December 5, 2024 • 44 mins
Learn how our dreams can serve as tools for healing, helping us communicate with our higher selves.
In this episode of the Rebel CEO Podcast, Bree sits down with Morgan, founder of Unfiltered Growth Co., to talk about everything from soul connections and manifestation to dreams and timeline shifting. They dive deep into the importance of personal growth and how aligning with your true self can change the course of your life.
Morgan and Breeanna explore the concept of timeline shifting—how evolving into the person you’re meant to be can sometimes leave behind old versions of yourself and shift you into a new life path.
The conversation also touches on tower moments, those major life transitions that push us to rebuild when everything we’ve known starts to fall apart. Morgan shares powerful insights about the dangers of living on autopilot, drawing from the book "Outwitting the Devil", and how drifting through life without purpose can diminish our personal power.
Plus, they unpack the idea of manifesting the life you want—it’s not just about setting intentions, but evolving into the person who’s ready to receive what you desire.
Key Takeaways:
- Dreams aren’t just random—they’re powerful tools for healing and connecting with your higher self.
- Timeline shifting is all about personal growth leading to a new reality, sometimes leaving old versions of ourselves behind.
- Tower moments are major life shifts that encourage us to rebuild on stronger foundations when everything we’ve built starts to crumble.
- The "drifting" concept from Outwitting the Devil refers to living on autopilot, which limits our personal power and purpose.
- Manifestation involves more than just wishing for something—it’s about becoming the person who can embody and receive your desires.
Notable Quotes:
- “Old things that aren't right for you will continue to fall away because they can't come with you to this next timeline.”
- “It’s like a puzzle piece just kind of locks in place.”
- “When you're in that state of consciousness, night is the perfect time for Spirit to come through to you.”
- “You can live everything you’ve ever wanted to by taking control of your thoughts.”
- “External life is a reflection of the internal state.”
Resources:
- Follow Morgan on Social Media:
- Instagram: @UnfilteredGrowthCo
- TikTok: @morgan.unfiltered
- Listen to Morgan’s Podcast: Spiritual Dumpster Diving
- Join Morgan’s Facebook Group for collective readings and insights: Unfiltered Growth Facebook Group
- Recommended Book: Outwitting the Devil by Napoleon Hill
About the Guest:
Morgan is the founder of Unfiltered Growth Co. and a multifaceted entrepreneur with a passion for helping people unlock their fullest potential. As a human design expert, Morgan combines healing, manifestation, and self-empowerment to create a holistic approach to personal growth. She’s also a skilled tarot reader
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Morgan) (00:00):
Old things that aren't right for you will continue to fall away because they can't come with you to this next timeline.
Bree) (00:06):
Hey there and welcome to the Rebel CEO Podcast. Here we're all about embracing your inner CEO, helping you grow into the highest version of yourself and build a business that serves your life. That's right, we're leaving the hustle culture behind. I'm your host, Brianna K. I'm an elopement photographer, videographer and former burnt out entrepreneur who is on a mission to gain more freedom and live life to the fullest.
(00:30):
Think of me as a friend who you're sitting down for a coffee chat to catch up with. So get cozy and get ready to dive in. Dream big and realize you really can have it all.
Hi Morgan.
Morgan) (00:41):
Hi.
Bree) (00:44):
You're my first repeat guest on the podcast. So if you guys have been with since the beginning, then you know that Morgan spoke early on about human design and I pulled her back onto the podcast because she was also the friend that I was voice noting or voice messaging with in the episode where I shared how I manifested a reading from Tyler Henry. And you guys loved that episode. So going into this call I actually sent Morgan an outline and tried to help prep her for the call so that we could bring you guys value.
(01:17):
And then when she hopped on today, I was like, I'm going to throw a curveball at you. I haven't told her what the curveball is yet, but she's one of my very, very best friends so I feel like it's appropriate to put her on the spot a little bit here. And we are going to ditch outline because I Woke up at 6:30 this morning and I had all sorts of ideas of what I wanted to talk about that like wasn't specifically the outline. So I just made like a little note in my phone and we're going to just go over all of these topics because I feel like what we discuss normally could just be podcast episodes in themselves.
(01:52):
So are you cool with that?
Morgan) (01:54):
Yeah, totally. This is going to feel like our private voice notes.
Bree) (01:58):
Yeah, it totally will. Okay, so to get started, do you just want to share with listeners who maybe haven't heard you before, aren't familiar with you, who you actually are as a human?
Morgan) (02:10):
Yeah. So I as a human am someone. I'm a mom, I'm a wife, I'm a friend to. I am lucky enough to have like a lot of really good friends and I am someone who like cannot stand surface level. It just doesn't work for me. I really like to get deep. I like to be real. I have this really dry sense of humor that I didn't realize that I had until recently. And now recently I'm like, oh, okay. People just don't get me until they get me.
(02:49):
And I am into all kinds of, like the woo. I am into all kinds of manifestation, breaking cycles. Like really just self empowerment and self development. Like that. That realm of life is my jam.
Bree) (03:08):
Okay, so do you also want to share? When you started your business, you were going hard into human design, but it has since evolved a little bit. So can you just kind of fill listeners in on the journey since we last spoke?
Morgan) (03:22):
So when I started my business, I had just discovered human design. Well, not really. Just I'd been into human design for about a year. And I still love human design. It still is a major part of my business. It is still a tool that I use every single day when I'm talking to my friends or when I'm going through my life. And I just really think that it's just so insanely powerful. But I started really kind of gravitating towards other things as well as human design.
(03:55):
I feel like human design was like my entry point and now I'm starting to want to get into more of like the healing and manifestation and just kind of like all of the other things that is just the natural course of life. And I'm a manifesting generator. So I should have known better. When I made my business all about human design. I should have known that I was going to. That that was going to limit me, but it really did feel limiting. So just recently, I rebranded as unfiltered growth company.
(04:28):
And we are really just focused on everything that helps you grow, everything that really helps you discover who you are. And I just help you find modes and modalities that work for you, whether that's human design or whether that's something else.
Bree) (04:47):
Yeah, and Morgan's been really great at doing tarot reading so far. She gave me like the best tarot reading of my life. I haven't had, honestly, that many. I think I've only had the one. I had one from, like, a girl I found on TikTok. That was not it. And then Morgan's giving me all of the other ones that I can recall. And I feel like she's just so talented and so fun to watch and listen to when she's doing those.
(05:11):
And then she's also been showing up on her lives in her Facebook group and doing collective tarot readings there, which has been fun to See, So first note that I wrote down is to talk about friends who are instantly your best friends. So Morgan and I met when we were working at Country Kitchen together in high school. Working for my dad. And we always say that we, we were like acquaintances until we decided to be friends and then we were instant best friends.
(05:38):
So you can give me your thoughts on this too. But I feel like those kind of friends are people that your soul came into this earth knowing their soul, and you're meant to be together on this journey. So there's just like an instant familiarity there.
Morgan) (05:54):
I totally agree. I don't even remember. I don't remember when we decided to be friends. The only thing I remember is like barely knowing you and then being thick as thieves and best friends. I don't feel like there was ever a middle ground there. And it's funny because when we became best friends, we really had nothing in common. Like, no. Surface wise.
Bree) (06:19):
Yeah, I was a little emo scene kid and you were not.
Morgan) (06:24):
I was on the dance team. We had. Yeah, we had nothing in common. And I totally agree that when you have, it's, it's. It's like that soulmate connection where it's just instantaneous and it feels like a puzzle piece just kind of locks in place. And people like that, you know that. And by the way, you can have relationships like this that last for a couple weeks, or you can have relationships like this that last for years or a lifetime.
(06:53):
It just depends on what that soul contract was with that person. And so clearly ours hasn't played out yet or like isn't finished yet, which is exciting. But don't negate that. When you have that instant connection with somebody, but then it only lasts for a couple months. Like, just know that that's probably like, that's exactly what they were there for. Like you learned your lesson with them.
Bree) (07:16):
Yeah, absolutely. And it's funny because like you said, we had nothing really in common service level at the time. And I feel like you and I are just extremely different human beings. But over the course of our lives we kind of got put on this like really similar path as of the last however many years. And even though we started off super different in our personalities are super different, the way that we approach things is super different. We also are like finding a lot of similarities lately in kind of our life path that we're currently choosing.
(07:49):
The next thing that I wrote down was dreams. So last night I literally fell asleep. So when I. When we were going to bed, we shut the TV off and it Was kind of early and I was like, I'm not even tired. And then I was out so fast. And I feel like I literally slept for 20 hours last night. And Nick woke up my husband at 5:30 this morning and his alarm woke me up. So then I slept until 6:30, which is when my alarm was set for.
