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Talk station, AY thirty fifty five KRCD talk station. Friday
Eve one of my favorite times of the week because
we could talk to IHART Media aviation expert Jay Ratliffe
live from the Southern Command, which means he is in
Savannah and therefore probably experienced some of the hurricane that
went through welcome, Jay ratl If. It's always a great
thing to have you on my program Sir.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It's good to be here.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
And yes, we're seeing sunrise, which I think first time
since Saturday we've actually seen a sunrise here in Savannah.
So they call this place the low country, and believe me,
it is when you get the way of sixteen to
twenty inches of rain. Yeah, a storm came over us
and just stayed.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
It was like the house guests that refused to leave.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Wow, did you suffer any damage?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
We had some, Yeah, but it's minimal.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
And Brian, when I was battling the water like in
my office, which was really annoying, I kept thinking, good lord,
you know people lost their lives in the stormy Sir.
You know, I'm just I always try to keep things
in proper perspective and pray for the families that were impacted.
And if I got to deal with a little bit
of water, so be it.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
That's why I love you, man. You're always looking at
for the life. From that perspective, it could be a
hell of a lot worse. I can mop the floor
up and I'll move on with my life. I wanted
to pivot over to this not on your list, And
I know you don't mind taking a fielding questions and
talking about topics that you don't have on your list.
This I feel terribly, terribly sorry for those astronauts who
(02:04):
flew to the International Space Station on the inaugural fight
of the what is it star liner Boeing Starliner.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
The Boeing Starliners, cause you got that Boeing went out there.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So they make it to the International Space Station and
then the craft is declared what, it's not seaworthy, it's
not the right, it's not spaceworthy or something. In other words,
they might die coming back on it. So there's a problem.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Yeah, the thrusters aren't working exactly as they need them to,
and they've got some leaks they're dealing with. And I mean,
you know me in space, if somebody said Jay, I
didn't want you into space at three point fifteen today,
I'm there.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
But you put Boeing on.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
The side of the aircraft spacecraft.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I mean, that's just tempting fate.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
But you know, when they got up there, I think
all of us just kind.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Of had this collective sigh of relief.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Like, oh, thank god, they made it, not even thinking
they couldn't get back. But they conducted several tests the
thrusters and I think there's like thirty six different combinations
and Bryant, it's not yet been flawless. They've had issues
each and every time, and since the space program thankfully
is on a you know, we have to make sure
everything is working, plus all the backups. It's something that
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they simply are just saying, look, and to everyone's credit,
the easiest thing to do, would we try to push it,
get them home safe, let's move on. But what they're
making sure of is that it's safe, because they're like,
we're not going to do this if there's an element
of danger, and even if it makes us look worse,
and I guess that's possible, we're going to continue trying
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to see what.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
We can do.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
And you know, this spacecraft has a shelf life, if
you will, as far as the amount of time it
can remain at space at one time.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
It's ad or exceeded that. So that's the other.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Issue they've got because they've got components on there that
need to be checked, rechecked, replace, what have you. It's
just like the cycle life on an aircraft. Every part
on an airplane is inspected and or replaced every so off.
Normally it's hours that the aircraft's been in operation. That's
why if I get on an airplane that's thirty nine
years old, I don't worry because it's not a thirty
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nine year old aircraft that's been rebuilt constantly, year after
year after year, and it's still an airworthy aircraft. This
Boeing situation in space, you got to feel for them
because they're still there. You know, I always kidding people,
you know, the self alert's got that thing that helped me.
I can't get up, what about press help? I can't
get down because these guys are up there, and look
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if they love space, they're enjoying it.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
But eventually you got to come home.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Well, and eventually you might have to turn to another manufacturer,
and that would be Elon Musk's company.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Somebody's going to have to do it. And then the
Boeing star Liner program, which was over budget and way
way way way way way delayed, will probably just sail
off into the sunset, never to be seen again. And
who could blame them giving everything that's been taking place
right now?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Well, I saw an interesting statement from Boeing that came
out yesterday. You know, they say they still believe in
the Boeing star Liner quote, if NASA decides to change
the mission, we will take the actions necessary to configure
star Liner for an uncrude return. So the copsule stuck
to the space station right now, they're busy testing in
So they're going to send it back with nobody in
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it leading the astronauts in space.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Well, the thought is, if.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
You can't make sure that it's going to operate exactly
as it needs to, that's the only way they're going
to bring it home. Because if all the tests that
they've done, and they've done many aren't one hundred percent
of their satisfaction. You know, there's a certain degree of
safety that you can use if it's man and unmanned, right,
and obviously you've got a lot more latitude, a lot
more room for air if it's if it's an unmanned return,
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and I suspect that's exactly what's going to take place,
because then if you have some of the systems leaking
or not totally working as it needs to, you don't
have to worry about the lives of the astronauts that
are on board the aircraft during the return to Earth,
So I think it's going to be somebody else bringing
them home. And it's just, you know, Bo's got so
many issues this this hearing that we had in Washington,
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d C.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, they're trying to get answers.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, we're going to get into that in a minute,
because we're almost out a time. And I know that's
on your topics, but I guess if they sent it
home unmanned and it disintegrates on return, you know, a
re entry, it doesn't let me, maybe goes off into
space and lands on the Sun or something like that.
