Ep. 727 - Cold Weather Hunting: How to Protect and Fuel Your Dog - Ducks Unlimited Podcast

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Matt Harrison (02:57):
Hey, everyone, and welcome back to the Ducks
Limited podcast. I'm yourcohost, Matt Harrison. Joining
with us today, to my left, alsoone of our very own, Nathan
Ratchford, and our guest todayon the Ducks Limited podcast,
and also a great friend of mine,mister Carl Gunzer, is the
director of the Sporting DogGroup at Purina. We are so glad

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to have you all, mister Karl.Thank you so much for making a
trip down.
How you been?

Karl Gunzer (03:22):
I'm good. I'm good. Good to be here. I wish we were
back in a duck pond like lasttime I saw you, but

that's alright. I know. You have me I got to know
mister Carl a couple years ago.We I think that was the first
time we had ever met was atHoney Break Yeah. In Louisiana.

Yep.

And we met there, got to spend a couple days
chasing some ducks, and that wasthe beginning of our
relationship, and the rest ishistory, and he's been a great
friend of mine. And we are gonnabe talking about a little bit of
all things dogs. Mister Carl hasan incredible background that's
extremely interesting in in thisindustry, and I'm gonna let you
talk a little bit about that,and Nathan's also gonna chime

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in. He's very passionate aboutsporting dogs, and he's very
knowledgeable too, and I wantedhim to join on because I know
both of y'all know a good amountabout our wonderful sporting
dog. So before we get into allthat though, mister Carl, I just
kinda want you to give ourlisteners a little bit of a
background of kinda how you gotstarted, and also how you ended
up at the position that you'rein at Purina.

Well, I
don't know that we've got timefor, like, the whole story, but
I'll do the and I don't know howexciting or interesting it is,
but, you know, I grew up just apassionate dog guy. Like, I had
dogs and messed with dogs fromthe time I was 10, 12 years old,
training dogs for neighbors, youknow, we had our own hunting
dogs. And I went to college, Ihad a background in wildlife
management, I went to work forthe Rocky Mountain Elk

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Foundation just out of college.But the whole time I was doing
that, I was competing andtraining my Labradors. And so I
was running hunt tests andstarted doing some field trials
in Montana, and I took a week'svacation, went to California to
train with a pretty well knowntrainer out there in California,
and at the end of the week ofvacation, he offered me a job.

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I quit the Elk Foundation, movedto California, and then spent
the next you know, twenty someyears of my life training dogs.
And so I did field trials. I wasin Montana in the summer and
Texas in the winter or whereverI would sometimes go to Florida
or California or, you know,wherever there was different
circuits or different trials torun, you know. And so I loved

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it. I had a great it was a greatjob.
It was a lot of fun. I trained acouple high point derby dogs. I
trained a Canadian nationalchampion, several national
finalists in The United States,which actually the national
championship is going on rightnow today. It's the eighth
series of the national. Soanyway, I love training dogs,

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and I got to know all the folksfrom Purina and really
appreciated how much Purinasponsored the sport, how much
they did for, you know, healthand nutrition and dog care, and
I just kinda became a big fan ofthe company.
I loved And long story short,they offered me a job to come to
work in the sporting dogdivision, you know, sponsoring

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events and organizations, kindalike we do now with Ducks
Unlimited and differentnonprofits. So I did that about
thirteen years ago. I had quittraining and came to Purina and
have been here since. So

Wow.

It's it's been fun. I miss I miss training and
competing, but of course, Istill have dogs and still mess
around with dogs. I'm notcompeting right now, but, you
know, I may do it again someday.

That's awesome.

Nathan Ratchford (06:28):
What got you in Labradors to begin with,
Carl?

You know, that was just our family breed growing
up. You know, my dad was a duckhunter and, you know, I grew up
on the Chesapeake Bay and justhad labs from, you know, I could
remember. And so that's sort ofwhat we yeah. Just That's what
we had. And I don't know.
They're they're a great breed.Obviously, there's lots of great
retrievers, yeah, that was justsort of what got me going.

Did you ever really now that you can kinda
look back on your career andyour path, did you see when you
first started out with training,did you see yourself in a
position like this that you aretoday?

Not at all. I mean, not at all. I I didn't see
myself training dogs for aliving. Like, I think my mom
cried when I told her I wasquitting the UP Foundation, you
know, and, like, selling myhouse, moving to California, and
she's like, what? But, you know,that's one of those things.
And that's something that'sreally I've found universal.
When you talk to any dogtrainer, nobody thought from the

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beginning, like Yeah. That'swhat I'm gonna do for a living.
Maybe a few people that, youknow, kinda grew up in it or,
you know, there's there'sobviously a few, but a lot of
people, the story is kind oflike, you know, they had a real
job, they were doing something,they got training, they were
passionate about it, they justcouldn't get enough of it, and
it just morphed into a career.

Yeah. What does it mean for you, Carl? I
mean, obviously Purina Purina isvery active across lots of
different areas from sportingdogs to organizations like
ourselves and supporting them.But in the competition world in
particular, having been on theother side of it. Right?
Yeah. And seeing how much Purinasupports those organizations and

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and sporting dogs and the peoplebehind it, What does it mean to
you to be on the other side ofit now?

You know, whenever whenever things kinda get tough
or it feels a lot like a realjob, I think about that and I
go, you know, I'm reallyfortunate to be able to sort of,
like, give back to what I lovedand stay involved with it even
though I'm not, you know,actively competing anymore, I
still get to be around it, I getto help promote it. Yeah. I
think help make the sportbetter. You know, kind of

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Purina's mantra is, you know,people and pets are better
together. That's sort of ourcorporate philosophy.
And so things that, you know,anytime people are doing
something with their dog, it'sgood for the dog and it's good
for the person, you know. So Ithink that's part of what is
Purina's culture is to try andand nurture those sports and the

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the human dog bond.

And you've done an incredible job. I know just
through the partnership, whatPurina does for Ducks Unlimited,
y'all have been incredible.You've done a phenomenal job in,
like you said, pushing thatneedle forward for making this
sport better. You know, you'vedone a great job with We we are
we are Purina through andthrough. We truly appreciate the
partnership, you know, that wehave with you guys, and we're

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super thankful for

it.

