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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fresh Show is on. It's stay or go all right?
Hell Lola, good morning, Lola, welcome to the show. How
are you cool? Lola?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Are you him?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yes? You were mute. You just had a full conversation
with yourself, Lola, I did.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I am a little embarrassed by that.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I will.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
That should just show you how how I'm doing well.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I mean, you know, these things happen. So what's going on?
And first of all, this is kind of a sad story,
and I'm sorry about that. But what's going on with
your boyfriend? And why don't you kind of fill us in?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, so my boyfriend plut our dog down without talking
to me while I was out of town.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I'm sorry for your loss. I mean, I was talking
to someone about this website. Losing humans is difficult, but whatever,
he's losing dogs and pets is as or mortive for
some reason. So I'm sorry that happened to you. What
happened though? Why did he do that?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
You know?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I mean I first got the dog, and thank you
for that. I appreciate. I mean, I'm so out of sorts,
I like can't even work my phone properly. I uh,
I mean I first got the dog. You know about
a year before I started dating my boyfriend, but we've
raised the dog for you know, about seven years, and
I knew, you know, she was having some health issues,
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and you know, I wasn't expecting it to be so soon.
And when I got home, my boyfriend told me that,
I guess she was having seizures. And so my boyfriend
took her to you know, urgent care, and the vet
said it was time to put her down, and my
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boyfriend told me, uh, he didn't want to ruin my trip.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Well, yeah, look, I don't want to sound insensitive when
I say this, but unfortunately I've been part of this
process before, and I feel like when it happens, sometimes
the most humane thing to do is, you know, for
that to for that to occur. Like I've been there
when I've taken a dog to the vet and the
vet has been like, there's nothing we can do. You've
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done everything, like the most you know, the best thing
to do at this point would be probably to consider
putting him or her down because and I suppose a
couple of days may not have mattered much, but what
I would imagine he was thinking. I got to think
is that that was the right thing to do for
the dog, and it wasn't going to change whether you
were there or not. That said, how much longer, Like
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was it two days, three days a week? I mean,
how long was it before you got back?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
It was a couple of days. And it's it's not
even like I do believe I agree with you, like
I do think he did the right thing. There's no
way I want my dog to suffer just for my
selfish reasons to like say goodbye. But the fact that
I wasn't called or consultant rare, like I just show
up and if that wasn't he just broke the news
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to me. That's what bothers me. I can't even look
him in the eye right now, and so I just
that's that's my main issues, Like, am I ever.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Gonna building it over this because Lola people are immediately
texting into this the station, like I don't even need
to hear the whole story. Leave it's unacceptable. Again, I'm
trying to see you know, my mom was out of
town once when we put one of our dogs down,
family dogs down, and it was absolutely the right thing
to do. The dog was having seizures. It was really bad.
My dad did call my mom and say we have
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Katie was her name, kay Katon, Katie the snaucher. She
was sixteen, having seizures all the time, but they were
becoming so consistent that it was like okay, and so
he called my mom and say, hey, I'm going to
take Katie to the vet, but I think it's time.
And my mom was obviously very sad, but that was
the right thing to do, and I think she felt
like she was involved in the decision, which that would
be the I agree that's the part where it have
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probably ruined your trip, but it also is something that
I feel like you should have had some equity in
the decision making process for right.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I agree, Thank you. I feel so validated because you know,
that was like our baby, and and of course I
would have been sad, but you know, I'm an adult, like, yes,
this is my trip would have been I would have
been very sad, But you know it was even more
jarring was was, you know, walking into our home and
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being like, where, where's our fur baby?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
And then him being like, oh.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I just made this decision without even consulting you.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, yeah, I mean again, I'm trying to see the
other side of this, where it's sometimes these things they
can't linger because it wouldn't be fair to the animal.
But at least he could have told you what he
was going to do or what was happening. I also
see that if there I'm trying to play Devil's advocate here,
but if there was no alternative, if this was absolutely
what had to happen, then I don't know where you
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Where did you enjoy your trip for the last few days?
You know what I mean? Like everyone is texting up
here going there's no way that's okay to do. On
the flip side, though, what was he he could have called,
you could have not called. But if they were going
to do it that day, they were going to do
it that day, no matter what. Right, Yeah, So yeah,
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I would want to I would want to know. But
like if you're my parents, for example, my parents have
medical procedures apparently consistently, and then they just forget to
tell me, and then because they don't want me to worry. Yes,
they don't want me to worry. They don't want to
ruin my day, they don't want me to be concerned
all day whatever, And then that my mom will call
me and be like, yeah, Dad's recovering great from what
Oh wow, yeah, you had open heart surgery today and
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they you know, they put a new way, put a
bad boon hard in and it's a great bat boon though,
and everything's fine. He's gonna live to be two hundred
and everything. It's like, well, I would have liked to
have known that, you know, so I could have been supportive.
