October 29, 2025 • 53 mins
In this raw and revealing episode, Dr. Rady Rahban sits down with acclaimed actress, producer, and proud Latina — Roselyn Sánchez — for one of the most honest conversations about self-image, aging, and plastic surgery ever recorded.
At 50, Roselyn opens up about her breast lift and reduction journey with Dr. Rahban — why she did it, how she felt before and after, and the powerful moment she finally looked in the mirror and thought, “I look 21 again.” Together, they unpack what it means to age in the spotlight, the impossible pressure Hollywood places on women, and how Latina beauty culture adds an extra layer of both pride and pressure.
Dr. Rahban dives deep into the psychology behind “feeling enough,” the fine line between self-improvement and self-criticism, and how public figures like Roselyn can empower others simply by being transparent. They discuss the unspoken fears—scars, insecurity, staying relevant, raising confident daughters—and the courage it takes to say “Yes, I did it” in an industry built on denial. This conversation goes beyond surgery. It’s about self-worth, motherhood, and the evolving definition of beauty in a filter-obsessed world. Whether you’re 25 or 55, celebrity or not, this episode will make you rethink how you see yourself, and remind you that confidence starts within.
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At 50, Roselyn opens up about her breast lift and reduction journey with Dr. Rahban — why she did it, how she felt before and after, and the powerful moment she finally looked in the mirror and thought, “I look 21 again.” Together, they unpack what it means to age in the spotlight, the impossible pressure Hollywood places on women, and how Latina beauty culture adds an extra layer of both pride and pressure.
Dr. Rahban dives deep into the psychology behind “feeling enough,” the fine line between self-improvement and self-criticism, and how public figures like Roselyn can empower others simply by being transparent. They discuss the unspoken fears—scars, insecurity, staying relevant, raising confident daughters—and the courage it takes to say “Yes, I did it” in an industry built on denial. This conversation goes beyond surgery. It’s about self-worth, motherhood, and the evolving definition of beauty in a filter-obsessed world. Whether you’re 25 or 55, celebrity or not, this episode will make you rethink how you see yourself, and remind you that confidence starts within.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to another episode of Plastic Surgery and Centered. I'm
your host, Doctor Roddy Rabon, and what a show we
have for you. That's right. I am honored to have
a fred a dear friend, Roslin Sanchez. That's right, ladies
and gentlemen, a true famous person on the show. So
why this show is going to be great is we're
gonna do two things that I think you're gonna find
(00:28):
super super interesting. One, we're actually going to talk about
her own journey, and then two we're gonna talk about
somebody that I always find so fascinating so interesting. Is
we all from the outside wonder what it's like to
be within the world of Hollywood, the good, the bad,
the ugly. And now we're going to get a first
hand encounter and discussion from Rosalind about her perspective being fifty,
(00:51):
being Latina, and being an actress. So you're gonna want
to listen in because it's going to be a super
super excellent show. Roslin, yes, bin Benilo, Yes, Benita. Oh no,
we'll do the Spanish version another time. Welcome to the show.
Thank you, We're so grateful to have you. And uh,
(01:14):
it's been such a wonderful journey getting to know you.
You know, I think everybody has all these people think
they know people, people think they know me, people think
they know you, people think they know anyone who they
see or wonder, And it turns out that the overwhelming
majority of times what you think isn't necessarily very accurate,
and often you're so pleasantly surprised, and you have been
(01:37):
super awesome and lovely and wonderful. So let's talk about specifically,
how long has it been since you and I since
you had your surgery?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
How long has it been January thirtieth January June twenty something,
about six months yea or less of that.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So, and we did a breast reduction. I'm very tiny.
It was more of a lift correct And that's excellent
because we're going to talk about that because I think
when you first came, and this is such an important part, yep,
there's a lot of misunderstandings about what it does and
who does what. But I remember having met you a
few times, eh, meaning you would come for a bunch
of consults, which is super customary. Everyone thinks you just
(02:16):
decide like, oh, I want to have a procedure, and
then you just show up to that. That's not how
this works. You you contemplate, you think about it, you say, oh,
I'm and so for you, because you were blessed with
fuller breasts, and you're a very flat, gat very thin,
and very elegant and also very athletic woman, you had
found that your rests were starting to become like they
(02:37):
were falling. They were falling probably kids.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
If you had I have two kids, two kids, did
you breastfeed both five months?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
The first three months the second? Correct? And you are
now forty nine, I'm fifty fifty. I was my.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
First baby, I was thirty eight, the second one forty four.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Got it. And so everybody, even actresses, even actors, even
everybody's body chain is the same. We're all the same.
Some people are lucky, they're genetically blessed, but no one
is going to be able to get away without the
changes that occur. So a woman who's fifty, who's had
(03:13):
two children, whose breast fed two children, will naturally a
lose volume in most instances, sometimes gay, and almost always
will have some dependency or sag of their breast, which
then creates issues of wardrobe and back aches and exercise
and things So let's start with what was bothering you.
So here you are, everyone looks at you and says,
oh my god, she looks spectacular, and you're thinking you're
(03:36):
a fark. I don't want I don't feel like that, right,
So what was it that was bothering?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
It was just that they felt.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
And it's interesting that you said that I was blessed
because I had a like like a full breast right,
But my whole life, I always I was a thirty
four A my whole life, I was kind of a
very super Tinian thought.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Then I had Sabella, my first one, and I went
to a.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
C right and then or like a B plus or something,
and they was so pretty. I'm going, okay, I can
work with this, and I have, for whatever reason, my breast.
