July 17, 2025 • 26 mins
Pour yourself a shot and settle in for an entertaining journey through Dodge City lore and fine spirits! Our debut episode of "Whiskey and Westerns on Wednesday" brings together host Mike King and Dodge City historian Brad Smalley to explore frontier legends while sampling Ardbeg 10, a smoky Islay scotch.
We kick things off by shattering a persistent Wild West myth about the origin of "shot" glasses. Despite romantic notions of cowboys trading bullets for whiskey, historical records reveal that in 1870s Dodge City, a shot cost about 25 cents—enough to buy nearly ten bullets. When George Hoover established the first saloon in what would become Dodge, he dispensed whiskey by the ladle for two bits, likely delivering a more generous pour than today's standard shot.
The heart of our episode revolves around Luke McGlue, Dodge City's most infamous resident who never actually existed. This entirely fictional character served as the perfect scapegoat for the town's practical jokers, including legendary figures like Bat Masterson and Wyatt Earp. When pranks were pulled and someone needed to take the blame, Luke McGlue became the untraceable culprit, preventing potential violence in a town where everyone carried guns.
We share the hilarious tale of Dr. Meredith, a traveling "medical man" who came to deliver a lecture on "private diseases" after corresponding with the nonexistent Luke. What followed was an elaborately orchestrated practical joke featuring staged disruptions, gunfire that extinguished the saloon's lamps, and ultimately a terrified doctor fleeing town on the first train out.
Throughout our storytelling, we appreciate the complex flavors of Ardbeg 10, discussing how peat imparts its distinctive smoky character during the whiskey-making process and identifying flavor notes from beeswax to black pepper.
Subscribe to our podcast for weekly episodes where we'll continue exploring legendary characters, historical tales, and fine spirits from the American frontier. Search "Wild West podcast" to find us and join our Wednesday tradition of whiskey and wonderful stories!
"Edward Masterson and the Texas Cowboys," penned by Michael King, takes readers on an exhilarating ride through the American West, focusing on the lively and gritty cattle town of Dodge City, Kansas. This thrilling dime novel plunges into the action-packed year of Ed Masterson's life as a lawman, set against the backdrop of the chaotic cattle trade, filled with fierce conflicts, shifting loyalties, and rampant lawlessness. You can order the book on Amazon.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here we go again.
I demand more.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I want it, I need it and I'm gonna have it.
This pod show is pleased tobring you Whiskey Westerns on
Wednesday, direct from DodgeCity, kansas, featuring rich
topics on the legends of the OldWest.
Whiskey to motivate Westerns,to inspire Get it, play it,
(00:29):
drink it.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Welcome everybody to our very first Whiskey and
Westerns on Wednesday pod show.
My name is Mike King.
I'm the producer and writer ofWild West Podcast.
Today we have with us BradSmalley, a noted passionate
Dodge City historian and thenarrator of our show.
During each pod show we will betalking about one or more of
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the legends of Dodge City.
We will also take a few shotsfrom one of our selected bottles
of whiskey.
Brad, welcome to today's show.
What do you have in store forus this evening?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Well, for lack of anything better and trust me,
there's not much better outthere we're going to start with
a bottle of scotch, believe itor not, the Artbag 10.
We're going to start with abottle of scotch, believe it or
not, the Ardbeg 10, each 10years.
It's one of the Isla Scotches,one of five distilleries on the
island of Isla in Scotland.
(01:35):
It is a single malt and, mike,I'm ready to pour whenever you
are.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Oh, I'm ready for it myself.
Why don't you get me a littleshot there and we'll see what
this Arbic 10 tastes like?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well now, as of course you know, we not the
first time today we have sampledthis.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
No, we had a little bit prior to our show just to
make sure that we didn't coughwhen we drank it.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It's just a little bit of tasting notes.
It's fairly clear for a singlemalt scotch it's very light,
almost like a white wine.
It is not subtle for all of youscotch drinkers out there, if
there are any.
It is not subtle for all of youscotch drinkers out there, if
there are any.
(02:28):
Now I should add, of course,since we are of course, a
Western American, westernpodcast scotch, not the most
American of alcohols.
However, like many scotches,isla is aged in American bourbon
casks.
So there you have it.
There's the American tie.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
That's very good to know, brad, and you know one of
the things that has always beena mystery to me.
You know we're drinking out ofa glass here and you poured me a
little bit more than a shot,but anyway, I was thinking about
the shot glass.
Can you tell me a little bitabout the history of the shot
and the shot glass?
Because what I understand isthat the Cowboys used to trade a
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bullet for a shot of whiskeyand that's why it was called a
shot of whiskey.
Is there any truth to that oris that myth?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's one of those great American Western myths.
Really, the story is great.
I've used it myself, in fact.
However, really nothing couldbe further from the truth.
We've done some research inseveral different sources.
Generally speaking, a shot ofwhiskey would run you about two
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bits 25 cents.
A specific Dodge City examplewhen George Hoover opened up the
first bar that became DodgeCity, he was selling a ladle
whiskey by the ladle for 25cents.
Now, of course, we have no wayof knowing how big his ladle was
.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
No we don't, but you can imagine a ladle back in
those days, probably more thanour standard shot in 2018.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I would say at least a cup of coffee out of that one.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Now, the price that we have figured is in the 1870s.
25 cents would have bought younot one bullet closer to 10.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, yeah, okay, so bullets are cheaper then than 25
cents.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, life is a little bit cheaper than a shot
of whiskey.
I guess, I guess, so I guess soAll right.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Well, I can tell you that your fact and legend story
really does not come close tothe sweetness of my first shot
of Arbeg, so I'll beg you foranother one.