Bowe's never going to be able to get around the
optics of that, at least if it comes back safety.
They said, well we got it back, it would have
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been okay if the astronauts were on it apparently was
fixable enough. I just don't see how this is a
win at all for Boeing.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Well, they're pressed.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
People are going to try to spin it the best
way they can, and I know that It's like when
I see a drugstock that's down eighty percent on positive
drug news.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah right, you can give it whatever.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Headline you want, doesn't mean that it's necessarily inaccurate statement.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
We'll bring Jay back. We'll talk about Germany's busiest airport
brought to a standstill over a tiny little something or other,
and then we'll talk about that hearing on the Boeing
door plug factory workers testifying about pressure work too fast.
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If you're seer for prety Wanet thinking about KRCD talk station.
He's nationwide iHeartMedia, all the iHeartMedia stations. He's on seven
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Speaker 4 (08:47):
Me told Fox and Friends no, just to be with you.
So that shows you how much this segment means to me.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I love you so much, Jay, I appreciate our conversations
and it is just a wonderful thing to move into
a Friday on somewhat lighter conversations. All though, moving over
to Boeing and the door plug problem, apparently Boeing factory
workers testified that they've been under a really lot of
pressure to work quicker, and of course fast means lower
quality products that come off the line, including doors that
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fly off midflight.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
You and I talked seven months ago when that last
airline's door plug blew out of that seven thirty seven
in flight, and it was at that moment Boeing and
the Federal Aviation Administration began there. I want to say investigation.
I'll have to put it in quotes to find out. Okay,
where in the process was this door installed, Who did it?
How did we miss not putting in the bolts that
would like secure it to the aircraft. So they have
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this congressional inquiry that's going on, and you've got Boeing
officials and the FA officials that are reporting that guess what.
They still have no idea where the mistake took place.
They don't know who was responsible, they don't know when
it happened. They can't answer a thing. And again Boeing
has been less than forthcoming, and you had congressional members
that were losing their minds here. They're like, Waite, We've
(10:00):
had seven months and we don't know anything. So the
question is being asked, and they were excellent questions, was look,
if you can't tell me when it happened, where it happened,
you're telling me it could happen again at any time
on any aircraft, right yeah, oh, And it was like
a well, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
So the thought is what are we doing.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
I mean, if we can't determine seven months after another,
this is something that should be so out of the
norm that it's real easy for us to determine because
everything is so carefully choreographed during the assembly process, on
any aircraft that we would know who was on duty
which aircraft, you know, who was on duty when this
particular part was being put together malfunction.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I mean it is.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
It's not like you know, an assembly line where.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
You're just a bunch of people slept.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Everything is so tightly controlled and documented, right, there's no
way you could not know.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I know, I was thinking, don't these airplanes have like
a ven number? I mean, you just don't have a
Boeing multi million aircraft getting assembled with each person responsible
for some component of that aircraft on a rather long
assembly time. How in the hell could they not know that?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I mean, come on, you have to because every single
part on every single aircraft has a number, and that
number is either inspected or replaced every so many cycle
hours or duration of time that it's on the aircraft.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
It's always so documented.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Because that's what makes commercial aviation safe. We know this
particular part of an aircraft tends to start to wear,
show signs of wear at this point, that's when it's
inspected and at this point it's replaced. That's all we do.
And the idea that you can show up seven months
after a near catastrophic event, thank God, no one.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Lost their life.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
You can't provide any answers whatsoever. It speaks to the
FAA's lack of oversight, and it speaks to Boeing sitting
there with that, just that arrogant smirk that says, I'm
going to tell you what I want to tell you,
and I'm not going to tell you any more than I.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Want to And they get away with it all the time.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Brian, you know, in your background and law, I don't
know how you put up with that, knowing that you've
got this this and again these are my words, my impression.
I could be totally wrong, but when I see this
arrogance that Boeing has had about them for the last
five years plus, it just it drives me out of
my mind. Because they're not delivering the mail. It's not
okay if my package gets here tomorrow instead of today.
(12:25):
You're talking about people's lives, people that trust you, and
the lack of this oversight is totally unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
And it continues well, it does, And I guess it's
because Boeing doesn't fear any you know, repercussions or implications.
