September 10, 2025 • 60 mins
By the Power of Grayskull... This Movie ExistsWelcome to this episode of The Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast! Hosts Krissy Lenz and Nathan Blackwell are joined by special guests Jordan Collier and Derrick Tesson to tackle the 1987 sci-fi fantasy spectacle Masters of the Universe. What happens when you take beloved toys, add Dolph Lundgren in a furry loincloth, and let Cannon Films work their budget magic? A movie that should have been good but becomes a fascinating study in wasted potential.The Cosmic Key to This DiscussionThe crew dives deep into this He-Man adaptation that somehow makes its titular hero a supporting character in his own movie. While Franklin Langella chews scenery magnificently as Skeletor, delivering Shakespearean gravitas to lines like "Tell me about the loneliness of good, He-Man—is it equal to the loneliness of evil?", the film suffers from an identity crisis. Is it Star Wars? Is it Conan? The answer: it's a Cannon Films production that tries to be both and succeeds at neither.Nathan defends his childhood favorite while acknowledging its flaws, giving it a nostalgic 7 out of 10 cosmic keys. The other hosts are less forgiving, with ratings ranging from 3-6, all agreeing that the movie's biggest sin is having too much plot crammed into its runtime. The discussion reveals how Masters of the Universe exemplifies the late-80s trend of studios trying to manufacture Star Wars-level franchises without understanding what made that saga work.Additional Cosmic Revelations:
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- Gwildor (Billy Barty) somehow became the real protagonist while He-Man watches from the sidelines
- Dolph Lundgren dubbed his own lines despite not being fluent in English during filming
- The film's budget constraints forced most action to Earth, making it less a He-Man movie and more a sci-fi fish-out-of-water story
- Skeletor's mask was later recycled for Star Trek: The Next Generation
- The movie features unexpected connections to Friends and Back to the Future
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks for tuning in to another episode of the Most
Excellent Eighties Movies Podcast. Want to skip those ads and
get early access, become a member at true story dot fm,
slash join and discover all the other great parks that
come with it. Hello and welcome to the Most Excellent
(00:30):
Eighties Movies Podcast. It's the podcast where a filmmaker, a
comedian and their fabulous guests travel through time to solve
the problems of the movies of the eighties that we
think we love or might have missed with these our
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modern eyes. And today we're talking about Masters of the Universe,
a movie selection from nineteen eighty seven, about which Letterboxed says,
a battle fought in the stars now comes to Earth.
When the evil Skeletor finds a mysterious power called the
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cosmic Key, he becomes nearly invincible, seizing Castle Grayskull and
the surrounding city. The Sorceress is now Skeletor's prisoner, and
he begins to drain her life force as he waits
for the moon of Eternia to align with the gray
Eye of the Universe, which will bestow godlike power upon him. However,
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courageous warrior, he Man locates the locksmith inventor Gwildor, who
created the key and has another version of it. During
a battle, one of the keys is transported to Earth,
where it's found by teenagers Julie and Kevin. Now both
he Man and Skeletor's forces arrive on Earth searching for
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the potent weapon. I don't know, Nathan, is that better
or worse than the Google descriptions.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
It's a better, longer description. Okay, Yeah, we still need
to find a happy medium.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, yeah, we do, all right, Here comes the trailer.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
There is a place where legends are more, where the
light confronts the darker. A world of incredible mystery, magic
and adventure. A world where colossal powers will collide in
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a battle to control the universe. The place is Earth,
(03:06):
the time is now. Masters of the Universe. Don Lundren
is Hethen, Frank Langella is Skeletor, and Meg Foster is
Evil Lynn Semesters of the Universe coming to Earth this summer,
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Live the Adventure.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That's a pretty accurate trailer to the experience of the film.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
I think, I don't know. The trailer did not have
nearly as much gwilldoor as the film did.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
There is no will in the trailer.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Out of the marketing.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
All my notes are how much I hate Gwildoor entirely.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Oh no, that's.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Okay, all right. I'm Chrissy Lynz, one of the directors
at the Neighborhood Comedy Theater in downtown Mesa, Arizona. And
with me as always.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Is Nathan Blackwell, independent filmmaker.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Hi Hi, and joining us today. We have a real
treat for you, gentle listeners, because we have not one,
but two fabulous guests for a movie as epic as
Masters of the Universe, which we've been threatening to review
on this podcast for years. Threatening we have two guests.
(04:37):
The first is a performer at the Neighborhood Comedy Theater
and the current producer director of the musical catering company
which performs at the Neighborhood Comedy Theater. It's Jordan Collier.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Hello everyone, thanks for having me, oh to have me.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Excited to be here, and also one of the producers
of a new hit stand up comedy show called Roll
for Charisma, which fuses the fun of D and D
and the chaos of stand up comedy into one ultra
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exciting show. It's mister Derek Tessen.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Helloa, Yeah, it's a fun one. We had a show
last night and I'm currently in pain from it with
how active that show is.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
It's it's very active and exciting and I highly recommend it.
And at the end we'll have everybody. We'll have you
tell everybody how they can follow you and find out
more and possibly come see a show. But for now
we have to talk about Masters of the Universe.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
The final episode of the podcast finally comes to the
right if we had planned it. Yeah, no, it's not
the final episode, but it's a It is a movie
that we, at least behind the scenes, been threatening to
do for a long time, since the.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Beginning, since the very beginning, and we just kept putting
it off. But now it's on Amazon Prime. It's free.
You can watch it if you have Amazon Prime. So
it became very clear, very fast that the time is
upon us to talk about Masters of the Universe. Had
any of you seen it before?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I have not. This is my first time watching it.
Jordan and I had a lovely dinner and watched the
film together. It was great.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
It was very romantic.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Great experience was fantastic. The film not so much.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So that's that's a good that's a good tagline for
the for like the movie poster, the experience is fantastic,
the movie not so much.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah, but that only counts if you're having smothered Britos
with Jordan, right.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
So this is so this is one of those movies that,
for whatever reason, we've got, like some of those like
campy sea level movies that we just end up for
whatever reason growing up on and seeing like a hundred
times this this, this was that for me. Don't worry, gentlemen,
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you can't hurt my feelings because I probably agree with
everything you'll say. Yeah, my my enjoyment of this movie
is purely on a camp level, like you know, in
a nostalgia level. So I enjoy it for what.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
It is.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Flaws in all Again, don't feel like you've got to
hold back. This will never make my top one hundred
movies of all time, but one that I find a
particular level of enjoyment for top five hundred maybe.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, definitely top five. Come on, gotta be. I think
this movie should have been good. It has all the
ingredients of a good movie, and it just never the
The dough never makes bread.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
You know, like, well, you have to understand that it's
a canon films. You know, so canon films they did
like Ninja, the Domination and Delta Force, like which I loved.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Delta Force is amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And so then so they made these beat these super
b level movies, and and towards the end of Canon films,
like Filmography, they tried to make a couple of they
tried to go really big with a couple of big
budget movies and just really like so these movies are
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are also notorious flops.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
So this was.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Superman for the Quest for Peace, terrible movie, and then
also over the top, well Sylvester Stallone.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
It's like, this is gonna be our opportunity.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
We're gonna do these big movies, except their storytelling and
business sense didn't evolve, like if anything, it's like, we're
gonna make these ten million dollar movies, but we're gonna
make them for four million dollars. You know, we're just
gonna cut the corners and they're not gonna know we
make low budget films.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Yeah, well the budget on this one was like what
twenty two million? And I think it wasn't a cannon
film's last movie before they shut down.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It certainly could be.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah, they were like.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
No more after this, We've we've told our stories, friends,
it's time for us.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
We finally told our final story.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yeah yeah, like five minut it's into this. As I'm
sitting there watching it, I'm like, oh, it's trying to
be a star War but with black stormtroopers and a
white villain. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
It's definitely trying to be a star war for sure.
But like it has it has humor, it has uh like.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Battles, it Shakespearean dialogue.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Because Franklin Angela as Skeletor is is really selling it
like he's doing. He's in a movie that no one
else is in.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Honestly, Like, if it wasn't for Franklin Angela, this would
not be one of those movies for me at all.
You know, It's it's all all you know. Dove Lungren
God Bless his heart, didn't speak really any English at
this point. He was Swedish. Did a much better job
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than Van Dam who had been doing English movies for
like ten years, you know. But it's really frank Langella
as as Skeletor. So I will go on record saying
that his villain performance as Skeletor is one of my
favorite villains, you know, in terms of of of just
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as kind of like a scenery chewing and then really
just the performance, like he sells the crap out of
it and he's going for it and you don't feel
like he got you know, like he's doing it because
he got divorced or something and needs the money or
needs a swimming pool.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
He definitely like has a lot of really intense direct
to camera dialogue that happens. And like the first scene
going into this movie in Castle Gray or what is
it Castle Gray School that they're in, I know nothing
about he Man going into this outside of like the
Cky two K, like right right, I Man star the
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Skeletor beast Man music video that they made. So it's
like that's my knowledge of he Man. So I assume
Castle Gray Skulls where Skeletor lived, not where the Sorceress
and he Man lived. But yeah, that first scene was
very like it looked like like it was a play.
You're watching a play with like how it was all shot,
because there's so many just like weird angles that look
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like you were just in the audience watching a stage
play in that first scene, which was very weird to.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Me, so I did so.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I grew up on the he Man toys, which is
probably the reason why I got my mom to rent
this movie in the first place. So, you know, there
are different So like there's the he Man toys and
then there was the he Man cartoon. So there was
a lot of stuff that weren't in the toys that
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were in the cartoon, and then there's so much that's
that was in either of them that's not in the movie.
They just kind of like there was you know, they
just kind of picked the stuff they liked. You know,
like there's no there's no laser guns in like in
he Man, in like the toys cartoon, you know that's there.
That's their star, their star warsification of it.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Yeah, that was.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, they really were. He Man really started off as
kind of a oh, Conan is big, so let's do
kind of a medieval fantasy mythology kind of thing Castle
Gray Skull. You know, you got two different sides. And
the whole idea with the toys is that like each
villain had like a big gimmick to get the kid
to buy the toy. You know, it's like, oh, this
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guy switches heads, or this guy has like a robot
arm you can attach different stuff, or like this this
bad guy you know, squirts water, you know, right, And
it was very much kind of like Conan Slash.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
It's like, oh, they're of the bird people and and
so they're like the King of the Bird people, but
Skeletor has made them a minion, you know or whatever.
