as long.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
And the whole play design.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
Is based off of these levels that Isaiah's talking about.
And I mean, I'm looking at one the game winning play.
I went back and looked at it just like play
concept wise, there wasn't any motion there like no motion
on this play. It was all set and it was
really it's just levels, that's all it is. You have
to get wide open he beat Uh who is this
brad Berry on the outside. There was no safety help

(34:07):
over the top because the safety was worried about Fling
on the opposite side. And then there was a guy
in the middle of the of the the hash marks,
and then there was a guy right at the line
of scrimmage on kind of a drag route over the middle.
So levels, levels, levels, and you have to sort through
it perfectly or else something like that happens. And that
was a hell of a throw from Bryce Young, by.

Speaker 8 (34:26):
The way, And to Kyle's point about feeling, I mean,
I think Canalis loves the fact of having a guy
like Fling who exactly he's versatile, he can do anything.

Speaker 7 (34:36):
On the field receiver.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
However, this week he.

Speaker 10 (34:39):
Has to go up against Jordan Lewis, and I like that.

Speaker 8 (34:42):
I like that, I like exactly that man, because that's
a guy similar in size. I'm pretty sure that can
eliminate Adam Theelin from doing all of the different compts
and Oklahoma drills to speak.

Speaker 10 (34:56):
Oh, I mean, if we had Patrick out there, he
can cover the problem.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah, and just by proxy, just because he because he
would be Jordan Lewis in the Oklahoma drill.

Speaker 7 (35:08):
We spoke with Joran Lewis, did Josh, but Patrick's on
I R.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
He can't play this. He's got three more games.

Speaker 7 (35:14):
Just so.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
We actually went up.

Speaker 7 (35:15):
To Jordan Lewis.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Jordy Lewis did say, he said, of course he's a competitor.
He's going to try to keep me ten out of ten.
He's gonna try to knock me out ten out of ten.
But he conceded that he may not win all ten straight.

Speaker 6 (35:28):
From that's Jordan Lewis trying to He looked at your
arm and was like, yeah, you know, real quick, I
know we gotta take another break.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
I want people to understand this is not the same
Carolina Panthers from the first half and hours. No, okay,
I know there's there's been a stigma and the whole
storyline about the Carolina Panthers and blah blah blah. Listen
since their bye week and week eleven. Okay, they faced
the Kansas City Chiefs and Definny Champs. Right, they were back,
if not for the power of saying back to Champs.

Speaker 7 (36:00):
Right.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Okay, lost by three, yep, almost took them to the
white should have really should have won.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (36:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Then they played the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Crap man how
you could play Ken City. And then Tampa Bay lost
by three.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Tampa Bay with Mike Evans back by the way, Yeah,
lost by three.

Speaker 7 (36:14):
Okay, if that's not bad enough.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Then they played the Philadelphia Eagles and it almost took them.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
These are three playoff teams, right, yeah, oh yeah, and
almost took them, right and lost by six.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
So their last three games they have faced three they
placed the defending champs, they face another team that's been
in the conversation, right, then they face another team that
might be in that conversation this year, and they've lost
by a total of three six And say, what was
that twelve points?

Speaker 7 (36:43):
Three games?

Speaker 8 (36:44):
They're playing well man.

Speaker 7 (36:45):
In their defenses.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
And we'll talk about this, but they have the defenses
better than the Bengals defense and you could only muster
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Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman's glad you're
with us. Yet not the same Carolina Panthers team this
time around, gentlemen, not quite and they've lost three straight.

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They're desperate to try and find their winning ways again.
Cowboys are a little down.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
I think my it's tough. There's a lot of things
you're gonna have to do right.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
But just my overarching thought process around this game is
you cannot let the Bengals game beat you twice.

Speaker 11 (39:59):
No.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
Yeah, And you saw, you saw exactly how that could
play out. After the Amanio A Wario Special Teams Blunder
and we talked about the drive afterwards and how easy
it was for Cincinnati to drive down the field. That
could very easily if you don't have their back on
the practice field today, if you don't have a great
week of preparation, great week week of practice and put all.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
That behind you.

Speaker 5 (40:22):
Carolina Panthers are going to beat you this week, playing
and simple. You cannot let that game beat you twice.
And it's going to be tough to do that. Even
I hosted an event last night with Micah and talking
with Micah and he's still beating himself up about it
and himself and really he's one of the best motivators
that you'll ever talk to. And he is all about

(40:44):
the motivation and he's going to be right back after
it again starting today. But yesterday it was just kind
of a morning period. But you cannot let it pass
over into today.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Definitely not one.

