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Jenny Finnell (00:00):
Welcome to the CRNA School Park Academy
podcast, where we have helpedcommide more than 10,000 IC
nurses on their path towards aCRNA school.
Our mission is to combineeducation, guidance, and
professional growth so you canmove comfortably towards your
dream of becoming a CRNA.
Whether you're still a nursingschool or a seasoned IC nurse,
this podcast is here for you.
(00:21):
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Without further ado, let's getinto today's show.
Dr. Harmon (01:08):
All right.
Good morning, all of you futureCRNAs.
My name is Dr.
Matthew Harmon.
I'm one of the faculty coacheshere at CSPA.
I've got uh over eight years ofexperience as a CRNA, five years
in academia, and uh, you know,have spent you know years
working on admissions andgetting people, helping people
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get into CRNA school.
So I'm very familiar with theprocess.
We're gonna have a about a15-minute QA session today, and
uh look forward to answeringsome topics.
Uh in the future, when we havethese sessions, we're gonna
highlight uh a number of toughtopics, including pharmacology,
pathophysiology, uh chemodynamicmanagement, and other core
concepts that uh you're going toneed to master for uh CRNA
(01:54):
school.
So feel free to uh ask anyquestions and we can get things
going.
Excited to spend this time withyou guys.
(02:16):
So while you're thinking of somequestions, let me touch on uh
something I get asked a lot, andthat's some maybe some
misconceptions about CRNAschool.
A lot of people think they haveto have uh perfect everything.
They think they have to have aperfect GPA, GRE, uh resume, and
truly that's not the case.
And uh whenever you are thinkingabout applying for CRNA school,
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one of the best things to do isto use programs like this, like
CRNA School Prep Academy, tohelp you get prepared to be able
to strengthen any areas thatmight not be, you know, as good
as you want them to be, and umpeople are successful all the
time.
All right, I have a firstquestion here.
How do you recommend preparingfor EI interview questions?
(03:01):
Emotional intelligence questionscan be very challenging.
One of the big things I alwaysencourage people to think about
when it comes to emotionalintelligence is what is the
interview committee, what arethey wanting to gain from asking
these questions?
And what they're wanting to gainis they're wanting to get an
insight into how you think andfunction and how well you will
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assimilate into their program.
Okay?
So with EI questions, you wantto you want to answer honest
honestly, but you need to thinkabout what will make you sound
like a team player, what willmake you uh sound confident but
not cocky.
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There's a fine line there withanesthesia.
So when it comes to preparingfor EI questions, honestly, we
have some great resources hereat CSPA.
I actually a number of us do alecture on how to prepare for
these types of questions, gotplenty of resources for that.
But one of the best ways is justpractice.
Practice those questions.
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And whenever you're in a settingor in a group of people, and I
tell the students this a lot,and uh when people are applying
to school, sometimes they'll putyou in a group setting, and
always I've got a bunch oflittle sayings.
This is one of my favorites.
Um, you've got two ears and onemouth, so you should always
listen twice as much as youtalk.
So whenever you're in groupsettings like that, what you
want to do is you want toparticipate, but you don't want
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to be the loudest person, youdon't want to dominate the
conversation, but you want tocontribute to it to show that
hey, you can contribute tothings, but you can also let
other people take the lead andyou can listen.
All right.
Okay.
I've been out of school for 15years.
Do I have to retake a scienceand math course on graduate
level?
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Depends on the program.
Um, I can say for the majorityof programs, we really do like
to see that graduate levelcourse if you've been out that
long, if your GPA is probablyless than a 3.5.
If it's above a 3.5, you mightnot need to have that.
Um, additionally, I will saystats and chemistry probably
within the last 10 years isfairly helpful.
(05:07):
And there are a number ofcolleges and online resources
where you can take uh portagelearning as one.
Certainly check with the schoolto make sure that they accept
credit from that, but any of theonline universities can give you
a pretty good stats course orchemistry course that you
prepared for school.
How many mock interviews shouldwe do before an interview?
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As many as you possibly can.
It's gonna make you better, it'sgonna make uh the interview
process seem easier, and themore practice you get, the
better you're going to be.
We do, and whenever I do Q ⁇ Asessions through um CSPA, I
always open it up.
And when people are telling,hey, I'm interviewing here in
the next couple weeks, if wehave time at the end of a
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session, I always, hey, do youwant me to ask you some
questions?
And happily to happy to askpeople questions to give them a
feel for what it might be likein the interview process.
All right.
I'm struggling to get myreferences together because I
haven't really stayed on orstayed at one place too long.
How heavily are referencesweighted?
(06:12):
It depends, honestly.
So depending on the program, allright.
But I I will say this, likeoverall 99, 98, 99% of people
are all gonna have excellentreferences.
Anytime someone doesn't have agood reference, if it's just one
that's not good, I alwaysquestion, unfortunately, does
that person not like thisindividual?
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Now, if you have I've never seenmore than one bad reference, or
maybe one that isn't a highlyrecommended, maybe you know,
recommended with reservations.
So then I question, is theresomething going on with that
individual?
You know, or is there somethingthat uh has happened in the past
and you know, maybe they thoughtthey'd give them a good
reference and they didn't?
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So references are important.
You should always have goodreferences, but as long as as
long as they're good, notheavily.
Any advice for newly admittedstudents?
Any prep ahead of time?
Yes, all right.
Um you want to buy the biggesttext.
I'm joking.
Once you're admitted, the onlything and I tell this to people
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all the time, once you'readmitted, the only thing I want
you to do is to relax.