So the the thing of like having those like like
beast Man and oh Cobra Guy and Blade of the
Blade people like that.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Yeah, you love Blade Jordan's Big Blade. As soon as
he's it, it's it, huh.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I didn't think it was so such a weird JUSTI
just juxtaposition to see he Man battling with a sword
and a laser gun. It's like these things could not
be two more different, like fighting styles. Are we doing
swords or are we doing laser guns? Like but apparently, yeah,
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he Man does everything. But he Man is for being
I mean, he's not the title characters called Masters of
the Universe, not he Man on the Masters of.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
The He shares Billy.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, No, he does almost nothing.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
He really doesn't. It's a Gwilldoor movie. Is He's the
central like his stuff is the central conflict of it.
Everything's kind of revolving around Gildoor. And for a character
who comic.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Relief story too, Yeah, he's.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Must be comic relief. But he's I think has the
most screen time of anyone else.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Is basically his bodyguard.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Yeah, it's like, maybe what's his name, Courtney Cox's boyfriend
might have a little bit more screen time. Kevin, Kevin
and Julie.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah, yeah, I just read Courtney Cox throughout all my.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Cox.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I was referring to them as the actors names of
the upcoming twenty twenty six Masters of the Universe movie.
So anytime Skeletor was on his on screen, like, oh,
Jared let here El was on I'm like, oh Alison
Brie Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
My gosh, is that a live action or an animated
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
I'm pretty sure it's a live action. Oh my goodness,
from the very little research I did on it.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Uh huh. And then uh oh, who was it?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
It was I dress elbow right.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I just felt that playing Man at Arms in the
twenty twenty six one.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Which has got to be a stage name that can't
be like his birth name.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Right, he wasn't a man when he was born. He
was a baby. Was he called baby at arms?
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Right, infant for arms?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
So yeah, the movie starts out with like an info
dump that like truly had me baffled, and I take
extensive notes, but I was like, what on earth is
happening here? And like it was rather like a play
because it just like Skeletor sashe about the place, being
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like I've taken over and you are captured as soon
as the moon goes here, right to have your power?
And I was just like, slow down, buddy, this is
too much. This is too much information for me to
take in.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Right now. Obviously part two where we're what they call
media in res, right, we're starting in the middle of action.
The Sorceress has already been captured on Matte Painting World,
and then the heroes basically are in like the last
the third act of their adventure. You know, they've gone
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through this whole thing that that Skeletor has already taken over.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, but it was a little too top heavy for me,
and I was just like, there's no way I can
remember all this. Let's just get to the fighting. So
he Man finally shows up it is Dolph Lundgren who
are my son. Rocket is a huge fan of Oh he's.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
An interesting guy. He is interesting.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Yeah, is an interesting guy.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Like again, I understand you have to understand that he
did this movie not being able to just he was
not fluent in English at all for this movie, you know,
and that.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Way they dubbed all his lines.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Well, so here's here's the thing. He dubbed his lines.
He had it contractually that he could get three attempts
to do it himself in terms of the dubbing. And again,
just imagine if you had to make a movie in Swedish.
And so he did the movie. He did the movie
in real life, and then he got those three attempts
to do his own voice, and they finally kept his voice,
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probably because they were just at a time to replace it.
But yeah, so so he dubbed his own voice. It
does sound eighty yard, but it's him.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
It makes so much sense now. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
There are a lot of non Dolph Lundgren adr lines
going throughout this movie too, though, and it's very it
throws you off, like when Skeletor's fall spoiler alert for
the end of this movie. But I don't think you
need a spoiler alert if you're listening to this podcast
right now. As Skeletor's falling not screaming, and it has
like the Wilhelm scream thing happening. It was and like
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when like Courtney Cox and Kevin were hugging, they had
like lines their adrd over. So it's like there's plenty
of like dialogue that goes in where there's no dialogue
happening during the recording of it.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Well, there's so much friggin' plot. There's so much to explain,
Like there's so much happening at any moment in this movie.
This does not suffer from a lack of plot. There's
bcde plots. There's Courtney Cox's whole thing where her parents
are dead and she wants to move to New Jersey
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to leave her boyfriend who she still loves very deeply behind.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
I love that dream for her straight to Jersey.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
If you can make it in Jersey, you can make
it anywhere. That's what they say.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
He's a realist.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, her parents died in a plane crash, and like
that's a sad fact that we're reminded of throughout the movie.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
And have yourself for Yeah, and we realized that it
was her dad who was flying like it was so
so it really.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Her unbomber father. He had he had the big old
obomber glasses at the end of that film.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Fun fact. Yeah, her mom is played by Chris Pine's
real mom. Yeah, there are a lot of funny Star
Trek connections with this movie.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Of course there are, of course there are. So we
need to talk of a little bit about gwildor.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, so Billy Party, which you've you've probably seen in
like things like Willow and movies.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yeah, so with this character. So, this character was designed
specifically for this film, did not exist in the Masters
of the Universe universe prior, and he was their comic
relief to replace Orco from the cartoons because Orco is
too hard to make work. And it's like, like what
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gets me with like comic relief characters. I enjoy a
good comic relief character, but when the characters in the
film acknowledge it as comic relief as well, because there's
so many lines where people are laughing at gwildor for
his mere existence that I'm like, why, like, like come on,
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I don't need to hear fake laughs about this character
right now?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I feel like the eterniums are are you know, like
they come off as very enlightened, but they're still kind
of racist.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Like and I didn't need to see Gwildor attempt to
talk to a cow. Cow's cute. I love a cow,
gwildor going over his arm. I communicate with it, and
just like I just everything about Guildor just bothered me.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Another thing with Gwildor is that he looks like he's
melting all the time, and you feel terrible for the
for Billy Barty inside m you know.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
The makeup was not incredible.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
He was very textured, exactly, Okay, So so yeah, So
basically they can't afford to be in he Man Land
in Matt Painting World for too long. That's why they
get portal jumped to our time, you know, And so
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they could have the sci fi people running around in
modern and day you know, uh, small town California and
and and honestly.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
In the middle of the desert as well when we
first meet he Man.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Right exactly. And so the idea is that they've got
to get this the what is it called the key,
cosmic key, the cosmic key. I'm the one who's seen
it under times like I obviously don't care about the details.
They've got to get the cosmic key because Skeletor has
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one of those. Gwildor made a copy, and that's going
to be the thing that can get them to stop,
to get back home and stop the bad guys because
they're draining the sorcersus powers. Become masters of the universe,
you know. Basically, Castle Gray Skull is where you can
because receive the powers of the universe and become kind
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of godly, you know.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yeah. For anyone who hasn't watched this film and has
listening to this right now, Gwildor picture jar Jar Binks
was the catalyst of all of the events of the
film and was the thing that helped solve the problems
of the film as well. So he created the problem,
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he also created the solution as well. And he is
a busy only one.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, and he's the only one trying to fix it,
trying to get them on task, trying to you know,
use the device, and then everyone else is basically fighting
amongst each other or acting as security.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Yeah, it's trying to protect him.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I have such a problem with Courtney Cox though, because
she was like, uh, friend to he Man because she
gets caught up in the battle and he Man's like,
I will save you. Where are my cape? And then
from there on out she's just the most useless, helpless
being who only exists in the story to be threatened
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and hurt or tricked because she got.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Very Oh yeah, she was easily tricked. She turned on
them so quickly.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Yeah that was that was so fast.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, evil Lynne impersonated her mom, who is dead, and
she immediately buys into it and it's like, oh, yes,
I will steal for you, thanks mom.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Just a general general knowledge, like they took the key.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
She took the key and it was like, no, bitch,
you gave it to it.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Just generally if parents comes to you and says, oh,
I had to go off in secret, sorry about this.
Don't trust it. Maybe you don't.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
That's only true for Spider Man, but yeah I had.
There are a lot of like weird parts of this movie,
but one of my favorites. One of my favorite things
is that the principal from Back to the Future, principal Strickland,
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is in this movie as Lachlan the cop.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Basically yeah, yeah, yeah, lubick He's basically he's basically playing himself.
He realized that he plays he's playing the same character
effectively in both movies. Yeah, and it's funny. It's like
they literally opened a portal and stole a character from
another movie.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Yeah, Lubick was my second least favorite character.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
No, he was my very favorite. I love the.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Most useless cop.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, he would always be, and I also enjoyed him,
but also recognized that he was a terrible obstruction all
at all times.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
He said, no, one messes with Lubick, and everyone messed
with Lubick. He did nothing constructive.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
But at the end, for no reason, he decides to
stay in Eternia and be a king with a girlfriend
who he's like, and.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
They're like wait, he's like so so yeah, we're jumping
to the end, but basically like the good guys win
and yeah spoiler. And then he's sitting there like dressed
like royalty and he's got a woman and how much
time has passed? Like four hours, you know exactly, And
I got a castle, I got a woman. What do
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you know. It's like what more than it's like wait
a minute, no, no you don't get the castle.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, in the room.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah, you can't stay in Castle Gray Skull, like we'll
find you a cottage or something like.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
They have a way to ask to project messages to
the masses in the middle of a desert apparently, So
it's like, Okay, it doesn't look like the city was
entirely built up around the castle, so it's like, okay,
there's a this is gonna be me going against people
who are power now at this point. So it's like, okay,
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so the rulers of Eternia are really just keeping everything
to themselves and lubicks for some reason getting a piece
of that pie at the end.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It favors for loyalty.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Huh, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I also me in my notes, like was kept making
note of like how free and easy Kevin was with
pushing that red button on the front of.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
The key, showing everyone he would press the key thing
which is like the size of a blender, but a
bunch of buttons all around it and it would spin
at the top. But basically he'd press the red button
and then there would be glowing energy above them. And
I really loved every time they did that because I
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was always so fascinated to see how well the actors
would look at the same spot or not, because they're
just like they have nothing, no reference to look at.
Especially in eighties movies, it's always fun to see like
where the eye lines are for the visual effects because
they're so confused about where they're supposed to be looking,
you know, and how they're gauging their reaction to it.
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Some are like, wow, film thing.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Maybe uh I will I will get into that in
my deep cut.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
But then at the end he's like, I memorize the
song that plays when you hit the red button. And
I was like, oh, so it's good that he hit
the red button over and over.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
He's got the at the end right right, he's good
phones because he's he's a master soundmaker.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Yeah, that was another thing, like Glen Door mentioned that like, oh,
music's really important blah blah blah blah blah, and like
that was twenty thirty minutes prior to him being like, yeah,
I do music. I recognize this thing. It's like did
that did you not make that connection when you were
next to each other and him talking about how music
is essentially the way to travel like this was this
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was discussed in the music shop like you were, well,
if not earlier, I think it was actually before the
music shop that that uh uh I already forgot his name.
