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Speaker 1 (00:00):
H a lot of them folded oft and loss. This
is the show. Oh right, everybody, welcome to your one

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book show, a special edition. Happy Thanksgiving to everybody. I
hope you're all all of you in America. At least
it is an American holiday. We'll talk about that. I
hope you're all all your Americans having a fantastic day.
Opportunity to get together with people you love, whether they

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be family, friends, and uh and have a great meal.
I think I think a big part of Thanksgiving is
is eating is eating good food with great company, having
lots of conversation. Don't fight about politics. It's not worth it.

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It's just not worth it. Walk away, walk away. Yeah,
you know, Thanksaving. This is great holiday, great time of year.
I said before, I love the period between Thanksgiving and
New Years. It's it's really things seem to slow down
a little bit, and particularly this year where I'm not traveling,

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they're going to slow down. And it's a time for reflection,
a time for planning for the future, a time of
catching up and all the stuff you didn't do the
whole year and you need to get done, so it's
a time to do that. And it all starts with Thanksaving.
It starts with this day where again you celebrate with

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people you love, hopefully and you eat a big meal.
What better way to celebrate than big and tasty Hopefully, hopefully,
hopefully you guys know how to make tokey tasty. That
takes extraordinary skill, very very rare in my experience to
get tasty turki. It would be good if Thanksgiving changed

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the centrality of the turkey and brought in something a
little bit more, more flavorful, more juicy to the table.
But anyway, good food, good company, It is great. Jennifer
loves toki. Yeah, here, we're gonna here, We're gonna massively disagree, Jennifer.

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I just don't get the attraction of turkey. It's pretty
flavorless and usually quite dry. But uh but yeah, So
let's talk a little bit about this holiday called Thanksgiving.
I mean, the the holiday was made. The holiday was

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made officially a government holiday, a holiday of the United States,
by a first president, by George Washington. It was very
much imbued with a with religion at the time. There
was really a lot of in the proclamation that he makes.

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There's a lot about thanking God and thinking providence and
God and God makes many many appearances in this and
even if you go back to the to I guess
the Pilgrims. The first Thanksgiving dinner supposedly is about thanking
God for the harvest, but I don't think that's how

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it's moved. I think it's very much adopted kind of
a very secular perspective on being thankful and on the
bounty which one celebrates, which one celebrates during the meal.

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If you've ever seen a movie called Shenandoah, if you
haven't seen a movie called Shenandoah, definitely worth seeing, particularly
the first half. The second half is quite depressing, but
it's a good movie. I mean it it. Even the
depressing part has value, and it's the first part is
is amazing. And there's a scene where Jimmy Stewart, who's

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the patriarch of the family, his his wife has passed away,
and his son's at the table and I guess his
daughter in law and the same grace and this I
always remember this doing Thanksgiving and the saying grace over
the over the meal, and you know, he says, you know,
I don't really want to say grace, but but you know,

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my my my wife before she died she she she
had me promise that that I would raise you guys
as as Christians. I guess as religion with religion, and
clearly he is not religious. And the grace goes something
like this, you know, and and and this is this

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is I think, really what thinks is all about, and
what grace should be all about. To the extent that
anybody says grace, it goes something like this. You know,
we we we plowed the earth. We got up in
the mornings and we planted the seeds, we harvested the crops,

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and and and sold it at markets, and we you know,
raised the chickens and and you know, got the whatever.
You know, we did this, we did this, We did this,
We did this. It is a product of It is
a consequence of all of our actions of what we
have done. All the food on this table is a

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product of what we have done out productive work. I'm
putting maybe a little bit of woods into his mouth,
but basically that's what he's saying. And then it ends
with and God, thank you. Anyway, So I think it
captures captures I need to get. I need to get

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the actual language of the of the Uh. Let's see
if I can pull it up. Uh, I wonder if
we could, you know, this video of it, but let's

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see if you let's see if if we've got the text. Yeah,
we're not going to get the text for it. Uh,
well maybe this is it. Here here, here you go, yeah,
here here, this is this is good Lord. We cleared

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the land, we plowed it, sold it and harvested it.
We cooked the harvest. It wouldn't be here. We wouldn't
be eating it if it hadn't been if if we
hadn't done it all ourselves. We work dog bone hard
for every crumb and morsel. But we thank you just

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the same anyway, Lord for the food we're about to eat.
I'm in I it's perfect. I think it's perfect. I
think it captures, it captures you know, Thanksgiving. So, yes,
there's a religious element. Yes they all want to thank

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God for everything. But the reality is that to the
extent that you have built at home, that you that
you have bought a home, and you have created a
life and uh and and Thanksgiving is to celebrate all
of that. It's it's the home that you have, the
life that you have created, whether it's it's with a partner,

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with a loved one with kids. But but it's something
you created, you worked on, you produced, And then it's
about the bounty on the table, the plenty on the table.
There's always too much food during Thanksgiving. And there's a
reason there's too much food, because it's a celebration of plenty.

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It's a celebration of the bounty of our own production,
of what we have earned, of what we've created, of
what we have produced. And of course, beyond the food,
it's the place. It's the ability to sit and eat
in comfort and everything that goes into that. It is

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ultimately a celebration of successful production. This design rand on Thanksgiving,
and I think she really does, she really does capture it.
She says Thanksgiving is a typical American holiday. She italicized
American Thanksgiving is a typical American holiday. In spite of

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its religious form giving thanks to God for good harvest,
it's essential secular meaning is a celebration of successful production.
It's a producers holiday. The lavish meal is a symbol
of the fact that abundant consumption is the result and
reward of production. Abundance is, or was and ought to

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be America's pride. Just that it is the pride of
American parents that their children need never know starvation. I
mean that is a beautiful capturing of what I think
Thanksgiving is about. It is linked to production, because it
is linked to the harvest. It is linked to the

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food on the table. It is linked to one's ability
to feed one's family and feed when kids one's kids,
and to produce and to enjoy the bounty of one's production.
It is a consumer's holiday. It's it's we're consuming what
we've produced. We're eating it. Eating is consumption. Generally, consumption

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is destroying the stuff that you've produced, right, So in
that sense, it really is it's a beautiful holiday. It's
a holiday to contemplate the things that you are thankful
for that have made it possible for you to sit
and enjoy the meal and enjoy the company of the

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people around you. And it is an opportunity to contemplate
your success in life, or your future success in life,
your plans to be successful. But it's about being successful.
It's about you know, abundance, abundance, And of course, there's

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no country in human history with more abundance than the
United States of America. There's no country in human here
that is produced as much as America. America is the
land of abundance because it is the land of production,
and therefore it is very much a American holiday. We'll

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talk more about that in a minute, but it's a
great time to celebrate capitalism in many respects. This is
Capitalism Day because production, production, at the end of the day,
is really abundance. Abundance in production. I mean, remember the Pilgrims. God,
I mean, the Pilgrims tried socialism, right, and what half

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of them died? I mean, there was some horrific number
died they. I mean, the Pilgrims had a horrible time.
And it's the abundance that we have today, the abundance
that America has had since really it's founding. The amazing
quantity and quality of production that is America is a

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consequence of whatever freedom has been allowed, whatever capitalism has
been embraced. We live in one of, you know, probably
historically the fierce country in human history. We live in
the country that's come closest to abiding by the principles

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of capitalism. We live in a country that has respected
for the most part on and off property rights. We've
lived in a country that has, relatively speaking, left individuals
free in their productive endeavors to pursue their own values,

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their own ideas, their own dreams, to fail and to succeed.
And it's that it's that freedom, it's that element, that
bit of capitalism in our culture, in our world, in
our country, in America, that we should be celebrating on
this day with a goal, a goal looking into the future,

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of having more of it, a fighting for it, of
establishing it as the way in which the way in
which we all live, and the way in which recognizing
the value of it so that we can expand it
and not shrink it. But yeah, this is a day
to contemplate capitalism, to contemplate the beauty, the beauty, yes, beauty,

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the esthetic beauty, and that it has, that it is
that the system is, and the abundance wealth that it
is made possible. And in that sense, it's a it's
a data contemplate America and and and what this country

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is and what it stands for, particularly in these stormy,
difficult times when the notion of America is slowly slipping
through our fingers and disappearing and and uh and being
taken over the notion of America by elements that are

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just wrong, worse than wrong, fundamentally anti American. So what
makes this un impossible, What makes this un impossible is
the American principles, the principles that that define this country.
The principles of individual rights of all men, idea that

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all men are created equal, equal not in their opportunities,
not in their outcome, equal in their rights, equal in
their freedoms, equal in their liberties, equal before the law,
the law being that which protects their rights and their liberty.