You're gonna have three years ofstudying, you're gonna be
working so very hard.
It is full-time nonstop.
So just relax.
There is no getting ahead, thereis no rushing to do anything.
Um that's a great way to burnyourself out.
Take a vacation, stop working atleast a month before you start
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school, ideally a little bitmore, to give yourself a little
bit of a break.
It's three years full-time,year-round.
It's gonna be difficult.
Don't burn yourself out.
Do I have any experience workingwith students who have failed
out of a master's programbefore?
Uh, somewhat.
Um, actually, I I have workedwith a few students who have uh
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been unsuccessful in a CRMAprogram before and have came to
one of the programs I wasaffiliated with.
And one thing that stands outwhenever I think about students
who've maybe been unsuccessfulbefore, whenever you're in front
of the interview committee,whenever you are working with
the interview committee andtrying to um show that you want
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to do this, you want to tryagain, something has to be
different.
Okay.
So if somebody was unsuccessfulin a program before, you need to
very forwardly address thatright up front.
But tell them what you've doneto change things and how you
will be successful this time.
And that's a great time to goahead and take some graduate
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level courses, maybe go back andretake that course that you were
unsuccessful in, all right?
To do something to show that,hey, things are very, very
different.
Okay.
Um nothing should ever be heldagainst you forever when it
comes to academia.
All right.
Things happen in life.
One of the situations that Ithink of uh personally was this
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person had uh multiple familyemergencies in a semester, took
a leave of absence, came back alittle too soon, and missed a
course by maybe a point, a pointand a half overall.
And that program unfortunatelyhad a policy of fail one co one
class and you're out.
They're now practicing CRNA.
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It's very possible.
But you're gonna have to workhard to show that, hey, you can
you can do this, something'sdifferent.
That's the important part.
I applied last year in Git In.
This year I've done organicchemistry and got in a, that's
awesome.
What else is most important tohave in the resume?
So anytime that you apply to aprogram and you are waitlisted
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or don't get in, always ask forfeedback.
And when you go to reapply,things have to be different.
If you submit the exact sameletters of reference, the exact
same resume, the exact sameeverything, and nothing's
different, you're likely to notbe successful.
What we want to see from theadmissions committee standpoint
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is we want to see what isdifferent.
Attend the open houses, talk touh the program director, the
assistant director, whenever youcan.
Ask them for feedback, get thatfeedback, and do it exactly like
they say.
That's one of the best ways toshow, hey, I am way more
qualified this year.
And many times, whenever I'vesat in on interviews, um, I can
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think of one specifically in thestudent considering their final
year.
It was a rough interview thatfirst year.
They worked a year on themselvesand they came back and they had
one of the best interviews oftheir cohort.
It can be done and it's doneoften, but it does take some
work.
All right.
Any advice for newly admittedstudents?
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Uh yeah, don't don't don'toverstudy, don't overdo it, take
a vacation, enjoy, enjoy yourlife.
Because school's hard.
After interviewing and beingwaitlisted but never coming off
the wait list, what are goodways one should prepare for the
next cycle for applying with thesame school?
Ask the school for feedback, doexactly what they say.
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If they say take a class, take aclass.
If they say get morecertifications, get more
certifications.
If they say leadershipexperience, if they say work on
your interview process, doexactly what they say, stay up
to date with those individuals.
So attending an open house is agreat way.
You don't want to uh, you know,you don't want to be domineering
and like chase them down, but ina setting like that, still show
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you're interested, still keepprofessional boundaries, and
show that, hey, I'm gonna workon myself, and then show up with
a with a different resume thatis much improved and interview
better, and that's that's thebest way to get in.
And oftentimes those studentswho unfortunately, if you're if
you're waitlisted, you were soclose.
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You are so very close.
And sometimes, you know,sometimes the wait list is
really deep, sometimes it's not,sometimes you're one person
away, and unfortunately itdoesn't happen.
But those students we come backat next year are oftentimes some
of the strongest.
So I I know it's it's hard to gothrough that, but oftentimes you
are gonna be a much, much betterstudent and s and RRNA
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throughout the entire process.
Why do some programs not accepttransfer credits?
That's a great question.
Um, I get one reason, like whenit comes to transfer credits,
some programs charge the sametuition each semester, okay?
So they don't charge it basedoff of the credit hour.
So they won't accept transfercredits because they're going to
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charge the exact same.
Some will accept three or sixhours, normally a class or two,
but it truthfully it justdepends.
Um if you've attended a and thisis a this is a very niche thing,
but say you are an advancedpractitioner already and you've
achieved a DNP already.
All right, you either have tofind a postdoctoral completion
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program or or attend a DNAPprogram, all right, which is a
different degree in order to uhgo through because you can't
earn the same degree twice, eventhough it's a different
specialty.
You have to have thatpostdoctoral completion.
Um, but oftentimes thoseprograms will have a specific
track, but that's a very nichething.
And I think there's only maybetwo or three programs right now
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in the country that have thatpostdoctoral completion.
Most people will then go to aDNAP program, just so they uh
you know avoid that.
Do you know if programs careabout classes that weren't
degree level?
I took paramedic classes, didn'ttake them seriously, and had a
very poor GPA, but since thoseclasses I have a 3.8.
I would say the majority ofprograms are going to look at
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your cumulative GPA.
However, if they were classesfrom many, many years ago, not
some some programs will look atyour nursing GPA, some programs
will look at the last 60 hoursheavily.
And then if your GPA, if yourcumulative is less than a 3.5,
there's some ways to strengthenthat.
One of the best ways is to takea graduate level course to show
that, hey, I can handle graduatelevel coursework.