I couldn't remember it was a GW or g L.
But it's like he he mentions it like a couple
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times prior to the like, oh, we need music to
be able to get us back.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah. But Kevin is still he still has that moment
of like refusing the call. He's like, oh, my girlfriend
is dying. Uh, the world is on fire, Eternia is
going to end. But oh, I'm no master sound maker.
I'm just Kevin. I can't help you. And it's like,
would you shut up and just play the chords? Like,
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just do it?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I recognize these chords the first us.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yeah, so like and they're amazed that he's able to
remember this, and so are all Eternians like tone deaf,
Like is that a thing that is native to humans?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Because he's the guy at the music store did say, oh,
mister perfect pitch mmm.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Chekov's notes many And what also drives me insane about
gwildor I'm gonna everything, I'm gonna be mad at is
just a root cause of him is him being like, oh,
I don't remember the tones how to get home. But
at the end of the film is like, oh, you're
you want to go back, you know, two years from
the date that we got you. Fine, babe, sends you
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to a location that I know nothing about. You know,
I somehow know these tones.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
We never established the fact that it controls time at all,
Like it was just always space, like they were able
to go to any planet at any time. And it's
not until it became story convenient that that that time
was involved, Like at the very last five minutes of
the movie, Yeah, couldn't they have traveled before Skeletor took
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over Castle grays Call, you know.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
And there's a time loop that has happened in this film,
but they they don't show it because as Courtney Cox's
turning around to say hey, wait and then travels off,
Gwildor didn't hear what she wanted, so he had to
have like brought her back. He's like, hey, what were
you trying to tell me this? Okay, fine, We're gonna
send you a year earlier. So there's a time loop
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that was just cut because there's no way Gildoor knew
that she wanted in her heart to go back before
her parents Yo kick the bucket, because she.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Doesn't ask for it. He's like, I can send you
back in time, and she's like there's no need and.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
He's until like, wait a minute, willdoor then flash?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
He just surpriser, Yeah, surprise.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
He's gonna love this.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
What if she hated it? Yeah, I am at quilledoor.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
I was going to Jersey quilldor.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I had a whole house to myself.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Yeah. Yeah, just attacks her mom because she thinks it's
evil in again.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I also love that in her house where she was
moving away this night, on the night that this all happens,
she was moving to New Jersey. Her house is like
hardly packed up at all.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Oh yeah, full furniture, and.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
She left behind the article about her parents dying and
a picture of them all together, like she's like, don't
eat this in Jersey, so long, suckers. She just left
that stuff behind.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I'm like, no, yeah, I didn't pay attention to like
if they had any type of reference of time frame
from when her parents passed to now, because I know
they had the headstones. I didn't pay attention to like,
oh when did they pass versus is when the current
setting is.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Well, guilf Door figured it out.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah, you figured it out. There's there's still so much
I want to say, uh, why are there no people
in this city? Why are there no people in this
city Skeletor there's like the guy who runs the music shop,
Lubick and his uh his.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Like three cops that show up at the.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Skeletor taking when Skeletor is taking over the city and
our dimension, there's literally no people.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yeah, the marching down the street was weird, like people.
Lynn was in a scene somewhere else and then the
next scene she's marching in front of Skeletor with a
I want to say Krang, but that's not right.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Yes, you're right.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
I wanted to talk about KRK because I just love
everything about what's going on there.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
The spot, it's on you.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Uh, It's just it's like an orc with a perm.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
It's like the the design is just so it's so
great and so awful at the same time. It sticks
out like a sore thumb, Like I just love that.
That that that's what they went with. They saw that
costume and they were like perfect, yeah, no notes.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
No, I can't remember his name, not beast Man, not Blade,
not Card, but the fourth one, the one who's whose
Skeletre is Zapps to death who did nothing wrong, like
he was the most innocent of all of them. Just yeah, yeah,
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it's just like we don't want their talents to be wasted.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
It's like, and I loved I loved Skeletor's mask, Like
we talked about for how good Franklin Jela is a Skeletor.
But like his mask, the makeup is actually pretty good
except for the nose.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yes, yeah, it's tough because it's got to be a
skeleton nose, which is, you know, no cartilage, and so
they're basically hiding the point of the nose with like
black makeup.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
It reminded me of like a Halloween costume, just like
the very Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
So here's one of the fun Star Trek references. That
mask appears again in Star Trek the Next Generation. They
just for whatever reason, they reused it when Wharf fights
like has a combat training program. In the Hula deck
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the skull there's like a white skull head guy. It's like, oh,
that guy looks cool And I never pieced it together
until I read the trivia. So that's the Skeletor mask.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
I love it, huh. I also love the part where
he man is skysurfing.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
That was that they're standing, but they're also trying to
sit at the same time, so like on a standing platform,
but like in a weird like sitting posh my core.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah. The thing that's so funny about the Cannon Films
is that this is a sci fi movie made by
people who don't know or like sci fi m M.
And so they're saying, oh, yeah, let's give them a
big disc or we'll have them have swords and laser guns.
We'll give them this outfit. Like they're not necessarily they're
(37:35):
not making this for sci fi fans per se. You know,
they're they're coming up with their own weird stuff. At
least the people have.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
The knowledge of, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Have a feeling like the product, like I'm talking about
like the the heads of the studio, Like I have
a feeling like the director and like some of the
production people. They wanted to do something cool, but it
was like, no, no, this is good, just do this
instead from Golan and Globis from the Cannon Films, guys.
(38:08):
You know, like I never got the sense that even
with like with like super like when they also did
Superman four, like they understood Superman at all.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Right, Yeah, and they didn't really understand he Man as
being like a product for kids.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Yeah, it definitely wasn't a kids movie, Like, no, not
at all. The series was made to sell the toys.
Like that's why he Man was made, was to sell
the toy.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Right, Yeah, it's they haven't done he Man so dirty
because he Man itself was a thirty minute commercial for toys.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, But I again, I think Dolph Lungren was beautifully cast.
He is a beautiful man. He did his best, even
though he is not the star of this movie whatsoever?
Speaker 5 (39:03):
Uh the star, he's the star.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Derek quilledor who's the villain Derek also Guildoor.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
But yeah, like I tried to get Rocket to watch
this movie with me because he's he's a big Dolph
lungering guy. He's a big he's a big Drago guy.
He just wanted to tell me facts about Dolph Lungren
and then leave the room. He wanted no part of
Masters of the Universe.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Why does your son know so much about Dolph Lungren.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Because he loves Ivan Drago.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna I list.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
He would just come in and say, Mom, is your
movie still on and I'd be like, yeah, it has like.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
To your movie to yeah, your movie to rocket.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
He would say, you know, Dolph Lunggren's a genius and
he is like eight degrees and like he's a doctor
of science and medicine. And I was like, okay, thanks.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
I do noutes mom.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Uh huh uh. This movie was definitely longer than it
needed to be, Like I paused it a lot. I
paused a lot and walked away, and then you know,
had to come back and be like, how is there
still forty minutes left of this movie?
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Uh? See, I didn't pause it because if I would
have paused it, I wouldn't have continued watching it.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Yeah, we just had to just let it happen to us.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Just come through, just submit, all right.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Who who has something in their notes we haven't talked
about yet?
Speaker 4 (40:51):
All right?
Speaker 2 (40:51):
I feel like, let's see.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
There is one line of dialogue and that the IMDb
page age has. This is like one of their only
quotes that are on there. But when when skeletor as
he's like about to defeat he man before he just
falls into a pit, that like, uh tell me that
the loneliness of good he man is equal to the
(41:16):
loneliness of evil. It's like, oh yeah, hurt you. I
could fix them.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
I read that Franklin Jella wrote that line.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
That's great, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
He also he also has a Shakespeare quote in the movie.
I forget what it is, but one of my favorite
lines I wrote this down was beast Man full force
attack at my command.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
It's like a little haiku mm hmmm.
Speaker 6 (41:52):
I like gwildor at the very beginning he says I
don't like adventures.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
It was like right.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
It was like right before they go through the portal
or something, wasn't.
Speaker 6 (42:03):
It Like it was like we're getting all the exposition,
we're setting things up, and he just.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
He's a Bilbo Baggins.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Or when Evil Limb's like, oh gray skulls ours and
the skills is like no mine, it's like oh damn.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
I also love that Gwildor when he first is inviting
them over to the house, he's like unlocking his door
and he's like, remember when we used to not lock
our doors. We'll get back there someday.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Color.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
But the one thing I do like about Gildoor is
and it only was it was only Kevin and Lubic,
who are both like what the what, what the hell
is this thing? Like it was a scene where he's like,
I'm wearing We're wearing the local clothing, so no one
will recognize us dressed like yeah, yeah, he'ss et when
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they like the checker glasses on and and then lu
Bek was like, what the hell is that? It's like, yeah,
that should have been the reaction of everyone who saw.
Speaker 5 (43:08):
Gwildor for the whole movie.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
You had one of those like large orange like orangutang
faces where it's kind of like.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
And at the end when they're all in their Eternia finery,
he's got little bow's.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Os yeah, like and is like like the Star Wars
Awards ceremony, look.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
Yeah, where he's got the look on his face where
the look on his face is just saying I'm a
silly guy. And I know I'm a silly guy, and
I just like hat it. I hate it. So I
am irrationally angry at Gwildoor and all of his choices
the silliness. Also when he when he transitioned the car
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from being a rudimentary internal combustion to Eternia Magic, where
did he get parts that has attorneyal language on it.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
M that's the that's the biggest plot hole in this movie,
that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
I also like how they just throw out random sci
fi terms that had no like, oh, we just need
a displacement regulator. Oh, I got one gator. Oh I
got one of those here.
Speaker 5 (44:22):
It's like I wrote, I wrote that down. That was
one of my quotes. If I can find it.
Speaker 6 (44:26):
Yeah, I had to go back and like get those
lines verbatim because they were wonderful.
Speaker 5 (44:32):
I can find them.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
Who is Duncan? Okay, I'm going through quotes right now,
and they referred to him as Duncan. I'm like Duncan.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
So did the actress who played the Sorcerer. Her name
was Christina Pickles.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, she's She's Monica, So it's a it's a friend's
tie in. She's Monica and Ross's mom on Friends.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Oh that's funny.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
Okay. The one thing cinematically like in terms of just
set design that I did like is when they were
doing the portal key to get back to Gray Skull,
and it was like, since it wasn't like the portal
key that was creating a portal, but it like it
where it like did an orb of where it took
the scenery with them scenery. I thought that was cool.
