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Welcome to the Sea Hawkers Podcast.
I'm your host, Clinton Bonner.
I am joined by my very good buddy, Mr.
Adam Emmett out in Montana.
Adam, we have got some fun tonight forthese Flockers, for the 12s out there.
There is a lot of consternation,a lot of conversation out there.
Is Jalen Milroe any goodat football at all, Adam?
Yeah, it's interesting.
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And so we decided that we wouldgo through and break down each
one of his passing reps here.
And we're gonna go…
There, there's quite a few of them.
Yeah.
So it's not like we're gonna get intothem and break down the minutiae of
exactly what defense is out there,what personnel groupings, all of that.
Like, basically what we're gonna do isgo through these plays rather quickly
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and just see, hey, like was thata positive rep, was that a neutral
rep, or was that a negative rep?
And basically, as complicated as wewanna make quarterback at, at times
and all of that, a lot of it is,like- Are there guys in your face?
Are there guys open?
And if the answer is no to the first oneand yes to the second one, you should
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be able to find a completion out there.
Mm-hmm.
If the answer is no to the, tothe first one, it, like, or yes to
the first one, there's a dude inyour face- Yeah … and no to the
second one, well, good effing luck.
I don't care if you're Tom Brady-… Patrick Mahomes, like anything like that.
So we're kinda just judging it onthat standard there, and, we'll
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see how this goes, 'cause we'regonna try out some new stuff here.
And I think this is gonna be fun, becauseClinton, I'm not on the socials, I
don't do the socials really, all that.
You said you had seen a certain amountof conversation regarding Milroe's
here, first game here in the preseason.
Oh, man, it was a gigantic dial.
A huge, huge spectrum, all the way fromhe, literally he's absolutely trash and
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he needs to go, which is, like, bizarreas, seeing as, like, he's- Mm … a
quarterback, he's in a perfect systemthat will allow him to mature, learn, with
great coaching, with zero pressure really.
He's probably, probably not gettinginto games, because we have a competent
backup and a good starter, all the way.
So that was one end of the spectrum, ishe's trash and should go now, all the
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way to bro, the dude had absolutely notime, and basically he didn't do anything
wrong in this preseason game at all.
So that's a pretty big, cone of,what's the hurricane thing they give you?
The cone of uncer- Cone of uncertainty,yes … uncertainty, right.
Yeah.
So we're gonna, we're gonna examine,we're gonna do the work here to actually
look and see, all right, is that coneof uncertainty, justified at all?
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Are people being tooparabolic on both ends?
And w- is Jalen Milroe progressing?
That's also a big thing.
Year two, is he progressing?
So we're gonna get into it, but beforewe do that, remember, like, subscribe.
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Mm-hmm.
But drop the comments, drop the likes.
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It drives the algorithm absolutelybananas in all the good ways, Adam.
So let's drive our Flockersbananas in all the good ways.
Let's dive into this Milroe tape, buddy.
Take it away.
All right.
So kind of to start out with here, likejust a couple things to kinda keep in
mind as, as we're going through this.
number one, we're gonnado my infinite screen share here.
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Nice.
But, when I pull up the- thescreen mirroring here, and if I just
hit this button right about there.
Look at that, it works.
We- It works … we got it.
We gots it.
And I think we're that.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, nailed it.
All right, very good.
you're gonna see the watermarkon, on this, because this is gonna
be our first time trying this,and I'm not paying for the software
if this is gonna be a disaster.
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so there's that.
Also, do be sure to like andsubscribe, because there's a good
chance this gets demonetized.
Correct.
so if you like these all 22 things, you know, definitely check that.
Also, I just wanted to, say tothe NFL, hey, NFL,- Look, we are
not stealing your money because,you know, if you're the NFL, by us
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showing all this All 22, that's gonnaget some people out there that might
wanna be a film junkie themselves tosign up for NFL Plus or maybe NFL Pro.
And what that does for you,NFL, that equals money, okay?
So we're not stealing from you.
We're making you money, sodon't demonetize us, please.
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So- I like, Adam, I like thatyou're showing off your, your
newly equipped skills brought tous by Video Pencil, of course.
So, hey, if it's gonna be onscreen, might as well treat
them like, like they are.
But- There, there we go … beautiful.
I'm excited for you to give mesome John Madden-esque motions
and everything else here.
Yeah.
Let's, let's start.
So how many…
Give us the, the totality beforewe dive in so folks have an
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understanding of the volume.
How many snaps did, Jalen dropback to pass in this first pre-season,
pre-season game versus the Cowboys?
don't know.
Didn't count them.
So,- … what I'm gonna berelying on you for is to, as we go
through these, just keep track of-Okay … plus, neutral, or minus, right?
And- I have a pencil and Ihave a pad, so I'll do it.
Very good.
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Well, this first play that we're gonnatalk about here, Clinton, this
actually was intended to be a run play.
We got a l- let's see,what do we have out here?
12 personnel with the twotight ends and one back.
Arroyo in a short motion.
We hit snap and then…
Oh, no.
Oh, boy.
Oh, no.
There- I see something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's Jalen.
Uh-huh.
He's on his belly.
You, do you wanna play quarterbackon your belly, Clinton?
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No.
If you're playing Hungry, HungryHippos and you wanna go grab
that last little pellet- Right
that's a pretty good position, 'causeI think Milroe's about to do the Hungry
Hippo on that ball I see there, dude.
He does.
He gets out there.
He reaches out and snags itright there, and so he's got the
ball there, but that equals boo.
Boo.
We hate that.
That's no good.
Negative.
This is, this is a minus,my friend, so th- Okay
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not a lot to talk about there.
you gotta be able to secure the snap.
Is that on Olu?
Is that on Jalen Milroe?
Hard telling not knowing because theywere under center and it's tough to see.
But- Don't know … that is, we're gonnaput that as a negative on Jalen's tape.
Fair is fair.
All right.
So here we go.
We're in the gun.
We got Holani in the backfield.
Looks like we got 11 personnel here,the one tight end with Arroyo at
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the top and, three receivers.
And so let's see him here.
He's gonna take the snap.
Boom.
We're gonna go one, two, three.
On the drop back there, four.
Hits his back foot andhe's ready to rip this.
Where is he going?
He's looking, to me, Clinton, right downthe middle of the old field ski here.
Mm.
And,- Seeing the seam, okay.
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If we're looking down the middle of thefield, where are we trying to go here?
Well, that's because he's looking forsome more Bobo, and he's gonna come over
and sit down right over the middle here.
So we watch Bobo.
He's on the in breaker.
And watch- The little bit ofanticipation here from Jalen Milroe.
Bobo is just startinghis break right here.
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You can see Bobo just starting hisbreak, and we are just now separating
our hands if we're Jalen Milroe.
And if I can get the littledial to work, and ball is out.
One, two, three, four, boom.
Ball out, and dink right on target.
Bobo makes a great catchwhile getting crushed.
Past the first down marker.
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First down Seahawks.
Well, that is a 12-yard gain.
Adam, I'm gonna go out on a limb andsay that's a plus in my book, yeah?
That is a plus.
Big plus.
And here's why it's a plus, Clinton.
Here is the, the end zone angle here,and we're gonna watch here after the set,
one, two, three, four, yeah, ball out.
But watch the back stripe of JalenMilroe's hel- helmet right here.
Okay.
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Okay?
All right.
Okay.
Watch what he does rightafter he gets the ball.
Where's he looking?
He's looking a little-Where's he looking right here?
He's looking the, the middle linebacker-Looking up … off to the left a little
bit, holding it, holding his feeta little bit left of screen there.
That's right.
So he's got, he's got his eyes lockedon 45 there, and why is he doing that?
'Cause he knows that Bobo'sgonna be coming into this void.
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So what he's trying to do is holdthis linebacker right here- Mm-hmm
to keep that space availableto throw the football.
It works.
The second he snaps hishead, snap head, ball out.
Boop, and then look atwhere he puts the ball.
Nice, high.
Look where he puts the ball.
In, away from the, corneror whoever, where that was,-
Yep … guarding Bobo, but plentyof space for the linebacker.
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No, no time to crash down on thator try to deflect it or pick it
off, but also high for a target.
Not high that he can't go get it,and not a murder-death-kill ball.
No.
Just simply a nice high ball thatonly Jake Bobo can come down with.
He didn't have, and he didn't have toleave his feet for that ball, right?
Like, there's- Well, Jake Bobo's,like, 6'3", 6'4", so not- Right,
but why, why are we- He barely,he barely- Why are we jumping?
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you know.
Why, why are we jumping?
a little pizzazz.
We don't need to be jumping.
A little pizzazz.
He just- A little pizzazz … take,take a little bit of an extra hit here.
But we talk about Jalen Milroe,and the big knock on him coming
out was the accuracy, right?
from this tape as we go through,you're gonna see, boys and girls, the
accuracy issue, that's been cleaned up.
Now we're just talking aboutball placement, because there's
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a big difference betweenaccuracy and ball placement.
