June 20, 2025 • 10 mins
UNOC 2025 brought major headlines in ocean conservation—from billions pledged to protect biodiversity, to significant movement on the High Seas Treaty. In this episode, Andrew Lewin returns from the UN Ocean Conference in Nice, France, with a firsthand account of what was announced, what was promised, and what might actually happen.
Ocean finance was a hot topic this year. Governments, development banks, and private investors pledged record-breaking funding to tackle everything from plastic pollution to marine ecosystem restoration. But Andrew dives into why these billions still fall short—and which key ocean players stepped up (and who didn’t).
High Seas Treaty ratification took center stage, with 18 new countries signing on and momentum building fast. The episode also breaks down 30x30 targets, new marine protected areas—including a massive one in French Polynesia—and growing global support for a deep-sea mining moratorium. Andrew adds his personal observations and concerns about whether this enthusiasm will translate into real protection for the ocean.
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(00:00):
I am back from
(00:00):
the UN Oceans
Conference in
Nice, France.
Beautiful
country, a lot of
stuff announced,
including a lot
of money that was
made for ocean
conservation,
but not enough to
really protect
the ocean. Quite
a bit shy.
We're also going
to talk about a
lot of
announcements
that were made in
terms of high
seas treaty,
in terms of the
global plastic
(00:21):
pollution
treaties and the
commitments
for that,
as well as marine
protected areas
announcements.
So we're going to
talk all about
that on today's
episode of the
How to Protect
the Ocean
podcast.
Let's
start the show.
Hey everybody,
welcome back to
another exciting
episode of the
How to Protect
the Ocean
podcast.
I'm your host,
Andrew Lewin.
This is the
podcast where you
find out what's
happening with
the ocean,
how you could
speak up for the
(00:41):
ocean, what you
can do to live
for a better
ocean by
taking action.
On today's
episode, we're
going to be
talking about my
trip to Nice,
France, not my
20th anniversary
that I celebrated
in these France
with my wonderful
wife, but we're
going to be
talking
about the UN
Oceans
Conference, which
is one of the
things that I
went to Nice for,
not only spend a
wonderful
time with my
wife, but also go
to the
conference, see
(01:01):
what's happening,
connect with
friends, connect
with colleagues
and meet new
people and new
friends at these
conferences,
which I
love to do.
Now I'm going to
just right off
the bat, I'm
going to say this
was very
different
from the
conferences that
I normally go to.
Now, normally
there's science
conferences that
I go to, and
this had a
science component
that was done the
week before I
went. I went from
the 11th to the
15th. This lasted
basically from
the second to the
(01:22):
13th, but there
was a lot of
stuff that
was said.
There was a lot
of stuff done and
it was a little
bit different in
terms that
normally
when you go
to a conference
that I normally
go to, it's at
one hotel. Either
you stay in that
hotel or you
just walk to it
from a different
Airbnb or a hotel
and you spend
most of the time
in different
rooms and
sessions and
workshops,
speaking with
people,
connecting with
(01:42):
individuals
and friends
and colleagues
and so forth,
maybe potentially
collaborating on
new projects. And
when you talk
with that and you
network, this was
a little bit
different, not
the networking
part. There was a
lot of that, but
the way
everything was
dispersed across
the city, it was
a little bit
hectic. There
was a blue zone,
which all the
delegations were
there, like all
the government
delegations and
the big
announcements
were done, which
I'll talk about
in just a sec.
And then there
was a green
(02:02):
zone, which was
open to the
public. This has
never happened
before. This is
the third
time this
conference is
done. It never
happened before
in Barcelona. So
this was cool
that they
opened it
to the public.
There's drawings
for kids. We
could talk about
startups. We
talked about
fishing. We
talked about
everything. There
was a little
presentations
going around, but
it was really
cool. Show some B
roll from some of
the pictures and
videos that I
took the city of
nice is
absolutely
gorgeous. There's
(02:23):
a lot of water
there to remind
you to connect to
the water. I got
to jump in the
water with my
friend Angela
Villa Gomez and a
number of
different people
that I met there
in the morning
before my
co-hosting
session for the
undertow that I
co-founded
started. And we
had a great time
there, but there
were a lot of
like, there's a
green zone that
you can go to.
