Seahawks Camp Check-In: Byron Murphy, Depth Chart Battles, and a Real Concern

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Adam (00:09):
Welcome to the Sea Hawkers Podcast.
I'm Adam Emmert.
I'm joined by my good buddy Clinton Bonner.
And Clinton, you'd gotten with me here maybe, like, Friday or so and
said, "Hey, this weekend let's, let's talk a little training camp."
And you had some ideas of things to go through here.
We're gonna talk a little bit about, wide receivers having big camps
and, what that looks like.

(00:31):
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
A little Byron Murphy, a little bit of An- Anthony Bradford, and we'll do it
without, disparaging him for a change.
Yes.

Clinton (00:38):
I think

Adam (00:38):
so.
also too with the wide receivers having big camps, should we be
concerned about any of the DB play?
We're gonna talk a little bit about Jalen Milroe and some of
the reports we've heard about him.
And not that we have anything new on the Robbie Oots front, but it's
not something I've talked about.
So those are all topics we're gonna get into.
Clinton, you did an awesome job curating all this.

(00:59):
Man, lots of news, lots of action happening in training camp.

Clinton (01:03):
Tons of action.
We got action early here as we got Dogzilla Monster saying, "The
biggest storyline so far, D-Hall's big truck," and of course the
short shorts, which we all love.
What's up, Dogzilla?
Good seeing you there.
But yes, it says four biggest camp stories.
We talked about it.
Scratch that.
We're gonna go…
What is that?
I'm not sure what the percentages are.
Five, six,

Adam (01:21):
seven.
I don't know.
Four, yeah.
Till we're done talking about big stories.

Clinton (01:24):
Yeah.
It'll be more.
Big, big stories, big humans, big movements, and we had a lot happening.
Plus we had the, the scrimmage, the, the Fan Fest, and that just added
some, some ideas to the fire as well.
But you ran that down then perfectly.
Adam, I really wanna always remind people, of course, first and foremost,
if you're out there, like and subscribe.
That's great.
We love you.
Please do the thing.
But Adam, this entire off-season, I'm pretty sure the Ram…

(01:47):
Did the Rams win a Super Bowl?
because the entire off-season I thought it was the Rams
that maybe won the Super Bowl, 'cause it's just so Ram-centric.
Am I wrong?
Is that not what happened?

Adam (01:56):
Oh, hadn't you heard?
They, they bought a Super Bowl already.
It's done.
Like, they won.
Oh, oh, it's done.
It's over.
I don't even know why we're doing training camp at this point.
Oh.

Clinton (02:03):
Oh, okay.

Adam (02:03):
Like, we should just forfeit the rest of the games going
forward- Oh … is what I heard, even though that, we're world champs.

Clinton (02:09):
Yeah, okay.
So- We're, we're the

Adam (02:10):
champions.

Clinton (02:10):
Right.
Yeah.
Okay.
Thank you for reminding me, 'cause I, I've- Yeah … I saw this image back on,
you know, Twitter and then the, the, the internet interwebs of the s- the
ring we have that says we won the Super Bowl last, this- Right … last year, and
we're the current Super Bowl champions.
So just wanna remind folks that we are, of course, the champions, not the stupid
Rams, and I just don't care what they do.
We don't play them till Christmas.

(02:31):
I care what they do, but we're gonna beat them anyway, and we'll
get into some of those reasons, I think even why in this episode.
We do have some news and notes to get through that will not be the
six topics you teased at the top, so hang around for all six of those.
But a couple things that I thought were at least interesting going from
left to right on screen, Adam, first thing is Greg Bell's reporting that
Nick Emmanwori is still about four weeks out.

(02:53):
And if I'm doing some fast math, that really puts week one, week two kinda
in jeopardy if he's four weeks out.
How you feeling about the newest news there?

Adam (03:02):
just be here week eight Like, that's all I care.
Like, just be here by week eight and we're good to go.
- Week

Clinton (03:09):
eight?
Look, we- That's, that's pretty far, no.

Adam (03:10):
I know it's pretty far.
Yeah.
That's how loaded this team is.
That's how many games they can win going into week eight.
We want him for the back half at the very least and rolling into the playoffs.
Now, could he be here much sooner?
Absolutely.
Would that be perfect?
Yes.
Let's do that, please.
But there is zero concern on my part.
They will get Nick Emmanwori back when it's time for him to be back,

(03:31):
when he's healthy, and he will be a demon on the field once again, so.

Clinton (03:35):
great.
Okay.

Adam (03:36):
yeah.
I- It's one of those things where, look, there's other players that they
can use in that kind of nickel, do everything position, whether that's Spoon
or we're talking a lot of De'Anthony Bell being used in that role here in camp.
there's options for Mike McDonald, and since he's a, a bonafide genius,
I'm pretty sure that we'll be fine.

Clinton (03:57):
All right.
We'll talk more about that when we do talk about the DB room and
the corners, et cetera, et cetera.
And look, I want, I want Spoon back way…
well, not Spoon.
I want even Emmanwori back way, way sooner.
Not saying you don't, I know you do, but I'm not willing
to wait, wait till week eight.
I'm just not gonna do it.
On the right-hand side we got J- some Jadarian Dave, Jadarian Price updates.
Basically, no, seems like no big deal.

(04:18):
Some soreness.
You know, Mike Mac actually kinda like laughed it off a bit.
He kinda made a li- light joke about it in the presser after the, the
fanfare day there, and I don't think it's something you'd be joking about,
Adam, if it were any more serious.
But from Mike's lips, he's basically saying this is a couple of day
thing, nothing more than that.
Little bit of relief from, from my standpoint.

(04:40):
How about you?

Adam (04:41):
Oh, for sure.
E- 'cause we're all looking at the running back position, and we're
relying on Price with the loss of Kenneth Walker, no doubt about it.
And look, when I heard the first, part of this, you know, leg soreness-
Yeah … it was like, okay, they're not talking about, like, an injury.
We're talking about a rookie who's ramping up his usage throughout his

(05:02):
first NFL training camp, while he was the backup back in college and didn't
even get the full starter reps back then.
yeah, probably he's gonna get a little sore at some
point, maybe need a day or two.
it- that's part of the rookie adjustment to the NFL, and it really
does kinda hit all the guys, and you just manage it smartly, and it sounds

(05:23):
like that's exactly what they're doing.
Mike not worried, me not worried.

Clinton (05:26):
Me not worried either.
I like that.
And we got Rubbles coming in saying, "Bro, I'm telling you, the Rams are overrated.
They're gonna disappoint.
Much hype," and all those things.
Look, I, I hope so.
I hope so.
Mm.
I think, I don't know that they're overrated.
I don't…
You know, they were, they were a good team.
I'm not sure they are over or underrated, but I can tell you the hype is all about
them, and I'm, at this point I'm- I'm rolling over to the it's beyond fine.

(05:51):
I'm actually, I think the Seahawks team, and we'll talk about Byron Murphy
a- a little bit later, I think he is one of those emblematic players that's
probably embracing the fact that even after a Super Bowl, there's, you know,
we as a franchise still not getting the limelight and a player like Murphy,
still not getting the kudos that he deserves while, you know, people

(06:11):
put, put some love onto Jalen Carter.
And frankly, from my point of view, he's a better player than
Carter, but we'll get to that.
And we got Shane also, Shane Turner Acoustic coming in, he said, with a 2.99
Australian super chat saying, "Any word on who would be outside,
with, if Spoon is playing nickel?"
They got a couple different options, you know, there.
It, it could be Nehemiah Pritchett.

(06:32):
you know, there's- there's a few younger players there as well.
I- I'm going to butcher the name until I get it right, Adam, the- the DB
with the hard to pronounce last name.
It's- it's still not crisp in my brain, so-

Adam (06:45):
Nope

… Clinton (06:45):
yeah, him.
I think we all know who that is.
I- Oga-

Adam (06:48):
Oganaga-bee?

Clinton (06:49):
Yeah

Adam (06:49):
Or, yeah.
Thank you, Chris.
We'll- we'll get it, man.
We'll put some respect- Yeah … on that man's name

Clinton (06:53):
at some point here.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Exactly, yeah.
We're- we're not trying to be like that, it's just, it's just I- I haven't
worked it into my brain just yet.
But I think those are the two options, Shane.
maybe there's some others there.
We did see a report just before we got on that, that Terion Arnold,
the, the kind of the Detroit high round pick, is coming in for a visit.
He really washed out with the Lions really rather quickly.

(07:14):
He's coming to camp and, I don't know about you, Adam, but a Mike
McDonald maybe rehab on a high, high talented DB that kinda just flamed
out maybe in the wrong situation.
I, at- at least I'm intrigued.
Color me intrigued on something like that.

Adam (07:29):
Well, he ought to be because of the history that the Seahawks
have shown under John Schneider's leadership and when Pete was here,
and now with Mike McDonald here.
They've gotten a lot out of corners.
I mean, Josh Jobe, we're not talking about Josh Jobe, right?
We're like, "Oh, we got one of the spots locked down."

Clinton (07:44):
Correct.

Adam (07:44):
Yeah.
Josh Jobe was a dude that the Eagles let go.
He was at the bottom of their depth chart, and now he is a full-time starter
for the Seahawks and a damn good player.
You, you think about Kendricks last year and what they did with him.
They…
Mike McDonald is able to develop these guys and put
them in position to look good.
Not to mention, how do you make a back end of a defense look better

(08:06):
just almost instantaneously, Clinton?

Clinton (08:07):
well, you put pressure on the quarterback-
Yeah … and you stop the run.
Yeah, yeah.

Adam (08:11):
Yeah, you have badasses up front on the D-line that- Yep …
give, generate a lot of pressure and make things really difficult.
And then if you have somebody who's a legitimate top one schemer in this league
when it comes to defense, putting all those guys in the right position, it sure
does allow you to get the most out of guys that maybe struggled at some other point.
And you're talking about Terryán Arnold a little bit.