(45:22):
I did enjoy that the set design, it would have
been great. Willdor wasn't there when it happened.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Look, but Lubick is there. And that's how it gets
to So on a scale of one cosmic key to
ten cosmic keys, Mmm, how many cosmic keys do we
give Masters of the Universe.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
It it was bad, go for but not so bad
that it's good, right, I mean it's like a three
to four for me.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Wow, Okay, three to four, my goodness, is not very
many cosmic keys. You did? You did, and you're gonna
have to watch it a third time just to be
sure you don't like it.
Speaker 4 (46:15):
Yeah, I'm gonna watch it right before I watched the
twenty twenty six Masters of the Universe.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
There you go, there you go.
Speaker 6 (46:21):
For academic reasons, I would give it. I'm a little
higher than Derek. I gave it five cosmic keys, okay, because.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
My reasoning.
Speaker 6 (46:33):
There was there was entertaining pockets of it, and I
did enjoy elements of it.
Speaker 5 (46:39):
But as you said before, there's just so much going on.
It's confusing.
Speaker 6 (46:43):
It's not something that I will revisit because it's so bad.
It's good, but I was entertained in some parts.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Yeah, I think that's fair for sure. So Nathan, this
is a childhood favorite.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Okay, so okay, so I fully so this is I'm
doing it on nostalgic personal entertainment. This is not an
objective opinion on it. Like if if I was going
to be objective in terms of the quality of the movie.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
Like.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
If if I had like an amnesia episode and then
had to rewatch it, I would go, what the fuck
is this movie and give it give it something way lower.
But I'm going to give it a seven. I'm sorry
it you know again, I'm this is not one of
my top one hundred films. But it's just tied to
a silliness of one of those movies you saw, like
(47:41):
Beast Master or whatever, or or even Buckeroo Bonzai, like
that doesn't make any sense to most people, but just
because it got programmed early in your brain. Yeah, you know,
like the stuff I remember and the stuff I like
is is has very little to do with the story
or the dialogue. You know, it's the general silliness and
(48:04):
setting of it, and really frankl Angela.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Yeah, yeah, he's great part.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Excellent. So I'm all gonna go right in between you guys.
So we're gonna cover all the bases. We're gonna have three,
four or five, six, okay, and seven from Nathan. So
I give it a six because I really thought this
should have been a good movie, Like if if they
had given a better editor another pass. I think there's
(48:36):
a good movie in here.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
They just couldn't if there was less movie. If there
was less movie.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
There was significantly less movie, it would have been much
much better. Yes, I agree, less movie, but it just
needed to be chiseled out a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (48:57):
So.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Yeah, so I give it a six. But I didn't
have a bad time when I was watching it. The
number of times that I paused it and was just like,
good lord, there's so much aside. I was like, okay,
all right.
Speaker 4 (49:10):
Let's.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Where are they gonna take this? For forty five more minutes?
Speaker 5 (49:15):
Yea more minutes.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Let's see, let's see what Eternia has to say about this. Also,
what was the significance of the little ball of Eternia
she had at.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
The end, Like, I don't well, I think they were
trying to because there's originally a sequel planned for this movie. Ew,
so that might have tied into what this is one
of those men?
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah, being before they even made the first one they
said there's gonna be a sequel to this. You know,
this is them trying to manufacture a franchise.
Speaker 6 (49:47):
That's that Star Wars brain again, thinking that they're going
to have a trilogy.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Right, yep, yep, yep, yep. All right, so let's talk
about deep cut. Recommendy that's my new theme song for it. Uh,
what can we recommend based on liking this movie or
experiencing this movie, not necessarily liking it, but experiencing this movie,
(50:15):
you should also experience what Derek.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
The episode of Community intro to Recycled Cinema, if you
love Gildoor, they got Garrett playing glip Glop, which he
has a he has a tennis ball at the end
of the stick, and there was the do we look
at Garrett? Do we look at the tennis ball? It's like,
why would you why would it be I hold in
the tennis ball if you were looking at but his
voice exactly the same as Gilldors But it's just a
(50:40):
little green alien guy with boxing gloves that's doing this example, Like,
so yeah, if you if you enjoy this movie, you
would unironically enjoy the episode intro to Recycled Cinema because
it's similar production value.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Excellent, And that's an episode of Community.
Speaker 4 (51:00):
Yes, do you know what? Like?
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Season or episode is?
Speaker 4 (51:04):
Season six, episode number eight?
Speaker 5 (51:09):
I need to go back and watch that.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Making a note, make a note. But what about you, Jordan,
what is your deep cut recommendation?
Speaker 6 (51:20):
Yes, I said before, I'm not sure how deep cut
this is, but I recently watched this movie, like maybe
two months ago.
Speaker 5 (51:27):
Big Trouble in Little.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
China Nathan's favorite movie.
Speaker 5 (51:32):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 6 (51:35):
It's like the like so much going on, and like
the fantasy elements and like the humor.
Speaker 5 (51:43):
I obviously I think A.
Speaker 6 (51:46):
Big Trouble Little China is much better, but it just
kind of like if you like, if you like that,
then you know, check out there.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
It is signed by John Carpenter.
Speaker 6 (52:00):
That is super exciting. I'm making my way through his
filmography and I told I told.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
Him that it was the best movie ever made. Yeah,
I don't know, and he said, yeah, no, that's literally
what he said. I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
So he agrees, Jordan, have you gotten to They Live yet? No?
Speaker 6 (52:24):
I want things to be on streaming, So I'm waiting
for that one to be on streaming.
Speaker 4 (52:30):
That's a good.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
That's a good, like climax to the marathon rather than
to have because I'm kind of a John Carpenter officionado
like that. That's that's honestly, even though I Big Trouble
is my favorite, like They Live is probably his.
Speaker 6 (52:45):
Okay, So yeah, I'll get through some of the other
ones first and then I'll kind of leave that one, yeah,
towards the back.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
All right, great recommendation. I love it, Nathan. What have
you got for me?
Speaker 4 (52:57):
So?
Speaker 2 (52:57):
I would say, so a movie that kind of does
that's more accessible and kind of actually has the camp
and so bad it's good and actually is kind of
fun and campy and and does what this kind of
what we wish it would have done is the nineteen
eighties Flash Gordon you know, soundtrack by Queen.
Speaker 7 (53:22):
Yeah, it's it's, it's it's You could run them back
to back and think that they reuse some of each
other's sets and costumes, but Flash Gordon is is more cohesive.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
It's it's one of those movies I didn't grow up on.
I actually grew up on more of the nineteen thirties
Flash Gordon stuff, So I kind of scoffed at the
eighties silly version. You know, it's the eight The eighties
Flash Gordon is almost like like a musical, a rock
(53:55):
musical where no one sings, you know, it's the music
itself that kind of becomes a rock musical, like the
Queen music. But it's a lot of fun, and so
it kind of it's kind of a better version of
Masters of the Universe.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
Should we review it for this podcast? I've never seen it,
I think.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
So yeah, and I only saw it like maybe four five.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
Years ago, So oh nice. I would love to see it,
and we'll bring you both back to discuss it and
you can compare Masters of the Universe.
Speaker 4 (54:27):
Is there a Gwilldor?
Speaker 2 (54:30):
There is there? They have a Russian scientist that's the
closest to gwildor okay, okay, there's no, there's no. There's
kind of aliens, but there's not really aliens.
Speaker 4 (54:43):
They've got that's so concerned about aliens as I am
come a.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
Jar jar right, Yeah, No, I would say, no, there's
not there's there's Timothy Dalton.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
Oh, I love Timothy Dalton.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
A young Timothy Dalton. And then there's also Brian Blessed
with hawk Wings so interesting. Yeah, who played Boss Nasts.
So it's kind of a jar jar connection, but not really.
He's kind of worth it though.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
Mmm. I love that. I just realized while you were
talking that this movie really reminds me of a better
version of it, Ice Pirates.
Speaker 4 (55:23):
Mmmm Pirates.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
Ice Pirates is amazing Pirates.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
I feel like Ice Pirates is a slightly like lateral move.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
Yeah, that's not my deep cut recommendation.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
They're in the same shelf. They're in the same shelf, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
Their posters are next to each other in someone's living
room for sure.
Speaker 4 (55:47):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
But my deep cut recommendation, and Jordan you actually touched
on it was that I immediately knew when Gwildor was
like I hate Adventures, that my deep cut recommended was
going to be the Lord of the Rings because you
got little guys who hate adventures and hate leaving their
(56:10):
little hometown being forced to go on an epic adventure.
But at the opposite of He Man, where we're saying
he Man needed less movie to be better. Lord of
the Rings you couldn't give us enough of that movie.
We wanted extended cuts that were four hours long. We
were like, more of this movie would make it a
good movie. So it's the exact opposite.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
Until the Hobbit.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
I hat until the Hobbit, Yes.
Speaker 4 (56:36):
The animated Hobbit movie. I got a little sad after
Bilbo stole the ring from Smiegel. I'm like, all, poor.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
Guy, yeah, poor little guy.
Speaker 4 (56:49):
I was a very I was a very ampathetic child.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
Mmm, you were ampathetic.
Speaker 4 (56:57):
Yeah, it was empathetic, but amped up. I'm not me
doing a verbal flood.
Speaker 5 (57:05):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (57:06):
I also say ampathetic.
Speaker 5 (57:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (57:09):
Sure, my accent came out and I you know what
my accent is?
Speaker 1 (57:14):
All right, lovely, Well, thank you so much for listening,
Thank you for being with us. Here at the end,
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We've been starting with you. Let's start with you. Where
(57:35):
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So roll for Chrisma Comedy on Instagram is how you
(58:03):
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Excellent And Jordan, where can people support you and the
Musical Catering Company?
Speaker 6 (58:12):
Yeah, so we are at the Neighborhood Comedy Theater first
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of course I know that information. Yeah, first Friday of
the month, we do about an hour and a half
(58:34):
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It's a ton of fun.
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It is a fun show.
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do that show. Nathan, where can people follow your filmmaking endeavors?
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Yes, those Squishy Studios dot com you can find our
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And I'm going to ask these cats, what is the
worst movie or TV show or book that you love?
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Oh, and mine's not going to be Masters of the Universe.
