November 17, 2025 • 25 mins
The Olympics is reportedly implementing a commonsense ban on biological male athletes from women's sports... and LGBT influencers are not coping well, spreading fake news and panic in response. Plus, backlash after the Babylon Bee made a joke about right-wing podcast star Megyn Kelly is dividing the internet. I break it all down in this episode of the Brad vs Everyone podcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Olympics has made a move to band trans women
and CIS female athletes with quote male levels of testosterone
from competing.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
If that sounds fake and like something that didn't happen,
it's because it is fake and definitely did not happen.
We're going to tackle the latest fake news coming from
LGBT influencers who are not coping well with some actually
(00:27):
positive developments in the world of sports and the Olympics
and so much more on today's episode of The Bad
Versus Everyone podcast, my daily show where I take on
all the craziest ideas from across the Internet and social media,
all from an independent perspective. Like I mentioned, we got
to check in with the world of the alphabet people,
(00:49):
the Wi Fi password community, whatever you want to call them,
over on TikTok, because they're responding to a news development,
which is this reporting suggesting that the Olympic Committee will
be taking steps to restrict trans women and also intersects athletes,
so basically anybody who is genetically or biologically male from
(01:10):
competing in women's sports. I think a win for sanity,
definitely an eighty twenty issue. However, LGBT influencers are running
with a doomsday kind of panicked narrative about this that
is not real or true, and we're going to take
a listen to it up. First, we're going to hear
(01:30):
from our orange haired transgender identifying friend over on TikTok
our first video. Let's buckle up and take a listen.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
So, the Olympics is banning trans women from competing and
also CIS athletes with male levels of testosterone. And while
it sucks to see institutions such as the Olympics banning
trans women off of hysterics, I want to really point
out the fact that they are also banning cisgendered women.
The entire argument of this fucking trans sports craze is
(02:01):
that trans women have a biological advantage, right, So why
are you banning cisgendered women, if you know, because if
this like anti trans people in sports movement, is truly
about protecting the sanctity of women's sports, why are you
banning cisgendered women from sports? Like, if you're going to
(02:24):
be exclusionary for a reason, like at least hold up
to that. But also, this entire craze of banning people
from sports is just so fucking interesting to me because
at what point did we decide that sports are meant
to be fair.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
As it genuinely bewilders me that people are still doing this.
They're still beating this dead horse, clinging to this indefensible
lunacy of biologically male people in women's sports. Now, it
wasn't just this one influencer, a bunch of them took
this screenshot of a headline from a super far left
(03:04):
LGBTQ news website them and shared it, and that headline
says Olympics move to ban transwomen and CIS female athletes
with male levels of testosterone. That is what they're going with.
And they're claiming that, oh, you know, they got caught
up in this craze and now they're banning CIS women too.
(03:24):
This isn't true. This isn't real, or at least it's
only real if you accept a definition of CIS women
that is meaningless and includes biological males. So the truth
is that what they are doing is there. Potentially this policy,
if it goes through, would prohibit biologically male people from
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competing in women's sports, so that would include trans women,
but it would also include some people. And the most
famous example of this is the boxer Iman Khalif who
aren't trans in the traditional sense because they appear female
on the extent they have external female sex organs and
that kind of thing. But they are genetically male because
(04:05):
they have an inner sex condition, a difference of sexual development,
a rare genetic condition, basically, but they are genetically male.
They are x Y chromosome or some other variation. It
gets very complicated and scientific, but basically the policy would
ban people who are genetically male, and that would include
CIS women in the sense that these people were assigned
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female at birth incorrectly by doctors and then still identify
as females. So under this definition of CIS, which has
never met anything, then you're banning SIS women. No, the
truth is they're banning males, biological genetic males from women's sports.
That's all that's happening here, and there is no remotely
coherent way to reframe that as an attack on women's
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rights or as excluding and punishing CIS women who look
to math, skill in or anything of the sort. They're
not being tested for their hormone levels. This is not
what would happen. They would be tested for their genetic sex.
That's all we're talking about here, and God forbid you
do that so you don't have situations like Iman Khalif,
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who again is not a trans woman, but it is
genetically male beating the crap out of women in boxing
and just destroying the competition and winning Olympic gold. Clearly,
that is insane and unfair and challenges the legitimacy and
integrity of women's sports. So it makes a lot of
sense that the Olympics would take this step, but of
course they don't want to actually argue or engage with
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what's really happening, so they concoct an imaginary version of
it to get all worked up about and get people
up in arms. And it actually gets worse with the
second video because the second video is from a supposed
journalist under the desk Canoes, a TikTok famous journalist who
spreads tons of woke misinformation. And we're gonna get into it,
(06:00):
but first, guys, do make sure subscribe to with the
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one of those is in the description. Now, guys, let's
take a second and look at under the Desk News's
(06:21):
a video about all this, which I'm sure is going
to be totally accurate and normal and not at all
hysterical or deranged. Let's look.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
The Olympics has made a move to ban trans women
and CIS female athletes with quote male levels of testosterone
from competing. This new rule could go into effect as
early as February of twenty twenty six, when the Winter
Olympics will be held in Italy. Now, transgender women not
being allowed to compete in the women's category. Let's put
that aside for just one quick second. Let's talk about
the idea that testosterone is what makes you male or female.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, we can talk about that idea. However, you are
misrevers ing or not being accurate or honest if you're
claiming that that is what the Olympic committee is doing.