How about that?
We've, we've got a whole bottleto go, okay, well, I want to
take another shot of this andwe'll keep on moving here.
(04:56):
Um, okay, one more questionbefore we get started on the
legendary character of the OldWest why is peat needed for
whiskey production and how doesthe smoke flavor come into the
whiskey?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Well, in that part of Scotland, actually in much of
Scotland, one of their biggestnatural resources is peat.
Okay, now, peat is almost nowpeat is it's almost sludge
really.
It is decayed.
Uh, vegetable matter that uhover the course, in the whiskey
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or what.
What they use to dry it out, uh,it is.
Whereas in many parts of thefrontier they would use, uh say,
buffalo chips to start a firevery good, any sort of natural
resource, something that coulddry things out, because this
doesn't taste grassy at all.
Not in the slightest, not inthe slightest.
What you're getting is thesmoke that dried out the barley
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that they used to make then thewhiskey, much as they would just
any campfire, and there areseveral scotches out there that
you can really tell thatcampfire odor.
You can really get that smoke.
This is more of, almost more of, an oily, an oily smoke, but
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that is that's really.
All it was used for is just todry out the grain.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Well, you know, just kind of taking a sniff of this,
you were talking earlier that itsmelled a little like black
pepper uh, there are lots ofdifferent tasting notes we could
do.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
we could go probably another 30 minutes just talking
about all the flavors that wecan get out of here and uh, well
, we did that a little bitBefore we even got started on
the show Before we came on theair.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Folks, yeah, you know we had a nurse with us too and
she was talking about.
It smelled a little like a.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Band-Aid that is not uncommon in a single malt scotch
, especially not from the IslaScotches.
The isla scotches, uh, I trulyI don't know how else to
describe that, other than whenyou first open up a box of brand
new band-aids, you get that.
Uh, we were talking also.
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Uh, she was getting some ofthat.
Uh, ether, ether, uh, was that,was that in the nose or the
theI get that what you'retalking about.
I almost got a little morementhol in there and the more
I'm thinking about that kind ofBand-Aid, it's almost turning
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into beeswax for me.
It's getting that—you mentionedthe sweetness and it is very
sweet.
It's really turning intobeeswax.
Along with that fruit.
I'm getting pear.
Yeah, some little pear in here.
Get it out of here.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
A little black pepper .
Black pepper lime.
I'm just wondering if we'regoing to need a Band-Aid after
we get through with this.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
But anyway, let's get started with.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
You know, I just had my second shot of Arbic 10.
You know, I just had my secondshot of Arbic 10.
So let's talk a little bitabout Legends of Dodge City,
because, after all, this isWhiskey and Westerns on
Wednesday.
Right, it is a city founded bywhiskey.
We run as well, absolutely.
So we need to maybe bring insome famous character that we
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know about in Dodge City.
Do you have a special characterin mind for tonight's show?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
In fact I do, Given the nature of what a nice glass
of whiskey you'll do with agroup of friends, sort of brings
out the good humor in us all,don't you?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
think, oh, I think so , and if I take one more of
these, which I probably willthere in a minute, but go right
ahead, tell us about.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'll tell you, nobody in Dodge City and I do mean
nobody had a better sense ofhumor than a fellow by the name
of Luke McGlue Luke McGlue, nowthat sounds kind of like an
Irishman.
It might have been, except forthe fact that he never did exist
.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Well, I can tell you this Ar, our big Tim exists, and
that's Irish.
Well, it's Scottish, but closeenough.
Oh well, it's a differentcountry then, right, so maybe he
was Scottish Instead of Irish.
It could have been.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
But the fact remains, he was a completely fictional
character.
Oh so okay, so See now he was acompletely fictional character.
Oh so okay, so See now Luke was.
To put the easiest spin on it,luke was the scapegoat for all
of the practical jokes thathappened in and around Dodge
City during that time.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Would that be because of the whiskey?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Well, now see as violent a town as Dodge City was
in those early days, the boysin town needed a way to let off
a little steam.
Now, practical jokesgood-natured as they might have
been sometimes things got alittle rough.
Now, when things start gettingrough, you need somebody to
blame.
Okay, now, if you need somebodyto blame, okay, now, if you
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need somebody to blame that, youcan find that's a bit of a
problem, because then you've gotpotential for violence.
So what they did Was theycreated A fella by the name of
Luke McGlue.
Now say dirty words Are paintedon the water tower.
Or say your mule gets stolen Inthe middle of the night.
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Or say a traveling salesmanshows up and loses all of his
cigars during a showroom.
Well, if that happens, you needto find a scapegoat.
Well, go find Luke McGlue.
Luke's probably got your mule.
So what you're saying— Luke wasreal hard to find.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
What you're saying is this guy was all made up,
purely made up, completelyfictional.
When they pulled a practicaljoke on a citizen in Dodge City,
they just said who did it andthey named Luke McGlue.
Luke McGlue, oh, we are, yes.
So can you tell us one of thestories about Luke McGlue and
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some of the practical jokes, andwhat year are we talking about?
Are we talking about 1872, 1877?
Oh, by the late 1870ss he'sbecoming more popular is he
becoming popular among a certaingroup of people, the practical
jokers, or who's he becoming?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
popular with most of the folks that you've heard of
from Dodge City, folks like thename of Bat Masterson, to a
lesser extent even Wyatt EarpChalkley Beeson, owner of the
Long Branch Saloon.
These were big players in theLuke Maglue crowd.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
So they were the practical jokers.
The leaders of the town wereactually making practical jokes
on the citizens, exactly, andthen blaming it on Luke Maglue.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
The West never had a greater practical joker than Bat
Masterson.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
So he was Bat Masterson.