(08:33):
Yeah.
And look, one of the things Mike's super famous for is his ability to take
something super complicated, distill it down into something that players
are able to understand, and I heard DeMarcus Lawrence talking about how
there's basically, for one play call, 10 plays could be run out of that, right?
Mm-hmm.
But yet it's clear, it's simple, it's something they can do.
And that's what makes these guys look like they have 12 dudes on the field.

(08:56):
Look, you bring in somebody like Terry Ara- Arnold, maybe the,…
Let's see, who would it have been?
It would've been, not Terry Glenn.
It was the, the c- current coach of the Jets, the former, cornerback,-

Clinton (09:07):
Aaron Glenn?

Adam (09:08):
Aaron Glenn, not Terry Glenn.
Yeah.
Aaron Glenn.
maybe his defense wasn't explained well.
Maybe it was too complicated for Terryán Arnold.
This could be a spot where he comes in and we get the best
version of him, whatever that is.
Maybe that's backup level, maybe that's starter level.
Maybe that's not even on the 53, maybe that's part of the ready squad.
Hard telling, not knowing at this point, but- Worth a flyer.

Clinton (09:30):
Yeah, I think so too.
We'll s- we'll see.
You know, it, there's a little bit of character concerns,
and that's why he's available.
Beyond also some, the play wasn't…
Look, we all know in the NFL, like, if there are, quote-unquote, "character
concerns," but you're amazing at your job, you don't lose your job in the NFL.
You might, you might, you know, have to go into, what's that thing they made
Puka go do that's not actually rehab?
What's that, whatever they call that thing, right?

(09:52):
So that thing

Adam (09:52):
people- fake rehab.

Clinton (09:53):
Yeah, fake rehab.
There you go.
Yeah.
So they throw you into fake rehab nowadays and say, "Oh, yeah, he's,
he's, getting the help he needs."
if you're really great at football, you find your way on the field.
That's just the facts of life.
but maybe the reclamation project.
We'll see.
We probably spent two minutes too long on Terry and Arnold, seeing
as he's coming in for a visit.
We will keep you posted.
I did have this information too, because not only…

(10:15):
I, I'll gonna change the slide in a second for those on YouTube, and for those
listening on audio, we are gonna play a game this week versus the Dallas Cowboys.
It's pregame, you know, pregame, preseason Game 1.
But, but Adam, I start to look ahead, and I don't take joy in doing
this, but I- Hmm … but it's part of just kind of reporting what's
happening across different camps.
what's on screen here is a key player for week three, week six, and week eight.

(10:40):
It's kinda funny you flagged week eight for Nick Emmanwori 'cause we'll talk
about that guy on the right-hand side, you know, on this slide last.
But first and foremost, week three, Laremy Tunsil tore his triceps.
He's out for, you know- The year
maybe the whole year.
Yeah.
He's out for significant portions.
They have problems keeping Jayden Daniels upright to begin with.

(11:01):
They just lost their tackle they brought in.
Bad news bears for this Commanders team, and that's week three, very, very early.
Benefit for Seattle, and you feel for Tunsil and the Commanders fans.

Adam (11:11):
Oh, for sure, and you hit it right on the head with the Commanders
having a hard time keeping Jayden Daniels from taking those big hits-

Clinton (11:18):
Yeah

… Adam (11:18):
and having those big injuries, and, you know, we saw the
Seahawks, injure him, the last time that we played, right?
With the- Mm-hmm … elbow, so-

Clinton (11:26):
Yeah.

Adam (11:26):
and I'm a big Jayden Daniels guy.
You should be.
I- he was my number one, quarterback in that draft class coming in.
love his game, love what he can do.
It'll probably help that they won't have, Kingsbury there and running
his rinky-dink Mickey Mouse,- … offense, that would get him killed.
But Tunsil's- Yeah … a huge loss, man, a huge loss.
And, get well to him- Yeah … no doubt about it, and we'll see what

(11:50):
happens for the poor Commanders there.

Clinton (11:52):
Yeah, really good player.
He's b- been around a long time now, and, hope he heals as quick as he can.
Benefit for our Seahawks come week three, and then there's a couple just to look at.
Jalen Waddell is still limping.
He's, he's got an injury, and so they're saying it could be multiple week.
He might be back pretty darn soon, so I'm not gonna put too much emphasis on
this one right now, but Waddell was a big off-season get for the Broncos, who really

(12:16):
need a little bit more additional help.
I see you waving there.
the, the papers say, the Pravda says- Hmm
a big, a big off-season get.
But Waddell might be out.
I think even potentially more significant, maybe a better player,
Luther Burden of the Chicago Bears, he tweaks a groin just yesterday, and
he was having, from all reports, a sensational, camp, where it's like

(12:40):
this dude is, like on the cusp.
And I think he showed a lot last year.
Week eight's halfway through the year.
it's a groin.
They can be very, very tricky, but you got two weapons here that now we gotta keep
on the radar because they might not be…
Maybe they're in, but maybe not 100%, like, running the
way these guys intend to run.

Adam (13:01):
Well, let's hope for Luther's sake the groin is
less tricky than more tricky.
that's for sure.
And as you put it, early returns for Luther Burden, they looked promising,
and so that is a blow for them.
look,- Jaylen Waddle a big addition for the Broncos.
I mean- They sure

Clinton (13:18):
paid, they sure paid like it was.
They paid heavy for that.

Adam (13:21):
Him and Tee Higgins can go to their own little island of the most-
overrated number twos in the entire freaking league.
Like, I, I just, wake me when you've done something that actually matters,
like for real, with Jaylen Waddle.
- Look, y- Yeah … once Tyreek Hill was toast down there in Miami,
what happened to that offense?

Clinton (13:41):
Well, yeah, it, it went, the whole thing went sideways, so for sure.
Yeah.
So, yeah, and Weld- Waddell had some nice years with, with
Hill as a nice complementary too.
but I also thought the Broncos overpaid when they went and got
him this off season too, so I, I wasn't super high on that.
And his thing is speed and, you know, just getting open, kinda u- quickness

(14:02):
and, and some good amount of speed.
And, and if he's, if he's dinged, if he's not 100% operational, I'm not
sure he's, he's all that effective.
So again, something to watch with, with these upcoming opponents.
And also Broncos, one of the tougher opponents, and I think the Bears will be
one of the better teams we face this year as well, certainly an ascending team.

(14:23):
And of course you don't know how the season's gonna go, but
I think, Adam, that takes us…
Yeah.
Oh, one more reminder that we're- Okay … Super Bowl champions.
We're gonna take it back over here to the full screen.
So we got our, those are the news and notes.
We want you liking, we want you subscribing, all those things are
to keep the comments pouring in.
We appreciate it.
But we teased six topics at the beginning.
Adam, where would you like to begin?

Adam (14:45):
let's get through wide receivers first.

Clinton (14:47):
Get through.
I, the, the language, please, Adam, the language.
Yeah.
Get through.
Yeah.
All right.

Adam (14:52):
So- I chose the words on,- … very specifically.
I did.

Clinton (14:55):
I know you do.
All right.
So-

Adam (14:57):
Yeah

… Clinton (14:57):
so the way I, I'll frame it real quick from my perspective.
Yeah.
My perspective was last year in, camp, you heard a lot of the
Seahawks are getting no separation.
We brought in Horton, he was just a, yeah, just a rookie fifth rounder, and the
Seahawks are having a hard time getting separation throughout camp last year.

(15:18):
Okay?
JSN then goes and wins Offensive Player of the Year.
He got some separation during the season.
but this year it's almost like flip the script, where it's, there is a
lot of open wide receivers and certain players that we'll talk about just,
maybe having a really strong camp.
So how are you feeling about this wide receiver room, and is the buzz

(15:40):
worthy, I think is maybe the question.

Adam (15:43):
Wide receiver room is loaded, and it's funny because the
buzz isn't around the guys that make this bonafide loaded, right?
Like-

Clinton (15:51):
Yeah

… Adam (15:52):
the buzz isn't around JSN, who's- Right,

Clinton (15:54):
right

… Adam (15:55):
the best receiver in football and the reigning Offensive Player of the Year.
The buzz isn't around Rasheed Shaheed who just got paid and was
a big addition on special teams and had some moments offensively, and
seems to be really clicking with Sam Darnold here through training camp.
We're getting a little buzz on Shaheed, like, to be fair.
Right?
Little.
Tory Horton- Yeah … coming in and doing some good stuff coming back

(16:15):
from injury a- and looking good.
And, you know, even Cooper Kupp having a nice training camp to this point.
But the buzz, Clinton, is about some of the guys closer to the
back end of the roster- Mm-hmm
or potentially towards the back end of the roster.
And that's interesting because look, this isn't an easy defense to go up against,

(16:37):
but you've got a damn good quarterback who is comfortable in a system with
guys that he feels comfortable throwing to, and so you're gonna get a lot of
completions and that sort of thing.
Also too, just remember these guys towards the back of the roster that we're gonna
talk about here, whether that's Foster or Henderson- Yeah … those would
be the two that come to mind, they're going up against mainly the threes

(16:59):
and the fours and maybe even guys that aren't gonna be with this team when
training camp is all said and done.
So is it a positive thing that you're hearing good things about these players?
Yes.
Do I believe it until I see him at least suited up in preseason?
No.
A- and that's- … kinda like with anything that comes out of training camp.
We- I've been doing this for 13 years now, Clinton, and there's years I've been

(17:22):
just bamboozled by the, you know, hype during the off-season and training camp.
And, you know, I know enough these days to be like, "Cool news.
We'll see."