They may be prohibiting women with unnaturally high levels of testosterone,
but not because of their testosterone levels, but because they're
genetically male. That is the exclusion criteria. Again, you're just
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parroting misinformation here.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
You male or female. Now, it's worth noting that they
are not putting the same rules in place for men,
saying that men can't compete if they have higher levels
of estrogen or.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Men huh, I can't take these people seriously. Why would
that be? Why would they not enact these same rules
for men and worry about their estrogen levels? Huh? It's
almost because testosterone would make you more competitive in sports
and provide an unfair advantage, but estrogen wouldn't do the
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same for male. You know, why do I have to
explain basic biology to the follow the science crowd over
and over and over again, but they still refuse to
get it. It's actually it's kind of maddening.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Sometimes jen or men have to fit within a certain
band of testosterone. The other complicating factor here is that
there is not a single test that gives you a
perfect Here's what your tea level is. It changes not
just by person and by ethnicity, but also by time
of the month.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
But you know it's great about genetic sex testing doesn't
change can be done with a cheek swab. Actually, so
again we're just spreading misinformation and trying to muddy the
waters here to cast doubt on an incredibly common sensical policy. Month.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Your testosterone levels may be lower during your period and
higher at other points, So like, what are you going
to test every single day and take an average. Naturally,
African American women and Native Hawaiians have higher levels of testosterone.
This is what we said when we warned people that
the attempt to ban trans people from sports would not
end with trans people.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
So this is dishonest and maddening for a couple of reasons,
Because there is no such thing, and I've made this
point over and over again as an attempt to ban
trans people from sports. They're allowed to compete, but they
just have to compete according to their biological sex, not
their self identity. That's what we're talking about. Nobody's saying
this should just be point blank banished from athletics. That
(09:22):
would be cool. I've also said that it personally, at
least for me, doesn't bother me if trans men who
are biologically female compete in the male category, because they're
only putting themselves at a disadvantage. But this idea that
it's not going to stop at trans people, it will
also affect non trans people is not really true in
the sense that the only people who will be excluded
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by this policy are people who are biologically or genetically male,
so by definition that doesn't include women or females, and
it's the female sport. Am I just missing the part
that's supposed to be so horrifyingly controversial or problematic about that?
It just going over my head. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
And it's honestly just a shame that we are still
doing this. Gender tests like this inevitably lead to genital inspections,
and that shit creeps me out. Okay, haven't we seen
enough sex abuse in athletics? Do you really want your
middle school daughter who just wants to play softball with
her friends to have to undergo a genital exam? And
who does those exams? The coaches, the school nurse.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
No, this bothers me because it is such dishonest fear
mongering and propaganda. No, you can do sex testing with
a cheek swab people and then send it away and
it will come back and let you know the chromosome
situation of that athlete or individual. And as far as
the high school level, which is not what we're talking
about here, athletes already have to get physicals. Physicals are
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performed by doctors, and yes, it is appropriate and actually
literally required that doctors in respect your genitals as part
of your physical to make sure that you are developing
and there are no issues and you're going through the
puberty process in the typical way. And so yeah, your
doctor is going to know what sex you are and
it won't actually be no, but no coaches or nurses
(11:16):
are going to be inspecting generally. This is just shit
they made up. That's not a thing in I mean,
maybe you can find one crazy example somewhere of some
school that did that, but they were being stupid and
not actually following the basic policies of common sense that
can easily be implemented with something like this. So you
are just misleading people to sew, discord and panic about
(11:39):
what is fundamentally just like an utterly uncontroversial and common
sense win for sanity at the Olympics with these new rules,
and people are just eating it up. I want to
read you a couple of comments from this under the
desk newsperson also not testing male athletes because misogyny says
men are naturally superior apps fleets and women aren't a threat.
(12:02):
That comment is liked by the creator today I learned
that biology is misogyny. I guess, I don't know. If
you want to just pretend that the only reason men
are stronger or faster than women in most contexts is
because of misogyny, you can do that, but it's not
going to be true, like reality exists. I don't know
(12:22):
what to tell you if the de Lulu is showing
and it's off the charts with these people in this
comment section, but just thousands upon thousands of impressionable young
minds are eating it up. The next one, why is
it only women's bodies that are legislated slash regulated? It's
the very definition of discrimination. This one is funny to
me on a couple levels because one, it's like, literally
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not women's bodies that are being regulated in the sense
of being kept out of the sport, and those would
be male bodies that are being kept out of the sport.