So he was back Bat Masterson,wasn't he like a law leader?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Oh, for a time in Dodge he was county sheriff.
He was deputy sheriff.
In the early days, from 1876 on, County sheriff was about the
peak of his law enforcementcareer.
But he was out there playingjokes on.
You Bat had a sense of humorlike no other.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Oh, we are.
So you have a particular storyyou want to share with us about
Luke McGlue, maybe Bat Mastersonand a practical joke that he
pulled that he blamed on McGlue.
Well, there's a few.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
There's a good many of them that probably we might
not want to tell in mixedcompany, but one of my favorites
.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Well, hold on just a second.
This is my favorite here.
I'm taking another shot,absolutely.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
We've got a long bottle of kill.
Another bottle of kill.
Mike, didn't you tell me aminute ago that I'd already
poured you more than you wanted?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Well see, that's what happened when you poured me
more than I wanted.
Now I want more.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Whiskey and friends.
Practical jokes.
There we go.
All right, yeah, can I help youwith any?
You might as well.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Top it off.
Okay, here we go.
This is going to be a goodstory, so Well, I hope you don't
fall out of your chair there,my friend.
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So Luke McGlue, batmaster Sin and the Practical
Jokes of Dodge City, one of thegreatest involves a traveling
salesman with the unfortunatename of Dr Meredith.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Was he a traveling salesman or was he a doctor?
Speaker 1 (13:46):
At that time you're splitting hairs on the
difference between the two.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
So he was a traveling salesman of a doctor.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
He was claiming to be a medical man.
What he was doing was sellinginformation.
Okay, he wrote ahead to DodgeCity and in his letter he asked
if there was anyone in town whomight be interested in hearing a
lecture on, shall we say,private diseases.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Would that be something you would be
embarrassed about back in thosedays?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Most generally even then, yes, okay, okay, given the
leading occupation in many ofthe saloons and dance halls at
that time, private diseases werea bit of an issue.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
So that would be something that the men of Dodge
City would be interested inhearing.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Potentially, yes, okay, and see, even at that time
Dodge City was in the newspapers nationwide.
People knew Dodge City, knowDodge City, they knew its
reputation.
And this Dr Meredith thought hewas going to solve some of
those problems.
If nothing else, he could makesome money off of these western
Kansas sad sets, Gotcha.
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Well, Luke McGlue wrote himback a letter and said Dr
Meredith, I would be veryinterested in hearing what you
have to say.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
So Luke wrote this letter.
Luke wrote this letter.
Did he sign it with his name?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
He must have, he must have.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
The good doctor believed it right.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
The good doctor believed that at least one man
was interested and of course heassumed that once he got there a
crowd would gather, as thingsare known to happen.
So Dr Meredith got himself onthe train and came out to Dodge
City and Bat Mr Masterson, someof the other leading citizens of
the town.
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They got together and they sethim up a little lecture hall in
one of the other Leadingcitizens Of the town.
They got together and they sethim up A little lecture hall In
one of the saloons.
Was that the Lady Gay Saloon?
It was the Lady Gay, in fact,one of the One of the more
notorious.
We've got a lot of Storiesabout the Lady Gay.
We may Want to buy ourselves Afew more bottles of whiskey If
we really want to come.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
That's for episodes to come.
Absolutely Stay tuned.
Right now we're talking aboutthe Lady Gay Saloon, dr Meredith
and Luke McGlue and BatMasterson all being involved in
these diseases.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Now Luke McGlue had been able to gather up quite a
crowd to come and come and hearDr Meredith, they set him up a
podium back there on theperformance stage for the Lady
Gate and, of course, MrMasterson and Wyatt Earp
happened to be the I don't wantto use the term referees.
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They were the well, they werethere Wearing their badges, Just
to make sure that there were nodisturbances, Just to keep
order, just in case somebody wasinsulted by a disease that they
may have not known aboutEveryone understood Dodge's
reputation.
You needed some enforcement.
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Just in case.
They were the just in casesquad.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Everybody carried a gun too, right or did?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
they.
Well, they weren't supposed to,but laws were a little bit lax
on the south side of therailroad tracks, which happens
to be where the Lady Gay wassituated.
See, okay, luke was prettyactive on the south side of the
railroad tracks, I'll say itthat way.
Was pretty active on the southside of the railroad tracks,
I'll say it that way.
Well, now, once his crowd hadgathered, mr Bat Masterson stood
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up.
He addressed the crowd, heintroduced Dr Meredith and he
warned all the boys sitting outthere in the makeshift lecture
hall says pay due respect to DrMeredith.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
So he kind of said hey, hey, I'm the authority, I
am the authority, you respect,you don't believe me.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Look at the badge, you folks know me all right, you
know what I want to do.
You know I won't tolerate anytroublemaking, so don't make no
trouble.
Sit, mind your manners, listento what dr meredith has to say,
it'll do you some good.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
So they just sat out there like good old cowboys.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
They sat out there, ears open, ready to be
entertained, if nothing else.
Well the good Dr Meredith gotup to his podium and, none the
wiser, he started delivering hislecture on Private diseases,
their causes, their treatment,that sort of thing, how to avoid
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them.
Perhaps that might have been agood topic.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Was there a lot of cowboys crossing their legs at
that time there?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
may have been, you might think.
You might think, if nothingelse, there might have been some
well.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I won't go into there .
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Uncomfortable feelings out there, yeah one of
those itches you just can'tscratch, sort of thing.
Yeah, one of those itches youjust can't scratch sort of thing
.