There was a lot
of side events.
So it made it
pretty hectic to
run around and it
was hot. And so
(02:43):
if you're wearing
conference
attire, it was
very hot,
very sticky.
But it was a lot
of fun to go to.
But some of these
announcements
that I'm going to
talk about, I'm
going to
interject as I
recount these
announcements
were very
interesting. I
say to you, take
it with a grain
of salt. There's
a lot of stuff
that sounds
really great, but
don't hold your
breath. A lot of
what I've learned
from a lot of
these
announcements by
governments and
different NGOs
and stuff like
that is like, I
(03:04):
will believe it
when I see it.
And that's all
I'm going to say
there, but it is
in a positive
direction, which
is great. So
we're going to
talk about that.
I'm going to run
through it pretty
quickly. There
was some heavy
financial
commitments,
including 3
billion euros
from the European
Investment
Bank. And
the European Asian Development
Bank to tackle
ocean plastic
pollution through
2030, which is
great. Not much
detail in that,
but that was
great
announcement. 2.5
(03:25):
billion US from
the US Bank of
Latin America and
Caribbean CAF for
sustainable
marine
investments from
2025 to 2030.
There's a 119
million euro via
World Bank for
climate
resilience in
Guinea's coasts.
There is 2
million euro for
Mediterranean
ecosystems in
North Africa and
1.8 million euro
to reinforce
marine protected
areas in Costa
(03:45):
Rica and in the
Mediterranean.
Which is great.
And then we saw
private
investments when
capital raised
160 million euro
towards the Swen
Blue Ocean 2 fund
targeted 300
million euro for
biodiversity
focused startups,
which is great to
see. And then of
course, bird life
and philanthropic
public investors
committed to 8.7
billion euro over
(04:06):
5 years for ocean
conservation.
Now, if I say
this, despite
that influx,
which was great
to see, it still
falls short of
the estimated 175
billion dollars
that are needed
annually to
protect the ocean.
So that's the
financial
investments.
Again, I'll
believe that when
I see all those
investments be
spent and all
those projects
come through, not
all them will be
successes, but at
least there's
money going into
(04:26):
those projects.
And for the high
seas, the treaty
advances. So the
high seas treaty
needs to be
ratified. They
need 60 countries
to ratify those.
At the end of
this conference,
there were 50.
They added 12
countries,
bringing a total
to 50. Just 10
short of the 60
needed to bring
the high seas
treaty into
force. India did
pledge to ratify
soon, reinforcing
the movement or
(04:46):
momentum of the treaty.
So they're going to be able to
move forward with
that. Once the 60
are reached,
there will be 120
day countdown to
an enactment with
COP 1 scheduled
within a year
after that. The
new marine
protected areas
and 30 by 30
progress, the
niece declaration
of reaffirmed
support for 30 by
30. The target
marking progress
from 8% over 10%
ocean protection.
(05:08):
France, Costa
Rica, Cabo Verde
and others
announced new
marine protected
areas including
French
Polynesians, 5
million dollars
square kilometer
sanctuary. The
world's largest
MPA when I say
this though, take
it with a grain
of salt. Some of
these MPAs still
allow fishing
activities like
trawling into it.
The movie ocean,
which I reviewed
last week, really
played an
important role in
(05:28):
the discussion of
banning trawling
within marine
protected areas.
That was brought
up a number of
times throughout
UNOC, the United
Nations Ocean
Conference. And
that was the
purpose of the
movie. It
actually mentions
the United
Nations Ocean
Conference at the
end of that movie
and the credits
before the
credits run. And
so that was a big
topic of
discussion within
that. I don't
know what the
announcements
were around that.
But the pressure
was put on,
(05:49):
especially on the
UK for allowing
that to happen.
Deep sea mining
caution. So a
growing coalition
of 37 countries
called for
moratorium on
deep sea mining.
Advocating a
precautionary
halt, pending
better science
and governance.
French and
international
leaders
underscore the
need to pause on
seabed mining. Because
essentially we
don't know a lot
about the seabed.
I think we've
mapped 25% of the
seabed. We still
(06:09):
have a lot more
to do. And we
just don't know
what we're gonna
screw up. And
we're really good
at screwing
things up. So
that's something
that we have to
be careful of.