But also it's like it's the definition of discrimination. No,
it's preserving the integrity of the women's competition, so that
female athletes have opportunities to compete. Because if you just
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had it all be one, free for all. I mean,
if that's what y'all feminists really want, we can talk
about it, but it's not going to go well for
the female athletes, okay, and so I don't know. These
people just seem determined to not get it. Another person
commented as a woman with high testosterone due to PCOS,
it's like being told you're not a real woman if
you don't fall within these parameters, which is insane liked
(13:27):
again by the creator. Thankfully, no one is actually saying this.
What they're saying is that if you are genetically male,
then you are genetically male and shouldn't compete in women's sports.
Nobody's saying that having a higher than usual testosterone level
makes you not a woman. That's not a thing. But
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this is the problem. Disinformation or misinformation being spread by
these TikTokers convinces thousands upon thousands of people of things
that upset them that literally aren't true and aren't happening.
Other than that, though they're doing amazing, I mean, the
discourse on TikTok really seems just dedicated to misunderstanding and
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miseducating people about even the most uncontroversial things. It's almost impressive. Really, Well,
what do you guys think? Let me know in the
comments makes your subscribed if you aren't yet hit the
like button and all of that. Up next, we got
to talk about a controversy that's exploding on Twitter on x.
(14:32):
I guess it's called now Right Now, involving Meghan Kelly,
the independent journalist and political commentator who listen. I got
nothing against Megan. I like Megan. I have followed her
for years throughout her kind of political and journalism journey.
But the Babylon B made a which is a conservative
satire website kind of like The Onion but for the right,
(14:55):
made a joke at Meghan Kelly's expense, and then all
hell broke loose, and unfortunately she took a stance that
I just think, objectively speaking, is pretty hypocritical with some
of the things she said in the past. So here's
the headline from Mediaite. Megan Kelly cries WTF after the
Babylon B makes the same joke she defended last year.
(15:19):
So what happened here? The context is that Megan Kelly
has defended Tucker Carlson and Candice Owens even as they
descend into conspiratorial territory, very kind of more fringe anti
Israel slash anti Semitic territory. We can get into that
and listen, that's a separate question. The Babylon Bee, though,
(15:41):
wanted to make a joke about it. So what they
did is they made a joke referencing the attack that
Israel did on Hezbollah and its supporters where it detonated
their pagers, and they wrote, Meghan Kelly gets rid of
old pager just to be safe, and then it's a
picture of her and a picture of a pager. I mean, lick,
I think this is not a funny joke. I very
(16:03):
rarely actually think the Babylon b is funny, but they
do write like parody headlines, and they're clearly to me,
it was very clear what they were trying to say.
They're trying to say, Look, Megan Kelly is inching towards
being a terrorist sympathizer, right. I don't agree with that.
I don't really think that's true. I think she's entitled
to her opinion, and I don't think she's antisomitic or
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hateful at all. But at the end of the day,
it's the Babylon B. It's a joke whatever, It's not
that deep. It's certainly not a threat. However, that's how
it's been taken and interpreted by some. So Megan Kelly,
this more reporting for media. I criyton WTF. After The
Babylon B, a conservative satire website, published an article making
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the same joke about her that she didn't mind when
it was directed at Medi Hassan last year, The b
headlining question read Megan Kelly gets rid of old pager
just to be safe, likely in reference to her continued
promotion of Tucker Carlson and the friendly tax she's taken
towards kandas Ens, both of whom have been widely criticized
for what many perceive as anti Semitic rhetoric. In response,
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Kelly wrote WTF and tagged Seth Dillon, the CEO of
The Bee. Since then, the post appears to have been
taken down. So she complained about this, was outraged by it,
and then actually got the post taken down. Now, the
editor of The Bee explained his decision to remove the
(17:27):
joke and said, I, like Megan Kelly, I deleted the
joke not because it was twisted maliciously into a threat,
but because it was uncharitable to her. We'll never do
anything to appease the humorless woke right mob, and I
just think it's lame that they pulled it. I don't know.
I think stand on business and it's just a joke,
and if people are upset by it, so be it.
(17:49):
The fact that it was uncharitable to her, I agree,
but so were lots of their jokes. It sounds like
he just decided he didn't want someone as important as
Megan Kelly on the right getting mad at him or
something I don't know, or just got a lot of
angry tweets and cave and that to me is a
little bit spineless and a little bit cowardly when you're
supposed to be like a bold fear satire site. I
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don't think the joke was funny or good in the
first place, but once you publish it, don't cave to
a Twitter outrage mob, especially because they're being very dishonest.
I mean, I like Glenn Greenwald. He's an interesting guy.