Well, as they're listening toDr Meredith, of course everybody
knew that somewhere in thecrowd Luke McGlue was biding his
time, Until all of a suddensomebody in the back row stood
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up and told Dr Meredith he wasfull of crap.
Oh boy, Boy, Somebody smarterthan the doctor.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Crap, oh, boy boy, Somebody smarter than the doctor
, huh Well, naturally.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, who isn't?
And of course then the ruckusstarted.
People started arguing witheach other on one side, started
arguing against the other side.
Dr Meredith started turningbeet red from the neck up and
things started getting out ofhand.
And Bat Masterson of coursecalm, cool and collected man
that he was stepped down intothe crowd addressed the
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situation.
He said boys, sit down and shutup.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Well, that would be the law of talking to the
cowboys who were rowdy right.
Well, Luke McGlue's still inthe audience somewhere.
Luke's out there, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Luke's out there.
He tells them.
He says again sit down, shut up, mind your manners, I'm not
going to tell you again.
He returns the podium to DrMeredith Said Dr Meredith,
please continue.
And Dr Meredith at theinvitation, he continued his
discussion and it wasn't morethan a few minutes before an
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outbreak starts again.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Oh boy.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Dr Meredith apparently said something that
infuriated one of the cowboys.
It may have been Luke himself.
We don't know.
History doesn't record exactlywho it was that stood up and
started shooting his mouth off.
But the cowboys got mad and gotupset.
They started going off on eachother and on Dr Meredith and
calling him just every name inthe book and each other.
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It was just short of guns beingdrawn.
Mr Masterson, of course, seeingthe situation starting to
escalate, once again, gets down,goes out to the crowd and says
boys, this is your lastopportunity.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
He must have said that in a very firm way oh
absolutely.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And when Batmasters had spoken and Bat had a
reputation going all the wayback to Adobe Walls, they knew
he wasn't a man to trifle with.
And of course, meanwhile MrWyatt Earp is sitting back there
knowing full well what wasgoing on.
See, Wyatt knew.
Wyatt had hung around with Lukea time or two as well.
He knew the situation.
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Wyatt's trying not to smile,and of course so is Mr Masterson
.
He's being as hard as he canwhile trying to hide the smirk,
At least from Dr Meredith.
See, he's got his back toMeredith this whole time.
Last time he says Boys, I'm notgoing to tell you again, Sit
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down, keep your mouth shut, mindyour manners and pay attention.
Returns the podium to DrMeredith.
Third and final time DrMeredith continues his lecture.
By this time he's getting amite nervous.
Meredith.
Third and final time Dr Meredithcontinues his lecture.
By this time he's getting amite nervous.
Words are starting to break.
He's looking around the roomjust wondering which one of
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these fellers might be Luke,which one is going to start to
ruckus the next time.
And the second that Dr Meredithstops paying attention, up
jumps.
Somebody starts yelling back atDr Meredith, pulls his gun out,
shoots the light out, gunsstart blazing.
The room goes pitch black, thelamps are gone, Gunfire it's
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pandemonium.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
So we got sparks in the air, lights out, totally
Pitch black In the saloon.
Gunfire, gun smoke, absolutely,it's just like pandemonium,
absolute pandemonium, pure chaos.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Finally, bat Masterson.
Once again, erp has to join in.
This time.
They corral the crowd, theysubdue them, find a light, turn
a lamp back on, they look aroundand Dr Meredith is nowhere to
be found.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
The guy just disappeared they start hunting
around the room.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Finally, they see his tail end sticking out from
behind the podium.
That must have been had a shotthrough his hat.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Uh-oh, uh-oh, that got pretty close.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Bat gets down on his knees.
Uh-oh, uh-oh, that got prettyclose.
Bat gets down on his knees, ohyeah, well, this is the standard
practical joke for Dodge City.
It means shot through the hat.
I don't want to say this wasnecessarily tame, but it was
probably middle of the ground.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Okay, no one actually got hurt.
Okay, so nobody really ever gothurt, but it got close to being
hurt.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
If it didn't get close.
It's not a good practical joke.
I got you so it just scaredthem.
It scared the holy hell out ofDr Meredith.
Gotcha Bat gets down on hishands and knees.
He apologizes profusely to DrMeredith.
He said I'll tell you whatwe're going to do.
He said this is just notworking out.
I I'll tell you what we'regoing to do.
He said this is just notworking out.
I apologize, I don't knowwhat's gotten into these boys.
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We're going to try this again.
We're going to put you up inthe Dodge house.
We're going to get you a nicehotel room and we're going to
come back.
We're going to give you theDodge City treatment all day
tomorrow and tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
We're going to do this all over again and we're
going to do this all over againand we're going to do it right,
oh, okay.
So now, after he's got a wholeshot through his head, bat
Masterson's actually telling himthat we're going to do another
night of this.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
We're going to give it another shot.
We'll see.
He doesn't want to seeminhospitable.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Well, of course not.
I mean, that's what Dodge isvery.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
At his best, Dodge was known as very hospitable.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
To anybody that came into town.
They were good too.
Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Absolutely.
They roll out the red copper.
Well, dr Meredith still shaking.
Thanks, mr Masterson.
He eyeballs the hole in his hat, returns the hat to his head.
He eyeballs the hole in his hat, returns the hat to his head.
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Try to set up an appointmentfor that evening.
And Dr Meredith has alreadyboarded the train and is gone
from Dodge City, never to beseen or heard from again.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah, I'm sure glad they well, I hope they didn't
sell tickets that morning forthat event, because they
probably would have been insomewhat of a dilemma on who was
going to make the next speech.
But anyway, that's a greatstory.
Brad, that's one of myfavorites.