Well, you know, working for the Rocky Mountain
Elk Foundation when I was thereyears ago, I kinda understood
the value of corporatepartnerships and what they bring
to the table. Yeah. And it's notjust money, it's yeah, of course
the money's helpful, but thosekinds of partnerships that go
across all different levels ofthe business, whether it's from
fundraising banquets to podcaststo whatever, you know, magazine

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stuff, it's it's a greatrelationship. And I think, you
know, I always Jeremy Smithalways tells me, and that maybe
he's just being nice, but that,you know, Purina really is one
of the is sort of the model forthe corporate partner. We're
involved in sustainabilityinitiatives with funding for
rice initiatives and differentthings.
So we're we're active on thesustainability. We're active

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with the volunteers Yep. Part ofthe media. So it's really fun to
be able to be across differentparts of the business. They all
are.
Yeah. Ducks Unlimited Expo.

Yeah. That's what I just thinking. DUX. Y'all had
probably the coolest setup

at DUX. Demonstrations were awesome.
Incredible.

Like, I heard so much positive feedback about
y'all setup and thedemonstrations, like Nathan
said. I thought it was a reallycool idea of how y'all, you
know, put the icebox there wherepeople could put their hand

in there see. Like, y'all

just had a lot of a lot of really neat things
there. It was right across fromour duck den, so we got to see a
lot of the interaction thaty'all had going on there.

And the questions.

Right? The questions. Yeah.

People who are, genuinely interested in in
doing more with their dog.Right? And back to that mantra,
people and dogs. Right? I mean

That's right.

People are just looking to get a little bit
better this year in the duckblind.

You know? If And anybody's listening and they
didn't go, and this is not aplug for Purina, this is a plug
for DU Expo, if you didn't go,you should go because it was it
was a lot

of fun.

Yeah. I mean, it was it was packed. There was
from educational stuff to newgear and equipment, and I don't
know. It was just it was anamazing event.

And to thank it

It had all

these years back.

I know.

I know. I mean, I I I think this upcoming year for
DUX, I don't wanna put any majorexpectations. Every like, when I
tell you the buzz as soon as DUXended this year, the buzz
already for next year were justlike it was incredible. So I
think this next year is gonna beeven a a little bit bigger of a
push too, and I'm super excited.

We're gonna have to expand the convention center.

I know. That's fine. Keep adding on to it. No.
Well, we wanna talk a little bitabout dogs.
Yeah. And a lot of our listenerseither have a dog or are
eventually gonna get a dog orknow somebody that has a dog,
and it's something that I findsuper interesting, just learning
about. So we're gonna dive intojust some questions, kinda have
conversations about, you know,some things that we've talked

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about between me and Nathan andyou just to kinda chitchat and
kinda give our listeners alittle bit of knowledge. And one
of the first things I wanna talkabout, and I think it's
something very important, and Iknow that you believe it's
important, Nathan does too, butit's nutrition, right, for the
dogs. And, of course, you knowthat that's important because
that's what purine That's right.
But how important is it for theendurance of a dog and also the

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recovery of a dog after a longday in the blind? Right? Because
there are a lot of duck hunters,you know, especially your
hardcore duck hunters, they'renot running one dog one day and
then getting another one.They're running that same dog,
and it's super important. But Iwant you to just elaborate a
little bit more on that on howimportant nutrition is for
endurance and recovery.

Yep. Well, and it's kinda like it depends. I think
the first day that you and Ihunted together, like, there was
not a lot of endurance needed.You know? I think Matt went
further than the dog trying tochase down a duck, but no.
What are you eating, man?

Chicken too.

So, you know, I think the first thing is a
reality check. Right? Are youhunting four times a year on a
Saturday and you shoot half adozen ducks maybe or something
like that? If that's the case,you don't really need to do a
lot of anything extra. But forthat guy that is a guide or
like, you know, some of thereally serious guys that are
like, so, you know, I'm gonnaI'm gonna make all 60, you know,

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or whatever that deal is, thenit becomes really important.
Yeah. Especially if it gets coldbecause that really saps the
heat. Then if they're fortunateand, you know, they have a big
group, shoot a lot of birds, thedog's working hard. So the main
thing to know is the the realfuel in food is fat. That's dogs
are preferential fat burners, sothat's that's their biggest

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source of energy.
You know, protein builds muscle,muscle mass, carbs are
definitely fuel, but the bestsource of fuel is really fat.
And so if you're gonna work adog hard, and especially if it's
cold, high fat diets are better.And and protein helps build
muscle, so you really want both.So like a thirty twenty formula

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is great if you've got ahardworking dog and you're gonna
hunt them hard. I think I evensee a bigger need for that type
of formula with your upland dogsbecause when they go out, even
if you're not getting a lot ofbirds, they're running the whole
time, you know, where waterfowldogs, you know, they could be
sitting a lot of the time, butthe cold really saps energy from

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a dog.

So That's a great point, Carl. I mean, they
in a really cold climate, youknow, our friends up in North
Dakota, they're burning energyjust shivering. Right? I mean,
shaking like this. Right?
Yeah. I mean, it just that justto stay warm because their body
needs that. Right? Yeah. So it'sa great point that, I mean, cold
weather, no matter what, you'regonna be needing that nutrition.

Yeah. That's right.

And Go ahead. Sorry.

I was gonna say, and like I said, it's it's how
much they're working. Therecovery is an interesting part.
You asked about recovering inthat, and if they are and I
guess maybe the next thingbefore that is is their body
condition, right? Like ifthey're lean, you know, dogs,
hunting dogs should be lean.They shouldn't be overweight.

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If you're gonna hunt them reallyhard all season, you might want
them, you know, coming into thehunting season with a couple
extra pounds, but not 10%overweight or something.

So I tell my wife. Yeah. I'm just getting
ready for hunting season. That'sit.