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(00:30):
Eighties Movies Podcast. It's the podcast where a filmmaker, a
comedian and their fabulous guests travel through time to solve
the problems of the movies of the eighties that we
think we love or might have missed with these our
(00:50):
modern eyes. And today we're talking about Masters of the Universe,
a movie selection from nineteen eighty seven, about which Letterboxed says,
a battle fought in the stars now comes to Earth.
When the evil Skeletor finds a mysterious power called the
(01:14):
cosmic Key, he becomes nearly invincible, seizing Castle Grayskull and
the surrounding city. The Sorceress is now Skeletor's prisoner, and
he begins to drain her life force as he waits
for the moon of Eternia to align with the gray
Eye of the Universe, which will bestow godlike power upon him. However,
(01:37):
courageous warrior, he Man locates the locksmith inventor Gwildor, who
created the key and has another version of it. During
a battle, one of the keys is transported to Earth,
where it's found by teenagers Julie and Kevin. Now both
he Man and Skeletor's forces arrive on Earth searching for
(01:59):
the potent weapon. I don't know, Nathan, is that better
or worse than the Google descriptions.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
It's a better, longer description. Okay, Yeah, we still need
to find a happy medium.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, yeah, we do, all right, Here comes the trailer.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
There is a place where legends are more, where the
light confronts the darker. A world of incredible mystery, magic
and adventure. A world where colossal powers will collide in
(02:44):
a battle to control the universe. The place is Earth,
(03:06):
the time is now. Masters of the Universe. Don Lundren
is Hethen, Frank Langella is Skeletor, and Meg Foster is
Evil Lynn Semesters of the Universe coming to Earth this summer,
(03:30):
Live the Adventure.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That's a pretty accurate trailer to the experience of the film.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
I think, I don't know. The trailer did not have
nearly as much gwilldoor as the film did.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
There is no will in the trailer.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Out of the marketing.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
All my notes are how much I hate Gwildoor entirely.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Oh no, that's.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Okay, all right. I'm Chrissy Lynz, one of the directors
at the Neighborhood Comedy Theater in downtown Mesa, Arizona. And
with me as always.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Is Nathan Blackwell, independent filmmaker.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Hi Hi, and joining us today. We have a real
treat for you, gentle listeners, because we have not one,
but two fabulous guests for a movie as epic as
Masters of the Universe, which we've been threatening to review
on this podcast for years. Threatening we have two guests.
(04:37):
The first is a performer at the Neighborhood Comedy Theater
and the current producer director of the musical catering company
which performs at the Neighborhood Comedy Theater. It's Jordan Collier.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Hello everyone, thanks for having me, oh to have me.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Excited to be here, and also one of the producers
of a new hit stand up comedy show called Roll
for Charisma, which fuses the fun of D and D
and the chaos of stand up comedy into one ultra
(05:19):
exciting show. It's mister Derek Tessen.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Helloa, Yeah, it's a fun one. We had a show
last night and I'm currently in pain from it with
how active that show is.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
It's it's very active and exciting and I highly recommend it.
And at the end we'll have everybody. We'll have you
tell everybody how they can follow you and find out
more and possibly come see a show. But for now
we have to talk about Masters of the Universe.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
The final episode of the podcast finally comes to the
right if we had planned it. Yeah, no, it's not
the final episode, but it's a It is a movie
that we, at least behind the scenes, been threatening to
do for a long time, since the.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Beginning, since the very beginning, and we just kept putting
it off. But now it's on Amazon Prime. It's free.
You can watch it if you have Amazon Prime. So
it became very clear, very fast that the time is
upon us to talk about Masters of the Universe. Had
any of you seen it before?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I have not. This is my first time watching it.
Jordan and I had a lovely dinner and watched the
film together. It was great.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
It was very romantic.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Great experience was fantastic. The film not so much.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So that's that's a good that's a good tagline for
the for like the movie poster, the experience is fantastic,
the movie not so much.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah, but that only counts if you're having smothered Britos
with Jordan, right.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
So this is so this is one of those movies that,
for whatever reason, we've got, like some of those like
campy sea level movies that we just end up for
whatever reason growing up on and seeing like a hundred
times this this, this was that for me. Don't worry, gentlemen,
(07:29):
you can't hurt my feelings because I probably agree with
everything you'll say. Yeah, my my enjoyment of this movie
is purely on a camp level, like you know, in
a nostalgia level. So I enjoy it for what.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
It is.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Flaws in all Again, don't feel like you've got to
hold back. This will never make my top one hundred
movies of all time, but one that I find a
particular level of enjoyment for top five hundred maybe.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, definitely top five. Come on, gotta be. I think
this movie should have been good. It has all the
ingredients of a good movie, and it just never the
The dough never makes bread.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
You know, like, well, you have to understand that it's
a canon films. You know, so canon films they did
like Ninja, the Domination and Delta Force, like which I loved.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Delta Force is amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And so then so they made these beat these super
b level movies, and and towards the end of Canon films,
like Filmography, they tried to make a couple of they
tried to go really big with a couple of big
budget movies and just really like so these movies are
(09:03):
are also notorious flops.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
So this was.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Superman for the Quest for Peace, terrible movie, and then
also over the top, well Sylvester Stallone.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
It's like, this is gonna be our opportunity.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
We're gonna do these big movies, except their storytelling and
business sense didn't evolve, like if anything, it's like, we're
gonna make these ten million dollar movies, but we're gonna
make them for four million dollars. You know, we're just
gonna cut the corners and they're not gonna know we
make low budget films.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Yeah, well the budget on this one was like what
twenty two million? And I think it wasn't a cannon
film's last movie before they shut down.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It certainly could be.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah, they were like.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
No more after this, We've we've told our stories, friends,
it's time for us.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
We finally told our final story.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yeah yeah, like five minut it's into this. As I'm
sitting there watching it, I'm like, oh, it's trying to
be a star War but with black stormtroopers and a
white villain. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
It's definitely trying to be a star war for sure.
But like it has it has humor, it has uh like.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Battles, it Shakespearean dialogue.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Because Franklin Angela as Skeletor is is really selling it
like he's doing. He's in a movie that no one
else is in.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Honestly, Like, if it wasn't for Franklin Angela, this would
not be one of those movies for me at all.
You know, It's it's all all you know. Dove Lungren
God Bless his heart, didn't speak really any English at
this point. He was Swedish. Did a much better job
(10:57):
than Van Dam who had been doing English movies for
like ten years, you know. But it's really frank Langella
as as Skeletor. So I will go on record saying
that his villain performance as Skeletor is one of my
favorite villains, you know, in terms of of of just
(11:17):
as kind of like a scenery chewing and then really
just the performance, like he sells the crap out of
it and he's going for it and you don't feel
like he got you know, like he's doing it because
he got divorced or something and needs the money or
needs a swimming pool.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
He definitely like has a lot of really intense direct
to camera dialogue that happens. And like the first scene
going into this movie in Castle Gray or what is
it Castle Gray School that they're in, I know nothing
about he Man going into this outside of like the
Cky two K, like right right, I Man star the
(11:59):
Skeletor beast Man music video that they made. So it's
like that's my knowledge of he Man. So I assume
Castle Gray Skulls where Skeletor lived, not where the Sorceress
and he Man lived. But yeah, that first scene was
very like it looked like like it was a play.
You're watching a play with like how it was all shot,
because there's so many just like weird angles that look
(12:22):
like you were just in the audience watching a stage
play in that first scene, which was very weird to.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Me, so I did so.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I grew up on the he Man toys, which is
probably the reason why I got my mom to rent
this movie in the first place. So, you know, there
are different So like there's the he Man toys and
then there was the he Man cartoon. So there was
a lot of stuff that weren't in the toys that
(12:53):
were in the cartoon, and then there's so much that's
that was in either of them that's not in the movie.
They just kind of like there was you know, they
just kind of picked the stuff they liked. You know,
like there's no there's no laser guns in like in
he Man, in like the toys cartoon, you know that's there.
That's their star, their star warsification of it.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Yeah, that was.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, they really were. He Man really started off as
kind of a oh, Conan is big, so let's do
kind of a medieval fantasy mythology kind of thing Castle
Gray Skull. You know, you got two different sides. And
the whole idea with the toys is that like each
villain had like a big gimmick to get the kid
to buy the toy. You know, it's like, oh, this
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guy switches heads, or this guy has like a robot
arm you can attach different stuff, or like this this
bad guy you know, squirts water, you know, right, And
it was very much kind of like Conan Slash.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
It's like, oh, they're of the bird people and and
so they're like the King of the Bird people, but
Skeletor has made them a minion, you know or whatever.
So the the thing of like having those like like
beast Man and oh Cobra Guy and Blade of the
Blade people like that.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Yeah, you love Blade Jordan's Big Blade. As soon as
he's it, it's it, huh.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I didn't think it was so such a weird JUSTI
just juxtaposition to see he Man battling with a sword
and a laser gun. It's like these things could not
be two more different, like fighting styles. Are we doing
swords or are we doing laser guns? Like but apparently, yeah,
(14:51):
he Man does everything. But he Man is for being
I mean, he's not the title characters called Masters of
the Universe, not he Man on the Masters of.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
The He shares Billy.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, No, he does almost nothing.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
He really doesn't. It's a Gwilldoor movie. Is He's the
central like his stuff is the central conflict of it.
Everything's kind of revolving around Gildoor. And for a character
who comic.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Relief story too, Yeah, he's.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Must be comic relief. But he's I think has the
most screen time of anyone else.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Is basically his bodyguard.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Yeah, it's like, maybe what's his name, Courtney Cox's boyfriend
might have a little bit more screen time. Kevin, Kevin
and Julie.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah, yeah, I just read Courtney Cox throughout all my.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Cox.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I was referring to them as the actors names of
the upcoming twenty twenty six Masters of the Universe movie.
So anytime Skeletor was on his on screen, like, oh,
Jared let here El was on I'm like, oh Alison
Brie Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
My gosh, is that a live action or an animated
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
I'm pretty sure it's a live action. Oh my goodness,
from the very little research I did on it.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Uh huh. And then uh oh, who was it?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
It was I dress elbow right.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I just felt that playing Man at Arms in the
twenty twenty six one.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Which has got to be a stage name that can't
be like his birth name.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Right, he wasn't a man when he was born. He
was a baby. Was he called baby at arms?
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Right, infant for arms?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
So yeah, the movie starts out with like an info
dump that like truly had me baffled, and I take
extensive notes, but I was like, what on earth is
happening here? And like it was rather like a play
because it just like Skeletor sashe about the place, being
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like I've taken over and you are captured as soon
as the moon goes here, right to have your power?