But I also understand why they feel like if if
it's going to go well and fine and everything, you know,
I mean, if it's a normal thing, then I don't know.
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I like the transparency though personally, but and are you
thinking about leaving him for this?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I mean, it does sort of seem like it's something
so small, but it's also something so big at the
same time.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
You know, like he knows Daisy was my baby, you know,
I mean, she was our dog, but you know that
was that was my baby. So it's just very I
don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I just think that is kind of a major red
flag that you wouldn't consult your partner even if, like
you knew they were on a trip, like I would,
I would have called him.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Do you feel like, is he is he considerate of you?
In other ways, Is this the first time that you've
seen him do something without thinking at least optically with
because some could argue he was thinking about your well being.
Others would say that it was, you know, unacceptable of
him not to consult you. I mean, is he generally
a considerate guy or is it pretty common that he
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just does what he wants and then tells you about
it later.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I would say he's consider it, but kind of like
on like it's now I'm looking at it through like
a different lens, and it's kind of like his good intentions.
That's almost like in like like at a kid, and
I don't want to disrespect him, but like almost like
a kindergarten level, like like the emotional intelligence isn't there,
if you know what I mean, Like I don't know, because.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I'm just thinking if it's a global issue that he
just does stuff and is he going to do that
with your kids some day? Is he going to do that?
You know? I don't know, is he going to do
that with your lives and say, oh, yeah, you know,
we're doing this. Oh, by the way, I took a
job in San Antonio when we're leaving, right, you know,
kind of thing that kind of stuff's going to pop
up all the time where he doesn't think about you,
then that's a problem. But if yeah, in this one instance,
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he sounds like he didn't do right by you, and
I'm no winning though, to be honest, like that's kind
of where I'm at, Like I don't tell her and.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Then the thing is okay. Like if you told her
and she's on a trip, right, I think for me personally,
it would just kill me because I'm not there to
say goodbye.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I'm not there to you know, be there for my
dog's last breath. Oh yeah, trips over right, trips over right?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Done?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, immediately exactly like immediately, which may have been nice
too if you'd had the option to say, all right,
you know, give me twenty four hours, I'm gonna come home.
I want to be there for this kind of thing.
That's I agree with that too. But let me take
some phone calls on this, Lola, and I appreciate you
what you cantum, sorry for your loss, and now we're
gonna talk about you behind your back, so good luck.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Well, thanks, I appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yes, I appreciate you too. Thank you eight five five
three five let's see a vettech here a vet tech
texted vetech for seven years. Unfortunately, with seizures and pets,
depending on the length of them severity, it can lead
to brain neuro damage if numerous occur in a short period.
I agree she should have been told, but in the
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middle of a seizure moment that may not have been
much time to There may not have been much time
to decide, especially if medications weren't stopping them once at
the VET. I've seen some dogs be unable to come
out of a seizure with iView medications and the post
seizure face. See that's again, like, if it happened, if
it had to happen, if the right thing to do
was you know, hey, we need to end this, which
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was the case I was involved with, but luckily everybody
involved was there, you know, in the room. But I mean,
if it had to happen, now, maybe you call and say, hey,
I have terrible news. I'm sorry, this is happening. It's
the best thing for the dog, Daisy, that's what you do, yes, yeah,
and have to communicate right.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
No, you cannot just make that type of decision and
not consult her, like what to me, it says like
he doesn't think she's emotionally strong enough to handle certain things.
So what else will you like to me about or
what else will you omit telling me?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Okay, let's say though, let me ask you this, Kiki.
So you last year, it was last year. You want
to Gracie Award, right, big award. You want a big
award for females and media, and you're at this thing.
God forbid. Let's I don't even want to say Lock's
your dog. Let's just make it. You had a hamster
named Ted, and Ted you love that hamster, but you're
this is your big day and Ted's not doing well.
And Tim takes Ted to the vet and say, Hampshire,
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Ted's got to go. I'm sorry, like he's in a
lot of pain and it's really inhumane and whatever. And
Tim has a choice. Do I call and make Keiki
cry before she goes up on stage and wins as
big a ward, or do I do what has to
be done?
Speaker 5 (10:17):
You know you you call me, You communicate with me,
and even if you know I'm going out on stage
to do something, you call whoever's with me, my sister,
You say, hey, let me know when she's done. Accepting
her award. I want to make sure I let her
know what's going on with Ted. You know, like you
can't just keep secrets from your partner because you're scared
of their reaction. I cannot stand that, Like when people
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try to overthink how I will feel or react to something,
Give me that's fan to feel how I.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Want to feel. Indeed, that's fair.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
And how do you just exist for two days after
you just killed my dog and you're just like, what
are you doing?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Like just vibing, but you just let me walk in
the house to an empty house?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
What weird? Like? You know, I would want to know.