Accuracy would be can you get it toBobo anywhere in his catch radius?
If you get it to over here, accurate.
If you get it to over here, accurate.
But ball placement, man, we'retrying to get it so that it's in the
exact right spot for him to either-Brought to you by Video Pencil.
Yeah.
By Video Pencil.
But, you get the,you get the idea there.
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Perfect.
Ball placement was excellent on that.
This is a massive plus for Jalen Milroe.
Nice.
And nice zip, right?
And again, the read, hits the,hits the back, back st- foot.
Takes one extra beat to let it come open.
Zips it.
12 yard gain.
We like 12 yard gains.
We like 12 yard gains.
They're not as good as 21 yard gainsas- Correct … Mike Macdonald would say.
But yeah, that last ball,that was a piss missile, man.
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He threw the- He threw thaton a frozen rope, right?
On a 12 yard gain overthe middle of the field.
All right, so here we go.
next play.
And unfortunately the All-22doesn't give us down and distance
anymore before each play, which, hey NFL, bring that back.
Yeah.
That's nice.
we'd like to know the situations.
But- Ooh … here we are under center,back in 12 personnel as we've got,
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two tight ends to start, on one sidehere, on the strong side of the formation.
So we got Arroyo in motion,now we're balanced out.
And one of the other thingsthat we're gonna assume as we
do this, Clinton, is that we'reat a Kyle Shanahan-type offense.
Yes.
Or a Shanahan offense.
That's a pure progression-typeoffense, right?
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So there is a predetermined this isgonna be your one, your two, your
three, for the most part, despitewhat the defense is doing for you.
As opposed to a read defense, like KurtWarner really liked to play, where he's
looking, okay, we've got, you know,numbers over here and that sort of thing.
I'm gonna read this sidefirst, read this side second.
So we're gonna assume that whereverJalen Milroe is, is going first with
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the ball with his eyes is correct.
Because- I- … he's a smartguy, he's a professional.
Yep.
He's been studying this.
I agree.
All right.
So here we go.
Under center, balanced formation,and we've got play action.
Nice little play action here by, by Jalen.
To the boot.
Play action to the boot.
To the boot.
All right.
So what are we gonna get here?
So our receiver here on the bottom,he's gonna try- Cody White, he's
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gonna try to get outside and kindof fade to the sideline here.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
We've got, M- Foster Jr.,
he's gonna be coming over.
Monty.
And then, whoever this is here,they're coming, they're coming on an over
as well, or a crossing route as well.
So basically we're gonna try tocut the field in half and just have
two reads here for Jalen becausebasically it's here and here.
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Mm-hmm.
This is where you're trying to go.
So as we're looking, as he'sbooting off here, we can see Jalen.
Where is he looking?
he's looking sideline right now, yeah.
Yeah.
He, that, that's clearly his one.
He's looking at Cody White here,as, as the one, and we watch Cody White.
It- he's got a zone defender thathe's gonna try to get past, gets
some illegal contact downfield.
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It's not called.
Who knows why?
… and then, he gets pastthe defender and has a step of
separation for a beat, but you alsohave the safety drilling down here.
Mm-hmm.
And whether that's gonna be to drilldown on Foster or if Jalen were
to throw this ball, maybe flip hiships and try to get in for the pass
break-up, that means this is dead.
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Like, nothing here.
So Jalen sees that, and right abouthere, so just, he takes about another
two steps after seeing nope, that's dead.
Goes to number two, which is Foster Jr.,
and now he's no longer open because thissafety had buzzed down to right here.
Nothing there.
So then he goes, as he continuesalong here, he goes to three, which
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is this backside, tight end here,and, wait, d- does that, that
backside tight end, Clinton, do,do you wanna throw that football?
from your position, typically not.
It's, it's a, it's, if you're,you've got a absolute hose, then yes.
But typically no, I don't think.
Yeah, so this would be backacross your body- Correct … into
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the middle of the field.
These guys equal bad.
We- we're, we're not doing that.
We're not throwing there.
That's gonna get you in big time troublewhen you get back to the QB room.
So Jalen's been told, "Use your legs.
Be a weapon."
He goes out there, runs, picks upabout, a quick three yards there.
All right.
So the only thing I would, I thinkpeople will call out here, where
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whatever grade you give this, is Iknow the one was Cody, 'cause you,
you pointed out he's looking that way.
Mm-hmm.
But could he have processed to Fostersooner and got, and got something
with Foster in your opinion?
Okay.
So, from the other angleit's a little easier to kinda
dissect that, but let's see here.
So let, we got, here's the boot.
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We just faked the hand off, right?
Yep.
We're one, two, three steps in-I don't think that Cody White has
declared one way or another if he'sgonna be able to stack this DB.
Right.
So now hips are even.
Even, we're leaving.
That's what we say withthese wide receivers.
Coming down.
He also then, right there, that'swhen he's gotta make this decision
and see where this safety is.
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And since the safety has been playingso far this outside, I'd have loved
to get off of this a little earlier.
Yeah.
Okay.
I can understand why it tooka s- a second to get there.
but because it takes justa beat to get there, then
you've got- Then it's over.
Yeah … that other safety drivingdown- Yep … and now you gotta run.
So.
Okay.
I want, I wanted to get your gaugeon that, if you felt like, okay,
if it's processed just a hair, ahair quicker, could Foster have
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been the guy peeled off as the two?
It appeared to me that he couldbe, but also it was split second.
And once you missed it, you gotta beprudent with the ball and not force it.
Yeah.
We can't just play these in real time.
That's for sure gonna get us demonetized.
So, like, you gotta remember, allthat happened in less than a second.
Yeah, of course.
Right?
but yeah, if he could righthere get off of one and get to two,
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'cause I mean- But that's the…
But this angle, yeah, 'cause that- that'sCody there on the, on the Seahawk, yeah?
Or is that Murphy?
No.
That's, that's, that's Foster Jr.
Oh, that's…
Oh, there.
Okay.
Yeah And he's not covered.
Cody's not here.
All right.
Okay.
I got, I got betwixt.
Yeah.
Right there, I'd love forhim to fire that ball.
But again, so, so okay,we saw it a couple angles.
Yeah.
What, what would you grade this then?
Because looks like- I- … Fostercould've been hit, but…
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I don't know … I've gone back andforth on this, whether it's a, it's a
neutral or a positive, but, look,man, he's trying to hunt for the big play.
That's what he's obviouslybeing told to do.
He's, he's told to go there for one.
if that's the case, then it doesjust make it so that it's just gonna
be almost impossible to get to twoin the proper amount of time, with
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as quickly as this safety up herereacted- Yeah … and came down.
So I'm gonna give this a plus.
If you guys, feel morestrongly that this is a neutral,
then we can give it a neutral.
it's up to you, Clayton.
I'll go plus.
I th- hey, it's still plus three yards,and I like this angle also showing,
'cause before from the sideline, it waslike, oh, you know, you could gun it into
that, that third, leaking tight end.
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But here you can see clearly, no,be- beyond going back across your
body, now you get to actuallysee the width of that throw.
And there were dudes there also, right?
So plus is fine.
It's not a screaming plus, butit's not a negative for sure.
So plus is fine.
It's not…
It's a little better than neutral,so I'm good with it, dude.
Okay.
Very good.
All right.
And it was a positive play.
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And really, you know, plus is did youdo your job and, get the most out
of it, you know, for the most part?
Like, you know, a neutral to me islike- I mean, shoot, I don't know what
the hell you were supposed to do, bud.
Like, there's nothing there for you.
Right.
So- It's almost like a null, right?
Almost.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah.
So here we go, next play in thedrive, and this is the drive that
we, get the missed field goal on.
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So we're out here at 11 personnel.
We're gonna see a lot of 11 personnelout here with, Jalen Milroe.
And, two receivers to the, to theoutside on the left, one on the bottom.
And so let's see where we go here first.
So we got a little short motionfrom a royal return action.
All right, so we'regonna run a bubble here.
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Your favorite play.
A favorite play.
So from a Milroe perspective,clean catch, one step, step
and fire, bink, right on Bobo.
In motion, too, for Bobo.
Like, it…
No wasted, no wasted time for Bobo.
He plays it well, but as far as a bubblescreen goes, that's exactly the best…
He placed it exactly where youpossibly could for what you're
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being asked to do in this play.
That's right.
Now, this, this couldgo for a long-ass ways.
If only.
If only.
Yeah, who's…
Do we know who that is?
Watch Josh Jones,go up against 41 here.
Yeah, yep, yep.
if he could just do something,but instead he goes, "Oh, no.
Ole."
Yep, he just- And whoop- Runsright by him … right by.
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Yeah.
Bobo gets stuck, and, bubbles dowhat bubbles do, which is basically miss.
They burst.
Bubbles burst, bro.
Hell yeah.
So quick, quick out.
There we go.
Right to bubble screen to Bobo.
Decent play.
when I'm go- grade the college guys,Clinton, bubbles are neutrals to me.