(08:19):
But I woke up actually slightly before my alarm went off. And I was like. I feel like since Nick left, which was an hour ago, I've slept for like another four hours. And I just feel like I got the best sleep of my life. And something that we just mentioned the other day in our voice notes is that I feel like there is so much more to our dreams than we give them credit for or like then we. Than we accept as a society.
(08:47):
Do you want to expand on that?
Morgan) (08:50):
Yeah, totally. So this is something that's been relatively new to me probably within the last year or so. But I've always been somebody who either didn't remember my dreams or had very vivid dreams. There was really no in between. And sometimes my vivid dreams would go months and months between having a vivid dream and my next one. But. Yeah, your dreams. Like, the way I am really realizing my dreams is that either it's my higher self that's coming in to tell me this story or it's my spirit guides or angels.
(09:30):
And I feel like Bri and I, you both, like, we both have been going on this journey where we'll be like, yo, we just had this dream. Like, it's constant back and forth. Like, yeah, this was my dream last night. This is my dream last night. And it's so fun. One thing that I encourage people to do if they have really vivid dreams. And Bri, I don't think I've ever told you this, but you kind of went through a phase that you did this anyways is just create like just starting your dream journal.
(09:59):
Because a lot of times what can happen when you're trying to like learn a lesson or they're trying to give you a message through your dreams is that like, it can. It can come in chunks. Like your stories start with one dream and then continue with each dream. So you'll see like a common theme if you journal out your. Your dreams and you can kind of put the message together. So, yeah, I don't think I've ever told you that. But I do know that you did a heavy stint with dreams at one point.
Bree) (10:29):
Yeah. So I didn't know or ever think about that. It can come in chunks. So that is news to Me. And yes, I did. I had a weird relationship with dreams because if any of you have experienced, it's called sleep paralysis. But I'm going to circle back to when I said, I think there's more to dreams than we sometimes realize or is accepted in our society. And I had a time in college where I kept getting sleep paralysis. I had to sleep with the lights on. I was terrified to sleep alone. It was just, like, a really rough season for me. Because if you guys know anything about sleep paralysis, it can literally feel like some entities, like, trying to crawl inside your body and take over. And it's just the most terrifying thing in the world.
(11:16):
So when that was happening, I decided to start dream journaling because I wanted to learn how to lucid dream so that I could get myself out of these negative, like, terrifying dreams. So I learned how to lucid dream through dream journaling. And then I was able to steer the dream in a positive direction when I would have one of those dreams that started to feel like it was going to go downhill. And I don't struggle with sleep paralysis at all any more. Sense.
(11:46):
So that was, like, over 10 years ago, and I can't. I can recall one dream maybe, but it wasn't as terrifying since then. So, yeah, I definitely feel like dreams are also something that you can literally. And you and I have both done this. Ask your spirit guides for clarity or to show you past lives or whatever. And sometimes you'll get this very bold, at least the way that it comes through for me. Like, this answer in your dream. Like, one night, I asked them my spirit guides about a past life, like, if they could show me a past life. And that night I literally had a dream where somebody was narrating and saying, like, this is your past life. And I was seeing it play out like a movie.
(12:32):
So you can ask for things and sometimes get really clear answers that way, too.
Morgan) (12:37):
Yeah. And your dreams are the perfect place to, like, connect because just of the state of consciousness that you're in, it's the perfect time. Like, every night before I. This is a new practice, too. Every night before I go to bed, I ask for 10,000 angels of the highest love and light to surround me in my sleep and to heal me and to, like, make sure I get the most restful, amazing sleep. And it, honest to God, like, every time that I do that, I wake up feeling incredible.
(13:06):
And a lot of times my dreams will be centered around healing something. And one time, how I learned that you can ask for things in your dreams is because I had a medium tell me that I connected with crossover people in my dreams. But up until then, I maybe dreamed a couple times of somebody that had passed away, but, like, nothing super crazy. So then I was like, okay, if this is true, I want my friend Marty to come to me in my dream.
(13:40):
And in my dream, we were in this crowded place, and I was like, oh, my God, it's Marty. And I'm, like, looking around and I'm telling everybody, and everybody is still going about their business. And Marty just said, you're wasting your time. Only you can see me. And, like, what? We had a conversation, and when I woke up, it just. When you have moments like that, it feels so real that there's, like, no alternative other than that it is just real.
Bree) (14:09):
Yeah, absolutely. I feel like I've had a lot of dreams. Like, I've had dreams of people who've passed over before, just, like, here and there. And then when my sister died, I've had a chunk of dreams with her. And there are dreams with her that I know without a doubt her soul was actually there communicating with me. And then there are dreams with her in them where it almost just feels like a normal dream. Like she's not actually in that. And you can tell the difference from my perspective, at least.
(14:36):
And then you mentioned healing during dreams, which is something that I've been doing a lot lately, just in a different method than you. You said that you do the ask for 10,000 angels of the highest love and light, which is really cute, and I like that. So I'm going to probably copy you tonight. But I've been asking before I go to bed because I realized that my dreams were literally things that I came up with in my waking life. Traumas or things that I wanted to heal or overcome or get out of these cycles and loops that are affecting my current life that no longer serve me.
(15:08):
And, like, I realized in dreams, I was literally addressing these issues. So I just started asking before bed to have my. My guides and angels help clear out these things that are holding me back. And, like, let's do some work while I'm sleeping. Like, let's. Let's go to work. Like, let's take my higher self and let's go back and resolve these traumas and fix things for my current and my future self.
Morgan) (15:35):
Yeah, I love that. And I started doing that. I've done that a couple times as well since you told me that on our voice notes. I was like, oh, that's school. So I started doing that. And I have One time specifically that I don't remember the dream, but I remember waking up and being like, oh, wow. Like, we cleared that out. And that was really cool. But some of this stuff, I just want kind of to clue everybody in that is listening. Bri and I have been like, really doing this work for years now.
(16:09):
And so, like, if you're to the point where, like, you don't even really know what we're talking about, like, that's okay. That's kind of like how everybody learns. Like, we all just have to start somewhere and sometimes just like, bringing that awareness and being like, oh, like, what are they talking about? About these loops or these things that don't serve you. The way you can kind of start to work with that is just like working. Like, looking in your external life and asking, what isn't working?
(16:40):
So say you're at a toxic job. This isn't working for me anymore. I hate it. You're in a toxic relationship or like, you're just having a stale life and you're like, this isn't working for me. And then just kind of looking at, like, all of the reasons why you're still where you're at. Those are what kind of breed means by stuff that's not serving you anymore or those thought loops, those limiting beliefs, that kind of stuff.
Bree) (17:05):
Yeah, absolutely. So then the next thing that I have on here is energy clearing and timeline shifting. Because both you and I have had moments lately, and yours came first, but I was not thinking of yours at all when I sent you my voice note. And I sent a voice note saying, like, pretty much the same exact thing that you told me maybe like a month before. So both of us said, oh, my gosh, I've been doing this work, and I feel so light and airy. And I feel like the version of me that exists right now is literally not the same version of me that was around days or weeks or months ago. Like, you know when you look back in your past and you're like, oh, that was so long ago. I feel like I'm not even the same person as the person who did that thing or acted that way in college or whatever it may be, that's how we literally felt about us literally weeks ago.
(17:58):
What? The point where we were voice noting.
Morgan) (18:01):
Or even like, yesterday.
Bree) (18:03):
Yeah. So I fully believe, and I think that you're on the same page with me. So people think timeline shifting is. Or like quantum leaping is this impossible thing, but I think that when you feel that way, it could be a sign that you literally have elevated your vibration and are in a new timeline. Do you want to give me your thoughts on that?
Morgan) (18:29):
Yeah. Yeah. It is like, exactly how you said of, like, oh, my God, that version of me, that was 15 years ago. That person does not even exist. And I feel like when they always talk about timeline shifting and Brie, like, has a much better, maybe, like, map in her head about, like, how that works. I feel like, Bri, you have a better understanding of time and how time isn't linear and how it can, like, all be happening at once. And, like, this. That. That concept for me is like. It hurts my brain to even think about.
(19:02):
So I try to just, like, not really think about it. But I feel like one thing that makes it so apparent is when you go through this healing journey and you start to spot the limiting beliefs and, like, the thought cycles, and you really start to dig in and be like, okay, why am I dealing with this thought cycle? And you really, like, boil it down and you get down to the nitty gritty, the childhood wound, the internal, the core intern belief that you believe about yourself and you deal with that.