Combating
plastics and
ghost gear. So
the Declaration
urges against
plastic pollution
and ghost gear
pushing the
fisheries and
agricultural
organization and
other
organizations to
ramp up efforts
to clean those
up. Countries
like Australia
recommitted to a
(06:29):
global plastic
treaty, which was
gone through the
process over the
last year and a
half. We've
covered it on the
podcast here. It
didn't come out
great. I'm not
sure we'll have
to cover where
the plastic
treaty is now,
but they've done
all their
meetings. And I
don't know if it
was actually
agreed upon.
We'll have to
talk about that
soon. Confirm
support for the
high seas
protection
Australia.
And vowed to ban
bottom trawling
in 30% of its
waters by 2030,
(06:50):
which I assume
that will be
marine protected
areas given the
30 by 30 target.
Improving ocean
governance and
finance. So
investors voice
concerns that
unclear
regulations and
weak ocean data
are limiting the
private sector
involvement. Take
that with a grain
of salt, because
usually it's the
private investors
and private
sector that are
causing a lot of
the problems. I'd
love to see more
investment from
the private
sector and
(07:11):
getting them to
help clear up
these
regulations. But
a lot of times
it's usually
private sector
that's working
against the
private sector.
And so that's an
interesting
comment by some
of the people who
were talking
about these are
the big
announcements.
These investors
call for stronger
governance, which
is absolutely
needed subsidy
reform, which is
absolutely needed
a lot of
subsidies in
terms of money
goes towards
(07:31):
fishing subsidies
and more
transparent
frameworks to
mobilize private
capital. Now,
just to go back
to the subsidies.
What I meant by
fishing subsidies
is giving it to
the big
industries, not
the artisanal
fishers. It's the
big industries
that usually get
a lot of the
subsidies and
usually are the
biggest problems.
So now the NICE
ocean action plan
includes a
political
declaration and
(07:52):
over 800 plus
voluntary
commitments from
governments, UN
agencies,
scientists and
NGOs, UN
secretary
general, I think
that's how you
pronounce the
name, stress the
shift from a
plunder to
protection, which
is obvious. We
need that shift.
Urging world
leaders to
protect at least
30% of their
oceans by 2030.
Will that happen?
It doesn't look
(08:12):
like it's likely. I'm hopeful that it will get close. Hopefullythere'll be a big push. But will we worry about that?
It's not going to
be a paper MPa,
it's got to be a
proper MPa. It's
got to work. It's
got to be
enforced. It's
got to be managed
(08:33):
properly. It's
got to be done
well. So bottom
line is the nice
conference achieve major boosts in financing, conservation targets and 3d progress.But funding is not going to help. It's got to be a way to deal with the
achieve major
boosts in
financing,
conservation targets, and
treaty progress,
but funding gaps
still remain,
and the
scientists warned
that the
political
decoration
doesn't fully
address damaging
practices
like harmful
fishing,
underwater noise,
and the climate
(08:53):
role of marine
species.
Still, global
ambition is
stronger,
and with the high
seas treaty
nearing
ratification,
the world may
finally
be heading
toward legally
binding
international
ocean protection,
which would be
nice to see.
I just don't know
if that's
gonna happen.
So we're gonna
have to see if
that happens,
but the biggest
thing that you
could do
is talk to your
government
representative
(09:13):
to say how
important these
announcements are
and how important
it is for the
government
to be transparent
in their
commitments
if they committed
during UNOC.
So find out if
your country's
committed.
It'd be
nice to see.
If your country
hasn't ratified
the high
seas treaty,
you can actually
go, I'll put the
link in the
show notes.
You can actually
go to a website,
highseasalliance.org,
and there's a
treaty
ratification
table
(09:33):
that shows if
your country's
ratified.
It's really cool
to see the
progress.
We're 10 away
from
ratification,
which will
be great.
It has to be done
by, I believe,
January, 2026.
So we're still
about six months
away from it
happening
in 10 more
countries.
Canada, the US,
Mexico have not
done it in North
America.
That's a shame.
I hope that
they do it.
I know Canada
said they will.
They'll sign,
(09:54):
they signed onto
it to agree to
the treaty.