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The ideal of America is the capitalist ideal, in which
government protects the right to life, liberty, property, and the
pursuit of happiness and otherwise leaves us the hell alone.
And Thanksgiving, where we are benefiting from the abundance created
by being left alone, is the time to remember that

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and to celebrate it, and to tell our kids that
story and to emphasize it out there, you know, without
getting into political arguments. Start a time for politics, it's
a time for principles. It's a time to remember and
resurrect and bring back those great principles of America. So

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there is a you know, Thanksgiving I think is multi
multi leveled. I for example, am an incredibly thankful to America.
I am an immigrant to this country, and I came
here young, married but with no kids. I've had kids here,

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I built my career here, I did my education here.
I have flourished in this country, flourished in this country,
and I intend to have an abundant meal today, abundant consumption, yes,
as a consequence of the fact that I have flourished

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in this country. And I'm thankful to the founders. I
can't say I'm particularly thankful to any politician that has
governed this country since I came. They've all been h
they've all been, you know, dramatically less than good. But
I'm truly thankful. And this is a good day to

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remember this to the founders and a system of government
they created that has lasted now coming up to two
hundred and fifty years. And yeah, it seemed perfect. And yeah,
you know, certainly in modern times that has descended and
moved away from what they created. But they created such
a beautiful thing, such a powerful system of government, such

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a you know, an amazing, an amazing constitution and declaration
and spirit, maybe more than anything else, a spirit this
has allowed this country to continue to be the land
of abundance, to continue to be the land of successful production,
continue to be the land of thanksgiving. They continue to

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be the land that you know, we all as individuals
can actually in spite of all the bad we all
can't flourish in, can't succeed in, can raise families in,
build careers in produce, create, build and consume, have great
meals in and buy fun stuff in Tomorrow's black fighting

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more consumption. Just you know, I'm really happy with black
fighting that you can do stuff online because you know,
one of my one of my commandments in life is
thou shalt never go shopping on black fighting. Nothing is
worth it. No discount in the world is worth going

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to mall or store on black fighting. So yeah, we
live in a country where you can still consume, you
can still create the wealth that makes it possible for
you to consume a plenty and and and live well,

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live well, and Thanksgiving, and I guess black fighting are
good reminders and illustrations of that, good reminders and illustrations
of that. So I'm thankful to the founders and thankful
to Americans who have built this country, particularly the great producers,

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the great innovators, the nineteenth century, so called Robert barons,
the people who built great industries, the people who went
out there into the prairie, into the unknown and built
a life and then built a country. And you know,
the great industrialists who made this country. There is no America.

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I mean, I love the funny fathers, and they created
this country, no question. But what makes America America? What
makes American America? What makes America the land of production
and a line of abundance and the line of consumption
and all of this, what makes it all possible are

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the great producers and what makes it You know, everybody
loves the funny fathers, but what makes it important to
remember the great producers is that they've always been hated.
They've always been despised, they've always been put down, they've
always been ridiculed. They were called, and still are called
the rubber barons, robbers, barons, aristocrats, when they're the opposite

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of robbers and the opposite of barons. Many of them
started with nothing and rose up and created All of
them created the wealth. They didn't steal it, they didn't
take it, They created it, and by creating it, they
made so many people around them wealthy. As well that
to call them rubber barons is one of, if not

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the greatest injustice in all of history that I can
think of. I mean, these great men of industry and
men of business really because it's it's bankers and merchants,
and you know, imagine the guy you know, the Sears
and Roebuck and and how that make life in the

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late nineteen six you early twentieth century so much easier
for Americans when they could get a catalog and they
could all this stuff by mail, they wouldn't dependent on that,
you know, little hardware still down the road or miles
and miles and miles away from where they lived in
the case of the Prairies, right, I mean, Sears Roebuck

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are just as productive as any industrialists. We worship manufacturing
in this country. We worship industry in this country, but
the reality is that it's business. We should worship any
kind of business, including who God forbid services like Sears
Roebuck is services. I don't think they've ever gotten the
credit they deserved, just like Amazon never gets the credit

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they deserve. You're making our life so much better. So
I'm thankful to all the great businessmen in American history,
from JP Morgan to see Us to a singer who
built the sewing machines and made a fortune off of

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sewing machines, to Carnegie Steele to Rockefeller Oil, to what's
his name Carrier who designed the first air conditioning. I
benefited enormously. Couldn't live here in Puerto Rico without that one.
And you could go on and on. It's a great
day to remind yourself of all the people who made
the modern world possible. And we or I encourage you

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at least not to think of the people who made
the modern world possible as politicians or generals or the
great Greatest Generation or any bs like that. The people
who made the modern world possible are the billionaires or

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their equivalent in American history. They are the people who, yeah,
who created the wealth that made America, created the wealth
that made the West the West. There's nothing if not
for the wealth that it has, whatever spiritual values associated
with that, ultimately the result of the wealth that was created.

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So who built America? Who made America? It's the wealth producers,
the wealth creators, the builders, the makers. You want inspiration
in life, and there's too little inspiration. You want heroes,

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You want to admire people as this young generations search
us for meaning. Well, one place you can find that meaning.
One place you can find heroes. One place you can
find find role models, find people who found their purpose

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and pursued their purpose is in the great business leaders
of America, from Jeapizos to Steve Jobs to to you know,
there's a whole mid century there with lots of business
men whose whose name names unfortunately have been forgotten. Uh

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to Ford and uh and and again Carnegie and and
and Melon and uh at JP Morgan. Oh, you know,
Michael Milkin. There's another one. There's another banker. We need,
we need some bankers in this, but definitely Michael Milkin.
These are real heroes. You want a role model for masculinity. Again,

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we're we're on the theme of meaning. Generation they cannot
find meaning, or a generation that's been told that the
only way to find meaning is by looking out there,
over something bigger than yourself. No, No, you want to
find meaning, you know, explore the lives, particularly in in
in their careers of these great innovators, great builders, great creators, building, creating, making,

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doing producing that gives life meaning. Edison, Yeah, I mean
you guys, can add names. I'm just rattling off on
the top of my head, so happy to add names
that that you guys can come up with on the chat.
You know, I think of the founders of of of Intel,

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and and and and and the creators of the of
the micro processor, and the builders you know, feach Out Semiconductor,
the first the first building. You know, I have a
little bit of a love relationship with with Tesla and Moss.
But I mentioned Jeff Bezos, Ronald McDonald. Some of you

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like fast food, but you know good it's these This
is the time that people behind Costco Walmont is Sam Walton,
I mean Sam Walton, God, he has he changed America,
made reduced the cost of living for so many Americans,

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allowed them to take to allowed them to benefit from
and and and embrace abundance even when they're not rich,
wealthy Vanderbilt. Yeah, I mean, I mean, there's there's a lot.