Well played. Yeah. Yeah. So there's actually this
body condition score chart. It'sa purina, you know, and it it
goes from like one to nine, andyou look at it, you look and see
if you can feel their ribs ortheir abdominal tuck or those
kind of things.
And so, you know, a little bitis having that dog maybe in

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shape before season, getting himon that higher fat diet ahead of
season. So that's another kindof misconception is a lot of
people will say, well, I'm justgonna feed them an adult formula
all year, and then once I starthunting them and they get
working hard, then I'm gonnafeed them a higher fat, higher
protein. It takes a dog, youknow, eight to twelve weeks
before their body really isutilizing that high fat diet

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Wow. To the best of its ability.So you really need to switch
that dog to the higher fat dietahead of Well before that, yeah.
Yeah. Wow. Yeah. It's kinda theway I would explain it, and some
scientists was gonna, like, rolltheir eyes, but the way I'll
explain it is if you decideyou're gonna go on a keto diet
and try to get your body intoketosis and all that, so you're

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losing weight, Like, the firstday you eat a steak, your body's
not in ketosis. Right?
You know what I mean? Like, daythe first day you say, well,
okay, I'm eating steak today.Your body has not shifted.
Correct. It's where it's drawingits energy and nutrition from,
and it's

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sort of

the same with the dogs, you know, it takes a
little while. The other maybecaution is you don't want a hard
switch from a lower fat diet toa higher fat diet. That's when,
you know, you always wannatransition diets. You shouldn't
just, you know Abruptly.Abruptly switch.
You can get away with it bettergoing from a high fat diet to a
low fat diet than you can a lowfat diet to a high fat diet.

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Take a little more time thatway. Just because it requires,
you know, different things frompancreas and all that, like, can
get pancreatitis or differentissues, loose stools, or just
not their body isn't burningthat fat perfectly yet.

Yeah. Wow. That's so interesting. You know, a lot
of the stuff you just touchedon, I can remember last year
having the podcast episode withDoctor. Ruth Ann.
Yes. A lot of the things wediscussed, I can remember one of
her points was, she said, if youreally truly think about it, dog
diet and stuff, a lot of thesame is true to a human. Right?
Now, of course, there's allkinds of, you know, factors that

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go into but exactly what youjust said, you know, if we're
gonna get on a diet or anythinglike that, you don't just go
straight into that diet, or ifyou're gonna go a fast, you
normally don't just, boom, nofood, and it's the same thing,
you know, with the dog, thethings you're feeding them
between protein, fats, it allplays a role. So just when you
do abruptly stop or you docompletely change something

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quick, it takes a minute for youYep.
To adjust and and get climate tothat.

And and just like, you know, a lot of people, and
maybe we'll get to that, I don'tknow about when to feed and and
all that, just like you wouldn'teat a big meal and then go
swimming in the pool, right, youknow, as a kid, whatever. I
mean, you don't wanna feed a dogand then go hunting right away.
Know, a lot of people say, oh,he's gonna need food to stay
warm. Well, when you feed thedog, when he eats, you know,

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blood flow goes to his stomachto digest that food and he's
he's trying to do that. If he'salso having to run, he needs
blood flow to his muscles andand to his heart and all that.
So they really don't digest wellwith a full Yeah. You know, when
they're running, or put it theother way, they they don't run
well if they're digesting food.

So You stole my next question, Paul. So, yeah.
That was the next question is,can you can can we go into a
little bit more detail on that,on maybe how how do we know that
time frame when we should feedbefore a hunt, pre hunt, and
post hunt for best energy and,you know, digestion for for our

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dogs? Like, how can we is it avisual thing we're looking for?
Is it something that we get tolearn as we, you know, are
around our dog more?
Like, how can we kinda put atime frame on that to best know
when to feed our dogs pre huntor

post Yeah. And one thing I always see come up
is, like, both the timing.Right? Mhmm. Like, how long
before or after and frequency.
Yep. Right? That's what I alwayssee. It's like, should I move it
to once a day, right, versustwice a day? So if you could
speak on those.
Two Yeah. Going off what you'resaying, Matt.

So let's think about it this way for a second.

Mhmm.

We don't want food in their stomach when they're
exercising. So now how long doesit take that food to get out of
their stomach after they'veeaten it? Well, part of that
depends on a couple of things.One is how much they ate, right?
So if they let's let's take a atypical Labrador, and for just
kind of square numbers, I'mgonna say they maybe eat a pound

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a day.
Like, if it's an activehardworking lab, I'd say four
cups a day. There's lots of themthat eat a lot less than that,
but in the middle of huntseason, you're probably gonna be
feeding four cups a day. So thatfour cups is gonna take several
hours to get out of theirstomach. Now once it's out of
their stomach, it's still intheir intestines and still
they're carrying that weight andall that stuff around. It's not

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getting through their wholesystem, but at least it's out of
their stomach.
So there's been a few studiesthat show, and this is we're
gonna talk a little bit aboutwhether we should wet food or
not. There's been studies thatshow that if you have dry
kibble, it takes like, you know,just kibble, no water added to
it, it can take up to six hoursto get out of the stomach and

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into the into the intestine.Yeah. If you wet it, you know,
it should be between two andfour hours because what that
kibble helps absorb water andthat helps it digest. So I would
say kind of my minimum number istwo hours of time in between
feeding and then exercising.

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It would be better to be more.Yeah. But if you've got a dog,
especially if it's maybe gothypoglycemia or something, or
it's a really hard keeper andyou need to feed it twice a day,
you know, let's say it's a dogthat it needs six cups to to
keep its weight on when it'sreally working hard. That's
usually a young year to 18 oldmale that's being trained hard,

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worked hard. Of those dogs canbe really hard to keep weight
on, and if they need more thanlike four cups a day, I really
think it should be split, soyou're never putting too much in
their stomach at one time.
So in those cases, I would givethem maybe a couple cups in the
morning, make sure they have atleast a couple hours before they
exercise, and then feed them,you know, the majority of their

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meal in the evening. You know, Ican tell you back when I was
training, what we would do isthose dogs that needed a morning
meal, we would feed them firstthing in the morning, you know,
like 06:00, and then when we'retraining, we would we would
leave them on the truck a littlelonger before we ran them. You
know, we'd work other dogs andtry and give those guys as much
time as they could. And again,if it's one or two retrieves,

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it's not that big a deal, if,you know, they're running and
they'll the way they'll tell youis they'll break with diarrhea.
I mean, if they're running abunch, you know, and I think,
you know, you see it the most inthe bird dogs, that that stress
induced diarrhea.
I mean, you get a lot of thesebird dogs that get running and
if they're not cleaned outbefore they run, they're gonna
have diarrhea after So theystart I just think giving them

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that little bit of time in themornings helps. Ideally, I'd say
with an adult dog, not a puppy,I think up to at least a year
old, they should probably get,you know, two meals a day if
they're needing it, but I thinkideally I would say it's best to
feed once a day, but there'snothing wrong with splitting it
twice a day. Again, I would justmake sure that do the smaller

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meal in the morning and thengive them at least a couple
hours before any exercise. Wow.