(19:34):
It's like, when you do that enough. And I feel like between Bri and I, this is literally happening daily for us, that we uncover something and that we, like, deal with it and we move on. But when you're new in your journey, it can take you a really long time to even deal with one thing. And it creates what I call a tower moment of just. It just shakes the whole foundation of what you built your life to be.
(20:00):
And this is what they call an awakening, is when you learn your very first thing, and it just completely shakes the foundation. But anyways, back to the timeline thing. When you start cycling through that stuff, it just happens that you start getting in your most aligned. Like, when you talk about living life in alignment, you get in your most aligned timeline and you just keep traveling up and up and up.
(20:24):
And old things that aren't right for you will continue to fall away because they can't come with you to this next timeline. And that's exactly what it feels like. There's no other way to describe it other than just, I don't feel like who I was yesterday. And that is a bizarre feeling. And it is kind of the first couple times it happens when you just, like, wake up and realize that your life isn't working for you. Febre, like, OOP 2222. For Brie, Febri was like, not. Maybe not quite as painful, but for me, waking up to this life that I built it just, like, really shook me to the core, and it was, like, quite intense. But, yeah, then you just, like, keep moving up timelines, and it just keeps getting better.
(21:16):
It just keeps getting cooler. You have so much less that you're hanging on to that's holding you back. You just. It's just so good.
Bree) (21:25):
Yeah. And the thing is, you don't realize this stuff, like, even if you hear it and you think, you know, whatever. Like, there are things. And Morgan and I will continue to learn and have our eyes open to things, too. But there are things that you think that you know, but you just have your blinders up and, like, literally are blind to until you have your eyes opened to them, and then all of a sudden, you can't unsee them.
(21:48):
So we are by no means at the end of our journey, so there will be things for us that come up, too. But the more you practice it, the easier it is to spot these new new things or learn how to deal with them in healthy ways or how to release the trauma or whatever it may be. So you talked about tower moments, which I was going to touch on also, but I want to ask first. Tower moments, they can be positive or negative, right? And you're correct that for me, any tower moment that I can think of, it was. Wasn't as painful. Like, there were parts of it that were uncomfortable or I had to take a leap of faith or whatever, but they weren't as painful, with the exception of which I'm sure you know that I'm going to say losing my sister. But for me, I don't think of that as, like, I know it was a huge tower moment, but I think of that pain not coming from the tower moment as much as from losing somebody.
(22:48):
But the other ones leading up to that, like when I moved across the country, and then when I moved back across the country and started my business, those weren't painful. They were, like, exciting and, yes, scary. But they weren't, oh, my God, how is this happening? And how am I going to get through it type of things. So back to my question. Can tower moments be positive or negative, or are they always negative?
Morgan) (23:12):
No, tower moments can be positive. Okay, here's the thing. Tower moments are whatever you want them to be. Like, I know that that's, like, a really gross way to say it, but first, I want to describe what a tower moment is. So a tower moment is when you've built this amazing life. You've built this tower, you've built this internal landscape in your mind, whatever it may be. And something comes along and, like, shakes it, lightning comes down, crashes it. And what happens and what you realize is that everything that you've been building has been built on a cracked foundation.
(23:50):
And what spirit is telling you is that that cracked foundation can't support the life that you've built anymore. You need to pour a new foundation. That tower needs to crumble in order for you to fix the foundation and rebuild something better, Rebuild something that's actually in alignment with you. So a lot of times tower moments are painful or, like, are what you would say. Maybe not feeling super positive, but the difference between the way you free approached your tower moment and the way I approached my tower moments and why my tower moments were so much more painful than yours were is because I was so fearful.
(24:38):
I was, like, hanging on and fighting for the old still. It was, like, clinging on. It's like when you. When you have this rope, when you're dangling from this rope, and you see it's fraying, and you're like, I know this rope is going to break, but you cling on anyways, and you just, like, hang on anyways. You saw the fraying rope, and you were like, it. I'm out of here. And I hung onto the fraying rope until spirit cut the rope, and, like, I had to fall. There was no other option for me.
(25:10):
I hung on to the old. And you were like, you know what? This is my opportunity. So that's why I feel like your tower moments felt for you a lot more positive. And as you really learn how to kind of spot those cycles and spot those tower moments, bre, you listened a lot more to your intuition. So you had this, let's say, like, when you were in Portland and you were working your very first big girl job, you were so happy until one day you weren't.
(25:41):
And you decided in that moment that you weren't happy and that you weren't going to continue living in that. For me, I just kept going. It's not like I realized I wasn't happy. It's like. Like, spirit had to come in and throw me a curveball for me to wake up and realize that, like, I was just going through the motions and I wasn't actually happy. So I think that that's, like, the major difference of how you can approach these tower moments, how you can approach this stuff.
(26:14):
Instead of being like, oh, my God, I'm so scary, what does this mean? Like, you can spiral in your brain. Instead of that spiral, you can stop yourself, and you can go, like, Wait a second. How may this be an opportunity to actually get into alignment? What next new amazing thing can come out of this crumbling? Because always, always, always after a tower moment, you have the opportunity to rebuild. And it's just whether you want to rebuild in alignment or whether you want to sit and cry over your rubble.
(26:51):
Either way, you have rubble.
Bree) (26:53):
Yeah. And then for those of you who are in my mini course, the manifest code, this might be sounding familiar because I talk about this, but I call it the manifestation collapse, which means that when you're manifesting something, especially something big, and it's, like, so different than your current life that you might see things start to fall away and you might see chaos, and that is exactly what Morgan just talked about. That's the clutter and the baggage getting cleared away to make room for what you actually are bringing into your life.
(27:23):
So tower moments, if I'm understanding them correctly, they can help you grow exponentially in huge ways, or you can choose to not take those signs that the tower moment is giving you, and they can keep you down. And if you choose to take that route, then you're going to keep getting these pushes and nudges and maybe some. Maybe some, like, big event that you don't want to happen because you're not listening to these little signs that you're being given by your angels or spirit guides or whatever it is that you believe in. Would you say that that all kind of tracks with the way you think of them?
Morgan) (28:01):
Yeah, totally. Totally agree. And yeah, and they can happen. Like, these tower moments. Absolutely. Like, can happen when you're manifesting, but they can also happen. Like, say you're not somebody who, like, actively manifests right now, but your life is like this show, and you are like, I am a hot dumpster fire, and I don't understand what's happening. Everything in my life is falling apart. Like, that's just really your opportunity to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like, what is the theme of everything that's falling apart here?
Bree) (28:36):
Yeah. So you say if you're not somebody who's actively manifesting right now. But I do want to point out that we're always manifesting whether we realize we are or not. So if, like, back in the day, if I got my boyfriend's car towed and then I got a parking ticket, and then I was like, and now I have strep throat, and it's like, why does life keep happening to me? It's like, I manifested all of that from being just in these negative cycles or Whatever it may be, I'm not going to dive into all of that. But even though I wasn't back in the day, back before the last like 5ish years, I wasn't actively manifesting. I was still manifesting my reality. And you can choose to manifest whether you believe in it or not. You can choose these positive thoughts which will manifest a more positive reality for you, or you can choose to stay in these negative thoughts that, like we talked about before, aren't serving you. And you're going to manifest a reality that matches that whether you're trying to or not.
Morgan) (29:37):
Yeah, totally. It's like, yeah, and you're right, people just don't think of them going through their normal life as manifesting. But it's really when you hear all of this stuff of your external is just a reflection of your internal. That's what they mean by manifesting. So everything that you, like, if you are. If you're in stuck in this cycle where you're consistently dating shitty people or entering into. Maybe it's not even dating, but like entering into toxic relationship after toxic relationship, it's an opportunity for you to be like, wait, like, I'm manifesting this?
(30:16):
And like, what must I believe about myself to be making this true? Like, what must I believe about my life or about what my worthiness or whatever to. To make whatever this is happening true love that. You brought that up.
Bree) (30:30):
Yeah, absolutely. So then you also mentioned earlier something about going through the motions. Oh, when you were at your job, you just kept going through the motions. And I just got turned on to this book. It's called An Inner Outwitting the Devil. That's what it is, Outwitting the devil. And I sent it to Morgan right away. So we listened to it at the same time. And it is life changing. So when you say going through the motions, I don't know why I can't think of this word right now, but what is it that they call Drifting?
(31:00):
Drifting. Yes. Okay. So in this book they touch on. Actually, do you just want to explain this?