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But if if it was courses frommany, many years ago, that's
gonna be less important than,hey, I went to retake anatomy
and physiology and got you knowa C in it this year.
Do programs care about thoselow-level classes when it comes
to cumulative GPA?
Most of the time, yes, butthey're not gonna weigh them as
heavily.
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If it's been many years, if youand I think this is a great
example, a lot of people havedone an accelerated BSN after
they already have a bachelor'sdegree.
And in that case, one thing welook at is we really look at
that accelerated BSN and the GPArelated to that, not those first
120 hours.
But once again, is it is veryprogram dependent.
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And sometimes programs will nottell you exactly how they weigh
GPA.
I have a bachelor's BSN, MSN.
I've retaken my science classes.
My overall GPA on nursing castdoesn't reflect my recent
success with my MSN and retakeclasses.
I feel that I will get filteredout.
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The best way uh should I avoidnursing caste?
I wouldn't say avoid it.
I would a number of programs usenursing cast.
What I would do is pick three orfour programs and follow them on
Facebook, go to the open houses,and show that you are really
interested and try to get alittle bit of FaceTime with
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somebody who will be in chargeof the admission committee.
This way they know who you are.
They know whenever they'relooking through things.
Hey, oh, this is that guy thatwe talked to at Open House.
Oh, this is the guy that uhfollows us on social.
You know, this way they have aconnection to you.
Sometimes you will get filteredout by GPA.
Um, one year, one program that Iuh worked with had so many
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applicants, all right, with itwas an unusual number of people
with a high GPA.
I've never seen it before, onlyhappened one time, and it was
really hard to go throughbecause people have really,
really high GPAs.
It was what I would consider afluke oftentimes.
There's a spectrum.
But if your overall GPA isn'ttoo hot, talk to programs.
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And there are some programs outthere that um may offer like uh
a pathophysiology course orsomething that you can take and
they can see kind of how wellyou do on that for people who
maybe don't have too good of aGPA.
But I wouldn't uh I wouldn'tavoid nursing cats.
Hi, I'm uh Canada nur uhCanadian nurse.
Any information regarding uhattending CRNA school.
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Currently I have a cumulative GPof 3.4, which isn't the best,
currently taking science at themoment.
Uh GPA 4.0, any advice.
Yes, uh there's plenty ofCanadian nurses who have gone on
to become CRAs.
And I I can think of a I canthere's a program director or
assistant director I know umthat uh is from Canada that um
has been a CRNA for many, manyyears.
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So it's certainly very possible.
What I would recommend, and likeyou said, your GPA is 3.4, um
doing some things to strengthenit is perfect.
Make sure you have are youhopefully you're working in the
U.S.
um to get that ICU experience umand then certainly apply.
There are no CRNAs in Canada uhright now, and I know Canada has
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a lot of problems with uh lackof anesthesia providers, but um
and there's a a lot of need forCRNAs here in the States.
So if you go through theprogram, you will have plenty of
work, and we need CRNAs.
Do you know why nursing castedoes not include foreign
transcripts and cumulative GVAcalculations?
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Yes.
One of the things with foreigntranscripts is that oftentimes
it is hard to get a trueequivalency, all right?
Depending on what country,depending on what university.
I have seen, you know, kind of apass-fail system.
I've seen high low.
They give you a decent, theygive you a decent breakdown of
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maybe what those grades wouldmost likely represent, but it is
very challenging to get a true,you know, a true comparison.
So that is one reason whynursing gas is like that.
There are schools that suggest Itake a graduate level course
with them.
It may give me points towards myadmission rubric.
Do that.
It helps.
I know I I get into one of thoseprograms right offhand, um, and
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they have a graduate level ofpathophysiology course, it's uh
MTSA, and it's a great way.
Uh, Middle Tennessee SchoolAdvanced Teacher, you know, give
a good shout out to them.
It's a phenomenal graduate levelcourse, and it gives them
insight onto how you're gonna beas a student, and I think it's a
great thing.
I think I think you're gonna seemore programs offer something
like that uh to you know to seehow you will perform.
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Because somebody who maybedidn't have the highest GPA when
you were younger, your first fewyears in college, and you're now
doing things differently, you'renow a different person.
Take one graduate level course,show them that you can get an A
in it, and I think I think it'sa great way to for the school to
be sure on you and for you to besure on yourself.
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What are some good questions weshould ask at Open Houses or at
the end of our interview?
I think open houses is very goodfor anything that is maybe a
little less formal, um, youknow, any questions that maybe
specifically about what theydiscussed there.
At the interview, if they'veanswered every single thing, you
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can always say, you know, Imight maybe have some questions.
It was super, super thorough.
You could ask them theirfavorite part about teaching in
the program.
Um, you can ask, you know, whatcould I do to strengthen myself,
which I think is always good.
You know, anybody who can take agood constructive criticism is
going to do better.
But you don't have to askanything at the end, especially
if and I, from my standpoint, Ialways try to tell people, hey,
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this is about how long you haveto interview.
So this way people know andpeople understand.
Because sometimes we run over,sometimes we run behind, and
that makes it really hard for umfor that next person.
Other than taking uh science,what else do you recommend that
would strengthen one'sapplication?
Likewise, what would yourecommend is average number of
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ICU years needed to apply?
Good science courses.
Um, I think for I mean overallICU experience, you can start
with one year.
If you have a higher than that3.5 GPA, you already have your
CCRN, your certifications, youcan go ahead and apply.