Right.
I, I just don't care.
Yeah.
Like, I'm not gonna give you a bunch ofcredit for just doing something I can do.
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So let's call it a neutral.
And he, he did what he was supposed todo with the play, but you know, bubble…
Ju- trying to judge did he play well withthat, I mean, that's a throw any dude
in the NFL should be able to make, so.
Extended handoff, right?
Like, I'm not giving youa plus for a handoff.
Right.
Ex- Okay, fair by me.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, so here we are.
We're in the gun again, and, we're back in 11 personnel
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once again, it looks like.
And, we got two receiversat the top, tight end as well.
Let's see where we wannago with the football.
If you're Jalen Milroe out of the gate,usually you're gonna go strong side
here with all of your weapons that way.
And lo and behold- He's lookingthat way for sure … he's
looking strong side, right?
So let's see where we go from here.
One, two, three, four.
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Hits his back foot.
Second he hits his backfoot, Clinton, what happens?
There's pressure right in the pocket.
so it's the right tackle.
I'm not sure if that was Kight orwhoever, whoever that is at this point.
maybe we could see on the next angle.
But right tackle- It's Hall … givesup the ghost and, and he's
gotta bail for the pocket.
He can't- That's right … hecan't throw or step into that.
Otherwise, it's just, he's,that's, you can't do that, so-
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Yeah … he's gotta, gotta bail.
I mean, riddle me this, like, boom.
Like, you're gonna throw it inthat amount of time right there?
Well, there's also nothing open, right?
So it's like- Right … there'szero open also.
If there was some checkdown thatwas already, designed in,
sure, then you have an outlet.
That's not this play design,so what can Milroe do?
Yep.
And, he's been encouraged bythe, offensive staff to get out
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and use his legs a little bit more.
He gets out, he tries to direct,Holani here to go and get a block,
and he says, "Nah, I, I'm justgonna run around and do nothing."
And he tips it up- I'ma,I'ma, I'ma check out.
Yeah.
Tips those down the sideline.
First down, nice play, and I thinkthe end zone angle shows just how much
Holani couldn't care to, go for theblock because watch Milroe right here.
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Whoop, there's your point right there.
And he's pointing at the backer,and Holani's like, "What, me?"
Yeah Yeah.
Oh, yeah You know?
A- and he's- This, this is me?
Yeah, he- he's like, "Yeah, you."
And he's like, "Nah, I'm good."
Just runs that way, Milroe goes,gets the edge, tiptoes out of bounds.
Nice first down run.
That's a plus, my man.
Oh, yeah, that's…
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How could it not be, right?
So dude in your face, escapes, andthen tiptoes with some athleticism.
Yeah, that's an absolute plus.
You bet.
So back in gun, we're empty.
We've got, four wide withArroyo being your fourth year
as a tight end, in the slot.
So let's see what happens here.
Balance formation.
Which side does he wannastart to read here first?
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So one, two, three, back foot.
We are, we are reading tothis side, to the middle here.
Mm-hmm.
Looks like we're going togood old Kaller up here.
So one, two, three, step and fire.
Boop.
Nekeae.
Oh, and look at theball placement on this.
The, the next, angle here, man,this is where it's gonna be at.
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Let's, so let's get to that.
Here's Kaller up here.
He's gonna come over and just havea little sit route over the center.
Yep.
Super common in NFL.
A lot of times you'll see aback do it, that sort of thing.
But this is for first down yardage.
This is a smart play.
They run everybody off.
You get a one-on-one withthe linebacker right here.
he freezes.
And j- just look wherehe puts this ball, man.
This is not a far throw, thisis not a hard throw, but we talk
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about accuracy and ball placement.
Boop.
Great.
To the outside, opposite leverageof the, of the, linebacker here.
That's an excellent throw.
Yeah.
If that's inside, 42 has a chanceto, to bat it away, tip it,
which is all, all bad things, right?
So- Yep … that's exactlywhere that ball should be.
Yep.
So, that'd be a plus of risky to me.
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You know, that is a plus.
And this- And a first down … thisfeels about right just so far because
you said this was the, I think thisis still the drive where Myers misses
the, the sh- kinda short field goal.
Yep, for sure.
And my recollection was like,no, the offense be- besides
Drew's drive, the offense lookedgood on this, the Myers- Yeah
misdrive too, so.
Yeah.
So far so good.
It was Milroe's best drive for sure.
circumstances on the second drivemade things a little tougher, but,
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we'll get to that here in a minute.
Mm-hmm.
So, so here we are.
again, we've got11 personnel out there.
We're basically four wide withArroyo in the slot, one back.
And let's see what we got going here.
So Jalen takes the snap.
One, two, three, rock and fire.
And immediate quick decision.
He's going…
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This is his first read, clearly, right?
Yep.
Oh, yeah.
Like, watch, watch his head.
Oop, immediately rightover here to Cody White.
And we're looking to see if Cody, CodyWhite can cross the face of this defender.
If it's looking like he's gonnacross the face of that defender,
we're throwing that football.
We're throwing it every single time.
And, you know, I think thefirst down yardage is somewhere
around here on this particular play.
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Feels good.
So, so anyways- Whendoes he release the ball?
Oh, oh, the first, actuallythe first down's right there.
He's at- Right there … thefirst down marker right there.
So- There you go … thiswould be a first down throw.
I know- Goddamn, yeah … I know it's notconverted, but, but we're going through
the process of was it the right read.
Right.
And so, yeah, you gotta trustyour guy to a, to a degree here.
So his hands are alreadyseparated right here, right?
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Mm-hmm.
Like, we're already- Oh, yeah, he'sthrowing the ball … throwing the ball.
Decision's been made.
So this is before Cody White stumblesand doesn't take on the physicality
of the cornerback in the way thatyou were hoping as a quarterback.
He stumbles right here, comes outof his break, and then look at that.
Even with the stumble, all ofthat good stuff, what happened?
Ball is away and outside rightthere for, Cody White, and
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he just can't quite bring it in.
Yeah.
I remember- He says he did.
I, right.
"Look, look what I did."
Yeah.
This is the one that-Yeah … yeah, clearly bounces.
Yeah.
I remember seeing this live, and beyondbelieving Cody White for a second,
because, I'm gullible, I rememberbeing like, "Oh, that's a good ball."
I remember just live beinglike, "Okay, he put that exactly
where he was supposed to."
And again, you could say, okay,is he supposed to make that
throw, the guy's right there ornot, but you went through it.
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He crosses the face.
You expect your receiver to, to, likeyou said, fight through some physicality.
But then it's a…
But if it is gonna be a tightwindow like that, then it's on the
quarterback to be accurate and givethe, give the receiver a legit shot.
Adam?
Yeah.
Call it.
That is an accurate pass, and that's-Yeah … a legit chance for him to
convert a first down right there.
Maybe the only reason, you know, as aquarterback that you might be a little
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hesitant to pull the trigger on thisright out the gate is the way that he
did, DB's playing with inside leverage.
He's not lined up out here.
He's lined up a little inside,making it harder for Cody
White to get across the face.
But, we expect Cody to do that,because he's a big physical guy.
So, I like the, I like therep, I like, the process.
It was on time, in rhythm,good ball placement.
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any problems on this playwere not a Jalen Milroe problem.
I think that's prettyclose, easy to see.
I agree.
So is that a plus in your book as well?
That's a plus.
That's a plus.
Okay.
Well, so far this is like a,the flurry offense versus our
third-string defense on hard knocks.
This is, so far, just togive a quick tally- Yeah … we have five
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pluses to one neutral to one, one L.
So pretty good so far.
Wow.
That's, that's tallying up fast.
I, I didn't know what it was g- thefinal count's gonna look like, so
that'll be, it'll be interesting to see.
So, back in gun.
I think this is thelast play of this drive.
I think this is the fourthdown play, the fourth and two.
let's see here.
We take snap, one, two, three.
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Again, th- we're gonna talk a littlebit about Jalen's footwork on some
of these, because that's my biggesttakeaway from this that I don't love, is
that even these- Mm … little shuffle,these little shuffle drops on the…
in gun, like, why are we, whyare we here with- Mm-hmm … our
back facing backwards, right?
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How are we, how are we not twistedso that our feet- Right … are
more aligned this way instead?
Super open, right?
So the chest is facingreally the goal line.
Right … and the w-as you're draw- drawing it.
You know, my, my kid, tennis is, ishis, his best sport, so he takes some
lessons, and very often he's, he's,he's out there with the coach, and the
coach is like, he's like, "You're…"
He's like, "You can't generate power."
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He's like, "If I could see yourchest and you're facing me…"
Now, there's times to be open.
There's times where the shot- Thereis … will dictate I need to be
open for this, but most times, no.
Y- and, and just like footballfor quarterbacks, it's,
it's gonna be your legs.
Yeah.
So the position he's in,you ain't got no legs, man.