And talk a little bit about how, you know,
that fat, even though it's givensome people, I mean, they're
like, oh, I need to feed them inthe morning. He needs to have
energy. Right? Talk a little bitabout how that that fat, that
long term fuel in the evening,they still have it available.

Yes. Well, here's a way to think about it. That That
food is not really available forthe muscles. So what we're we're
feeding the muscles so that theycan run, right? That food, it's
not available to the musclesuntil like twelve I mean, know,
the food in the stomach is notdoing any good.
The food that's undigested inthe intestines is not doing any
good. It's not until, you know,that food is being absorbed into

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the muscle that it really iseffective. So here's the thing
to think about, the sled dogracers, they typically will feed
their last meal twelve, fifteen,twenty hours before the race.
They're not feeding themanything the morning before the
race. After that first day ofthe race, everything else is

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ketchup and they're just tryingto keep as much food in them as
they can, but, you know, theydon't start with food in their
digestive system.
They start with everythingbroken down into the muscle.

So it's not even available till twelve
hours. Exactly. I think that'sExactly. That's really
insightful.

Yeah. Very much.

I mean,

because I feel like what you said, Nathan, a
lot of hunter not not even justhunters, trainers, hunters,
anytime you're training a dog, alot of people think, I gotta get
something in their stomach, youknow, that they can have energy
out there that can feed theirmuscles, and like you said, it's
not even until that twelve hourtimeframe that you're even
benefiting the muscles Right.From the food that you're

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feeding.

We we probably liken some of it to, you know,
you've been out there in themorning, you've been cold, you
come back and you have a warmbowl of soup or something like
and it was like, man, you feel alot better. And I'm sure that
putting a little warm liquid inthe dog and a little bite at
lunchtime or something like thatis not gonna hurt. You just
don't wanna do a big meal whereyou're putting a lot in there. I

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think it's probably moreimportant that they're drinking
staying hydrated. That'sprobably the best thing we can
do during the day is make surethat they're drinking something
because most most duck dogs Iknow, when they're hunting,
they're not interested in water,food, anything, right?

They're just hunting.

Yeah. Yeah. Kinda like, not like me. I'm probably
more

eating snacks. Yeah.

Feeding my honey buns. Hoping a bird flies by.
Honey buns. Yeah.

What is your go to snack?

Golly. I don't know. It's hard to beat a Pop
Tart in a in in a It is. Blindbag. Yeah.

But if you sit on that Pop Tart or you smush up
against it in your blind bag, godown eat it. Here you

can go. We need to go down a rabbit hole of the Pop
Tart cases I

used to have one. Our Noah friend did. Those were
incredible. A case for a PopTart hole. Wow.

Yeah. You gotta ask Jimbo about those.

Yeah. They're incredible. Now, okay. So we
talked a little bit about prehunt. Yep.
Now let's talk a little bitabout post hunt feeding.

Mhmm.

You know, I know a lot of hunters that as soon as
their dog gets back, they'relike, I gotta feed my dog. What
is typical best practice forfeeding a dog post hunt?

There could be a couple different philosophies
that are all good. Mhmm. Onething I'll say is is dogs do
well on a routine, so feedingabout the same time every day is
a good thing. They don't, youknow, they kinda know what to
expect. However, I'll tell you,it's also true that if a dog has

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been exercising, there's aperiod of time, you know, within
forty five minutes of when theywere working, that they're sort
of primed for nutrient uptakeafterwards.
So there's a lot of they used tocome out with, you know, in
fact, Purina had them, we don'thave them available now, but it
was called a Refuel bar. It waslike a glycogen replacement, and

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you would give that bar withinthirty minutes of exercise, and
that would really help glycogenreplacement. The muscles are
sort of primed to uptake that.So you could also say that if
you want to have a lot of timebetween digestion and working
again, there's nothing wrong atall with, if you do a morning

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hunt, come back and you like tofeed your dog at noon that day,
you know, you get back in fromthe hunt and feed them their
meal, I don't think that's a badstrategy at all. I think, you
know, it would maybe help withabsorption of the food and then
give them plenty of time to geteverything processed through
their system.
Yeah.

So Yeah. Wow.

I would say typically, I would probably
advocate for dogs being on asort of a regular schedule, like
whatever it is, 05:00, 06:00,07:00, they just kind of work
that way. But especially ifyou're trying to catch up, if
they're skinny, you know, givethem a a meal when you get done
Yeah. At the end of the hunt, Ithink it's not a bad idea.

Yeah. Wow. That's all so cool just to to learn.

Yeah. It's sort of common sense, but it's sort of
not. You know what I mean? Like,some of it is, and people worry
about things. It just depends.
You don't really wanna do luncha big lunch if you're gonna go
hunting in the evening, though.Like, if you're hunting in
evening, then then I would

And like you said, this may be common sense
to a lot of people, but there'salso a lot of people that are
first time dog owners that haveno idea about any practice that
they should follow as far asfeeding, as far as what to look
for when it comes to that. SoI'm sure this is benefiting
somebody. It's benefited me justlistening.

I know it's not on the list map, but we're
talking about, I mean, howimportant hydration is too,
Carl. Yeah. Do you go aboutencouraging that in a dog when
it's cold out and they reallydon't wanna take it? Do you You
bet. And if you are adding it tothe the food, how much water?
Or do you Yeah. Versus ratio tothat type of thing.

