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September 13, 2018 52 min

DJ Wade-O sits down with speaker, teacher, wife, mother, rapper, and writer, Jackie Hill-Perry, in her home city of Chicago, IL. It had been over 8 months since her and Wade-O sat down, so they had a lot to cover. During this very informative interview, we get into her new book, ideas and themes surrounding sexuality and the church, her new album, and being protested while speaking at Harvard University, and more. 


  • [0:28] - Intro
  • [0:57] - Her & Preston's move to Atlanta
  • [2:04] - Thoughts surrounding JGivens "coming out"
  • [8:08] - Timing in the release of her new book
  • [10:35] - Her testimony in regards to her sexuality
  • [13:25] - Why the Church focuses on sexuality so much
  • [16:45] - When/how her mom found out she was gay
  • [19:00] - How the topic of homosexuality is taboo in black families
  • [20:50] - Questions about homosexuality in the context of 
  • [22:51] - "Can you be gay and Christian?"
  • [25:10] - New album & #CHHSexism from early this summer
  • [28:23] - How does Poets in Autumn make their tour work with both genders on the bill?
  • [34:03] - Story behind the song, "Fall Away"
  • [38:12] - Poets in Autumn vs. Family
  • [41:55] - Wade acknowledges the Glow Up
  • [43:03] - Being protested at Harvard University
  • [47:53] - Do you think the protesters listened?
  • [49:13] - What do you mean by "converted"?
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