You can't drive the way-Yeah … you intend to if your f-
you know, your front is facing theend zone like it is right here.
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Yeah.
And it looks like our first readhere is gonna be out to Bobo, who
looks to be running a, an out.
Nope, it's a little return route.
So you can watch Bobopivot and then return.
But by the time he doesthat, what's going on?
He's getting, he's getting…
Yeah, the, there's twotackles that are not exactly-
Yeah … doing their best work.
Yeah.
That's exactly right.
So we get one, two, three,four, top of our drop.
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Top of our drop, this ishis back foot right here.
Even though I don't like theway he's facing- Oh yeah,
he's got- there's trouble.
There's tr- troubled water there.
Jo- Jones, just to say veryquickly, I love what he did last
year, love him as a swing tackle.
I thought he was not very goodthis game, and it's A-okay, 'cause
when it, when the chips were down,he was very, very good last year.
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But I did not think he had a, greatgame, as a, as what is our sixth,
lineman, that I, in my brain, cango, "Yeah, that guy should, could come in
and could start for a lot of NFL teams."
He actually had some tape likethis kind of throughout his,
his time on the field, Adam.
Yep, absolutely.
So now that we know that B- Bobo'srunning this return route- Yep … you
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can't, you can't pull the triggernow- Nope … a- and get it to Bobo.
Cody White's not open.
We're bracketed.
so that, that's gonna be no good.
And C- you know, color is flashed inyour face here, getting around Jones.
It is time to go, and so Milroesays, "Yeah, don't mind if I do."
We step up in the pocket, littlesliparooski, but then we get
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our feet again, and we havea Russell Wilson moment here.
And, we shotput the ball over.
Little bit sketchy, littledangerous, but it works.
Careful.
That would've converted the fourthdown if it weren't for the nice
big old fat hold that Josh Jonescommitted after getting beat.
Like, that's the only thingthat's worse after that, is,
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like, if you actually hold, so…
Like, he, he bushes himto the ground right there.
You can see.
Yeah.
He pushed him- Yeah, I justwonder if that's actually…
I mean, he got beat, and then he justshoves the dude in the, in his back.
I, I actually don't think it's ahold, per se, but doesn't matter.
I think the- Block in the back then.
Yeah.
Then call a block in the back then.
Like, that call him.
Sure.
So I mean, the guy, 'cause theguy's also going super wide on
him, so you are allowed to ridethe guy to the ground if he's going
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super wi- wide on you as a tackle.
But all this being said-Yeah … Milroe makes, you know,
lemonade out of lemons here.
Didn't have a lot.
Doesn't look pretty, but he findsBobo, and if it wasn't for the flag,
this would just be a great conversion.
Look at, look at how close that is.
I know.
Yeah, yeah.
There, the ball ba- like,just oh my goodness.
Whoop.
Look at that.
Like- He just flicks it.
"Whoop, that's mine."
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He picks it up.
Yep.
I love it.
Yep.
That's why you pay Bobo to come backhere instead of go to Jacksonville.
That, that was pretty sweet.
All right.
Love Bobo.
So that's the end of his first drive.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait … whatdid you give that last one, Clinton?
Because, like…
It's hard.
I, I don't understandhow that's not a plus.
Like, given what was- Yeah … comingoff the left end there- He made the
play The footwork was god-awful.
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That's the, that's the part ofit that- I- … that makes me
go, "Ugh" You wanna go neutral?
Go neutral.
Let's go neutral on that.
All right.
That's totally fair.
Let, let's be fair.
Let's not be homers.
Totally fair.
It's, it was creative, butthe footwork to start wasn't good.
One thing before we get to thislast one, Mookie Alexander from
Field Gulls joined,- Mm-hmm… Brandan and I for the post-game.
He did, did an awesome job for this game.
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And Mookie said something, Ididn't, didn't catch it live
and actually heard it later.
He's like, he's like, "Hey, Milroe," he'slike, "He's really fast going forward,
he's not very fast going backwards."
And I didn't kinda registerit when he said it.
I was like, "Oh, he justmeans his dropbacks."
His dropbacks sometimes are a littlenot clean or a little, they feel maybe
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a little lackadaisical and not ascrisp or choppy as you maybe wanna see.
And I know you were, youknow, picking that up as well.
Yeah.
They feel nonchalant to me.
Now, are you slow-playing a drop tomarry it with the, with the routes?
I mean, maybe that's happening.
We, we don't know allthe ins and outs there.
But I do know this, theydon't all look the same.
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And- Hmm … to me, from what I've beentold over the years, is that you want
it all to look the same to make it thatmuch more difficult for the defense.
So, as a guy who's just enteringyear two here with Jalen Milroe, am I
surprised that there's work to be done onthe footwork arena of things when you've
been working really hard on accuracy?
No, I'm not surprised by that.
Wait a second.
Wait a second.
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He came from Alabama and Ryan Grubb,so he obviously, he obviously-
knows about seven-stepdrops under shotgun, Adam.
I mean, out of- Yeah … under center,so of course he should know this by now.
Or- Right.
Right … maybe not.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, we're gonna see aseven-step drop or two out of gun.
so that felt a little grubby.
That's, that's getting deep.
That's Arena League stuff right there.
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That's right.
But a lot of this, too, remember,as we start our second possession
here with Milroe, they, they gotthe ball, like, with 40 seconds,
38 seconds, whatever it was.
So this is two-minute drive.
You're trying to push the ball down thefield as far as you can in just a few
seconds, to try to get some points.
So, understand that when wesee the play calling here and what
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Milroe is trying to accomplish.
Like- Yeah … that, that's something,that context matters here, right?
So- Well, they're trying to get in thefield goal range to, to give Myers a
chance before half, I think, from thissituation is, is the, the nut of it.
Is that correct?
That's correct.
Yep.
Okay.
So we're gonna see a lot of 11personnel on this, on this drive.
And, with Arroyo in there,we got him down here, and Holani
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in as, as your back for pass pro.
So here we go.
We're gonna take the snap in…
L- let's see.
We got one, two, three, four, five, six.
He's about to get blown up.
Yep.
And he hits his back foot.
And we've already lost.
Yeah.
Hart's already lost out here.
Like, that's tough.
I don't care if you're PatrickMahomes, Tom Brady, Dan Marino,
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it, it don't make no never mind.
You're boned right there ifyou're a guy who can't run.
But Jalen Milroe is a guy that,can run, so he's not completely boned.
He steps up, breaks the,breaks a tackle there.
Breaks a second one becausethat next lineman gets some,
gets, a hand on him as well.
And now this is exactly what he'sbeen waiting for and what all of
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his coaches have been talking about.
Look at all of that green,green- It's a lot of green.
A lot of green
beautiful open grass.
And Milroe makes them pay.
So he gets out, big long run.
The most electric play for theSeahawks offense of the night, and
it gets us out to about the 50.
I mean, I know we're gonna seethis angle here too to see Hart
get beat cleanly, unfortunately.
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But I mean, how is this anythingbut a plus given the scenario?
He's got a 20-something yard gainwhile he could've been yanked down for
a sack, and then escapes another guyon, on the, coming off the other end.
Gotta be a plus, yeah?
Yeah.
I, I…
This is a massive plus.
This…
So it's one thing to be ableto step up and make the, the
first guy miss here, right?
And, the two ends collidehere, boop, behind him.
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Yep.
But look at what happenswith 95 here as he comes in.
Watch- Yeah … watch thisexplosion out of Milroe.
Ah.
Yeah, he tries to get his left- Get out ofthere … tries to get his left paw on his
other shoulder, and Milroe is still, evenin a, compromised position, he, he can
still contort his body in a way and- Yeah
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and accelerate.
Yep.
And that's, I mean, that, it'sspecial athlete type stuff.
One of the things thatmakes him special, right?
So, so here we go.
This is after a penalty, and, we startto get into, you know, second and forever
and third and forever as we go on thisdrive, which again, now you know the pass
rushers, they know to pin their ears back.
So we got Bobo in motion, andboom, one, two, three, four.
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Right when he hits hisback foot, oh, rook.
Stupid [bleep] rookie.
Look at this.
Bo, Bo Stevens already beat asMilroe hits his back foot, and we're
trying to push the ball downfield.
I mean, we got receivers 20 yardsdownfield already, and these
two are actually gonna kinda,like, muddle to the middle.
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I do not understand these, theseroutes up top here, but I think what it's
trying to do is just kinda, like,…
Whoop, don't do that.
Don't do that either.
Let's see if I can stop,some of the- If I make sound
effects, does it make it better?
If I make sound- Whoop.
Yeah.
Whoop, whoop, whoop.
All right.
Well, it's gonna be what it's gonna be.
Yeah, that's- All right.
So, so, yeah, at this point…
There we go.
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Well, maybe, like, what you're pointingout there too is maybe if they are
funneling, that they're looking for a,a gimme over the middle, like, a, to
g- to get the dump to create a littlespace- Yeah … and go get as much yak
as you possibly can by, by trying todraw those wide receivers to the middle.