Clinton (17:32):
Yeah.
I think the, it's e- it's very easy to get excited, especially in
training camp, about wide receivers.
And I guess the, the juxtaposition of last year where it's like we can't
get separation, to like, oh, this looks a l- heck of a lot smoother.
bar, kinda sans the actual scrimmage from yesterday, which was more of
a, a defensive day it sounded like, versus the offense really humming.

(17:53):
But you ment- you mentioned Foster, you mentioned Henderson.
Cody White still, still doing, still doing really well out there.
Mm-hmm.
these are dudes, like with Foster, I, I think he's name, I
think you pronounce his name Mon- Montaria, Montar- Mon- Montario?
That

Adam (18:05):
feels right.

Clinton (18:06):
Yeah, I think it's Montario, I believe, right?
Foster Jr.
and if I have that wrong, please correct.
And every time you turn on Twitter or something, even, even, you
know, they're not talking about him too, too much, publicly, but
everybody else who's watching it's gonna be like, "This guy's, this
guy's every day making huge plays."
It is a little excite- e- e- easy to get excited about wide receivers

(18:28):
when it's not full go, you know?
Yeah.
And the defen- the DBs can't do everything that they're actually gonna do out there.
And if a quarterback lays out a hospital ball and a guy plucks it
out of the air, but it's like, you know, in the game, a safety's gonna
take that guy's head off, right?
And it's actually not a ball that you, you wanna throw.
Not saying that's what's happening, but that's the kinda stuff you get in training

(18:50):
camp, just because you're not, you know, taking dudes' heads off at that point.
it is exciting.
It is, it's easy to get excited about that crew.
I do wanna pivot back to the buzz, and you know I'm gonna
go back there for Cooper Kupp.
Mm.
'Cause it's a little bit about, hey, he really looks youthful this y- Okay
… more youthful this year than last year.
Sure.
Like, quicker.

(19:11):
Like, things of…
So, all the things we love about the Coach Kupp and all that jazz, cool, cool, cool.
But I'm kind of excited to hear, hey, he just looks like he, he
regained a year or two in terms of his quickness, which is part of- Mm
his game.
I know you're the biggest Cooper Kupp fan, but how's that news
hit you compared to last year?

Adam (19:31):
Five pounds heavier, faster than ever, blah, blah, blah.
That's how that news hits me.
Is Cooper Kupp young or old?

Clinton (19:39):
well relatively- For football … he's older,
but he's in great shape Okay.
These dude, these dudes stay in remarkable

Adam (19:45):
shape nowadays Yeah, it doesn't come back, Clinton.
It doesn't come back.
The quick ti- twitch stuff does not come back.
So really what the explanation is, is this, because Kupp's biggest asset by far,
and it was on full display in Hard Knocks, and it was on full display last year with
the way that he unlocked JSN and helped Tory Horton develop and how he's worked
with Shaheed over the off season here.

(20:07):
It's his brain.
That is the number one thing that really sets him apart from almost anybody else
who's playing the position these days.
So one more year in this system, in that sort of famil- familiarity, he's gonna
look faster because he processes that much more quickly and is able to get his body

(20:30):
moving that direction a little faster.
Is he faster?
There's a 0% chance he's faster this year.

Clinton (20:35):
Okay.
All right.
Well,

Adam (20:36):
we're gonna- Like, you don't get older and get faster.

Clinton (20:38):
Well, A- You don't … Amy was there You don't.
It's not- A- Amy's on screen.
She was there.
Sure.
We, we love Amy.
She says, "Ku- Kupp's"- I love Amy Kean … serious- I know you do.
Kupp seriously looks way faster than last year.
Now- Do not believe this … is it pos- is it possible that, yes, he
was healthy last year, but maybe he wasn't 100% up to his health standards
and we just didn't know about it?

(20:59):
That's a possibility.
Yeah.
Right?
I mean-

Adam (21:02):
Y- yeah, sure.
A- again, I just, when you have receivers that, we can all agree that
Kupp isn't Triple Crown Kupp, right?
Like where,

Clinton (21:12):
where

Adam (21:12):
he was-

Clinton (21:12):
Right.
Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.
Yeah.
We can't- I don't wanna be hyperbolic about it.
I- Yeah,

Adam (21:15):
exactly

… Clinton (21:15):
I'm licking on the edges, looking around the edges a bit, and
really for me, the question and debate is where do all these footballs go?
Like that, that's- Mm-hmm … whether Kupp is a smidgen faster or not,
he's just, he's more successful in an offense with year two.
Mm-hmm.
You know, if we're playing the more likely game, maybe that's more-
Yeah … likely and totally cool.
But where are these footballs going with Horton doing what he's doing, with, with

(21:38):
the, the bench we have- Yeah … with Arroyo having a very nice camp, A.J.
Barnes- Yeah … not, not even sniffing the field just yet, but we know he's,
he's due back, and he'll be on time.
And we have a, a, a, a, a, a head, not, not head coach, offense OC that
likes to get the ball in the hands of, of running backs, clearly, right?

(21:58):
So- Yeah … or le- at least coming from a system that did a lot of that.
I'm just like, "Where, where are all these footballs gonna go?"
Because I don't think there's enough to go around with the depth we have.
So that's really- Yeah … where for me that I think is more interesting than
the grading of Kupp's, y- m- maybe getting a little better on the edges.

Adam (22:18):
Yeah.
Look, that's kind of why I'm, not losing my mind about, you know, Foster
and Henderson and the cool stuff that they've been doing through training camp
because whose minutes are they taking?
Like I- it's hard to find them, hard to find those snaps that they would take and
those balls that they would catch outside of, you know, your top three or four guys.

(22:38):
I did wanna pull up here a, a comment from our good buddy Michael Knight.
Mm-hmm.
"Adam, it's ridiculous to say you don't get faster, man.
If you had nagging injuries last season and they are, and they are gone now."
Cooper Kupp's had nagging injuries for the last four years.
Ag- You don't magically become physically better as a whole as you age in the NFL.

(23:04):
It's not, this isn't quarterback, right?
Like, where Tom Brady blew the lid off of, okay, you can get
old and be super productive.
This is receiver.
So when I was asking you earlier, he's not triple, Triple Crown Cooper Kupp, right?
No,

Clinton (23:17):
he's not.

Adam (23:17):
No.
Like, okay.
I mean- So, like, we've seen the peak, we've seen where it's been,
and, you know, the production has steadily been in decline.
A little bit of a bounce-back last year because he did manage to stay
healthy, not being as much of a focal point of the offense as he
was when he was with the Rams.
Now, with that said, I remember peak DeAndre Hopkins, and then when D-Hop

(23:38):
goes to Tennessee, was he still D-Hop?
No.
Like, I remember Julio Jones when he left and, like, you know, goes to Tennessee.
He didn't magically get faster and find it again.
Mike Evans isn't gonna magically find the fountain of youth next
to the substation- No he won't.
No he won't … and become faster and more durable and all that.
Cooper Kupp is an exceptional human.
Cooper Kupp is an exceptional wide receiver, and has had an exceptional

(24:01):
career, and has been an absolute godsend in terms of the knowledge and
mentality that he has brought to this team, and is really a big reason why
we are current Super Bowl champions.
He is on the other side of the hill.
Like, it just is what it is.
Like, even Jerry Rice couldn't outrun Father Time.
I'm quite certain Cooper can't either.

Clinton (24:23):
Well, you got two legends there, wide receiver legend- legends for
the Seahawks, Jerry Rice and Cooper Kupp.
So, and you know, Rice, that year with Dilfer, he had a nice…
He actually had a nice year.
A, he had pr- good production, specifically for his age.
He was really old at that point, and he had some nice production.
And I think that's really what I'm after, is like, can he be even
more impactful, even if, if it's on the edges, than last year?

(24:46):
And Adam, I think your point of, hey, what he's really bringing is the fact that he's
literally a coach on the field and in, and in the, the entire team sees him that way.
cool.
You know, very- Yeah … it worked, it worked last year, right?
And, and that kind of thing is gonna keep marinating.
I like the idea that maybe he's getting sharper, and therefore

(25:06):
things might be picking up.
But I also do believe that if he had the nagging injuries, maybe he did have some,
and maybe he's just a little bit quicker.
Maybe, maybe.
Again, we're talking about edges here.
Sure.
It is, it is pre-season.
Hey, I got you to say sure.
I'll take it.
All right, so but that's the wide receivers.
It's deep, it is aplenty, and there are not enough footballs to go around, and a

(25:26):
guy like Foster, who is just absolutely kicking butt so far, we'll see
what happens when there's games on.
I'm sure he'll get a lot of play.
We'll see.
Can the Seahawks sneak a guy like that to the practice squad if he's,
if he has a, a monster pre-season?
Now, usually in the, the NFL, most often, unless you're Drake Thomas and
we, we snag him, most often you get all bent, or at least I do, I get all bent

(25:51):
out of shape and, "Oh my God, is this guy gonna get to the practice squad?"
And like nine times out of 10, or maybe, maybe even more, Adam, they do.
They, they get to the practice squad somehow, and we just kinda keep them for
another year of learning inside a system in an organization that clearly treats
its players with a lot of priority.

Adam (26:08):
Oh, for sure.
And look, this year it might be a little tougher to sneak guys to the practice
squad, considering that we are the reigning Super Bowl champions, and, you
know, other teams like to pick off some guys that have been around that program
and can maybe bring a little bit of that special sauce to their organization.

Clinton (26:25):
Yeah.
Awesome.
All right.
So that's wide receivers.
We got five more topics.
we could go to DBs and, and look at the flip side of that, or save that.
Where do you wanna go next?
You're, you're bored, dude.

Adam (26:35):
yeah.
Let's, w- let's go to DBs because it kinda goes hand in glove with,
- Yeah … the excellent, receiver play that we've seen so far.