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There's a lot. These are and and these are many
of them, not all of them, but many of them
start with nothing. That like Harrasiology's stories, but in real life,
they start with nothing and they make something of their lives.
And then you get whiny gen zas and millennials and
a lot of boomers just who can't stop to complain

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about their life, can't stop to complain about the world,
can't stop to complain about the lack of meaning and
the lack of this and the lack of that, and that.
Go make it. Go create your world, Go build it.
Stop sitting on your bumb get up and do stuff.

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Use your mind, use your reason to make a life,
to build a life, to create a life. Nothing, nothing
in this life is not just going to be handed
to you on a silver platter. And if you wait
for it to be handled on a silver platter, yeah,

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you will not go anyway. You will be miserable and
suddenly you're not gonna find meaning sitting and doing nothing. Well,
Disney off at Hitchcock. Yeah, I mean, these are producers,
people who made something of their lives. Lucille Ball, she

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was funny, she was so hysterical, and uh yeah, she
was amazing. There's there's some scenes from the Lucille Ball
Show that they're just classics. So be thankful to the
great producers, including the producers who produce today. And yeah,

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we don't live in a free market. And yes, the
FED distorts prices, and maybe in a free market they
wouldn't have quite as much money as they do today.
Maybe they'd be more. I don't know. But in spite
of all the hardship, in spite of the craziness of
the world, in spite of the insanity, in spite of Washington,
d C. They build and create. So celebate Thanksgiving. It's

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a great day to celebrate producers, to celebrate in innovators,
and be thankful. I'm thankful to the founders, and I'm
thankful to the producers who built America, to the business
people who built America. This is the anti Marxist day.
I think we can all be thankful to the great

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geniuses who created and led great companies. Even they've employees
who sit with abundance on their table, not as as
as people being exploited, but as traders as traders, So

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you know, I'm thankful to this country, to its founding,
to its uh, to its producers. Of course, I'm thankful
for tyn Man, without whom I have no idea what
my life would be like. Hard for me to exactly say, uh,
and but it would not be anywhere near what it
is today. She helped me shape a fantastic life. She

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gave me the inspiration to go out and live with
the capital of l to pursue knowledge, to pursue UH,
to pursue my own happiness, to pursue you know, individual flourishing,
to pursue success, success at living, success in what you do.

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So so I'm I'm deathly thankful to man who taught
me what I know, and and to to Lenin Peacock,
whose students and my teacher. So I'm thankful to everything

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he his friendship, but even more importantly in many regards
the fact that he was a great teacher and and
and taught me this philosophy and and and taught me
to all of that son Lendipeacoff, Where would all of
us be without them? You know, thankful. This is a
date to say thanks to to the people who've shaped

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your life or or helped your life, or made life possible,
made successful life possible, made that abundance possible. And you know,
thankful to everybody at the Ironman Institute who's again helped
me become who I am, helped me to do what
I do, and UH taught me and educated me and

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inspired me. There were a lot of them. So I'm
not gonna name them, but but they're all they're all
in in my thoughts. Uh. So, yeah, this is this
is a holiday to exactly reflect on that who's had
an impact on your life, who who really shaped what
you've become. I mean you obviously you should thank yourself,

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thank yourself, thank you me, But then you should think about,
you know, the people around you, the people in your life.
You know, your your your parents may be they might
be super important. You know, a teacher, somebody who's inspired you,
somebody who's changed your life in many way. I mean,

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if you really wanted to make a list, it's very
difficult to to make it comprehensive. It includes the artists
who inspired you. It includes the novelists who who wrote
the great books that you know made you feel a
particular way and shape who you are. The makers of
movies and of course, as we said, producers in the

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realm of aesthetics and the realm of philosophy and the
realm of ideas, as well as anybody everyone else. So
people with Diego says, thank you Gate Gamegate feminists who
pushed me away from the left, which eventually got me

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to find Lennapeac Coth that's pretty funny. Yeah, sometimes I
used to thank you should be thankful for the for
the for the people who who shook you into realizing, uh,
maybe that you're on the wrong path, on a wrong
path in life. Of course. You know, I'm incredibly thankful

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to my wife who has been by my side, wow,
for very long time, for over four decades now. We
got married pretty young and has Yeah, being a partner,
an essential partner in everything that I've done, everything that

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I've done. So again, this is the day make a list.
You know, being thankful is really important. It's important for
a number of different things, right, It's important for it's
an active justice. It's an active justice even if the

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other other partner never even hears you make the things right,
even if you're just doing it in your own head.
The very fact that you are doing it, you know,
you are acting out justice. You're saying thank you with
thank you belongs and you know that, Yeah, that is

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an immense act of justice. It's a you know, it's
a it's an act of integrity. Uh. And it just
you should feel good about yourself just going through in
your mind the people that you are thankful too, even
though like the Fanni fathers, I'll never be able to
say thank you to them. I say thank you to

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len It when if I see them, But the many
people you're never going to be able to say thank
you too. And yet just going through it and recognizing
that in your mind, it's a huge boost to you.
To you, it's an active justice, and it's an act
of just recognition of reality. It's it's a it's a

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rational thing to do because you know, while you do
build it yourself, you do create yourself, you do make
choices yourself. All of us, all of us basically stand
on the shoulders of others. Again, we wouldn't be a
whare we were without Aristotle, without the founders, and without Ironman.

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And recognizing that is just again act of objectivity, being
objective about your own life and being objective about the
world in which you live. So again, things that are
good to reflect on on this day of Thanksgiving. You know,

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I've had I've had great business partners in my life.
I never understood, you know, people always tell you in
business never never partner with a friend, never go into
business with a friend. And that is the most bizarre
piece of advice I can think of just a bizarre

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piece of advice because the reality is, who would you
rather go into business with than a friend? I mean,
the business does to make sense, and your friend has
to have the skills to contribute to the business. But
who would you want to go into business with other
than a friend? Who would you want to go through

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that rough times that businesses always go through, other than
somebody you expect and share basic fundamental values with because
you're friends. So you know, Robert Handa Shott, who some
you know, is being my business partner. Why is my
business partner? We finally dissolved the business last year, but

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we were business profits for twenty six years and good
friends for probably thirty years. Still good friends, still good friends,
not business partners anymore. And he's going through really rough
times right now. And yeah, I mean, this is a
great time to be thankful for having great business partners

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and having great friends, and that combination is just important
and emotionally so gratifying. So recognize it, you know, think
about the friends you have. You know, I'm grateful for
a number of friends that I have and that I've

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had for a long time. The friends that I have,
particularly my close friends. You know, one of them goes
back to Israel, and another one goes back to the
days in Texas, and you know, it goes back a
long time. And that's that's incredibly valuable. Funnily enough, I
have no friends, literally no friends. I have no contact
with anybody from like high school or middle school or

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primary school or any school. And I've really no I
no desire for that. All my friends are kind of
post adulthood, post discovering I man, post becoming you know
who I am, I guess, and then becoming who they are.