Speaker 8 (40:54):
And if you don't think that the Carolin Carolina Panthers
are motivated, you call.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Them the Carolina the Caroliners that worked.

Speaker 8 (41:02):
We don't think they're motivated to beat the Dallas Cowboys
this week. Just think back to last year where we
beat them pretty soundly. But not only that, but we
held a press conference right before the game in Carolina
to announce that Jimmy Johnson is going.

Speaker 5 (41:16):
To be to TV time with the announcement press conference
in Carolina.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
In Carolina, half of the press box was empty because
of it.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
No we were we were here, I was we were
here remember we were watching with Nates right in the back,
and they they had the surprise.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Announcement of the Jimmy Johnson thing.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
It completely hijacked the entire day, the whole day, sidelines,
the game.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Everything listen.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
As as a beat writer, let me tell you that
was logistically a nightmare.

Speaker 8 (41:49):
Yeah, they remember, And they had beef with Nick Eatman too,
by the way, behind the scenes storyline in Carolina, because
he's about to go find that dude again, and they

(42:09):
are not happy.

Speaker 10 (42:10):
I wouldn't be happy if.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
I were them.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
They're gonna be motivated to listen. Bryce Young is playing
confident in good football. You Behoveard is doing his thing.
You got leget, you got feeling. Canalis has those guys
believing in themselves on both sides of the ball, and
they're going to be at Bank of America Stadium. The
Panthers crowd is starting to kind of buy in, starting
to believe. They've been desperate to feel something good. And

(42:35):
even in a down season that's just wrecked by adversity,
every team would still look at it win over the
Cowboys as a big deal, and the Panthers will look
at if they can get this win against the Cowboys,
they will use it as a big deal. So mentally, no,
it's not the same as beating the Eagles if they
would have last week, or the Bucks if they would

(42:56):
have or the Kansas City Chiefs if they would have
escaped with that win. But psychologically speaking, it's going to
feel just as good for the Panthers to do it
if they can do it. So if you're if you're
the Cowboys, like Kyle said, especially on a short week,
which makes it that much more difficult to turn the
page from such an emotionally shattering loss like you had
against the Bengals. Because you just said you had the

(43:16):
one on one with Michael yesterday. Okay, well the Panthers
game is right around the corner. It's right there, and
Tuesday night Michael was still hurting.

Speaker 7 (43:28):
Yeah, right, so the.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Player's day off, they haven't hit the field.

Speaker 11 (43:32):
It is that.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
But also with the I mean, I don't want to
keep bringing up injury to Demo, but that takes that hurt,
that hurts significant and it's called what it is. Some
players have more impact on a lockerom than others. And
he has a tremendous respect in his locker room. Yes,
and understand. People understand not only his energy, they understand

(43:55):
his his aura, right, his character, his resilience, his work
ethic that he had to come back from last year's injury,
and then the impact that he had and the attitude
that he had and the swag and everything that he
brought by being on the field this year. Just to
have it taken away again, people feel that just it's
very deflating and it's very hard to overcome as a
locker room.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
Just to add to that point, if you were to
name the five most impactful players leaders in the Cowboys
locker room right now? Okay, so he's up there, who's
the other guys out of those.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Four and Zach Martin, Lawrence Michaeh, Well, okay, version, but
there's five then right there.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
Four of those guys are out and have not returned yet.
Of course d Laws on his way back. But four
of those guys five, the only one is Micah and
he missed significant time too. I mean, that's the type
of season that it's been. Not to make excuses, but
it still is. It's it's crazy the amount of injuries
but have ravaged this locker room.

Speaker 8 (44:58):
But to your point, I mean, and this is poignant
because last year, a lot of the conversation was as
Micah Parsons a leader, You're going to see it in
the last few games of the season because I mean, now.

Speaker 10 (45:09):
But now he has nobody else. You know, this is
got CD on the other side. But it's like, this
is your leader. This is a definitive leader on defense.

Speaker 7 (45:18):
This is the biggest test for him.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
I'm not going to just hand him the leadership badge
in these last games because I truly think if you
really want to know, I'm not questioning the mass charage.
I'm just I'm just saying that I'm watching it have
for those that have I'm watching. I'm watching to see
how he handles the remainder.