It's my only guess.
That's right.
So, I think that's probably the idea.
So he can't even begin toprocess his first read as,
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Bo Stevens is beat here.
So he does what he can do.
He steps up.
Now honestly, he hits that back foot.
If you see that color already, yousee him getting beat like that- Can we
just abandon everything up here- Right
and pitch it to Bobo?
Yeah.
Yep.
Bobo's- Like- And that's thething, Bobo, I think the play
is sucking those dudes in.
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You got a couple of linebackers dropsuper deep because of the time and place.
Get it to Bobo, let him gostumble for six or seven more
yards and, and get into the play.
Yeah.
And we all know in two minute, thedefense is gonna play to not let
the ball get over their head, right?
Yep.
And, you know, I've listened to some ofthe greats talk about two-minute drives
and all that, and it's, and it's aboutjust kinda getting, getting chunks.
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But, like, if it's gonna be underneathwhere you had a guy that's got all
that space out there, go there.
So- I mean, look, it's the NFL.
That space will close really, reallyquickly, but it's still the right place.
You still gotta make a dude make atackle, and if he converts there, Bobo's
probably getting to about midfield.
Yeah.
You know, that's probably wherehe ends up, which is super
positive in this situation.
It, it would be.
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And, make your next down anddistance a lot more manageable.
but again, he's beingpressured immediately.
These are a lot of decisionsto make in about a second.
He steps up, gets out, and then,aw, ends up getting sacked here.
And again, this whole time it'slike, "Just flip it to Bobo.
Just flip it to Bobo."
Yeah.
"Just flip it to Bobo."
And you thi- it looks like he maybe thinksabout it right here Or at least throw
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it at his feet But that's, that's, yeah,but who, who was the, the Vikings guy
last year that threw the ball directlyto Ernest Jones instead, the rookie
that he was supposed to be- Oh, Brosmer
Brosmer.
The Brosio.
'Cause, 'cause I heard all week beforethat week that he was just gonna be
the next Sam Darnold and it was g-that was it, the Vikings were fine.
Yeah.
then he, then he wasn't.
So at the point he's thinking about it,it's just, it's just a little too late.
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Yep, it's a little too late and,look, I'd like to not take a sack here.
Yeah.
I think there was opportunity toget the ball away and, at least
get an incomplete because basically,you know, your order of operations
when you're getting that kind of, pressure early is, the, the
best outcome would be a completion.
That's super highlyunlikely in that scenario.
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Next is an incomplete, next is a sack,and after that is a turnover, right?
Yep.
So let's not take thesecond to worst thing.
Let's, let's get to atleast an incomplete.
I'm gonna give him a minus onthis 'cause I think, I think he
could have kept the sack off thestat sheet for his offensive line.
I knew where it was going.
I had a minus in thebook before you said it.
Okay, very good.
But still, tough rep.
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Yes.
Tough rep.
Oh, absolutely.
Look, there's plenty of dudeswho don't even get as far as Milroe
got, but there's also other dudesthat would've checked that down, you
know, a good half a second earlierand Bobo would've gotten 10 yards.
Yep, and I think of this whole drive,my number one takeaway is, like, hey,
they're gonna build that picket fence.
They're not gonna get beat over top,the Cowboys, so let's just get to our
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checkdown and take the free yards.
And, you know, again,beginning of his second year.
So, like, he'll get there.
He'll get there.
All right, so back in,shotgun, another 11 personnel play.
We get to our back foot.
We even get, like, a, a little hop here.
We get to our second read.
You can see it.
Now we got to our third read.
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So we can see our first read is over here.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
We're looking out this way.
This is gonna be an out.
I don't like the way that thatcorner's playing to throw it out,
like with underneath like that.
That looks like a, that lookslike a for sure pick six, so.
Pick six territory.
Yeah, could be.
Let's not go there.
So we don't.
We get to our second read, which isright here, and I believe the second
read should be over the middle here.
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There are how many?
One- Four … two, three, fourCowboys converging on that area.
That's a big fat no thank you.
so by the time we get tothree, which is now, I think he's
trying to look to Montorie here.
Pocket's starting to collapse in on you.
Could you, could you pull thetrigger right now and hit Montorie?
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Maybe, but as you cansee- Yeah, I'd say yes.
I'd say you could … it would have tobe, it'd have to be right now, right
where, because that's after he hitches up.
Have to be right now.
And watch the, the D end here.
Mm.
He's already had a spin move.
If you pull the trigger, boy, I, Ithink he's probably getting your arm.
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I'd love to see the otherangle when we get there too.
Yeah.
I think just looking at that, andagain, we're slowing it down, we're
free- we're freeze framing it.
Yeah.
It is, to your point what you saidearlier, wh- why you spent time
in the beginning, it's like thisis a progression based system.
It is read number three.
With all that, if it's likecould he have fired in there?
Maybe.
I think he could have taken hischance and, and tried it, but let's,
let's see if there's a, you know,a little more evidence here that
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this guy was in his lap even worse.
All right.
So- Or at his knees, even worse worse.
One, two, three, four.
But he's still looking left here.
So that's the first read.
Yep, yep.
Yep.
Now we're getting to two.
And now he's on second.
Yep.
Okay.
Now we're getting to three.
So it'd be pull it now.
It's tight.
It's tight.
This- that's got, that's got a UCL surgerywritten all over it, to be honest, right?
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I mean, you need to put your armup there and you, you'd get it,
you know, tangled up with the dude.
You could try it.
You could try it, but it, it would be…
It's, it's, that pocketis collapsing, for sure.
Yeah.
It- you are asking for itto get batted down or your arm
to get clipped on the way up.
I'm gonna give this a neutral.
Okay.
'Cause I, I think you could pullthe trigger there, but also,
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too, like, we, we got from one totwo to three in, you know, it…
We- when the first time you've hada clean pocket since maybe, what?
Second, second play of the game?
Like…
So pretty, pretty sweet that he was ableto do that, because I know a lot of people
were talking about the processing and notbeing able to get through reads, and it's
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like, hell no, we got to three there.
Should you pull the trigger there?
Probably … well, if, if, who,I don't know who the left, the left
guard is for Seattle in this one.
I think it's,…
Well, who's 78 there?
Whoever that is, if he holds upa little bit stronger- Richmond,
yeah Okay, yeah, Richmond.
If he holds up a little bit longer,then, then he, then the pocket wouldn't
have had the, like, crumple zone on him.
But, you know, it's the thirdread, and, at, at that point
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Richmond does finally get beat.
He, you know, it's apretty good rep until…
A little more sustain wouldbe useful there, but it's
not gonna happen every play.
It's fine.
Yep.
But it, it, I don't think hewas just holding the ball for
no reason there either, right?
Like, to generate that sack for himself.
No, no.
Yeah The f- the firsttwo reads were not open.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I'm gonnagive that a neutral.
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could've been better- Oh,totally fair … could've been worse.
All right, so here we go, back in the gun.
And again, oh, secondsir counting down here.
Takes a snap, back to drop.
Actually has a beat to go toone, and again, we're starting
off on our left-hand side.
We're looking out here.
Are we looking to the flat or are welooking to the deep guy, I wonder?
I'm guessing he's reading deep to,to short, in this situation,
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'cause you need a [bleep] ton ofyards in a short period of time.
Yeah.
would be my guess.
So we get to one.
Our…
He can only look at one.
One, one hitch, and he's alreadygot pressure from left tackle
Josh Jones missing his block.
Now we gotta step up.
We step up, and once we step up, likethis is my critique on this play.
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We step up, throw it now.
Mm-hmm.
Like, what are we doing?
Throw the football.
Throw it or run it.
Yeah.
You know, like, I don't know.
We're, we're looking right at him.
And yeah, okay, so it was a little quickerthan I thought that he got to that.
So there you go.
He threw it, got it to Arroyo.
He gets out of bounds.
They keep the clock running, wehave to call time out, and that's
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pretty much the end of that.
But…
Or that's his first step on the, onthe back foot there, and he's got
one hitch, and good night, Irene.
Now, I wonder, you know, we watched HardKnocks episode three, and there was that,
that little bit of oddness with, thatconversation in, in the QB room where he's
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talking about it being a Ferrari in thegarage and like, "Let it go, let it go.
Like let, let it rip."
And not throw the ball, let itrip, like use your feet more.
I wonder with the parting of theRed Seas there at the very, very
beginning- Yeah … if they're, if inthe film room they're like, "Jalen,
that's what we're talking about."
Now, again, down distance, we gottaget to a certain area to tr- to
try and get something before half.
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But I do wonder if once he sawit split, are they, do they
wanna just, just, "Hey, go."
You got a good path to probably go get 20yards if you just take off once it splits
like that and there's no linebacker.
It's completely vacated.
Yeah.
I think this was third in a million too.
Right.
Okay.
for, for context.
And- Yeah, that's reallyimportant context.
Yeah.