I'm an animal lover, you know, I would want to
know and be involved, and I would get on the
first plane and go. I would want to be there.
That being said, I can see a world where someone's
trying to protect your feelings, at least when the decision
isn't a decision, right, it's not Hey, we could keep
the dog alive for another six months and maybe it
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gets better.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
No.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I mean normally in these situations they'll say to you, like,
this dog's not going to improve, but you're trying.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
To control my reaction to something like as Pinky said like,
please let me decide for myself.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Please. Yeah, I get that. Hey Sarah, good morning, Good morning,
Hi Sarah. So just to recap here, Lola just called
and unfortunately Lola and her boyfriend of about eight years
had a dog together, and the boyfriend put the dog
down while she was on a trip because the dog
was having seizures in not doing well. And then she
returns to find this out. He says he didn't want
to ruin her trip. She says, well, I wanted to
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know what I wanted to know when it was happening,
So maybe she could have come home or I don't know,
I've been aware of what was going on. What do
you think.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
So something super similar happen into myself. We had our cat.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
We were on a trip.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
We were about six hour drive away up in Michigan,
and our cat was a little bit sick, like similar
to what she Lola had said about her dog being
a little bit unwell, and we had somebody watching her
and we got permission from the vet that we could go.
And then all of a sudden, five in the morning,
we get a call that you know, our cat is
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not going to make it like it's at death's door
at a vent and it was an extremely quick process,
like we got in the car to start leaving and
we ended up seeing her for literally like two minutes.
But like the decision was made whether or not, like
we needed to make that decision, and I had to
ask someone else to make that decision. But I cannot
imagine that decision being made for me. Yeah, and with
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my partner was with me, and like ultimately it was
you know, her cat, like she would make the ultimate
decis but even like that was our cat, Like if
that was if someone made that decision without me, I
would feel so betrayed and so not important in such
an like that's kind of like a child.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
In a lot of ways.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Like yeah, even if you were.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
A parent making a huge decision like that on your own,
just because you don't want to ruin a trip, like
I understand, and like it ruined our trip, like you know,
driving in pitch black in the middle of the night,
no sleep, not getting to do something we had planned
to do for you know, five plus years was super disappointing, right,
Not as disappointing losing our cat.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, I mean the situation I was in, I was
dating the woman and it was Sophie was a name.
She was a great talk. But Sophie wasn't doing well
for a couple of weeks. In the last few days
were really bad. And but but I could not be
the one, like I had to just watch this. She
had to make the call, like it had to be her.
And finally one afternoon it was like it was just
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time and finally she said like okay, and then we
went and did it. But like that was her decision
to make on her time frame, based on what she
was comfortable with for the dog, as she'd had for
a long time. So the fact that this woman, Lola,
was not even consulted, I do think is traumatic. On
the flip side, you take the dog in hoping maybe
that's not the outcome, and if it's like the most
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humane thing to do is this right now? I can
also see that world too, because obviously you want what's
most humane for the animal. But I'm sorry that happened, Sarah,
And thank you for calling. All good.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
We're making it through.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, I have a good day. Thank you for listening,
Thank you, appreciate you. Hey Kia, Hi, Hey, So you're
saying maybe these guys.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Are so bad Yeah, that's what I think. I think
that she had all right to Philippe my sister and
her wife lost the dog and saying things she was
devastating they had to take you know, I stayed on
safe time while they were they, you know, just to
be supporting. So I understand the upsetness about it. But
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also you have to understand I think he was really
thinking about her feelings at the end of the day, like, Okay,
I don't want to ruin her trip. I don't know
if she was going to visit the trip or just
a fun trip, but either way, I think he just
didn't want to, you know, upset her. So I think
she should, you know, just think about him considering her
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feelings at the end of the day. I think that
a conversation should be had, like hey, future references. Don't
make decisions like that without me. Let me know, regardless
if he's going to hurt my feelings or if it's
want to ruin a trip, let me know. But I
don't think that's something to leave him over. Okay, all
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just be a conversation.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I hear you have a great day, Thanks for listening,
appreciate you. Uh is it Alicia?
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Hey, good morning. What do you think his ass.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Would be out the door?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Like I get that too.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, yeah, you had better call me because I will
be on a plane like in an instant.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I don't care what is holding you back, Like I
would be there.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
That's my child chatter before he got together, like get
out of.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Here, man.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, I'm trying to give this guy the benefit of
the doubt, but I know I'd be pissed. So yeah,
there's that.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
He had so many opportunities, like to do the right
thing for the dog and for Lola.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Like, oh my lord, I would freaking beat his ass up.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, I hear you. Thank you, Alicia, have a good day,
you too, and all that we've decided leave his ass,
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