April 21, 2025 • 61 mins
Revolutionizing men's health wasn't Erica's original plan when she entered nursing. It was a personal journey that began when her husband, a Purple Heart veteran who lost his legs in Afghanistan, was failed by traditional healthcare providers. Their dismissive approach—handing out prescriptions rather than addressing root causes—sparked something in her. "When you have a testosterone level under 200 in your 20s, you're not fine," she recalls telling doctors who insisted everything was normal.
That frustration transformed into purpose. After years in critical care and trauma settings, Erica established her own practice near DuPont Circle in Washington DC, specializing in aesthetic wellness, sexual health, and men's enhancement procedures. The treatments she offers might raise eyebrows—"cocktox" injections that prevent penis retraction, girth enhancements, and testosterone therapy—but they address real needs that significantly impact men's quality of life.
What sets her practice apart isn't just the specialized treatments. It's the comprehensive approach to men's health that traditional healthcare often overlooks. "Some guys get treated for depression and put on antidepressants when really, if we correct their testosterone, they'd feel better," she explains. By operating outside insurance constraints, she treats patients based on symptoms and wellness goals rather than rigid diagnostic criteria. This approach particularly benefits firefighters, shift workers, and veterans whose healthcare needs often fall through the cracks of conventional medicine.
Beyond the clinical aspects, Erica's practice serves as a safe space where men can discuss sensitive concerns without embarrassment. "I promise you that there has not been something said to me that has been surprising," she assures, helping break down taboos that prevent many men from seeking care. Though her social media accounts occasionally attract inappropriate messages, she maintains professional boundaries while using platforms like TikTok to educate and normalize conversations about men's health.
Ready to address concerns that traditional healthcare has dismissed? Follow The District Injector on social media or visit the website to learn more about these life-changing treatments and schedule a consultation where your questions will be answered without judgment.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, it's awesome.
Based out of Washington DC, shestarted as a nurse.
She's from Florida, moved up toDC, did some contract work,
especially during COVID.
She got to pick and choose herhospitals that she worked at and
now she started her ownbusiness by the DuPont Circles.
So, erica, thank you fordealing with our ineptness and
hopping on today and tell meyour 15 minute, 15 second
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elevator pitch of who you are soI'm well.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I was born and raised in South Florida and then went
to college in New York, thenwent back to college again in
Florida and then finally went tocollege in DC and became a
nurse and then I ultimately hada critical care background and
trauma burn ultimately kind ofhow we ended up meeting.
And then I decided to do sometravel nursing before I went
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back to MP school to just getsome more experience, became an
MP and kind of reached a pointwhere I was tired of telling
people that like they weren'tgoing to make it, or family
members that their familymembers weren't going to make it
, and decided to go into moreelective services.
And then I opened my ownpractice and now have a
aesthetic wellness, sexualhealth with a focus on men
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clinic.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
All right, so let's take a couple of steps back.
Where did you go to school?
In New York and DC.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I originally went to Stony Brook, then I went to UCF,
I went to Catholic Universityof America and then Drexel
University.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
So the did you go to each college for a different
focus, like I know you're?
You're a board certified nursepractitioner now.
But what was each school'sbenefit for you, like, why did
you choose those schools?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
So initially I wanted to go to med school, or I
thought that I wanted to go tomed school.
So my first degrees were insciences.
And then, before I hit gettingready to take the MCAT, I was
like wait a second.
Doctors don't do this, thenurses are the ones that do this
.
So I finished the sciencebachelors and then immediately
went into a nursing bachelor andthen after that I worked a
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little bit and then went backfor um my master's in nursing.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Okay, Um.
So why'd you land in DC, Likewhy'd you stick around here?
Because obviously you were kindof all over the place.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Originally it was because the person that I was
dating when I was originally inNew York we kind of agreed upon
a finding a place in the city.
I was able to get a nursing oneum, and he decided he was gonna
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move.
So I actually just stayed likeI loved it and was ultimately
where I'm in my home now.
I've lived here longer than Ilived in florida.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
At this point, yeah, I was gonna say it seems like
the opposite.
You know, usually people movefrom this area down to Florida,
but you know there's pros andcons, I think, with both of
those locales.
So was your intent to justbecome?
I say just like, was your goalto become a nurse practitioner
and like, go that career path oris starting your own practice
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or a clinic always kind of beenin the back of your mind?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
No, like anyone who knows me, I was like I don't
want to own a business I'mtotally fine with.
We started seven at thehospital I check out, I go home,
I leave it at the hospital andcome back.
It just ultimately came to bebecause I was just finding like
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I wanted to provide a certainlevel or standard of care or
offer certain things, and theonly way to do that was through
having my own practice and ontop of it, certain states allow
for autonomy.
So in DC I have full practiceauthority so I don't have to
function under the supervisionof a doctor, so I can operate
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how I would like to.
And then I also do that in 20something other states that have
full authority, and then I alsoam licensed in I'm almost
licensed in 46 states as ofright now.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Congratulations.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, yeah that that sounds like a lot, I mean.
I'm barely an EMT in one state,so we have to function under a
medical director, but anyways,so what?
What is the advantage then?
I guess I should back up.
But what?
What is the advantage then?
I guess I should back up.
But what is the advantage tofunctioning in 46 states or even
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20 states, when I would imaginewhat you do is pretty much
serving a local market that has,I guess my assumption is the
disposable income to do electiveprocedures at this point and
not necessarily covered byinsurance.
Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
and not necessarily covered by insurance.
Is that correct, Correct?
So I do not.
Um, I do not collaborate withinsurances.
I do operate like a cash-basedonly practice.
A lot of the services I offeranyway would not be covered by
insurance, and the ones thatwould.
It allows me to provide myclients more time with me and
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more customized andsymptom-based out like
treatments with outcomes, asopposed to having to go kind of
into like a treatment mill, likeyour provider sees you for 10
to 15 minutes.
The next one comes in like theprovider's forced to see 75
people in a day where I can seefive people and give them my
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full attention.
So there's that.
And then being in other states,I have clients that are in
other states and I have a lot ofpeople that will fly in to see
me.
It allows me to treat peoplevia telehealth, virtually
address needs for them at adistance.
But I previously got all thoselicenses because I worked for a
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nationwide company that providedmedical director coverage to
providers and in doing that Ineeded to make sure I could
operate in those states as wellif we had clients that needed me
.
So that's kind of where thatcame from.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
That makes sense.
So was the basically thecatalyst for you to kind of
change from what I'm hearing yousay is like but these are my
words, I don't want to put themin your mouth like the hospital
setting kind of felt almost morelike a business where you had
to do this, this and this andyou weren't able to treat the
patient the way you felt theyneeded treated all the time.
(07:02):
And then it just was aculmination of that and having
to tell people bad news time andtime again.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Well, leaving the hospital happened, so I was
doing my kind of private careerpart-time as I built a clientele
and then I was still in thehospital on the other side, and
so I reached the point where Icould completely leave.
When I reached the point that Icould completely leave, covid
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ultimately came and nothingelective was being allowed and I
stayed for probably I guessthey called it like three rounds
where we were seeing like thespikes in COVID.
(07:50):
And after that I came home oneday and I said to my husband I
was like I'm never going back,like my practice is the only
option and I'm going to make away to make it work.
Because you hit a point where,like during COVID, we were doing
things and helping people inways that like they can't train
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you for that.
This wasn't in education, itwasn't taught in school.
Like it was something we werethrown into and had to like make
decisions and support people inreal time, and no one can teach
you how to do that.
So it was just, it was tough.
It was tough.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, you got to pick your heart, like, obviously
your heart at that point wastelling people the end of life
is inevitable.
And now your heart is working20, 21 hours a day for seven
days a week.
So sometimes you just got topick your heart and see which
one's going to be the best foryou personally emotionally,
mentally, physically,spiritually, whatever, sexually
(08:50):
in this case.
Good on you.
I just want to highlight,because I know we've kind of
told you guys what whoever'slistening told you what she does
.
I'm just going to list a coupleof the treatments.
My favorite I'm going to startwith is cock talks and peptides.
She going to list a couple ofthe treatments.
My favorite I'm going to startwith is cocktox and peptides.
She does salite, derma fillers,hair restoration, spa facials,
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vitamin boost, men's sexualhealth, skincare, skin
tightening labs, weightmanagement, which I've seen you
post a lot in your TikTok about,and women's sexual health.
She also for the focus on themale stuff.
It's treatment for men is agirth enhancement and male
enhancement.
So I know there's a lot ofcause, just cause, watching your
TikTok and knowing you for thelast decade, like I know that
you get a lot of um, a lot ofquestions about this Um, I was
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showing the guys at thefirehouse that I'm doing a
podcast with you and I was like,yeah, look at that.
There's on her page on TikTok.
There's cock talks and there'sinjections and fillers and
everybody I work with is likewhat in the sweet chocolate,
jesus, is that?
So can you?
I mean your.
Your focus is is what are yourtop three or top five focuses
doing this stuff?
Now?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
So now my main focus.
So I do have the aesthetic sidewhere I treat women for like
their basic Botox, fillers, etcetera.
I have a whole weightmanagement clinic that I operate
.
Break it down what are what areBotox and what are fillers, et
cetera.
I have a whole weightmanagement clinic that I operate
.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Break it down.
What are Botox and what arefillers?
What are they used for?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
So neurotoxin is utilized for preventing muscle
movement.
So when people don't likecertain facial expressions or
activation of certain muscles, Iutilize the neurotoxin to stop
that.
So most people know it for liketheir frown, lines between
their brows, or like the linesaround their eyes and their
crow's feet.
Where I utilize it in otherplaces, like under the armpits,
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for sweat, I utilize it in thescrotum for men to drop their
testicles or to prevent sweatyballs.
I utilize it for men who arebald and they sweat a lot.
Put it around their head.
Um.
There's a lot of different usesfor it, um, but mine kind of
are the basic known aestheticpurposes, and then ones that are
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more taboo, that people aren'tactually aware of.
And then filler.
Of course most people are likelit think of lips or like cheek
filler or jawline.
But I utilize it as well in thefashion for enhancing male
girth, um creating length in thepenis as well, as we can create
um size, like with thetesticles, the scrotum.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
So there's different reasons let me ask you a
question.
Yes, so this is a conversationwe had in the back of the fire
truck.
When I told him that we'regoing to do an interview with
you, I was like she can make ashower into a grower and they
were like what the hell is that?
So can you kind of break downwhat you use, what it is and why
?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yes, so I use neurotoxin, which most people
know the term Botox, and Iinject it into specific muscles,
ligaments of the penis thatcause the retraction of the
penis to go back.
So the penis, the gland, thehead goes back towards the body
and inside.
So I help by relaxing thosemuscles to prevent that in and
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out.
And what it does is when werelax those muscles it allows
for more blood flow to the penis.
So that gives the relaxedlength.
So we try and get you to aplace where you're relaxed, in
that you get more of your Iguess erect length.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
But when you're flaccid your I guess erect
length, but when you're flaccid,so when you have a erection,
you go basically just from 10 toor 6 to 12, instead of like
poking out like a turtle.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
No, you will always have the same erect length.
You may develop firmererections, or it assists men who
have erectile dysfunction andhave difficulty getting blood
flow or having firmer erections,but it does not.
This specific treatment doesnot give you more length than
what you already have whenyou're erect.
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It gives you the length whenyou're flaccid.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Okay, I'm trying really hard to giggle and be
completely inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
So I'm just, I'm just completely amazed One.
I've never even heard of thisuntil about a half hour before
this show started and then Iimagine that's not one of the
procedures insurance will cover.
And then, in all seriousness,though, like this has to be a
(13:22):
super niche market.
How how many folks are, I don'tknow, on a weekly or monthly
basis getting stuff like thisdone?
I mean, this is kind of like Ithought botox was just for the
duck lips and the the foreheadand stuff, because, like I mean,
from my perspective I'm notlike the target audience
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probably, but I this this is, Imean, I would say, interesting,
but like surprising to me also,you know so, like how, how
frequently is are you doing thisprocedure all?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
day, every day, really yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
How many clients do you see a week?
Like does your, does yourpractice, see a week?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
ish, oh gosh.