Morgan) (31:06):
Yeah. So in this book, he is somebody who has been somebody who, like, made massive success and then realized he wasn't happy and then he made 33.
Bree) (31:18):
33, yeah, I saw that too. I literally looked up at the same time and saw that.
Morgan) (31:24):
Bri and I have this internal joke about angel numbers. And we're like, listen, if angel numbers are legit, we see them constantly. And that sounds really amazing, but wouldn't it be funny if angel numbers weren't legit? And Our angel or our spirit guides were just like, haha, those losers. Anyways, so in this book he has made massive success. He realized he wasn't happy, he went out somewhere else, made massive success, found out he wasn't happy.
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And then he like really just kind of spiraled into this really broke, really scared, really depressed and negative person. And he went through this interview with the devil and what he was saying. And in Tarot, the devil is like, okay, in spirit, in Christianity, the devil is taught to be really scary. And he, and he talks about how he uses that like influence that we're taught to, to gain like power over us in our minds.
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And so that's one of the tactics that he uses is fear. And then which like I was experiencing big time in my life and it's still something that I like have to fight every single day. I'm just a very fearful person of like failure and like, just stupid. That doesn't matter. And so he talks about how he gains a lot of his power in and influence on people's minds by the tactic of causing us to drift. And I think that my understanding of drifting in the book was exactly what I explained about how you're just going through the motions.
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It's that feeling before you wake up. So if anybody has had a spiritual awakening, that's listening. It's that feeling that you felt right before you woke up, right before you were like, like something has to change. When you're just like going through the motions. Life feels like, like you're just, you're doing the deal just to do the deal. And you don't think about anything and you don't question anything and you don't ask yourself why you're being triggered or what's happening or why you're repeating these cycles in your life. You're just going through the motions.
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And he describes that that's like his number one tactic for keeping you under his control, basically. And in Tarot, the devil is all about like your, it's basically your shadow, like your thought processes, your limiting beliefs. And it really encourages you to like, when you get the devil in a reading, it's really encouraging you to like, look at why you're feeling, what you're thinking about and how that's affecting you negatively.
Bree) (34:15):
I knew that you would be much better at explaining that book than I was, which is I was like, you take this one. Not because I didn't like, love and understand the book, we literally both just listened to it. But you're just so much better at explaining things than I am. So thank you for taking that one. So when we're talking about drifting and going through the motions, you said that about your job and how I feel about that. Because when I sent you the book, I was like, wait till you get to the part where he interviews the devil.
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That is how I feel about myself. Before I decided to quit my job and start my business, and after. And I fully was just going through the motions until my. I guess you could call this a tower moment, like a mini tower moment or mini manifestation collapse maybe. But it was winter, and we know it gets really dark early in the winter. And I was working in an office, and then on the weekends I was bartending. So I would go into work, it would still be dark or just have gotten light, and then I'd be done with work and it would be dark out.
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And then I'd go to the gym, go home, sleep, wake up, do the same thing again. And eventually I was like, I'm not even living life. Especially because I have two weeks of PTO a year. I love traveling, and for me, a big driving force in my life for a long time, which might be why I was so quick to jump on. And I wouldn't say that I have been quick to jump on opportunities all the time, but as life has progressed, I've been more quick to be like, I'm going to move across the country, I'm going to quit my job and start my business because I have this need for freedom, and it's this, like, deep need. Maybe I'm a Sagittarius moon, which is totally relevant and in alignment with that. So maybe that's where it comes from.
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But I feel like before my eyes were opened to the fact that, wait, this isn't what I want life to look like for the next 30. I don't. I don't even know. I was 25ish. So however long you work, more than 30 years after that, I was like, this is not what's going to make me happy. This isn't what I thought that it would be. And something has to change. So up until that point, I feel like in all areas of my life, I was just kind of drifting and going through the motions until I decided to break out of that cycle totally.
Morgan) (36:30):
I. I feel like everybody who has woke up has a very similar story where you're just literally drifting, going through the motions, like, not using your own brain. And in this book, the devil says, like, that is. That is the difference between light and dark, and that is how the light wins. And. And I think that's why our spirit guides. I have tingles as I'm saying this, but I think that that's why our spirit guides send us those tower moments, those, like, all those cycles. I think that's why they're taught to wake us up. Like, eventually, after you. You date shitty guy after shitty guy, you eventually have to wake up.
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And the unfortunate truth is that a lot of us don't, but the ones that do, it's like you finally take control of your brain. And that's what the devil says. Like, that's where the devil lives, is in your brain, in your thoughts. And if you can start to take control of your brain, not only will you be able to manifest your dream life. Like, you literally, like, even the devil says this in the interview.
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You can literally live everything you've ever wanted to live, the moment you take control of your thoughts. But he's really tricky. He's really conniving. He works with, like, fears and, like, implanting things into your brain that you think are yours. And so that's just really your opportunity to stop drifting, to look at yourself, to go within and ask yourself, like, why you're having these thoughts, why you're having these cycles.
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That's why it's so important that you collapse that stuff, right?
Bree) (38:10):
And a huge point that they make right away in the book, which ties into what you said about the devil working with fear, is that literally, if you would just stop worrying and, like, stop fearing about not having these things or, like, just trusting that they're yours and that they're coming to you, everything would work itself out and it would be fine. But we can't take away that Even if it's just 1%, we have trouble removing that 1% fear of, like, what if it doesn't work out? What if I don't get to where I'm supposed to?
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And that is holding us back. So the last thing that I have on my notes that I want to touch on, I'm skipping over a whole bunch of them because we've been going for a while. But I feel like this one was also just a. How did we not, like, see and realize this thing? So I feel like we should touch on it. So it is when we realized that when we're trying to manifest something, it is not just trying to define what you want to manifest and, like, bring that thing into your life. It's also making sure that you are a match for what your manifestation wants.
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So I think that when both of Us like heard that and understood that we were like, no duh, that's so, so relevant. So like when you're trying to manifest, I feel like relationships are really easy to understand this one. And if you're trying to manifest your dream guy, then you also need to become the version of you that your dream guy wants in return. It's not just a one way street there. And that goes with anything else too, like money, abundance, freedom, whatever it is that you're trying to manifest.
Morgan) (39:51):
And I'll give an example. Like when you're like, well what do you mean what would money need from me? Because I feel like a lot of us are just everybody's trying to manifest money. Right. And so an epiphany that I had about like what my relationship with money would need from me is I kind of always had this weird, it's stupid but like that. Well, I'm not going to say it's stupid because I feel like probably a lot of people have this. But I had this thing where I was almost a little bit embarrassed about having nice things or having the things that money supplies me.
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And I would always, if somebody would give me a compliment, I would always be like, oh, you know, put it down or whatever it was. And it was just a little bit out of embarrassment. And then I realized I was like, well, if I'm manifesting money, if money was a person that I was manifesting, they wouldn't come to me if I was embarrassed of them. Like, you wouldn't be in a relationship with somebody who's embarrassed of you or who thinks that you're bad or who, you know, whatever, like whatever your view structure is around money really just kind of like, yeah. Being the person that money needs you to be so that it can come into your life.
Bree) (41:10):
Yeah. And then also while we're talking about manifesting money, something that might be helpful is trying to figure out what is it that, like what is the feeling that you want when you're trying to manifest money? Because chances are you're probably not actually trying to manifest the money. What you actually want out of the manifestation is that feeling that you would have when you have that money.
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So focusing on that feeling over I'm trying to bring in a million dollars could be super helpful. And it could help you skip past some of those blocks along the way too because you can really zone in on the feeling. So you might be looking for freedom, security, the ability to have a safe vehicle or the ability to provide for your kids or dress in cute outfits or whatever. It is. That's important to you, and maybe that gives you confidence or, I don't know, safety. So whatever is that. That feeling or whatever the feeling is that you'll get when you have that money is really something that you should be focusing on, too.
Morgan) (42:12):
Yeah. And then to add that, it's like you also have to do your underlying belief structure around, like, what it is you're manifesting, because you could be manifesting a million dollars for the freedom that it gives you. But if you don't look at your belief structure around money, then when you receive that million dollars from the universe, it could be like all of a sudden, like, it just, like, you just lose it. Just.
(42:38):
Or you just like. Or you. You freak out because you're like, oh, my gosh, now I have to hold on to this because, like, I will never receive this money again or whatever it may be. So it's kind of like, just do yourself a favor and look at it as a whole piece of pie. And like, yes, like you said, when you're manifesting, like, get to the core reason why you're manifesting that thing, but then also look at, like, your belief structure. So if you're manifesting your dream partner, you need to look at your belief structure around your dream partner, your worthiness, that kind of thing, because, like, there's a reason that you don't already have it.