Enjoy that.
So we're going to have to talka little bit more down the road
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about more whiskey, of course oh, absolutely.
And we're going to have to havemore legends, of course.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Well, one thing Dodge is not short on is whiskey and
legends.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
We got a lot of whiskey to look at, drink at,
absolutely, and we have a lot oflegends to talk about and we're
going to do this everyWednesday.
Right, we are Well, that's agood thing Whiskey and Westerns
on Wednesday.
Going to make this very simple.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
We do two things we drink whiskey and talk about the
American West.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Well, if you want to hear a story about the legends
of Dodge City, join us on theWild West podcast.
You can do a Google search WildWest podcast and we will be
here every Wednesday for youguys just testing out a new
whiskey, and also listen to ourshow Whiskey and Westerns.
(26:20):
And then, of course, join usfor the Luke McGlue story at the
Wild West podcast this week onWednesday, whiskey and Westerns.
We want to thank you forlistening to our pod show.
Thank you,
Here we go again.
I demand more.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I want it, I need it and I'm gonna have it.
This pod show is pleased tobring you Whiskey Westerns on
Wednesday, direct from DodgeCity, kansas, featuring rich
topics on the legends of the OldWest.
Whiskey to motivate Westerns,to inspire Get it, play it,
(00:29):
drink it.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Welcome everybody to our very first Whiskey and
Westerns on Wednesday pod show.
My name is Mike King.
I'm the producer and writer ofWild West Podcast.
Today we have with us BradSmalley, a noted passionate
Dodge City historian and thenarrator of our show.
During each pod show we will betalking about one or more of
(01:02):
the legends of Dodge City.
We will also take a few shotsfrom one of our selected bottles
of whiskey.
Brad, welcome to today's show.
What do you have in store forus this evening?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Well, for lack of anything better and trust me,
there's not much better outthere we're going to start with
a bottle of scotch, believe itor not, the Artbag 10.
We're going to start with abottle of scotch, believe it or
not, the Ardbeg 10, each 10years.
It's one of the Isla Scotches,one of five distilleries on the
island of Isla in Scotland.
(01:35):
It is a single malt and, mike,I'm ready to pour whenever you
are.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Oh, I'm ready for it myself.
Why don't you get me a littleshot there and we'll see what
this Arbic 10 tastes like?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well now, as of course you know, we not the
first time today we have sampledthis.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
No, we had a little bit prior to our show just to
make sure that we didn't coughwhen we drank it.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It's just a little bit of tasting notes.
It's fairly clear for a singlemalt scotch it's very light,
almost like a white wine.
It is not subtle for all of youscotch drinkers out there, if
there are any.
It is not subtle for all of youscotch drinkers out there, if
there are any.
(02:28):
Now I should add, of course,since we are of course, a
Western American, westernpodcast scotch, not the most
American of alcohols.
However, like many scotches,isla is aged in American bourbon
casks.
So there you have it.
There's the American tie.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
That's very good to know, brad, and you know one of
the things that has always beena mystery to me.
You know we're drinking out ofa glass here and you poured me a
little bit more than a shot,but anyway, I was thinking about
the shot glass.
Can you tell me a little bitabout the history of the shot
and the shot glass?
Because what I understand isthat the Cowboys used to trade a
(03:11):
bullet for a shot of whiskeyand that's why it was called a
shot of whiskey.
Is there any truth to that oris that myth?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's one of those great American Western myths.
Really, the story is great.
I've used it myself, in fact.
However, really nothing couldbe further from the truth.
We've done some research inseveral different sources.
Generally speaking, a shot ofwhiskey would run you about two
(03:44):
bits 25 cents.
A specific Dodge City examplewhen George Hoover opened up the
first bar that became DodgeCity, he was selling a ladle
whiskey by the ladle for 25cents.
Now, of course, we have no wayof knowing how big his ladle was
.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
No we don't, but you can imagine a ladle back in
those days, probably more thanour standard shot in 2018.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I would say at least a cup of coffee out of that one.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Now, the price that we have figured is in the 1870s.
25 cents would have bought younot one bullet closer to 10.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, yeah, okay, so bullets are cheaper then than 25
cents.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, life is a little bit cheaper than a shot
of whiskey.
I guess, I guess, so I guess soAll right.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Well, I can tell you that your fact and legend story
really does not come close tothe sweetness of my first shot
of Arbeg, so I'll beg you foranother one.
How about that?
We've, we've got a whole bottleto go, okay, well, I want to
take another shot of this andwe'll keep on moving here.
(04:56):
Um, okay, one more questionbefore we get started on the
legendary character of the OldWest why is peat needed for
whiskey production and how doesthe smoke flavor come into the
whiskey?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Well, in that part of Scotland, actually in much of
Scotland, one of their biggestnatural resources is peat.
Okay, now, peat is almost nowpeat is it's almost sludge
really.
It is decayed.
Uh, vegetable matter that uhover the course, in the whiskey
(05:33):
or what.
What they use to dry it out, uh,it is.
Whereas in many parts of thefrontier they would use, uh say,
buffalo chips to start a firevery good, any sort of natural
resource, something that coulddry things out, because this
doesn't taste grassy at all.
Not in the slightest, not inthe slightest.
What you're getting is thesmoke that dried out the barley
(05:57):
that they used to make then thewhiskey, much as they would just
any campfire, and there areseveral scotches out there that
you can really tell thatcampfire odor.
You can really get that smoke.
This is more of, almost more of, an oily, an oily smoke, but
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that is that's really.