And as a whole, like, I want myquarterbacks to get the ball out
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of their hand and into somebodyelse's hand to do that running.
Is Milroe special?
Do we want him running?
Probably.
I don't think you're picking upthe first down one way or the other.
I mean, we could see the firstdown markers way the [bleep] up here.
Oh yeah, yeah.
For, for sure.
Yeah.
I mean, that is third and forever, sothat, that's good, very good context.
I do wish the NFL would just bring backthe down and distance on these thingies-
Right … 'cause they were useful.
Yep.
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So I believe that tookus to the end of half.
So yeah, I believe this is our first,first play of Milroe's second half here.
And, again, a bunch of 11personnel, two receivers at the top.
We're under center, one,two, three, four, five, six.
Hits the back foot, little shufflestep, and he steps and fires
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and throws a beautiful ball.
And yeah, was this the, theFoster drop to start the half?
It is.
Catch the bleeping ball.
And he played pretty well, andstill that is a, that's a bad drop.
Yep.
But, but the- The, the,the backdrop, you know, the,
the footwork, the shoulders.
Like, everything there looks like, ohman, like you were saying, hey, if…
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That should look similar everysingle time, kind of like a
pitcher who's throwing a baseball.
The changeup should look just likethe fastball because that's how you
get the, the, the batters fooled.
Similarly here, Adam, the footwork andshoulders and everything looks perfect.
And by the way, oh, a big shock,he had a little bit of time.
He had a little bit of time.
Look at that.
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They…
you know what I love?
Pocket thingies.
Yeah, pocket thingies are the best.
Although people that don't love pocketthingies are defenders, but, what
I love here is you can see Foster,he's just starting his break- Yep
right?
Yep, mm-hmm.
And hands are separated right now.
you can see that with, with Milroe.
He's, he's starting the firing motion,so he's already got it ripping.
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He throws an absolute strike.
Yep.
Perfect ball placement, catch the ball.
Yep.
The only thing here was,it was he didn't catch it.
Everything else, including theroute, is exactly what you wanna see.
Yeah, and then from the backsideyou see just what a good ball it is.
That's a, that's a giantplus for, for Milroe there.
Mm-hmm.
First read, decisive, foot inground, a little bit of anticipation.
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Not capital A anticipation, buta little anticipation, you know?
So we like to see that.
I think that's growth there.
And again, how many airmails have we seen, Clinton?
Zero.
Zero.
All right, so we end up in empty.
out a gun and late in thesnap, right before the snap of
the ball, good job by 27 here.
He sneaks up to, to blitz.
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I think Cowboys bring five on thisplay, or it's kind of a, a mush rush
on the, on the outside of the pocket.
Yeah, I think a five.
Yeah, I think he's coming though.
Yep.
And then, kind of peels off.
Oh, then he's dropping back.
Okay, yep.
Yeah.
But first off, when that happens, andit happens late in the down, both,…
I believe it's still Hart out there, and, Bo Stevens, they've gotta retarget.
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And they do a good job retargeting, right?
Because the, the tackle takes 27.
Bo Stevens takes the inside guy.
There's only one downside to that.
So Bo Stevens takes him on, dips his head-Mm-hmm … lets the defender get h- get
into his chest, and then what happens?
Oh boy, you just get walkedback there like you're a rookie.
Look at that.
Yeah.
Like, pressure right in Milroe'sface, and that is right…
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Now is this top of his drop, andhe's got a dude a yard away that's
about ready to clean his clock.
He tries to get it off fast, whichis good processing because he knows
that his outlet is down here, andso that's where he tries to get to.
But by the time he does, unfortunately,dude's got his hand coming up in M-
Milroe's chest there, so we gottathrow off the back foot, which is
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where we had inaccuracy problemswhen he was in college, folks.
When he didn't get his hips andhis right foot through the ball,
this is what it looked like.
And when that happens-We hit the sideline.
Yeah.
But in my opinion,that's a good incomplete.
That's a good incomplete.
Immediate pressure, up the gut, good luck, figuring out what to do from there,
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and, to just get it out, not take thesack, I think it's a good incompletion.
There's literallynothing you can do there.
Like, nothing.
That's…
I, I mean, okay, m- yes, you wannabe a little bit more accurate off
your back foot as you're gettingcrushed, but- That's fair … at le-
at least it's, it's out to the outside.
It's not a, it's not a ball that the, cornerback or, if that's a safety or
a linebacker, could undercut whatsoever.
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So it's almost a little no harm, nofoul, but what are you supposed to do?
The- Bo Stevens just lunged, kindof took a stab, and was just beat
very, very cleanly unfortunately.
Yep, for sure.
And, we're gonna seethat a few times on the film.
Bo, Bo had himself a rough day.
There's a reason, he hasn't maybe, done what we thought he'd do and
displace Anthony Bradford to this point.
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But, anyhow,- But, but give-… I'm gonna give that a neutral Okay.
Yeah.
Neutral, neutral's super fair.
I mean, it's, it's verging on plus.
It, obviously if he completes- Yeah… that, it's a plus plus, because then it's
a super hard one to be accurate with.
Neutral's fair.
Yep, there we go.
All right, so gut again,11 personnel again.
here we go.
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Hits his back foot Pocketthingy … decisive pocket thingy.
He's gonna rip it to his firstread to, to Foster Jr.
up top here.
And he rips that thing on an out,about a 12-yard out, and it ends up
being a completion, which is nice.
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We like completions.
I do.
We like first downs.
Mm-hmm.
But what we don't like, Clinton, aswe get here, not inaccurate, but the
ball placement isn't where we want it.
The corner- A little inside.
Yep.
Yep, a little inside.
So if the, if the corner's a bit stickieror broke a little sooner on Montee Ball
out there- Yep … it could be a littledanger zone is what you're pointing out.
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That's how pick six happen.
Watch, watch Milroe's reaction, here towards the end of this.
Watch this.
He, yeah, he's starting to run back.
Yeah.
He's starting to run.
Yeah, he's starting to run back.
He does the little hop here.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
But yeah, you see him at the bottom ofthe screen here, folks, because he knows,
"Oh, no, I left that too far inside."
Foster does a great job fightingfor the ball, coming back to it,
makes the, makes the completion.
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so I'm gonna give that a neutral.
Mm-hmm.
A damn near, a turnover,but it was a completion.
But it was, yeah.
What is is what is, right?
Yep.
Neutral, again, that's totally…
Neutral's fair on what was a firstdown, I think it was a first down
conversion on, on a nice, on anice out route by, again, Foster.
If he doesn't have that drop,and I know he had a, you
know, some sort of offsides thingor, later or earlier too.
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Does, if he gets rid of thatdrop, Foster's having quite
a nice game on, on replay here.
Yep.
Absolutely.
So here we go.
under center, big seven-step drop, andat the top of our route- But who's that?
Who's getting…
Why is this…
Who's getting beat again?
Is that Bo?
It is.
It's,…
Well, let's see.
Let's go back here.
Yep.
It's,…
Oh, no, we got, that'sHart who's getting beat.
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That's Hart?
Okay.
Yep.
And, tight end, thatmust be Vannett, 83.
Yeah, Vannett.
he's trying to take onthe corner safety type there.
He gets beat too.
He doesn't do good - Yeah,come on, man … either.
Come on, man.
We got- I'm, I'm more, I'm moreconcerned about, about,
you know, Hart getting beat.
Well, not really concerned 'causeb- both these guys are, you know,
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a fringe, fringe roster guys.
Yeah.
But of the two, it's like I, I reallyjust hate to see a, your in- your
lineman getting beat- Yeah … acrosshis face on the inside there and, boy.
Yeah.
All of this, we hate it.
Bad job.
We can do better.
So we hit our back foot.
Now, who's open?
Who's open?
The, there's- Where's he supposedto go with this to not take a sack?
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Where are- Literally no,literally nothing here.
Nothing.
Yeah.
Nothing, nothing.
Yeah.
this is, this is all bad news.
I don't like that.
Like, you know, we even stillhave a deep safety just kinda
chilling, waiting to do something.
back leaks out late, butI mean, you're not gonna get
to him by the time- Yeah.
No, I mean, no By the time he gets there.
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No.
There's just nothing…
I- this has gotta be a neutral, right?
'Cause there's nothing he can do here.
Yep.
This is definitely a neutral,you know, because the sacks I think
is one of the things that made alot of people be like, "I'm over it.
He can't process.
What's going on here?"
Right?
And it's like, well, is that true?
You know?
Mm.
Like, no, no, he's processing fine.
He's, he's looking at that beinglike, "Don't turn the ball over.
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Don't do something stupid."
Yeah, and- He's the sack … andto your point, the, it, if that's,
I forget who the ba- who therunning back is at that point.
Harmon.
Yeah, okay.
So the, the running back, it's, it's notlike he's late or whatever it is, but
he also didn't come across whatsoever,so like sight line-wise- Yeah … he's
just behind a wall of dudes also.
Yeah.
So it's like, he's not there.
