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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He's ever been left waiting by the phone.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's the Fred Show. Hey, Angela, good morning, Welcome to
the show. How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Oh hey, I'm good being Herry.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey? We're doing okay, it's waiting by the phone. So
what we're trying to figure out is why you may
have been ghosted by this guy that you met on Hinge.
So tell us about Christian that's his name. You met
on Hinge and then what happens.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah, my friends and I are calling him Christian Gray
by the way, you know, like because he's being so
like hardcore.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
About this anyways, really weird.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah, like you know the fifty Shades is great guy,
Christian Gray. Anyway. Okay, So we met on Hinge and
we went out twice, and during our second date we
were like having a really good time. We were even
planning our third date. But then he just never called
and it was it was just really bizarre because we
(00:56):
had such a good time, you know, and then just nothing.
So I'm very confused.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Hu, very weird.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So, I mean, we don't often hear about a third
date ghosting. I mean we have, but usually it's you know,
you go out one time and then someone does some
weird and then you never hear from him again. But
in this case, you guys, I mean, thanks for sort
of progressing to the point where you're gonna go out
three times. That's getting I don't know, semi serious. I
mean it means you really like somebody, I guess, so
you would expect to hear from them again. You didn't
(01:26):
hear from him again, and it's bugging you and you
want to know why.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah. Well, let's call this guy just a second. We'll
see if we can get Christian on the phone, and
you'll be on the phone too. We'll ask some questions
at some point. You're welcome to jump in after we
get you some info. And the hope here is always
that we can straighten things out and then set you
guys up on another date and pay for that. Sound good, Yeah,
that sounds great. We're gonna find out what's going on
in Part two of Waiting by the Phone is next
(01:51):
two minutes away after be oh v frend Show. Hey Angela,
all right, welcome back. Let's call Christian just to recap
you guys met on the dating app Pinge and he
went out twice. On the second date you were even
planning the third date. So we're looking into the future here.
Except after the second date, you never heard from this
man again. He never called you, he never texted, he
has it responded to you. He's ghosting and you want
(02:13):
to know why.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, it's really weird. I would love some clarity.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Okay, fine, well let's call him right now. Good luck, Angela,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Hi is his Christian? Oh yeah, this is see Hey Christian.
Good morning. My name is Fred. I'm calling from the
Fred Show, that morning radio show. The whole crew is here,
and I have to tell you that we are on
the radio right now, and I would need your permission
to continue. Is it okay if we chat for just
a couple of seconds, you can hang up anytime of course. Cool. Yeah, Well,
thank you, thank you very much. We're calling on behalf
(02:54):
of a woman who reached out to us. Her name
is Angela. Says that you guys met on the dating
app Pinge, and he went out a couple of times.
You recall this woman, Oh.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, I know her.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Well, okay, so it was okay. She told us that
you guys have met and went out twice, and we're
talking about a third date and then you disappeared? Is
that true? I mean, what are you avoiding her? What happened?
What's your side of the story.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, basically what happened was it went really well. I
I kind of, you know, like from the get knew
that there was something there, something special, and you know,
after a couple of dates, I said, well, you know,
I don't need to look any further. I think I
found a good one. So basically after that second date,
you know, we had a little chat and I said, hey,
(03:38):
guess what you know you mean something, So I'm deleting
all my apps and i'd like you to do the same,
you know, okay, And then at that point she said no.
I was like, well what does that mean? Then, like,
so this isn't working because it seems like we're really
hitting it off and we're having a good time. So
either you like me or you don't. And she was like, oh,
(03:58):
I don't feel comfortable leaving, as you know, it's just
two dates. And I'm like, uh, just two really great dates,
So delete the apps if you liked me. And then
you know, she just really hurt me. So I was
just like, okay, well I don't need to reach out
to her. Anymore intentions clear?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Oh this this may surprise people, but I don't really
have a problem with what you were attempting to do.
I realized that you're going to get some resistance from
some people, but like, if you like, let me bring
I forgot too mention of the angelist here. I want
to bring Angela and so she can tell her side
at the story here, Angela Christian. You guys know each other?
