January 31, 2025 • 6 mins
In a piece for JustBaseball.com, Clay Snowden calls the Reds' trade for lefty reliever Taylor Rogers "a no-brainer."
Clay joined us to talk about the trade, and some of the other Reds offseason moves, on ESPN1530.
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Clay joined us to talk about the trade, and some of the other Reds offseason moves, on ESPN1530.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lefty reliever Taylor Rogers from the Giants. I think a
pretty solid acquisition. Claiborne Snowden, Just baseball dot Com calls
it a no brainer. Read his piece at just baseball
dot com and I read it this morning and I said,
that's that's the sort of a strong take that I
want on my show. So I asked him to come on,
and here he is. It's good to have you. What's
(00:21):
going on?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hey, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
How good is Taylor Rogers?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
You know, he's a solid veteran lufty and the reds
now have three lufties in the bullpen, which is okay.
Brinks Suitor can face lefties antroeties. But Rogers himself has
had nothing but a great career to this point. And
you know, an e er under bore and some of
the predictive stats say that that could increase. But still
(00:49):
the guy who can get some swing and myths but
produces a lot of ground balls, which is exactly what
you need in Great American ballpark.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So I think the first impulse that I had was, well,
you know, beyond the money, and he was due to
make what eleven twelve million bucks with the San Francisco Giants.
Bullpen arms, lefty bullpen arms are a very hot commodity,
don't I don't think the Giants fancy themselves as teams
that have as a team that has no chance of contending,
So why would they move on from them?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, and you got one thing to remember is Buster
Posey took over this offseason, and you know he had
no ties to Rogers. He's bringing in his own players.
So they signed Willia Domis to a big deal, and
they needed to shed some money. I don't know if
that means that they make a push elsewhere for somebody
like a Pete Alonzo or a different player, but they
(01:39):
were willing to eat six million on this deal, which
is key for the Reds because now the Reds are
only on the hook for six million. And just to
give people a parameter, really what that is? Two relievers
signed yesterday at the same day that the Reds good Rogers,
both for a higher AAV and both similar are enough numbers.
(02:01):
I think estat As who went to Kansas City, is
a better pitcher, but more of a fly ball that
you're not as good of a match for this ballpark.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
So I was talking about this yesterday morning with someone
and then they go and get a bullpen arm. But
I my point to I was actually talking to my boss.
We were talking about the bullpen, and I go, I
feel like they need two guys, right. I feel like
that's an area of the team that we've talked a
lot about what they have to do in the corner
outfield spots, and a lot about what the rotation, the
makeup of the rotation is going to be. I feel
(02:30):
like no one's really talking that much about the bullpen,
and I feel like they need some dudes. They got
a dude. Is acquiring Taylor Rogers enough?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I think for now it is. And keep in mind,
I know the Reds are not always the most active
at the deadline, but bullpen arms are the easiest thing
to get at the deadline, and for the price the
Reds are typically willing to pay, which is not all
that much. So for me, it's you add the veteran
and he's also closed out games. He's had over thirty
(03:03):
saves twice in his career. So if Alexis Diez goes down,
or even if they were to trade him, you at
least have a guy with that experience. I think with
that second Bolton piece. They've addressed it kind of what
we saw this week, which is, let's sign a bunch
of guys with experience and have them battle it out
in spring. They still have two young prospect Bolton arms
(03:26):
that could find their way on this roster, and Zack Maxwell,
who averages over one hundred miles per hour with this fastball.
In Luis May who really showed well this fall and
also has an electric fastball.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Look at the offseason as a whole, because they've acquired
players who, in some cases, with Taylor Rodgers a very
long and well established track record. In Austin Hayes, you
have a guy who's trying to bounce back from what
he was last season. Philadelphia never got, by their own emission,
the real version of Austin Hayes because he dealt with
a kidney issue. So Gavin Lux played for a team
(04:02):
that won the World Series last year. Brady Singer pitched
and was in the rotation for a team that made
the playoffs last year. I think most view each individual
move as fine but not moving the meter all that much.