It's changes every week becauseI have every appointment is
scheduled for different amountsof time, so it's based off of
the time blocks that I need foreach service.
So like, for example, I thinkyesterday I did like four male
enhancements for girth so and Ikeep them an hour and a half to
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two hours at a time, so that isultimately almost a day, but in
between I catch up on someweight management clients who
are coming in, so it's kind oflike you line them up in
different offices and you'relike you get some neurotoxin,
you get some neurotoxin, you,you get some neurotoxin, you get
some neurotoxin, you're goingto get some weight loss
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management.
No, so I have two differentrooms.
I have my waiting room and thenI have two treatment rooms and
I kind of have one set up formen and then the others are for
just like my other treatments,my quicker in and out room.
But everything's set up towhere, if I needed to do
something in each room it's thesame I can move between the two.
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I just kind of like keeping,like you have to remember,
there's women who are coming inwho don't necessarily want to
see like my penis shaped stuffedanimals or like stuffies, or
like my male anatomy figurinesor like my lamps that light up
that are the shape of a penisLike, so I keep those in like a
male anatomy figurines.
Or like my lamps that light upthat are the shape of a penis
like, so I keep those in like amale room.
And then I have the otherthings that would be for people
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who don't necessarily want tosee that in my other room.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Have you ever made the accident of putting somebody
who's like anti penis in apenis room?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I'm sure there's like in the beginning I had to keep
certain things in certain places.
So I'm sure there's people whowalked in and were like what?
And didn't say anything.
But a lot of times people comein and they'll say they're
coming just for Botox on theirface and they'll say I got lost
on your website because I didn'tknow some of these things
existed.
And it's cool because it'sstarting conversations between
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people amongst their friends,and it always takes one friend
Most of the time time at leastwith guys.
One guy will come as the guineapig of the group of the friends
, receive a treatment and thentell everybody else how it went
and then the rest will follow.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
So it's just kind of like one of those like things if
he, if mike does it, it's okayfor me to do it.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
That's what you're saying well, I think, I think in
this situation you wouldprobably be the one to come
first to then tell mike and theother guys at the firehouse how
it works, worked out, and thenthen, whether they tell you or
not, they will reach out to talkto me.
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It's separately, but becauseI'm bound by, like hip-hop,
they're not gonna know or you'renot gonna know if they come or
not we're at the firehouse.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
We discuss everything .
Let's be honest, like I'll.
I'll hear about it and they'regonna tell me the entire entire
stories and probably, uh, expandupon the truth of it.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
So, yeah, we're already you know, eight inches
down.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
So do you think that the location of the practice um
determines how busy the practiceis?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
it can.
Yes, so like I live out in thecountry, the services that I
offer are less likely to be, Iwould say, searched for.
So my practice being downtownintentionally was because that's
where my whole career was, inDC.
That's where my clients were,so I didn't want to move away
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from them.
But I have clients who fly tome from all over the world to
have these things done and Iguess really if they want to see
you bad enough, it wouldn'treally matter where your
practice is.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Do you think that I'm guessing you're male dominated
now because of location, city,what you're offering?
Do you think your practice hasswayed into that males versus
females because of you offer avery specific elective surgery
or what do you think?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
So everything I do is non-surgical, so there's no
surgery, but it depends on whatis happening and the waves.
So I very specifically wantedto niche down and have very
specific services for specificindividuals.
My services, my practice, mystyle of practicing is not for
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everybody.
Like I'm not for the personwho's like price shopping, I'm
not for the person who wants todictate to me what their
treatment plans are or what theywant, where this is still a
form of medicine.
So you're coming to me becauseI'm the expert in this and then
I'm going to guide you on how tohelp you get to where you want
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to be, and so I don't know ifI'm still answering your
question, but that kind of ledto it comes in waves.
So sometimes it'll be very maledominated and then sometimes
it'll be female dominated incertain other treatments.
It just depends.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
There's no like predictability around it, really
so my, my, mine froze up therefor a second.
I had to log back in, but maybeyou said this how are you
marketing?
But I caught the part wherethis is the part of the city
you're from and I'm assuming alot of it at this point is word
of mouth, but how are yougenerating leads?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
in essence, so previously I was previous to
2025, I did strictly.
It was word of mouth, mywebsite, my SEO, and then this
this year, I took it to TikTokand started openly talking about
it on my Instagram.
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My Instagram was doing verywell prior.
It was something I was able toactively do for years until I
became a business owner and thenI didn't have the time to be as
present there.
But now, um, it's very muchjust like TikTok Instagram,
youtube, because I cannot do ads, like Google would ban me or
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block me why is that?
because it's around sexual.
It's a bit around um like.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Weight is also body image, so they're very uh strict
anything taboo is kind of likeshunned upon, and they, they,
they, they shadow you, they evenhousing, I get.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I used to get banned all the time from facebook
groups and stuff for postinglike a house for rent or for
sale, and then it's like thisgoes against our equal housing
something, or I'm like you know,but anyways.
So so you're using um, inessence, social media as your
main marketing tool.
So, other than your time onthat task, there's really no ad
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spend.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Other than your time on that task.
There's really no ad spend Onlywith like Google, like Google
ads.
In regards, to like keeping mySEO moving yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Okay, but still you've been able to build what
sounds like a pretty sufficientbusiness with I say just in
quotation marks what we wouldprobably have all grown up
knowing is like non-traditionalmarketing, which is becoming
more and more commonplace, Ithink now yes, so um.
(21:27):
So, regarding the, the stuff youinject, um and forgive me if I
use any verbiage that's uhfrowned upon in this space,
because I'm, frankly, I'msomewhat ignorant to it is is it
, um, like regulated by the FDAor any sort of outside vendor?
(21:48):
Like you're not just buyingthis stuff off of like Alibaba
type thing?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
absolutely not right.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Right, okay, I mean, I say that like kind of joking,
like where do you source thisstuff, I obviously there's some
liability for you Like, how doyou make sure what you're doing
or using is third party testedor whatever the case may be?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Sure.
So everything I utilize comesfrom the companies who make the
product to our FDA approved forfor maybe for use in the United
States.
Now the use of it may beoff-label use because no one's
going to pay to run a study toput filler in a penis, but
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because it is cleared to beutilized maybe in the lips or
the cheeks.
We already know it's utilizedin the body and then the clients
are made aware, and through myconsents, that it is a off-label
use of it.
But everything I use is I usenothing that comes from out of
the country sure nothing.
Everything's regulated.
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All the medications, whetherit's if I do peptides, I get
them from pharmacies.
If it's anything injected, ithas to be something that was FDA
approved but it could be offlabel.
So for social media.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I just want to touch on that is that I'm looking at
your TikTok right now you have14,400 followers, 113,000 likes,
and, and on instagram you have20 400 followers.
Um, I'm not one of your uh,you're following me back.
I'm just saying uh, even thoughwe've been friends for 10 years
, and I'm allergic to you.
But that's okay, that's coolthat's okay.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Um, I had to about a year or so ago maybe longer now,
because time is just likeflying.
I had to cut back on things andthings I follow, because I
can't see what I need to seelike if there's experts in
something and they're postingcontent, I wanted to be able to
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see that immediately and not beinundated with like people's
family photos or whatever dumbstuff they post.
I just couldn't do that.
There was a point where I hadpeople in my family be like you
don't follow us.
I'm like this is work, like Ineed to be on here to like this
is your funnel, see what I needto see.
(24:15):
That's like maybe the next thingor what people are doing in
other countries.
That's like maybe the nextthing or what people are doing
in other countries, like I thinkyou commented one time like oh,
we're not friends on facebook.
I literally have five friends onfacebook I think it's my dad,
my sister, my brother and thewhole point of my facebook is so
I could see horses that are atkill pens, chickens where
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they're at, etc.
So I can get what I need andget off like I don't use it as a
like way you use it the way wealways say you should, as a
creator, not a consumer, likeyou're creating content to
create business.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Ie top of funnel, so create content, not distractions
I was gonna say, like you youmentioned it, like I've heard
about like guys going to like Ithink it's Turkey for hair
replacement and stuff like that.
So how did you some of thesewe'll call it off label
procedures or uses, like, didyou go to a seminar?
Is there like a specialschooling?
(25:11):
Like, how do you, how did youdecide, like you know what this
Botox is good for the forehead,we're going to use it here or
here.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
So I think it kind of comes.
So that has that question haslike multiple answers.
But the reason I started thiswas because my husband my
husband's a purple heart veteranwho lost his legs in
Afghanistan after he stepped onan IED.
When he came back he had well,I think we're up to like 40
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something surgeries at thispoint it might be a little
closer to 50, but we found overtime that there were some
roadblocks we were hitting inhis medical care around certain
needs that we were asking about,around sexual health or whatnot
, and found we were just beinggiven like here's a pill, here's
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a pill.
And as a provider I was likethis isn't the answer.
And they're like he's fine,he's fine, I'm like, well, when
you have a testosterone levelthat's under 200 and you're in
your 20s, you're not fine.
So like let's solve for this.
And at a certain point I justlooked at him one day and I said
, forget it, I'm going to gotrain on this, I'm going to go
learn all this and I'm going tobring it into my practice,
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because you are not the only onewho's getting told this and
just getting like bandaid afterbandaid instead of solving for a
cause.
So it started that way.
I sought out medical providerswho, like, specialize in sexual
health and I went and I trainedwith them.
I brought it back to mypractice.
Then I would find okay whenguys would talk to me about ED
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or Climax or certain situationsI had to solve for their
testosterone levels, hrt.
So then I brought HRT in, theirtestosterone levels, hrt.
So then I brought HRT in andthen HRT led into well, is there
anything you can do about sizeor this or that, which then led
me into fine, and I went andtrained on male enhancement and
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ultimately and peptides.
So ultimately what ended uphappening was I made a full
circle practice around thesethings that matter most to men
and that way they don't have toleave me unless they need
surgical intervention.
I can I send them to one oflike my mentors and colleagues
here who offers that.
But that's kind of whathappened.
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So now in my practice, whetherthey're having erectile
dysfunction problems, hrt iswhat they're looking to achieve.
They want a peptide to healbetter or we're going to do
shockwave therapy.
They want joint injections foran injury, like they're in my
practice, and that's where theystay.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
That's a pretty.
I mean first off, my hats offto you and your husband.
I mean that's amazing and it'skind of I don't know if cool is
the right way to say it, butlike it's pretty cool that you
guys went through that togetherand you kind of like literally
built a business out ofsomething that was directly
impacting you and you werepassionate about so I think it's
(28:12):
probably one of those likegiggle giggle type thing Like.
But then when you find thebackstory it's like well, that
is super cool.
And the one thing I know Aaronand Tyler and I were talking
about one time is like the shiftwork and the way men's
testosterone is impacted withour line of work is actually
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pretty significant and, to thebest of my knowledge, not widely
discussed or publicized, butthat is something that has been
a pretty common theme you keephearing more and more about
every year is the testosteronedrop and then also testicular
cancer and prostate cancerwithin the fire service is
pretty significant.
And there for a long time Idon't think there was just a lot
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of talk about it because it wasjust like almost like a rite of
passage, battle scar type thing, where now it's become a lot of
talk about it because it wasjust like almost like a rite of
passage battle scar type thing,where now it's become a lot more
prevalent, where people are atleast from my perspective
talking about it.
More preventative care is moretalked about, cleaning turnout
gear is more talked about, but,um, still I don't think it's
where it needs to be.
(29:16):
But it's getting there and uh,it kind of, like you said,
removing some of that taboodiscussion about it is probably
the first step.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Well, the internet's great because it gets
information out, but it alsogets wrong information out.
So recently we hit a reallygreat milestone with
testosterone in the past likethree weeks that they finally
are removing the black boxwarning saying that it causes
cardiac problems in men oranyone.
But like that wasn't true.
(29:45):
Studies showed that that wasn'ttrue and finally you were able
to get that removed, which washuge the other thing people
don't, on injections, on botox,on what's what was removed trt
that it causes um cardiaccomplications or problems.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, it was a part of the black box warning of
testosterone.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
So finally, after studies had shown that this was
not the case, we were able toget that removed this year.