They just haven't
ratified it yet.
And they just had
an election.
So hopefully
they'll
ratify it then.
They've had a lot
of political
problems.
Same with the US.
And of course,
all North America
is just watching
the US and see
what it does.
It's been fairly
disruptive
this year.
So we'll see what
happens.
However,
hopefully they
will ratify it.
It might be last
minute, but
hopefully they
will ratify it.
(10:14):
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I am back from
(00:00):
the UN Oceans
Conference in
Nice, France.
Beautiful
country, a lot of
stuff announced,
including a lot
of money that was
made for ocean
conservation,
but not enough to
really protect
the ocean. Quite
a bit shy.
We're also going
to talk about a
lot of
announcements
that were made in
terms of high
seas treaty,
in terms of the
global plastic
(00:21):
pollution
treaties and the
commitments
for that,
as well as marine
protected areas
announcements.
So we're going to
talk all about
that on today's
episode of the
How to Protect
the Ocean
podcast.
Let's
start the show.
Hey everybody,
welcome back to
another exciting
episode of the
How to Protect
the Ocean
podcast.
I'm your host,
Andrew Lewin.
This is the
podcast where you
find out what's
happening with
the ocean,
how you could
speak up for the
(00:41):
ocean, what you
can do to live
for a better
ocean by
taking action.
On today's
episode, we're
going to be
talking about my
trip to Nice,
France, not my
20th anniversary
that I celebrated
in these France
with my wonderful
wife, but we're
going to be
talking
about the UN
Oceans
Conference, which
is one of the
things that I
went to Nice for,
not only spend a
wonderful
time with my
wife, but also go
to the
conference, see
(01:01):
what's happening,
connect with
friends, connect
with colleagues
and meet new
people and new
friends at these
conferences,
which I
love to do.
Now I'm going to
just right off
the bat, I'm
going to say this
was very
different
from the
conferences that
I normally go to.
Now, normally
there's science
conferences that
I go to, and
this had a
science component
that was done the
week before I
went. I went from
the 11th to the
15th. This lasted
basically from
the second to the
(01:22):
13th, but there
was a lot of
stuff that
was said.
There was a lot
of stuff done and
it was a little
bit different in
terms that
normally
when you go
to a conference
that I normally
go to, it's at
one hotel. Either
you stay in that
hotel or you
just walk to it
from a different
Airbnb or a hotel
and you spend
most of the time
in different
rooms and
sessions and
workshops,
speaking with
people,
connecting with
(01:42):
individuals
and friends
and colleagues
and so forth,
maybe potentially
collaborating on
new projects. And
when you talk
with that and you
network, this was
a little bit
different, not
the networking
part. There was a
lot of that, but
the way
everything was
dispersed across
the city, it was
a little bit
hectic. There
was a blue zone,
which all the
delegations were
there, like all
the government
delegations and
the big
announcements
were done, which
I'll talk about
in just a sec.
And then there
was a green
(02:02):
zone, which was
open to the
public. This has
never happened
before. This is
the third
time this
conference is
done. It never
happened before
in Barcelona. So
this was cool
that they
opened it
to the public.
There's drawings
for kids. We
could talk about
startups. We
talked about
fishing. We
talked about
everything. There
was a little
presentations
going around, but
it was really
cool. Show some B
roll from some of
the pictures and
videos that I
took the city of
nice is
absolutely
gorgeous. There's
(02:23):
a lot of water
there to remind
you to connect to
the water. I got
to jump in the
water with my
friend Angela
Villa Gomez and a
number of
different people
that I met there
in the morning
before my
co-hosting
session for the
undertow that I
co-founded
started. And we
had a great time
there, but there
were a lot of
like, there's a
green zone that
you can go to.
There was a lot
of side events.
So it made it
pretty hectic to
run around and it
was hot. And so
(02:43):
if you're wearing
conference
attire, it was
very hot,
very sticky.
But it was a lot
of fun to go to.
But some of these
announcements
that I'm going to
talk about, I'm
going to
interject as I
recount these
announcements
were very
interesting. I
say to you, take
it with a grain
of salt. There's
a lot of stuff
that sounds
really great, but
don't hold your
breath. A lot of
what I've learned
from a lot of
these
announcements by
governments and
different NGOs
and stuff like
that is like, I
(03:04):
will believe it
when I see it.