Most notably you've pointed out before many times because of
the multi billions of dollars they have related to the
defense industry and the fact that they do produce so
many things the government relies on. They can't go out
them too hard. But you know, if this is a
civil action and I was asking for discovery and they
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refuse to give me discovery, I could go to court
on a motion to compel and the judge would order
it to happen, and if they didn't do it, they'd
be found attempt at court, and I can get attorney's fees.
There are repercussions for not handing it over. Plus you
know also default like instructions to the jury that they're
entitled to draw conclusions because the well, the person you're
asking for the information from destroyed it or something. So
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spoliation inferences. But the point being there are ramifications here,
there just doesn't seem to be any It's almost as
if Boeing has taken a queue from like let's say,
the FBI or the Department of Justice or other lettered
agencies who refuse foil requests even in the face of
judicial orders telling them to send over the information.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Yeah, dig in your heels long enough and let the
storm pass and we'll just go on about our way
and we'll become back burner news instead of front burner
and go from there. And you know, had Boeing really
been fearful, like you said five years ago when they
lied and admitted, they lied and admitted, they covered up
and had two plane crashes with three hundred and forty
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six lives lost. That's the moment they should have pivoted
and said, you know what, enough of this.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
We are becoming the Boeing of old.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
And all they've done over the last five to six
years has done the same crap they've been doing since,
if not more.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
And it's a.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Miracle nobody died, thank god, in that last airline's flight.
And just imagine that the explosive dreak decompression that took
place at that moment where it's so loud the person
next to you you could scream in their ear and
they don't hear you.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
You've got to.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Communicate with the person seated next to you in texting
a message that they can read as all this is
going on because of the noise. And then you understand
that the flight crew in the cacpit cannot communicate with
the flight attendants a to find out what's going on
or be to give instructions as far as what's taking place.
It was a horrific, horrific situation. Thankfully people are living
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with PTSD versus the airplane going down. But Brian, it's
just the idea that so much of this is being
looked at in retrospect is eh, you know, it's just maddening.
And they've got a new CEO at the top of
Bowing and I like this guy, but I'm afraid the
culture is going to change him into being the hero
that he has been in the past to just another
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one of the guys that goes along with the crowd.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
The lot of they've already lost a lot of good
will and to lose even more and probably that translates
the loss of airflying orders anyway. Moving over a mouse, Okay.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yes, can we call him a mighty mouse? I mean
he's a full three inches long. I think this little
dormouse is. But you're talking about the Germany's busiest airport
in Frankfort.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You got this this little.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Mouse that at ten forty five decided for midnight snack,
started chewing on one of the electrical wires.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Boom the lights go out.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
You're talking about the busiest airport in Frankfort down because
of this little mighty mouse that shoot on the wrong wire.
It took Yeah, they had to dispatch the fire trucks.
That did not end well for the mouse. But what
ended up taking place was it took him five hours
to get the power restored. I were spending billions of
dollars on security, but the airport was brought down by
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a mouse. So fortunately it was overnight at ten forty
five is when it happened. They got I think the
power restored at three something in the morning. The impact
of commercial aviation was minor. I think the dozen flights
or less were impacted.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
But it just goes to show I mean, it does
not take much of it.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
It reminds me of the American Airlines flight that left
Honolulu for Asia and they don't know how, but a
squirrel got into the overhead console. They take off in
here they hear the scratching going on above them, and
they're like, what's going on? And there was a squirrel up.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
There chewing on who knows what. And you talk about
a crew that.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Got that airplane back to Honolulu and on the ground
as soon as they could. If that little guy could
have chewed on through something that I don't know, they
needed to keep the airplane.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
In the sky. Well that's great.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I just kind of wonder in the back of my
mind as the mouse had been radicalized online to commit
this active terror for nefarious burbses.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Uh yeah, well you know, I mean, there's so many
different angles we could go on that I'll leave them alone.
But it's just it's amazing that we were worried about
so many things, and you that's the thing that brings
that airport to a standstill. Not environmentalist on the runway,
but a mouse that's behind the scenes.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
And all the people who's tried whose travel plans got
interrupted because of that. I don't know what he was
talking about. Joe Strecker mentioned something about Richard gear I
don't know, but anyway, moving on hub delays is where
we always part company. Jay Ratliff, don't go down this
road hub Delays.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
That's the guy who's got my recordings being nice to him. Yeah,
Charlotte has got the bullseye, plain and simple. The rain
that had just camped over Savannah for like forever is
now pounding Charlotte for the entire day. If you're flying
American Airlines connecting through Charlotte, get to the airport extra
early because we're seeing a great number of flight delays
and cancellations. Most of those people, if they can, are
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being re routed on American through another one of their
hubs Chicago, Dallas, Kennedy. It's called an online reroute, but
that is going to be clearly the headache.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Of the day.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Jay Rayli, thank you so much for the time you
spend my listeners me every Thursday. I'll look for to
next Thursday already and as always, best of health you
and your better half.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
We'll talk soon, looking forward to thank you. Eight fifty to.
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