So that was huge.
The other thing is we'refinding men who are younger are
requiring testosteronereplacement earlier than, say,
your grant, our grandfathers did.
Now whether that has to do withthe things we consume, exposed
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to, etc.
Who knows at this point, butlike there is very obvious data
that's showing that men areyounger and younger needing this
supplementation.
Um, the other thing is a lot ofpeople put out there you don't
need this.
Why would you add this?
Well, your men are born withtestosterone.
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They need testosterone tofunction.
So, like, when your levels aretoo low, we give it back to you
to get you back up to where yourbody likes it, so you can still
optimize, like your function.
And it's not just for ed, it'slike how you feel, are you tired
?
Some guys get treated fordepression and put on depression
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meds when really, if we correcttheir testosterone, they'll
feel better and they may notneed an antidepressant.
So there's more to it than Ithink people realize as well.
As, like when people don'tunderstand, I tell them well, if
you remove your thyroid or yourthyroid doesn't operate well,
we give you thyroid meds so itstill functions.
(31:31):
So why is that different forthe pituitary gland and the
testicles when it comes totestosterone?
And then people are like, oh,that makes sense.
Or some will say it's a steroid,you're going to abuse this,
it's whatever.
Well, when it's done in theright way, in a controlled
setting, you have improvement inlife.
The guys who are getting itfrom their buddy at the gym and
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abusing it and taking too much,that's a different story.
But that's like the same thingwith oxycodone when you take it
the right way after surgery,your pain is relieved.
You go on with your life whenyou're better.
If you abuse it and take thewhole pill and bottle in a day
or two, it again becomes adifferent story.
So people need to just realizekind of perspective and think
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like logically around some ofthis stuff and there'll be less
um deterred, I think so just tojust to enhance or expand upon
that.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
so I've obviously you guys know that I used to be
bigger into the fitness industryand I used to work with
firefighters and and uh and alot of military guys.
We had walter reed in dc.
We used to have access to themduring the early parts of the
war that your husband got hurton and and a lot of the things
that you see was, as youmentioned, was testosterone, and
I think that a lot of guysdon't realize they have low
testosterone because they'reirritable, sexual performance is
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down, erectile dysfunction isdown, depression's up, there's a
whole number of things thatlooks like it kind of mirrors
PTSD, but it's actually, if youlook at the chemistry of the
body that it's actuallysomething like that that you
need to get tested for.
The problem, or one of theobstacles I see, is that if me
and Mike go to the doctor, ourstandard uh complete blood count
panel or or, uh or or test doesnot include testosterone unless
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requested, and a lot of timesit's not covered by insurance.
So do you have any opinions onthat?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yes.
So that's why I do not operatethrough insurance purposely for
this.
So there are FDA likeguidelines on how to get it
covered by insurance.
So, for example, men would haveto have a testosterone level
under 300 twice and then theyneed to stay within a certain
range for the insurance to coverit.
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Where, in my practice, I havecash pay labs that's a complete
panel of everything to see howyour whole body's operating,
because they all need each otherto be successful, and if I were
to put those same labs throughyour insurance, the bill you
would get would probably be inthe thousands.
Where in my practice, it's onlya couple hundred dollars to
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have all the answers.
I'm also able to treat youbased on how you feel, side
effects, etc.
So you may be 40 and have atestosterone level of 306.
I take care of of you, eventhough your insurance or your
provider who'd take insurancewould say, well, you're not
under 300 right okay, but he'scomplaining of like made
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abdominal fat, he's tired,fatigued, low interest in sexual
activity, libido, etc.
Like he has all the symptoms.
So we're gonna let him sit tillhe drops six more points.
So that's kind of how mypractice differs we get to
actually solve for um problems.
But I do make it a point totell guys like testosterone
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isn't like the magic shot wherethere's still other aspects of
your life you have to um beactive and take part in to still
make you feel better, if thatmakes sense.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I don't want too much do much.
Do too much cock focusing andum and TRT focusing.
Like what other?
What are your other top onesthat you've worked on in your
practice?
Like what else?
Is somebody coming to see youon a regular basis?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, so I mean, a lot of my stuff is around
erectile dysfunction, male girthenhancement, weight management,
hormone replacement therapy.
So the other would be theweight management.
Again, that was something thatclients who maybe didn't qualify
(35:36):
through the brand name medswere able to come to me and
utilize compounded form.
That's all kind of now changinghere in the next couple months.
Well, in the next couple monthswe're going to see more people
probably on the brand due to thelawsuits with Eli Lilly on
terzeptide.
So that's something else I do.
(35:58):
But within the practice I don'tonly utilize GLPs, I utilize
oral medications, I utilizepeptides.
So I kind of make aindividualized plan for each
person, based on their outcomes,to help them feel their best.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Can you explain what those are Like?
What is a peptide versus aninjectable?
Speaker 1 (36:17):
So a peptide is.
Well, what do you mean?
Because the GLPs are alsopeptides.
So there's the differencebetween it's just the way
they're made and the moleculesand how they function within our
body, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I guess I'm trying to normalize some of this stuff,
because a lot of people are, Iwouldn't say, say, scared, but
they're intimidated by aninjectable, or they're
intimidated by pills, or they'renot comfortable with it because
they don't understand what itdoes.
Like, how do you make somebodymore comfortable and show them
like, okay, this is what we'regoing to do, this is your game
plan, this is how we're going toexecute it and this is what you
need to do?
Because I know, like even rightnow, I have a friend of mine at
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work like his.
His wife is on ozempic and shewon't give herself a shot she's
scared to, so his, her husbandhas to give her the shot.
So, like, how do you makesomebody comfortable in these
arenas?
Like, how do I come in there?
I'm like all right, erica, thisis what's wrong with me.
Fix me.
Like, how do you?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
so what for the clients that are scared of
needles?
And I'll tell you that therethere's a wide variety for all
the services I offer.
Um, when it comes to the menfor like enhancement, you're
numb, so they don't feelanything and once they realize
they don't feel anything, itgoes away.
For people who can't injectthemselves or refuse to inject
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themselves, we inject theirfirst dose of whatever it is in
office together, and the needleis.
I tell them each step we'regoing through it to make sure
they're doing it right.
So when they go home becausethey can do it, they just have
this thought in their head thatit's really more than it is.
So I will hold their hand andhelp them.
(37:51):
And then, when it's in and theyhave this, a moment where they
say, oh, that's not that bad,then they're on their, they're
out.
It's usually just helpingpeople get over the
psychological side of it.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I'm like I'm not going to inject you.
I'm going to inject you with asmall needle, small gauge needle
, not this um straw fromMcDonald's.
Like you have to realize thatthere's different gauges.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Right, right.
So, like with HRT, most guysexpect that I'm going to give
them a huge needle to dointramuscular injection, where I
actually do subcutaneous,because certain doses can be
done subcutaneously, like in theabdomen, and that's a little
easier for some people to takeon.
There are other options where,like I could say, we could do
(38:32):
like an oral option for thosemen who are really just not
there yet.
Or if someone says I can't, Ican't do that, I can't do it,
well, we take it out of maybetheir treatment plan and explain
you just may not get thesebenefits, and then they live
with what we've come up with,minus this one thing, and
realize, oh, maybe I really doneed that.
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And then they'll come back whenthey're ready and we add it and
then they feel better.
So sometimes you got to meetpeople where they're at but give
them the expectations that,like, you want to get here, but
what you want to do right now isonly going to get you to here.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Mike, I know you got to roll out here shortly.
Do you want to add anything?
You're on mute, bro.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Still on mute bro still on mute.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Sorry it was all jacked up, but no, I mean, this
is one of those topics likeobviously, uh, if you can tell,
we haven't talked much aboutthis, but uh, it's definitely
something.
It's, like, I would say,interesting and, like I said,
the it's just cool how you kindof came into this world of uh
medicine, because it's not whatI anticipated, frankly, but, um,
(39:50):
yeah, I do have to hop off, butyou know, I greatly appreciate
you sharing this and if anybodywas interested in kind of
finding out more obviously, wetalked about your social media
accounts.
Like what's the best way?
If uh, male, female, whatever,um wanted more information,
where should they reach out?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
so I always recommend people for education purposes
follow my socials.
So it's simply just thedistrict injector.
But you can also go to mywebsite, the district
injectorcom, and you'll seethere all the services.
There's a ton of information onit.
For men, there's a big buttonthat's like for men so they can
go right there and findeverything they need.
(40:31):
But they can always call theoffice too and talk to my office
manager and get moreinformation.
A lot of people's questions orneeds really are solved for in
an appointment with me.
So there's that.
I encourage people to always dothe appointment with me to have
their questions, answers andconcerns like spoken to so they
(40:54):
can have a better idea of whatit all looks like.
They don't have to be afraid totalk to me or come in.
I have a very like warmpractice, comfortable.
It's not very sterile.
I made it so people feel likethey're comfortable and they can
talk and they realize at acertain point they're like I'm
also a human.
So then, kind of, they can lettheir guard down and we can get
(41:15):
the conversation started.
So that's what I would say.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Eric, we'll stay on with me.
I got a couple more questionsfor you, and then we're going to
have some cock talk here.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
All right, erica, it was nice meeting you.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
My pleasure, thank you.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
All right, erica.
So what's what's some of theobstacles that you've overcome?
Not just being a nurse with aspecialty, but also a very
specific focus on practice, like, what are some of your
obstacles you've had to overcome?
Speaker 1 (41:49):
So I think it's really important to know and I
think this is for any businessowner success doesn't happen
overnight.
Like you just don't open yourdoors to a business and like
people start just walkingthrough the door, I think you
attract the type of client orperson you want in your business
(42:11):
.
So for me it was reallyimportant to have a client who
appreciated the amount of time Igive them, my education, my
training, those things.
So I understood that, likegrowing by word of mouth may
take longer, but the people inmy practice were going to value
me as much as I value them.
(42:32):
The other thing is, like youknow, the internet can be a wild
place.
I get drugged, like they dragme for certain things, like
they'll say the one that cracksme up always is like I bet her
husband doesn't ask her how herday is, or like whatever, or she
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must be the dominant one, orcertain things, and I die
because I'm just like you guysdon't realize, like I originally
did all this for him, maybe notthe one specific treatment that
they're interested in, but thevision behind it started that
way.
It started for veterans itstarted for then it led.
(43:13):
I grew up in a law enforcement,fire family Like it started.
For those people Because I'malso one of them, so I think
that was something to overcome.
Like people just thinkingaesthetics is always a money
grab or they just want moremoney no, I actually care about
my patients.
Like I don't do this for themoney, I do it for their
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outcomes.
There's that.
That's tough.
I think people don't.
Something to overcome is likemy husband gets up to go to work
and he leaves by 4am.
I shortly follow he's home inthe afternoon.
I'm at work till 9pm in thecity and then I drive home and
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he's probably already sleepingand I still need to work.
So, like your personal lifedoes, like you have to make more
of an effort in your personallife and there's times where
doing fun things aren't thething you get to do.
You have to make a decision onlike payrolls do, or the
insurance is ready to be renewed, or all my licenses need
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something, so and then on top ofit, we have a farm, maybe an
animal needs something, sothere's like always something
and you just have to be preparedat a certain point to have to
hire people or you're going tobottleneck yourself out really.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
The joke I made earlier was like Mikey can't run
away from Erica with theneedles whenever she wants to
inject them, but she doesn't doall that stuff and he doesn't
allow it.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
No, so the biggest thing he always did allow me to
do were like what I call in mypractice the D shot.
It was things that we weresearching for in the beginning,
when I first started sexualhealth.
He is not interested inskincare.
He's not interested in Botox inhis face.
He does let me do the jointinjections like the PRP joint
(45:03):
injections due to, like theinjuries he has, or like
shockwave therapy to joints aswell for injuries.
He does follow on, like thesupplements that I offer in my
practice, or like peptides likethepc or um, certain other ones
that I just won't blast everyoneon here, but, um, just because,
(45:25):
um, but yes, so he's a, he's apart of certain parts of it,
he's not a part of like thebeauty side of it.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
I would say yeah, what I think is funny is that,
like me and you, we've beenfriends for about a decade now
and anybody listening I'mallergic to her, so we couldn't
hang out for more.