And that's all
I'm going to say
there, but it is
in a positive
direction, which
is great. So
we're going to
talk about that.
I'm going to run
through it pretty
quickly. There
was some heavy
financial
commitments,
including 3
billion euros
from the European
Investment
Bank. And
the European Asian Development
Bank to tackle
ocean plastic
pollution through
2030, which is
great. Not much
detail in that,
but that was
great
announcement. 2.5
(03:25):
billion US from
the US Bank of
Latin America and
Caribbean CAF for
sustainable
marine
investments from
2025 to 2030.
There's a 119
million euro via
World Bank for
climate
resilience in
Guinea's coasts.
There is 2
million euro for
Mediterranean
ecosystems in
North Africa and
1.8 million euro
to reinforce
marine protected
areas in Costa
(03:45):
Rica and in the
Mediterranean.
Which is great.
And then we saw
private
investments when
capital raised
160 million euro
towards the Swen
Blue Ocean 2 fund
targeted 300
million euro for
biodiversity
focused startups,
which is great to
see. And then of
course, bird life
and philanthropic
public investors
committed to 8.7
billion euro over
(04:06):
5 years for ocean
conservation.
Now, if I say
this, despite
that influx,
which was great
to see, it still
falls short of
the estimated 175
billion dollars
that are needed
annually to
protect the ocean.
So that's the
financial
investments.
Again, I'll
believe that when
I see all those
investments be
spent and all
those projects
come through, not
all them will be
successes, but at
least there's
money going into
(04:26):
those projects.
And for the high
seas, the treaty
advances. So the
high seas treaty
needs to be
ratified. They
need 60 countries
to ratify those.
At the end of
this conference,
there were 50.
They added 12
countries,
bringing a total
to 50. Just 10
short of the 60
needed to bring
the high seas
treaty into
force. India did
pledge to ratify
soon, reinforcing
the movement or
(04:46):
momentum of the treaty.
So they're going to be able to
move forward with
that. Once the 60
are reached,
there will be 120
day countdown to
an enactment with
COP 1 scheduled
within a year
after that. The
new marine
protected areas
and 30 by 30
progress, the
niece declaration
of reaffirmed
support for 30 by
30. The target
marking progress
from 8% over 10%
ocean protection.
(05:08):
France, Costa
Rica, Cabo Verde
and others
announced new
marine protected
areas including
French
Polynesians, 5
million dollars
square kilometer
sanctuary. The
world's largest
MPA when I say
this though, take
it with a grain
of salt. Some of
these MPAs still
allow fishing
activities like
trawling into it.
The movie ocean,
which I reviewed
last week, really
played an
important role in
(05:28):
the discussion of
banning trawling
within marine
protected areas.
That was brought
up a number of
times throughout
UNOC, the United
Nations Ocean
Conference. And
that was the
purpose of the
movie. It
actually mentions
the United
Nations Ocean
Conference at the
end of that movie
and the credits
before the
credits run. And
so that was a big
topic of
discussion within
that. I don't
know what the
announcements
were around that.
But the pressure
was put on,
(05:49):
especially on the
UK for allowing
that to happen.
Deep sea mining
caution. So a
growing coalition
of 37 countries
called for
moratorium on
deep sea mining.
Advocating a
precautionary
halt, pending
better science
and governance.
French and
international
leaders
underscore the
need to pause on
seabed mining. Because
essentially we
don't know a lot
about the seabed.
I think we've
mapped 25% of the
seabed. We still
(06:09):
have a lot more
to do. And we
just don't know
what we're gonna
screw up. And
we're really good
at screwing
things up. So
that's something
that we have to
be careful of.
Combating
plastics and
ghost gear. So
the Declaration
urges against
plastic pollution
and ghost gear
pushing the
fisheries and
agricultural
organization and
other
organizations to
ramp up efforts
to clean those
up. Countries
like Australia
recommitted to a
(06:29):
global plastic
treaty, which was
gone through the
process over the
last year and a
half. We've
covered it on the
podcast here. It
didn't come out
great. I'm not
sure we'll have
to cover where
the plastic
treaty is now,
but they've done
all their
meetings. And I
don't know if it
was actually
agreed upon.