When you combine all of those moves, does the meter move?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah? And I would give the Reds off season. The
Solids b right now, they did not make the splash
move that one solid or one very good player can
take them and increase their win total significantly. I think
what they did was raised their floor across the board.
You brought in guys who have been proven winners, guys
with recent playoff experience as well, and now you're not
(04:42):
an injury away from a four to A level player.
I think that they are betting on the big splash move,
the equivalent of that being steps forward from Matt McClain,
from La dayla Queries, from their young core that they've established.
That's where they we to see the biggest jump and
that's where their superstars will come from these players, or
(05:05):
just to surround them with winners, surround them experience and
raise the floor.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I feel like with Lucks and maybe even Hayes to
a degree, like we can debate whether Hayes is going
to help out against right handed pitching fair we can
wonder where Lux is gonna play. I think people forget
at the beginning of the season last year, their death
was tested from day one and it failed. They failed
to test right. I mean, they were scratching and clawing
(05:30):
for guys like Mike Ford and so I don't think
that's insignificant, right, Like the headliners this season should be
some of the players you just mentioned, Matt McLain, ces,
et cetera. I don't think we should scoff at depth moves.
I don't think we should scoff at guys who might
play a lot of different positions and they might not
(05:50):
start sixty games more than sixty games at one spot,
but they end up getting in nearly every game because
they can play a lot of different positions, like a
Gavin Lux Have they please build their depth up that
if it gets tested early, they can be better than
they were early in the season last year.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Absolutely, And I think that's key is these moves also
push some of the younger players that did not take
this step forward, like Noel v Marte, like Will Benson.
It pushes them to triple A, which is great to me.
Start off in triple A, you know, probably hit well
on Triple A because they're better than that competition, and
(06:27):
get their confidence, get them started on the right track
because we know injuries will happen, We know there will
be a reliance on those young players instead of throwing
them in the big leagues and see if they can
sink or swim. Improve your triple A depth, allow them
to build their confidence with hitting well in the minors,
and then hopefully they are more ready to step in
(06:48):
when they are needed.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Awesome stuff. I love jessbaseball dot Com. We'll do it again, man,
Thanks so much, I appreciate you have a good one.
Lefty reliever Taylor Rogers from the Giants. I think a
pretty solid acquisition. Claiborne Snowden, Just baseball dot Com calls
it a no brainer. Read his piece at just baseball
dot com and I read it this morning and I said,
that's that's the sort of a strong take that I
want on my show. So I asked him to come on,
and here he is. It's good to have you. What's
(00:21):
going on?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hey, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
How good is Taylor Rogers?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
You know, he's a solid veteran lufty and the reds
now have three lufties in the bullpen, which is okay.
Brinks Suitor can face lefties antroeties. But Rogers himself has
had nothing but a great career to this point. And
you know, an e er under bore and some of
the predictive stats say that that could increase. But still
(00:49):
the guy who can get some swing and myths but
produces a lot of ground balls, which is exactly what
you need in Great American ballpark.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So I think the first impulse that I had was, well,
you know, beyond the money, and he was due to
make what eleven twelve million bucks with the San Francisco Giants.
Bullpen arms, lefty bullpen arms are a very hot commodity,
don't I don't think the Giants fancy themselves as teams
that have as a team that has no chance of contending,
So why would they move on from them?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, and you got one thing to remember is Buster
Posey took over this offseason, and you know he had
no ties to Rogers. He's bringing in his own players.
So they signed Willia Domis to a big deal, and
they needed to shed some money. I don't know if
that means that they make a push elsewhere for somebody
like a Pete Alonzo or a different player, but they
(01:39):
were willing to eat six million on this deal, which
is key for the Reds because now the Reds are
only on the hook for six million. And just to
give people a parameter, really what that is? Two relievers
signed yesterday at the same day that the Reds good Rogers,
both for a higher AAV and both similar are enough numbers.