Is it? I always forget that the other person's here
on absent minded? But is it true that you liked
(04:37):
him enough for another date but you you were not
yet ready to delete the app? Is that because you
still wanted to keep your options open or was that more?
Was that more that you wanted him to think.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
That I just didn't want to shut the door on
any other possibilities just because it's only been two dates.
I'm not saying I don't like him. I do, but
I just think it's a little fast, you know, like
we're not even exclusive yet, and I just I couldn't
(05:11):
make that commitment yet.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Huh. Okay, Well, I don't know about you guys who
have been on the apps before. I know, Kaylen, you
know you've gone on and off or whatever. But like,
it's not easy to get to the point where you're
going on a third date with somebody. And it's also
not necessarily just because someone's hot and you manage with
them and you go out on one day with them,
or that you chat with them, it doesn't mean that
you're going to have in person chemistry. In fact, it
(05:35):
almost there's no guarantee of that. So I feel like
when all those things come together, it's like, I don't know,
why not just see where this goes? As opposed to
me continuing to invest in you knowing that you're also
going out with that, you're also actively searching for other people.
I mean, I can see where Christian's coming from here.
He's like, I like you a lot, I don't want
to play this game anymore. And then you just said,
(05:56):
well no, I mean, so what is it about him that, yeah,
you can pausey apps for a week or two just
to see where things go.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I hear what you're saying. Honestly, I think I'm I mean,
if I'm being honest, I'm just a little afraid of
commitment right now. Like I'm just not entirely sure I
want to be with one person.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
How would how would you react to, Kailin if a guy,
after two admittedly great dates and you're talking about a third,
was like, hey, can we can we jump off these
apps for a minute and see where this goes? How
would you react to that?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
If I'm being honest, I would think it's a little soon,
and I would be a little bit nervous. Not saying
this about you, but I would be a little bit nervous.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I can.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
I mean, that's just my honest answer.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I'm sorry, dude, I don't know. It's a little fast
for me. I mean, Christian, I guess for me, and
maybe you're of the same mindset. But I've been on
these things for a long time and I know what
I'm guilty of. I'm guilty of. I mean, the apps
are designed this way. It's like you meet someone who's great,
but yet you're you're drawn. When you're on them, You're
in your mind, You're like, but I'm gonna keep checking
them because what if? What if somebody better comes along?
(06:59):
And I think before long, you're only focused on what's
new as opposed to what's there, and so I feel
like it's just you're just continually drawn back to it.
And I guess it's hard to feel like someone's investing
in you when you know that they're also checking that
thing a couple times a day to see. But that's dating.
Who's next? You know, it's dating. It's a form of dating, right,
(07:19):
That's how I'm at my husband.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
But I didn't want that, you know, to get off
the apps until I knew we were like official.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, I mean, I look, I see both sides, and
I've done it both ways. But I also think I
don't know. How hard is it to say I don't know?
By the way, another thing that is positive that's come
out of this is that I don't know that Christian,
did you realize that she didn't want to be in
an exclusive relationship because I don't know that that was implied.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
No, she didn't make that at all. I mean, if
you want to be you know, I want to be monogamous.
So that's something I guess we didn't get to cover
in the first two days.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So you're dating with intention to be monogamous. She's dating
with intention to keep her options open. There's nothing wrong
with either one of those things, but that is not
you guys are not on the same page about that,
Like there are plenty of people in the dating apps
that want to keep they just want to see what's
out there, and and then there are people like you
that like they want to be in a relationship. And
I think it sounds like you two are not aligned
on that, and that was going to be a problem anyway.