Bree) (43:15):
Yeah, absolutely. I think. On that note, I'm just going to ask you where listeners can find you if they want to, to show up on your lives, cheer you on, listen to more of your wisdom, or just creep on you.
Morgan) (43:27):
Yay. You can find me at Unfiltered Growth Co on Instagram or on Facebook or morgan.unfiltered on tick Tock. And then I will include a link for Bri to put in the bio. If you want to join my free community. I drop all kinds of stuff. That's where we do our collective readings and just like kind of some extra really cool fun stuff.
Bree) (43:51):
And then since our original interview, you also have started your own podcast. So do you want to share the name of that?
Morgan) (43:58):
Oh, yes. Yeah, you can find me at Spiritual Dumpster Diving, either on Spotify or Apple. And yeah, we talk about all kinds of spiritual goodness there.
Bree) (44:12):
All right, well, thank you so much for being on the call. I, as always, love talking to you. And then I hope that listeners that you gained a little bit of insight and maybe something that will be helpful on your path as a soul just trying to navigate this earth.
Until next week, stay rebellious don't be scared to go against the grain. Make big changes in the world and keep rocking your journey as a rebel CEO. I will catch you in the next episode.
Old things that aren't right for you will continue to fall away because they can't come with you to this next timeline.
Bree) (00:06):
Hey there and welcome to the Rebel CEO Podcast. Here we're all about embracing your inner CEO, helping you grow into the highest version of yourself and build a business that serves your life. That's right, we're leaving the hustle culture behind. I'm your host, Brianna K. I'm an elopement photographer, videographer and former burnt out entrepreneur who is on a mission to gain more freedom and live life to the fullest.
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Think of me as a friend who you're sitting down for a coffee chat to catch up with. So get cozy and get ready to dive in. Dream big and realize you really can have it all.
Hi Morgan.
Morgan) (00:41):
Hi.
Bree) (00:44):
You're my first repeat guest on the podcast. So if you guys have been with since the beginning, then you know that Morgan spoke early on about human design and I pulled her back onto the podcast because she was also the friend that I was voice noting or voice messaging with in the episode where I shared how I manifested a reading from Tyler Henry. And you guys loved that episode. So going into this call I actually sent Morgan an outline and tried to help prep her for the call so that we could bring you guys value.
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And then when she hopped on today, I was like, I'm going to throw a curveball at you. I haven't told her what the curveball is yet, but she's one of my very, very best friends so I feel like it's appropriate to put her on the spot a little bit here. And we are going to ditch outline because I Woke up at 6:30 this morning and I had all sorts of ideas of what I wanted to talk about that like wasn't specifically the outline. So I just made like a little note in my phone and we're going to just go over all of these topics because I feel like what we discuss normally could just be podcast episodes in themselves.
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So are you cool with that?
Morgan) (01:54):
Yeah, totally. This is going to feel like our private voice notes.
Bree) (01:58):
Yeah, it totally will. Okay, so to get started, do you just want to share with listeners who maybe haven't heard you before, aren't familiar with you, who you actually are as a human?
Morgan) (02:10):
Yeah. So I as a human am someone. I'm a mom, I'm a wife, I'm a friend to. I am lucky enough to have like a lot of really good friends and I am someone who like cannot stand surface level. It just doesn't work for me. I really like to get deep. I like to be real. I have this really dry sense of humor that I didn't realize that I had until recently. And now recently I'm like, oh, okay. People just don't get me until they get me.
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And I am into all kinds of, like the woo. I am into all kinds of manifestation, breaking cycles. Like really just self empowerment and self development. Like that. That realm of life is my jam.
Bree) (03:08):
Okay, so do you also want to share? When you started your business, you were going hard into human design, but it has since evolved a little bit. So can you just kind of fill listeners in on the journey since we last spoke?
Morgan) (03:22):
So when I started my business, I had just discovered human design. Well, not really. Just I'd been into human design for about a year. And I still love human design. It still is a major part of my business. It is still a tool that I use every single day when I'm talking to my friends or when I'm going through my life. And I just really think that it's just so insanely powerful. But I started really kind of gravitating towards other things as well as human design.
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I feel like human design was like my entry point and now I'm starting to want to get into more of like the healing and manifestation and just kind of like all of the other things that is just the natural course of life. And I'm a manifesting generator. So I should have known better. When I made my business all about human design. I should have known that I was going to. That that was going to limit me, but it really did feel limiting. So just recently, I rebranded as unfiltered growth company.
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And we are really just focused on everything that helps you grow, everything that really helps you discover who you are. And I just help you find modes and modalities that work for you, whether that's human design or whether that's something else.
Bree) (04:47):
Yeah, and Morgan's been really great at doing tarot reading so far. She gave me like the best tarot reading of my life. I haven't had, honestly, that many. I think I've only had the one. I had one from, like, a girl I found on TikTok. That was not it. And then Morgan's giving me all of the other ones that I can recall. And I feel like she's just so talented and so fun to watch and listen to when she's doing those.
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And then she's also been showing up on her lives in her Facebook group and doing collective tarot readings there, which has been fun to See, So first note that I wrote down is to talk about friends who are instantly your best friends. So Morgan and I met when we were working at Country Kitchen together in high school. Working for my dad. And we always say that we, we were like acquaintances until we decided to be friends and then we were instant best friends.
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So you can give me your thoughts on this too. But I feel like those kind of friends are people that your soul came into this earth knowing their soul, and you're meant to be together on this journey. So there's just like an instant familiarity there.
Morgan) (05:54):
I totally agree. I don't even remember. I don't remember when we decided to be friends. The only thing I remember is like barely knowing you and then being thick as thieves and best friends. I don't feel like there was ever a middle ground there. And it's funny because when we became best friends, we really had nothing in common. Like, no. Surface wise.
Bree) (06:19):
Yeah, I was a little emo scene kid and you were not.
Morgan) (06:24):
I was on the dance team. We had. Yeah, we had nothing in common. And I totally agree that when you have, it's, it's. It's like that soulmate connection where it's just instantaneous and it feels like a puzzle piece just kind of locks in place. And people like that, you know that. And by the way, you can have relationships like this that last for a couple weeks, or you can have relationships like this that last for years or a lifetime.
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It just depends on what that soul contract was with that person. And so clearly ours hasn't played out yet or like isn't finished yet, which is exciting. But don't negate that. When you have that instant connection with somebody, but then it only lasts for a couple months. Like, just know that that's probably like, that's exactly what they were there for. Like you learned your lesson with them.
Bree) (07:16):
Yeah, absolutely. And it's funny because like you said, we had nothing really in common service level at the time. And I feel like you and I are just extremely different human beings. But over the course of our lives we kind of got put on this like really similar path as of the last however many years. And even though we started off super different in our personalities are super different, the way that we approach things is super different. We also are like finding a lot of similarities lately in kind of our life path that we're currently choosing.
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The next thing that I wrote down was dreams. So last night I literally fell asleep. So when I. When we were going to bed, we shut the TV off and it Was kind of early and I was like, I'm not even tired. And then I was out so fast. And I feel like I literally slept for 20 hours last night. And Nick woke up my husband at 5:30 this morning and his alarm woke me up. So then I slept until 6:30, which is when my alarm was set for.
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But I woke up actually slightly before my alarm went off. And I was like. I feel like since Nick left, which was an hour ago, I've slept for like another four hours. And I just feel like I got the best sleep of my life. And something that we just mentioned the other day in our voice notes is that I feel like there is so much more to our dreams than we give them credit for or like then we. Than we accept as a society.
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Do you want to expand on that?
Morgan) (08:50):
Yeah, totally. So this is something that's been relatively new to me probably within the last year or so. But I've always been somebody who either didn't remember my dreams or had very vivid dreams. There was really no in between. And sometimes my vivid dreams would go months and months between having a vivid dream and my next one. But. Yeah, your dreams. Like, the way I am really realizing my dreams is that either it's my higher self that's coming in to tell me this story or it's my spirit guides or angels.
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And I feel like Bri and I, you both, like, we both have been going on this journey where we'll be like, yo, we just had this dream. Like, it's constant back and forth. Like, yeah, this was my dream last night. This is my dream last night. And it's so fun. One thing that I encourage people to do if they have really vivid dreams. And Bri, I don't think I've ever told you this, but you kind of went through a phase that you did this anyways is just create like just starting your dream journal.
