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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Follow the efficiency.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Look that he's found.

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Fifty five KRC the talk station.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Eight o four, a fifty five car CD talk station.
Happy Wednesday, Very happy Wednesday. Not only do we get
the big picture with Jack Addan, my favorite back to
back segment here on the fifty five Garric Morning Show
always begins with Congressman Thomas Massey. Welcome back, my friend.
It's a pleasure having you on my program.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Wow, I feel like I've been run over by a
freight train.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
That's good to be on.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Well, you know, I z Iggy Pop observed the lust
for life. You know, I've had it in the year before.
You've got in the year before. But have you ever
got into the ear before? From Tom Donald Trump? He
came out swinging the other day on social media and
asking the UV primary because you set it out loud
in advance of the Continued Resolution vote that you would
be a no, and you delivered on your promise. It
was a two seventeen to two thirteen pass with one Democrat,

(00:52):
Jared Golden from Maine, defying his party. But you defied
your party and said no. What was the premise behind
your Well, first of all, if your reaction to Donald
Trump actually singling you out.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, you know, President Trump went after Canada and me yesterday,
and the difference is Canada is eventually going to cave.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, I know you're not one to cave, standing on principle,
now your principal.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, let me give you the simplest description of what
this bill does. This is a continuing resolution. It's a
cut copy paste of last year's budget, which means yesterday
every Republican except for me, voted to lock in Biden's
agenda and the exact same spending levels on the exact
same things until September thirtieth. Like they have now tied

(01:43):
Trump's hands until September thirtieth on all the discretionary spending.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
It's off the table.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Doach, you can't cut it, et cetera, et cetera. Now
there is one chance, a last ditch chance, which is
you can do recisions. You can get Bill's pass with
fifty one votes in the Senate to take some of
the spending out.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
But for now they.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Have respent, refunded all of the DOGE cuts, those waste
fraud abuse that we're supposed to get cut. Congress just
re upped it. And Brian, I love coming on your show,
because we could go back and find the history of
me telling you what's going to happen, and then it happened.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, it's true. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
This spending bill was due on September thirtieth of last year. Okay,
and instead of doing the twelve separate bills, which is
what we should be doing, people are always like, well,
Connor's and Massy, what would you do. I would do
twelve separate bills and take the threat of a shutdown
off the table. Because if you put twelve bills over
in the Senate and they don't like three of them, well,

(02:47):
there's only three things that are not funded. Nine tenths
nine twelves of the government gets funded. So they didn't
do twelve bills by September thirtieth, So they did a CR.
They said, Okay, we don't want to before the November election.
It's too important. We might lose the majority if we fight,
and we might not win the White House if we fight.

(03:07):
So let's fight after the election.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
So they punted it.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
They punted the spending bill using a CR into December
of last year.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Okay, Oh, guess what.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
We won the election, guys, we won the Senate. We
kept the House and we won the White House. But
you know what, it's not time to fight. We shouldn't
fight yet because let's let's wait until we're in charge
of the Senate, until we have the Senate majority leader,
until we have a.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
President who can signed the bill.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
And instead of going to January, because January a cr
from last December to this past January. Well that won't
give Trump enough time to get his feet underneath of him.
So let's do it until March. Okay, well, here comes,
here comes March. This is this is where we are, Brian.
Tomorrow the funding runs out. And what's their excuse. Now

(03:57):
they've used two excuses. They used, oh, wait till the election.
The second excuse was wait until everybody gets sworn in
the new majority. And now the excuse is we don't
have we need more time. We need more time. That
is the worst excuse in the world. That's basically saying
we've run out of excuses. Because what happens with time
is the mandate that President Trump achieved in that in

(04:20):
the victory, that overwhelmed the victory, It wears off, it
doesn't last four years. In fact, when I talked to
President Trump two weeks after the election last November, I said,
you've got I think you got about six months to
get all this done, and then they're going to try
to bog us down and tie us up. And he

(04:42):
seemed to agree with me then. But now the strategy is,
let's wait nine months to fight.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
What is I guess by way of you know time
you mentioned the twelve appropriations bills. We've talked about this
so many times. Congress hasn't done their job. Now for
how long with twelve individual appropriately bills as are required
to do onto the terms of their job descriptions? Where
were those in process before we got to the fall
and the need to do a continuing resolution?