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It is kind of funny that I know a lot
of people who have friends going back to middle school
and primary school or whatever. It's not me, not me,
So yeah, be thankful to your friendships, all right. So,

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but more than anything, I want to return to the
essence more than anything, be thankful to the producers, and
be thankful to yourself and to the people in your
life that make production possible, whether you are the producer,
whether you're supporting the producer, or whether you're a child
of a producer. Today is the day where abundance is

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put on the table, where we enjoy that abundance. Tomorrow
is the day where we use our credit cards to
make our abundance clear on Black Friday. But it's a
couple of days of abundance and we should celebrate, celebrate,
I mean, really make an effort to celebrate successful production,

(40:19):
abundance and wealth wealth creation moved broadly. This is a
great day to celebrate your life, what you've made of
it or what you are going to make of it.
It's a day to celebrate wealth creation, the creation of wealth,
the creation of that abundance. So happy thanksgiving all of you,

(40:42):
and of course my last thank you is to all
of you. Thank you for listening, for participating, for asking questions,
for challenging me, for you know, being who you are
and supporting the show making it possible. Could couldn't exist
without you, whether you know those of you particularly who

(41:02):
support it financially, whether it's on a monthly basis, whether
it's once in a while, whether it's super chats so stickers,
however you ultimately do it. The very fact that you
guys support the show is what makes it possible. It
is your recognition of what I am producing, which is
the show and my talks and things like that, and

(41:25):
I greatly greatly appreciate it. So thank you, thank you,
thank you, you guys who represent an immense value to me.
I couldn't be just. I mean, one of the things
I like about doing live shows right as compared to
tape shows and then they just go up, is in
spite of the fact that most of you listening have

(41:46):
never been on a live show and so on, the
fact that the our people live inspires me and helps
me and motivates me to do these things. It makes
it much easier than if I was just speaking to
a camera and it would go up online some point.
So thank you all for tolerating uh, you know, my
technical problems and my you know, once in a while

(42:08):
saying something that's not true. Hopefully I try to always
correct it after the fact, you know. Thank you for
for for tolerating my indulging some of the widows who
appear on the chat and and uh and I get
into arguments with I know some of you cringe when

(42:32):
that happens. I appreciate. I appreciate you being you, you
having the patience and sticking around. I know some people
didn't stick around. They're gone. Yeah, thank you for being
a great audience. You couldn't have couldn't do it without
the audience. Couldn't do it without the audience. And Jennifer
thanks me for blocking Scott. I'm thankful for blocking Scott
as well, and a few others. There are a number

(42:55):
of them now that are that are blocked. Although Scott
might be here under a pseudo name, you always get
a sense that maybe he reappears out of the dol
rooms over there, so somewhere, maybe coming to get a
little educated. All right, Well, happy Thanksgiving to everybody. We've
got a bunch of questions. You can keep asking them,

(43:18):
you know, some of the questions on this, and the
questions on other things, and and you know, we've got
some questions on Gaza and questions and other stuff. I'll
take I'll take questions on anything, I guess, so feel
free to jump in with any questions you might have.
We've got we've got plenty of time. I don't have
to I don't have to go to dinner for a while. Still.

(43:40):
I did the show a little earlier than usual because
I figured you guys all had dinners you had to
get to. I hope you do. I hope you all
have dinners you have to get to. So I appreciate that.
All right, let me be particularly thankful right now too,
you know, to some of my biggest uh some of
my biggest regular finance supporters. You know, Troy is here

(44:03):
with five hundred stallion dollars as he is every month
more than once usually, Plus he's a monthly contributor. So
thank you, thank you, Thank you, Troy. Really thankful to you.
And you're consistent, consistent support and generous and consistent support.
So thank you. Troy writes, I may be an Aussie,

(44:25):
but I love and try to live that original American spirit.
I am truly thankful for Iinrand and now Yuran who
encourages me to live that benevolent life. Thank you, Troy,
and absolutely and and here's the thing, and this is
what you know I keep emphasizing during this assault by

(44:46):
those who would want to turn America into a blood
and soil country, you could be an American and live anywhere.
America is a spirit. America's a sense of a set
of ideas that manifests itself in a certain spirit, in

(45:06):
a certain spirit for living, in a certain sense, that
everything is possible to you, that the world is open,
that it's yours for the taking, and life is to
be embraced and lived fully and and you know, and
and and and it's you are going to do that.
It's it's it's this idea that you are going to

(45:29):
step out there and and and and you know, uh,
engage with the world and be successful. It's that benevolence
all based on understanding where that comes from. It comes
from a particular political principles that make it possible to
live in such a world. And that's America. And if

(45:50):
you hold those ideas, even if America won't let you
in for a variety of reasons, or even if you've
chosen to stay where you are for a variety of reasons, family,
you know, business, you know, it could be a lot
of things where you stay where you are and don't
come to this country, particularly as it descends into into
what it is becoming. You are still an American, at

(46:12):
least in spirit, and in my mind, you're still an American.
And and and to me, that is what America is
really about. That's why I should be, you know, as
open as as possible, uh to new Americans coming here
and new people manifest that spirit coming here. Uh. And
you know, maybe we can still save this country and

(46:33):
still bring that all that spirit back, and and and
and and and bring all those people who believe in
this UH to this wonderful country, whether to visit or
to UH or to stay. Thank you, Troy, really really
really appreciate it. Let's see, Andrew, who God you know
is there every single show basically with a bunch of

(46:56):
questions and you know, a bunch of dollars. So really
really appreciate it, Andrews says. Rand was asked what's wrong
with giving God gratitude? She says something like, you mean,
if you do something wrong, it's your fault. But if
you do something good, you owe God. See what it
does to your self esteem, take credit for your achievements. Yeah,

(47:19):
I mean I think I always noticed this in sports, right.
I mean, that's a great it's a great thing for
her to say. And of course, I mean another problem
with it is you're giving gratitude to a non being,
somebody that doesn't exist. But think about think about you know,
all these athletes who are kicking a goal or catch

(47:41):
a touchdown pass or hit a home run and they
immediately thank God or Jesus or something like that. They
don't blame God. When they strike out. They don't blame God.
When they drop the pass, they don't blame God when
they missed the penalty cake. They don't blame God for
their failings that they take on themselves. But their success

(48:01):
is that somebody else did That's and it's not even
that they believe that their failures are like, oh it's
the devil, the devil did it. I mean, at least
then then neutral. They're not participating God, you know, but
they take on the failings themselves, which is destructive to
self esteem. When you're not willing to take on the achievement.

(48:21):
I mean, you should take on the failing when you fail,
but only if you're willing to also accept the achievement.
You have to be objective about yourself and your soul
and who you are and what you are. So absolutely
not taking credit for your achievement is destructive to your

(48:44):
self esteem. Self esteem ultimately comes from having values, achieving them,
recognizing the achievement. In a sense, it comes from a
little pat on the back that you give yourself, not
other people. Other people can't give your self esteem. Other
people recognizing your achievement won't do anything. You literally have

(49:06):
to take the act of saying I did that cool.
I'm capable, I'm competent, I can achieve stuff. I got
my values. This is great, Michael. Who might be probably,
I mean that might be is I'm, without any question,

(49:30):
the person who's done most super chats dollar wise and
maybe just quantity wise, just in terms the number of questions,
and anybody on my channel ever and maybe given super
chat out there in the world. Maybe you know, in
all of YouTube's history. I don't know. They have to

(49:51):
ask YouTube if they can produce such a list for us.
But Michael, thank you. You know you've been here for
a long time now, and you're there every day almost
and you ask a ton of questions, and you put
your money where where your your values are, and you
you you you fund this show. So thank you, thank you,

(50:12):
thank you. So let's see now that the one godz
is over, has anti Semitism reached its apex? Will things
start calming down? It's hard to know if Mega phenomena
is an arbitrary blip or the beginning of the end.
On the cheering on the cheery note, happy thanks on
that cheery note, every thing, saving every thanks, saving you. Michael,

(50:35):
I don't think it's going to go away on the right,
and I think it's going to be on the left.
It'll still be there, It'll just be buried a little
bit because they won't have an excuse. On the right.
It is very much now part of a culture that
views users controlling this country as manipulating politicians, uh as