But I would say most people aregoing to be between the two-year
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and the five-year mark, but youcan apply whenever you have the
minimum amount of experience.
There's nothing wrong with doingthat.
If you don't get in, you nowhave the experience of what that
application process is like.
I'm a nurse working at a levelone trauma center in New York
City in the STICU.
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I just hit my one-yearanniversary, including
orientation.
I'm worried that my head nurseor DON will give me a hard time.
I'm assuming writing arecommendation letter, should I
ask anyway.
Maybe a charge nurse, maybesomeone who or someone that
might know you a little bitbetter.
I wouldn't I don't know how muchinteraction you have with the
DON, but I I wouldn't think thatthey would know you well enough
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to give a good recommendationletter.
And your manager, I I've heardsome managers say I don't give a
recommendation letter untilyou've been here three years or
something along those lines, andthat's very challenging.
I don't think that's necessarilyfair, but I would see if you
could use a charge nurse orsomeone like that.
Um I'm gonna go ahead and givelike a five-minute warning and
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then uh throw those questions inand I'll try to get through
these.
My unit has 15 to 20 peopleflying for the same schools.
They're asking my manager, I'mscared to ask my manager because
she's so busy with work and nowthe volume of LOR.
Um, it it is very challenging,but uh truly a good manager
should understand normalattrition in the ICU.
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That's to be expected.
I think it's unfair to tellsomeone, hey, I'm not going to
give you a good reference for anumber of years.
But that may be your program,that may be how the hospital
does things, and like I said,you might be better off uh using
a charging or asking the school.
For cumulative GPA, does itinclude only undergraduate
degrees or does it includepostgraduate degrees too?
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Um we'll look at cumulative GPAand then we look at graduate
GPA.
Uh we normally don't mix thetwo.
So um normally cumulativeundergrad and then cumulative
graduate.
All right.
Um any other questions?
Um other things that uh I feellike are pretty relevant for
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faculty and CRNA programs.
We all love anesthesia.
That's why we're that's whywe're in education.
And programs really enjoyhelping students.
We remember what it's like.
We work really, really hard tohelp you achieve your dream,
what you want to do, where youwant to go in life.
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So I will say, as far as facultygoes, um, across all CRNA
programs, you're gonna findpeople who are really excited to
work with you and uh reallyhappy to be teaching.
What are some good graduatelevel courses to take to boost
uh your GPA?
I think pathophysiology is good.
I think if you can handle agraduate level statistics
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course, I think retaking anatomyand physiology, even at the
undergraduate level, if it'sbeen many, many years, but the
goal should be to get an A.
Don't try to take a graduatelevel chemistry course if you've
only had, you know, intro tochemistry.
I think taking uh, you know,your general one and two of
chemistry looks really good.
If you can handle the organicsequence, by all means, that
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looks really good, but it's notnecessary.
All right.
And when it comes to theinterview, be being in a good
mindset, being positive, askingfor good feedback, and being
determined to succeed, that'sthat's the most important thing.
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So if you go to an interview andyou don't get in, if you get
waitlisted, even if you don'tget invited for an interview,
you now have that experience tocarry over to make you a better
applicant, to get you know, tounderstand what the process is
like.
So every application, everyinterview, that's what's going
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to make you better.
All right.
Any other questions before wewrap up?
Would you recommend me takingOCEM one and two or grad
classes?
If you have greater than a C ingeneral chemistry one and two, I
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would take a grad level pathocourse.
But if you want, I mean, I don'tthink the organic sequence is
necessary unless that programrequires it.
As a trauma, I see university, Ialready have my CCRN and TCRN.
Do you think I should get CMC tomake my application more
competitive, or should I stickto TCRN?
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If you already have TCRN andTCRN, it's gonna look good
having your CMC.
It's not necessary by any means.
You already have more than uhone certification, but by all
means, the more you have, themore prepared you look, the
better it is.
But um if you want to be morecompetitive, get it.
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Oh, my favorite part about beinga CRNA.
Honestly, I love anesthesia.
I mean, I have a blast.
I'm I'm very fortunate.
I get to work clinically, I getto teach students in the OR, I
get to work with my ownstudents, I get to uh teach in
um an awesome anesthesiaprogram.
I work at the University ofEvansville.
I've worked, um I'm a MurrayState alumni, I've worked with
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Bellerman uh University, I'm outof Kentucky.
So I work, I I've got toexperience some awesome
programs.
We have great faculty uh in ourstate and uh the surrounding
states, and honestly, uh I feelthe Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee
area has some amazing programs.
Uh how do you feel about degreeslike F?
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I totally.
I I think um I know plenty ofpeople who have obtained their
uh family nurse practitionerafter becoming a CRNA, so they
could practice pain or thingslike that.
Um but I wouldn't go to FPschool just for your
application.
I wouldn't do that.
Um if you're already in FP,that's perfectly fine, but I
wouldn't do that.
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All right.
Any other questions before youwrap up today?
I've really enjoyed this.
It's been really fun.
Um in future sessions, like Isaid, we're gonna highlight some
topics to help support you alongyour journey.
And there are gonna be otherfaculty members that host these,
so pharmacology,pathophysiology, hemodynamic
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Dr. Harmon (01:08):
All right.
Good morning, all of you futureCRNAs.
My name is Dr.
Matthew Harmon.
I'm one of the faculty coacheshere at CSPA.
I've got uh over eight years ofexperience as a CRNA, five years
in academia, and uh, you know,have spent you know years
working on admissions andgetting people, helping people
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get into CRNA school.
So I'm very familiar with theprocess.
We're gonna have a about a15-minute QA session today, and
uh look forward to answeringsome topics.