All it was used for is just todry out the grain.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Well, you know, just kind of taking a sniff of this,
you were talking earlier that itsmelled a little like black
pepper uh, there are lots ofdifferent tasting notes we could
do.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
we could go probably another 30 minutes just talking
about all the flavors that wecan get out of here and uh, well
, we did that a little bitBefore we even got started on
the show Before we came on theair.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Folks, yeah, you know we had a nurse with us too and
she was talking about.
It smelled a little like a.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Band-Aid that is not uncommon in a single malt scotch
, especially not from the IslaScotches.
The isla scotches, uh, I trulyI don't know how else to
describe that, other than whenyou first open up a box of brand
new band-aids, you get that.
Uh, we were talking also.
(07:14):
Uh, she was getting some ofthat.
Uh, ether, ether, uh, was that,was that in the nose or the
theI get that what you'retalking about.
I almost got a little morementhol in there and the more
I'm thinking about that kind ofBand-Aid, it's almost turning
(07:36):
into beeswax for me.
It's getting that—you mentionedthe sweetness and it is very
sweet.
It's really turning intobeeswax.
Along with that fruit.
I'm getting pear.
Yeah, some little pear in here.
Get it out of here.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
A little black pepper .
Black pepper lime.
I'm just wondering if we'regoing to need a Band-Aid after
we get through with this.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
But anyway, let's get started with.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
You know, I just had my second shot of Arbic 10.
You know, I just had my secondshot of Arbic 10.
So let's talk a little bitabout Legends of Dodge City,
because, after all, this isWhiskey and Westerns on
Wednesday.
Right, it is a city founded bywhiskey.
We run as well, absolutely.
So we need to maybe bring insome famous character that we
(08:21):
know about in Dodge City.
Do you have a special characterin mind for tonight's show?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
In fact I do, Given the nature of what a nice glass
of whiskey you'll do with agroup of friends, sort of brings
out the good humor in us all,don't you?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
think, oh, I think so , and if I take one more of
these, which I probably willthere in a minute, but go right
ahead, tell us about.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'll tell you, nobody in Dodge City and I do mean
nobody had a better sense ofhumor than a fellow by the name
of Luke McGlue Luke McGlue, nowthat sounds kind of like an
Irishman.
It might have been, except forthe fact that he never did exist
.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Well, I can tell you this Ar, our big Tim exists, and
that's Irish.
Well, it's Scottish, but closeenough.
Oh well, it's a differentcountry then, right, so maybe he
was Scottish Instead of Irish.
It could have been.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
But the fact remains, he was a completely fictional
character.
Oh so okay, so See now he was acompletely fictional character.
Oh so okay, so See now Luke was.
To put the easiest spin on it,luke was the scapegoat for all
of the practical jokes thathappened in and around Dodge
City during that time.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Would that be because of the whiskey?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Well, now see as violent a town as Dodge City was
in those early days, the boysin town needed a way to let off
a little steam.
Now, practical jokesgood-natured as they might have
been sometimes things got alittle rough.
Now, when things start gettingrough, you need somebody to
blame.
Okay, now, if you need somebodyto blame, okay, now, if you
(10:05):
need somebody to blame that, youcan find that's a bit of a
problem, because then you've gotpotential for violence.
So what they did Was theycreated A fella by the name of
Luke McGlue.
Now say dirty words Are paintedon the water tower.
Or say your mule gets stolen Inthe middle of the night.
(10:25):
Or say a traveling salesmanshows up and loses all of his
cigars during a showroom.
Well, if that happens, you needto find a scapegoat.
Well, go find Luke McGlue.
Luke's probably got your mule.
So what you're saying— Luke wasreal hard to find.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
What you're saying is this guy was all made up,
purely made up, completelyfictional.
When they pulled a practicaljoke on a citizen in Dodge City,
they just said who did it andthey named Luke McGlue.
Luke McGlue, oh, we are, yes.
So can you tell us one of thestories about Luke McGlue and
(11:04):
some of the practical jokes, andwhat year are we talking about?
Are we talking about 1872, 1877?
Oh, by the late 1870ss he'sbecoming more popular is he
becoming popular among a certaingroup of people, the practical
jokers, or who's he becoming?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
popular with most of the folks that you've heard of
from Dodge City, folks like thename of Bat Masterson, to a
lesser extent even Wyatt EarpChalkley Beeson, owner of the
Long Branch Saloon.
These were big players in theLuke Maglue crowd.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
So they were the practical jokers.
The leaders of the town wereactually making practical jokes
on the citizens, exactly, andthen blaming it on Luke Maglue.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
The West never had a greater practical joker than Bat
Masterson.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
So he was Bat Masterson.
So he was back Bat Masterson,wasn't he like a law leader?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Oh, for a time in Dodge he was county sheriff.
He was deputy sheriff.
In the early days, from 1876 on, County sheriff was about the
peak of his law enforcementcareer.
But he was out there playingjokes on.
You Bat had a sense of humorlike no other.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Oh, we are.
So you have a particular storyyou want to share with us about
Luke McGlue, maybe Bat Mastersonand a practical joke that he
pulled that he blamed on McGlue.
Well, there's a few.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
There's a good many of them that probably we might
not want to tell in mixedcompany, but one of my favorites
.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Well, hold on just a second.
This is my favorite here.
I'm taking another shot,absolutely.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
We've got a long bottle of kill.
Another bottle of kill.
Mike, didn't you tell me aminute ago that I'd already
poured you more than you wanted?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Well see, that's what happened when you poured me
more than I wanted.
Now I want more.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Whiskey and friends.
Practical jokes.
There we go.
All right, yeah, can I help youwith any?
You might as well.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Top it off.
Okay, here we go.
This is going to be a goodstory, so Well, I hope you don't
fall out of your chair there,my friend.