(51:00):
controlling industry, whether it's Wall Street or the places I
mean for interest talks about this. Tucker costs and implies
it all the time. And it's also connected on the
right with Christianity, and that is not going to go away. Right.
This idea that and this is the idea I think
motivates Tucka in his Christian mode, and it's the idea

(51:22):
that motivated Christian anti Semitism from the beginning. And that
the idea is that Jews have been exposed to Jesus,
they witnessed his miracles, they've had an opportunity to read
the New Testament, and yet they reject him. They rejected

(51:47):
and that makes them particularly evil, right, And if you
go back to the beginning, they were there when he
was crucified and that didn't wake them up. They didn't
They refused to see the truth. The truth is right
starving them in the face, and they refuse it, and
that makes them bad, that makes them evil in some way,
and that really is the beginning of real anti Semitism,

(52:10):
that conception and in that sense that is still hardened
on the right, that is getting harder, more hard You're
seeing more and more pastors out there kind of saying
things like, yeah, Jews can still live here and peacefully,
but they shouldn't be able to hold public office, which
is you know, going back to old Christian, old Christian

(52:32):
views they you know, and they shouldn't be allowed to
be so successful. On the left, it's just not going
away because You's are successful. Israel's not going away. So
Israel will keep being there. It just won't have the
same energy behind it, because the particular concrete on television

(52:53):
that gets people out to the streets will disappear. That
is Gaza. But the philosophy of left and right is change.
The fundamental ideas have not changed, and those fundamental ideas
placed Jews in opposition to Maga, in an opposition to
the fall left. And therefore it's it's going to continue,

(53:13):
it's going to exist. Isoe would have to disappear for
it to be mitigated a little bit. But as long
as Israel's around, yeah, it's right there in their face,
then I'm gonna let go of it. Thank you, Thank you,
Michael Wes. Who Wes, who's also almost every day with

(53:35):
with with a sticker usually and and uh once in
a while a comment or question. Uh, one of the
one of the financially the biggest supporters of the show
on at least in super Chat. Thank you, Thank you, Wes. Uh.
Wes says, happy Thanksgiving. I'm thankful for you and your shows.
They help keep me informed andsane. It is my pleasure

(53:59):
and and I'm happy to know that I contribute to
sanity for many of you. And that is that is
part of it. That is that is meaningful and important
to me. It keeps me motivated. And look, doing these shows.
The reality is that doing these shows is part of

(54:19):
what makes me sane. It helps my sanity because otherwise
I just be yelling at myself inside my head. This
way I can yell into a microphone and you respond,
and that that makes that makes it so much easier
to cope with the insanity that is the world in
which we live. Being alone inside your own head makes

(54:41):
it much harder having in a sense of community, having
somebody you can talk to about it, Having somebody who
shares your perspective, uh, shares your perspective and is willing
to listen and often agrees. That is unbelievable, unbelievably valuable.

(55:01):
And you know, unbelievably valuable. Uh and uh, So you
guys make it. Make me, help me stay safe, help
help me not get you know, uh down the rabbit
hole of of how depressed this how depressing the global

(55:25):
situation is. So thank you all of you for listening,
for participating in asking questions, for being in the chat,
for for listening on the podcast, listen after fact, making comments,
whatever it is that you do again, you know, you
make this show possible. But also you make my sanity possible.
If I didn't have an audience. You know, I don't

(55:47):
know what I do yelling. You know, what's that the Tempest?
The Tempest Shakespeare play where where the lead character is
yelling into the storm right nobody can hear you. There's
a storm going on. You guys are hearing me. That's

(56:08):
an immense value to me, So thank you. Molten Splendor.
Can't get over how much I love that name. I
own a world renowned glass website. L O E t
z loes is considered a valuable, accurate and reliable resource.
Access is free and donations encouraged. While a thank you

(56:33):
for my time and research answering emails is suggested. Even
written generosity is lacking ideas. Why? All right, let me
see if I can understand the question, because it is
not very clear. It's not very clear. I own a

(56:57):
world renowned glass website loads. What's loads is considered a valuable,
accurate Oh, this website considered a valuable, accurate and reliable resource.
Access is free and donation encouraged. Well, I thank you
for my time in research answering emails is suggested. Even
written generosity is lacking ideas. What I mean? I'm curious

(57:20):
where your customers are. Predominantly are the Americans Europeans where
they're from? But I think we live in a We
live in a this is a downer, but we live
in a very in a culture that takes stuff for granted.
It takes suff for granted all over the place. You know,

(57:44):
we've become accustomed to producers producing and then us throwing
them in jail and not really caring about it or producing, producing,
and then riling about how evil they are and how
they're destroying our youth and they're destroying everybody else and
everything else and uh and and and and you know,

(58:07):
the opposite of gratitude hate hate hate towards those who
produce well. Also become accustomed to getting stuff for free.
I mean, this is part of the value of all
you guys on Patreon and the super chat and everywhere else,
is this is free. You could just listen and and
and not contribute at all, right.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
And.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
So there, you know, there's we've just become used to
just having values thrown at us. This is kind of
the the phenomena of wealth and success. Being wealthy a culture.
Wealthy in terms of culture makes it possible. So one
of the things I value about you guys is most
of you, uh, you know, recognize the fact that you're

(58:54):
getting a value and a trade is and want to
trade value for value. You want to contribute because you're
getting some thing. And I think a lot of people
out there don't. Their sense of justice involves criticizing people
when they're wrong, criticizing people for bad stuff they do.

(59:17):
But there's no symmetry and the more important part of justice,
which is which is thanking people for the good that
they do, recognizing the value, recognizing the value they're providing
your own life, recognizing the good, the productive, the good

(59:38):
things that they do. With a simple thank you, sometimes
just a simple thank you that is out. You know,
we live in a cynical world where people just just
accept stuff and they have no concept of justice. And
this is the thing. It's all about justice. And since

(59:59):
in our culture, justice is only about the negative, overwhelmingly
about the negative, blame, ridicule, accusation, and what we need
to teach people and it's crucial to their own self esteem.
And this is my point. You need to be just.
You need to know that you're just. To know that
you're just, you need to not only go after people

(01:00:23):
who have wronged you, but much more important, much much, much,
much much more important. You need to go find the
people who've contributed to your life and thank them and
thank them. And yeah, simple thank you when you provide

(01:00:45):
an answer to somebody or in an email or a
chat or in whatever, it is, just a simple thank
you is so appreciated, it's so valuable. It's to the
other person, but to you yourself, so Malden Spendler, I
think it's just a sign of a decaying culture, a
culture that's lost a sense of what justice actually means

(01:01:10):
and the importance of justice for your soul. Objectivists believe.
Objectivism believes that you make your own soul. You build
your own soul, and the way you make your own
soul is through acts like acts of justice. It's living
by your values, and one of those is justice. So

(01:01:31):
to be just is to recognize the values people provide
to you at the very least, to say thank you, yeah,
and and and so. You know, somebody says it's also
hard to have that thankful personality when you feel like

(01:01:53):
people owe you stuff. Yes, and we live in a
in an altruistic society generally is a society where everybody
thinks you owe them. You owe them, Mark another fifty
dollars super Chat, Thank you, thanks for the run book show,
Happy Thanksgiving. Thank you, Mark, really appreciate that. Thank you. Guys.