Uh in the future, when we havethese sessions, we're gonna
highlight uh a number of toughtopics, including pharmacology,
pathophysiology, uh chemodynamicmanagement, and other core
concepts that uh you're going toneed to master for uh CRNA
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school.
So feel free to uh ask anyquestions and we can get things
going.
Excited to spend this time withyou guys.
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So while you're thinking of somequestions, let me touch on uh
something I get asked a lot, andthat's some maybe some
misconceptions about CRNAschool.
A lot of people think they haveto have uh perfect everything.
They think they have to have aperfect GPA, GRE, uh resume, and
truly that's not the case.
And uh whenever you are thinkingabout applying for CRNA school,
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one of the best things to do isto use programs like this, like
CRNA School Prep Academy, tohelp you get prepared to be able
to strengthen any areas thatmight not be, you know, as good
as you want them to be, and umpeople are successful all the
time.
All right, I have a firstquestion here.
How do you recommend preparingfor EI interview questions?
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Emotional intelligence questionscan be very challenging.
One of the big things I alwaysencourage people to think about
when it comes to emotionalintelligence is what is the
interview committee, what arethey wanting to gain from asking
these questions?
And what they're wanting to gainis they're wanting to get an
insight into how you think andfunction and how well you will
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assimilate into their program.
Okay?
So with EI questions, you wantto you want to answer honest
honestly, but you need to thinkabout what will make you sound
like a team player, what willmake you uh sound confident but
not cocky.
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There's a fine line there withanesthesia.
So when it comes to preparingfor EI questions, honestly, we
have some great resources hereat CSPA.
I actually a number of us do alecture on how to prepare for
these types of questions, gotplenty of resources for that.
But one of the best ways is justpractice.
Practice those questions.
(04:03):
And whenever you're in a settingor in a group of people, and I
tell the students this a lot,and uh when people are applying
to school, sometimes they'll putyou in a group setting, and
always I've got a bunch oflittle sayings.
This is one of my favorites.
Um, you've got two ears and onemouth, so you should always
listen twice as much as youtalk.
So whenever you're in groupsettings like that, what you
want to do is you want toparticipate, but you don't want
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to be the loudest person, youdon't want to dominate the
conversation, but you want tocontribute to it to show that
hey, you can contribute tothings, but you can also let
other people take the lead andyou can listen.
All right.
Okay.
I've been out of school for 15years.
Do I have to retake a scienceand math course on graduate
level?
(04:46):
Depends on the program.
Um, I can say for the majorityof programs, we really do like
to see that graduate levelcourse if you've been out that
long, if your GPA is probablyless than a 3.5.
If it's above a 3.5, you mightnot need to have that.
Um, additionally, I will saystats and chemistry probably
within the last 10 years isfairly helpful.
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And there are a number ofcolleges and online resources
where you can take uh portagelearning as one.
Certainly check with the schoolto make sure that they accept
credit from that, but any of theonline universities can give you
a pretty good stats course orchemistry course that you
prepared for school.
How many mock interviews shouldwe do before an interview?
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As many as you possibly can.
It's gonna make you better, it'sgonna make uh the interview
process seem easier, and themore practice you get, the
better you're going to be.
We do, and whenever I do Q ⁇ Asessions through um CSPA, I
always open it up.
And when people are telling,hey, I'm interviewing here in
the next couple weeks, if wehave time at the end of a
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session, I always, hey, do youwant me to ask you some
questions?
And happily to happy to askpeople questions to give them a
feel for what it might be likein the interview process.
All right.
I'm struggling to get myreferences together because I
haven't really stayed on orstayed at one place too long.
How heavily are referencesweighted?
(06:12):
It depends, honestly.
So depending on the program, allright.
But I I will say this, likeoverall 99, 98, 99% of people
are all gonna have excellentreferences.
Anytime someone doesn't have agood reference, if it's just one
that's not good, I alwaysquestion, unfortunately, does
that person not like thisindividual?
(06:33):
Now, if you have I've never seenmore than one bad reference, or
maybe one that isn't a highlyrecommended, maybe you know,
recommended with reservations.
So then I question, is theresomething going on with that
individual?
You know, or is there somethingthat uh has happened in the past
and you know, maybe they thoughtthey'd give them a good
reference and they didn't?
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So references are important.
You should always have goodreferences, but as long as as
long as they're good, notheavily.
Any advice for newly admittedstudents?
Any prep ahead of time?
Yes, all right.
Um you want to buy the biggesttext.
I'm joking.
Once you're admitted, the onlything and I tell this to people
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all the time, once you'readmitted, the only thing I want
you to do is to relax.
You're gonna have three years ofstudying, you're gonna be
working so very hard.
It is full-time nonstop.
So just relax.
There is no getting ahead, thereis no rushing to do anything.
Um that's a great way to burnyourself out.
Take a vacation, stop working atleast a month before you start
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school, ideally a little bitmore, to give yourself a little
bit of a break.
It's three years full-time,year-round.
It's gonna be difficult.
Don't burn yourself out.
Do I have any experience workingwith students who have failed
out of a master's programbefore?
Uh, somewhat.
Um, actually, I I have workedwith a few students who have uh
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been unsuccessful in a CRMAprogram before and have came to
one of the programs I wasaffiliated with.
And one thing that stands outwhenever I think about students
who've maybe been unsuccessfulbefore, whenever you're in front
of the interview committee,whenever you are working with
the interview committee andtrying to um show that you want
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to do this, you want to tryagain, something has to be
different.
Okay.