Good question. So I always I I float my dog's food
every day. So even huntingseason, think it's really
important, especially if you'relike on a trip. It does make it
a little more palatable, youknow, so warm water even more
so. So if you've got like apicky eater, you can put a
little warm water on the food,maybe mix in either some canned

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food with it, or I tend to useFortiflora, which is a
probiotic, but it tastes reallygood, so we'll add Fortiflora to
water or to their dinner.

I've done that too.

Yeah. Yeah.

I really like it when it's yeah. They do.

So, you know, I think back to kind of growing up
when we'd hunt on the ChesapeakeBay and it was saltwater and
you'd be out there, we nevereven thought about the poor
dogs, you know, where it waslike, hopefully they drink
something somewhere, they'llprobably they'll probably live
through the day, you know, maybenot. It's just, you know,

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they're pretty amazing what theycan do. Like, if you're in a
boat and, you know, you're insaltwater and you they don't
have fresh water, I wouldprobably encourage somebody to
bring fresh water now that Iknow more and try and get them
to drink a little bit of freshwater in the blind or in their
boat. But if you're hunting forthree or four hours, they're

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fine. Just make sure they getwater as soon as they get back.
The biggest time to make sure adog has water is after it eats.
About, you know, an hour to twohours after dinner, they really
need water at that time. So

why is that?

To help with the digestion of the food.

Gotcha.

You know what mean? That that food, the kibble, it
needs water to absorb.

And how much, like, when you're floating your
dog's food, how much like, areyou just getting enough to cover
or are you adding yeah.

No. I'd say, like, you might do your cereal.

VO (30:36):
You know

what I mean? That of ratio.

Now some people like more milk than other
people, but I would say

I don't eat my cereal milk.

Yeah. But it's kind of yeah. Just maybe up to

the top

of the food. You don't wanna overdo it. Yeah. And
then it gets hard for them toeat. If it's like, you know, if
it's drowned down in there, thenthey're biting through it.

Enough to float it a little bit.

Yeah. Just enough to kinda get almost to the top
of it. It's too much, you'll seethey gotta bite it, and then
there's just water everywhere.It's kind of difficult for them.

Yeah. I know, Matt, you had some other
questions on cold weather andstuff, I wanna ask while we're
kinda on these subjects andwe're talking about Fortiflora,
traveling with your dog. Yep.Right? Yes.
How do you go about Talk alittle bit about how probiotics
help with a dog's gut, right,and how dogs store stress in

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their gut, that type of thing.

You bet. I'll tell you my best story is for fifteen
years, we would go from Montanato Texas in about three days.
And we you know, when you've got24 to 36 dogs going, you know,
that trip, invariably, you'vegot dogs getting diarrhea in

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their crates and their kennels,and you're, you know, trying to
clean them out at some rest areasomewhere, you know, it's that
kind of travel with a lot ofdogs is is a lot of stress, not
only on the dog, but on the dogowner. And, you know, you're
trying to make sure thatwherever you're airing them,
they're not finding chickenbones. It's just like, it's it's
tough.
And we would invariably havedogs getting diarrhea. And the

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last three years that I wastraveling were the first three
years that Fortiflora came out.And we started before the trip
at Bob West's, who was mypredecessor, at his
recommendation, we starteddosing the dogs about three days
ahead. We put them all onFortiflora and we left them on
Fortiflora through the trip. AndI would say I went from maybe a

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half a dozen dogs starting toget diarrhea on that trip to
almost none.
Mean, like, it just aboutcompletely stopped it. So I
realized it was obviously doingsomething, and that's not a very
scientific experiment oranything else, but probably not
not a peer reviewed study.However, it was my study,

and I can tell you

It worked. I stand by it. Yeah. So

I do it for all my all my dogs when I travel
too, and I I think it makes ahuge

difference. You

know? Yep. So, yeah, that's that's good stuff
to have on handy if especiallyif you're a duck hunter who
likes to travel. Yes. Know,having some Fortiflora.

Yep. Yep. Like I

say And I

think that's an important point that you
mentioned too, priming them afew days before travel. Yes.
Because same thing, getting thatthrough their system. Yep. You
know?

Yeah. For some for most for for some dogs, travel
is not terribly stressful, but Iwould say for the majority of
dogs, it is stressful traveling.I mean, they're either confined
or, you know, bounce around,they're they're off their
routine. You know, if you had abunch of dogs, like when we
would go compete, you know,there's dogs barking and
different things going on,they're not sleeping well. So I

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truly think that putting them ona probiotic like that is super
helpful.

Yeah. Alright. We're gonna head to a break
after talking. A lot ofinformation about dogs, and
we're gonna dive right back intosome more questions for mister
Carl, and we're gonna talk aboutcold weather and how important
it is to keep a really close eyeon your dog. You're not gonna
wanna miss this, so stay tuned.
We'll be right back with you.

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Alright, and we're back. Thank you so much
for tuning back in to the DuckSonata Podcast. We're gonna get
right back to it. And we've beentalking about nutrition. It's
been some really insightful,helpful information I know to
myself and many other listeners,but we're gonna shift a little
bit from nutrition and talkabout some cold weather and what

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it offers challenge wise to dogsand some things to look for with
that.
We know duck season, typicallyspeaking, is cold weather,
especially in the Northern partof The United States, you get
some really cold, you know,temperatures. Even in the South,
we get some mornings that it's25 degrees, and it's cold,
right? And so what are somethings waterfowl hunters can

(36:57):
look for in their dog as far asfatigue goes, and as far as low
energy goes? What should they belooking for in their dog
whenever they're out hunting asfar as hunting in cold weather?