(08:15):
So I guess I don't have a problem with the
conversation because I mean the ghosting maybe, but the conversation, like,
I don't know, he wants one thing, you want someone else,
So it's probably not going to be a match anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, I mean I think I was created right. It's
like you download the app, find a person, so you
can delete the app.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, I don't know. I guess if you really like somebody,
it's like I'd love to get I'd love to like
focus on this and not necessarily have to deal with
the riff raft. But hey, look, you guys are very
clearly looking for different things, and so I guess it's
not a match. I'll ask, but Christian, would you would
you give her another shot? Would you go out with
her again?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I mean, I think the writings on the wall, as
they say, it's just not a fit, Like I want
someone who wants to fully come and try and you know,
be vulnerable, and if you got one fit out the
door the whole time, then you're not doing that.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So no, but look, I mean she did, in fairness,
even though she wants to quote unquote keep her options open,
she did wonder about you enough to call us and
do all this. So I mean she obviously liked you. Yeah,
and you never know what happens on the line.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
That's why I think it's a little too early to
call it.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
But hey, what do I know?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah? So, but no, that's on day one. Okay, that's right.
Stand your ground, stand on business, that's right, Stand on business,
that's right. Key, I mean what about it? Have you
ever been on the dating amps? Ski?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Key?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
No, no, No. If you're looking to be intentional and
be with one person, then that's your prerogative. She he is,
and she's looking right now to sort of maybe not
yet make that discrimination also her prerogative. Neither one of
them are wrong. They're just looking for two different things.
And look, if I want a girlfriend and I meet
somebody who's amazing and stands out well above all the rest,
(09:55):
that I might put more emphasis on trying to make
that work if if I'm looking for a relationship and
if she is too, then she might be open to that.
But yet they're not looking at the same thing.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
So how I would say that Fred, though, is Hey,
just so you know, you could do whatever you want.
I'm really into you, and I'm going to delete my
app and then you let them respond and it's not
like controlling, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
No, I think that makes a lot of sense. I
think that makes a lot of sense. But I can
see the insecurity of knowing that you've got somebody great
and they're like, no, I want to keep going on
other dates. It's like, well that doesn't Yeah, we're not
building anything then, but that she doesn't want to so
it's all good. So nobody's really in the wrong, but
it's not going to work out. Guys, thank you so
much for your time. Best of looks at both of you.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Thanks you appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Catlet's up next with the Entertainment Report and eight hundred
and fifty bucks for our pop culture expert. Shelby is Shelley.
If you beat her, that money as yours will play. Next,
it's The Fred Show.
He's ever been left waiting by the phone.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's the Fred Show. Hey, Angela, good morning, Welcome to
the show. How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Oh hey, I'm good being Herry.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey? We're doing okay, it's waiting by the phone. So
what we're trying to figure out is why you may
have been ghosted by this guy that you met on Hinge.
So tell us about Christian that's his name. You met
on Hinge and then what happens.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah, my friends and I are calling him Christian Gray
by the way, you know, like because he's being so
like hardcore.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
About this anyways, really weird.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah, like you know the fifty Shades is great guy,
Christian Gray. Anyway. Okay, So we met on Hinge and
we went out twice, and during our second date we
were like having a really good time. We were even
planning our third date. But then he just never called
and it was it was just really bizarre because we
(00:56):
had such a good time, you know, and then just nothing.
So I'm very confused.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Hu, very weird.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So, I mean, we don't often hear about a third
date ghosting. I mean we have, but usually it's you know,
you go out one time and then someone does some
weird and then you never hear from him again. But
in this case, you guys, I mean, thanks for sort
of progressing to the point where you're gonna go out
three times. That's getting I don't know, semi serious. I
mean it means you really like somebody, I guess, so
you would expect to hear from them again. You didn't
(01:26):
hear from him again, and it's bugging you and you
want to know why.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah. Well, let's call this guy just a second. We'll
see if we can get Christian on the phone, and
you'll be on the phone too. We'll ask some questions
at some point. You're welcome to jump in after we
get you some info. And the hope here is always
that we can straighten things out and then set you
guys up on another date and pay for that. Sound good, Yeah,
that sounds great. We're gonna find out what's going on
in Part two of Waiting by the Phone is next
(01:51):
two minutes away after be oh v frend Show. Hey Angela,
all right, welcome back. Let's call Christian just to recap
you guys met on the dating app Pinge and he
went out twice. On the second date you were even
planning the third date. So we're looking into the future here.