So if somebody was unsuccessfulin a program before, you need to
very forwardly address thatright up front.
But tell them what you've doneto change things and how you
will be successful this time.
And that's a great time to goahead and take some graduate
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level courses, maybe go back andretake that course that you were
unsuccessful in, all right?
To do something to show that,hey, things are very, very
different.
Okay.
Um nothing should ever be heldagainst you forever when it
comes to academia.
All right.
Things happen in life.
One of the situations that Ithink of uh personally was this
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person had uh multiple familyemergencies in a semester, took
a leave of absence, came back alittle too soon, and missed a
course by maybe a point, a pointand a half overall.
And that program unfortunatelyhad a policy of fail one co one
class and you're out.
They're now practicing CRNA.
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It's very possible.
But you're gonna have to workhard to show that, hey, you can
you can do this, something'sdifferent.
That's the important part.
I applied last year in Git In.
This year I've done organicchemistry and got in a, that's
awesome.
What else is most important tohave in the resume?
So anytime that you apply to aprogram and you are waitlisted
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or don't get in, always ask forfeedback.
And when you go to reapply,things have to be different.
If you submit the exact sameletters of reference, the exact
same resume, the exact sameeverything, and nothing's
different, you're likely to notbe successful.
What we want to see from theadmissions committee standpoint
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is we want to see what isdifferent.
Attend the open houses, talk touh the program director, the
assistant director, whenever youcan.
Ask them for feedback, get thatfeedback, and do it exactly like
they say.
That's one of the best ways toshow, hey, I am way more
qualified this year.
And many times, whenever I'vesat in on interviews, um, I can
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think of one specifically in thestudent considering their final
year.
It was a rough interview thatfirst year.
They worked a year on themselvesand they came back and they had
one of the best interviews oftheir cohort.
It can be done and it's doneoften, but it does take some
work.
All right.
Any advice for newly admittedstudents?
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Uh yeah, don't don't don'toverstudy, don't overdo it, take
a vacation, enjoy, enjoy yourlife.
Because school's hard.
After interviewing and beingwaitlisted but never coming off
the wait list, what are goodways one should prepare for the
next cycle for applying with thesame school?
Ask the school for feedback, doexactly what they say.
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If they say take a class, take aclass.
If they say get morecertifications, get more
certifications.
If they say leadershipexperience, if they say work on
your interview process, doexactly what they say, stay up
to date with those individuals.
So attending an open house is agreat way.
You don't want to uh, you know,you don't want to be domineering
and like chase them down, but ina setting like that, still show
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you're interested, still keepprofessional boundaries, and
show that, hey, I'm gonna workon myself, and then show up with
a with a different resume thatis much improved and interview
better, and that's that's thebest way to get in.
And oftentimes those studentswho unfortunately, if you're if
you're waitlisted, you were soclose.
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You are so very close.
And sometimes, you know,sometimes the wait list is
really deep, sometimes it's not,sometimes you're one person
away, and unfortunately itdoesn't happen.
But those students we come backat next year are oftentimes some
of the strongest.
So I I know it's it's hard to gothrough that, but oftentimes you
are gonna be a much, much betterstudent and s and RRNA
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throughout the entire process.
Why do some programs not accepttransfer credits?
That's a great question.
Um, I get one reason, like whenit comes to transfer credits,
some programs charge the sametuition each semester, okay?
So they don't charge it basedoff of the credit hour.
So they won't accept transfercredits because they're going to
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charge the exact same.
Some will accept three or sixhours, normally a class or two,
but it truthfully it justdepends.
Um if you've attended a and thisis a this is a very niche thing,
but say you are an advancedpractitioner already and you've
achieved a DNP already.
All right, you either have tofind a postdoctoral completion
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program or or attend a DNAPprogram, all right, which is a
different degree in order to uhgo through because you can't
earn the same degree twice, eventhough it's a different
specialty.
You have to have thatpostdoctoral completion.
Um, but oftentimes thoseprograms will have a specific
track, but that's a very nichething.
And I think there's only maybetwo or three programs right now
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in the country that have thatpostdoctoral completion.
Most people will then go to aDNAP program, just so they uh
you know avoid that.
Do you know if programs careabout classes that weren't
degree level?
I took paramedic classes, didn'ttake them seriously, and had a
very poor GPA, but since thoseclasses I have a 3.8.
I would say the majority ofprograms are going to look at
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your cumulative GPA.
However, if they were classesfrom many, many years ago, not
some some programs will look atyour nursing GPA, some programs
will look at the last 60 hoursheavily.
And then if your GPA, if yourcumulative is less than a 3.5,
there's some ways to strengthenthat.
One of the best ways is to takea graduate level course to show
that, hey, I can handle graduatelevel coursework.
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But if if it was courses frommany, many years ago, that's
gonna be less important than,hey, I went to retake anatomy
and physiology and got you knowa C in it this year.
Do programs care about thoselow-level classes when it comes
to cumulative GPA?
Most of the time, yes, butthey're not gonna weigh them as
heavily.
(14:26):
If it's been many years, if youand I think this is a great
example, a lot of people havedone an accelerated BSN after
they already have a bachelor'sdegree.
And in that case, one thing welook at is we really look at
that accelerated BSN and the GPArelated to that, not those first
120 hours.
But once again, is it is veryprogram dependent.
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And sometimes programs will nottell you exactly how they weigh
GPA.
I have a bachelor's BSN, MSN.
I've retaken my science classes.
My overall GPA on nursing castdoesn't reflect my recent
success with my MSN and retakeclasses.
I feel that I will get filteredout.
