Listening to Lawyers

Listening to Lawyers

Listening to Lawyers, an audio project of the Wisconsin Lawyers Assistance Program (WisLAP) at the State Bar of Wisconsin, features Wisconsin lawyers sharing personal stories of the unexpected challenges that have shaped them. Theirs are stories of struggle, resilience, persistence, and creative and brave navigation through challenging territory while lawyering. Listeners say they are surprised, touched, and inspired by what they learn from Listening to Lawyers.

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September 1, 2026 • 40 mins

Navigating the complex landscape of personal trauma can often feel isolating, particularly for those in the legal profession. In this episode of Listening to Lawyers, hosted by Amber Ault, guest Attorney Dean R. Dietrich shares a deeply personal story that sheds light on unexpected adversity and the journey toward understanding and healing.

Dean recounts a tragic event that occurred five year...

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Waukesha County Circuit Court Judge Jennifer Dorow shares her deeply personal story of loss, trauma, and resilience, offering valuable insights for legal professionals navigating emotional challenges in their careers. This episode explores trauma-informed judicial practices, self-care, and the importance of community support. Listening to Lawyers.

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This conversation features former Wisconsin Governor Martin Schreiber discussing his experiences as a caregiver for his wife Elaine, who suffered from Alzheimer's disease. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the disease, the need for caregivers to take care of themselves, and the role of community support. Gov. Schreiber shares insights from his award-winning memoir, "My Two Elaine...

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In this episode of Listening to Lawyers, a special project of the State Bar's Wisconsin Lawyer Assistance Program (WisLAP), attorney Aviva Kaiser shares her inspiring journey from a childhood in a Pennsylvania coal mining town to building a prominent and unconventional career in the legal field. She discusses her experiences with work-life integration, the importance of establishing guiding principles, and the challenges of balanci...

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In this episode of Listening to Lawyers, brought to you by the State Bar of Wisconsin's Lawyers Assistance Program (WisLAP) and hosted by WisLAP Program Manager Amber Ault, join us for an inspiring conversation with Jennifer Lee Edmondson, a litigator and founder of Health Education and Welfare. Jennifer shares her personal journey through a stage four metastatic breast cancer diagnosi...

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In this episode of Listening to Lawyers, trial attorney April Toy shares her personal journey with alcoholism and recovery. Growing up on a rural California farm, April faced numerous challenges before finding her path to law.

She discusses her early experiences with alcohol, the tipping point that led her to seek help, and her journey through Alcoholics Anonymous. April emphasizes the importance of sharing her story to break the s...

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In this opening episode of Listening to Lawyers, produced by the State Bar's Wisconsin Lawyer Assistance Program (WisLAP), attorney Lindsay Draper shares his journey through the legal profession, emphasizing the importance of lawyer wellness and mental health.

He reflects on his upbringing, the influences that led him to law, and the challenges...

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