We'll have to
talk about that
soon. Confirm
support for the
high seas
protection
Australia.
And vowed to ban
bottom trawling
in 30% of its
waters by 2030,
(06:50):
which I assume
that will be
marine protected
areas given the
30 by 30 target.
Improving ocean
governance and
finance. So
investors voice
concerns that
unclear
regulations and
weak ocean data
are limiting the
private sector
involvement. Take
that with a grain
of salt, because
usually it's the
private investors
and private
sector that are
causing a lot of
the problems. I'd
love to see more
investment from
the private
sector and
(07:11):
getting them to
help clear up
these
regulations. But
a lot of times
it's usually
private sector
that's working
against the
private sector.
And so that's an
interesting
comment by some
of the people who
were talking
about these are
the big
announcements.
These investors
call for stronger
governance, which
is absolutely
needed subsidy
reform, which is
absolutely needed
a lot of
subsidies in
terms of money
goes towards
(07:31):
fishing subsidies
and more
transparent
frameworks to
mobilize private
capital. Now,
just to go back
to the subsidies.
What I meant by
fishing subsidies
is giving it to
the big
industries, not
the artisanal
fishers. It's the
big industries
that usually get
a lot of the
subsidies and
usually are the
biggest problems.
So now the NICE
ocean action plan
includes a
political
declaration and
(07:52):
over 800 plus
voluntary
commitments from
governments, UN
agencies,
scientists and
NGOs, UN
secretary
general, I think
that's how you
pronounce the
name, stress the
shift from a
plunder to
protection, which
is obvious. We
need that shift.
Urging world
leaders to
protect at least
30% of their
oceans by 2030.
Will that happen?
It doesn't look
(08:12):
like it's likely. I'm hopeful that it will get close. Hopefullythere'll be a big push. But will we worry about that?
It's not going to
be a paper MPa,
it's got to be a
proper MPa. It's
got to work. It's
got to be
enforced. It's
got to be managed
(08:33):
properly. It's
got to be done
well. So bottom
line is the nice
conference achieve major boosts in financing, conservation targets and 3d progress.But funding is not going to help. It's got to be a way to deal with the
achieve major
boosts in
financing,
conservation targets, and
treaty progress,
but funding gaps
still remain,
and the
scientists warned
that the
political
decoration
doesn't fully
address damaging
practices
like harmful
fishing,
underwater noise,
and the climate
(08:53):
role of marine
species.
Still, global
ambition is
stronger,
and with the high
seas treaty
nearing
ratification,
the world may
finally
be heading
toward legally
binding
international
ocean protection,
which would be
nice to see.
I just don't know
if that's
gonna happen.
So we're gonna
have to see if
that happens,
but the biggest
thing that you
could do
is talk to your
government
representative
(09:13):
to say how
important these
announcements are
and how important
it is for the
government
to be transparent
in their
commitments
if they committed
during UNOC.
So find out if
your country's
committed.
It'd be
nice to see.
If your country
hasn't ratified
the high
seas treaty,
you can actually
go, I'll put the
link in the
show notes.
You can actually
go to a website,
highseasalliance.org,
and there's a
treaty
ratification
table
(09:33):
that shows if
your country's
ratified.
It's really cool
to see the
progress.
We're 10 away
from
ratification,
which will
be great.
It has to be done
by, I believe,
January, 2026.
So we're still
about six months
away from it
happening
in 10 more
countries.
Canada, the US,
Mexico have not
done it in North
America.
That's a shame.
I hope that
they do it.
I know Canada
said they will.
They'll sign,
(09:54):
they signed onto
it to agree to
the treaty.
They just haven't
ratified it yet.
And they just had
an election.
So hopefully
they'll
ratify it then.
They've had a lot
of political
problems.
Same with the US.
And of course,
all North America
is just watching
the US and see
what it does.
It's been fairly
disruptive
this year.
So we'll see what
happens.
However,
hopefully they
will ratify it.
It might be last
minute, but
hopefully they
will ratify it.
(10:14):
But that's the
episode
for today.
I want to thank
you so much for
joining me on
today's episode.
I'd love to hear
what you think.
Put your comments
down below.
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