Yep. I'd say the biggest thing, just like we
start to shake and shiver, ifyou've ever seen a cold dog,
it's pretty obvious they'resitting there, you know,
shaking, shivering. Nowsometimes, so this is where it
takes a little bit of maybethoughtfulness, sometimes they
can shiver and be excited fromexcitement. You know what I
mean? Just like you might beexcited, a dog can be the same

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way, but odds are, you know, ifit's below 40 degrees or fifty
forty, the dog's wet, they'resitting there, if the water's
not getting off of them, theycan get cold.
You know, it doesn't have to bebelow freezing for a dog to get
cold. If they're in the water alot, I would really encourage
people to try and make sure theyhave some way for a dog to Get

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out of the water. Get out of thewater, get dried off. You know,
most dog stands, the water runsoff, but if, you know, like a
kennel cot or like those littlemow marsh stands or something
where when the dog's layingthere next to you, that water
can drip off and they're notsitting in water. You know,
anytime, like, if you're in apit blind and you got one the
little metal hides on the side,make sure that there's something

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that that water gets off thedog.
It really helps, you know, theymake these chamois like a or
just use a towel, but thechamois, you know, you can
squeeze it out. Yeah. I knowAvery makes them, I don't know
who else might make them, butit's a it's great. It's like, I
think they call it a dogsorber.

Yeah.

And just wipe, you know, wipe the dog off, kinda
get them dried off so that thatfur is not just matted against
And then of course, a vest.That's what I was thinking. I
mean, that's kind of maybe thefirst step, but sometimes they
can still be pretty darn coldwith a vest on. You know, you
need to reach underneath thatvest and feel like it, feel your

(38:55):
dog's belly, and you'll you'llbe able to feel, and I guess
that's probably one of the firstthings that, you know, if
they're shaking and cold, putyour hands on them and feel what
they feel like. And then ifthey're getting cold and
shivering a lot, you know,probably one of the easiest,
best things is just to get them,you know, bring a bumper or
something like that and run thema little bit, get them moving.

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It's the long swims that likesuck the cold out of them, you
know, those if they're immersedin the water for a long swim,
those swims really deplete theheat out of them. So I think
that's the biggest time to toworry about warming them back
up.

Wow. Yeah. I've been on some hunts, like you
said, where it's cold and, youknow but then I've also been on
some hunts where the dog they'llsee some ducks barking and they
need to start shaking. Yeah. Youknow, looking.

They're like,

are you cold? Yeah. Yeah. Are you that
excited? Or

I think that's where you feel them. You know
what I mean? You can kinda tellmore by putting your hands on
them. If it's really cold andyou take your hand out of your
glove and you put them on,you'll see how cold what what
they gotta

deal looking for excessive shaking. Right?
Mean, because they're gonna beshaking to some degree no matter
what. Right? They don't wantpeople getting alarmed with
that, but it's yeah.
When it's you're like, okay.

Yeah.

This is it's been shaking for thirty minutes.

Yeah. Or they start getting, like, acting a little
lethargic or they start actingYes. A little Yeah. That's for
sure. It's sort of like the it'ssort of like the heat thing, you
know, you sort of it's a scaleand they can get warm as long as
they can get cooled back off.
They can get a little cold aslong as they can get warm back
up, but if they're The only timeI've truly ever seen a dog that

(40:35):
I thought truly had hypothermiaand was in danger was it was We
were pheasant hunting in SouthDakota with somebody, and this
was a guy in our group and thedog had run, he put him back in
the crate in the back of thepickup truck, and it got cold
and the crate was kind of wet inthere. And we drove back to the

(40:58):
hotel and the guy went to getthe dog out and that dog was
literally cold. I mean, youcould tell that that dog was
hypothermic. It had been wet inthat crate. It wasn't a
Labrador, I think it was a wirehaired or something, but so I
always tell people, make surenever put them back up in a
crate wet, cold.
Yeah. I mean, don't, If they'recold, don't put them back in a

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crate. Yeah. That's where Ithink more likely something
happened because you don't haveyour eyes on them. If they're
sitting next you in the blindand they start getting
disoriented or, you know, actingreally cold or something's
weird, you'll see it.
But if they're in the back ofthat crate, you know, they had
worked all day, they got cold,you didn't think about it, they
got in the crate, you drive home

Yeah.

You know, the temperature's dropping, I think
that's where Yeah. It gets it'smore concerning.

Is there any just overall degree of weather that
you're like, no shot in taking adog in that? Like, is there a
number that

That question. How cold is too cold?

And I know that there's factors

in that. Number or is that the dog's number? My
number is about zero. I'm prettysure after zero

And I know there's factors into that. You
know? Like, if you're not gonnabe if you're hunting a dry field
and you got a great kennel hecan get in and stay warm, maybe
you could take him out a littlebit worse conditions versus if
you're gonna be in a pond that'sgot an ice eater in it and, you
know, it's keeping the wateropen, but it's negative 10.
Like, you don't wanna take yourdog out in that. But is there a

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a number that Carl Gunzer says,I'm not taking a dog?

I'm gonna do my best politician answer here, and
I'm gonna say probably not aparticular Number. Number.

Yeah. Yeah. There's a roach on a Chesapeake
Bay.

Now yeah. Here's what I'll say. What about this
number? Like, where does yourdog live? So that's why I don't
like that number.
Like, if your dog lives in yourhouse, which I'm all for, don't
don't get me wrong, but you keepit at 72 degrees

That's what he's accustomed

to. And then you go out. That's a lot different than
a dog that lives outside, livesin a kennel. Now, obviously, in
that outside kennel, he's gottahave warm bedding and stuff, but
that dog will acclimate tocolder weather just like they
acclimate to heat. You know, youguys know down here, you bring a
dog from up north and you bringit down here to dove hunt.
I mean, it's kinda like

Just like us. Yeah. I spent my first two years
here in front of an AC.

Yeah. Yeah. So so, you know, every dog is
different, but it makes a bigdifference if that dog is a
house dog or a kennel dog. Yeah.So, you know

Good answer.

Zero might be fine for that kennel dog. It might be
way too cold. It might be waytoo cold for your 72 and sunny
dog.

Yeah. Yeah. That's a good

and it's a great point too about the long
swims, you know? Like, if youdon't need to send your dog, you
know, like, it's right therelying, you know, you don't need
to have them in the water everytime. Yeah. Especially on those
really cold days. Yep.
You know, that that cold waterjust zaps

them. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

I think the best thing is if if they're, you
know, if you're doing someretrieves in that cold water is
find a way to get them warm inbetween, even get a chunk of the
wind. On the land a little bit.Yeah. Absolutely. You know, they
don't feel windchill like we do,but it still affects them.
You know what mean? It's alittle different. It's it's
still evaporating that air offof them.