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Because a lot of times what can happen when you're trying to like learn a lesson or they're trying to give you a message through your dreams is that like, it can. It can come in chunks. Like your stories start with one dream and then continue with each dream. So you'll see like a common theme if you journal out your. Your dreams and you can kind of put the message together. So, yeah, I don't think I've ever told you that. But I do know that you did a heavy stint with dreams at one point.
Bree) (10:29):
Yeah. So I didn't know or ever think about that. It can come in chunks. So that is news to Me. And yes, I did. I had a weird relationship with dreams because if any of you have experienced, it's called sleep paralysis. But I'm going to circle back to when I said, I think there's more to dreams than we sometimes realize or is accepted in our society. And I had a time in college where I kept getting sleep paralysis. I had to sleep with the lights on. I was terrified to sleep alone. It was just, like, a really rough season for me. Because if you guys know anything about sleep paralysis, it can literally feel like some entities, like, trying to crawl inside your body and take over. And it's just the most terrifying thing in the world.
(11:16):
So when that was happening, I decided to start dream journaling because I wanted to learn how to lucid dream so that I could get myself out of these negative, like, terrifying dreams. So I learned how to lucid dream through dream journaling. And then I was able to steer the dream in a positive direction when I would have one of those dreams that started to feel like it was going to go downhill. And I don't struggle with sleep paralysis at all any more. Sense.
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So that was, like, over 10 years ago, and I can't. I can recall one dream maybe, but it wasn't as terrifying since then. So, yeah, I definitely feel like dreams are also something that you can literally. And you and I have both done this. Ask your spirit guides for clarity or to show you past lives or whatever. And sometimes you'll get this very bold, at least the way that it comes through for me. Like, this answer in your dream. Like, one night, I asked them my spirit guides about a past life, like, if they could show me a past life. And that night I literally had a dream where somebody was narrating and saying, like, this is your past life. And I was seeing it play out like a movie.
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So you can ask for things and sometimes get really clear answers that way, too.
Morgan) (12:37):
Yeah. And your dreams are the perfect place to, like, connect because just of the state of consciousness that you're in, it's the perfect time. Like, every night before I. This is a new practice, too. Every night before I go to bed, I ask for 10,000 angels of the highest love and light to surround me in my sleep and to heal me and to, like, make sure I get the most restful, amazing sleep. And it, honest to God, like, every time that I do that, I wake up feeling incredible.
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And a lot of times my dreams will be centered around healing something. And one time, how I learned that you can ask for things in your dreams is because I had a medium tell me that I connected with crossover people in my dreams. But up until then, I maybe dreamed a couple times of somebody that had passed away, but, like, nothing super crazy. So then I was like, okay, if this is true, I want my friend Marty to come to me in my dream.
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And in my dream, we were in this crowded place, and I was like, oh, my God, it's Marty. And I'm, like, looking around and I'm telling everybody, and everybody is still going about their business. And Marty just said, you're wasting your time. Only you can see me. And, like, what? We had a conversation, and when I woke up, it just. When you have moments like that, it feels so real that there's, like, no alternative other than that it is just real.
Bree) (14:09):
Yeah, absolutely. I feel like I've had a lot of dreams. Like, I've had dreams of people who've passed over before, just, like, here and there. And then when my sister died, I've had a chunk of dreams with her. And there are dreams with her that I know without a doubt her soul was actually there communicating with me. And then there are dreams with her in them where it almost just feels like a normal dream. Like she's not actually in that. And you can tell the difference from my perspective, at least.
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And then you mentioned healing during dreams, which is something that I've been doing a lot lately, just in a different method than you. You said that you do the ask for 10,000 angels of the highest love and light, which is really cute, and I like that. So I'm going to probably copy you tonight. But I've been asking before I go to bed because I realized that my dreams were literally things that I came up with in my waking life. Traumas or things that I wanted to heal or overcome or get out of these cycles and loops that are affecting my current life that no longer serve me.
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And, like, I realized in dreams, I was literally addressing these issues. So I just started asking before bed to have my. My guides and angels help clear out these things that are holding me back. And, like, let's do some work while I'm sleeping. Like, let's. Let's go to work. Like, let's take my higher self and let's go back and resolve these traumas and fix things for my current and my future self.
Morgan) (15:35):
Yeah, I love that. And I started doing that. I've done that a couple times as well since you told me that on our voice notes. I was like, oh, that's school. So I started doing that. And I have One time specifically that I don't remember the dream, but I remember waking up and being like, oh, wow. Like, we cleared that out. And that was really cool. But some of this stuff, I just want kind of to clue everybody in that is listening. Bri and I have been like, really doing this work for years now.
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And so, like, if you're to the point where, like, you don't even really know what we're talking about, like, that's okay. That's kind of like how everybody learns. Like, we all just have to start somewhere and sometimes just like, bringing that awareness and being like, oh, like, what are they talking about? About these loops or these things that don't serve you. The way you can kind of start to work with that is just like working. Like, looking in your external life and asking, what isn't working?
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So say you're at a toxic job. This isn't working for me anymore. I hate it. You're in a toxic relationship or like, you're just having a stale life and you're like, this isn't working for me. And then just kind of looking at, like, all of the reasons why you're still where you're at. Those are what kind of breed means by stuff that's not serving you anymore or those thought loops, those limiting beliefs, that kind of stuff.
Bree) (17:05):
Yeah, absolutely. So then the next thing that I have on here is energy clearing and timeline shifting. Because both you and I have had moments lately, and yours came first, but I was not thinking of yours at all when I sent you my voice note. And I sent a voice note saying, like, pretty much the same exact thing that you told me maybe like a month before. So both of us said, oh, my gosh, I've been doing this work, and I feel so light and airy. And I feel like the version of me that exists right now is literally not the same version of me that was around days or weeks or months ago. Like, you know when you look back in your past and you're like, oh, that was so long ago. I feel like I'm not even the same person as the person who did that thing or acted that way in college or whatever it may be, that's how we literally felt about us literally weeks ago.
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What? The point where we were voice noting.
Morgan) (18:01):
Or even like, yesterday.
Bree) (18:03):
Yeah. So I fully believe, and I think that you're on the same page with me. So people think timeline shifting is. Or like quantum leaping is this impossible thing, but I think that when you feel that way, it could be a sign that you literally have elevated your vibration and are in a new timeline. Do you want to give me your thoughts on that?
Morgan) (18:29):
Yeah. Yeah. It is like, exactly how you said of, like, oh, my God, that version of me, that was 15 years ago. That person does not even exist. And I feel like when they always talk about timeline shifting and Brie, like, has a much better, maybe, like, map in her head about, like, how that works. I feel like, Bri, you have a better understanding of time and how time isn't linear and how it can, like, all be happening at once. And, like, this. That. That concept for me is like. It hurts my brain to even think about.
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So I try to just, like, not really think about it. But I feel like one thing that makes it so apparent is when you go through this healing journey and you start to spot the limiting beliefs and, like, the thought cycles, and you really start to dig in and be like, okay, why am I dealing with this thought cycle? And you really, like, boil it down and you get down to the nitty gritty, the childhood wound, the internal, the core intern belief that you believe about yourself and you deal with that.
(19:34):
It's like, when you do that enough. And I feel like between Bri and I, this is literally happening daily for us, that we uncover something and that we, like, deal with it and we move on. But when you're new in your journey, it can take you a really long time to even deal with one thing. And it creates what I call a tower moment of just. It just shakes the whole foundation of what you built your life to be.
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And this is what they call an awakening, is when you learn your very first thing, and it just completely shakes the foundation. But anyways, back to the timeline thing. When you start cycling through that stuff, it just happens that you start getting in your most aligned. Like, when you talk about living life in alignment, you get in your most aligned timeline and you just keep traveling up and up and up.
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And old things that aren't right for you will continue to fall away because they can't come with you to this next timeline. And that's exactly what it feels like. There's no other way to describe it other than just, I don't feel like who I was yesterday. And that is a bizarre feeling. And it is kind of the first couple times it happens when you just, like, wake up and realize that your life isn't working for you. Febre, like, OOP 2222. For Brie, Febri was like, not. Maybe not quite as painful, but for me, waking up to this life that I built it just, like, really shook me to the core, and it was, like, quite intense. But, yeah, then you just, like, keep moving up timelines, and it just keeps getting better.
(21:16):
It just keeps getting cooler. You have so much less that you're hanging on to that's holding you back. You just. It's just so good.