Except after the second date, you never heard from this
man again. He never called you, he never texted, he
has it responded to you. He's ghosting and you want
(02:13):
to know why.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, it's really weird. I would love some clarity.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Okay, fine, well let's call him right now. Good luck, Angela,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Hi is his Christian? Oh yeah, this is see Hey Christian.
Good morning. My name is Fred. I'm calling from the
Fred Show, that morning radio show. The whole crew is here,
and I have to tell you that we are on
the radio right now, and I would need your permission
to continue. Is it okay if we chat for just
a couple of seconds, you can hang up anytime of course. Cool. Yeah, Well,
thank you, thank you very much. We're calling on behalf
(02:54):
of a woman who reached out to us. Her name
is Angela. Says that you guys met on the dating
app Pinge, and he went out a couple of times.
You recall this woman, Oh.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, I know her.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Well, okay, so it was okay. She told us that
you guys have met and went out twice, and we're
talking about a third date and then you disappeared? Is
that true? I mean, what are you avoiding her? What happened?
What's your side of the story.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, basically what happened was it went really well. I
I kind of, you know, like from the get knew
that there was something there, something special, and you know,
after a couple of dates, I said, well, you know,
I don't need to look any further. I think I
found a good one. So basically after that second date,
you know, we had a little chat and I said, hey,
(03:38):
guess what you know you mean something, So I'm deleting
all my apps and i'd like you to do the same,
you know, okay, And then at that point she said no.
I was like, well what does that mean? Then, like,
so this isn't working because it seems like we're really
hitting it off and we're having a good time. So
either you like me or you don't. And she was like, oh,
(03:58):
I don't feel comfortable leaving, as you know, it's just
two dates. And I'm like, uh, just two really great dates,
So delete the apps if you liked me. And then
you know, she just really hurt me. So I was
just like, okay, well I don't need to reach out
to her. Anymore intentions clear?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Oh this this may surprise people, but I don't really
have a problem with what you were attempting to do.
I realized that you're going to get some resistance from
some people, but like, if you like, let me bring
I forgot too mention of the angelist here. I want
to bring Angela and so she can tell her side
at the story here, Angela Christian. You guys know each other?
Is it? I always forget that the other person's here
on absent minded? But is it true that you liked
(04:37):
him enough for another date but you you were not
yet ready to delete the app? Is that because you
still wanted to keep your options open or was that more?
Was that more that you wanted him to think.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
That I just didn't want to shut the door on
any other possibilities just because it's only been two dates.
I'm not saying I don't like him. I do, but
I just think it's a little fast, you know, like
we're not even exclusive yet, and I just I couldn't
(05:11):
make that commitment yet.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Huh. Okay, Well, I don't know about you guys who
have been on the apps before. I know, Kaylen, you
know you've gone on and off or whatever. But like,
it's not easy to get to the point where you're
going on a third date with somebody. And it's also
not necessarily just because someone's hot and you manage with
them and you go out on one day with them,
or that you chat with them, it doesn't mean that
you're going to have in person chemistry. In fact, it
(05:35):
almost there's no guarantee of that. So I feel like
when all those things come together, it's like, I don't know,
why not just see where this goes? As opposed to
me continuing to invest in you knowing that you're also
going out with that, you're also actively searching for other people.
I mean, I can see where Christian's coming from here.
He's like, I like you a lot, I don't want
to play this game anymore. And then you just said,
(05:56):
well no, I mean, so what is it about him that, yeah,
you can pausey apps for a week or two just
to see where things go.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I hear what you're saying. Honestly, I think I'm I mean,
if I'm being honest, I'm just a little afraid of
commitment right now. Like I'm just not entirely sure I
want to be with one person.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
How would how would you react to, Kailin if a guy,
after two admittedly great dates and you're talking about a third,
was like, hey, can we can we jump off these
apps for a minute and see where this goes? How
would you react to that?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
If I'm being honest, I would think it's a little soon,
and I would be a little bit nervous. Not saying
this about you, but I would be a little bit nervous.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I can.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
I mean, that's just my honest answer.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I'm sorry, dude, I don't know. It's a little fast
for me. I mean, Christian, I guess for me, and
maybe you're of the same mindset. But I've been on
these things for a long time and I know what
I'm guilty of. I'm guilty of. I mean, the apps
are designed this way. It's like you meet someone who's great,
but yet you're you're drawn. When you're on them, You're
in your mind, You're like, but I'm gonna keep checking
them because what if? What if somebody better comes along?