And I was just like, slow down, buddy, this is
too much. This is too much information for me to
take in.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Right now. Obviously part two where we're what they call
media in res, right, we're starting in the middle of action.
The Sorceress has already been captured on Matte Painting World,
and then the heroes basically are in like the last
the third act of their adventure. You know, they've gone
(17:34):
through this whole thing that that Skeletor has already taken over.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, but it was a little too top heavy for me,
and I was just like, there's no way I can
remember all this. Let's just get to the fighting. So
he Man finally shows up it is Dolph Lundgren who
are my son. Rocket is a huge fan of Oh he's.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
An interesting guy. He is interesting.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Yeah, is an interesting guy.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Like again, I understand you have to understand that he
did this movie not being able to just he was
not fluent in English at all for this movie, you know,
and that.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Way they dubbed all his lines.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Well, so here's here's the thing. He dubbed his lines.
He had it contractually that he could get three attempts
to do it himself in terms of the dubbing. And again,
just imagine if you had to make a movie in Swedish.
And so he did the movie. He did the movie
in real life, and then he got those three attempts
to do his own voice, and they finally kept his voice,
(18:43):
probably because they were just at a time to replace it.
But yeah, so so he dubbed his own voice. It
does sound eighty yard, but it's him.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
It makes so much sense now. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
There are a lot of non Dolph Lundgren adr lines
going throughout this movie too, though, and it's very it
throws you off, like when Skeletor's fall spoiler alert for
the end of this movie. But I don't think you
need a spoiler alert if you're listening to this podcast
right now. As Skeletor's falling not screaming, and it has
like the Wilhelm scream thing happening. It was and like
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when like Courtney Cox and Kevin were hugging, they had
like lines their adrd over. So it's like there's plenty
of like dialogue that goes in where there's no dialogue
happening during the recording of it.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Well, there's so much friggin' plot. There's so much to explain,
Like there's so much happening at any moment in this movie.
This does not suffer from a lack of plot. There's
bcde plots. There's Courtney Cox's whole thing where her parents
are dead and she wants to move to New Jersey
(19:52):
to leave her boyfriend who she still loves very deeply behind.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
I love that dream for her straight to Jersey.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
If you can make it in Jersey, you can make
it anywhere. That's what they say.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
He's a realist.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, her parents died in a plane crash, and like
that's a sad fact that we're reminded of throughout the movie.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
And have yourself for Yeah, and we realized that it
was her dad who was flying like it was so
so it really.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Her unbomber father. He had he had the big old
obomber glasses at the end of that film.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Fun fact. Yeah, her mom is played by Chris Pine's
real mom. Yeah, there are a lot of funny Star
Trek connections with this movie.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Of course there are, of course there are. So we
need to talk of a little bit about gwildor.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, so Billy Party, which you've you've probably seen in
like things like Willow and movies.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yeah, so with this character. So, this character was designed
specifically for this film, did not exist in the Masters
of the Universe universe prior, and he was their comic
relief to replace Orco from the cartoons because Orco is
too hard to make work. And it's like, like what
(21:29):
gets me with like comic relief characters. I enjoy a
good comic relief character, but when the characters in the
film acknowledge it as comic relief as well, because there's
so many lines where people are laughing at gwildor for
his mere existence that I'm like, why, like, like come on,
(21:51):
I don't need to hear fake laughs about this character
right now?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I feel like the eterniums are are you know, like
they come off as very enlightened, but they're still kind
of racist.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Like and I didn't need to see Gwildor attempt to
talk to a cow. Cow's cute. I love a cow,
gwildor going over his arm. I communicate with it, and
just like I just everything about Guildor just bothered me.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Another thing with Gwildor is that he looks like he's
melting all the time, and you feel terrible for the
for Billy Barty inside m you know.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
The makeup was not incredible.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
He was very textured, exactly, Okay, So so yeah, So
basically they can't afford to be in he Man Land
in Matt Painting World for too long. That's why they
get portal jumped to our time, you know, And so
(22:56):
they could have the sci fi people running around in
modern and day you know, uh, small town California and
and and honestly.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
In the middle of the desert as well when we
first meet he Man.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Right exactly. And so the idea is that they've got
to get this the what is it called the key,
cosmic key, the cosmic key. I'm the one who's seen
it under times like I obviously don't care about the details.
They've got to get the cosmic key because Skeletor has
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one of those. Gwildor made a copy, and that's going
to be the thing that can get them to stop,
to get back home and stop the bad guys because
they're draining the sorcersus powers. Become masters of the universe,
you know. Basically, Castle Gray Skull is where you can
because receive the powers of the universe and become kind
(23:54):
of godly, you know.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yeah. For anyone who hasn't watched this film and has
listening to this right now, Gwildor picture jar Jar Binks
was the catalyst of all of the events of the
film and was the thing that helped solve the problems
of the film as well. So he created the problem,
(24:16):
he also created the solution as well. And he is
a busy only one.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, and he's the only one trying to fix it,
trying to get them on task, trying to you know,
use the device, and then everyone else is basically fighting
amongst each other or acting as security.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Yeah, it's trying to protect him.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I have such a problem with Courtney Cox though, because
she was like, uh, friend to he Man because she
gets caught up in the battle and he Man's like,
I will save you. Where are my cape? And then
from there on out she's just the most useless, helpless
being who only exists in the story to be threatened
(25:04):
and hurt or tricked because she got.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Very Oh yeah, she was easily tricked. She turned on
them so quickly.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Yeah that was that was so fast.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, evil Lynne impersonated her mom, who is dead, and
she immediately buys into it and it's like, oh, yes,
I will steal for you, thanks mom.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Just a general general knowledge, like they took the key.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
She took the key and it was like, no, bitch,
you gave it to it.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Just generally if parents comes to you and says, oh,
I had to go off in secret, sorry about this.
Don't trust it. Maybe you don't.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
That's only true for Spider Man, but yeah I had.
There are a lot of like weird parts of this movie,
but one of my favorites. One of my favorite things
is that the principal from Back to the Future, principal Strickland,
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is in this movie as Lachlan the cop.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Basically yeah, yeah, yeah, lubick He's basically he's basically playing himself.
He realized that he plays he's playing the same character
effectively in both movies. Yeah, and it's funny. It's like
they literally opened a portal and stole a character from
another movie.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Yeah, Lubick was my second least favorite character.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
No, he was my very favorite. I love the.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Most useless cop.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, he would always be, and I also enjoyed him,
but also recognized that he was a terrible obstruction all
at all times.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
He said, no, one messes with Lubick, and everyone messed
with Lubick. He did nothing constructive.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
But at the end, for no reason, he decides to
stay in Eternia and be a king with a girlfriend
who he's like, and.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
They're like wait, he's like so so yeah, we're jumping
to the end, but basically like the good guys win
and yeah spoiler. And then he's sitting there like dressed
like royalty and he's got a woman and how much
time has passed? Like four hours, you know exactly, And
I got a castle, I got a woman. What do
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you know. It's like what more than it's like wait
a minute, no, no you don't get the castle.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, in the room.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah, you can't stay in Castle Gray Skull, like we'll
find you a cottage or something like.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
They have a way to ask to project messages to
the masses in the middle of a desert apparently, So
it's like, Okay, it doesn't look like the city was
entirely built up around the castle, so it's like, okay,
there's a this is gonna be me going against people
who are power now at this point. So it's like, okay,
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so the rulers of Eternia are really just keeping everything
to themselves and lubicks for some reason getting a piece
of that pie at the end.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It favors for loyalty.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Huh, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I also me in my notes, like was kept making
note of like how free and easy Kevin was with
pushing that red button on the front of.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
The key, showing everyone he would press the key thing
which is like the size of a blender, but a
bunch of buttons all around it and it would spin
at the top. But basically he'd press the red button
and then there would be glowing energy above them. And
I really loved every time they did that because I
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was always so fascinated to see how well the actors
would look at the same spot or not, because they're
just like they have nothing, no reference to look at.
Especially in eighties movies, it's always fun to see like
where the eye lines are for the visual effects because
they're so confused about where they're supposed to be looking,
you know, and how they're gauging their reaction to it.
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Some are like, wow, film thing.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Maybe uh I will I will get into that in
my deep cut.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
But then at the end he's like, I memorize the
song that plays when you hit the red button. And
I was like, oh, so it's good that he hit
the red button over and over.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
He's got the at the end right right, he's good
phones because he's he's a master soundmaker.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Yeah, that was another thing, like Glen Door mentioned that like, oh,
music's really important blah blah blah blah blah, and like
that was twenty thirty minutes prior to him being like, yeah,
I do music. I recognize this thing. It's like did
that did you not make that connection when you were
next to each other and him talking about how music
is essentially the way to travel like this was this
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was discussed in the music shop like you were, well,
if not earlier, I think it was actually before the
music shop that that uh uh I already forgot his name.
I couldn't remember it was a GW or g L.
But it's like he he mentions it like a couple
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times prior to the like, oh, we need music to
be able to get us back.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah. But Kevin is still he still has that moment
of like refusing the call. He's like, oh, my girlfriend
is dying. Uh, the world is on fire, Eternia is
going to end. But oh, I'm no master sound maker.