Clinton (26:43):
Yeah.
So we've seen great receiver play and I think, again, compared, just compared
to last year and what Mike McDonald's known for, and we get our glimpses
into hard knocks and we can listen to the same pundits that others listen
to that have access, and the ESPNs of the world, et cetera, et cetera.
The DB room, specifically the corners, look a little bit,

(27:04):
certainly less deep than last year.
So- Yeah … level of concern, is it a major concern for you at this point?
And if, and is, is it a sign if we're bringing in Atarian Arnold for a
visit, do you think there's a little bit, a little bit of smoke here?
And no, I'm not trying to make a smoke joke with Spokane
going on, but I- Not a joke.
But is there, is there a little to be concerned about because of these reports?

Adam (27:28):
Spokane smoke jokes are too soon?
Okay.
Just, I'm glad to know.
I, I'm glad

Clinton (27:32):
to know.
I just don't want, you know, don't want anybody thinking I'm making a joke
about Spokane, 'cause that ain't cool.

Adam (27:36):
Oh, gosh, no.
No, we all, you know, look at those folks over there
and, and wish for the best.
You know- Yes … we've got some wildfires raging right outside,
our place up here in the mountains.
So, you know, it's a little bit everywhere.
We'll all get through it, no doubt.
But the smoke that is coming from the VMac regarding the DBs- On a scale of
one to 10, I give this about a four.

(27:57):
I mean- That's

Clinton (27:58):
not, that's not nothing, though.
That's,

Adam (27:59):
that- It's not nothing

… Clinton (28:00):
right.

Adam (28:01):
But also, too, I mean, our top two corners are Spoon
and Jobe, and they can play Spoon outside, and w- that'd be just fine.
I, even though I said, you know, eh, as long as- Right … Emmanwori's back by
week eight, like, we're fine, he's likely back before then, so that's gonna be fine.
De'Anthony Bell's been having a nice camp, much to your
delight, I'm sure, which is awesome.

Clinton (28:23):
Yeah.

Adam (28:23):
a- and also, too, you've heard good things about
Fuller, being out there.
Mm-hmm.
You know, the late round draft pick or the, was he late

Clinton (28:31):
round draft pick or- I think it was seventh round, Andre Fuller
Yeah P- pretty sure seventh round Yeah,

Adam (28:32):
undrafted, one of the two, but he's had himself a nice camp.
And then, it's, it feels like Neal's supposed to be back
real quick or, or is- I think

Clinton (28:40):
soon.
Yeah.

Adam (28:41):
Yeah.
So, you know, there's answers there, and then also-

Clinton (28:44):
Well, may- there's s- potential answers there.
We don't know yet, right?
So in fairness, we don't.
There's spins, there's spins there with some talent.

Adam (28:53):
Absolutely, and it's, we're not trying to fill three
out of the four DB spots.
We're trying to fill third corner.

Clinton (28:58):
But we do play third corners a lot, and, and if Emmanwori-
Yeah … is out for a bit and they have to do the things where it's, you
know, Spoon playing- Yeah … playing nickel, et cetera, et cetera, you
know, we play a lot of three, DBs.
We're, we're nickel a ton, and we're a dime some.
And, you know, so it's, maybe it's some early season pressure.
And I was thinking just today about this a little bit, you know, maybe

(29:20):
it's a, just a little bit of the cross you also bear when you have a season
that goes as long as our season went.
Yeah.
You know, so you have a player like Emmanwori getting a surgery y- quite
a bit later than, than they would have.
Now, you just take that and say, "Well, yeah, that's how it goes in the NFL."
but it really does feel like Nick Emmanwori is, is more than, I mean,

(29:41):
he's only a r- rookie last year, but somehow such a keystone to allowing
McDonald to do what he wants to go do.
And so that depth becomes, at, at DB, becomes, it's, it's under the
microscope right away with the, with the way the wide receivers are performing,
and really the whole pass catching unit is performing so far in the pre-season.

(30:03):
So I'm not sure that there's a…
I don't look at it right now and say, hey, I don't have, like, a lot of
comfort, I guess, Adam, right now, if it's like, hey, if, if it's Pritchett
starting as the third CB that, that I'm like, "Okay, y- we're locked in.
We're fine," and he, and he won't get picked on.
at least a little bit, and I think he's progressing.

(30:24):
I think year two to year one was much better, but still maybe not- knocking
socks off, I guess, is the way to say it.

Adam (30:31):
Well, if Pritchett's been able to stay with the team and stay
on the roster being a later round draft pick, wasn't he a sixth?

Clinton (30:38):
Well, it was the five and six, right?
'Cause they

Adam (30:40):
cut the- Yeah, the two kids from the same school.
Yeah.

Clinton (30:41):
Yeah, from Auburn, 'cause they cut the- Yeah … the other one, he
went to the Patriots for a bit last year.
And then Pritchett stuck- Right … and w- and even in the first year it was
like, ooh, is he gonna make the roster?
And then he did, but to his credit, which is your point, now he's- Yeah … two
years into making the roster, and he made some big plays last year.
So,-

Adam (31:00):
Mm-hmm

… Clinton (31:00):
yeah.
So-

Adam (31:01):
And two years into being acclimated to Mike McDonald's system,
and the rest of the players around him.
And let us not forget, too, there's other ways that they could go to
try to alleviate this extra corner situation that is, to be honest,
the weakest spot or the biggest question mark on the entire roster- Mm
for the Seahawks.

(31:22):
No doubt about it.
That's why we're talking about it.
But maybe they run a bunch more three safety stuff with Okara and Bud Clark.
Like, that, that's in range as well, and he's such a versatile piece and
a, a dog that can play down by the line of scrimmage and is a ball hawk
as well, and maybe play the back end.
Like, yeah, exactly, to, yeah, to our…

(31:43):
Let's see, I, I always forget, because it's not Andrea- It's, I always forget
who, who's attached to that account.

Clinton (31:50):
Me too, and I always feel bad.
Sorry, I'm not great with names.
I, I often feel bad.
Ah, I'm the worst.
But yeah, just please put your name, your first name in there, not Andrea's husband.
well the Bud- But- The Bud Clark piece- Good point … is interesting
too because- Yeah … yeah, good point.
But the Bud Clark piece, you know, Mike, McDonald- clearly called
him out a little bit at the presser after, after the, the scrimmage,

(32:11):
and it was just simply, it really sounds like Bud's not there yet.
Like, he is, he, right th- right now, right now, so it's still August, but right
now he is not sniffing NFL time right now.
He's, he's competing for a backup spot, and it's not very clear if
he'll be the backup safety right now.
So, but there's a lot of time to go, including real football games, where,

(32:32):
hey, some dudes, I think it's Gruden or others that talk about this, or you
might remember, the coach, I'm sure multiple coaches do, but some dudes,
when the lights turn on, it, it, the, the lights at the, physical lights
turn on on the field, the lights turn on upstairs and things start to click.
We might be talking in a couple days, watching the Cowboys game, be
like, "Oh my gosh, Clark had a sack and an interception," or something,

(32:55):
you know, something radical like that where he pops off the field.
That would not, it would not shock me if that's the case, Adam.

Adam (33:02):
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, there's a reason why he was drafted where he was drafted.
He's a talented player, and, you know, we are as a society so wired for
instant success or instant failure.
Right.
And, you know, if it's not that, then it's no good.
And, yeah, maybe it takes a, a, a minute for Bud Clark.

(33:23):
Maybe we don't even see the best of Bud Clark till year three.
Still makes it a great draft pick, y- you know?
Mm-hmm.
And I'm just saying that there's bodies, there's talent, there's different ways
that a mastermind like Mike McDonald can work around the idea of having one
of your corners be a little weaker than it was last year, potentially, because

(33:43):
let us not forget, it's not like they're replacing The perfect corner who never
made massive mistakes in huge moments.

Clinton (33:51):
That's true.
Right?
That's…
Look, Tariq Woolen, very good cover corner, man-to-man corner most
times, but then he'd have the, he had egregious mistakes which, which,
caused a lot of consternation, right?
A- and he…
You gotta remember too, the NFL, of all the teams, gave him a one-year,
$15 million deal, where, where this guy, talent-wise, looked like he'd be,

(34:13):
be rolling into a second contract for multiple years at a pr- at, I would
say, maybe not double, but somewhere into the 20s for his talent level,
which was met with, you know, just some, some gaffes on the field.
And we do have, Josh Tehuman who's on screen here saying, "A.J.
Finley was great."
Oh.
Josh was out there recently with, a slew of Seahawks pundits, and he, and

(34:37):
Josh is gonna be on the show, we think Wednesday, to come on and tell us all
about what he saw out at Fan Fest and his, his, his training camp visit, so we're
excited to have him out there as well.
Josh, interesting to hear A.J.
Finley was great.
I heard the interception he got was, like, a really bad ball that
should never be thrown type thing.
So I just wonder if it's, like, more than just a ball that

(34:57):
shouldn't have been thrown.
Cool you made a play, very cool, but was there more to the A.J.
Finley being great than making a pick that the ball should not have been thrown?
So, but Adam, I do wanna segue.
You said something about a guy getting, you know, maybe even better in year three.
I'd like to talk about a guy that might be ascending into year four.
You probably know who I'm talking about, 'cause he's a big, literally,

(35:20):
physically, a very big human

Adam (35:23):
The, yeah, I mean, you, this is, this is year
three for Murphy though, right?
Not year four

Clinton (35:27):
Oh, no, I was going, I was going across the line.