I'm friendly with him, but I do totally disagree with
what he said about this. He wrote last night at
the Babylon b which should just rename itself the Tel
Aviv be threatened Megan Kelly that she'd be murdered by
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Israel for refusing to deplatform all Israel critics. As Israel
loyalists often do, they use the page or image to
pretend it was all just a joke. Yeah, I just
I don't agree with this at all. The idea that
the Babylon b article, which is literally a satire website
making a joke about her like having a pager and
becoming a terror support or whatever, is threatening to kill
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her or threatening that Israel will kill her. I don't
agree with that interpretation at all. I think it's just
a joke. I think they write stuff like that all
the time about all sorts of people. And ironically enough,
Megan Kelly herself agreed with what I just said. And
when there was an incident I think last year in
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twenty twenty four where a CNN guest who is more
conservative than pro Israel, made a joke about the journalist
Mehdi his son, a joke he said, and said, hope
your reaper doesn't go off, implying that he was like
a terrorist and might blow up. Now. I said at
the time that I found that distasteful and disrespectful to Mehdi,
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who all he had said was that he supports the
Palestinian people and I also think there's a big distinction
to be drawn between two serious journalists saying something on
a TV news show and a satire website posting something.
So I'm more comfortable with what the Bee did than
what will happen on CNN. But just in case you forgot,
here's the clip of that CNN exchange. Then I'm going
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to show you what Megan Kelly had to say say
about it, because that club is coming back to haunt
her right now after she got all up in arms
over this Babylon b joke. Let's take a look. Nobody
wants to be called Nazis. It's very inflammatory.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
But if you don't want to be called Nazis, stop.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Table people by me. I never called you.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I mean, I'm not saying her saying I'm a sort
of the Palestinians.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
I'm used to it.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Well, I hope your beeper doesn't go off.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
The thing is is that you should not know you.
I should be No.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
I did not say.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Let me talk about let me let me just.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
So you get the idea. Ryan Jardowski, that conservative panelist,
made a joke. He claimed that like, I hope your
bieber doesn't go off, and people were very upset by it.
I do think it was gross in that context to
say and do that, however, and it wasn't literally a
threat to have him killed or anything like that. I
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don't think so. And what's a really important to note
is that Megan Kelly herself was very very critical of
Mehdi Hassan from getting upset by that joke and defended
it and thought it was fine and thought they were
all just big snowflake babies about it. Let's listen to
what Megan had to say about all that.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Here's what went south. Mehdi Hassan leaned so far into
playing the victim. He reminded me of those World Cup
soccer players and their drama pretending that they're hurt so
that they can get a red cart or whatever on
somebody else.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
It was over the top.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
He deserves an Academy Award for the did you just
say you want me dead? You just said you want
me to be killed? It's obviously the beeper thing is
a reference to what Israel did to Hamas supporters and
members of Hamas, where they blew up their beepers and
in some cases blew up the men holding the beepers,
and he you were saying, if you support the Palestinians.
(22:06):
You later said you thought he said Hamas maybe he
has a beeper. I get that's the comment, but he
How do we get from that to I hope you die?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Just a quick correction. I do think Megan misspoke in
that clip. Israel did the attack against his Belah, not
against Tamas the Patro attack. But still it's just funny
to me because she clearly seemed to understand what the
joke was and that it wasn't a literal call for
violence when it was done to Mehdi Hassan in a
much more serious context than a satire website. But now
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she's outraged by it, called it out and got it
taken down, and then her friends are claiming that the
babylon be threatened her. I just find that ridiculous and hypocritical.
And while I do like Megan and there's no personal
shade to her, I just think that some people on
the right need to more thoroughly practice what they preach
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when it comes to dark humor, being okay and not
being snowflakes and not getting triggered, because it does seem
like sometimes the ones who spent years making those arguments
which I largely agreed with about the woke left are
then very quick to like get up in arms or
try to cancel people, or get triggered over jokes in
a way that I find distasteful. So my conclusion on
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the whole saga is pretty simple, Like the joke wasn't
really funny. The Babylon b I don't think they're very
good at this anymore at least or that they necessarily
should have published that. But the idea that it was
a threat or an outrage that you need to call
the manager of the Babylon be and get them to
take it down also seems laughable to me and very
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hypocritical when you mocked Mehdi Hassan for getting actually upset
about that statement or joke being made in a more
serious context, which maybe he did play the victim too much,
I don't really know, But to then yourself get outraged
over it and have all your friends throwing a fit
and then demanding that it'd be taken down, it just
seemed really hypocritical to me. And unfortunately, I just think
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this whole discourse on the right right now about Israel
and Palestine and people in different factions and groups is
becoming very unhinged and we need to have an open
and honest conversation and debate about what is the right
wing position on Israel, like what should the US's relationship
be with Israel. But the more we can stick to
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substance and the less people can play the victim and
accuse each other of things and let personal beefs take over,
the better, because this is not productive and I do
think kind of makes right wing media look very, very hypocritical.