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So Luke McGlue, batmaster Sin and the Practical
Jokes of Dodge City, one of thegreatest involves a traveling
salesman with the unfortunatename of Dr Meredith.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Was he a traveling salesman or was he a doctor?
Speaker 1 (13:46):
At that time you're splitting hairs on the
difference between the two.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
So he was a traveling salesman of a doctor.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
He was claiming to be a medical man.
What he was doing was sellinginformation.
Okay, he wrote ahead to DodgeCity and in his letter he asked
if there was anyone in town whomight be interested in hearing a
lecture on, shall we say,private diseases.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Would that be something you would be
embarrassed about back in thosedays?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Most generally even then, yes, okay, okay, given the
leading occupation in many ofthe saloons and dance halls at
that time, private diseases werea bit of an issue.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
So that would be something that the men of Dodge
City would be interested inhearing.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Potentially, yes, okay, and see, even at that time
Dodge City was in the newspapers nationwide.
People knew Dodge City, knowDodge City, they knew its
reputation.
And this Dr Meredith thought hewas going to solve some of
those problems.
If nothing else, he could makesome money off of these western
Kansas sad sets, Gotcha.
(14:57):
Well, Luke McGlue wrote himback a letter and said Dr
Meredith, I would be veryinterested in hearing what you
have to say.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
So Luke wrote this letter.
Luke wrote this letter.
Did he sign it with his name?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
He must have, he must have.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
The good doctor believed it right.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
The good doctor believed that at least one man
was interested and of course heassumed that once he got there a
crowd would gather, as thingsare known to happen.
So Dr Meredith got himself onthe train and came out to Dodge
City and Bat Mr Masterson, someof the other leading citizens of
the town.
(15:38):
They got together and they sethim up a little lecture hall in
one of the other Leadingcitizens Of the town.
They got together and they sethim up A little lecture hall In
one of the saloons.
Was that the Lady Gay Saloon?
It was the Lady Gay, in fact,one of the One of the more
notorious.
We've got a lot of Storiesabout the Lady Gay.
We may Want to buy ourselves Afew more bottles of whiskey If
we really want to come.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
That's for episodes to come.
Absolutely Stay tuned.
Right now we're talking aboutthe Lady Gay Saloon, dr Meredith
and Luke McGlue and BatMasterson all being involved in
these diseases.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Now Luke McGlue had been able to gather up quite a
crowd to come and come and hearDr Meredith, they set him up a
podium back there on theperformance stage for the Lady
Gate and, of course, MrMasterson and Wyatt Earp
happened to be the I don't wantto use the term referees.
(16:33):
They were the well, they werethere Wearing their badges, Just
to make sure that there were nodisturbances, Just to keep
order, just in case somebody wasinsulted by a disease that they
may have not known aboutEveryone understood Dodge's
reputation.
You needed some enforcement.
(16:53):
Just in case.
They were the just in casesquad.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Everybody carried a gun too, right or did?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
they.
Well, they weren't supposed to,but laws were a little bit lax
on the south side of therailroad tracks, which happens
to be where the Lady Gay wassituated.
See, okay, luke was prettyactive on the south side of the
railroad tracks, I'll say itthat way.
Was pretty active on the southside of the railroad tracks,
I'll say it that way.
Well, now, once his crowd hadgathered, mr Bat Masterson stood
(17:24):
up.
He addressed the crowd, heintroduced Dr Meredith and he
warned all the boys sitting outthere in the makeshift lecture
hall says pay due respect to DrMeredith.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
So he kind of said hey, hey, I'm the authority, I
am the authority, you respect,you don't believe me.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Look at the badge, you folks know me all right, you
know what I want to do.
You know I won't tolerate anytroublemaking, so don't make no
trouble.
Sit, mind your manners, listento what dr meredith has to say,
it'll do you some good.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
So they just sat out there like good old cowboys.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
They sat out there, ears open, ready to be
entertained, if nothing else.
Well the good Dr Meredith gotup to his podium and, none the
wiser, he started delivering hislecture on Private diseases,
their causes, their treatment,that sort of thing, how to avoid
(18:19):
them.
Perhaps that might have been agood topic.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Was there a lot of cowboys crossing their legs at
that time there?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
may have been, you might think.
You might think, if nothingelse, there might have been some
well.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I won't go into there .
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Uncomfortable feelings out there, yeah one of
those itches you just can'tscratch, sort of thing.
Yeah, one of those itches youjust can't scratch sort of thing
.
Well, as they're listening toDr Meredith, of course everybody
knew that somewhere in thecrowd Luke McGlue was biding his
time, Until all of a suddensomebody in the back row stood
(18:54):
up and told Dr Meredith he wasfull of crap.
Oh boy, Boy, Somebody smarterthan the doctor.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Crap, oh, boy boy, Somebody smarter than the doctor
, huh Well, naturally.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, who isn't?
And of course then the ruckusstarted.
People started arguing witheach other on one side, started
arguing against the other side.
Dr Meredith started turningbeet red from the neck up and
things started getting out ofhand.
And Bat Masterson of coursecalm, cool and collected man
that he was stepped down intothe crowd addressed the
(19:24):
situation.
He said boys, sit down and shutup.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Well, that would be the law of talking to the
cowboys who were rowdy right.
Well, Luke McGlue's still inthe audience somewhere.
Luke's out there, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Luke's out there.
He tells them.
He says again sit down, shut up, mind your manners, I'm not
going to tell you again.
He returns the podium to DrMeredith Said Dr Meredith,
please continue.