Adam (35:30):
You're going across the line?
I was- Are you going for, for, for Big Anthony in a

Clinton (35:34):
contract year?
I, I was talking about Bradford.
We're talking about…
Yeah, but we could…
Right, that's how good and deep and young this team is.
It is.
We could…
And we are gonna talk about Murph in a second, but I wanted to go across the
line and go to the offensive side of the ball and say, Anthony Bradford, I will say
it quickly as I can and toss it to you.
Look, we all know the gaffes, talking, speaking of gaffes, we see them on

(35:55):
Twitter also, and he misses his block.
He's turned around.
He stops during a play sometimes, and then he plays, as we start to run
the ball really, really well down the line, plays pretty darn clean and just
gets better and better and better into year three, helps us win a Super Bowl.
Year three was better than year two.
Year two was better than year one.
And if you're listening to, again, the pundits that are, that are out there

(36:17):
watching with their eyes, they're saying, "Hey, there are days out there
and weeks where Bradford looks like the most capable lineman out there with
a unit that's together for year two."
Adam, am I, am I bullish on Anthony Bradford?
'Cause I think I'm blushing th- about it, man.
I think I might be bullish.
What do you think?

Adam (36:38):
You know, it's interesting because I think this happens in all
facets of life, where the pendulum swings one way so dramatic that…
I knew it was Nick, God damn it.
I, it took me- For,

Clinton (36:50):
for our audio listeners, we just found out that it's Nick- Yeah
o- on, on YouTube.
There's Nick.

Adam (36:54):
For, i- yeah Thank you.
Thank you … for, and Andrew Springer's husband's account there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
all right, so anyways, the pendulum does seem to swing,
really hard when things kind of go to a more extreme end of things.
And last year, I think that all of us can agree, and it's not trying to dump
on a Super Bowl championship player in right guard Anthony Bradford, but he

(37:14):
was overall the most inconsistent and the weakest link of the offensive line.

Clinton (37:19):
Correct.

Adam (37:19):
And so he got the largest amount of crap.
And then when you're a massive human, the way that he is, that when you do
have a whiff, it looks pretty bad.

Clinton (37:28):
Yeah.

Adam (37:28):
You know, and it's hard to hide, right?
And so the hate had just, like, poured out towards Anthony Bradford, you
know, even through the off-season and the draft and all of that.
Now, I think, I feel as if- the pendulum is almost overcorrecting, you
know, back to the other, other way.

(37:48):
And like, to Brandan's point here in the chat, you know, most capable?
Are we sure?
Yeah.
There we go, Brandan.
Oh, Bradford can elevate to okay and still be the weakest.
Like, exactly.
I think we're overcorrecting a little bit here, and some of the media that,
covered him throughout last season feels a little bit guilty for taking

(38:09):
his name through the mud a little bit more than maybe he deserved.
Now, that doesn't mean that he didn't have bad moments and he was the weakest link.
He was.
Like, he, he, he just was.
And two things can be true at the same time, Clinton.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
He's gotten better each and every single year, and not that it's
always a continual, you know, upward trajectory to awesomeness- Right,

Clinton (38:31):
right

Adam (38:31):
but you should expect that Anthony Bradford, another year in
this system, looks a bit better.
He is clearly the strongest of the linemen from everybody who does
seem to watch him up close in camp.
I know Dave Wyman can't get enough talking about, you know- Mm … Anthony Bradford
throwing people around like rag dolls.
But I think he's always gonna struggle a bit in this system to a

(38:54):
degree, when you're reliant on zone schemes, and being quick and moving
laterally and things like that.
That's gonna be tough for him.
It- Yeah … it's just his body type.
It's always is.
Now, if they get a lot more into power and duo and things like that throughout the
year, that's gonna play to his strengths.
So, he definitely seems to have a stranglehold on the job.

(39:15):
It sounds like Bo Stevens, well, according to Grey Zabel, better than
him when he's come into camp this year.
not seriously pushing for the job.
And Christian, who?
is a, an afterthought.
So-

Clinton (39:28):
Okay.
So the, the U- Yeah … UConn slander for Christian Haynes.
Hey- Yeah … may- hey, look, there's reports out there that Christian
Haynes is having a better camp, right?
So again, we'll see.
We'll see.
Hey, that's, that's all good.
If there's more competition there, more the better.
I think for me, it's simply, I've kinda gotten won over by Bradford's,
like you said, it's not a linear progression, 'cause usually

(39:50):
progress is not linear that way.
But slow and steady bettering, and I also just really appreciate that after
now three years of this, you don't hear the dude yapping off on social
media ever He, he's- No … he's never out there compla- I don't think he

Adam (40:06):
cares.

Clinton (40:07):
I don't think so either.
He's not out there complaining.
Yeah.
He's not out there, like, arguing with people.
He's, whether he's thick-skinned or just is like, it just blocks it
out completely, after three years of it, I, I could at least as a human
be like, "Okay, I appreciate that," that he's just focused on getting
better, and seemingly I think he is.
I like your points about, hey, you know, with Jalen Sundell and Grey Zabel and,

(40:28):
and others like that, and Cross being different types of athletes.
Abe, a very good athlete, but also just a stronger dude himself,
the right side being a little different than the left side.
- Yeah … for sure.
I like the point though that, hey, with what we want to run, Bradford
is likely never going to be the most fleet of foot looking out
there, and that's, but that's okay.
That is absolutely okay.

(40:49):
Again, if you are a, a competent guard in the NFL and you're not drawing lots
of penalties, and you're limiting your mistakes, plus you're on a su- successful
team, and nobody's really talking about you- Yeah … that'd be very nice.
So, so I like the progress for Bradford.
It's good to hear that he's getting a little bit of love in camp this year.
Maybe he just kinda turns into this, this Seahawks darling, 'cause like, look, I

(41:13):
think he's a dude that at the end of it, let's say he has a okay to good year.
Like, okay to good.
Yeah.
And you could go re-sign him, and it's not like, you don't gotta break
the bank and you keep him in a system where it's like, oh, or you do the
James Carpenter thing, or others where you let them go to organizations
and they kept getting better.

Adam (41:30):
Yeah.
That's-

Clinton (41:30):
It's like, did we, did we get him to a point and then say,
"Okay, bye bye," and he's gonna sign an okay contract somewhere else?
Or maybe he earns the right, I guess, looking forward, to get a second contract
with Seattle, which if you rew- rewind the clock 18 months ago, this conversation
I don't think would be happening.

Adam (41:49):
It would sound absurd if you're- … if you had rewound
the clock to 18 months ago.
And with that said, you know, Josh was talking in the comments here
regarding, you know, him getting a second contract and, and all of that.
Now, I'm kinda with him on this.
Look, John said one of the things that he learned the most from after the
first Super Bowl run with the LOB guys is that you just can't keep everyone.

Clinton (42:11):
Right.

Adam (42:12):
And Ken Walker's a great example of this.
Like, really good player.
Is he one of your exceptional heartbeat players of this team?
No?
Okay, then he has to go.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
And you gotta figure out a way to replace him, if you can.
'Cause the sad truth is, is that if Anthony Bradford plays to a mid-ish level,

(42:32):
throughout this year, which is pretty close to where he was last year- Right
like, he wasn't a complete dumpster fire by any stretch.

Clinton (42:38):
Nope.

Adam (42:39):
45% of the teams out there want him.
And you're gonna be outbid.
You're not gonna be able to afford to keep him.
And that's okay.
That's okay.
And I hope Anthony Bradford gets a fricking bag after this year.
Keep getting them checks, brother.
And, I can't wait to see what two-time Super Bowl champion Anthony
Bradford gets on the open market.

Clinton (43:00):
Love it.
Okay, great, great way to close out for him.
We discussed, we, so now we got Murph, and we have, we got three more topics:
Murph, Milroe, or the mystery injury for Ouzts and how that might impact things.
Where do you wanna ta- where do you wanna go?

Adam (43:14):
let's get bummer things out of the way first.
Let, let's- Okay
get the Ouzts thing out of the way, I think we're all still learning to decode
Mike a little bit, even though he's very forthright as a whole, but he doesn't
give away the farm either when he talks.
And the presser when he's talked about initially Ouzts's injury, and
then asked, in the subsequent one any updates, he's just like, "No."

(43:36):
that was discouraging to me.
That sounded like, oh, no, are we talking about another neck thing?
Mm-hmm.
Are we talking about something that's gonna make it so that, you know,
fullback of the future is not Robbie Ouzts?
Like, that- I know … that's, that's my gut feel on it with no
information, anything like that.
But, it stinks because, you know, Fleury with his exposure to Shanahan

(44:03):
for as many years as he has, it seems as if fullback was gonna be a big part
of what he wants to do, the way, similar to the way that Shanahan uses Juszczyk.

Clinton (44:15):
For sure.
I, I agree on the usage, and, like, Ouzts started the season last year, I thought
actually a little, a little rough.
Rough, y- and I…
He was, like, my favorite guy coming in.
I'm like, "I love this guy.
I love the stache.
I love everything."
I did a hype video for the guy, like I'm excited.
Yeah.
I'm excited that we took this tight end convert, and I'll get, get into, into the
athleticism comparison in, in a second.

(44:36):
But I thought last year he kind of was kinda targeting a little bit
awkwardly, on the move, not at, not as smooth as I thought he would be.
Then he got injured, then he came back, and I thought that second time around,
which, oh, by the way, you can get better, especially as a rookie, but the second
time that he got his chances, I was like, "Oh, man, he's markedly better already,"
and this is coming off an injury.

(44:58):
And then he gets dinged again and, and you know, that, that was kind of a, a
sad way for him to end the year, and he's still, still got some, seemingly,
lingering things going on there.
We'll see.
Now, we bring in Brock Lampe, and Brock Lampe's a fullback
that was at Northern Illinois.
So he was playing for Coach Hammock when Coach Hammock was the head coach
there, who's now the running back coach, who's gotten, who's getting

(45:19):
all the love or hate depending on what side you're on for, the,
the, the, Hard Knocks and his- Oh,

Adam (45:25):
is he getting crap for, for that?