(01:02:14):
Let's see, we'll go back to the questions. Well, let
me see, there's a bunch of stickers. I saw a lot, Margaret,
thank you for the sticker. Paul Feris, thank you for
this sticker. Let's see, yes this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Paul do.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
There was Roland. Thank you, Huntsman, thank you, Dallene, thank you,
laid back pedal pusher, thank you. I think I've cut everybody.
I think I cut everybody. Yes, all right, Yula, ask
what is the difference between a Palestinian and the other

(01:02:53):
Arabs in the Middle East? Why do some advocate a
Palestinian state instead of suggesting that Gaza live in one
of the other gardens, live in one of the other
Islami countries. I mean, there are a couple of things.
One is people don't want to move. They many gardens,
can link their home to many, many, many, many generations

(01:03:14):
of people who've lived there. They're connected to the place.
They like the place, I guess, and they don't want
to move. Why should they move? So telling people you
share the same ethnic background as these other countries, go
live over there, give up your home is not a
particularly compelling thing to say. But it is true that

(01:03:37):
many Palestinians, actually, you know, they don't have roots in
the place. Although it's not about how deep the roots are.
It's just the fact that you live somewhere and you
might want to stay there. But it is true that
Palestinian nationalism, the idea of a Palestinian nation separate from

(01:03:59):
other Arab nations and that should have its own state,
is a new phenomena. It's probably a phenomena from the
really from the nineteen sixties. As a popular phenomenon when
Isel was founded, The dominant view among Arabs and in
the decades afterwards, even in the fifties, even in the
sixties was pan Arabism. You know, one big Arab state.

(01:04:24):
Now they'd want to have Israel as part of it,
because what the hell, what the Jew's doing here. It's
kind of an iore to the dominance of the Middle East,
the Arabs dominant of mi in the least. You know,
why are the Jews there? Why are the Jews dominating
that particular place. So they're offended by that. But there

(01:04:48):
was pan Arabism. Islam is doesn't believe in states. Islam
is not statist. Islam believes in khalifas in an empire
that rules the entire world. Now, in Islamic history, every
califight has always broken down into states. Every empire is
ultimately been fragmented into states. And because the empires are

(01:05:13):
too big to manage, and religion is not a good
basis for a large state. But the reality is the
ideal for them is one state ruling over the whole world.
It's a global state. So yeah, it's a good question.
But in the nineteen sixties, during the heyday of the
PLO sixties seventies, eighties, Arab nationalism rose up, secular Arab

(01:05:38):
nationalism and came to dominate the Palestinian cause. The Palestinians
are Arabs, but Arabs who lived in this area called Palestine,
and they thought they want their own state. They don't
want to share it with Jews. Jews came there, the
quote colonizers, so you know, they want a state. Nationalism

(01:05:59):
came to that world relatively late. And again all of
this was ruled by the Ottoman Empire. There were never
states in this area before states, you know, states like
Syria and Jordan and Iraq. All modern inventions post World

(01:06:19):
War One, modern inventions really inventions of the fun powers,
who the French of the British, who defeated the Ottoman Empire,
and at some point they figured why not also Palestinian.
There's no such thing as a Jordanian really in history,
there's no such thing as Syrian. In history, Syria was

(01:06:39):
a province of the Romans. It was the base from
which the initial Islamic Empire was ruled from before it
was Bagdad. This was under the Umayads, the first dynasty
to rule over Islam, but it wasn't a state in
any kind of real ways. So anyway, uh, Lourie, thank

(01:07:03):
you for the show today. Thank you Lowie, think appreciate it.
Appreciate the support. Michael. When expressing your thank you thanks
to someone for what he means to you, remember to
be as specific as you can about what he did
and how it affected you. Thank you, Michael. It is
that's great advice. That is great advice because otherwise it's floating.

(01:07:27):
You want to be concrete. You want to make it personal,
and to make it personal, you want to make it concrete,
and it's more meaningful that way, and it's it doesn't
sound like a bow mite. Jennifer Oops, what did I do?
Jennifer Lucille Ball fought against racism. She once pulled her

(01:07:50):
whole entourage out of a Southern hotel because they didn't
want to a blackmaid there. Thank you for everything you're on.
I'm so glad I met you nine years ago. Thank you, Jennifer.
And I'm glad you met me nine years ago as well.
And yeah, I mean, I think Lucille Ball's hysterical, funny
and a tough lady who fought to have a career, fought,

(01:08:15):
you know, because she became a star, but fought to
kind of control the productive, the production process, even though
she was a woman and often relegated to kind of
a sick in class. And I didn't know she fought
against racism, but this doesn't surprise me. She was a
woman of principle. Thank you, Thank you, Jennifer. Jeffrey Jeffy says,

(01:08:38):
left my phone in an uber a couple of days ago,
just got a new one. Please recap last seventy two hours.
I don't want to miss a thing. Yeah, everything Trump
does sucks, and it's pathetic incompetence and anti American. And
yet in spite of all of that, you you should

(01:09:02):
go for that second star and live the best life
that you can and embrace the good in the world
and be thankful for living in this amazing country that
will probably be able to even survive Trump, which is
quite an achievement. I think that sum raises the last
seventy two hours. Thank you, Jeffrey, and again congratulations for

(01:09:26):
renewing the star. All right, all right, this is a
question that is a holdover from yesterday, came in late yesterday.
If a Democratic president is elected in twenty twenty eight,
should they engage in law fe to try to imprison
Trump for everything he did? Or should they instead try

(01:09:46):
to be a unifying figure that helds in u in America?
I mean, god, I don't. I mean, there's a sense
in which you want them to be a unifying figure,
but what does it mean to be a unified figure.
To be unified, you have to unify around values. You
have to unify around ideas, you have to unify around content.

(01:10:07):
It's useless, useless to say, let's unite around what What's
what's the unity that's embraced here? And if you don't
want to be a nationalist, it can't be blood and
soil and country because we're Americans. It has to be
about something. What are we going to unite around? So
and that's a problem for Democrat. So I don't know

(01:10:28):
how the Democrat can unite us because what values are
they going to unite us around? What is it going
to be And of course it could very well be
that going after the corruption of the Trump administration is
necessary for unity, because it's necessary for justice. So I
don't call it law fair. Law fair suggests that it's
it's wrong to do. I would call it justice. And

(01:10:51):
we need to re somehow, And I don't know how
to do this because it's it's there's so much entangled here.
There is we have to get back to the idea
of the rule of law, and men are not above
the law. Politicians, presidents, nobody's above the law, and that

(01:11:15):
you know, people should be should suffer the consequence of
their actions, and if they do something criminal, if they
literally actually violate the law, they should reprosecute it for it.
I don't believe that that's going to happen anytime soon,
because you need a lot of colorage and a real
conception of what America is and a real conception of
justice to do it. But that's what I'd like to do,

(01:11:38):
So I'd like to see both unity and justice. Andrew,
I'm pro participation trophies in youth sports, so long as
trophies for winning a bigger better than those for the losers.
Trying to gain values is an achievement of will, and
you deserve self esteem for thoughts. I mean, I don't know, trophies,

(01:12:00):
ridiculous ribbons, maybe as long as there's a big difference
between a winner and everybody else. So I think you're right.
Participation is important, and just trying sometimes is enough for
self esteem, but recognizing the skill, the effort that winning

(01:12:21):
requires is really important. So the difference has to be substantial.
And we probably have too many trophies. Again, self esteem
comes from within, not from without, And once you realize
it comes from within, how many trophies you have becomes
less important. What's more important is you being able to

(01:12:41):
recognize your own achievements. Robert Happy, thanksgiving everyone. In Objectivism,
we might not discuss gratitude as a separate virtue, but
it's there in the fiction, the concept of productivity, trade,
just as benevolence and more. Well, it's definitely a big
part of justice. I mean, if you read if you
read Leonard Peacock's Objectivism and the Philosophy of Iron rand Opah,

(01:13:08):
the section on justice is dominated by in a sense,
gratitude in recognition of the good rather than just recognition.
You know, penalizing the evil or bad. So it's definitely, definitely,
definitely in opah. So it's it's but it should be