I'm just Kevin. I can't help you. And it's like,
would you shut up and just play the chords? Like,
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just do it?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I recognize these chords the first us.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yeah, so like and they're amazed that he's able to
remember this, and so are all Eternians like tone deaf,
Like is that a thing that is native to humans?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Because he's the guy at the music store did say, oh,
mister perfect pitch mmm.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Chekov's notes many And what also drives me insane about
gwildor I'm gonna everything, I'm gonna be mad at is
just a root cause of him is him being like, oh,
I don't remember the tones how to get home. But
at the end of the film is like, oh, you're
you want to go back, you know, two years from
the date that we got you. Fine, babe, sends you
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to a location that I know nothing about. You know,
I somehow know these tones.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
We never established the fact that it controls time at all,
Like it was just always space, like they were able
to go to any planet at any time. And it's
not until it became story convenient that that that time
was involved, Like at the very last five minutes of
the movie, Yeah, couldn't they have traveled before Skeletor took
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over Castle grays Call, you know.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
And there's a time loop that has happened in this film,
but they they don't show it because as Courtney Cox's
turning around to say hey, wait and then travels off,
Gwildor didn't hear what she wanted, so he had to
have like brought her back. He's like, hey, what were
you trying to tell me this? Okay, fine, We're gonna
send you a year earlier. So there's a time loop
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that was just cut because there's no way Gildoor knew
that she wanted in her heart to go back before
her parents Yo kick the bucket, because she.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Doesn't ask for it. He's like, I can send you
back in time, and she's like there's no need and.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
He's until like, wait a minute, willdoor then flash?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
He just surpriser, Yeah, surprise.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
He's gonna love this.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
What if she hated it? Yeah, I am at quilledoor.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
I was going to Jersey quilldor.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I had a whole house to myself.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Yeah. Yeah, just attacks her mom because she thinks it's
evil in again.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I also love that in her house where she was
moving away this night, on the night that this all happens,
she was moving to New Jersey. Her house is like
hardly packed up at all.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Oh yeah, full furniture, and.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
She left behind the article about her parents dying and
a picture of them all together, like she's like, don't
eat this in Jersey, so long, suckers. She just left
that stuff behind.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I'm like, no, yeah, I didn't pay attention to like
if they had any type of reference of time frame
from when her parents passed to now, because I know
they had the headstones. I didn't pay attention to like,
oh when did they pass versus is when the current
setting is.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Well, guilf Door figured it out.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah, you figured it out. There's there's still so much
I want to say, uh, why are there no people
in this city? Why are there no people in this
city Skeletor there's like the guy who runs the music shop,
Lubick and his uh his.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Like three cops that show up at the.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Skeletor taking when Skeletor is taking over the city and
our dimension, there's literally no people.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yeah, the marching down the street was weird, like people.
Lynn was in a scene somewhere else and then the
next scene she's marching in front of Skeletor with a
I want to say Krang, but that's not right.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Yes, you're right.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
I wanted to talk about KRK because I just love
everything about what's going on there.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
The spot, it's on you.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Uh, It's just it's like an orc with a perm.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
It's like the the design is just so it's so
great and so awful at the same time. It sticks
out like a sore thumb, Like I just love that.
That that that's what they went with. They saw that
costume and they were like perfect, yeah, no notes.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
No, I can't remember his name, not beast Man, not Blade,
not Card, but the fourth one, the one who's whose
Skeletre is Zapps to death who did nothing wrong, like
he was the most innocent of all of them. Just yeah, yeah,
(35:44):
it's just like we don't want their talents to be wasted.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
It's like, and I loved I loved Skeletor's mask, Like
we talked about for how good Franklin Jela is a Skeletor.
But like his mask, the makeup is actually pretty good
except for the nose.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yes, yeah, it's tough because it's got to be a
skeleton nose, which is, you know, no cartilage, and so
they're basically hiding the point of the nose with like
black makeup.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
It reminded me of like a Halloween costume, just like
the very Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
So here's one of the fun Star Trek references. That
mask appears again in Star Trek the Next Generation. They
just for whatever reason, they reused it when Wharf fights
like has a combat training program. In the Hula deck
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the skull there's like a white skull head guy. It's like, oh,
that guy looks cool And I never pieced it together
until I read the trivia. So that's the Skeletor mask.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
I love it, huh. I also love the part where
he man is skysurfing.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
That was that they're standing, but they're also trying to
sit at the same time, so like on a standing platform,
but like in a weird like sitting posh my core.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah. The thing that's so funny about the Cannon Films
is that this is a sci fi movie made by
people who don't know or like sci fi m M.
And so they're saying, oh, yeah, let's give them a
big disc or we'll have them have swords and laser guns.
We'll give them this outfit. Like they're not necessarily they're
(37:35):
not making this for sci fi fans per se. You know,
they're they're coming up with their own weird stuff. At
least the people have.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
The knowledge of, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Have a feeling like the product, like I'm talking about
like the the heads of the studio, Like I have
a feeling like the director and like some of the
production people. They wanted to do something cool, but it
was like, no, no, this is good, just do this
instead from Golan and Globis from the Cannon Films, guys.
(38:08):
You know, like I never got the sense that even
with like with like super like when they also did
Superman four, like they understood Superman at all.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Right, Yeah, and they didn't really understand he Man as
being like a product for kids.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Yeah, it definitely wasn't a kids movie, Like, no, not
at all. The series was made to sell the toys.
Like that's why he Man was made, was to sell
the toy.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Right, Yeah, it's they haven't done he Man so dirty
because he Man itself was a thirty minute commercial for toys.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, But I again, I think Dolph Lungren was beautifully cast.
He is a beautiful man. He did his best, even
though he is not the star of this movie whatsoever?
Speaker 5 (39:03):
Uh the star, he's the star.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Derek quilledor who's the villain Derek also Guildoor.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
But yeah, like I tried to get Rocket to watch
this movie with me because he's he's a big Dolph
lungering guy. He's a big he's a big Drago guy.
He just wanted to tell me facts about Dolph Lungren
and then leave the room. He wanted no part of
Masters of the Universe.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Why does your son know so much about Dolph Lungren.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Because he loves Ivan Drago.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna I list.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
He would just come in and say, Mom, is your
movie still on and I'd be like, yeah, it has like.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
To your movie to yeah, your movie to rocket.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
He would say, you know, Dolph Lunggren's a genius and
he is like eight degrees and like he's a doctor
of science and medicine. And I was like, okay, thanks.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
I do noutes mom.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Uh huh uh. This movie was definitely longer than it
needed to be, Like I paused it a lot. I
paused a lot and walked away, and then you know,
had to come back and be like, how is there
still forty minutes left of this movie?
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Uh? See, I didn't pause it because if I would
have paused it, I wouldn't have continued watching it.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Yeah, we just had to just let it happen to us.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Just come through, just submit, all right.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Who who has something in their notes we haven't talked
about yet?
Speaker 4 (40:51):
All right?
Speaker 2 (40:51):
I feel like, let's see.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
There is one line of dialogue and that the IMDb
page age has. This is like one of their only
quotes that are on there. But when when skeletor as
he's like about to defeat he man before he just
falls into a pit, that like, uh tell me that
the loneliness of good he man is equal to the
(41:16):
loneliness of evil. It's like, oh yeah, hurt you. I
could fix them.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
I read that Franklin Jella wrote that line.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
That's great, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
He also he also has a Shakespeare quote in the movie.
I forget what it is, but one of my favorite
lines I wrote this down was beast Man full force
attack at my command.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
It's like a little haiku mm hmmm.
Speaker 6 (41:52):
I like gwildor at the very beginning he says I
don't like adventures.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
It was like right.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
It was like right before they go through the portal
or something, wasn't.
Speaker 6 (42:03):
It Like it was like we're getting all the exposition,
we're setting things up, and he just.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
He's a Bilbo Baggins.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Or when Evil Limb's like, oh gray skulls ours and
the skills is like no mine, it's like oh damn.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
I also love that Gwildor when he first is inviting
them over to the house, he's like unlocking his door
and he's like, remember when we used to not lock
our doors. We'll get back there someday.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Color.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
But the one thing I do like about Gildoor is
and it only was it was only Kevin and Lubic,
who are both like what the what, what the hell
is this thing? Like it was a scene where he's like,
I'm wearing We're wearing the local clothing, so no one
will recognize us dressed like yeah, yeah, he'ss et when
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they like the checker glasses on and and then lu
Bek was like, what the hell is that? It's like, yeah,
that should have been the reaction of everyone who saw.
Speaker 5 (43:08):
Gwildor for the whole movie.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
You had one of those like large orange like orangutang
faces where it's kind of like.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
And at the end when they're all in their Eternia finery,
he's got little bow's.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Os yeah, like and is like like the Star Wars
Awards ceremony, look.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
Yeah, where he's got the look on his face where
the look on his face is just saying I'm a
silly guy. And I know I'm a silly guy, and
I just like hat it. I hate it. So I
am irrationally angry at Gwildoor and all of his choices
the silliness. Also when he when he transitioned the car
(43:54):
from being a rudimentary internal combustion to Eternia Magic, where
did he get parts that has attorneyal language on it.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
M that's the that's the biggest plot hole in this movie,
that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
I also like how they just throw out random sci
fi terms that had no like, oh, we just need
a displacement regulator. Oh, I got one gator. Oh I
got one of those here.
Speaker 5 (44:22):
It's like I wrote, I wrote that down. That was
one of my quotes. If I can find it.
Speaker 6 (44:26):
Yeah, I had to go back and like get those
lines verbatim because they were wonderful.
Speaker 5 (44:32):
I can find them.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
Who is Duncan? Okay, I'm going through quotes right now,
and they referred to him as Duncan. I'm like Duncan.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
So did the actress who played the Sorcerer. Her name
was Christina Pickles.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, she's She's Monica, So it's a it's a friend's
tie in. She's Monica and Ross's mom on Friends.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Oh that's funny.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
Okay. The one thing cinematically like in terms of just
set design that I did like is when they were
doing the portal key to get back to Gray Skull,
and it was like, since it wasn't like the portal
key that was creating a portal, but it like it
where it like did an orb of where it took
the scenery with them scenery. I thought that was cool.
(45:22):
I did enjoy that the set design, it would have
been great. Willdor wasn't there when it happened.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Look, but Lubick is there. And that's how it gets
to So on a scale of one cosmic key to
ten cosmic keys, Mmm, how many cosmic keys do we
give Masters of the Universe.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
It it was bad, go for but not so bad
that it's good, right, I mean it's like a three
to four for me.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Wow, Okay, three to four, my goodness, is not very
many cosmic keys. You did? You did, and you're gonna
have to watch it a third time just to be
sure you don't like it.
Speaker 4 (46:15):
Yeah, I'm gonna watch it right before I watched the
twenty twenty six Masters of the Universe.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
There you go, there you go.
Speaker 6 (46:21):
For academic reasons, I would give it. I'm a little
higher than Derek. I gave it five cosmic keys, okay, because.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
My reasoning.
Speaker 6 (46:33):
There was there was entertaining pockets of it, and I
did enjoy elements of it.
Speaker 5 (46:39):
But as you said before, there's just so much going on.
It's confusing.
Speaker 6 (46:43):
It's not something that I will revisit because it's so bad.
It's good, but I was entertained in some parts.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Yeah, I think that's fair for sure. So Nathan, this
is a childhood favorite.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Okay, so okay, so I fully so this is I'm
doing it on nostalgic personal entertainment. This is not an
objective opinion on it. Like if if I was going
to be objective in terms of the quality of the movie.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
Like.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
If if I had like an amnesia episode and then
had to rewatch it, I would go, what the fuck
is this movie and give it give it something way lower.
