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January 28, 2026 19 mins

What happens when federal leaders stop waiting for permission to fix what's broken?

On this episode of the FedUpward podcast, host Love Rutledge is joined by Maureen Klovers and April Mohr Harding, co-founders of We the Doers, a new movement created by current and former federal executives determined to reform government where policy meets reality.

Drawing on decades of experience across agencies like Treasury, USDA, IRS, and the intelligence community, Maureen and April break down the real barriers to effective government—from broken budget cycles and outdated performance metrics to procurement, IT, and cultural constraints that make reform harder than it needs to be. They also discuss their newly released report, built in weeks (not years), and why the voices of "doers" are missing from most reform conversations.

Listeners will learn:

  • Why efficiency reforms often fail without operational input

  • The four foundational barriers holding government back

  • How federal employees can help shape better outcomes for the public

  • Where to read the report and get involved

Read the report and learn more at https://wethedoers.org

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