Clinton (45:26):
Well, just like s- some, well, some are like, "Man, he's
just out there not really coaching, just like f-bombs everywhere."
And some others are like, "I love this guy.
This is my guy.
I love exactly how he's talking to the running back room."
So it's a little Tale of Two Cities with your perception o- of Coach Hammock.
But they bring in Lampe.
So I, I went to, you know, I went out today and looked
at some of the, metrics.

(45:47):
I was like, "Okay, what are we getting with Brock Lampe?"
In case folks don't know who this dude is yet, he was an, a UDFA
that signed with the Patriots.
Now he signs with the Seahawks, but again, he played under, Coach Hammock
as head coach at Northern Illinois.
But 6.1,
250, real- fast for a 6.1,
250 guy running a 4.62.
But here's the thing, Adam, Ouzts is 6'3", 275, runs a bit slower, but all the

(46:12):
explosives for Ouzts, like the things that I think matter in terms of bench, in
terms of like broad, i- his, his just jumping ability, which is explosiveness,
those things that you're really, that just show, show sheer athleticism at 6'3", 275.
Mm-hmm.
Brock Lampe is very much like an- another Brady Russell.

(46:34):
And I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but I think there's a bit of like
froth around Brock Lampe, and I'm like, okay, maybe, m- maybe, we'll see.
I hope he's awesome.
But, like to pretend that he's the athlete that Ouzts is size-wise
and explosive-wise, the data just says something different.
So wanted to kind of point that out there.

(46:55):
I want Brock Lampe to light it up.
We can light the Lampe against the Cowboys and see it, but I'm not sold just
yet that this dude could replace Ouzts if Ouzts is indeed in- injured for a while.

Adam (47:06):
So you don't love Lampe?
You don't?
Okay.
- Not yet.
Yeah, with, with that said I think anybody who's making a proclamation one way or the
other about what this human can do with this team, I mean, you can make it.
Y- y- you're welcome to do it.
It's a free country.
First Amendment's around for a reason, but you don't know what you're

(47:27):
talking about because you couldn't possibly, 'cause none of us do.
And, so we'll see.
he, he definitely falls into the hard telling, not knowing, category.
And, honestly, he may have better instincts at the position, too, even if
he doesn't have the size that Ouzts has.

(47:47):
I mean, you talked about the transition Ouzts was making, and
we, we all have to remember he was playing tight end in college.
Yeah.
He, like, he wasn't a fullback.
So learning something new at the highest level, can you imagine going to the
highest level of, marketing, Clinton?
Like, the highest, the highest thing in the, in the entire land,
and they're like, "You know how you always dealt with graphics?

(48:08):
Well, now you're a copy editor."

Clinton (48:10):
Mm-hmm.

" Adam (48:10):
And you gotta, and you gotta do it at the highest level."
Be hard to do, right?
If you've never been a copy editor.

Clinton (48:15):
It would take a little- Like, same … it would
take a little while, right.
It would take a little while, so.

Adam (48:18):
Same, same thing.
So I don't know.
Wait, wait and see on the fullback position.
I'm not sold on Brady Russell being the fullback just because
of size and, you know, kind of history and things like that.
Love the human.

Clinton (48:30):
Yeah.

Adam (48:30):
- Correct … not, not sure that, he's the
perfect fit for fullback.
But again, with all of the different weapons that you had mentioned earlier
in the podcast when, you know, from the tight end room specifically, you
know, Fleury's got a lot of toys to play with, and he may end up in 12, 13
personnel a lot more than he does 22, so.

(48:50):
Or, or even 21.
20.
So yeah, we'll see how it goes.

Clinton (48:54):
Yeah, we will see.
Pre-season will show us some more.
I mean, at the end of all of that, I mean, man, let's just hope that Ouzts is
not that injured, and he can get back.
And- Yeah … I, I think my overarching point on that one is that, I think
Ouzts is a different type of athlete than anybody else they have in that position,
on the ro- on the current roster.

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And if he is healthy, I think his ceiling as a fullback is really, really high.
Really high.
Sure.
So, so let's get, let's get the, the best guy back there.
And then I was thinking about Nick Kallerup.
We keep hearing that Kallerup's having a good camp as, like, this 3, 4 tight
end, and how many tight ends- H-back
are we actually gonna keep?
And he's 6'5", he's 266, but he, you know, but he can move as a t- he's

(49:37):
a good, good blocker as a tight end.
So the last idea about fullback is I just wonder if they've even discussed
it in, in the hall saying- C- could Nick do what Ouzts did last year?
I mean, again, these are, these are good athletes.
So change is hard, but if they want the Ouzts style guy, they maybe have
one in the wings with Kalarup that is similarly sized and a, and a

(49:59):
good athlete in, on his own right.
So just one last- You- … thought on that side.

Adam (50:03):
Well, all right.
One, one last, last thought.

Clinton (50:04):
Yeah, sure.

Adam (50:05):
Conspiracy Adam's here.
And I think that they're holding on to the Ouzts information until
the next episode of Hard Knocks.

Clinton (50:14):
Oh, okay.
You, you want the drama.
Yeah.
You want the drama.

Adam (50:17):
Yeah, I think,

Clinton (50:17):
I think that's where- Because nothing sells more than
fullbacks, baby, with staches.
That's, that's what a-

Adam (50:21):
And this fan base- Well- … who's primarily watching Hard Knocks-
… and a guy like Robert Ouzts, Robbie Ouzts with that mustache and what he
could possibly mean in this scheme, I, the beautiful thing is, I'm
knocking on all the wood, like that's one of the biggest injur- injuries
we're talking about to this point.
And so it seems like, to me, that there could be an upside it, and no real

(50:44):
downside to holding that information, like your Kyle Shanahan, and not
releasing it until like 11 days later.
but this time for Hard Knocks instead of, to Chris Simms.

Clinton (50:53):
Yes, I was driving my Tesla, which was driving itself, and
I reached my phone, but it's maybe my fault, but maybe not my fault.
yeah.
Good.
Way, way to, way to come clean, Kyle.
All right.
So let's go to, let's go to Milroe- It's not the phone … because I, let's save
Murphy for last if you're okay with that.
Because- Sure … I know you wanna talk Milroe.
I'll just pass it to you as simply as that.
Having a nice camp.

(51:13):
What are you seeing, hearing?
What do you think Seattle's thinking?
Because if we're talking about fullbacks and fourth tight ends, Milroe
matters to that conversation a lot because carrying three quarterbacks
is not what most NFL teams do, Adam.

Adam (51:29):
They don't, but John Schneider's not most GMs.
And one of the- True … number one things that he learned from Ron Wolf
at his time with Green Bay, and go back and think about those quarterback
rooms, for a minute, and the names that were a part of that.

Clinton (51:44):
Not bad, not

Adam (51:44):
bad.
I mean, you, you know about the big ones.
You could even go back and think about other, like Mark Brunell and Ty
Detmer and like, you know, guys who could play quarterback in this league.
Look, they're gonna keep three quarterbacks, and they're definitely
not trading Jalen Milroe anytime soon as much as the national media wants
to trade him away desperately I think it's absolutely fascinating to hear

(52:09):
many of the same folks who talked about what he looked like in the limited
times that they saw him in OTAs, change their narrative completely
from the, "He'll never figure it out.
He can't hit the broad side of a barn from 12 feet," and "But he sure
is fast," to, "Oh my goodness," like, "he's playing on time and in rhythm,

(52:30):
and is hitting all layers of the field."
And I thought Nemhauser did a very nice job, you know, kinda tracking his
progress through a few, sequential days, which I think is more important than
just being like, "Dude looked good today."

Clinton (52:44):
Right.
Yeah, for sure.

Adam (52:44):
you know, being like, "He's stacking this."
And you know, one of the things Brian kept talking about was,
Milroe's ability to hit things over the middle, which he is correct about.
Mm-hmm.
He is, he's very good at throwing over the middle of the field.
But he often talked about how he's not good outside the numbers, and I was
like, "Well, that's true on deep stuff, but if you're talking about outs and
things like that, then that's incorrect.

(53:04):
He did that well in college, and he could do it from the far hash, near hash.
It didn't, it didn't make no never mind, because dude's got an absolute
hose, bigger hose than maybe the hose."
So at the end of the day, it is fascinating and gratifying and,
exciting to hear that people are starting to see that when you get somebody with

(53:26):
that kind of talent, and a guy who is an accurate quarterback who suffered
bouts of inaccuracy, not an inaccurate quarterback that could fa- occasionally
find a couple stretches of, you know, hot streaks- what that guy looks like when
he's had real deal NFL coaching for his first full off-season as a professional.

(53:47):
And then to top it all off, Clinton-

Clinton (53:49):
Mm-hmm

… Adam (53:49):
our good buddy Dan Viens- Yeah … from Seahawks Forever, right?
And also Sleeper Seahawks, he's doing that now as well.
Yeah.
So congrats to him on that, which is really awesome.
Check him out.
But, you know, Dan seeing him over a couple days and being like,
"My God, he's hitting everything."
Might've been best quarterback on the field.
And this is such a massive deal for this team because of the upcoming

(54:12):
potential Sam Darnold deal, here in the next year or so.
And it just gives you flexibility, right?
Like, if you decide, if you're John Schneider, you're like, "Yeah, no, I'm
still gonna give Darnold a bag and we're gonna roll with him for the next four or
five years," now you have a legitimate trade chip that has looked good at
a preseason, looked good in a couple training camps, that has some experience

(54:32):
with a Super Bowl caliber team that you can then flip into a high draft pick
and help to replenish the cupboards.
Or John could look at it and say, "Look, I really like this mid-tier
quarterback money and what that allows me to do in terms of building a defense
for my defensive-minded head coach so that we can win Super Bowls that way,"

(54:52):
and you'll let Sam go get a bigger bag somewhere else, and you enjoy his time
here, and you wish him nothing but the best, and then you roll with the young
kid who looks like he's raring to go.
So this is such a big development for this, organization because
of what that asset could mean.
And also, told you so.