And Dr Meredith at theinvitation, he continued his
discussion and it wasn't morethan a few minutes before an
(20:01):
outbreak starts again.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Oh boy.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Dr Meredith apparently said something that
infuriated one of the cowboys.
It may have been Luke himself.
We don't know.
History doesn't record exactlywho it was that stood up and
started shooting his mouth off.
But the cowboys got mad and gotupset.
They started going off on eachother and on Dr Meredith and
calling him just every name inthe book and each other.
(20:25):
It was just short of guns beingdrawn.
Mr Masterson, of course, seeingthe situation starting to
escalate, once again, gets down,goes out to the crowd and says
boys, this is your lastopportunity.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
He must have said that in a very firm way oh
absolutely.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And when Batmasters had spoken and Bat had a
reputation going all the wayback to Adobe Walls, they knew
he wasn't a man to trifle with.
And of course, meanwhile MrWyatt Earp is sitting back there
knowing full well what wasgoing on.
See, Wyatt knew.
Wyatt had hung around with Lukea time or two as well.
He knew the situation.
(21:05):
Wyatt's trying not to smile,and of course so is Mr Masterson
.
He's being as hard as he canwhile trying to hide the smirk,
At least from Dr Meredith.
See, he's got his back toMeredith this whole time.
Last time he says Boys, I'm notgoing to tell you again, Sit
(21:27):
down, keep your mouth shut, mindyour manners and pay attention.
Returns the podium to DrMeredith.
Third and final time DrMeredith continues his lecture.
By this time he's getting amite nervous.
Meredith.
Third and final time Dr Meredithcontinues his lecture.
By this time he's getting amite nervous.
Words are starting to break.
He's looking around the roomjust wondering which one of
(21:51):
these fellers might be Luke,which one is going to start to
ruckus the next time.
And the second that Dr Meredithstops paying attention, up
jumps.
Somebody starts yelling back atDr Meredith, pulls his gun out,
shoots the light out, gunsstart blazing.
The room goes pitch black, thelamps are gone, Gunfire it's
(22:13):
pandemonium.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
So we got sparks in the air, lights out, totally
Pitch black In the saloon.
Gunfire, gun smoke, absolutely,it's just like pandemonium,
absolute pandemonium, pure chaos.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Finally, bat Masterson.
Once again, erp has to join in.
This time.
They corral the crowd, theysubdue them, find a light, turn
a lamp back on, they look aroundand Dr Meredith is nowhere to
be found.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
The guy just disappeared they start hunting
around the room.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Finally, they see his tail end sticking out from
behind the podium.
That must have been had a shotthrough his hat.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Uh-oh, uh-oh, that got pretty close.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Bat gets down on his knees.
Uh-oh, uh-oh, that got prettyclose.
Bat gets down on his knees, ohyeah, well, this is the standard
practical joke for Dodge City.
It means shot through the hat.
I don't want to say this wasnecessarily tame, but it was
probably middle of the ground.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Okay, no one actually got hurt.
Okay, so nobody really ever gothurt, but it got close to being
hurt.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
If it didn't get close.
It's not a good practical joke.
I got you so it just scaredthem.
It scared the holy hell out ofDr Meredith.
Gotcha Bat gets down on hishands and knees.
He apologizes profusely to DrMeredith.
He said I'll tell you whatwe're going to do.
He said this is just notworking out.
I I'll tell you what we'regoing to do.
He said this is just notworking out.
I apologize, I don't knowwhat's gotten into these boys.
(23:40):
We're going to try this again.
We're going to put you up inthe Dodge house.
We're going to get you a nicehotel room and we're going to
come back.
We're going to give you theDodge City treatment all day
tomorrow and tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
We're going to do this all over again and we're
going to do this all over againand we're going to do it right,
oh, okay.
So now, after he's got a wholeshot through his head, bat
Masterson's actually telling himthat we're going to do another
night of this.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
We're going to give it another shot.
We'll see.
He doesn't want to seeminhospitable.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Well, of course not.
I mean, that's what Dodge isvery.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
At his best, Dodge was known as very hospitable.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
To anybody that came into town.
They were good too.
Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Absolutely.
They roll out the red copper.
Well, dr Meredith still shaking.
Thanks, mr Masterson.
He eyeballs the hole in his hat, returns the hat to his head.
He eyeballs the hole in his hat, returns the hat to his head.
(24:57):
Try to set up an appointmentfor that evening.
And Dr Meredith has alreadyboarded the train and is gone
from Dodge City, never to beseen or heard from again.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah, I'm sure glad they well, I hope they didn't
sell tickets that morning forthat event, because they
probably would have been insomewhat of a dilemma on who was
going to make the next speech.
But anyway, that's a greatstory.
Brad, that's one of myfavorites.
Enjoy that.
So we're going to have to talka little bit more down the road
(25:28):
about more whiskey, of course oh, absolutely.
And we're going to have to havemore legends, of course.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Well, one thing Dodge is not short on is whiskey and
legends.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
We got a lot of whiskey to look at, drink at,
absolutely, and we have a lot oflegends to talk about and we're
going to do this everyWednesday.
Right, we are Well, that's agood thing Whiskey and Westerns
on Wednesday.
Going to make this very simple.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
We do two things we drink whiskey and talk about the
American West.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Well, if you want to hear a story about the legends
of Dodge City, join us on theWild West podcast.
You can do a Google search WildWest podcast and we will be
here every Wednesday for youguys just testing out a new
whiskey, and also listen to ourshow Whiskey and Westerns.
(26:20):
And then, of course, join usfor the Luke McGlue story at the
Wild West podcast this week onWednesday, whiskey and Westerns.
We want to thank you forlistening to our pod show.
Thank you,
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