We couldn't be friends for morethan a couple hours at a time,
because the hay and the horsesand the stuff she'd bring home
from the barn for some reasonI've got an allergy as I've
gotten, as I've gotten into myold age.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
So do you think?
Speaker 2 (45:56):
what are your plans for the near future, like what's
your goals for the near future?
Speaker 1 (46:01):
So ultimately my goal , at least through this year, is
to continue to niche down themen's services to eventually
bring on a provider who canoperate and do services that I'm
not offering, so maybe someonewho's more interested in the
Botox filler female side of thepractice.
(46:25):
So then I will be like ifclients want to see me, that'll
be more towards certain services, but that's down the line.
Ultimately, it will be memoving out of the business and
running like I will instead ofme being the business I will be
me moving out of the businessand running Like I will instead
of me being the business I willbe.
Running the business isultimately what the goal would
(46:45):
be, because the whole point ofstarting your own business is to
have the freedom.
So where people strive forwanting the money of a business,
I'm striving for time, liketime to be back at my home, time
to be on my farm, time to ridemy horse, like certain things.
Like that is more important tome.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
You know it's crazy that a lot of people think that,
like, wealth is money but a lotof time, it's freedom of time
as well, and a lot of peopledon't understand that until they
they're, they never have freetime because they're tied up
with something that they don'tenjoy.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
So hats off to you for recognizing that earlier in
our lives, right, I had a greatbusiness coach who when I spoke
to him he used it as an exampleand it was great.
So he explained to other peoplethat were sitting there.
Like I could throw money atErica all day, but she doesn't
want money, she wants time.
So as a business owner also,you need to know what your
(47:38):
employees want.
So if they're not driven bymoney, you need to give them
what they're driven by.
And so I have an individual.
He doesn't care about money, hewants to be able to, like, have
his weekends or have a life orbe able to do things.
So that's how I reward him isby giving him those things when,
(47:58):
if another person's driven bymoney, then I would do like,
maybe, bonus structure byreaching certain milestones.
So that's something too, andwe're not.
I went to school to be a nurse.
I didn't go to school to belike a business owner.
I don't have like a businessdegree, so a lot of it you learn
as you go, but you have to justtake it and move, take it and
move, and I don't think I thinkpeople get discouraged when they
(48:25):
get hit by something, but whenowning a business, but you just
got to take it, learn from itand go.
You can't sit in it I thinkthat's big.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
So you mentioned I want to touch on this too as a
business owner you decided toget a coach.
At what point did you decide Ineed to get a coach, and how did
you find them?
Speaker 1 (48:37):
So this gentleman is not actively my coach.
He was at a conference that Iwent to for men and when I never
hired an actual business coachbecause I just never felt like
they related or they understoodme or like we connected.
But when I met this man, heactually specializes in teaching
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fitness coaches how to growtheir business and how to be
successful.
But when he spoke he spoke mylanguage and like when he says
things, even though he's tellingit to business coaches, I
understand him fully.
Where previous people I triedto work with um, just I didn't
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have that with them, so I likedthat.
I also saw like he had hisfamily maybe it was, I think,
originally in England and now hehas them in Dubai due to his
like success and they leftbecause that was his goal.
The freedom was to get there,um.
So it was cool because you'veseen his journey.
That shows what he's talkingabout isn't just throwing it out
(49:43):
, he's living it.
You know when you need one, Ithink, when you have to just
accept that like you don't knoweverything and you have to
offload things to other people,and that's kind of the same way
I decided when I needed a cp,like my cpa and all her team to
take over doing certain thingsfor me or my social media crew,
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like I couldn't be everythingand I'm still in a place where
I'm solving for all the things Istill can't be, but I'm doing
it slowly, letting it go.
You just have to know.
You know when your growth isn'tis stopped because you're still
doing paperwork, I would say.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
But don't set yourself short for a $5 an hour,
a $10 an hour job when you'remaking more.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
It's 25 or 30 or 50 or a hundred.
So like don't shortchange yourtime, because you need to use it
.
The biggest thing that a lot ofpeople don't understand is, if
you're a business owner, youhave to buy your time back.
So, whether it be a cpa hiringsomebody to do your books or
hiring somebody to social media,so you're not on an app, like
looking at your phone, liketrying to cut it into whatever
right, so how are you okay?
So how about the rest of thosethings?
(50:53):
Like, how are you finding otherpeople to buy your time back?
Speaker 1 (50:57):
So I utilize.
I'm in a lot of groups for,like medical providers and
specifically like the CPA, Iwanted to find one that
specialized in what my practicekind of operated as like if,
like someone who understood medspas and the growth of that way,
because I found people who justdid everyday people's personal,
(51:21):
like taxes and stuff reallyweren't looking at how I could
optimize or grow or where Icould cut back or whatever it is
they're supposed to help us do.
And so I found her and the coolthing is that she's also grown
as I've grown, like she'schanged her business.
She's changed the way she doesthings too.
(51:41):
And I realized when I had like10 months of itemization of the
last, the last year, when I itwas tax time, like I'm like I
don't have time for this and Ireally don't want to give up my
Sunday to be going clothingallowance.
Like business expect expense.
You know like who cares, sothey do that for me and they do
(52:02):
it in real time, like, which isawesome.
Um, who else do I have?
The media guys?
Um, they were like you run yourown social media, great.
Like you don't need us.
I'm like, no, you don'tunderstand.
Like I do, because the hardestpart of my day is actually
posting stuff or coming up withthe ideas for content or
(52:23):
whatever, and it just got to apoint where I chose to not be
present because I was doingpaperwork.
So with them I take care of allof the content and they help me
and they post whatever.
Some of it is me, some of it'sthem, but the reality is I don't
have to like it's not on mybrain all day, which anybody
(52:45):
listening, especially the guys.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
Please don't send her cock pictures on her social
media, because it might be herteam is actually looking at them
and it's truly unprofessional.
I know that you've had someissues in the past with people
like asking inappropriatequestions or inappropriate
messages.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
Yeah, yeah, my only fans those are coming.
Yeah, the guys who send their.
So this is still medicine.
Social media platforms ormessages is not the place to
think you're gonna have aconsultation with me.
So the consultation occurs inthe office and that's when I do
(53:21):
the assessments.
So the ones who just startsending me photos like block,
block or like no responsebecause I'm not, I'm not
engaging, I can just see firemennow.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
There's some cops now who are listening to this like,
oh, he's looking fine forsocial media.
Oh, she's very attracted.
Let me send her a cock pictureand ask her if I can get bigger.
Like that's not how it works,you need to know, the social
media is for marketing, and thein-house um, in-house meeting
with with erica or one of herteam members is going to be
where you have a uh, determinewhich course of action you're
(53:55):
going to take.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
So right this is virtual yeah.
So, like I have guys who comefrom all over the place, we do
virtual.
You don't have to come into theoffice until the day of
treatment.
So sometimes people are like,well, I have to travel to you,
that's totally fine.
We do the virtual consultation,we come up with the plan, we
talk about it and then wecoordinate with my practice for,
(54:18):
like, when you plan to fly inexpectations etc and then go
from there.
So, um, I just ask people torealize like we're on eastern
standard time.
So when you're booking anappointment, it's for eastern
standard time, and a lot ofpeople are like, if they're late
or don't show up, I can't helpthat.
Everything says Easternstandard time and you wait until
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your time zone.
That's like yeah, or like, yeah, it's usually the Pacific
standard time.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
All right, I'm not going to hound on that too much.
Do you ever miss going back toemergency surgery versus
elective?
Speaker 1 (55:01):
Like in the ICU.
There are days.
There are days where I do misslike the adrenaline from being
like the last line of defensefor people.
Sometimes I do miss that, LikeI worked for three, I did my
three 12s which aren't onlytwelves and then the next
(55:22):
several days I get to just dowhatever around the farm.
But then I remember certainthings about it that it kind of
goes away Like like, oh, that'snice to like, yeah, yeah, I
don't need that anymore, it's astressor.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
I mean, everything's gonna be like what do you say?
Pick your, pick your hard.
Whether it be, uh, you want towork hard and make more money
and buy your time back, or youwant to work hard and get the
enjoyment, the excitement,everything's going to have
negative consequences orpositive consequences.
Just, you got to pick your hard.
I'd rather be.
Uh, I'd rather work hard now soI can have an easier life later
on.
Um, which it seems like whatyou guys are doing, because you
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already have the farm in place.
I'm a little bit jealous, orenvious, I should say, because
this is the position that I wantto be in a couple of years when
I retire.
Uh, but you worked really,really hard to get in that
position now, whereas a lot ofpeople they were partying and
yeah, yeah, where you werefocused on, I'm going to do this
, I'm going to do this, I'mgoing to do this Like.
Honestly, 10 years ago, when webecame friends, I wouldn't have
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felt that you were going to bea cock doc.
I thought, like you were likenurse for life, like I see you
for life and it's great.
I really enjoyed watching yoursuccess over the last 10 years.
So congratulations.
Speaker 1 (56:41):
Thank you.
I mean, you have babies now.
Yeah, I almost have two Give mea couple more weeks.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
I'll have two.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
I know it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
All right, is there anything that we missed or I
missed that you want to talkabout?
Speaker 1 (56:56):
No, I don't.
I mean, I think a lot of myservices and what I offer is
pretty like self.
You know they're pretty clearon the website and when people
don't understand, I just saylike I'd encourage you to just
book the consultation, have thetime, the 30 minutes, with me.
It is actually with me.
Some people get confused andthink they're going to talk and
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see someone else it's me andthen kind of go from there.
I promise you that there hasnot been something said to me
that has been surprising.
You are not going to saysomething to me.
Someone else already hasn't orasked me about or trust me, like
most people think.
She's going to remember me,she's going to know.
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This is weird.
Why would I say this?
I promise you someone has saidor done something weirder and I
will not like I do not come homeand eat dinner and discuss what
I talked to you about, likethat's what I think people are
worried about.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
And I don't think Mike really gives a damn that
what you're doing with the uncleat work, like, like yes of damn
that what you're doing with?
Dealing with work like like yes, you personally, but like not
the specific the guys.
Yeah, he wants to hear it no,we don't.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
We don't even talk about the things.
It's like, hey, how was yourday cool.
And then we move on to like thenext thing.
Um, I always used to tellpeople in the hospital when,
like I'd have to clean them, I'dbe like your butt's not the
first butt I've seen, it's notthe last butt I've seen, and I'm
not going home to talk aboutyour butt.
And then they laugh and theyget over it.
So, yes, it's uncomfortable forpeople because they never grew
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up talking about it, or theirfamily, their friends, their
community doesn't talk about it.
But you can still talk to meabout it, it's okay, I promise.
Speaker 2 (58:35):
Erica, if you can go back and give your younger self
some advice Now, this could be10 years ago when we became
friends.
It could be 20 years ago whenyou first started in the nursing
Like.
What would you give youryounger self advice about?
Speaker 1 (58:47):
I probably would have had more fun then, because and
to tell myself to live in themoments that I'm having and
appreciate them, because I'mvery much the type where, okay,
I accomplished this part, nowwhat's the next thing?
Like there's never actuallylike sitting in what I've
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accomplished.
Um, and I'll make records in myown practice and I'll be like I
should have, I should have madethat higher, I should have, I
could have done better.
And I'll even have my officemanager be like are you crazy?
You like tripled, whatever.
And I'm like, yeah, but I couldhave.
And so sometimes it's justrealizing like, like you said,
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like look how you've grown.
I don't see that for myself.
Like I don't see all thoseaccomplishments where other
people will say, like look atwhat you've done, like there's
people who don't do anything,because I'm always striving and
I need to learn to like sit init.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
I.
So I see that with a lot ofbusiness owners, especially
friends of mine, who are, Iwouldn't say overachievers, but
they look in hindsight andhindsight's always 2020.
It's the clear vision.
You look back and it's like,okay, I could have done this.
I need to change this.
Like this is what.
Like learn from it, but don'tbeat yourself up, because your
future endeavors as long as youlearn from your past, and your
future endeavors will be easier.