(01:13:30):
emphasized more. Diepa with Diego, Happy Thanksgiving, everybody, Happy Thanksgiving, Diego, Simon, thanks,
thank you to youran, Thank you, Simon, really appreciate it.
Gary so thankful, Yuran so thankful. Your hon is here
to spare me from drudging through the daily news to

(01:13:51):
stay aware of current events. I'm glad you find it
helpful and that it saves you that drudgery, because it
really is. It's not play, Jason. I just like being around.
I'm in many places. I'm thankful to have residency in
three countries. But here on this show, in some is

(01:14:12):
some structure. Shoot us a few Thanksgiving movies to check out.
Happy holidays, ooh, Thanksgiving movies. Let's let's let's look this
up on Google and then I can I can share
from the list Thanksgiving movies. All right, uh to aren't

(01:14:34):
they usually thinks giving you movies? I give you one Shenandoah.
Shenando is a good movie for that sense. Yeah, ten
best Thanksgiving movies. Let's see what they come up with, planes, trains,
and automobiles, super funny, super funny. I don't know what. Ah,
he's trying to get back to Thanksgiving dinner, to Thanksgiving
with the family, and he's struggling. It's it's from the

(01:14:56):
days where American comedies were actually funny. I don't know
about that, Charlie Brown, Thanksgiving. Don't know Rocky. There's a
Thanksgiving seen in the original Rocky, and it's not exactly
full of family fun and fuzzies. But yeah, Rocky is
a good movie, so worth watching. Yeah, Rocky's fun, Rocky's fun.

(01:15:17):
Let's see what else do we have? Yeah? No, I
don't know. Center a Woman, Center of a Woman is
that I did a I did a thing. I did
a review of Center the Woman on here. Yeah. Oh,

(01:15:39):
over Thanksgiving dinner, he tells him how he got blind,
how he was blinded. That's right, So there is a
Thanksgiving dinner there, So a Center a Woman I think,
I guess is considered the Thanksgiving movie.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
I still come back to to Shenandoah for the for
the Let's see what else do we have? All right,
let's see what this What this list has? Uh has
Rockies playing trains and automobiles again, sent of a Woman again, Um,

(01:16:13):
knives out. That's a fun movie, right. I mean, they're
not a lot of Thanksgiving movies. More Christmas movies. I
guess seventy seven zero best Thanksgiving movies seventy seventy God,
the gold Rush, Charlie Chaplin, love the gold Rush. I
love Charlie Chaplin movies. Uh so you don't try that

(01:16:36):
out that that that that the gold Rush. I'm just screening. Uh,
Hannah and her Sisties. That's that's. Uh, that's Woody Allen
from the from the nineteen seventies, uh, eighties in ten
eighty six, eighty six, so eighties. Let's see. You don't

(01:16:57):
like that one. Uh uh yeah, I'm trying to see movies.
I like. Send of a Woman makes this list as well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Uh, I don't know that, don't know. Uh eh, God,
a lot of.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
These movies are mediocre. Butt You've Got Mail. You've Got
Mail is based on my favorite Christmas movie, which is, Yeah,
a very young Jimmy Stewart is in that movie. God,

(01:17:38):
somebody will remind me of the Ernst Lubach movie that
You've Got Mail is based on, which is I think
my favorite Christmas movie. And You're gonna you're gonna tell
me what the what the name of that movie is,
because somebody has to know out there is your run Mosade? Definitely,
I mean, is there any question? Mm hm, definitely Mossade.

(01:18:04):
Let's see, somebody asked that in the chat. I don't
know why we're talking about Christmas Thanksgiving movies. Doesn't look
like there's a lot of Thanksgiving movies. I mean I
just went down the list of seventy movies and yeah, no,
not much, not much. The number one Thanksgiving movie is

(01:18:25):
gold Rush, according to this list, The gold Rush nineteen
twenty five by Charlie Chaplin recommend it shop around the Corner.
I knew it would come to me, all right, Jimmy Stewart,
Chop around the corner. It's my favorite Christmas movie. It's
just a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful movie. So Ernst Lubich Chopper
around the corner, Jimmy Stewart, and and I forget the

(01:18:49):
actress's name, but Ernst Lubag is the Ernst Lubich is
the director. Alright, let's see, Okay, we answered that, all right,
laid back Petapusha. Thankful for Jennifer because she sees me here,

(01:19:15):
even though I'm usually too slow to respond. Here you go,
Jennifer mc because I'm truly thankful for your visit in Modena.
Me too. That was fun. It was one of the
coolest days of my life. I appreciate that, Milko. I

(01:19:36):
really enjoyed it. That was a lot of fun. And
we need to connect about doing something in Italy in
March or April. So if you're still interested in doing
an event somewhere in Italy in marcho April, let me know.
I've got I now have dates when I'm going to
be in Europe and could make it out there alternatively

(01:19:57):
in the summer, but those March of April are going
to be are going to be good sceneric. Thank you,
Jon for bringing the ideas of objectivesm to life. I
appreciate that. Okay, Raymond, he had Okay, it's a three
part question. My sources and news articles which often don't
cite stats or research studies which I have no idea

(01:20:20):
how to validate, or just casual arguments. Thus I feel
impotent evaluating medical studies on news like the Uga genocide,
CIA more trustworthy than the CCP. But I'm not a
satellite analyst. How do you read a study, no, if
you can trust it? Also, how do you decide in

(01:20:41):
domains you aren't expert in whether it's to take doctor's advice.
I mean a number of things. One is, like doctors,
you want second and sometimes third or fourth opinions. You
want to get a flavor of what's out there, what
people are thinking, So you don't just follow one doctor.

(01:21:02):
You want to follow more than one doctor, and you
want to get a bunch of different opinions, and then
you at the end have to judge it based on
whether it makes sense given your knowledge of your body
and your knowledge of the issues. You can I mean,
the beauty today is you can do a lot of
research online. You can read stuff even if you don't know.
You can at least get a sense of what's going

(01:21:22):
on so that you can make a more educated assessment
of the different recommendations you're getting from doctors. It's hard
to evaluate studies. Most people don't know what they're doing.
They really, really really don't, and they screw it up
because statistics is hard. So one of the things to
do is to find resources, find people who seem to

(01:21:45):
approach these studies objectively. I don't know p dot T.
I think it is quite good his analysis of statistics
and wife example, it's really difficult, almost impossible to do
a good study on nutrition. Uh. The fact that he
goes through this in his book at least, and he

(01:22:06):
goes through sometimes on his podcast on the extent to
which these studies are hard because because because of designing
them and then how you interpret the statistics suggest to
me that he's doing the work and he's thinking about it,
and the you know, the the reality is that you

(01:22:32):
need to find people like that, people who actually do
the work. There are a lot of Charlatans out there
who sell you a story that is not backed by
scientific evidence. Indeed, I think I think most of the
people doing nutrition today or who claim absolute knowledge and

(01:22:52):
nutrition are Charlatans who don't know what they're talking about,
who don't have the statistical acumenym to actually review the studies,
or who are just lying to you. Many of them
are just ignorant, but some of them are lying. And
you know, so if somebody is making a strong claim

(01:23:13):
about something, they need to have strong evidence for that claim,
and you know that's hard, and they need to show
their work, and most of these people don't. So I
want to see people who show their work and reference
to studies and and tell you what their approaches to statistics.