(06:59):
And I think before long, you're only focused on what's
new as opposed to what's there, and so I feel
like it's just you're just continually drawn back to it.
And I guess it's hard to feel like someone's investing
in you when you know that they're also checking that
thing a couple times a day to see. But that's dating.
Who's next? You know, it's dating. It's a form of dating, right,
(07:19):
That's how I'm at my husband.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
But I didn't want that, you know, to get off
the apps until I knew we were like official.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, I mean, I look, I see both sides, and
I've done it both ways. But I also think I
don't know. How hard is it to say I don't know?
By the way, another thing that is positive that's come
out of this is that I don't know that Christian,
did you realize that she didn't want to be in
an exclusive relationship because I don't know that that was implied.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
No, she didn't make that at all. I mean, if
you want to be you know, I want to be monogamous.
So that's something I guess we didn't get to cover
in the first two days.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So you're dating with intention to be monogamous. She's dating
with intention to keep her options open. There's nothing wrong
with either one of those things, but that is not
you guys are not on the same page about that,
Like there are plenty of people in the dating apps
that want to keep they just want to see what's
out there, and and then there are people like you
that like they want to be in a relationship. And
I think it sounds like you two are not aligned
on that, and that was going to be a problem anyway.
(08:15):
So I guess I don't have a problem with the
conversation because I mean the ghosting maybe, but the conversation, like,
I don't know, he wants one thing, you want someone else,
So it's probably not going to be a match anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, I mean I think I was created right. It's
like you download the app, find a person, so you
can delete the app.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, I don't know. I guess if you really like somebody,
it's like I'd love to get I'd love to like
focus on this and not necessarily have to deal with
the riff raft. But hey, look, you guys are very
clearly looking for different things, and so I guess it's
not a match. I'll ask, but Christian, would you would
you give her another shot? Would you go out with
her again?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I mean, I think the writings on the wall, as
they say, it's just not a fit, Like I want
someone who wants to fully come and try and you know,
be vulnerable, and if you got one fit out the
door the whole time, then you're not doing that.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So no, but look, I mean she did, in fairness,
even though she wants to quote unquote keep her options open,
she did wonder about you enough to call us and
do all this. So I mean she obviously liked you. Yeah,
and you never know what happens on the line.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
That's why I think it's a little too early to
call it.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
But hey, what do I know?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah? So, but no, that's on day one. Okay, that's right.
Stand your ground, stand on business, that's right, Stand on business,
that's right. Key, I mean what about it? Have you
ever been on the dating amps? Ski?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Key?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
No, no, No. If you're looking to be intentional and
be with one person, then that's your prerogative. She he is,
and she's looking right now to sort of maybe not
yet make that discrimination also her prerogative. Neither one of
them are wrong. They're just looking for two different things.
And look, if I want a girlfriend and I meet
somebody who's amazing and stands out well above all the rest,
(09:55):
that I might put more emphasis on trying to make
that work if if I'm looking for a relationship and
if she is too, then she might be open to that.
But yet they're not looking at the same thing.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
So how I would say that Fred, though, is Hey,
just so you know, you could do whatever you want.
I'm really into you, and I'm going to delete my
app and then you let them respond and it's not
like controlling, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
No, I think that makes a lot of sense. I
think that makes a lot of sense. But I can
see the insecurity of knowing that you've got somebody great
and they're like, no, I want to keep going on
other dates. It's like, well that doesn't Yeah, we're not
building anything then, but that she doesn't want to so
it's all good. So nobody's really in the wrong, but
it's not going to work out. Guys, thank you so
much for your time. Best of looks at both of you.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Thanks you appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Catlet's up next with the Entertainment Report and eight hundred
and fifty bucks for our pop culture expert. Shelby is Shelley.
If you beat her, that money as yours will play. Next,
it's The Fred Show.
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
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