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Well, under Kevin McCarthy we got like six or nine
of them done, depending of the twelve, depending on what
you count as done, whether it's in committee or whether
it's on the floor. Last year none zero, and this
year I don't think they're even going to try. But
here's the thing, Brian, even if you didn't go through committees,

(05:33):
you know, even if you didn't do the regular order,
the process that we're supposed to follow, we would still
be better off if they went in the back room
and wrote twelve separate bills instead of going in a
back room and shaking hands with Hakeem Jeffries and agreeing
to a fake fight and just extending Biden's spending levels
into the first nine months of Trump's administration.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Like this fight was so fake.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yesterday, and you know, I was taking the brunt of it.
I'm good, I'm okay with that because I was calling
it out as a fake fight because all but one
Republican voted for this bill, and all but one Democrat
voted against it. So they made it look like conservative
versus liberal fight, which wouldn't this thing gets to the Senate.
They need sixty votes in the Senate. I called up

(06:22):
a certain senator over there, and I'm like, how many
Democrats are going.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
To vote for this? And he said between ten and fifteen.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
They've they added some money in this thing to sweeten
it up for the Democrats. They made it look like
a fight in the House. And here's how sure that
I am that this is a fake fight that's not
even going to get fought in the Senate, even though
it was the fake fight in the House. They've sent
us all home, Like I'm still in DC, but they

(06:51):
put everybody on planes last night and today and said
we're done in the House. And by the way, the
funding doesn't run out until Friday, so the Senate has
two days to do this. They know the Senate's going
to pass it if they because if they so much
has changed the punctuation, they have to call everybody back
from the House Representatives.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
And past that version.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Well, as you observe, this continues the spending levels under
the Biden administration. So why would the Democrats vote against it?

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (07:21):
I just talked to a I can't say somebody used
to be in Congress, and he's like, I don't get it.
Tell me what you all are doing, Tell me what
you are to do it, because it looks like this
is the Democrats dream. Here's something else that happened, Brian.
Remember under the FRA two years ago when we raised

(07:43):
the debt limit and I took a lot of flak
for agreeing to vote for that.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
And the Rules Committee.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
The reason I voted for it, we got a deal
where if they do a cr that goes past April thirtieth,
everything gets cut one percent.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Right, And I was taking the bet.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
I was making the at that these jokers up here
wouldn't get the twelve separate bills done, that they wouldn't
even get an omnibus done, that they would eventually just
do a CR for the whole year. Well, guess what,
that's just what they did. And that term it's called
a sequester. It's in language, it was passed into law,
and they got a bunch of legal parliamentarians up here

(08:20):
who huddled and decided that if this r goes past April,
it would be a one percent cut. But since they're
going all the way to September thirtieth, not September twenty nine,
Since they're going all the way to September thirtieth for
the purposes of that one percent cut, it is the
one percent cuts no longer valid because they're counting it
as an omnibus, as a full year spending omnibus.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
What.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, So basically they're turning off the one percent across
the board cut that was agreed to and signed into
law as a sequester two years ago.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Well that sounds that sounds rather orwell, and that you
can you can call it an obolost when it's a
continued resolution.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yes, correct, they've just decided for the purposes of since
it suits their purposes not to.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Have the cut.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
It's like t ball, Bryant. All all Speaker Johnson had
to do was walk up to the plate and swing
the bat. The ball was already on the tee to
cut things one percent. Here's the problem. The military guys were.
When I say military guys, I mean military industrial complex. Yes, I.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Don't mean the soldiers, right.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
The soldiers deserve a pay raise, they deserve the veterans
deserve to be taken care.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Of all that.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
What I'm saying is the people who are here for
Lockheed Martin and raze On and Boeing and GE. I
know there's GE jobs in today, but all of those
because they make the motors for the engines for these things.
Those lobbyists and those congressmen that are most subservient to
those lobbyists demanded that they're not be.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
A one percent cut. And I'm talking about Republicans. That's
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
I'm struggling to find something that's FCC compliance by way
of reaction in or Congressman Massey.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
So I'm just laying it all out there for you, Brian,
and for your listeners. And I know there's a lot
of crazy terms like cr onto this blah blah blah.
All you got to remember is what just happened in
the House yesterday, and it's going to happen in the
Senate today or tomorrow. Is going to lock in the
spending levels of Biden's last fifteen months his term. Those