But what do you guys think. You'll have to let
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The Olympics has made a move to band trans women
and CIS female athletes with quote male levels of testosterone
from competing.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
If that sounds fake and like something that didn't happen,
it's because it is fake and definitely did not happen.
We're going to tackle the latest fake news coming from
LGBT influencers who are not coping well with some actually
(00:27):
positive developments in the world of sports and the Olympics
and so much more on today's episode of The Bad
Versus Everyone podcast, my daily show where I take on
all the craziest ideas from across the Internet and social media,
all from an independent perspective. Like I mentioned, we got
to check in with the world of the alphabet people,
(00:49):
the Wi Fi password community, whatever you want to call them,
over on TikTok, because they're responding to a news development,
which is this reporting suggesting that the Olympic Committee will
be taking steps to restrict trans women and also intersects athletes,
so basically anybody who is genetically or biologically male from
(01:10):
competing in women's sports. I think a win for sanity,
definitely an eighty twenty issue. However, LGBT influencers are running
with a doomsday kind of panicked narrative about this that
is not real or true, and we're going to take
a listen to it up. First, we're going to hear
(01:30):
from our orange haired transgender identifying friend over on TikTok
our first video. Let's buckle up and take a listen.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
So, the Olympics is banning trans women from competing and
also CIS athletes with male levels of testosterone. And while
it sucks to see institutions such as the Olympics banning
trans women off of hysterics, I want to really point
out the fact that they are also banning cisgendered women.
The entire argument of this fucking trans sports craze is
(02:01):
that trans women have a biological advantage, right, So why
are you banning cisgendered women, if you know, because if
this like anti trans people in sports movement, is truly
about protecting the sanctity of women's sports, why are you
banning cisgendered women from sports? Like, if you're going to
(02:24):
be exclusionary for a reason, like at least hold up
to that. But also, this entire craze of banning people
from sports is just so fucking interesting to me because
at what point did we decide that sports are meant
to be fair.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
As it genuinely bewilders me that people are still doing this.
They're still beating this dead horse, clinging to this indefensible
lunacy of biologically male people in women's sports. Now, it
wasn't just this one influencer, a bunch of them took
this screenshot of a headline from a super far left
(03:04):
LGBTQ news website them and shared it, and that headline
says Olympics move to ban transwomen and CIS female athletes
with male levels of testosterone. That is what they're going with.
And they're claiming that, oh, you know, they got caught
up in this craze and now they're banning CIS women too.
(03:24):
This isn't true. This isn't real, or at least it's
only real if you accept a definition of CIS women
that is meaningless and includes biological males. So the truth
is that what they are doing is there. Potentially this policy,
if it goes through, would prohibit biologically male people from
(03:45):
competing in women's sports, so that would include trans women,
but it would also include some people. And the most
famous example of this is the boxer Iman Khalif who
aren't trans in the traditional sense because they appear female
on the extent they have external female sex organs and
that kind of thing. But they are genetically male because
(04:05):
they have an inner sex condition, a difference of sexual development,
a rare genetic condition, basically, but they are genetically male.
They are x Y chromosome or some other variation. It
gets very complicated and scientific, but basically the policy would
ban people who are genetically male, and that would include
CIS women in the sense that these people were assigned
(04:30):
female at birth incorrectly by doctors and then still identify
as females. So under this definition of CIS, which has
never met anything, then you're banning SIS women. No, the
truth is they're banning males, biological genetic males from women's sports.
That's all that's happening here, and there is no remotely
coherent way to reframe that as an attack on women's
(04:55):
rights or as excluding and punishing CIS women who look
to math, skill in or anything of the sort. They're
not being tested for their hormone levels. This is not
what would happen. They would be tested for their genetic sex.
That's all we're talking about here, and God forbid you
do that so you don't have situations like Iman Khalif,
(05:16):
who again is not a trans woman, but it is
genetically male beating the crap out of women in boxing
and just destroying the competition and winning Olympic gold. Clearly,
that is insane and unfair and challenges the legitimacy and
integrity of women's sports. So it makes a lot of
sense that the Olympics would take this step, but of
course they don't want to actually argue or engage with
(05:38):
what's really happening, so they concoct an imaginary version of
it to get all worked up about and get people
up in arms. And it actually gets worse with the
second video because the second video is from a supposed
journalist under the desk Canoes, a TikTok famous journalist who
spreads tons of woke misinformation. And we're gonna get into it,
(06:00):
but first, guys, do make sure subscribe to with the
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one of those is in the description. Now, guys, let's
take a second and look at under the Desk News's
(06:21):
a video about all this, which I'm sure is going
to be totally accurate and normal and not at all
hysterical or deranged. Let's look.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
The Olympics has made a move to ban trans women
and CIS female athletes with quote male levels of testosterone
from competing. This new rule could go into effect as
early as February of twenty twenty six, when the Winter
Olympics will be held in Italy. Now, transgender women not
being allowed to compete in the women's category. Let's put
that aside for just one quick second. Let's talk about
the idea that testosterone is what makes you male or female.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, we can talk about that idea. However, you are
misrevers ing or not being accurate or honest if you're
claiming that that is what the Olympic committee is doing.
