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October 23, 2025 70 mins

In this episode of Pushing the Limits, Lisa Tamati sits down with Brandon Bucher, the visionary CEO of Lightning Pay NZ, a company pioneering Bitcoin payment infrastructure and merchant solutions in New Zealand.

Brandon shares his personal Bitcoin journey, what drew him into the ecosystem, and why he's deeply passionate about financial freedom, self-sovereignty, and decentralized money. Together, we unpack the macro forces shaping our economic landscape — from inflation and debt-driven systems to currency debasement and money printing — and why Bitcoin represents a viable alternative.

We also dive into how the Lightning Network (Bitcoin's layer-two scaling solution) is enabling instant, low-cost payments, helping Bitcoin evolve from a "store of value" into a true medium of exchange. Brandon explains why layer-two and layer-three infrastructure are critical for scalability, usability, and global adoption — and how Lightning Pay NZ is making this future a reality for businesses and consumers alike.

If you care about sound money, digital freedom, and building a fairer financial system, this episode will inspire you to rethink what money really means in the 21st century.

Topics We Cover:

  • Brandon's journey into Bitcoin and the Lightning ecosystem

  • Why Bitcoin matters in an age of debt, inflation, and fiat instability

  • The role of layer-two solutions like Lightning Network

  • Why Bitcoin's base layer prioritizes decentralization and security — and can't scale alone

  • How Lightning Pay NZ is helping merchants accept Bitcoin easily

  • How Lightning Pay acts as both a Bitcoin exchange and POS (point-of-sale) system for real-world payments

  • The macro outlook for global finance and how Bitcoin fits into it

  • The philosophy of financial self-sovereignty and trustless systems

 

Connect with Brandon:

Website: Lightning Pay NZ

X (Twitter): @BTCNautilus

Learn More:

Check out Lightning Pay NZ, a payment gateway and exchange making it easy for New Zealand businesses to accept Bitcoin instantly using the Lightning Network, convert it to NZD if desired, and integrate seamlessly into existing POS systems.

Brandon Bucher Bio:

Brandon is a veteran product leader and a long time bitcoin enthusiast and now Co-Founder and CEO at Lightning Pay, a New Zealand based bitcoin-only financial services company. Brandon is passionate about shepherding in the emergence of bitcoin from its current reputation as a speculative investment asset to its rightful place as better money, used for saving, investment, borrowing and spending.

 

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Lisa is a Genetics Practitioner, Health Optimisation Coach, High Performance and Mindset Coach.

She is a qualified Ph360 Epigenetics coach and a clinician with The DNA Company and has done years of research into brain rehabilitation, neurodegenerative diseases and biohacking.

She has extensive knowledge on such therapies as hyperbaric oxygen,  intravenous vitamin C, sports performance, functional genomics, Thyroid, Hormones, Cancer and much more. She can assist with all functional medicine testing.

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