He's not open.
Yep.
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Not a lot there for, for Milroe in theoffense, so, and that gets you behind
the sticks and then things start getting, you know, really exciting,- Mm-hmm
as a player.
So here we are again, again.
We're gonna throw the football onemore time here, boys and girls.
We're going empty.
Harmon- Mm-hmm … goes outto get Trips on the right, and
we're reading that bottom sideof the field to start with here.
So we're gonna hit our back foot now.
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And guess what?
Oh, my stars, we're getting beat up.
[bleep]
Like, it's, it's instant.
Yeah.
It's instant.
I, I mean, he's, the nice part of the,the area here that he has a little bit
of ability here is the interior heldup, so he can step up and I'm assuming
that he at least attempts to step up.
Right.
I forget how this one goes.
But knowing Milroe, I'm sure hetries to buy a little time by,
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by climbing the pocket a bit.
Yeah.
And so in this moment as he hits hisback foot, and we're reading this
side of the field, I'm sure he'strying to read the deep guy first and
reading this top down because, again,our first down's all the way over here.
Yeah, exactly.
Right?
Yeah.
Like, I don't know what down it is at thispoint, but, you know, we're, we're,
we're needing some, some yardage here.
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So- We need a chunker.
We need a chunker.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because, you know, obviously if you'rejust looking at this and being like,
"Well, how come we didn't go here?"
And it's like, well, okay, I mean, we'rereading here first, so- Right … let's
see what happens after he reads there.
And again, this all happens inabout a quarter of a second.
We got one hitch.
He looks at that.
He's still looking at thisand going, "Yeah, no."
The dude's in a paral- he's ina literal parallelogram there.
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Almost a, almost a pentagon, you know?
There's another- Right … afifth side coming in.
Yeah.
Yeah, we don't, we don't like thoseif we're him- No … as a quarterback.
We're not throwing there.
Now, after that second hitch and we'vestared this down and we see all of
those dudes out there, do we need toimmediately get to the check down?
Yeah.
We do.
Yeah.
We do.
So we don't get to it.
We drop our eyes because we seeour lineman come across our face
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here- Mm … although he's notblocking anybody, and we panic.
There's no reason.
There's no reason.
This is still a good pocket thingy.
Yeah.
Just hang here.
Just hang here.
Let your guys work.
So he gets out and then turns anothing into a positive, which
is, this is why he's special.
Gets outside of the pocket, hits Vannett,and we get, pick up a few yards here after
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there wasn't much there to start with.
Okay.
Yep.
But at the end of the day, Clinton, Idon't know Like get to our check, we
need to get to our check down here.
And not that we can see any of thereceivers, but- But he should be-
We've already, we've already got back.
All right, that's read one.
Listen to your feet, right?
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Like Sam says.
You're ripping that to oneif you think it's open.
It's not open, so now we're hitching.
Now we're to two.
Right here we're to two, butyet we're still looking at one.
Yeah.
A- and, and two was open, aswe saw in the, you know,
the frame previous basically.
Yep.
And, now we leave a cleanpocket for, like, no reason.
I mean, a- again, are we Shedeur Sanders?
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Like, here we go.
We get out, and then wemake something good happen.
I'm gonna give it a neutral.
Should be a minus probably.
Let's give it a minus.
Who's the, receiver in the middle ofthe field that actually is coming open?
So, like, he's, he'sflagging it there, right?
But- Oh, we got the mailbox up here?
Yeah, so- Yeah … if he hangs,like you're asking him to
hang a little bit longer- Yeah
like shuffle the feet and don'ttake off, I do wonder if he had
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an opportunity when it was backhere, to g- you know, to, to…
it'd be a bit of a br-backyard play at that point.
But if you hang in the pocket, maybe,maybe there was an opportunity that,
he ends up- Well- … not seeing… here's, here's the thing about that.
So this receiver up here you're talkingabout, 84, he's running an inbreaker.
Oh, that's- Okay … Henderson, I think.
Is that Henderson?
Yeah, I think so.
And so when we're looking atthat, we're running- He- … right
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into coverage here … ru- yeah.
And, and he's starting to go leftalso, so it's probably- Yeah.
So now- … not the last place to-
the Millro starts toescape out the pocket.
Now, because of scrambledrill rules, you're gonna see
Henderson break and start.
Right.
Exactly.
And that's when he gives,throws up the mailbox.
Yeah, see, that's- Look,it's all wide open.
Here I am.
Yeah.
Now he's, now he's- And it's like, okay.
I've got, this guy wants to killme, that guy wants to kill me,
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I think I'll just go right here.
You know, you know who would've thrownthis ball and put it o- on, on a line?
I don't know.
Caleb Williams?
Drew Lock.
Drew Lock.
Okay.
The hose would've tried it.
He would've tried it.
He would've tried it.
Probably.
Probably.
But, you know, yeah, it's a positiveplay in terms of, you know, we get,
we get a completion, but eh.
I don't know.
So what, what are you giving it?
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I'm gonna give it a minus.
I, I- Okay … I just feel like youneed to get to that check down soon.
I agree.
I agree.
And, you know, this is, it- thescoreboard's evening out a little
bit at this point- Yeah … butit's still, it's still…
M- again, remember, rememberthat, neutral is like, it
doesn't even really register.
You know?
It's not like, oh, it's neutral,therefore- Yeah … it's kinda bad.
That's not what it means.
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Neutral means- You did your job-Y- … you're a professional.
Yeah.
Or there was nothing there youcould've done, period, right?
Right.
So that, that's theother- Yeah … neutral.
So, okay.
So you did all you can do.
Yeah.
You know?
That, that's kinda where neutral is.
All right, in the gun again.
Let's see what we got.
A lot of gun.
We go empty.
A lot of gun, a lot of empty,and- Yeah … that is prevalent.
Yeah.
Well it, remember, he played primarilyin gun, like exclusively in gun
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a- Alabama even before Grubb, andthen he got tainted by Ryan Grubb.
And, so this is what, thisis what he's most familiar with.
So okay, let's throw him in gun.
So then we go empty.
We hit the top of our drop, back foot, andlooks to be that we're trying to go middle
of the field at one, if I had to guess.
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And that looks like the first…
'Cause this is, this is basically,like, maybe three or four because it's
one of your more of your underneathroutes, but this is the first of your
deeper routes that's coming open.
Boy, I, I'm not throwing that football.
Nope.
Shouldn't.
So he doesn't throw that, and he,he, he wanted to for half a tick.
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Pump fakes, steps up, and takesoff Picks up two, three yards.
So let's look at it from the endzone angle, 'cause I think that's
a little more informative here.
again, remember, hard knocks.
Take the Ferrari out of the garage, Jalen.
The, the running is whatmakes you special, Jalen.
This is what makes it sowe can't play man, Jalen.
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We want you to run, Jalen.
He sees one, doesn't like it.
After he sees one, doesn't like it.
The Red Sea parts.
Yeah.
I, I, I- You've been coached to do this.
I hear you.
I mean, I, I think you andI would prefer, he's got 83.
He's just sitting there fiveyards, 10 yards downfield.
He's open.
He's open.
He's got space.
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There's nobody there.
Yep.
It'd be nice to put that ball inhis gut and let him turn around
to get, you know, two more yards.
Yep.
Not only that, but you're facing zone, you know, defender is facing you, so
they're gonna be able to track you downpretty quick, which they did, right?
Yep.
And, limited to a, apretty, minimal gain here.
But yes, I, I don't, I don't see thereason to bail from this pocket other
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than, run Jalen, take the Ferrariout of the garage- Yeah … Jalen.
You know?
The, to me, this is one of the worstones on film so far because- Yep … A,
I think the pocket is still fine.
There's a pocket there.
Yeah.
And I think he has an outlet justsitting right in his, r- right in
his line of sight that he really justcould have taken the easy yards that
quarterbacks need to take in the NFL.
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Yep.
So didn't love that rep for Jalen.
that's a minus for me.
I agree.
Okay.
All right.
Last play right here, boys and girls.
It is fourth and two.
They are going for, a touchdownhere to try to cap off, this drive
that the special team set up for him.
Foster Jr.
is actually gonna run the sameexact route that he ran for
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Drew Lock on the touchdown.
He's just doing it on theother side of the field.
So you're gonna see Foster Jr.
come, kind of bend it inside in…
Or let's see.
Break it outside and then bend it inside.
That's what we're trying to do.
So he's gonna come up, try tobend it outside, create some
separation, bend it inside.
And that's read one here for, for Milroe.
He takes the snap back foot.
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This is where we're going.
We're trying to get to Foster Jr.
But look what happens.
This backer comes down.
It's a fortuitous bust.
A fortuitous bust.
Okay, Sean.
So he comes down and he does agreat job, this backer, of getting
up on the receiver to muddy thepicture, but then also continue down
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to try to cover the back that's,that's coming out of the backfield.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think the back coming out, who, whodoes, go basically, ends up getting
horizontal in a, a frame or two more isstill interesting to me, but he's, but
the, the cowboy that you're pointingout to certainly took away the- Right.