But I'm going to give it a seven. I'm sorry
it you know again, I'm this is not one of
my top one hundred films. But it's just tied to
a silliness of one of those movies you saw, like
(47:41):
Beast Master or whatever, or or even Buckeroo Bonzai, like
that doesn't make any sense to most people, but just
because it got programmed early in your brain. Yeah, you know,
like the stuff I remember and the stuff I like
is is has very little to do with the story
or the dialogue. You know, it's the general silliness and
(48:04):
setting of it, and really frankl Angela.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Yeah, yeah, he's great part.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Excellent. So I'm all gonna go right in between you guys.
So we're gonna cover all the bases. We're gonna have three,
four or five, six, okay, and seven from Nathan. So
I give it a six because I really thought this
should have been a good movie, Like if if they
had given a better editor another pass. I think there's
(48:36):
a good movie in here.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
They just couldn't if there was less movie. If there
was less movie.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
There was significantly less movie, it would have been much
much better. Yes, I agree, less movie, but it just
needed to be chiseled out a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (48:57):
So.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Yeah, so I give it a six. But I didn't
have a bad time when I was watching it. The
number of times that I paused it and was just like,
good lord, there's so much aside. I was like, okay,
all right.
Speaker 4 (49:10):
Let's.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Where are they gonna take this? For forty five more minutes?
Speaker 5 (49:15):
Yea more minutes.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Let's see, let's see what Eternia has to say about this. Also,
what was the significance of the little ball of Eternia
she had at.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
The end, Like, I don't well, I think they were
trying to because there's originally a sequel planned for this movie. Ew,
so that might have tied into what this is one
of those men?
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah, being before they even made the first one they
said there's gonna be a sequel to this. You know,
this is them trying to manufacture a franchise.
Speaker 6 (49:47):
That's that Star Wars brain again, thinking that they're going
to have a trilogy.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Right, yep, yep, yep, yep. All right, so let's talk
about deep cut. Recommendy that's my new theme song for it. Uh,
what can we recommend based on liking this movie or
experiencing this movie, not necessarily liking it, but experiencing this movie,
(50:15):
you should also experience what Derek.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
The episode of Community intro to Recycled Cinema, if you
love Gildoor, they got Garrett playing glip Glop, which he
has a he has a tennis ball at the end
of the stick, and there was the do we look
at Garrett? Do we look at the tennis ball? It's like,
why would you why would it be I hold in
the tennis ball if you were looking at but his
voice exactly the same as Gilldors But it's just a
(50:40):
little green alien guy with boxing gloves that's doing this example, Like,
so yeah, if you if you enjoy this movie, you
would unironically enjoy the episode intro to Recycled Cinema because
it's similar production value.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Excellent, And that's an episode of Community.
Speaker 4 (51:00):
Yes, do you know what? Like?
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Season or episode is?
Speaker 4 (51:04):
Season six, episode number eight?
Speaker 5 (51:09):
I need to go back and watch that.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Making a note, make a note. But what about you, Jordan,
what is your deep cut recommendation?
Speaker 6 (51:20):
Yes, I said before, I'm not sure how deep cut
this is, but I recently watched this movie, like maybe
two months ago.
Speaker 5 (51:27):
Big Trouble in Little.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
China Nathan's favorite movie.
Speaker 5 (51:32):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 6 (51:35):
It's like the like so much going on, and like
the fantasy elements and like the humor.
Speaker 5 (51:43):
I obviously I think A.
Speaker 6 (51:46):
Big Trouble Little China is much better, but it just
kind of like if you like, if you like that,
then you know, check out there.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
It is signed by John Carpenter.
Speaker 6 (52:00):
That is super exciting. I'm making my way through his
filmography and I told I told.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
Him that it was the best movie ever made. Yeah,
I don't know, and he said, yeah, no, that's literally
what he said. I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
So he agrees, Jordan, have you gotten to They Live yet? No?
Speaker 6 (52:24):
I want things to be on streaming, So I'm waiting
for that one to be on streaming.
Speaker 4 (52:30):
That's a good.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
That's a good, like climax to the marathon rather than
to have because I'm kind of a John Carpenter officionado
like that. That's that's honestly, even though I Big Trouble
is my favorite, like They Live is probably his.
Speaker 6 (52:45):
Okay, So yeah, I'll get through some of the other
ones first and then I'll kind of leave that one, yeah,
towards the back.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
All right, great recommendation. I love it, Nathan. What have
you got for me?
Speaker 4 (52:57):
So?
Speaker 2 (52:57):
I would say, so a movie that kind of does
that's more accessible and kind of actually has the camp
and so bad it's good and actually is kind of
fun and campy and and does what this kind of
what we wish it would have done is the nineteen
eighties Flash Gordon you know, soundtrack by Queen.
Speaker 7 (53:22):
Yeah, it's it's, it's it's You could run them back
to back and think that they reuse some of each
other's sets and costumes, but Flash Gordon is is more cohesive.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
It's it's one of those movies I didn't grow up on.
I actually grew up on more of the nineteen thirties
Flash Gordon stuff, So I kind of scoffed at the
eighties silly version. You know, it's the eight The eighties
Flash Gordon is almost like like a musical, a rock
(53:55):
musical where no one sings, you know, it's the music
itself that kind of becomes a rock musical, like the
Queen music. But it's a lot of fun, and so
it kind of it's kind of a better version of
Masters of the Universe.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
Should we review it for this podcast? I've never seen it,
I think.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
So yeah, and I only saw it like maybe four five.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
Years ago, So oh nice. I would love to see it,
and we'll bring you both back to discuss it and
you can compare Masters of the Universe.
Speaker 4 (54:27):
Is there a Gwilldor?
Speaker 2 (54:30):
There is there? They have a Russian scientist that's the
closest to gwildor okay, okay, there's no, there's no. There's
kind of aliens, but there's not really aliens.
Speaker 4 (54:43):
They've got that's so concerned about aliens as I am
come a.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
Jar jar right, Yeah, No, I would say, no, there's
not there's there's Timothy Dalton.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
Oh, I love Timothy Dalton.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
A young Timothy Dalton. And then there's also Brian Blessed
with hawk Wings so interesting. Yeah, who played Boss Nasts.
So it's kind of a jar jar connection, but not really.
He's kind of worth it though.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
Mmm. I love that. I just realized while you were
talking that this movie really reminds me of a better
version of it, Ice Pirates.
Speaker 4 (55:23):
Mmmm Pirates.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
Ice Pirates is amazing Pirates.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
I feel like Ice Pirates is a slightly like lateral move.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
Yeah, that's not my deep cut recommendation.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
They're in the same shelf. They're in the same shelf, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
Their posters are next to each other in someone's living
room for sure.
Speaker 4 (55:47):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
But my deep cut recommendation, and Jordan you actually touched
on it was that I immediately knew when Gwildor was
like I hate Adventures, that my deep cut recommended was
going to be the Lord of the Rings because you
got little guys who hate adventures and hate leaving their
(56:10):
little hometown being forced to go on an epic adventure.
But at the opposite of He Man, where we're saying
he Man needed less movie to be better. Lord of
the Rings you couldn't give us enough of that movie.
We wanted extended cuts that were four hours long. We
were like, more of this movie would make it a
good movie. So it's the exact opposite.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
Until the Hobbit.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
I hat until the Hobbit, Yes.
Speaker 4 (56:36):
The animated Hobbit movie. I got a little sad after
Bilbo stole the ring from Smiegel. I'm like, all, poor.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
Guy, yeah, poor little guy.
Speaker 4 (56:49):
I was a very I was a very ampathetic child.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
Mmm, you were ampathetic.
Speaker 4 (56:57):
Yeah, it was empathetic, but amped up. I'm not me
doing a verbal flood.
Speaker 5 (57:05):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (57:06):
I also say ampathetic.
Speaker 5 (57:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (57:09):
Sure, my accent came out and I you know what
my accent is?
Speaker 1 (57:14):
All right, lovely, Well, thank you so much for listening,
Thank you for being with us. Here at the end,
we are going to let you know where you can
find us and friend us and follow us and do
all that fun stuff. Let's start with Let's start with Derek.
We've been starting with you. Let's start with you. Where
(57:35):
can people fine follow and friend you and support your work?
Speaker 4 (57:41):
Yeah? So the biggest thing to report my work? If
you follow on Instagram, roll for Charisma comedy all one
word it is the D and D theme stand up
show where we assign abilities to performers that they have
to roll dice and then there's a whole table of
punishments that they have to survive through their ten minute sets.
So roll for Chrisma Comedy on Instagram is how you
(58:03):
can find me and the work that I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (58:07):
Excellent And Jordan, where can people support you and the
Musical Catering Company?
Speaker 6 (58:12):
Yeah, so we are at the Neighborhood Comedy Theater first
Friday of every month. We have an Instagram which I
believe is just Musical Catering Co. Yes, very active on that,
of course I know that information. Yeah, first Friday of
the month, we do about an hour and a half
(58:34):
musical all made up on the spot.
Speaker 5 (58:37):
It's a ton of fun.
Speaker 4 (58:38):
It is a fun show.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
It's great. It's great and I love it and you
can definitely see it in the Neighborhood Comedy Theater first
Friday of every month. Go to Nctphoenix dot com for
more details on that to come out and see us
do that show. Nathan, where can people follow your filmmaking endeavors?
Speaker 2 (58:59):
Yes, those Squishy Studios dot com you can find our
movies and web series and things like that, and our
feature film, The Last Movie Ever Made is on Amazon, Apple.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
And two B so yes, and it is worth worth watching,
worth buying.
Speaker 2 (59:17):
Chrissy's in it, as is Dorian's voice. So if you're
at then there's you can say there.
Speaker 1 (59:24):
Yeah, excellent, And so you can listen to me in
other places on the Gank That Drank a supernatural drinking
game podcast, also a true Story FM product. But if
you're here with us at the end and you're like, look,
I need more of this of this quad Drupel Powerhouse episode,
(59:46):
you want to hear more from us. You want the
bonus content, baby, you need to become a member. Go
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What that's great, Early, it's amazing. You get them ad
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That's wonderful, And you get the bonus content at the end.
(01:00:10):
And I'm going to ask these cats, what is the
worst movie or TV show or book that you love?
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Oh, and mine's not going to be Masters of the Universe.
Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Okay, okay, it's okay if it is. But so you
can get that on the bonus content and more so,
thank you so much for listening, and when you're out
there in the world, please keep the most excellent eighties
movies podcast model in mind, be excellent to each other,
and party on, Party on, dudes,
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