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The best way uh should I avoidnursing caste?
I wouldn't say avoid it.
I would a number of programs usenursing cast.
What I would do is pick three orfour programs and follow them on
Facebook, go to the open houses,and show that you are really
interested and try to get alittle bit of FaceTime with
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somebody who will be in chargeof the admission committee.
This way they know who you are.
They know whenever they'relooking through things.
Hey, oh, this is that guy thatwe talked to at Open House.
Oh, this is the guy that uhfollows us on social.
You know, this way they have aconnection to you.
Sometimes you will get filteredout by GPA.
Um, one year, one program that Iuh worked with had so many
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applicants, all right, with itwas an unusual number of people
with a high GPA.
I've never seen it before, onlyhappened one time, and it was
really hard to go throughbecause people have really,
really high GPAs.
It was what I would consider afluke oftentimes.
There's a spectrum.
But if your overall GPA isn'ttoo hot, talk to programs.
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And there are some programs outthere that um may offer like uh
a pathophysiology course orsomething that you can take and
they can see kind of how wellyou do on that for people who
maybe don't have too good of aGPA.
But I wouldn't uh I wouldn'tavoid nursing cats.
Hi, I'm uh Canada nur uhCanadian nurse.
Any information regarding uhattending CRNA school.
(16:34):
Currently I have a cumulative GPof 3.4, which isn't the best,
currently taking science at themoment.
Uh GPA 4.0, any advice.
Yes, uh there's plenty ofCanadian nurses who have gone on
to become CRAs.
And I I can think of a I canthere's a program director or
assistant director I know umthat uh is from Canada that um
has been a CRNA for many, manyyears.
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So it's certainly very possible.
What I would recommend, and likeyou said, your GPA is 3.4, um
doing some things to strengthenit is perfect.
Make sure you have are youhopefully you're working in the
U.S.
um to get that ICU experience umand then certainly apply.
There are no CRNAs in Canada uhright now, and I know Canada has
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a lot of problems with uh lackof anesthesia providers, but um
and there's a a lot of need forCRNAs here in the States.
So if you go through theprogram, you will have plenty of
work, and we need CRNAs.
Do you know why nursing castedoes not include foreign
transcripts and cumulative GVAcalculations?
(17:38):
Yes.
One of the things with foreigntranscripts is that oftentimes
it is hard to get a trueequivalency, all right?
Depending on what country,depending on what university.
I have seen, you know, kind of apass-fail system.
I've seen high low.
They give you a decent, theygive you a decent breakdown of
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maybe what those grades wouldmost likely represent, but it is
very challenging to get a true,you know, a true comparison.
So that is one reason whynursing gas is like that.
There are schools that suggest Itake a graduate level course
with them.
It may give me points towards myadmission rubric.
Do that.
It helps.
I know I I get into one of thoseprograms right offhand, um, and
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they have a graduate level ofpathophysiology course, it's uh
MTSA, and it's a great way.
Uh, Middle Tennessee SchoolAdvanced Teacher, you know, give
a good shout out to them.
It's a phenomenal graduate levelcourse, and it gives them
insight onto how you're gonna beas a student, and I think it's a
great thing.
I think I think you're gonna seemore programs offer something
like that uh to you know to seehow you will perform.
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Because somebody who maybedidn't have the highest GPA when
you were younger, your first fewyears in college, and you're now
doing things differently, you'renow a different person.
Take one graduate level course,show them that you can get an A
in it, and I think I think it'sa great way to for the school to
be sure on you and for you to besure on yourself.
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What are some good questions weshould ask at Open Houses or at
the end of our interview?
I think open houses is very goodfor anything that is maybe a
little less formal, um, youknow, any questions that maybe
specifically about what theydiscussed there.
At the interview, if they'veanswered every single thing, you
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can always say, you know, Imight maybe have some questions.
It was super, super thorough.
You could ask them theirfavorite part about teaching in
the program.
Um, you can ask, you know, whatcould I do to strengthen myself,
which I think is always good.
You know, anybody who can take agood constructive criticism is
going to do better.
But you don't have to askanything at the end, especially
if and I, from my standpoint, Ialways try to tell people, hey,
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this is about how long you haveto interview.
So this way people know andpeople understand.
Because sometimes we run over,sometimes we run behind, and
that makes it really hard for umfor that next person.
Other than taking uh science,what else do you recommend that
would strengthen one'sapplication?
Likewise, what would yourecommend is average number of
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ICU years needed to apply?
Good science courses.
Um, I think for I mean overallICU experience, you can start
with one year.
If you have a higher than that3.5 GPA, you already have your
CCRN, your certifications, youcan go ahead and apply.
But I would say most people aregoing to be between the two-year
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and the five-year mark, but youcan apply whenever you have the
minimum amount of experience.
There's nothing wrong with doingthat.
If you don't get in, you nowhave the experience of what that
application process is like.
I'm a nurse working at a levelone trauma center in New York
City in the STICU.
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I just hit my one-yearanniversary, including
orientation.
I'm worried that my head nurseor DON will give me a hard time.
I'm assuming writing arecommendation letter, should I
ask anyway.
Maybe a charge nurse, maybesomeone who or someone that
might know you a little bitbetter.
I wouldn't I don't know how muchinteraction you have with the
DON, but I I wouldn't think thatthey would know you well enough
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to give a good recommendationletter.
And your manager, I I've heardsome managers say I don't give a
recommendation letter untilyou've been here three years or
something along those lines, andthat's very challenging.
I don't think that's necessarilyfair, but I would see if you
could use a charge nurse orsomeone like that.