I don't think a lot of peoplethey recognize when they're
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beating themselves up versuscelebrating the accomplishments
that they've achieved.
So that's why I like to giveyou a little bit of praise is
because I think sometimes youjust you're too tired, too
overwhelmed to focus on yourachievements, and I think
everybody else sees it, butpeople like you don't or haven't
learned to yet.
Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
I should say yeah, travel more, take more breaks,
enjoy the moment.
Those are big things all right.
Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Well, I hear the pitter patter of my uh, my one
and a half year old upstairsbanging.
So we've done, erica.
Thank you so much for hoppingon, I've been trying to talk to
you for a while.
Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
All right, babe, I'll talk to you soon and tell Mike
I said hi.
Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Thank you, I will.
Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Have a good day.
Thanks, everybody, thank you umyou.
Yeah, it's awesome.
Based out of Washington DC, shestarted as a nurse.
She's from Florida, moved up toDC, did some contract work,
especially during COVID.
She got to pick and choose herhospitals that she worked at and
now she started her ownbusiness by the DuPont Circles.
So, erica, thank you fordealing with our ineptness and
hopping on today and tell meyour 15 minute, 15 second
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elevator pitch of who you are soI'm well.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I was born and raised in South Florida and then went
to college in New York, thenwent back to college again in
Florida and then finally went tocollege in DC and became a
nurse and then I ultimately hada critical care background and
trauma burn ultimately kind ofhow we ended up meeting.
And then I decided to do sometravel nursing before I went
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back to MP school to just getsome more experience, became an
MP and kind of reached a pointwhere I was tired of telling
people that like they weren'tgoing to make it, or family
members that their familymembers weren't going to make it
, and decided to go into moreelective services.
And then I opened my ownpractice and now have a
aesthetic wellness, sexualhealth with a focus on men
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clinic.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
All right, so let's take a couple of steps back.
Where did you go to school?
In New York and DC.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I originally went to Stony Brook, then I went to UCF,
I went to Catholic Universityof America and then Drexel
University.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
So the did you go to each college for a different
focus, like I know you're?
You're a board certified nursepractitioner now.
But what was each school'sbenefit for you, like, why did
you choose those schools?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
So initially I wanted to go to med school, or I
thought that I wanted to go tomed school.
So my first degrees were insciences.
And then, before I hit gettingready to take the MCAT, I was
like wait a second.
Doctors don't do this, thenurses are the ones that do this
.
So I finished the sciencebachelors and then immediately
went into a nursing bachelor andthen after that I worked a
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little bit and then went backfor um my master's in nursing.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Okay, Um.
So why'd you land in DC, Likewhy'd you stick around here?
Because obviously you were kindof all over the place.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Originally it was because the person that I was
dating when I was originally inNew York we kind of agreed upon
a finding a place in the city.
I was able to get a nursing oneum, and he decided he was gonna
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move.
So I actually just stayed likeI loved it and was ultimately
where I'm in my home now.
I've lived here longer than Ilived in florida.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
At this point, yeah, I was gonna say it seems like
the opposite.
You know, usually people movefrom this area down to Florida,
but you know there's pros andcons, I think, with both of
those locales.
So was your intent to justbecome?
I say just like, was your goalto become a nurse practitioner
and like, go that career path oris starting your own practice
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or a clinic always kind of beenin the back of your mind?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
No, like anyone who knows me, I was like I don't
want to own a business I'mtotally fine with.
We started seven at thehospital I check out, I go home,
I leave it at the hospital andcome back.
It just ultimately came to bebecause I was just finding like
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I wanted to provide a certainlevel or standard of care or
offer certain things, and theonly way to do that was through
having my own practice and ontop of it, certain states allow
for autonomy.
So in DC I have full practiceauthority so I don't have to
function under the supervisionof a doctor, so I can operate
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how I would like to.
And then I also do that in 20something other states that have
full authority, and then I alsoam licensed in I'm almost
licensed in 46 states as ofright now.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Congratulations.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, yeah that that sounds like a lot, I mean.
I'm barely an EMT in one state,so we have to function under a
medical director, but anyways,so what?
What is the advantage then?
I guess I should back up.
But what?
What is the advantage then?
I guess I should back up.
But what is the advantage tofunctioning in 46 states or even
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20 states, when I would imaginewhat you do is pretty much
serving a local market that has,I guess my assumption is the
disposable income to do electiveprocedures at this point and
not necessarily covered byinsurance.
Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
and not necessarily covered by insurance.
Is that correct, Correct?
So I do not.
Um, I do not collaborate withinsurances.
I do operate like a cash-basedonly practice.
A lot of the services I offeranyway would not be covered by
insurance, and the ones thatwould.
It allows me to provide myclients more time with me and
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more customized andsymptom-based out like
treatments with outcomes, asopposed to having to go kind of
into like a treatment mill, likeyour provider sees you for 10
to 15 minutes.
The next one comes in like theprovider's forced to see 75
people in a day where I can seefive people and give them my
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full attention.
So there's that.
And then being in other states,I have clients that are in
other states and I have a lot ofpeople that will fly in to see
me.
It allows me to treat peoplevia telehealth, virtually
address needs for them at adistance.
But I previously got all thoselicenses because I worked for a
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nationwide company that providedmedical director coverage to
providers and in doing that Ineeded to make sure I could
operate in those states as wellif we had clients that needed me
.
So that's kind of where thatcame from.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
That makes sense.
So was the basically thecatalyst for you to kind of
change from what I'm hearing yousay is like but these are my
words, I don't want to put themin your mouth like the hospital
setting kind of felt almost morelike a business where you had
to do this, this and this andyou weren't able to treat the
patient the way you felt theyneeded treated all the time.
(07:02):
And then it just was aculmination of that and having
to tell people bad news time andtime again.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Well, leaving the hospital happened, so I was
doing my kind of private careerpart-time as I built a clientele
and then I was still in thehospital on the other side, and
so I reached the point where Icould completely leave.
When I reached the point that Icould completely leave, covid
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ultimately came and nothingelective was being allowed and I
stayed for probably I guessthey called it like three rounds
where we were seeing like thespikes in COVID.
(07:50):
And after that I came home oneday and I said to my husband I
was like I'm never going back,like my practice is the only
option and I'm going to make away to make it work.
Because you hit a point where,like during COVID, we were doing
things and helping people inways that like they can't train
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you for that.
This wasn't in education, itwasn't taught in school.
Like it was something we werethrown into and had to like make
decisions and support people inreal time, and no one can teach
you how to do that.
So it was just, it was tough.
It was tough.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, you got to pick your heart, like, obviously
your heart at that point wastelling people the end of life
is inevitable.
And now your heart is working20, 21 hours a day for seven
days a week.
So sometimes you just got topick your heart and see which
one's going to be the best foryou personally emotionally,
mentally, physically,spiritually, whatever, sexually
(08:50):
in this case.
Good on you.
I just want to highlight,because I know we've kind of
told you guys what whoever'slistening told you what she does
.
I'm just going to list a coupleof the treatments.
My favorite I'm going to startwith is cock talks and peptides.
She going to list a couple ofthe treatments.
My favorite I'm going to startwith is cocktox and peptides.
She does salite, derma fillers,hair restoration, spa facials,
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vitamin boost, men's sexualhealth, skincare, skin
tightening labs, weightmanagement, which I've seen you
post a lot in your TikTok about,and women's sexual health.
She also for the focus on themale stuff.
It's treatment for men is agirth enhancement and male
enhancement.
So I know there's a lot ofcause, just cause, watching your
TikTok and knowing you for thelast decade, like I know that
you get a lot of um, a lot ofquestions about this Um, I was
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showing the guys at thefirehouse that I'm doing a
podcast with you and I was like,yeah, look at that.
There's on her page on TikTok.
There's cock talks and there'sinjections and fillers and
everybody I work with is likewhat in the sweet chocolate,
jesus, is that?
So can you?
I mean your.
Your focus is is what are yourtop three or top five focuses
doing this stuff?
Now?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
So now my main focus.
So I do have the aesthetic sidewhere I treat women for like
their basic Botox, fillers, etcetera.
I have a whole weightmanagement clinic that I operate
.
Break it down what are what areBotox and what are fillers, et
cetera.
I have a whole weightmanagement clinic that I operate
.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Break it down.
What are Botox and what arefillers?
What are they used for?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
So neurotoxin is utilized for preventing muscle
movement.
So when people don't likecertain facial expressions or
activation of certain muscles, Iutilize the neurotoxin to stop
that.
So most people know it for liketheir frown, lines between
their brows, or like the linesaround their eyes and their
crow's feet.
Where I utilize it in otherplaces, like under the armpits,
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for sweat, I utilize it in thescrotum for men to drop their
testicles or to prevent sweatyballs.
I utilize it for men who arebald and they sweat a lot.
Put it around their head.
Um.
There's a lot of different usesfor it, um, but mine kind of
are the basic known aestheticpurposes, and then ones that are
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more taboo, that people aren'tactually aware of.
And then filler.
Of course most people are likelit think of lips or like cheek
filler or jawline.
But I utilize it as well in thefashion for enhancing male
girth, um creating length in thepenis as well, as we can create
um size, like with thetesticles, the scrotum.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
So there's different reasons let me ask you a
question.
Yes, so this is a conversationwe had in the back of the fire
truck.
When I told him that we'regoing to do an interview with
you, I was like she can make ashower into a grower and they
were like what the hell is that?
So can you kind of break downwhat you use, what it is and why
?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yes, so I use neurotoxin, which most people
know the term Botox, and Iinject it into specific muscles,
ligaments of the penis thatcause the retraction of the
penis to go back.
So the penis, the gland, thehead goes back towards the body
and inside.
So I help by relaxing thosemuscles to prevent that in and
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out.
And what it does is when werelax those muscles it allows
for more blood flow to the penis.
So that gives the relaxedlength.
So we try and get you to aplace where you're relaxed, in
that you get more of your Iguess erect length.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
But when you're flaccid your I guess erect
length, but when you're flaccid,so when you have a erection,
you go basically just from 10 toor 6 to 12, instead of like
poking out like a turtle.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
No, you will always have the same erect length.
You may develop firmererections, or it assists men who
have erectile dysfunction andhave difficulty getting blood
flow or having firmer erections,but it does not.
This specific treatment doesnot give you more length than
what you already have whenyou're erect.
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It gives you the length whenyou're flaccid.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Okay, I'm trying really hard to giggle and be
completely inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
So I'm just, I'm just completely amazed One.
I've never even heard of thisuntil about a half hour before
this show started and then Iimagine that's not one of the
procedures insurance will cover.
And then, in all seriousness,though, like this has to be a
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super niche market.
How how many folks are, I don'tknow, on a weekly or monthly
basis getting stuff like thisdone?
I mean, this is kind of like Ithought botox was just for the
duck lips and the the foreheadand stuff, because, like I mean,
from my perspective I'm notlike the target audience
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probably, but I this this is, Imean, I would say, interesting,
but like surprising to me also,you know so, like how, how
frequently is are you doing thisprocedure all?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
day, every day, really yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
How many clients do you see a week?
Like does your, does yourpractice, see a week?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
ish, oh gosh.
It's changes every week becauseI have every appointment is
scheduled for different amountsof time, so it's based off of
the time blocks that I need foreach service.
So like, for example, I thinkyesterday I did like four male
enhancements for girth so and Ikeep them an hour and a half to
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two hours at a time, so that isultimately almost a day, but in
between I catch up on someweight management clients who
are coming in, so it's kind oflike you line them up in
different offices and you'relike you get some neurotoxin,
you get some neurotoxin, you,you get some neurotoxin, you get
some neurotoxin, you're goingto get some weight loss
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management.
No, so I have two differentrooms.
I have my waiting room and thenI have two treatment rooms and
I kind of have one set up formen and then the others are for
just like my other treatments,my quicker in and out room.
But everything's set up towhere, if I needed to do
something in each room it's thesame I can move between the two.
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I just kind of like keeping,like you have to remember,
there's women who are coming inwho don't necessarily want to
see like my penis shaped stuffedanimals or like stuffies, or
like my male anatomy figurinesor like my lamps that light up
that are the shape of a penisLike, so I keep those in like a
male anatomy figurines.