Clinton (55:13):
I was waiting for that for about- Yeah.
I love it.
So I'm not gonna add too much to the, to Milroe because you said it and said
it well, and you also properly named some of the pundits out there that
are, that are watching it that had access or, like, he's stacking those
days, which is really impressive.
So I won't add there.
What I will ask you, and I'll pivot it for a second, still, still on
the Milroe topic, is did you see which NFL quarterback retired today?

Adam (55:38):
I did not.

Clinton (55:38):
So he's a dude you like.
Mr.,
Mr.
One Glove himself, or maybe two gloves, Teddy Bridgewater.
Oh, yeah.
So Bridgewater, so I bring it up not because I, I know you're a Bridgewater
fan, and he's a very competent, you know, had a, I'd say a good NFL career.
Maybe not quite the ceiling that was expected when he was coming out of
college, but he had terrible injury luck.
But he had, still had a good NFL career.

(56:00):
But he's on a Lions team, right?
So you got Jared Goff, and I, I don't know who their third or now second
is, so maybe they have somebody in the wings I'm, I'm just not thinking about.
That's fine.
But if Milroe is truly taking this kind of step forward, which it sounds like
he is, and everything you just said- Would it not make a little bit of sense

(56:20):
to clear a roster spot and maybe pick up the phone and see if the Lions are
interested in a player like Drew Lock?
Like, do you think it's too soon to pull that plug?
Or it's like, you know what?
There's a need.
You need a l- look, this is a Lions team that thinks it's still in the, in the
Super Bowl window, and they might be.
But they certainly think they are.
Okay, I don't, giving them a solid quarterback that if Goff goes down

(56:45):
for four to six weeks, who could go in a dome and throw the ball around
to Amon-Ra and, and Jahmyr Gibbs.
Okay.
So I'm just interested, interested to hear your take on, might it be time to…
I'm not interested in shopping Millro, and I love the Hos, but
is it time to maybe shop the Hos?

Adam (57:04):
I would say in this case, 'cause it's always, these sort of questions
are, have completely different answers for many different teams, depending on
where you are in the life cycle of a team in, you know, an era, a window,
however it is that you wanna put it.
You're, I was gonna say smack dab in the middle of, but honestly, I think we're

(57:28):
at the beginning of a huge window here with legitimate Super Bowl, I'm gonna say
favorites, rather than aspirations, right?
Mm-hmm.
Like, they don't just have aspirations.
They're favorites, and they ought to be.
They're the defending Super Bowl champions, and they didn't
get worse this off-season.
Mm-hmm.
So, at the end of the day, do I want a guy to come in and take

(57:52):
over for a potential Super Bowl year if heaven forbid Sam gets hurt, that
has never done it before at the NFL level, or do I want somebody that's
been around the league and has seen it all, and is comfortable and secure
in his place in the world, and- Mm-hmm
really understands the speed of the game and the league, and,

(58:12):
and that sort of thing?
I want that vet, I think, at that point.
So I think it is too soon- Okay … to think about getting rid of Drew Lock.
Plus, like, I, I mean, what are you gonna get for him?
A fourth?

Clinton (58:26):
Well, in a, in a draft class that's supposedly loaded, right?
So, you know- Sure.
Yeah, fourth.
Yeah … fourth, fourth round.
Again, suppo- supposedly better talent than there was this year.
There's, there was a coveting, "Hey, we have 12 picks," nice number.
12, 12 picks heading into next year.
That's on purpose.
That's not by accident.
So,- Yeah … you know, they, they, the, the scouts could look at the batch
and be like, "Okay, the overall picture is there's a lot of talent sitting

(58:47):
there," but maybe, maybe a fourth.
Anyway, I thought it was an interesting topic.
I'm not hearing others talk about it.
Yeah.
And I'm just, if it was, hey, I'm not saying this is a, a, we have a binary
choice here, but if the choice was move on from Milroe at this point or
go get something for Lock w- with a team that's in need for a, a vet backup
QB, I would obv- I would just take the latter every single day of the week, and

(59:11):
I just think it might be interesting.
Look, if Milroe goes out and absolutely balls for two straight weeks- Mm-hmm
… and let's say it's two weeks, like, say it's three weeks from today, and
we're on a conversation on a Sunday night, about to head into week three-

Adam (59:23):
Mm-hmm

… Clinton (59:23):
preseason week three, it might be fun to
revisit that very same question.
That's, that's what I'm proposing at this point.

Adam (59:29):
I can already tell you what I'll say.
Make Milroe QB two and keep Drew Lock at three.

Clinton (59:34):
Okay.
All

Adam (59:34):
right.
Like, is it better to be QB rich or QB poor?

Clinton (59:38):
QB rich- Yeah … and, and with 53, with the depth we're talking
about, with dudes that are 6, 7 deep in wide receiver room, and the tight ends
and the running back, there's, there's a lot of talent on this team that we ha-
it's not, it's not a vacuum either, right?
So if you have your two dudes, and you have some practice squad guys, your two

(59:59):
QBs, and you get to then keep on the 53 a guy that you're really, really not wanting
to expose, there's, there's s- there, there is more that comes with that trade
than th- than just saying, "Do you, would you rather have three QBs or two QBs?"
You get to keep a piece that you're not exposing, that you
really believe should be on the 53.
I don't know who that is, but I think that that person would matter, of course.

Adam (01:00:23):
So if you're talking about wide receiver six or QB
three, which is more valuable?

Clinton (01:00:29):
It, it doesn't, it, it could be wide receiver six in, in,- Negative
it, no, no, it could be because wide receiver three may never, ever,
ever, ever play, and wide receiver six, there might be two injuries and
the dude, the dude becomes a star.
It's a, I'm not, it's, it's not a there's no way that's ever the possibility,
'cause that is a possibility.

Adam (01:00:47):
Which, which, which position group is worth more to
the league, quarterbacks or- I, I-
wide receivers?

… Clinton (01:00:52):
I understand what you're getting at.
I'm just saying- Okay … it's not in a vacuum, dude.
I'm just saying, like, hey-

Adam (01:00:57):
Yeah

… Clinton (01:00:57):
if they do only keep two- Yeah … and they got back a trade
chip, then you're like, "Okay, we got a fourth, and we kept a dude that we
really thought was probably gonna get plucked because we're so freaking deep."
So- Yeah … it, that's the equation of, like, a, maybe a fourth, maybe a fifth in
a good-looking draft, and a dude retained on the 53 that you're like, "I think is
gonna make an impact, and we don't have to keep wasting, call-up spots from

(01:01:21):
our practice squad if you really want that, give that guy some NFL snaps."
So it's just not in a vacuum is all I'm saying.
So it, it could be-

Adam (01:01:28):
Yeah

… Clinton (01:01:29):
in a week or two it might be interesting to revisit
this conversation if Milroe is ripping, which would be a really
cool outcome and a cool conversation.

Adam (01:01:36):
It would be.
I'm looking forward to it.
It's one of my favorite things to be watching for,
throughout this preseason.
But I can, I can pretty much tell you right now, Clinton, there's no
universe in which I'm gonna tell anybody, "We should keep Emmanuel Henderson Jr.
instead of Drew Lock."

Clinton (01:01:57):
Okay.

Adam (01:01:58):
Th- th- th- now- I gotcha.
Yeah.
I understand.
It could be

Clinton (01:02:02):
Emmanuel Henderson Jr.
and a fourth, and, you know, so this, again, it's not, it's not just the dude.
It's, it's a package that could be there.
Yeah.
I'm in no rush to get rid of the Hose.
I think he's a perfectly cromulent NFL backup who I believe, in a
stretch, and we've seen it, could play pretty darn good football.
In the right system, he could throw the freaking ball around the yard, and,

(01:02:22):
I'm in no rush to get rid of the guy, and I wanna give Milroe the time that this
organization seems primed to give him- Yeah … to see what he could become.
Yeah.
So I'm okay.
I'm, if that's the outcome, I'm fine with it.
Just tossing out the concept that maybe John wants another bite at the apple come
next year 'cause he likes those picks.
Clearly, he's already amassed 12 of them.

(01:02:44):
All right, we have one more topic, bud.
We're gonna talk Byron Murphy.
So we talked about the ascension, the gradual, slow and steady
plodding ascension,- Yeah … earlier of Anthony Bradford.
The, it's not the antithesis because it's still, it's still a, it's still
progress, but more like the rocket ship, progress from year one to
year two of Byron Murphy, and heading into year three, there's a lot in my

(01:03:09):
brain, Adam, that goes, man, not just the reports, but the, the makeup of
what this dude's entering, like the, his environment as a year three player
to me, kinda screams he might have an absolute monster season that's even
bigger and better than maybe what we're, we, what we think his ceiling can be.

(01:03:30):
How are you feeling about Murphy going into year three?

Adam (01:03:33):
I've talked about this a, a bunch on the last couple shows, so I'm,
I'm more curious to get a little bit more of your take actually on this, Clinton,
but I wanna start it with a question.

Clinton (01:03:41):
Sure.

Adam (01:03:41):
Which is the more surprising, and quick rise to superstardom, or
maybe the least surprising is, is the way to put it, Witherspoon or Murphy?

Clinton (01:03:54):
wait, okay, so which one's less surprising?

Adam (01:03:57):
Yeah.

Clinton (01:03:59):
I, I think Spoon's less surprising be- and here's why.
Interesting.
Okay.
And because I think they're…
Like, Murphy was very good on tape in college, but the sacks
were not there even in college.
So it was like, "Oh, are we just getting a good defensive tackle who's stout?"
You know, his stature, 6'1"ish, 6'0", and h- the sacks were not there

(01:04:19):
in college yet, but it was like, okay, clearly this dude's strong as an ox,
and he was on a very good defensive line with the, with, the Longhorns.
Spoon was jump off the tape every single week.
Like, that guy's taking heads off, and so coming down and crashing from the
cornerback position, a like, a clear great tackler, like, loves contact,
and was clearly versatile in a really strong Illinois team that year as well.