Bree) (21:25):
Yeah. And the thing is, you don't realize this stuff, like, even if you hear it and you think, you know, whatever. Like, there are things. And Morgan and I will continue to learn and have our eyes open to things, too. But there are things that you think that you know, but you just have your blinders up and, like, literally are blind to until you have your eyes opened to them, and then all of a sudden, you can't unsee them.
(21:48):
So we are by no means at the end of our journey, so there will be things for us that come up, too. But the more you practice it, the easier it is to spot these new new things or learn how to deal with them in healthy ways or how to release the trauma or whatever it may be. So you talked about tower moments, which I was going to touch on also, but I want to ask first. Tower moments, they can be positive or negative, right? And you're correct that for me, any tower moment that I can think of, it was. Wasn't as painful. Like, there were parts of it that were uncomfortable or I had to take a leap of faith or whatever, but they weren't as painful, with the exception of which I'm sure you know that I'm going to say losing my sister. But for me, I don't think of that as, like, I know it was a huge tower moment, but I think of that pain not coming from the tower moment as much as from losing somebody.
(22:48):
But the other ones leading up to that, like when I moved across the country, and then when I moved back across the country and started my business, those weren't painful. They were, like, exciting and, yes, scary. But they weren't, oh, my God, how is this happening? And how am I going to get through it type of things. So back to my question. Can tower moments be positive or negative, or are they always negative?
Morgan) (23:12):
No, tower moments can be positive. Okay, here's the thing. Tower moments are whatever you want them to be. Like, I know that that's, like, a really gross way to say it, but first, I want to describe what a tower moment is. So a tower moment is when you've built this amazing life. You've built this tower, you've built this internal landscape in your mind, whatever it may be. And something comes along and, like, shakes it, lightning comes down, crashes it. And what happens and what you realize is that everything that you've been building has been built on a cracked foundation.
(23:50):
And what spirit is telling you is that that cracked foundation can't support the life that you've built anymore. You need to pour a new foundation. That tower needs to crumble in order for you to fix the foundation and rebuild something better, Rebuild something that's actually in alignment with you. So a lot of times tower moments are painful or, like, are what you would say. Maybe not feeling super positive, but the difference between the way you free approached your tower moment and the way I approached my tower moments and why my tower moments were so much more painful than yours were is because I was so fearful.
(24:38):
I was, like, hanging on and fighting for the old still. It was, like, clinging on. It's like when you. When you have this rope, when you're dangling from this rope, and you see it's fraying, and you're like, I know this rope is going to break, but you cling on anyways, and you just, like, hang on anyways. You saw the fraying rope, and you were like, it. I'm out of here. And I hung onto the fraying rope until spirit cut the rope, and, like, I had to fall. There was no other option for me.
(25:10):
I hung on to the old. And you were like, you know what? This is my opportunity. So that's why I feel like your tower moments felt for you a lot more positive. And as you really learn how to kind of spot those cycles and spot those tower moments, bre, you listened a lot more to your intuition. So you had this, let's say, like, when you were in Portland and you were working your very first big girl job, you were so happy until one day you weren't.
(25:41):
And you decided in that moment that you weren't happy and that you weren't going to continue living in that. For me, I just kept going. It's not like I realized I wasn't happy. It's like. Like, spirit had to come in and throw me a curveball for me to wake up and realize that, like, I was just going through the motions and I wasn't actually happy. So I think that that's, like, the major difference of how you can approach these tower moments, how you can approach this stuff.
(26:14):
Instead of being like, oh, my God, I'm so scary, what does this mean? Like, you can spiral in your brain. Instead of that spiral, you can stop yourself, and you can go, like, Wait a second. How may this be an opportunity to actually get into alignment? What next new amazing thing can come out of this crumbling? Because always, always, always after a tower moment, you have the opportunity to rebuild. And it's just whether you want to rebuild in alignment or whether you want to sit and cry over your rubble.
(26:51):
Either way, you have rubble.
Bree) (26:53):
Yeah. And then for those of you who are in my mini course, the manifest code, this might be sounding familiar because I talk about this, but I call it the manifestation collapse, which means that when you're manifesting something, especially something big, and it's, like, so different than your current life that you might see things start to fall away and you might see chaos, and that is exactly what Morgan just talked about. That's the clutter and the baggage getting cleared away to make room for what you actually are bringing into your life.
(27:23):
So tower moments, if I'm understanding them correctly, they can help you grow exponentially in huge ways, or you can choose to not take those signs that the tower moment is giving you, and they can keep you down. And if you choose to take that route, then you're going to keep getting these pushes and nudges and maybe some. Maybe some, like, big event that you don't want to happen because you're not listening to these little signs that you're being given by your angels or spirit guides or whatever it is that you believe in. Would you say that that all kind of tracks with the way you think of them?
Morgan) (28:01):
Yeah, totally. Totally agree. And yeah, and they can happen. Like, these tower moments. Absolutely. Like, can happen when you're manifesting, but they can also happen. Like, say you're not somebody who, like, actively manifests right now, but your life is like this show, and you are like, I am a hot dumpster fire, and I don't understand what's happening. Everything in my life is falling apart. Like, that's just really your opportunity to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like, what is the theme of everything that's falling apart here?
Bree) (28:36):
Yeah. So you say if you're not somebody who's actively manifesting right now. But I do want to point out that we're always manifesting whether we realize we are or not. So if, like, back in the day, if I got my boyfriend's car towed and then I got a parking ticket, and then I was like, and now I have strep throat, and it's like, why does life keep happening to me? It's like, I manifested all of that from being just in these negative cycles or Whatever it may be, I'm not going to dive into all of that. But even though I wasn't back in the day, back before the last like 5ish years, I wasn't actively manifesting. I was still manifesting my reality. And you can choose to manifest whether you believe in it or not. You can choose these positive thoughts which will manifest a more positive reality for you, or you can choose to stay in these negative thoughts that, like we talked about before, aren't serving you. And you're going to manifest a reality that matches that whether you're trying to or not.
Morgan) (29:37):
Yeah, totally. It's like, yeah, and you're right, people just don't think of them going through their normal life as manifesting. But it's really when you hear all of this stuff of your external is just a reflection of your internal. That's what they mean by manifesting. So everything that you, like, if you are. If you're in stuck in this cycle where you're consistently dating shitty people or entering into. Maybe it's not even dating, but like entering into toxic relationship after toxic relationship, it's an opportunity for you to be like, wait, like, I'm manifesting this?
(30:16):
And like, what must I believe about myself to be making this true? Like, what must I believe about my life or about what my worthiness or whatever to. To make whatever this is happening true love that. You brought that up.
Bree) (30:30):
Yeah, absolutely. So then you also mentioned earlier something about going through the motions. Oh, when you were at your job, you just kept going through the motions. And I just got turned on to this book. It's called An Inner Outwitting the Devil. That's what it is, Outwitting the devil. And I sent it to Morgan right away. So we listened to it at the same time. And it is life changing. So when you say going through the motions, I don't know why I can't think of this word right now, but what is it that they call Drifting?
(31:00):
Drifting. Yes. Okay. So in this book they touch on. Actually, do you just want to explain this?
Morgan) (31:06):
Yeah. So in this book, he is somebody who has been somebody who, like, made massive success and then realized he wasn't happy and then he made 33.
Bree) (31:18):
33, yeah, I saw that too. I literally looked up at the same time and saw that.
Morgan) (31:24):
Bri and I have this internal joke about angel numbers. And we're like, listen, if angel numbers are legit, we see them constantly. And that sounds really amazing, but wouldn't it be funny if angel numbers weren't legit? And Our angel or our spirit guides were just like, haha, those losers. Anyways, so in this book he has made massive success. He realized he wasn't happy, he went out somewhere else, made massive success, found out he wasn't happy.
(31:55):
And then he like really just kind of spiraled into this really broke, really scared, really depressed and negative person. And he went through this interview with the devil and what he was saying. And in Tarot, the devil is like, okay, in spirit, in Christianity, the devil is taught to be really scary. And he, and he talks about how he uses that like influence that we're taught to, to gain like power over us in our minds.
(32:27):
And so that's one of the tactics that he uses is fear. And then which like I was experiencing big time in my life and it's still something that I like have to fight every single day. I'm just a very fearful person of like failure and like, just stupid. That doesn't matter. And so he talks about how he gains a lot of his power in and influence on people's minds by the tactic of causing us to drift. And I think that my understanding of drifting in the book was exactly what I explained about how you're just going through the motions.