(10:33):
will be locked in until September thirtieth. That Trump's agenda,
if he's going to do it through spending, which is
basically how you do ninety percent of this, either cutting
or expanding spending in different regions, he can't implement it
until September thirtieth because it's already locked down. The Biden

(10:55):
money is locked down the Democrats. It was a fake
fight in the House, and you're going to find out
when this thing passes the Senate that the Democrats actually.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Like it well at the risk are running over. I
just got to ask this, But for their part, what
do the Republican side of the ledge, of the ones
that you had to deal with at voter for this,
how do they defend what you just pointed out? What
is their motivation? This running out of time when they
could have you know, done some cuts or at least
not called it an omnibus and left it as a
cr so we would be guaranteed the one percent cut

(11:24):
across the board. Is it all this nefarious type of
military industrial complex type Republicans?

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, that's that's part of it. But the question is
how did the Freedom Caucus come along?

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, And.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
The answer is Trump's advisor said, you don't. We got
to avoid a shutdown, and the Democrats are itching for
a shutdown, but so basically, give them what they want
so we don't have a shutdown, and then we'll try
to take a different bite at the apple. Another bite
at the apple September thirtieth. That's a false promise and

(11:57):
a different bite of the apple with the reconciliation to
early summer.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
But I guess ex mandatory spinning.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Recognize they were at least believing in part and ignoring
the military industrial complex.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
States.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
If you had cut the problem didn't lie in the House,
you probably would have. Let's assume you had enough votes
to vote for something that reduced the size of scope
of government. But these had some cuts in it, and
all the Republicans got there together and said, yeah, that's fine.
The problem was that would be the Senate then, right,
because they wouldn't get sixty votes in the Senate for this,
they will because it extends everything. The Democrats wont because
it's one of the Biden and Jenna spending levels. But

(12:31):
they the shutdown would have come as a consequence of
the vote in the Senate though, right.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Well, listen, if you if if you resign yourself to
that mass and that logic. By the way, that's one
of ten things they pull out of the hat the
reasons not to fight ever versus we don't have the
Senate or we don't have.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
The White House.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
But when you get the White House, the Senate, in
the House, they say, we don't have sixty.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Votes in the Senate.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
If you, if you believe, if you truly believe that,
then you absolutely know on September thirtieth of this year,
we are not going to fight because there we aren't
picking up eight seats in the Senate. That's right, Like
there is no election between now and September thirtie. So
if you believe that logic, which I don't buy, I
say you put them on the spot. And by the way,

(13:18):
crs are a crappy way to do it, like even
the one percent cut CR is a crappy way to
do it, and omnibus is a crappy.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Way to do it.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
But because then you have this giant shutdown where everything
shuts down if you don't if you don't get it
past the Senate. That's why you should send twelve separate
bills to the Senate, like the law prescribes the nineteen
seventy four budget control.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
At amen to that.