They may be prohibiting women with unnaturally high levels of testosterone,
but not because of their testosterone levels, but because they're
genetically male. That is the exclusion criteria. Again, you're just
(07:18):
parroting misinformation here.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
You male or female. Now, it's worth noting that they
are not putting the same rules in place for men,
saying that men can't compete if they have higher levels
of estrogen or.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Men huh, I can't take these people seriously. Why would
that be? Why would they not enact these same rules
for men and worry about their estrogen levels? Huh? It's
almost because testosterone would make you more competitive in sports
and provide an unfair advantage, but estrogen wouldn't do the
(07:49):
same for male. You know, why do I have to
explain basic biology to the follow the science crowd over
and over and over again, but they still refuse to
get it. It's actually it's kind of maddening.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Sometimes jen or men have to fit within a certain
band of testosterone. The other complicating factor here is that
there is not a single test that gives you a
perfect Here's what your tea level is. It changes not
just by person and by ethnicity, but also by time
of the month.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
But you know it's great about genetic sex testing doesn't
change can be done with a cheek swab. Actually, so
again we're just spreading misinformation and trying to muddy the
waters here to cast doubt on an incredibly common sensical policy. Month.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Your testosterone levels may be lower during your period and
higher at other points, So like, what are you going
to test every single day and take an average. Naturally,
African American women and Native Hawaiians have higher levels of testosterone.
This is what we said when we warned people that
the attempt to ban trans people from sports would not
end with trans people.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
So this is dishonest and maddening for a couple of reasons,
Because there is no such thing, and I've made this
point over and over again as an attempt to ban
trans people from sports. They're allowed to compete, but they
just have to compete according to their biological sex, not
their self identity. That's what we're talking about. Nobody's saying
this should just be point blank banished from athletics. That
(09:22):
would be cool. I've also said that it personally, at
least for me, doesn't bother me if trans men who
are biologically female compete in the male category, because they're
only putting themselves at a disadvantage. But this idea that
it's not going to stop at trans people, it will
also affect non trans people is not really true in
the sense that the only people who will be excluded
(09:44):
by this policy are people who are biologically or genetically male,
so by definition that doesn't include women or females, and
it's the female sport. Am I just missing the part
that's supposed to be so horrifyingly controversial or problematic about that?
It just going over my head. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
And it's honestly just a shame that we are still
doing this. Gender tests like this inevitably lead to genital inspections,
and that shit creeps me out. Okay, haven't we seen
enough sex abuse in athletics? Do you really want your
middle school daughter who just wants to play softball with
her friends to have to undergo a genital exam? And
who does those exams? The coaches, the school nurse.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
No, this bothers me because it is such dishonest fear
mongering and propaganda. No, you can do sex testing with
a cheek swab people and then send it away and
it will come back and let you know the chromosome
situation of that athlete or individual. And as far as
the high school level, which is not what we're talking
about here, athletes already have to get physicals. Physicals are
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performed by doctors, and yes, it is appropriate and actually
literally required that doctors in respect your genitals as part
of your physical to make sure that you are developing
and there are no issues and you're going through the
puberty process in the typical way. And so yeah, your
doctor is going to know what sex you are and
it won't actually be no, but no coaches or nurses
(11:16):
are going to be inspecting generally. This is just shit
they made up. That's not a thing in I mean,
maybe you can find one crazy example somewhere of some
school that did that, but they were being stupid and
not actually following the basic policies of common sense that
can easily be implemented with something like this. So you
are just misleading people to sew, discord and panic about
(11:39):
what is fundamentally just like an utterly uncontroversial and common
sense win for sanity at the Olympics with these new rules,
and people are just eating it up. I want to
read you a couple of comments from this under the
desk newsperson also not testing male athletes because misogyny says
men are naturally superior apps fleets and women aren't a threat.
(12:02):
That comment is liked by the creator today I learned
that biology is misogyny. I guess, I don't know. If
you want to just pretend that the only reason men
are stronger or faster than women in most contexts is
because of misogyny, you can do that, but it's not
going to be true, like reality exists. I don't know
(12:22):
what to tell you if the de Lulu is showing
and it's off the charts with these people in this
comment section, but just thousands upon thousands of impressionable young
minds are eating it up. The next one, why is
it only women's bodies that are legislated slash regulated? It's
the very definition of discrimination. This one is funny to
me on a couple levels because one, it's like, literally
(12:44):
not women's bodies that are being regulated in the sense
of being kept out of the sport, and those would
be male bodies that are being kept out of the sport.