Or like my lamps that light upthat are the shape of a penis
like, so I keep those in like amale room.
And then I have the otherthings that would be for people
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who don't necessarily want tosee that in my other room.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Have you ever made the accident of putting somebody
who's like anti penis in apenis room?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I'm sure there's like in the beginning I had to keep
certain things in certain places.
So I'm sure there's people whowalked in and were like what?
And didn't say anything.
But a lot of times people comein and they'll say they're
coming just for Botox on theirface and they'll say I got lost
on your website because I didn'tknow some of these things
existed.
And it's cool because it'sstarting conversations between
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people amongst their friends,and it always takes one friend
Most of the time time at leastwith guys.
One guy will come as the guineapig of the group of the friends
, receive a treatment and thentell everybody else how it went
and then the rest will follow.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
So it's just kind of like one of those like things if
he, if mike does it, it's okayfor me to do it.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
That's what you're saying well, I think, I think in
this situation you wouldprobably be the one to come
first to then tell mike and theother guys at the firehouse how
it works, worked out, and thenthen, whether they tell you or
not, they will reach out to talkto me.
(16:39):
It's separately, but becauseI'm bound by, like hip-hop,
they're not gonna know or you'renot gonna know if they come or
not we're at the firehouse.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
We discuss everything .
Let's be honest, like I'll.
I'll hear about it and they'regonna tell me the entire entire
stories and probably, uh, expandupon the truth of it.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
So, yeah, we're already you know, eight inches
down.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
So do you think that the location of the practice um
determines how busy the practiceis?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
it can.
Yes, so like I live out in thecountry, the services that I
offer are less likely to be, Iwould say, searched for.
So my practice being downtownintentionally was because that's
where my whole career was, inDC.
That's where my clients were,so I didn't want to move away
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from them.
But I have clients who fly tome from all over the world to
have these things done and Iguess really if they want to see
you bad enough, it wouldn'treally matter where your
practice is.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Do you think that I'm guessing you're male dominated
now because of location, city,what you're offering?
Do you think your practice hasswayed into that males versus
females because of you offer avery specific elective surgery
or what do you think?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
So everything I do is non-surgical, so there's no
surgery, but it depends on whatis happening and the waves.
So I very specifically wantedto niche down and have very
specific services for specificindividuals.
My services, my practice, mystyle of practicing is not for
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everybody.
Like I'm not for the personwho's like price shopping, I'm
not for the person who wants todictate to me what their
treatment plans are or what theywant, where this is still a
form of medicine.
So you're coming to me becauseI'm the expert in this and then
I'm going to guide you on how tohelp you get to where you want
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to be, and so I don't know ifI'm still answering your
question, but that kind of ledto it comes in waves.
So sometimes it'll be very maledominated and then sometimes
it'll be female dominated incertain other treatments.
It just depends.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
There's no like predictability around it, really
so my, my, mine froze up therefor a second.
I had to log back in, but maybeyou said this how are you
marketing?
But I caught the part wherethis is the part of the city
you're from and I'm assuming alot of it at this point is word
of mouth, but how are yougenerating leads?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
in essence, so previously I was previous to
2025, I did strictly.
It was word of mouth, mywebsite, my SEO, and then this
this year, I took it to TikTokand started openly talking about
it on my Instagram.
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My Instagram was doing verywell prior.
It was something I was able toactively do for years until I
became a business owner and thenI didn't have the time to be as
present there.
But now, um, it's very muchjust like TikTok Instagram,
youtube, because I cannot do ads, like Google would ban me or
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block me why is that?
because it's around sexual.
It's a bit around um like.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Weight is also body image, so they're very uh strict
anything taboo is kind of likeshunned upon, and they, they,
they, they shadow you, they evenhousing, I get.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I used to get banned all the time from facebook
groups and stuff for postinglike a house for rent or for
sale, and then it's like thisgoes against our equal housing
something, or I'm like you know,but anyways.
So so you're using um, inessence, social media as your
main marketing tool.
So, other than your time onthat task, there's really no ad
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spend.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Other than your time on that task.
There's really no ad spend Onlywith like Google, like Google
ads.
In regards, to like keeping mySEO moving yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Okay, but still you've been able to build what
sounds like a pretty sufficientbusiness with I say just in
quotation marks what we wouldprobably have all grown up
knowing is like non-traditionalmarketing, which is becoming
more and more commonplace, Ithink now yes, so um.
(21:27):
So, regarding the, the stuff youinject, um and forgive me if I
use any verbiage that's uhfrowned upon in this space,
because I'm, frankly, I'msomewhat ignorant to it is is it
, um, like regulated by the FDAor any sort of outside vendor?
(21:48):
Like you're not just buyingthis stuff off of like Alibaba
type thing?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
absolutely not right.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Right, okay, I mean, I say that like kind of joking,
like where do you source thisstuff, I obviously there's some
liability for you Like, how doyou make sure what you're doing
or using is third party testedor whatever the case may be?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Sure.
So everything I utilize comesfrom the companies who make the
product to our FDA approved forfor maybe for use in the United
States.
Now the use of it may beoff-label use because no one's
going to pay to run a study toput filler in a penis, but
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because it is cleared to beutilized maybe in the lips or
the cheeks.
We already know it's utilizedin the body and then the clients
are made aware, and through myconsents, that it is a off-label
use of it.
But everything I use is I usenothing that comes from out of
the country sure nothing.
Everything's regulated.
(22:56):
All the medications, whetherit's if I do peptides, I get
them from pharmacies.
If it's anything injected, ithas to be something that was FDA
approved but it could be offlabel.
So for social media.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I just want to touch on that is that I'm looking at
your TikTok right now you have14,400 followers, 113,000 likes,
and, and on instagram you have20 400 followers.
Um, I'm not one of your uh,you're following me back.
I'm just saying uh, even thoughwe've been friends for 10 years
, and I'm allergic to you.
But that's okay, that's coolthat's okay.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Um, I had to about a year or so ago maybe longer now,
because time is just likeflying.
I had to cut back on things andthings I follow, because I
can't see what I need to seelike if there's experts in
something and they're postingcontent, I wanted to be able to
(23:54):
see that immediately and not beinundated with like people's
family photos or whatever dumbstuff they post.
I just couldn't do that.
There was a point where I hadpeople in my family be like you
don't follow us.
I'm like this is work, like Ineed to be on here to like this
is your funnel, see what I needto see.
(24:15):
That's like maybe the next thingor what people are doing in
other countries.
That's like maybe the nextthing or what people are doing
in other countries, like I thinkyou commented one time like oh,
we're not friends on facebook.
I literally have five friends onfacebook I think it's my dad,
my sister, my brother and thewhole point of my facebook is so
I could see horses that are atkill pens, chickens where
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they're at, etc.
So I can get what I need andget off like I don't use it as a
like way you use it the way wealways say you should, as a
creator, not a consumer, likeyou're creating content to
create business.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Ie top of funnel, so create content, not distractions
I was gonna say, like you youmentioned it, like I've heard
about like guys going to like Ithink it's Turkey for hair
replacement and stuff like that.
So how did you some of thesewe'll call it off label
procedures or uses, like, didyou go to a seminar?
Is there like a specialschooling?
(25:11):
Like, how do you, how did youdecide, like you know what this
Botox is good for the forehead,we're going to use it here or
here.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
So I think it kind of comes.
So that has that question haslike multiple answers.
But the reason I started thiswas because my husband my
husband's a purple heart veteranwho lost his legs in
Afghanistan after he stepped onan IED.
When he came back he had well,I think we're up to like 40
(25:41):
something surgeries at thispoint it might be a little
closer to 50, but we found overtime that there were some
roadblocks we were hitting inhis medical care around certain
needs that we were asking about,around sexual health or whatnot
, and found we were just beinggiven like here's a pill, here's
(26:04):
a pill.
And as a provider I was likethis isn't the answer.
And they're like he's fine,he's fine, I'm like, well, when
you have a testosterone levelthat's under 200 and you're in
your 20s, you're not fine.
So like let's solve for this.
And at a certain point I justlooked at him one day and I said
, forget it, I'm going to gotrain on this, I'm going to go
learn all this and I'm going tobring it into my practice,
(26:26):
because you are not the only onewho's getting told this and
just getting like bandaid afterbandaid instead of solving for a
cause.
So it started that way.
I sought out medical providerswho, like, specialize in sexual
health and I went and I trainedwith them.
I brought it back to mypractice.
Then I would find okay whenguys would talk to me about ED
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or Climax or certain situationsI had to solve for their
testosterone levels, hrt.
So then I brought HRT in, theirtestosterone levels, hrt.
So then I brought HRT in andthen HRT led into well, is there
anything you can do about sizeor this or that, which then led
me into fine, and I went andtrained on male enhancement and
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ultimately and peptides.
So ultimately what ended uphappening was I made a full
circle practice around thesethings that matter most to men
and that way they don't have toleave me unless they need
surgical intervention.
I can I send them to one oflike my mentors and colleagues
here who offers that.
But that's kind of whathappened.
(27:33):
So now in my practice, whetherthey're having erectile
dysfunction problems, hrt iswhat they're looking to achieve.
They want a peptide to healbetter or we're going to do
shockwave therapy.
They want joint injections foran injury, like they're in my
practice, and that's where theystay.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
That's a pretty.
I mean first off, my hats offto you and your husband.
I mean that's amazing and it'skind of I don't know if cool is
the right way to say it, butlike it's pretty cool that you
guys went through that togetherand you kind of like literally
built a business out ofsomething that was directly
impacting you and you werepassionate about so I think it's
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probably one of those likegiggle giggle type thing Like.
But then when you find thebackstory it's like well, that
is super cool.
And the one thing I know Aaronand Tyler and I were talking
about one time is like the shiftwork and the way men's
testosterone is impacted withour line of work is actually
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pretty significant and, to thebest of my knowledge, not widely
discussed or publicized, butthat is something that has been
a pretty common theme you keephearing more and more about
every year is the testosteronedrop and then also testicular
cancer and prostate cancerwithin the fire service is
pretty significant.
And there for a long time Idon't think there was just a lot
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of talk about it because it wasjust like almost like a rite of
passage, battle scar type thing, where now it's become a lot of
talk about it because it wasjust like almost like a rite of
passage battle scar type thing,where now it's become a lot more
prevalent, where people are atleast from my perspective
talking about it.
More preventative care is moretalked about, cleaning turnout
gear is more talked about, but,um, still I don't think it's
where it needs to be.
(29:16):
But it's getting there and uh,it kind of, like you said,
removing some of that taboodiscussion about it is probably
the first step.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Well, the internet's great because it gets
information out, but it alsogets wrong information out.
So recently we hit a reallygreat milestone with
testosterone in the past likethree weeks that they finally
are removing the black boxwarning saying that it causes
cardiac problems in men oranyone.
But like that wasn't true.
(29:45):
Studies showed that that wasn'ttrue and finally you were able
to get that removed, which washuge the other thing people
don't, on injections, on botox,on what's what was removed trt
that it causes um cardiaccomplications or problems.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, it was a part of the black box warning of
testosterone.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
So finally, after studies had shown that this was
not the case, we were able toget that removed this year.
So that was huge.
The other thing is we'refinding men who are younger are
requiring testosteronereplacement earlier than, say,
your grant, our grandfathers did.
Now whether that has to do withthe things we consume, exposed
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to, etc.
Who knows at this point, butlike there is very obvious data
that's showing that men areyounger and younger needing this
supplementation.
Um, the other thing is a lot ofpeople put out there you don't
need this.
Why would you add this?
Well, your men are born withtestosterone.
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They need testosterone tofunction.
So, like, when your levels aretoo low, we give it back to you
to get you back up to where yourbody likes it, so you can still
optimize, like your function.
And it's not just for ed, it'slike how you feel, are you tired
?
Some guys get treated fordepression and put on depression
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meds when really, if we correcttheir testosterone, they'll
feel better and they may notneed an antidepressant.
So there's more to it than Ithink people realize as well.
As, like when people don'tunderstand, I tell them well, if
you remove your thyroid or yourthyroid doesn't operate well,
we give you thyroid meds so itstill functions.