Mhmm. Mhmm. Are your favorite go to routines for
recovery post hunt?

Me? I like usually a cocktail and no. No. I'm here
for the dog. Oh, okay.
No. I'm good. I think warm foodand sleep. I mean, I don't like
I said, there used to be somedifferent supplements to try and
do some glycogen replacement.There's still some brands out

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there that make it, and if youhave a dog that, you know,
you're having a hard timegetting water or weight on,
you're working them every day,would say that's worth looking
into, whether it's it's like amaltodextrin type deal.
Yeah. But that that's a goodstrategy to get energy back in a
dog that's working hard dayafter Sleep food. Yep. Yep.

Yeah. That's good. Same way with us.

Yes. Yeah.

Give me give me a biscuit. Yeah. So a fire and a
bed after I run, and I'm good togo.

Warm glass of milk. That's, yeah, that's what I
like.

Now, Alright. We talked a little bit ago about
how there are some people I'msure listen, first time dog
owners. Right? What is the mostcommon mistake you see first
time dog owners make?

I would say so dogs are situational, so there can be
dogs that can listen great in ahouse and terrible in a blind or
great in a blind and terrible ina house, but I would say
overall, dogs like things to beconsistent. And I think, you
know, people think abouttraining and they think about

(45:47):
taking the dog out with a bunchof bumpers and throwing marks or
working on stating this in thefield, and that's what they
perceive as training. But everytime they're interacting with
that dog that lives in theirhouse, they're training. And so
you can get a lot done whenyou're not training by making a
dog go to a place, making itwait before you open the door,
making it be quiet, making itwait before you feed it, those

(46:09):
kind of things. And I think alot of people think of training
as a specific

Formal thing.

Formal job and it really it's more of a it's a
lifestyle. It's it's it's, youknow

100%.

Yeah. It's all the time. So I think maybe that's
the the biggest thing. I'm not ahuge fan of, like, what I call
mindless exercise, so I don'tpersonally, I never liked fun
bumpers. I think, a, I've seen alot of dogs, good ones, get
hurt, shoulders, ankle, youknow, wrist, whatever, because a

(46:45):
fun bumper, they just rip outthere and grab it and turn and
do things, and so I thinkstructured fun and always making
the dog do something to getsomething.
I mean, that's and dogs lovethat. Like, it's, you know, it's
chaining. It's Pavlov's dogs.It's it's the way their little

(47:07):
minds work is do something toget something. And once they
have that, like, all the funhappens through you.
Yeah. It's not going out hereand sniffing and chasing other
dogs. It's like, oh, wait aminute, Matt gives me fun, you
know?

Yeah.

Nathan gives me fun. And so they become tuned in
with you. And so I think kind ofthe biggest thing is just
focusing on training and notjust everyday life.

VO (47:29):
Yeah.

Yep. And I think people underestimate how
much those fun bumpers can bringback their steadiness too. You
know? Yeah. Like, they're usedto just three seconds and name
and every retrieve is mine andblah blah blah, and dogs just
you'll see that steadiness slip.
Yep. You know?

Yep. I would rather just make them do something
every time, be steady everytime, you know, have them sit,
throw the bumper, call them toyou, then go get it, or just
different things so that itdoesn't become a routine, if it
just becomes mindlessexcitement. And you see that in,
you know, you ever watch likefly ball or fast cat or some of

(48:09):
those deals? It's justendorphin. Like that dog is just
in full out prey chase.
It's not really thinkinganymore, it's

just- Reacting.

Reacting. Yeah.

And as a result, you're not challenging
the dog too.

Right. There's no mental aspect to it, it's only
physical. Exactly. And, youknow, I have started riding
horses now is what I've beencompeting in and messing with,
and if ever there was a case ofneeding to stay into their mind.
Yep.
You know, you learn that withthe horses too of, you know,
it's kind of like the old joke,if your horse is having fun, you
probably aren't. It's kind ofthat way, the dogs can have fun,

(48:45):
but it still should bestructured fun.

Yeah. Yeah. And you get a, you know, a
Labrador from a good huntingline, and you do that too much.
I mean, lot people, like, oh,just dog needs exercise. That is
just yeah.
I mean, you hear that all

the time. That's exactly

And you'll have a dog who's way more
stimulated all the time becauseto your point, it's just that
compulsion, like, oh, retrieve,retrieve, retrieve. Yes. And
there's no thought behind it.And as a result, I mean, there's
no mental fatigue, which is soimportant, right? Yep.
A dog like, if you challenge adog with a retrieve that they
have to really think aboutnavigating cover or maintaining

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a line or whatever, you'll seethe dog you could do way less,
right, as far as time, and yourdog will be exhausted.

I could not agree with you more.

You know? Yeah.

I don't think I could put it any better either.
That's exactly right.

Yeah. Something I'm learning now with
my my one year old.

Child or Chesapeake?

Lav. Oh,

man. Well, we've thrown some hard questions at
you. Got a couple fun questionshere from the end of the
podcast. You've been around thegame a long time, seen a lot of
good dogs. What is the mostunforgettable dog that you've
ever worked with or trained?
There's gotta be one. Tough one.

There's a couple. Like, there's

a Come on.

There's gotta Alright. Be

Probably man, I don't know. There's been it's
not many great ones, but there'sa couple. The one dog, his name
was Bowie. He actually sired anational field champion. He was
not one.
He never finished a national. Hebroke in the night series of a
national one time in really goodshape, but he was really just an
amazing marker. Like, he hecould remember birds. He won his

(50:30):
first open. He had both cruiseships done, like, as a two year
old.
So he missed a lot of youngfoundational time, but he was a
phenomenal marker. Andunfortunately, between his
cruise ships and then he endedup with a bad shoulder and all
this stuff, he was kind of aphysical nightmare, but he was
just an amazing his memory wasamazing, and I'll never forget

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the first open he won. It waslike the hardest open I think
I've ever seen, and it was hisonly it was the second open to
run. So the first open, I losthim on the water blind in the
first series and then or in thethird series. And the second
open, he won.
It was in Utah, and it was justthis huge mark. No other dogs
even really came close to it,and he just stepped on it. It
was just phenomenal. So ColonelBowie's Revenge was

Colonel Bowie. Yeah. Revenge.

