As we continue our Best of series, we wanted to highlight a very timely conversation. Gordon MacDonald—author, longtime pastor, and former Chancellor of Denver Seminary—joins us to share hard-won wisdom on calling, mentoring, and spiritual friendship.
Gordon’s voice has shaped generations of leaders, and this episode captures why. Through stories, insights, and honest reflection, he gives leaders a practical roadmap for building resilient lives and ministries that last.
Whether you’re a pastor, organizational leader, or simply someone seeking deeper impact, this conversation offers clarity, perspective, and hope.
What You’ll Learn-
Why spiritual friendship is essential for healthy leadership
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How to cultivate intergenerational mentoring relationships
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The stages of a leader’s calling—and how they develop over a lifetime
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Why older leaders must invest in younger leaders
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How to build communities that encourage resilience rather than burnout
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The hidden dangers leaders face in midlife and beyond
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What Gordon wishes every leader understood about marriage, family, and calling
Gordon MacDonald is a pastor, author of more than a dozen books, and the former Chancellor of Denver Seminary. For over 40 years, he has invested in leaders across the world through writing, preaching, mentoring, and spiritual formation work. His books Ordering Your Private World and Building Below the Waterline remain foundational leadership resources.
Timestamps00:00 — Introduction 02:45 — Gordon’s early calling and formation 07:10 — The mentors who shaped him 12:40 — Why intergenerational friendship matters 18:25 — The role of spiritual friendship in leadership 24:55 — Healthy vs unhealthy leadership communities 31:20 — Calling after 60: why most leaders miss it 38:15 — Marriage, family, and the real “Lord’s work” 45:40 — What the next generation needs from older leaders 52:10 — Gordon’s challenge to leaders today 57:55 — Final thoughts
Connect + Take Your Next StepFor coaching, resources, and tools for Healthy + High Impact leadership, visit: www.h2leadership.com
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