(31:31):
So why is that different forthe pituitary gland and the
testicles when it comes totestosterone?
And then people are like, oh,that makes sense.
Or some will say it's a steroid,you're going to abuse this,
it's whatever.
Well, when it's done in theright way, in a controlled
setting, you have improvement inlife.
The guys who are getting itfrom their buddy at the gym and
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abusing it and taking too much,that's a different story.
But that's like the same thingwith oxycodone when you take it
the right way after surgery,your pain is relieved.
You go on with your life whenyou're better.
If you abuse it and take thewhole pill and bottle in a day
or two, it again becomes adifferent story.
So people need to just realizekind of perspective and think
(32:17):
like logically around some ofthis stuff and there'll be less
um deterred, I think so just tojust to enhance or expand upon
that.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
so I've obviously you guys know that I used to be
bigger into the fitness industryand I used to work with
firefighters and and uh and alot of military guys.
We had walter reed in dc.
We used to have access to themduring the early parts of the
war that your husband got hurton and and a lot of the things
that you see was, as youmentioned, was testosterone, and
I think that a lot of guysdon't realize they have low
testosterone because they'reirritable, sexual performance is
(32:51):
down, erectile dysfunction isdown, depression's up, there's a
whole number of things thatlooks like it kind of mirrors
PTSD, but it's actually, if youlook at the chemistry of the
body that it's actuallysomething like that that you
need to get tested for.
The problem, or one of theobstacles I see, is that if me
and Mike go to the doctor, ourstandard uh complete blood count
panel or or, uh or or test doesnot include testosterone unless
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requested, and a lot of timesit's not covered by insurance.
So do you have any opinions onthat?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yes.
So that's why I do not operatethrough insurance purposely for
this.
So there are FDA likeguidelines on how to get it
covered by insurance.
So, for example, men would haveto have a testosterone level
under 300 twice and then theyneed to stay within a certain
range for the insurance to coverit.
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Where, in my practice, I havecash pay labs that's a complete
panel of everything to see howyour whole body's operating,
because they all need each otherto be successful, and if I were
to put those same labs throughyour insurance, the bill you
would get would probably be inthe thousands.
Where in my practice, it's onlya couple hundred dollars to
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have all the answers.
I'm also able to treat youbased on how you feel, side
effects, etc.
So you may be 40 and have atestosterone level of 306.
I take care of of you, eventhough your insurance or your
provider who'd take insurancewould say, well, you're not
under 300 right okay, but he'scomplaining of like made
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abdominal fat, he's tired,fatigued, low interest in sexual
activity, libido, etc.
Like he has all the symptoms.
So we're gonna let him sit tillhe drops six more points.
So that's kind of how mypractice differs we get to
actually solve for um problems.
But I do make it a point totell guys like testosterone
(34:49):
isn't like the magic shot wherethere's still other aspects of
your life you have to um beactive and take part in to still
make you feel better, if thatmakes sense.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I don't want too much do much.
Do too much cock focusing andum and TRT focusing.
Like what other?
What are your other top onesthat you've worked on in your
practice?
Like what else?
Is somebody coming to see youon a regular basis?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, so I mean, a lot of my stuff is around
erectile dysfunction, male girthenhancement, weight management,
hormone replacement therapy.
So the other would be theweight management.
Again, that was something thatclients who maybe didn't qualify
(35:36):
through the brand name medswere able to come to me and
utilize compounded form.
That's all kind of now changinghere in the next couple months.
Well, in the next couple monthswe're going to see more people
probably on the brand due to thelawsuits with Eli Lilly on
terzeptide.
So that's something else I do.
(35:58):
But within the practice I don'tonly utilize GLPs, I utilize
oral medications, I utilizepeptides.
So I kind of make aindividualized plan for each
person, based on their outcomes,to help them feel their best.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Can you explain what those are Like?
What is a peptide versus aninjectable?
Speaker 1 (36:17):
So a peptide is.
Well, what do you mean?
Because the GLPs are alsopeptides.
So there's the differencebetween it's just the way
they're made and the moleculesand how they function within our
body, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I guess I'm trying to normalize some of this stuff,
because a lot of people are, Iwouldn't say, say, scared, but
they're intimidated by aninjectable, or they're
intimidated by pills, or they'renot comfortable with it because
they don't understand what itdoes.
Like, how do you make somebodymore comfortable and show them
like, okay, this is what we'regoing to do, this is your game
plan, this is how we're going toexecute it and this is what you
need to do?
Because I know, like even rightnow, I have a friend of mine at
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work like his.
His wife is on ozempic and shewon't give herself a shot she's
scared to, so his, her husbandhas to give her the shot.
So, like, how do you makesomebody comfortable in these
arenas?
Like, how do I come in there?
I'm like all right, erica, thisis what's wrong with me.
Fix me.
Like, how do you?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
so what for the clients that are scared of
needles?
And I'll tell you that therethere's a wide variety for all
the services I offer.
Um, when it comes to the menfor like enhancement, you're
numb, so they don't feelanything and once they realize
they don't feel anything, itgoes away.
For people who can't injectthemselves or refuse to inject
(37:29):
themselves, we inject theirfirst dose of whatever it is in
office together, and the needleis.
I tell them each step we'regoing through it to make sure
they're doing it right.
So when they go home becausethey can do it, they just have
this thought in their head thatit's really more than it is.
So I will hold their hand andhelp them.
(37:51):
And then, when it's in and theyhave this, a moment where they
say, oh, that's not that bad,then they're on their, they're
out.
It's usually just helpingpeople get over the
psychological side of it.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I'm like I'm not going to inject you.
I'm going to inject you with asmall needle, small gauge needle
, not this um straw fromMcDonald's.
Like you have to realize thatthere's different gauges.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Right, right.
So, like with HRT, most guysexpect that I'm going to give
them a huge needle to dointramuscular injection, where I
actually do subcutaneous,because certain doses can be
done subcutaneously, like in theabdomen, and that's a little
easier for some people to takeon.
There are other options where,like I could say, we could do
(38:32):
like an oral option for thosemen who are really just not
there yet.
Or if someone says I can't, Ican't do that, I can't do it,
well, we take it out of maybetheir treatment plan and explain
you just may not get thesebenefits, and then they live
with what we've come up with,minus this one thing, and
realize, oh, maybe I really doneed that.
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And then they'll come back whenthey're ready and we add it and
then they feel better.
So sometimes you got to meetpeople where they're at but give
them the expectations that,like, you want to get here, but
what you want to do right now isonly going to get you to here.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Mike, I know you got to roll out here shortly.
Do you want to add anything?
You're on mute, bro.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Still on mute bro still on mute.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Sorry it was all jacked up, but no, I mean, this
is one of those topics likeobviously, uh, if you can tell,
we haven't talked much aboutthis, but uh, it's definitely
something.
It's, like, I would say,interesting and, like I said,
the it's just cool how you kindof came into this world of uh
medicine, because it's not whatI anticipated, frankly, but, um,
(39:50):
yeah, I do have to hop off, butyou know, I greatly appreciate
you sharing this and if anybodywas interested in kind of
finding out more obviously, wetalked about your social media
accounts.
Like what's the best way?
If uh, male, female, whatever,um wanted more information,
where should they reach out?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
so I always recommend people for education purposes
follow my socials.
So it's simply just thedistrict injector.
But you can also go to mywebsite, the district
injectorcom, and you'll seethere all the services.
There's a ton of information onit.
For men, there's a big buttonthat's like for men so they can
go right there and findeverything they need.
(40:31):
But they can always call theoffice too and talk to my office
manager and get moreinformation.
A lot of people's questions orneeds really are solved for in
an appointment with me.
So there's that.
I encourage people to always dothe appointment with me to have
their questions, answers andconcerns like spoken to so they
(40:54):
can have a better idea of whatit all looks like.
They don't have to be afraid totalk to me or come in.
I have a very like warmpractice, comfortable.
It's not very sterile.
I made it so people feel likethey're comfortable and they can
talk and they realize at acertain point they're like I'm
also a human.
So then, kind of, they can lettheir guard down and we can get
(41:15):
the conversation started.
So that's what I would say.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Eric, we'll stay on with me.
I got a couple more questionsfor you, and then we're going to
have some cock talk here.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
All right, erica, it was nice meeting you.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
My pleasure, thank you.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
All right, erica.
So what's what's some of theobstacles that you've overcome?
Not just being a nurse with aspecialty, but also a very
specific focus on practice, like, what are some of your
obstacles you've had to overcome?
Speaker 1 (41:49):
So I think it's really important to know and I
think this is for any businessowner success doesn't happen
overnight.
Like you just don't open yourdoors to a business and like
people start just walkingthrough the door, I think you
attract the type of client orperson you want in your business
(42:11):
.
So for me it was reallyimportant to have a client who
appreciated the amount of time Igive them, my education, my
training, those things.
So I understood that, likegrowing by word of mouth may
take longer, but the people inmy practice were going to value
me as much as I value them.
(42:32):
The other thing is, like youknow, the internet can be a wild
place.
I get drugged, like they dragme for certain things, like
they'll say the one that cracksme up always is like I bet her
husband doesn't ask her how herday is, or like whatever, or she
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must be the dominant one, orcertain things, and I die
because I'm just like you guysdon't realize, like I originally
did all this for him, maybe notthe one specific treatment that
they're interested in, but thevision behind it started that
way.
It started for veterans itstarted for then it led.
(43:13):
I grew up in a law enforcement,fire family Like it started.
For those people Because I'malso one of them, so I think
that was something to overcome.
Like people just thinkingaesthetics is always a money
grab or they just want moremoney no, I actually care about
my patients.
Like I don't do this for themoney, I do it for their
(43:34):
outcomes.
There's that.
That's tough.
I think people don't.
Something to overcome is likemy husband gets up to go to work
and he leaves by 4am.
I shortly follow he's home inthe afternoon.
I'm at work till 9pm in thecity and then I drive home and
(43:56):
he's probably already sleepingand I still need to work.
So, like your personal lifedoes, like you have to make more
of an effort in your personallife and there's times where
doing fun things aren't thething you get to do.
You have to make a decision onlike payrolls do, or the
insurance is ready to be renewed, or all my licenses need
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something, so and then on top ofit, we have a farm, maybe an
animal needs something, sothere's like always something
and you just have to be preparedat a certain point to have to
hire people or you're going tobottleneck yourself out really.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
The joke I made earlier was like Mikey can't run
away from Erica with theneedles whenever she wants to
inject them, but she doesn't doall that stuff and he doesn't
allow it.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
No, so the biggest thing he always did allow me to
do were like what I call in mypractice the D shot.
It was things that we weresearching for in the beginning,
when I first started sexualhealth.
He is not interested inskincare.
He's not interested in Botox inhis face.
He does let me do the jointinjections like the PRP joint
(45:03):
injections due to, like theinjuries he has, or like
shockwave therapy to joints aswell for injuries.
He does follow on, like thesupplements that I offer in my
practice, or like peptides likethepc or um, certain other ones
that I just won't blast everyoneon here, but, um, just because,
(45:25):
um, but yes, so he's a, he's apart of certain parts of it,
he's not a part of like thebeauty side of it.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
I would say yeah, what I think is funny is that,
like me and you, we've beenfriends for about a decade now
and anybody listening I'mallergic to her, so we couldn't
hang out for more.
We couldn't be friends for morethan a couple hours at a time,
because the hay and the horsesand the stuff she'd bring home
from the barn for some reasonI've got an allergy as I've
gotten, as I've gotten into myold age.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
So do you think?
Speaker 2 (45:56):
what are your plans for the near future, like what's
your goals for the near future?
Speaker 1 (46:01):
So ultimately my goal , at least through this year, is
to continue to niche down themen's services to eventually
bring on a provider who canoperate and do services that I'm
not offering, so maybe someonewho's more interested in the
Botox filler female side of thepractice.
(46:25):
So then I will be like ifclients want to see me, that'll
be more towards certain services, but that's down the line.
Ultimately, it will be memoving out of the business and
running like I will instead ofme being the business I will be
me moving out of the businessand running Like I will instead
of me being the business I willbe.