(02:01):
I think estat As who went to Kansas City, is
a better pitcher, but more of a fly ball that
you're not as good of a match for this ballpark.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
So I was talking about this yesterday morning with someone
and then they go and get a bullpen arm. But
I my point to I was actually talking to my boss.
We were talking about the bullpen, and I go, I
feel like they need two guys, right. I feel like
that's an area of the team that we've talked a
lot about what they have to do in the corner
outfield spots, and a lot about what the rotation, the
makeup of the rotation is going to be. I feel
(02:30):
like no one's really talking that much about the bullpen,
and I feel like they need some dudes. They got
a dude. Is acquiring Taylor Rogers enough?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I think for now it is. And keep in mind,
I know the Reds are not always the most active
at the deadline, but bullpen arms are the easiest thing
to get at the deadline, and for the price the
Reds are typically willing to pay, which is not all
that much. So for me, it's you add the veteran
and he's also closed out games. He's had over thirty
(03:03):
saves twice in his career. So if Alexis Diez goes down,
or even if they were to trade him, you at
least have a guy with that experience. I think with
that second Bolton piece. They've addressed it kind of what
we saw this week, which is, let's sign a bunch
of guys with experience and have them battle it out
in spring. They still have two young prospect Bolton arms
(03:26):
that could find their way on this roster, and Zack Maxwell,
who averages over one hundred miles per hour with this fastball.
In Luis May who really showed well this fall and
also has an electric fastball.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Look at the offseason as a whole, because they've acquired
players who, in some cases, with Taylor Rodgers a very
long and well established track record. In Austin Hayes, you
have a guy who's trying to bounce back from what
he was last season. Philadelphia never got, by their own emission,
the real version of Austin Hayes because he dealt with
a kidney issue. So Gavin Lux played for a team
(04:02):
that won the World Series last year. Brady Singer pitched
and was in the rotation for a team that made
the playoffs last year. I think most view each individual
move as fine but not moving the meter all that much.
When you combine all of those moves, does the meter move?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah? And I would give the Reds off season. The
Solids b right now, they did not make the splash
move that one solid or one very good player can
take them and increase their win total significantly. I think
what they did was raised their floor across the board.
You brought in guys who have been proven winners, guys
with recent playoff experience as well, and now you're not
(04:42):
an injury away from a four to A level player.
I think that they are betting on the big splash move,
the equivalent of that being steps forward from Matt McClain,
from La dayla Queries, from their young core that they've established.
That's where they we to see the biggest jump and
that's where their superstars will come from these players, or
(05:05):
just to surround them with winners, surround them experience and
raise the floor.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I feel like with Lucks and maybe even Hayes to
a degree, like we can debate whether Hayes is going
to help out against right handed pitching fair we can
wonder where Lux is gonna play. I think people forget
at the beginning of the season last year, their death
was tested from day one and it failed. They failed
to test right. I mean, they were scratching and clawing
(05:30):
for guys like Mike Ford and so I don't think
that's insignificant, right, Like the headliners this season should be
some of the players you just mentioned, Matt McLain, ces,
et cetera. I don't think we should scoff at depth moves.
I don't think we should scoff at guys who might
play a lot of different positions and they might not
(05:50):
start sixty games more than sixty games at one spot,
but they end up getting in nearly every game because
they can play a lot of different positions, like a
Gavin Lux Have they please build their depth up that
if it gets tested early, they can be better than
they were early in the season last year.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Absolutely, And I think that's key is these moves also
push some of the younger players that did not take
this step forward, like Noel v Marte, like Will Benson.
It pushes them to triple A, which is great to me.
Start off in triple A, you know, probably hit well
on Triple A because they're better than that competition, and
(06:27):
get their confidence, get them started on the right track
because we know injuries will happen, We know there will
be a reliance on those young players instead of throwing
them in the big leagues and see if they can
sink or swim. Improve your triple A depth, allow them
to build their confidence with hitting well in the minors,
and then hopefully they are more ready to step in
(06:48):
when they are needed.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Awesome stuff. I love jessbaseball dot Com. We'll do it again, man,
Thanks so much, I appreciate you have a good one.
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