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A twenty one fiftive out KRCD talk station. Judge Napolitano
up next, he's probably listening right now. Joe gave the
heads up the Congressman Thomas Massy beyond the program, Judsephulaton
a huge fan of Congressman Massy as am I let's
talk talk about either end the fed or Safer Voter Act.
I want to make sure we get the most important
topic in your world before we go to the end
of the segment.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Congressman, well, yeah, easiest one to cover. I think we
can do in both.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Safer Voter Act stands for second amendment for every registerable voter.
So what I'm doing is tying the age that you
can buy a handgun to the age at which you
can vote. There should be basically one age of adulthood,
and I believe it's eighteen. The problem right now is
you are not allowed to buy a handgun from a

(16:35):
licensed FFL if you are eighteen, nineteen or twenty years old.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Right, you have to register for the draft.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
You can go die for your country, but or somebody
other's country.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
Unfortunately, same thing with alcohol or Yeah there's another one
now that one's ostensibly a state issue, but they've mandated
it through.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
A traffic total highway dollar. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, but the federal firearms you know, laws prevent eighteen,
nineteen and twenty year olds from buying. Now, you could
buy one off of a family member, you can buy
one off of a friend.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
This is the irony. I don't think the liberals realize this.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
They want everybody to go through a background check, but
you're not even allowed to go through that if you're eighteen,
nineteen or twenty anyone who you got to find one
in the back alley or get it for Christmas. So
I want to change that by lowering that age to eighteen.
And so that's the easy one. In the FED, this

(17:38):
should be obvious. We should end the Federal Reserve. Somebody
asked me at a speech after a speech last weekend
in Kentucky, do you think Trump went into the federal Reserve?
I said no, I think he wants to be the
federal Reserve like he would he would like to have
a knob with the interest rates, and he would like
to turn the knob right. But the reality is we
shouldn't be turning that knob, shouldn't be fine monetizing our debt.

(18:03):
Yet that's what we do, and it's really Congress uses
the Federal Reserve to devalue the dollar.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
We shouldn't be doing that.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
And then the Federal Reserve is supposed to be independent.
They're not really. It's a revolving door between bankers, investment bankers.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
And the Treasury.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
They go to the FED and they turn knobs and
then they come back and collect on whether or their
friends are collecting on the benefits of the way they
set the knobs there at the FED.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
That's why it needs to be audited. That's my other bill.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Some people say, if you audit to FED find out
what's really going, you'll want to end the FED.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
So I've introduced both bills, one to audit it and
one to end it.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
All right, any tu reading on whether either or both
will pass.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
I don't think we're going to get into Fed. Audit
to FED. We've got that pass in the House a
few times, it goes through the Oversight Committee, and it's
passed the House.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
I think they.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Should bring it up in the Senate. You've got Democrats
over in the Senate. You know, you've got to get
to sixty. Like Bernie Sanders, who voted for audit the
FED in the House, but now that he's a Senator,
maybe he doesn't want to.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Audit the FED.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
It might be too revealing and it might cause Congress
the well yeah, yeah, uh huh. Monetizing the we're going
to end up the Fiat currency is just going to collapse,
and the whole world's going to fall apart Congress from messy.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
That's when the music stops is when they stop using
US as reserve currency because we basically we don't just
tax our own citizens when we devalue the money through inflation,
we're taxing every country that holds our dollars as we are,
or holds our bonds treasuries. That's like kind of how
they hold the dollars, and they're kind of getting tired
of it.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
They've got less.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Appetite to buy our debt. That's why interest rates.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Are going up.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
They're not going up because the Fed wants them to
go up. They really don't have complete control over interest
rates anymore. It's the people who buy our debt, and eventually,
with bills that like the one that passed yesterday, they
are going to demand more interest. Yeah, and it's just
going to start compounding.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
I wish we ended on a better note, Congressman Massy,
but it is reality and we've got to know it
and understand it to get something done going in the
right direction. Congressman Thomas Massey, I understand and appreciate everything
you do, and I thank you for coming on the
morning show and sharing your time with my listeners and
me and keep I guess I'll say, keep speaking truth
to power, even though no one apparently listening to you, like.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
It's streaming into the void. But say hi to the
judge for me. Yeah, I think you just did.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
I do believe he's he's streaming the audio right now,
but I will make a point of doing that. Take
care of my friend. We'll talk again soon. Stick around, folks,
Judge an anapolitanum My weekend in Moscow. That'll be next
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