Speaker 7 (45:36):
Of this season.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
Because even when I was on NFL Networks, you know,
people were talking about, you know, Micah and how he
was reacting. I'm like, no, no, no, you were getting
playoff Micah. In that last game, that was playoff Mike.
That was playoff Michael, because he which is why he
walked off like that. That's why you saw his reaction
like that, because he was doing literally everything that he
could to impact that game. Because they knew that that

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was most like their last chance to make the playoffs.
If they won that game, they were still in the picture.
If they lost that game, pretty much out the picture.
So you got every ounce and to and for that
to not be enough, that's the reaction that you get.
So now that your playoff hopes are pretty much gone,
who are you?

Speaker 7 (46:18):
Who are you? To the locker room even more?

Speaker 4 (46:20):
And so now because of the fact that the other
leaders are out the picture, Ye, you're the guy that's
on thee.

Speaker 7 (46:25):
How are you now going to react?

Speaker 4 (46:27):
Are you going to just go out there and just
kind of go through the motions or are you going
to step up and demand excellent from everybody I'm watching?

Speaker 10 (46:34):
Yeah, gotta be ready to run through a wall.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Now.

Speaker 5 (46:38):
I think that's a great point because, and I would
argue you've already seen that a couple times. Like you
said you saw playoff Micah last week, I think you've
seen playoff Micah the last couple of weeks, going back
before Thanksgiving and that game against Washington basically really the
game against Washington ten was the first time I stepped
up and said, Okay, that's the Micah we've been waiting
to see, not just from a sack standpoint.

Speaker 7 (47:00):
And he's always had production and effort.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
He's always there.

Speaker 7 (47:03):
That was waterboy Michael last week, he was all over it.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
I'll tell you when it began for me. It began
for me in training camp when I started to see
how he was taking Mozzi Smith under his wing and
challenging Mazzie Smith and even when the cameras weren't on
and the mics weren't on, you would see he and
Mozzie Smith running drills between practices and things like that,
and him correcting Mazie like little things that the media

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is not paying attention to because you know, it wasn't
during the media portion of practice whatever, and maybe I'm
just out there and I'm just watching an ox or whatever.

Speaker 7 (47:37):
We're there, Yeah, we're there.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
So that's when it really started to kind of click
in my head. I was like, wait a minute, I
think this version of Micah that we're about to see
in twenty twenty four is going to be different.

Speaker 7 (47:46):
And here we are fast forward to now.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
But like you said, that's when hope is on the
here's the biggest test for Yeah, there's the biggest test.

Speaker 7 (47:52):
Now, here's the biggest teste because right now with who's
on ir and who's not coming back? Right now? It's
your team, it's what are you playing for? But there's
nothing to play for? Who are you?

Speaker 4 (48:02):
And that's why I say this is the biggest test
because when you have the potential of the playoffs and
the potential is still getting a ring and all that
stuff out there is different.

Speaker 7 (48:10):
It's different than when there's no home for any of
that stuff.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Now, who are you? Right right now?

Speaker 7 (48:15):
Who are now?

Speaker 4 (48:16):
You got to get him to play for Pride and
just to watch him because I mean it's still four
games and now we talked about this versus team tank.

Speaker 7 (48:24):
Right.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
The reason players don't tank is because now you only
have four more games to put good on film.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Right.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
A lot of these players, because this is a game
of attrition, A lot of these players, not a lot,
but several of these players will just the fact is
they will not be in a Cowboys uniform next year
part of it.

Speaker 7 (48:39):
Yeah, that's part of it. Which means they're also interviewing
for the other thirty one teams as well. So he's not, No,
he's not.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
What I'm saying is this is the type of motivational
messages you look at the locker room. If you're Michael,
you say, hey, go out on your shield. Go out
on your shield. So I love what Isaiah's saying. This
is the biggest test of leadership for Michael Parsons, and
you hate how it arived, but it's here, and the
timing of it is wildly ironic considering what's about to

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happen in the offseason as far as the beginning of
his contract talk.

Speaker 5 (49:08):
Yeah, definitely gonna be a case and a talking point
going into it. All right, Tomorrow we preview the Cowboys
offense versus that Carolina Panthers defense. Like Patrick said earlier,
this defense is better than what Cincinnati brought to the table.
Can the Cowboys find a little bit more success on
the offensive side. It'll be back tomorrow with more nine
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