That's a cool other dog that actually won two
Canadian nationals, he never wona US national, NightWings Marsh
leader, they called him Guide.And

Oh, that's a cool name.

He was he was really amazing. He he was a
field champion at either two orthree, but but he was phenomenal
as well.

I've never been around a dog of that nature.

Mhmm.

This may be a dumb question.

Yeah.

You may

be like, ah.

No. But were those two dogs that you just
mentioned, were they just alltime competitors or were they
also one that was a loving dogas far as was it one you could
put in your truck and he wouldwanna ride with you and love on
you, or no, they were becauseI've heard that a lot of those
dogs that they're just they'reon this earth to do one thing,
and that is do his job.

Yep. So Buoy, he came to me basically as a mostly
kennel dog. He was in the housesome. He didn't live in our
house, you know, but he could bein the house and as he got
older, he would come in. But Ican tell you that that guide
dog, as a two and three yearold, he was in our house and he

(52:28):
would lay there just crashed outlike he was the most chill dog
ever.
So he had a switch. And then,yeah, he for sure had a switch.
Wow. And I think most of themdo. If they if they kind of are
a house dog as a young dog andthey learn that routine, they
sort of never forget it.
Know, if they're a house brokeyoung and they get it, they they
know and they like it.

And to your I mean, to what we talked about
before, if they're getting theright training. Right? Yeah.

I don't All they know is ramp, ramp,

You know?

I don't let them be an idiot in the house either.
You know what mean? One of twothings that are happening,
they're either gonna get trainedor they're gonna get kicked out.

Gotta tell us.

Yeah. But I think that's I would encourage, and,
you know, these dogs, they have,you know, you own them year
round, you get sixty days ofduck hunting or whatever you do,
you know, no matter what, evenif you field trial. Could there
be some cases that you couldargue for them like, hey, they'd
have less bad habits if theylive in a kennel. They'd be more

(53:27):
acclimated if they live in akennel, all that. I think you'd
miss so much from the wholehuman animal experience that I'm
a big advocate of All my dogslive in the house, and they may
have a kennel some too, but

I feel like it's a little bit different of a bond
when they

You bet.

Do live in

the house. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Alright. What's one piece of advice that you
would give to a first time dogowner? And you can think on that
for a second if you need to.Second's up. That's a curveball.

I forgot. I was gonna look at these questions
for you. So if you're, you know,buying a dog, a first time dog
owner, you're buying a dog,research the the puppy and don't
worry. I mean, the puppy priceis the least is the most
inexpensive thing in the wholeYep. Equation.
So, like, don't go, oh, man.There's really good breeding for

(54:15):
$2,000, but this one's 1,000, soI'm gonna buy it. Don't, You
know, buy the best puppy. Iwould absolutely do your
research, look at the parents,see what their disposition's
like, learn more about theirparents. I always said you never
really know a dog until you knowit in training.
You know, you'd see some dogs atfield trials and they could be

(54:36):
outstanding, but they took a lotof training to get there. And
there's other dogs that are justkind of easier to train, more
natural. I would say, look atthe parents if, you know, if at
all possible and try and seewhat they're like. I'll I'll
tell you another that became abig thing for me is I don't like
aggressive dogs. I mean, theyshouldn't be aggressive.

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There are some dogs that, youknow, you always have to worry
about or watch. Stay away fromthat, and, like, don't buy if a
dog's sire or whatever showsaggressive tendencies, whatever
the breed, that's not somethingyou need to worry about as a
hunting dog. You're gonna gohunting with other friends, be
around other dogs. That's just a

Especially if you're a first time dog. Yeah. I
feel like having one that wasaggressive would be a whole
different

It's rough.

Learning curve. Yeah.

So it's hard. So amazingly, I couldn't tell you
the last time that I got a dogthat didn't have enough retrieve
drive. Like, if you buy a dogfrom field trial lines, and and
I never had British dogs, I onlydid US field trials. I have
trained a few British dogs sincethen. All of them have had

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drive, maybe not as much, butthey've all had plenty of drive
to be hunting dogs.
So I don't see that as as big ofa deal as it used to be. Just
seems like they all tend to

Yeah.

Have that job.

Yeah. And maybe don't overdo it, you know, do
more little training stuff thanjust throwing bumpers and
throwing dummies and chasingwings.

This is more.

Yeah. Yeah. Don't shoot over them when they're
puppies, you know. Yeah. Do doall that stuff Yeah.

Could spend the next

half hour. Right? Yeah. That yeah. That's a rabbit
hole.
But I guess, you know, ifthey're gonna be hunting dog,
they gotta be able to do twothings. They gotta like birds
and they can't be gun shy. Sodon't mess that up from the
start. Right? Yeah.
Be careful not to make them gunshy and do a proper introduction
to birds because that's alifelong deal right there.

Yeah. And one thing I think first timers could
get a little hung up on istending to look to others.
Right? Like they look at theirfriend who's got a four month
old doing, you know, a 100 yardmemory or something like Every
dog is different. You bet.
You know? So just enjoy it.Don't put that pressure on

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yourself, you know? Absolutely.Just think you get too much.
It's the same thing with peopleon social media. Like, it's
you're looking at your friendsdoing this stuff, and that's
just focus on the dog in frontof you, you know, enjoy them.
Yeah.

That's yeah. They don't I look I look at those
same pile of pictures, and I go,man, I I get about one of those
a year and

about yeah. Yeah.

Don't post the other 30

hunts. Yeah. No. Well, Carl, thank you so much
Yeah. For hopping on thepodcast.
Nathan, thank you for joining usas and also thank you so much to
our producer, Chris Isaac, formaking all this happen, and we
wanna thank you to our listenersfor taking time to listen to the
Ducks Unlimited podcast. Buty'all stay tuned because here in

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Thanksgiving that is talkingabout gear, Good holiday
Thanksgiving memories. You won'twanna miss it. Make sure you
stay tuned to the DucksUnlimited podcast.

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