(01:04:44):
So that's, that's my…
I, I think it was less surprising Spoon has had this ascension.
but it's not, it's not, like, surprising that Murphy is where
he is going to year three for me.

Adam (01:04:56):
Yeah, 'cause I thought about this a little bit, and honestly, like, JSN's
ascension to super-duper stardom,…
Well, not, again, and it, we're…
Let me put the baseline on this so we don't get too crazy.
Right, right.
There were multiple- Like- Yeah, these were- Like- Yeah … everybody
said, "These are quality picks."
Like, "We're excited about 'em."
I wasn't as

Clinton (01:05:14):
excited about- These are all first round- these are all high first
rounders we're talking about here, right?
So we get it.

Adam (01:05:16):
Right.
At the time, I wasn't stoked about the JSN pick because he didn't play D
tackle when we desperately needed one.
Turns out we got the one we're talking about now the next year.
The, but with that said, like, a lot of people looked at JSN and was
like, "Ah, inside guy, I don't know that he can play outside," right?
And like- Yep … so his ascension to, like, being legitimately one, two, or
three, depending on how you look at it, best receiver in the league, or number

(01:05:38):
third, or number three- Sure … best receiver in the league, that, that,
there is some surprise there, right?
To me- Yeah … Spoon's a little bit more surprising because, than
Murphy, because just the size, right?
Like, that was the one thing you looked at on screen, it's like you're not
physically imposing and you play with this, you know, extra 30 pounds
on your shoulder pad somehow that you run through people with, you know?

(01:06:01):
and, you know, can you hold up?
And, you know, he didn't test, like, off the charts, right?
Like, he wasn't one of those workout marvels.
He's a freaking football player.
Mm.
You know?
And so, like, there's some legitimate questions to be had when, you know,
he was drafted, although I, I loved the pick at the time, and- Sure
… obviously we, we all love it now.
To me, it's Byron Murphy is the least surprising, like, when you look at what

(01:06:25):
he did at Texas and the explosiveness and the strength, and then not only that, but
the leverage because of his build, right?
He plays so low, and he wins the leverage right out of the gate every
single time, a little like Poona Ford, but on Aaron Donald- Definitely.
Yeah … type, you know- Yeah … level.
And I mean, when I saw him in- You know, kinda started studying

(01:06:45):
him after the pick was made.
To me it was like, oh yes, all of this forever.
He's going to be a super duper star.
And so as we talk about his rise and the quick ascension through just two,
two years in the league now going into the third, I- to me personally,
I'm like, oh yeah, right on schedule.
And, you know, they can talk all about Aaron Donald coming back, 89-year-old

(01:07:08):
Aaron Donald who hasn't played in three years, and how he's gonna come back and be
at the same, you know, first ballot Hall of Fame level that he was when he retired.
They can do that.
They're, they're welcome to do it.
I mean, everybody lives in delusion in some way or another, and that's fine.
I'm really excited about the guy who is the next at that position, and is just
beginning to scratch his prime, and has the attitude to be able to unlock it.

(01:07:32):
Byron Murphy's ascension over the last couple years, and then hearing, like,
what he's going through in terms of his goals and, you know, what he's trying
to get to in pass rush situations, it's [bleep] exciting, dude.
Like, it- there's no other way to put it.
that's the type of guy that I mean, we saw the impact that Prime

(01:07:54):
Aaron Donald had for the Rams defense.
That's what we're witnessing now with-

Clinton (01:07:58):
Mm

… Adam (01:07:59):
Byron Murphy, and he still has Leo and- DeMarcus … and
Riley Mills and Jarran Reed.
Right.
Like, all that around him.
It's, dude, it's outrageous, and I couldn't be more giddy about it.

Clinton (01:08:10):
Yeah.
so I, I echo all that i- in, in the sense that I think
that year three, i- it's…
Year two was really, I mean, for him to not make Pro Bowl or, or be like
no All-Pro, no Pro Bowl, which I think what, what we do wanna talk about too
is, like, he has a ch- he's actively out there- Yeah … like, a little chip on
his shoulder being like, "You need to pay attention to me out here," and seemingly

(01:08:32):
is training and, and just the maturation, and again, the team he's got around him,
like, adding a player like Riley Mills.
Yes, year two, but not really.
Like, adding a Riley Mills, and it's just all bubbling up to, like, yeah, like, this
dude could take a- another step, which is already at a incredibly high level.

(01:08:53):
And the Texas stuff, it's just that the sacks were not there.
That's all.
And, and they're high variance anyway, but the sacks were not there.

Adam (01:09:00):
Especially for that position,

Clinton (01:09:01):
right?
That's, of course, defensive tackle, you're not, you know, you're not
really supposed to go get double-digit sacks or eight or nine or 12 or 14
sacks from playing a zero, one, or, or sometimes scooching over to the three.
You're just not.
But, and also by the way, while you're going down to one knee to
take on two dudes so that you could keep, you know, Ernest Jones
super clean so he can get a tackle for a loss or a tackle or two yard, a

(01:09:23):
two-yard gain or s- stuff like that.
So he just does it all.
I, of all the players, I don't know who I'm most excited about to watch this year.
It's not even, like, watch.
It, it's just more like monitor a- and those are different things.
You know?
Mm.
But, they really are different things.
But to monitor, like, what he's gonna do this year, I just feel that i- it's

(01:09:47):
coming to this head of superstardom, where he's going to be like, "Your
refusal to watch my body of work the first two seasons," year one was good,
year two was damn good, and, like, the refusal for the, the NFL wide to
really recognize him as a superstar, I think he took that personally, Adam.

(01:10:07):
I think he's taking it personally, and I think he's gonna have one of these,
like, too big to fail type things.
Like, you no longer get the right to ignore what I did this season.
That's the kinda season I think he's shaping up to produce, and I think that
means really good things for our Seahawks.
I'm just very high on him as a, as ascension into being a leader also through

(01:10:29):
that play, while you have dudes like Leo and Delaw and Reed who are on the, let's
say, last third of their, their careers.
Yeah.
Great careers.
That's kind of where I put him, man.
He's gonna be so exciting to kinda, I, I keep using that word monitor,
'cause it just feels like that's…
I don't need to watch him every single, like I don't…
I'm gonna watch every game, man.
I'm gonna watch every single play.

(01:10:50):
I don't gotta worry about him, but I wanna watch the little things
that's making him into that superstar that I think he's gonna become.

Adam (01:10:58):
Well, good luck catching him, 'cause he's so damn quick for that size.
And I think one of the things you touched on is, you know, I took that personal.
I mean, he has that Jordan mentality, right?

Clinton (01:11:08):
Yeah.

Adam (01:11:08):
And you can see it, it oozes off the screen in his interviews, and I think
he'll take it even a step further of you no longer have the right to overlook me.
That's what I'm saying.
It's, it's I am taking away the option-

Clinton (01:11:20):
Yeah,

Adam (01:11:21):
right … that you're going to overlook me.
There will be no overlooking me.
You cannot do it and have eyeballs.
Like, it, it'll be impossible, and I'm here for it, man.
One of my favorite players.
Love the draft pick, love what that means to build your team
that way from the inside out.

Clinton (01:11:38):
Mm-hmm.

Adam (01:11:38):
And oh gosh, having him as your interior anchor for the next
10 years, terrorizing every NFC West quarterback, yes please.
I cannot wait

Clinton (01:11:53):
it's gonna be very fun when he's chasing Carson
Beck for the next decade, 'cause, Carson Beck- Carson who?
Clearly the, the king of the preseason, so- Oh, he's played

Adam (01:12:01):
great in the Hall of Fame Game, and now he's in the c-
starting conversation over brisket.
Okay.

Clinton (01:12:07):
I, I love it.
That was a lot of fun.
Hey, so we went through the six categories.
We did news and notes, and I wanna remind folks, so Tuesday night, so Hard Knocks
Episode 2 will be out, and we'll be live directly soon as that is over on HBO.
Come back here, we'll be live, so make sure you're subscribing out on YouTube so
you know exactly when we are going live.
Wednesday, it sounds like we just gotta button it up, make sure it's cool with

(01:12:30):
Brandan as well, but Wednesday we're looking to have Josh Heit on, and he
was out, out at, at the camp just this last couple days, so have some,
like, live reporting, what did he see, what was looking good for him out there.
So we're excited to have Josh on.
And then we got more, we got tons more coming up.
Plus, Adam, we have a real football game versus the Dallas Cowboys
that's coming up this week that we get to prep and then talk about.

(01:12:54):
Dude, it's back.

Adam (01:12:54):
It's back.
It's here.
It's time.
I can't wait, and, I can't wait to have to talk about training camp reports.
I can't wait to, stop having to break down, press conferences and look for
meaning, through all of the coach speak that everybody uses these days.
I cannot wait to watch the Seahawks go out and whip the Cowboys'

(01:13:18):
ass and see Shoddy go home sad.
Even though I like Shoddy, you're going home sad.

Clinton (01:13:23):
He's going home big sad.
Look, you gotta get in the Discord.
Head over to getintheflock.com.
I think it's five bucks a month now, but you become a member
of the Discord, that's on fire.
And if Discord's not your thing but you still wanna contribute to the show because
it brings you joy and entertainment, maybe a little bit of enlightenment,
then go ahead and do that there as well.
Follow, like, subscribe.
Let's get ready for Seahawks football.

(01:13:44):
I cannot wait.
Adam, I think with that-

Adam (01:13:47):
There's only one thing left to say

Clinton (01:13:48):
Go Hawks.

Adam (01:13:49):
Go Hawks.

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