But we only get time for one read here,Clinton- Yeah … because looky, looky.
Yeah, yeah.
What's going on?
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Oh, we're getting beat a right tackleagain around the edge, so that's fun.
Yeah … so also watch, watchJalen's feet on this drop back.
There we go, and boom.
We're settled.
He wants to throw it right now.
He wants to throw it right now so bad.
I mean, yeah, you're atthe two-yard line, right?
But, you know, and, and I'mnot making a Seahawks joke.
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I'm making a, everything'scondensed down here.
This- Right … that's the timing isthat's when you wanna get rid of the ball.
Otherwise- So- … it getsusually worse … yep.
So we do this little foot shuffle.
Watch his feet.
Little, like, rock front to backright here, just to try to buy
him some time because he feelsthat linebacker coming downhill.
Now he wants to throw it again, butby now, our other backer here has
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recognized it, and he's gonna close.
I guess it's a safety type.
There we go.
He gets in, closes the lane.
But by that time, you'regetting, you're getting harassed.
We're trying to get out of the pocket.
Cue the Benny Hill music.
Yeah.
we slip, right about here.
Jalen's like, "[bleep] my life."
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"I hate this."
And, it's a sack, another touchdown.
Would not recommend.
Yeah.
Do not recommend.
Zero stars.
Zero stars.
Zero stars.
But yeah, you can see from the end zoneangle here, he wants to throw it now.
I also don't love, you know,hopefully, again, this vanilla stuff.
You're not gonna break out yourbest on a fourth and two in the, in
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the first preseason game, but boy,oh boy, are we really seemingly
purposefully with these routes jamin the middle of this field, too.
Like, there's- Yeah … there'sfour dudes, right, and, and
if he- Yeah, we're converginghere, we're converging here- Yeah
and we got dude man in the middle, right?
It's just like you're, you're,it's already a condensed
space, and you're not…
Now I guess the other antithesisof that is you go, "Well, then what
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do you wanna do, go throw a fade?"
Honestly, on fourth and two, not really.
I don't love a 50/50-No … fade on fourth and two.
I'd rather try to do a rub,get a guy open, and scheme it.
It just seemed like it just,they w- they, you know what, you
know what it seems like, Adam?
Yeah.
It seems like it was coveredwell, and they got pressure.
Yeah.
And, it also seems like if,yeah, the backer didn't take and kinda
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help out with Foster there right atthe beginning, this is a touchdown.
Yeah.
And it looks just likeDrew Rock, Drew Lock's.
Well, Drew Lock has stones andthrew it before, Foster
even, even turned around.
Yeah.
But- Yeah … he, but he could notdo that here, Milroe, 'cause
he just, he was never open, so.
Oh, that stunk.
All right.
There we go.
So there, there you have it, folks.
Cool.
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That's all of Jalen Milroe thatwe have for you guys today.
Well, let's tally, shall we?
Let's tally.
All right.
So let's give the, thevolume first and foremost.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna count, to myself with- not aloud.
Okay, so Clinton's counting.
I think it was 17.
Everybody take a beat.
This could be a minute.
Yeah, I think it's 17.
Let me count that again.
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Yeah.
Four, 10, two,three, four, five, six…
Yeah, 17.
So 17 drop backs.
17 total?
Yep.
All right.
Okay.
So where do you think…
How, how many pluses outof 17 you think we got?
Pluses.
Six?
We were seven.
Seven, okay.
Which is not like, you don'tjust divide this, folks, and go,
"Oh, seven out of 17, he stunk."
No.
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Neutrals, we had one, two- Yeah … three,four, five- Are, are fine … six.
We had- Neutrals are fine.
We're not mad about neutrals.
No, again, it, again, neutral is, in thisexercise, he did everything he could do.
Yeah.
Right?
It's not a negative.
Yeah.
There was six.
So 13 out of 17 were either neutralor positive, leaving four, and I
think if you watch this, and thankyou, hit the subscribe, hit the like.
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Yeah.
If you watched this so far,I think it was pretty fair.
There were some neutrals thatcould have been positives.
There was some negatives where theywere positive plays- Right … but
we think he made the wrong decision.
So I think- Yeah … you led thisexercise in a really strong way, but
7 out of 17 purely positive, 13 outof 17 either neutral or positive.
And remember, some of those neutrals, hehad, he could not do anything about it.
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Right.
And if I'm looking at that, andwe, we grade it out that way,
and if you guys disagree in thecomments, please, like, let us know.
Yeah, let…
Please, please.
Come share.
that was a productiveday for Jalen Milroe.
Lots of things to learn from.
Some positives, some negatives,some good no decisions, right?
Mm-hmm.
Like, don't throw that ball into traffic.
Don't do this, don't do that.
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We didn't see theaccuracy issues, you know?
We saw some getting through yourprogressions when, heaven forbid, the
threes gave him a, a beat to do it, right?
And I think that's a, a productive,overall positive day for your third-string
quarterback at the beginning of hissecond year, who hasn't seen live
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bullets in almost a full calendar year.
Yeah.
The thing, looking back on theexercise, which I think was super,
super worthy, I hope people share this.
You know, please put itout there back on Twitter.
Share this with people.
Cl- take a, a segment, take aclip and, and give it to some
folks who might be screaming thatMilroe's just no good at all.
The thing that stands out to me themost is not just like, okay, this is
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pretty competent quarterback play.
That's evident by whatwe just went through.
Yeah.
And I was…
I did not know what this was gonna be.
I, I didn't see this footage nor know whatyou were gonna say about these, so that-
that's my, my, my legit live reaction.
The thing, the most important thing tome, Adam, is when his one was open- Yeah.
He fired the ball to the one whenit was open, read it the right
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way, and the placement when hehad a little bit of time was good.
Yeah.
And it leads you to believe that withmaybe a different supporting cast
around him, say, you know, guys that…
Like, they're okay at what they do, likeJaxon Smith-Njigba, or, you know, A.J.
Barner, or Shaheed, or, you know, be,be supported by a, a running game, or,
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I don't know, maybe have tackles that, are, you know, they're, they're
mediocre I guess you'd say- … with, Charles Cross and Abe Lucas.
Like, golly.
It's just like with Sam Darnold, right?
Like- Yes … when he had garbage aroundhim, like not a lot you can do with that.
He finally started to get somereal coaching, real players around
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him, and real opportunities, andnow he's a Super Bowl champion.
Yes, he is.
Yes, he is.
We, we are all Super Bowl championsbecause believe it or not, the Rams
didn't win the Super Bowl last year,and they haven't been crowned- No
Super Bowl champ this year, althoughthe media still likes to do that.
But this was fun.
Hey, we're gonna put this outwe think Thursday night, maybe
Friday morning at this point.
we'll figure that out.
But I say that to say we get anotherbite at this apple in a couple of days.
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In fact- Yeah … we're gonna getthe, the Tennessee practice reports
streaming in to see, like, okay, that'sgonna be some, some really cool stuff
to see what's happening in Tennessee.
But then we're gonna get, get agame Sunday where you can bet your
bottom dollar we'll see more Milroe,and we'll get another chance to
see, okay, I, I wanna, Iwanna see, is he gonna, like…
Is he gonna quote-unquote "let the Ferrariout more," or are we gonna block a little
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bit better for him this time aroundand he's gonna even improve from here?
My biggest takeaway when, again,Mookie was on with us with Brandan
at the, the after show- Yeah … Iwas like, "Hey," like I didn't
think it was perfect, but markedlybetter from last year to this year.
Yes.
Like a big improvement.
And with a team with three quarterbacksthat just won the Super Bowl, that
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plays great defense- I, I, I don't know.
I couldn't be more, it's not like happy,it's just more like this is the right
pace to try to get Milroe to be a pr-really productive NFL quarterback.
He's in the perfect scenarioto see what he can be.
So let it mature, and don't throwthe baby out with one preseason
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game's worth of bathwater.
That wasn't poor.
Correct.
That wasn't poor, right?
Correct.
Because to Mookie's credit, whathe said, his, the way he described
it, like there was some good stuff,but also too, like, you know,
room for improvement in some spots.
Like, Mookie's spot on.
Tape don't lie.
We just went through it.
And if you guys found this valuable- Yes
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like, again, we're, we're notgoing crazy deep on all of these.
If we did that, this wouldbe a five-hour video.
It's already an hour long.
Like, if you like this, please dosubscribe, share, and like, because we
are likely gonna get m- demonetized, for doing this sort of content.
And if you guys like it, we'dlove to do more for you, because I
actually find it quite enjoyable.
I, I really do thinkthat it's a good time.
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look, help us out if you can.
And again, NFL, we'remaking you more money.
We're making- … more fanatics andsickos like us to consume your product.
So be, be nice.
Be nice.
And, and Adam, I think with that- There'sonly one thing left to say Go Hawks.
Go Hawks.