(01:23:34):
And now I happen to know statistics some because I
used to do statistical stuff. I've got a number like
six published papers and academic journals to do statistics K
And so I know something about statistics. And most studies

(01:23:55):
can't be replicated. I mean, you know, it's hard. So
you got to find people who who approach the data
objectively and approached the results objectively. And I think to
my number of doctors for example, on YouTube that seemed
to do that. They show you the studies, they look
at the stats, they show you what's going on. They
mentioned if the study contradicts other studies. They mentioned the

(01:24:18):
fact that studies some studies are bad, so other studies
are good. I mean, I remember when Ivan Mechtin was
a thing right during COVID, and Scott Alexander did this.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Long, long, long, long.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
Essay analyzing every study that was done and giving, you know,
and coming to a conclusion about Evamictin and then he
was challenged by a bunch of people. So a year
later or something, he did a follow on where he
reviewed all the new studies about evermictin. It came to
the same conclusion that don't take it for COVID. But

(01:24:51):
that kind of detailed analysis was it blew me away.
I mean it was really impressive, and I think he
was right or based on kind of his analysis of
the difference, he literally threw up the study. So if
you have cancer and you think about, Okay, who should
I listen to? What kind of treatment should I get?

(01:25:11):
Should I just go on a paleo you know, on
on a kido diet and that also of it. You know,
find doctors who know the literature, who willing to share
their analysis with you and actually actually show you the
work and why they hold the view that they view,

(01:25:35):
and ask them questions. If you've heard about I don't
know now it's I guess the latest greatest treatment for cancers.
I've emercican, so asked Tim about it. You know, don't
be shy if you if you think there's any validity
to it. I happened to nothink there's any validity to
do it, So I'm not gonna even ask. But if
you if you thought that there was because you watched

(01:25:57):
what's his name that that brilliant, brilliant science by the
name of mel Brook, mel Gibson, mel Gibson. Yeah, I
mean anybody who writes doctors of idiots as Nate just
did idiots, I mean, that is an idiotic, stupid things
to say. It shows unbelievable, unimaginable ignorance of doctors. And

(01:26:24):
you know you, I hope you don't need them, because
you're going to need them some point in your life
and having that attitude is not going to help you,
not going to help you at all. And it's exactly that.
I'm incredibly grateful for all the amazing, great doctors that
exist out there. General practitioners are idiots. Another stupid, ignorant

(01:26:48):
generalization that is based on not a nothing, based on
a cult that worships its sudden view of nutrition, I
guess and diet and stuff. But it's it's just stupid.
I know so many great general practitioners. It's just stupid,
you know, to have these kind of generalizations. All right, Raymond,

(01:27:12):
I'm a second generation Chinese immigrant to Canada. It is
common for my relatives like my dad to deny the
Uga genocide. Oops. They argue it doesn't exist is a
Western media conspiracy, and most journalists have gone or you
aren't a satellite expert, so you don't know. I know

(01:27:40):
it about as certainly as World War Two. I read it.
I'm not I'm not going to Normandy. But at the
historical event cites, how can I know? Now? I mean
world War two you know more than you do the
uga and and you should have more certainty around because
there's just more used to verify it. And the more

(01:28:01):
people who verified and the people who lived through it
that can that are witnesses that you could you could
fly and interview them if you wanted to, if you
if you weren't so sure, and uh, you know, uh,
the the uh uh The thing with the ugas is

(01:28:21):
you would really have to do a lot of research
to get to the level of certainty is world War two.
So you have to recognize that there's someone certainly around it.
What do they mean exactly by genocide? What is actually
going on? Are they re education camps? Are they killing them?
That is, are they literally wiping them out like the
Nazis did in World War Two? That I don't know.

(01:28:42):
I have a highest level of confidence that they're sending
into re education camps and and uh, they're imprisoning a
lot of people, and that that is going on. Whether
you consider that genocide or not, I think genocide is
an overused, overused, overused statement. But look, it's a it's

(01:29:03):
a question of research. You could find Chinese dissidents who
who are Ugas, who live in the United States, and
you could could go and get first hand accounts from them. Uh.
And so all the evidence suggests that something really bad
is going on with the Ugas. Whether it's out and
out genocide, the eradication of a people, I don't know,

(01:29:26):
but I know that something really bad is going on,
and it is given the history of terrorism on behalf
of the Ugas, I'm not surprised that China's really clammed
down on them and trying to trying to re educate
them and trying to get them away from religion. The
Chinese are very afraid of Islamism and and they're trying

(01:29:46):
to reorient towards uh, you know, towards I don't know,
secular communism or whatever whatever their ideology happens to be
at the moment. But it's hot. You have to do
a lot of research, read first hand accounts, and then
you then you have to be honest with yourself about
the degree to which you are confident in something. Here's
what Nate writes, right, because this is important. I think

(01:30:09):
if the world is so irrational, like Jan says, what
are the odds science and medicine use pop epistemology. Well,
I mean, here's the reality. Reality is that you live
in a world in which every single day people are
producing things based on new knowledge that are producing things
that work and that function that don't break down immediately.

(01:30:34):
People are constantly pushing the envelope on knowledge, on technology,
on innovation, on new things. If the world is irrationalist
you pretend to claim that I claim, then none of
that would happen. Silicon Valley couldn't exist, you know, science
breakthrough that are happening all the time, we're learning new
scientific facts all the time couldn't exist because scientists couldn't

(01:30:57):
do their job. Indeed, if people were that irrational, how
is it that we can drive on the highways at
eighty miles an hour and have so few accidents. I mean,
you'd think that they be stupid enough to try to
cut each other off and cause mass casualty events on
a regular basis. You know, how do people do anything?
So you're misinterpreting the way I think about the way

(01:31:21):
the world is irrational and the degree to which people
are compop bandalized. But I am incredibly thankful to those
people out there who are using their minds creating great products, innovating,
building new stuff, and using their mind effectively in order
to do that. Some of them are doctors, some of

(01:31:43):
them are scientists, some of them are technologists. You know,
next native is going to tell me that man never
landed on the moon, because how could you land on
the moon. The culture is so irrational they could never
do that kind of technology and actually get people in
the moon. And my guess is that stalling doesn't exist,
and neither of there's what are those rockets that land
back and are caught, you know, the whole, the whole,

(01:32:06):
the whole, uh, you know, elon musk thing. So I
don't know what you know, I don't know what anybody's
talking about. So the idea that the world's irrational, we
can't trust scientists, we can't trust doctors, we can't trust technologists,
we can't trust entrepreneurs, we can't trust innovators or inventors

(01:32:30):
or anybody. I mean, because the world's irrational. I mean,
that's just dumb. It's just dumb. You should rethink your
perception of the world. If you buy, if you if
you if you buy into that life expectancies doubled last

(01:32:51):
hundred years. Somebody is responsible for that. You know. Uh,
treatment of cancers get better every day. I mean, there's
so many things of science and and medicine are doing. Uh.
And and there's some excellent, excellent you know, what do
you call it? What do you call it? General physicians

(01:33:14):
out there? Uh, family doctors, however you want to call
it generalists, some excellent ones. You know you probably have
to pay more to get access to them, but they're
out there. So you know, these generalizations are silly, just silly.
You got you got to stop them. And again, look around,
Smell the roses, Look at the beautiful world in which

(01:33:35):
we live. Be thankful, thankful all the amazing stuff that
we have. Don't gloss over it because I don't know.
You've read something that you become excited about. You at
iron Rand, or you had some doctor's website that tells
you he has the truth, that nobody else does. Beware,

(01:33:58):
think you your mind and be thankful, Go out, smell
the roses, and then come back in and eat a
big meal. Happy Thanksgiving everybody. I will see you guys tomorrow.
And yeah, thank you. Thank you for being here, thank
you for putting the show, thank you for giving me feedback,
thank you for making it interesting for me. Thank you.

(01:34:23):
Bye everybody,

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