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January 22, 2026 73 mins

Sarah's outdoor adventures never stop, and this time she ended up in a ski parade! While Susie has resorted to wearing heated apparel inside. Susie shares the story of Andrea Yates, the woman who killed her five children, and the religious beliefs that made her think she should. Susie is worked up about how grandparents now insist on being called all kinds of weird names and Sarah's got a theory about why they don't want to be called "grandma." We discuss the abundance of "service" dogs on planes and the reasons people bend the rules to get their dog on board, and why it's the airlines's fault. And we hear about two babies who were switched at birth and it wasn't discovered until they were two years old, and the moms had to decide whether to switch them back or not! The story is unbelievable, and no matter what, there is no right answer to how to handle it.


00:00 - Sarah's Ski Parade and Susie's Heated Apparel

17:51 - Unpacking the Horrific Andrea Yates Child Drowning Case

23:13 - Examining the Extreme Religious Cult Behind Andrea Yates

30:30 - How Religious Ideology Scaffolds Mental Illness

43:11 - Why Grandparents Resist Being Called 'Grandma'

52:17 - The Airline's Fault for Fake Service Dogs

01:01:34 - The Impossible Choice in a Switched at Birth Case

01:11:39 - Support the Podcast: Patreon, Reviews, and Sponsors


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