(33:07):
It's that feeling before you wake up. So if anybody has had a spiritual awakening, that's listening. It's that feeling that you felt right before you woke up, right before you were like, like something has to change. When you're just like going through the motions. Life feels like, like you're just, you're doing the deal just to do the deal. And you don't think about anything and you don't question anything and you don't ask yourself why you're being triggered or what's happening or why you're repeating these cycles in your life. You're just going through the motions.
(33:42):
And he describes that that's like his number one tactic for keeping you under his control, basically. And in Tarot, the devil is all about like your, it's basically your shadow, like your thought processes, your limiting beliefs. And it really encourages you to like, when you get the devil in a reading, it's really encouraging you to like, look at why you're feeling, what you're thinking about and how that's affecting you negatively.
Bree) (34:15):
I knew that you would be much better at explaining that book than I was, which is I was like, you take this one. Not because I didn't like, love and understand the book, we literally both just listened to it. But you're just so much better at explaining things than I am. So thank you for taking that one. So when we're talking about drifting and going through the motions, you said that about your job and how I feel about that. Because when I sent you the book, I was like, wait till you get to the part where he interviews the devil.
(34:41):
That is how I feel about myself. Before I decided to quit my job and start my business, and after. And I fully was just going through the motions until my. I guess you could call this a tower moment, like a mini tower moment or mini manifestation collapse maybe. But it was winter, and we know it gets really dark early in the winter. And I was working in an office, and then on the weekends I was bartending. So I would go into work, it would still be dark or just have gotten light, and then I'd be done with work and it would be dark out.
(35:14):
And then I'd go to the gym, go home, sleep, wake up, do the same thing again. And eventually I was like, I'm not even living life. Especially because I have two weeks of PTO a year. I love traveling, and for me, a big driving force in my life for a long time, which might be why I was so quick to jump on. And I wouldn't say that I have been quick to jump on opportunities all the time, but as life has progressed, I've been more quick to be like, I'm going to move across the country, I'm going to quit my job and start my business because I have this need for freedom, and it's this, like, deep need. Maybe I'm a Sagittarius moon, which is totally relevant and in alignment with that. So maybe that's where it comes from.
(35:55):
But I feel like before my eyes were opened to the fact that, wait, this isn't what I want life to look like for the next 30. I don't. I don't even know. I was 25ish. So however long you work, more than 30 years after that, I was like, this is not what's going to make me happy. This isn't what I thought that it would be. And something has to change. So up until that point, I feel like in all areas of my life, I was just kind of drifting and going through the motions until I decided to break out of that cycle totally.
Morgan) (36:30):
I. I feel like everybody who has woke up has a very similar story where you're just literally drifting, going through the motions, like, not using your own brain. And in this book, the devil says, like, that is. That is the difference between light and dark, and that is how the light wins. And. And I think that's why our spirit guides. I have tingles as I'm saying this, but I think that that's why our spirit guides send us those tower moments, those, like, all those cycles. I think that's why they're taught to wake us up. Like, eventually, after you. You date shitty guy after shitty guy, you eventually have to wake up.
(37:14):
And the unfortunate truth is that a lot of us don't, but the ones that do, it's like you finally take control of your brain. And that's what the devil says. Like, that's where the devil lives, is in your brain, in your thoughts. And if you can start to take control of your brain, not only will you be able to manifest your dream life. Like, you literally, like, even the devil says this in the interview.
(37:39):
You can literally live everything you've ever wanted to live, the moment you take control of your thoughts. But he's really tricky. He's really conniving. He works with, like, fears and, like, implanting things into your brain that you think are yours. And so that's just really your opportunity to stop drifting, to look at yourself, to go within and ask yourself, like, why you're having these thoughts, why you're having these cycles.
(38:06):
That's why it's so important that you collapse that stuff, right?
Bree) (38:10):
And a huge point that they make right away in the book, which ties into what you said about the devil working with fear, is that literally, if you would just stop worrying and, like, stop fearing about not having these things or, like, just trusting that they're yours and that they're coming to you, everything would work itself out and it would be fine. But we can't take away that Even if it's just 1%, we have trouble removing that 1% fear of, like, what if it doesn't work out? What if I don't get to where I'm supposed to?
(38:38):
And that is holding us back. So the last thing that I have on my notes that I want to touch on, I'm skipping over a whole bunch of them because we've been going for a while. But I feel like this one was also just a. How did we not, like, see and realize this thing? So I feel like we should touch on it. So it is when we realized that when we're trying to manifest something, it is not just trying to define what you want to manifest and, like, bring that thing into your life. It's also making sure that you are a match for what your manifestation wants.
(39:15):
So I think that when both of Us like heard that and understood that we were like, no duh, that's so, so relevant. So like when you're trying to manifest, I feel like relationships are really easy to understand this one. And if you're trying to manifest your dream guy, then you also need to become the version of you that your dream guy wants in return. It's not just a one way street there. And that goes with anything else too, like money, abundance, freedom, whatever it is that you're trying to manifest.
Morgan) (39:51):
And I'll give an example. Like when you're like, well what do you mean what would money need from me? Because I feel like a lot of us are just everybody's trying to manifest money. Right. And so an epiphany that I had about like what my relationship with money would need from me is I kind of always had this weird, it's stupid but like that. Well, I'm not going to say it's stupid because I feel like probably a lot of people have this. But I had this thing where I was almost a little bit embarrassed about having nice things or having the things that money supplies me.
(40:28):
And I would always, if somebody would give me a compliment, I would always be like, oh, you know, put it down or whatever it was. And it was just a little bit out of embarrassment. And then I realized I was like, well, if I'm manifesting money, if money was a person that I was manifesting, they wouldn't come to me if I was embarrassed of them. Like, you wouldn't be in a relationship with somebody who's embarrassed of you or who thinks that you're bad or who, you know, whatever, like whatever your view structure is around money really just kind of like, yeah. Being the person that money needs you to be so that it can come into your life.
Bree) (41:10):
Yeah. And then also while we're talking about manifesting money, something that might be helpful is trying to figure out what is it that, like what is the feeling that you want when you're trying to manifest money? Because chances are you're probably not actually trying to manifest the money. What you actually want out of the manifestation is that feeling that you would have when you have that money.
(41:33):
So focusing on that feeling over I'm trying to bring in a million dollars could be super helpful. And it could help you skip past some of those blocks along the way too because you can really zone in on the feeling. So you might be looking for freedom, security, the ability to have a safe vehicle or the ability to provide for your kids or dress in cute outfits or whatever. It is. That's important to you, and maybe that gives you confidence or, I don't know, safety. So whatever is that. That feeling or whatever the feeling is that you'll get when you have that money is really something that you should be focusing on, too.
Morgan) (42:12):
Yeah. And then to add that, it's like you also have to do your underlying belief structure around, like, what it is you're manifesting, because you could be manifesting a million dollars for the freedom that it gives you. But if you don't look at your belief structure around money, then when you receive that million dollars from the universe, it could be like all of a sudden, like, it just, like, you just lose it. Just.
(42:38):
Or you just like. Or you. You freak out because you're like, oh, my gosh, now I have to hold on to this because, like, I will never receive this money again or whatever it may be. So it's kind of like, just do yourself a favor and look at it as a whole piece of pie. And like, yes, like you said, when you're manifesting, like, get to the core reason why you're manifesting that thing, but then also look at, like, your belief structure. So if you're manifesting your dream partner, you need to look at your belief structure around your dream partner, your worthiness, that kind of thing, because, like, there's a reason that you don't already have it.
Bree) (43:15):
Yeah, absolutely. I think. On that note, I'm just going to ask you where listeners can find you if they want to, to show up on your lives, cheer you on, listen to more of your wisdom, or just creep on you.
Morgan) (43:27):
Yay. You can find me at Unfiltered Growth Co on Instagram or on Facebook or morgan.unfiltered on tick Tock. And then I will include a link for Bri to put in the bio. If you want to join my free community. I drop all kinds of stuff. That's where we do our collective readings and just like kind of some extra really cool fun stuff.
Bree) (43:51):
And then since our original interview, you also have started your own podcast. So do you want to share the name of that?
Morgan) (43:58):
Oh, yes. Yeah, you can find me at Spiritual Dumpster Diving, either on Spotify or Apple. And yeah, we talk about all kinds of spiritual goodness there.
Bree) (44:12):
All right, well, thank you so much for being on the call. I, as always, love talking to you. And then I hope that listeners that you gained a little bit of insight and maybe something that will be helpful on your path as a soul just trying to navigate this earth.
Until next week, stay rebellious don't be scared to go against the grain. Make big changes in the world and keep rocking your journey as a rebel CEO. I will catch you in the next episode.
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