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August 28, 2025 • 53 mins

🔥 Excerpt

If your résumé screams "winning" and your soul feels empty, this one's for you. Dean Forbes breaks down what it takes to live aligned—spiritually, mentally, emotionally, and physically—so success finally feels like success.

⚡ TL;DR

I sat down with Dean Forbes—entrepreneur, coach, and founder of the Maverick Men of Color Brotherhood—to unpack why so many high performers are "winning on paper" and quietly disintegrating. Dean lays out the Maverick Method (spiritual clarity, mental toughness, emotional fortitude, physical tenacity) and shows how conviction, congruence, and brotherhood turn achievement into integration. If you've outgrown the grind and you're ready to operate at peace, press play.

đź“„ Show Notes

I brought Dean Forbes into the studio because too many top producers are burning daylight building empires that don't fit their soul. Dean's lived the arc: Wall Street, big-brand leadership, multiple seven-figure ventures—and the quiet emptiness that came with chasing the next rung. What's different now? Conviction and congruence. He finally got obedient to the inner compass and aimed his life at purpose, not optics.

Dean breaks down the Maverick Method, the operating system he's practiced for two decades:

  • Spiritual Clarity: Know who you are and why you're here. Alignment isn't a mood; it's a mandate.
  • Mental Toughness: Boundaries, decisions, and discipline. Say "no" more often and mean it.
  • Emotional Fortitude: Master your state so you can steward relationships—at home and in the boardroom.
  • Physical Tenacity: Treat the body like the engine it is. When the temple's strong, everything else holds.

We also name a problem most founders won't: disintegration—that gap between external success and internal collapse. You're delivering results, but the cost is your peace, your presence, and your purpose. Dean's answer is both countercultural and simple: create a space where men of color can be fully seen, challenged, and celebrated—without performance masks. That's the Maverick Men of Color Brotherhood: practice over theory, accountability over posturing, love and empathy over bravado.

We go straight at the "level the playing field" conversation without getting stuck in outrage theater. Facts matter. Dialogue matters. But before you can lead change, you need oneness—with God, yourself, your family, your craft. Integration precedes impact.

We touch fatherhood, modeling conviction for your kids, and why the first step is the hardest—and every step after that gets lighter because your faith compounds. We also talk storytelling and education: partnering with creators who surface lost history and culture, and why narrative is a lever for societal shift.

If you're done performing success and ready to live it, this episode is your reset.

âś… Key Takeaways

  • Integration > Accumulation: If achievement costs your peace, you're not scaling—you're disintegrating.
  • The Maverick Method works in sequence: Spiritual clarity anchors mental toughness, which stabilizes emotions, which your body then sustains.
  • Conviction is a force multiplier: You only need it for the first move. After that, evidence compounds faith.
  • Boundaries are strategic assets: "No" creates the margin for purpose.
  • Brotherhood is infrastructure: Men of color need a tested, judgment-free arena for truth, challenge, and celebration.
  • Lead with facts, then dialogue: Truth without relationship hardens; relationship without truth coddles.
  • Fitness is leadership hygiene: Treat training like a daily executive briefing for your nervous system.
  • Model what you preach at home: Your kids remember how your decisions felt more than what you said.
  • Leveling the field isn't division: It's building equal launch platforms so excellence can do its job.

đź§­ Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Energy Boost
02:25 Dean Forbes: Background and Journey
03:54 The Call to Purpose and Impact
06:24 Understanding Divine Purpose
08:11 Navigating Relationships and Conviction
11:52 The Journey of Sacrifice and Growth
14:55 Immediate Loss vs. Long-term Gains
16:46 Staying Convicted in Your Path
19:38 The Maverick Method Explained
22:36 Addressing Disintegration in Men of Color
26:31 Creating a Safe Space for Men of Color
29:05 The Importance of Brotherhood and Community
31:36 Addressing Racial Bias and Divisiveness
33:01 Navigating Personal and Societal Challenges
39:09 Striving for Social Change and Equality
41:07 U

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