But also it's like it's the definition of discrimination. No,
it's preserving the integrity of the women's competition, so that
female athletes have opportunities to compete. Because if you just
(13:05):
had it all be one, free for all. I mean,
if that's what y'all feminists really want, we can talk
about it, but it's not going to go well for
the female athletes, okay, and so I don't know. These
people just seem determined to not get it. Another person
commented as a woman with high testosterone due to PCOS,
it's like being told you're not a real woman if
you don't fall within these parameters, which is insane liked
(13:27):
again by the creator. Thankfully, no one is actually saying this.
What they're saying is that if you are genetically male,
then you are genetically male and shouldn't compete in women's sports.
Nobody's saying that having a higher than usual testosterone level
makes you not a woman. That's not a thing. But
(13:47):
this is the problem. Disinformation or misinformation being spread by
these TikTokers convinces thousands upon thousands of people of things
that upset them that literally aren't true and aren't happening.
Other than that, though they're doing amazing, I mean, the
discourse on TikTok really seems just dedicated to misunderstanding and
(14:09):
miseducating people about even the most uncontroversial things. It's almost impressive. Really, Well,
what do you guys think? Let me know in the
comments makes your subscribed if you aren't yet hit the
like button and all of that. Up next, we got
to talk about a controversy that's exploding on Twitter on x.
(14:32):
I guess it's called now Right Now, involving Meghan Kelly,
the independent journalist and political commentator who listen. I got
nothing against Megan. I like Megan. I have followed her
for years throughout her kind of political and journalism journey.
But the Babylon B made a which is a conservative
satire website kind of like The Onion but for the right,
(14:55):
made a joke at Meghan Kelly's expense, and then all
hell broke loose, and unfortunately she took a stance that
I just think, objectively speaking, is pretty hypocritical with some
of the things she said in the past. So here's
the headline from Mediaite. Megan Kelly cries WTF after the
Babylon B makes the same joke she defended last year.
(15:19):
So what happened here? The context is that Megan Kelly
has defended Tucker Carlson and Candice Owens even as they
descend into conspiratorial territory, very kind of more fringe anti
Israel slash anti Semitic territory. We can get into that
and listen, that's a separate question. The Babylon Bee, though,
(15:41):
wanted to make a joke about it. So what they
did is they made a joke referencing the attack that
Israel did on Hezbollah and its supporters where it detonated
their pagers, and they wrote, Meghan Kelly gets rid of
old pager just to be safe, and then it's a
picture of her and a picture of a pager. I mean, lick,
I think this is not a funny joke. I very
(16:03):
rarely actually think the Babylon b is funny, but they
do write like parody headlines, and they're clearly to me,
it was very clear what they were trying to say.
They're trying to say, Look, Megan Kelly is inching towards
being a terrorist sympathizer, right. I don't agree with that.
I don't really think that's true. I think she's entitled
to her opinion, and I don't think she's antisomitic or
(16:24):
hateful at all. But at the end of the day,
it's the Babylon B. It's a joke whatever, It's not
that deep. It's certainly not a threat. However, that's how
it's been taken and interpreted by some. So Megan Kelly,
this more reporting for media. I criyton WTF. After The
Babylon B, a conservative satire website, published an article making
(16:45):
the same joke about her that she didn't mind when
it was directed at Medi Hassan last year, The b
headlining question read Megan Kelly gets rid of old pager
just to be safe, likely in reference to her continued
promotion of Tucker Carlson and the friendly tax she's taken
towards kandas Ens, both of whom have been widely criticized
for what many perceive as anti Semitic rhetoric. In response,
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Kelly wrote WTF and tagged Seth Dillon, the CEO of
The Bee. Since then, the post appears to have been
taken down. So she complained about this, was outraged by it,
and then actually got the post taken down. Now, the
editor of The Bee explained his decision to remove the
(17:27):
joke and said, I, like Megan Kelly, I deleted the
joke not because it was twisted maliciously into a threat,
but because it was uncharitable to her. We'll never do
anything to appease the humorless woke right mob, and I
just think it's lame that they pulled it. I don't know.
I think stand on business and it's just a joke,
and if people are upset by it, so be it.
(17:49):
The fact that it was uncharitable to her, I agree,
but so were lots of their jokes. It sounds like
he just decided he didn't want someone as important as
Megan Kelly on the right getting mad at him or
something I don't know, or just got a lot of
angry tweets and cave and that to me is a
little bit spineless and a little bit cowardly when you're
supposed to be like a bold fear satire site. I
(18:12):
don't think the joke was funny or good in the
first place, but once you publish it, don't cave to
a Twitter outrage mob, especially because they're being very dishonest.
I mean, I like Glenn Greenwald. He's an interesting guy.