Running the business isultimately what the goal would
(46:45):
be, because the whole point ofstarting your own business is to
have the freedom.
So where people strive forwanting the money of a business,
I'm striving for time, liketime to be back at my home, time
to be on my farm, time to ridemy horse, like certain things.
Like that is more important tome.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
You know it's crazy that a lot of people think that,
like, wealth is money but a lotof time, it's freedom of time
as well, and a lot of peopledon't understand that until they
they're, they never have freetime because they're tied up
with something that they don'tenjoy.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
So hats off to you for recognizing that earlier in
our lives, right, I had a greatbusiness coach who when I spoke
to him he used it as an exampleand it was great.
So he explained to other peoplethat were sitting there.
Like I could throw money atErica all day, but she doesn't
want money, she wants time.
So as a business owner also,you need to know what your
(47:38):
employees want.
So if they're not driven bymoney, you need to give them
what they're driven by.
And so I have an individual.
He doesn't care about money, hewants to be able to, like, have
his weekends or have a life orbe able to do things.
So that's how I reward him isby giving him those things when,
(47:58):
if another person's driven bymoney, then I would do like,
maybe, bonus structure byreaching certain milestones.
So that's something too, andwe're not.
I went to school to be a nurse.
I didn't go to school to belike a business owner.
I don't have like a businessdegree, so a lot of it you learn
as you go, but you have to justtake it and move, take it and
move, and I don't think I thinkpeople get discouraged when they
(48:25):
get hit by something, but whenowning a business, but you just
got to take it, learn from itand go.
You can't sit in it I thinkthat's big.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
So you mentioned I want to touch on this too as a
business owner you decided toget a coach.
At what point did you decide Ineed to get a coach, and how did
you find them?
Speaker 1 (48:37):
So this gentleman is not actively my coach.
He was at a conference that Iwent to for men and when I never
hired an actual business coachbecause I just never felt like
they related or they understoodme or like we connected.
But when I met this man, heactually specializes in teaching
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fitness coaches how to growtheir business and how to be
successful.
But when he spoke he spoke mylanguage and like when he says
things, even though he's tellingit to business coaches, I
understand him fully.
Where previous people I triedto work with um, just I didn't
(49:22):
have that with them, so I likedthat.
I also saw like he had hisfamily maybe it was, I think,
originally in England and now hehas them in Dubai due to his
like success and they leftbecause that was his goal.
The freedom was to get there,um.
So it was cool because you'veseen his journey.
That shows what he's talkingabout isn't just throwing it out
(49:43):
, he's living it.
You know when you need one, Ithink, when you have to just
accept that like you don't knoweverything and you have to
offload things to other people,and that's kind of the same way
I decided when I needed a cp,like my cpa and all her team to
take over doing certain thingsfor me or my social media crew,
(50:06):
like I couldn't be everythingand I'm still in a place where
I'm solving for all the things Istill can't be, but I'm doing
it slowly, letting it go.
You just have to know.
You know when your growth isn'tis stopped because you're still
doing paperwork, I would say.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
But don't set yourself short for a $5 an hour,
a $10 an hour job when you'remaking more.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
It's 25 or 30 or 50 or a hundred.
So like don't shortchange yourtime, because you need to use it
.
The biggest thing that a lot ofpeople don't understand is, if
you're a business owner, youhave to buy your time back.
So, whether it be a cpa hiringsomebody to do your books or
hiring somebody to social media,so you're not on an app, like
looking at your phone, liketrying to cut it into whatever
right, so how are you okay?
So how about the rest of thosethings?
(50:53):
Like, how are you finding otherpeople to buy your time back?
Speaker 1 (50:57):
So I utilize.
I'm in a lot of groups for,like medical providers and
specifically like the CPA, Iwanted to find one that
specialized in what my practicekind of operated as like if,
like someone who understood medspas and the growth of that way,
because I found people who justdid everyday people's personal,
(51:21):
like taxes and stuff reallyweren't looking at how I could
optimize or grow or where Icould cut back or whatever it is
they're supposed to help us do.
And so I found her and the coolthing is that she's also grown
as I've grown, like she'schanged her business.
She's changed the way she doesthings too.
(51:41):
And I realized when I had like10 months of itemization of the
last, the last year, when I itwas tax time, like I'm like I
don't have time for this and Ireally don't want to give up my
Sunday to be going clothingallowance.
Like business expect expense.
You know like who cares, sothey do that for me and they do
(52:02):
it in real time, like, which isawesome.
Um, who else do I have?
The media guys?
Um, they were like you run yourown social media, great.
Like you don't need us.
I'm like, no, you don'tunderstand.
Like I do, because the hardestpart of my day is actually
posting stuff or coming up withthe ideas for content or
(52:23):
whatever, and it just got to apoint where I chose to not be
present because I was doingpaperwork.
So with them I take care of allof the content and they help me
and they post whatever.
Some of it is me, some of it'sthem, but the reality is I don't
have to like it's not on mybrain all day, which anybody
(52:45):
listening, especially the guys.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
Please don't send her cock pictures on her social
media, because it might be herteam is actually looking at them
and it's truly unprofessional.
I know that you've had someissues in the past with people
like asking inappropriatequestions or inappropriate
messages.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
Yeah, yeah, my only fans those are coming.
Yeah, the guys who send their.
So this is still medicine.
Social media platforms ormessages is not the place to
think you're gonna have aconsultation with me.
So the consultation occurs inthe office and that's when I do
(53:21):
the assessments.
So the ones who just startsending me photos like block,
block or like no responsebecause I'm not, I'm not
engaging, I can just see firemennow.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
There's some cops now who are listening to this like,
oh, he's looking fine forsocial media.
Oh, she's very attracted.
Let me send her a cock pictureand ask her if I can get bigger.
Like that's not how it works,you need to know, the social
media is for marketing, and thein-house um, in-house meeting
with with erica or one of herteam members is going to be
where you have a uh, determinewhich course of action you're
(53:55):
going to take.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
So right this is virtual yeah.
So, like I have guys who comefrom all over the place, we do
virtual.
You don't have to come into theoffice until the day of
treatment.
So sometimes people are like,well, I have to travel to you,
that's totally fine.
We do the virtual consultation,we come up with the plan, we
talk about it and then wecoordinate with my practice for,
(54:18):
like, when you plan to fly inexpectations etc and then go
from there.
So, um, I just ask people torealize like we're on eastern
standard time.
So when you're booking anappointment, it's for eastern
standard time, and a lot ofpeople are like, if they're late
or don't show up, I can't helpthat.
Everything says Easternstandard time and you wait until
(54:41):
your time zone.
That's like yeah, or like, yeah, it's usually the Pacific
standard time.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
All right, I'm not going to hound on that too much.
Do you ever miss going back toemergency surgery versus
elective?
Speaker 1 (55:01):
Like in the ICU.
There are days.
There are days where I do misslike the adrenaline from being
like the last line of defensefor people.
Sometimes I do miss that, LikeI worked for three, I did my
three 12s which aren't onlytwelves and then the next
(55:22):
several days I get to just dowhatever around the farm.
But then I remember certainthings about it that it kind of
goes away Like like, oh, that'snice to like, yeah, yeah, I
don't need that anymore, it's astressor.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
I mean, everything's gonna be like what do you say?
Pick your, pick your hard.
Whether it be, uh, you want towork hard and make more money
and buy your time back, or youwant to work hard and get the
enjoyment, the excitement,everything's going to have
negative consequences orpositive consequences.
Just, you got to pick your hard.
I'd rather be.
Uh, I'd rather work hard now soI can have an easier life later
on.
Um, which it seems like whatyou guys are doing, because you
(56:06):
already have the farm in place.
I'm a little bit jealous, orenvious, I should say, because
this is the position that I wantto be in a couple of years when
I retire.
Uh, but you worked really,really hard to get in that
position now, whereas a lot ofpeople they were partying and
yeah, yeah, where you werefocused on, I'm going to do this
, I'm going to do this, I'mgoing to do this Like.
Honestly, 10 years ago, when webecame friends, I wouldn't have
(56:27):
felt that you were going to bea cock doc.
I thought, like you were likenurse for life, like I see you
for life and it's great.
I really enjoyed watching yoursuccess over the last 10 years.
So congratulations.
Speaker 1 (56:41):
Thank you.
I mean, you have babies now.
Yeah, I almost have two Give mea couple more weeks.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
I'll have two.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
I know it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
All right, is there anything that we missed or I
missed that you want to talkabout?
Speaker 1 (56:56):
No, I don't.
I mean, I think a lot of myservices and what I offer is
pretty like self.
You know they're pretty clearon the website and when people
don't understand, I just saylike I'd encourage you to just
book the consultation, have thetime, the 30 minutes, with me.
It is actually with me.
Some people get confused andthink they're going to talk and
(57:17):
see someone else it's me andthen kind of go from there.
I promise you that there hasnot been something said to me
that has been surprising.
You are not going to saysomething to me.
Someone else already hasn't orasked me about or trust me, like
most people think.
She's going to remember me,she's going to know.
(57:38):
This is weird.
Why would I say this?
I promise you someone has saidor done something weirder and I
will not like I do not come homeand eat dinner and discuss what
I talked to you about, likethat's what I think people are
worried about.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
And I don't think Mike really gives a damn that
what you're doing with the uncleat work, like, like yes of damn
that what you're doing with?
Dealing with work like like yes, you personally, but like not
the specific the guys.
Yeah, he wants to hear it no,we don't.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
We don't even talk about the things.
It's like, hey, how was yourday cool.
And then we move on to like thenext thing.
Um, I always used to tellpeople in the hospital when,
like I'd have to clean them, I'dbe like your butt's not the
first butt I've seen, it's notthe last butt I've seen, and I'm
not going home to talk aboutyour butt.
And then they laugh and theyget over it.
So, yes, it's uncomfortable forpeople because they never grew
(58:28):
up talking about it, or theirfamily, their friends, their
community doesn't talk about it.
But you can still talk to meabout it, it's okay, I promise.
Speaker 2 (58:35):
Erica, if you can go back and give your younger self
some advice Now, this could be10 years ago when we became
friends.
It could be 20 years ago whenyou first started in the nursing
Like.
What would you give youryounger self advice about?
Speaker 1 (58:47):
I probably would have had more fun then, because and
to tell myself to live in themoments that I'm having and
appreciate them, because I'mvery much the type where, okay,
I accomplished this part, nowwhat's the next thing?
Like there's never actuallylike sitting in what I've
(59:07):
accomplished.
Um, and I'll make records in myown practice and I'll be like I
should have, I should have madethat higher, I should have, I
could have done better.
And I'll even have my officemanager be like are you crazy?
You like tripled, whatever.
And I'm like, yeah, but I couldhave.
And so sometimes it's justrealizing like, like you said,
(59:31):
like look how you've grown.
I don't see that for myself.
Like I don't see all thoseaccomplishments where other
people will say, like look atwhat you've done, like there's
people who don't do anything,because I'm always striving and
I need to learn to like sit init.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
I.
So I see that with a lot ofbusiness owners, especially
friends of mine, who are, Iwouldn't say overachievers, but
they look in hindsight andhindsight's always 2020.
It's the clear vision.
You look back and it's like,okay, I could have done this.
I need to change this.
Like this is what.
Like learn from it, but don'tbeat yourself up, because your
future endeavors as long as youlearn from your past, and your
future endeavors will be easier.
I don't think a lot of peoplethey recognize when they're
(01:00:10):
beating themselves up versuscelebrating the accomplishments
that they've achieved.
So that's why I like to giveyou a little bit of praise is
because I think sometimes youjust you're too tired, too
overwhelmed to focus on yourachievements, and I think
everybody else sees it, butpeople like you don't or haven't
learned to yet.
Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
I should say yeah, travel more, take more breaks,
enjoy the moment.
Those are big things all right.
Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Well, I hear the pitter patter of my uh, my one
and a half year old upstairsbanging.
So we've done, erica.
Thank you so much for hoppingon, I've been trying to talk to
you for a while.
Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
All right, babe, I'll talk to you soon and tell Mike
I said hi.
Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Thank you, I will.
Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Have a good day.
Thanks, everybody, thank you umyou.
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