Um I'm gonna go ahead and givelike a five-minute warning and
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then uh throw those questions inand I'll try to get through
these.
My unit has 15 to 20 peopleflying for the same schools.
They're asking my manager, I'mscared to ask my manager because
she's so busy with work and nowthe volume of LOR.
Um, it it is very challenging,but uh truly a good manager
should understand normalattrition in the ICU.
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That's to be expected.
I think it's unfair to tellsomeone, hey, I'm not going to
give you a good reference for anumber of years.
But that may be your program,that may be how the hospital
does things, and like I said,you might be better off uh using
a charging or asking the school.
For cumulative GPA, does itinclude only undergraduate
degrees or does it includepostgraduate degrees too?
(22:21):
Um we'll look at cumulative GPAand then we look at graduate
GPA.
Uh we normally don't mix thetwo.
So um normally cumulativeundergrad and then cumulative
graduate.
All right.
Um any other questions?
Um other things that uh I feellike are pretty relevant for
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faculty and CRNA programs.
We all love anesthesia.
That's why we're that's whywe're in education.
And programs really enjoyhelping students.
We remember what it's like.
We work really, really hard tohelp you achieve your dream,
what you want to do, where youwant to go in life.
(23:10):
So I will say, as far as facultygoes, um, across all CRNA
programs, you're gonna findpeople who are really excited to
work with you and uh reallyhappy to be teaching.
What are some good graduatelevel courses to take to boost
uh your GPA?
I think pathophysiology is good.
I think if you can handle agraduate level statistics
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course, I think retaking anatomyand physiology, even at the
undergraduate level, if it'sbeen many, many years, but the
goal should be to get an A.
Don't try to take a graduatelevel chemistry course if you've
only had, you know, intro tochemistry.
I think taking uh, you know,your general one and two of
chemistry looks really good.
If you can handle the organicsequence, by all means, that
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looks really good, but it's notnecessary.
All right.
And when it comes to theinterview, be being in a good
mindset, being positive, askingfor good feedback, and being
determined to succeed, that'sthat's the most important thing.
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So if you go to an interview andyou don't get in, if you get
waitlisted, even if you don'tget invited for an interview,
you now have that experience tocarry over to make you a better
applicant, to get you know, tounderstand what the process is
like.
So every application, everyinterview, that's what's going
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to make you better.
All right.
Any other questions before wewrap up?
Would you recommend me takingOCEM one and two or grad
classes?
If you have greater than a C ingeneral chemistry one and two, I
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would take a grad level pathocourse.
But if you want, I mean, I don'tthink the organic sequence is
necessary unless that programrequires it.
As a trauma, I see university, Ialready have my CCRN and TCRN.
Do you think I should get CMC tomake my application more
competitive, or should I stickto TCRN?
(25:17):
If you already have TCRN andTCRN, it's gonna look good
having your CMC.
It's not necessary by any means.
You already have more than uhone certification, but by all
means, the more you have, themore prepared you look, the
better it is.
But um if you want to be morecompetitive, get it.
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Oh, my favorite part about beinga CRNA.
Honestly, I love anesthesia.
I mean, I have a blast.
I'm I'm very fortunate.
I get to work clinically, I getto teach students in the OR, I
get to work with my ownstudents, I get to uh teach in
um an awesome anesthesiaprogram.
I work at the University ofEvansville.
I've worked, um I'm a MurrayState alumni, I've worked with
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Bellerman uh University, I'm outof Kentucky.
So I work, I I've got toexperience some awesome
programs.
We have great faculty uh in ourstate and uh the surrounding
states, and honestly, uh I feelthe Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee
area has some amazing programs.
Uh how do you feel about degreeslike F?
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I totally.
I I think um I know plenty ofpeople who have obtained their
uh family nurse practitionerafter becoming a CRNA, so they
could practice pain or thingslike that.
Um but I wouldn't go to FPschool just for your
application.
I wouldn't do that.
Um if you're already in FP,that's perfectly fine, but I
wouldn't do that.
(26:41):
All right.
Any other questions before youwrap up today?
I've really enjoyed this.
It's been really fun.
Um in future sessions, like Isaid, we're gonna highlight some
topics to help support you alongyour journey.
And there are gonna be otherfaculty members that host these,
so pharmacology,pathophysiology, hemodynamic
(27:02):
management, and other conceptsthat are key to CRNA school.
But um before we wrap up, I wantto invite you all to join our
awesome supportive community onCircle.
So this is a space where you canconnect with other future CRAs
to get guidance from CSPA andreally stay encouraged uh in
(27:22):
your journey.
Um you'll find the link in ourbio, and we'd love to welcome
you and help keep movingforward.
And uh, I don't know if you sawon my shirt, uh, if you I want
to give uh Cynestia CRA a bigshout out.
Um, one thing I went throughwhenever I was in CRA school is
um I felt that the way we kepttrack of our cases, the way we
(27:43):
did evaluations could use a bigupdate.
And so that's been one of my uhone of my many hats that I've
worn.
I started a company, so we do uhclinical case tracking, clinical
evaluations, and all sorts ofstuff.
So we're the onlyanesthesia-specific education
software.
All right.
Thank you all very much, and Ihope you guys have a wonderful
rest of your day.
Jenny Finnell (28:04):
Thank you for joining us on the Syrian school
prep academy podcast.
We hope today's episode gave youclarity and confidence for the
road ahead.
Keep showing up for your goals,keep learning, and keep
believing what's possible foryou.
We're always rooting for you inyour future as a CRNA.
Until next time, take care.
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