I'm friendly with him, but I do totally disagree with
what he said about this. He wrote last night at
the Babylon b which should just rename itself the Tel
Aviv be threatened Megan Kelly that she'd be murdered by
(18:34):
Israel for refusing to deplatform all Israel critics. As Israel
loyalists often do, they use the page or image to
pretend it was all just a joke. Yeah, I just
I don't agree with this at all. The idea that
the Babylon b article, which is literally a satire website
making a joke about her like having a pager and
becoming a terror support or whatever, is threatening to kill
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her or threatening that Israel will kill her. I don't
agree with that interpretation at all. I think it's just
a joke. I think they write stuff like that all
the time about all sorts of people. And ironically enough,
Megan Kelly herself agreed with what I just said. And
when there was an incident I think last year in
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twenty twenty four where a CNN guest who is more
conservative than pro Israel, made a joke about the journalist
Mehdi his son, a joke he said, and said, hope
your reaper doesn't go off, implying that he was like
a terrorist and might blow up. Now. I said at
the time that I found that distasteful and disrespectful to Mehdi,
(19:36):
who all he had said was that he supports the
Palestinian people and I also think there's a big distinction
to be drawn between two serious journalists saying something on
a TV news show and a satire website posting something.
So I'm more comfortable with what the Bee did than
what will happen on CNN. But just in case you forgot,
here's the clip of that CNN exchange. Then I'm going
(19:58):
to show you what Megan Kelly had to say say
about it, because that club is coming back to haunt
her right now after she got all up in arms
over this Babylon b joke. Let's take a look. Nobody
wants to be called Nazis. It's very inflammatory.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
But if you don't want to be called Nazis, stop.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Table people by me. I never called you.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I mean, I'm not saying her saying I'm a sort
of the Palestinians.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
I'm used to it.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Well, I hope your beeper doesn't go off.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
The thing is is that you should not know you.
I should be No.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
I did not say.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Let me talk about let me let me just.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
So you get the idea. Ryan Jardowski, that conservative panelist,
made a joke. He claimed that like, I hope your
bieber doesn't go off, and people were very upset by it.
I do think it was gross in that context to
say and do that, however, and it wasn't literally a
threat to have him killed or anything like that. I
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don't think so. And what's a really important to note
is that Megan Kelly herself was very very critical of
Mehdi Hassan from getting upset by that joke and defended
it and thought it was fine and thought they were
all just big snowflake babies about it. Let's listen to
what Megan had to say about all that.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Here's what went south. Mehdi Hassan leaned so far into
playing the victim. He reminded me of those World Cup
soccer players and their drama pretending that they're hurt so
that they can get a red cart or whatever on
somebody else.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
It was over the top.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
He deserves an Academy Award for the did you just
say you want me dead? You just said you want
me to be killed? It's obviously the beeper thing is
a reference to what Israel did to Hamas supporters and
members of Hamas, where they blew up their beepers and
in some cases blew up the men holding the beepers,
and he you were saying, if you support the Palestinians.
(22:06):
You later said you thought he said Hamas maybe he
has a beeper. I get that's the comment, but he
How do we get from that to I hope you die?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Just a quick correction. I do think Megan misspoke in
that clip. Israel did the attack against his Belah, not
against Tamas the Patro attack. But still it's just funny
to me because she clearly seemed to understand what the
joke was and that it wasn't a literal call for
violence when it was done to Mehdi Hassan in a
much more serious context than a satire website. But now
(22:38):
she's outraged by it, called it out and got it
taken down, and then her friends are claiming that the
babylon be threatened her. I just find that ridiculous and hypocritical.
And while I do like Megan and there's no personal
shade to her, I just think that some people on
the right need to more thoroughly practice what they preach
(23:01):
when it comes to dark humor, being okay and not
being snowflakes and not getting triggered, because it does seem
like sometimes the ones who spent years making those arguments
which I largely agreed with about the woke left are
then very quick to like get up in arms or
try to cancel people, or get triggered over jokes in
a way that I find distasteful. So my conclusion on
(23:22):
the whole saga is pretty simple, Like the joke wasn't
really funny. The Babylon b I don't think they're very
good at this anymore at least or that they necessarily
should have published that. But the idea that it was
a threat or an outrage that you need to call
the manager of the Babylon be and get them to
take it down also seems laughable to me and very
(23:45):
hypocritical when you mocked Mehdi Hassan for getting actually upset
about that statement or joke being made in a more
serious context, which maybe he did play the victim too much,
I don't really know, But to then yourself get outraged
over it and have all your friends throwing a fit
and then demanding that it'd be taken down, it just
seemed really hypocritical to me. And unfortunately, I just think
(24:09):
this whole discourse on the right right now about Israel
and Palestine and people in different factions and groups is
becoming very unhinged and we need to have an open
and honest conversation and debate about what is the right
wing position on Israel, like what should the US's relationship
be with Israel. But the more we can stick to
(24:30):
substance and the less people can play the victim and
accuse each other of things and let personal beefs take over,
the better, because this is not productive and I do
think kind of makes right wing media look very, very hypocritical.
But what do you guys think. You'll have to let
(24:51):
me know in the comments below. Make sure subscribed if
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