All my friends that were moms were said after breastfeeding.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
They were dealing down.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
They looked like raisins, And I'm going, that's interesting because.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Mine grew while I was pregnant. I had my.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Baby, I breastfed, and they never came down. They're actually
bigger and we okay, no problem. Then I have dialing
at forty four, they grew even more, never went down,
and I kept seeing like, my God, my breast keeps
keeps growing even though I'm the same weight, I'm back
to my pre pregnancy weight. So I was very confused
and I was not used to it. And I grew
up dancing ballet. I was a balerina my whole life,
(04:37):
so I want to be flat.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
So I was like, I don't understand somebody with the
body I want to water.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
But anyways, and then my mom, funny enough, had four kids,
was flat, and my mom was very flat and ninety
eight pounds when she got married, and my mom had
a reduction after having all the interesting but I don't
have my mom's body type at all, so I never
thought in a million years that might happen to me.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Then after Dyland, I was like, I wonder if I'm
gonna be like my mom? And then you explain to me, Funny,
you know that? So I like fifteen percent of women.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
But I was just saying about this is an arbitraging
about twenty percent of women, instead of experiencing what eighty
percent experiences that I start out a I had my
first child, they shrunk. I had my second child, they shrunk.
I had Yeah, twenty percent of patients fifteen twenty they
find their breastket bigger, bigger, and listen. My husband loved it.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I was like, you know what, it doesn't look bad,
but I was not used to it. And then of
course they're.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Bigger, sure, but they're falling. Of course, not horrific, no,
but it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Because I'll never ever forget.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I did a TV.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Show in my first time acting in Spanish and I'd
go to Columbia to do a TV show and Sabella
was three and a half months. I was in the
middle of breastfeeding and we do an episode that it
was like this whole there was like a comedy, like
a big comedy. The challenge of the pencil, meaning that
if you can put a pencil.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Which we talked about all in the pencil test falls right,
there is time for you to fix your preass and if.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
It doesn't fall, if it.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yes, And I was like at that moment, because it
was Justabella right and I was still breastfeeding, I was like,
and then I do that, I'll never forget. I'm home
and I see my left breast and I was like,
let me see what they're Yeah, for sure it's going
to stay and I grabbed this eyeliner.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And that shit stays, and you're like, google what And
I will to my days in Columbia laughing about it too.
I don't know if I want to be like this
and listen, they were not bad, like you ask my husband.
He was like, you're crazy, You're crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
But I was like, it's.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
They can be a little better, right, they can be
a little better, and I think it's going to make
me happier.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Nobody sees it, you know what I mean, But it's
just it was. It was an issue with me, myself.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And I one hundred percent, and that's what we talked
about on a regular basis. Actually, on a couple of
shows pass we had a kind of a individual who
is sort of she hates a term, but it's a
life coach type person, and she's trying to address the
fact that people want to feel good and confidence through
getting things done. I was trying to tell her, yeah,
but there is a component of confidence that comes from
(07:16):
the way you see yourself. And it doesn't matter if
your husband or your boyfriend, or your or your wife
or your parents tell you you're perfect, because it's the
way we perceive ourselves and so Okay, so that happened, which,
by the way, for everyone is normal. I had a
bunch of kids. My breasts either got bigger smaller, but
they almost sag. And then you and I met and
we started chatting about it. And I remember having this
(07:37):
conversation with you, and I why I want to highlight
this is I think this is really important for people
to understand, because you had a very specific goal. And
I remember you're like, I want them lifted because there's
kind of heavy and they sag, and I want them smaller.
And I said to you, and I remember that because
you're flakat, you're nice in pain, you're athletic, and you're
used to smaller breasts, right, And you felt I would
(07:58):
feel better on my body. And I said, I have
no problem with that. I don't care. I'm not speaking.
I didn't get a phone call from Eric. But I
think if you reduce your breast too much, while they
may feel great, they may not look great. Okay, And
people are like, what does that mean. It's there's a frame,
and geometrically, in order to create a pretty breast, you
(08:19):
need some projection, and depending on the frame, after a
certain point of removing tissue, you get kind of flatter.
And I said, I think you should lift and remove
a little tissue. And I said, no, remove, and You're like,
I'd like to remove more tissue. And we kind of
did the stance a few times and then I won no.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Then I went on on the stakes I needed whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Needless to say, we did a lift, absolutely, and in
that process removed some breast tissue. But I think when
you had said afterwards, like, wow, they seem smaller or
they look a little bit smaller, even though we didn't
remove that much tissue.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
It was there were like right after the reveal rather
revealed they're big, of course.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And I was like, oh my god, I look like
I have implants.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Right. My husband's like, you look like you have it plansant.
I'm going, this is wow. Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
And then now they settled and they look small. I
love it, he says, you know they're smaller. I'm going, yeah,
that's what I want it.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You know, I'm happy. I would have done even less,
to be honest, I know, but I but that's where
I wanted to talk about it. Yeah, there is what
you want, which obviously is a huge part of what
we do this and then there is what's geometrically or
physically capable, which you explain to that. I know why
your surgeon is important in this, yeh, you know. And
this is an interesting part because this is going to
(09:36):
be a huge leap now. But if you look at
Michael Jackson, he was a celebrity. He went to surgeons
and I believe they did for him what he asked. Okay,
Whereas our job as physicians is irrespective if you're who
you are, is to give you the guidance that is
ideal for you, even if it's not what you want
(09:57):
to hear or what it is that you want. Yeah.
So why I say that is you came to me
and you said, listen, I'd like to be smaller, all
very good reasons. And I said to you that I
think from an esthetic standpoint, not from a lifestyle standpoint,
too much smaller would then lead to a breasts that
wouldn't be pretty, and we should come up with a compromise.
And I think that I'm happy that that's what we
ended up doing. Yeah, because yes, smaller would have been fine,
(10:20):
but they wouldn't look pretty. I assure you of that geometrically.
So I'm really really glad that it ended up doing
what you wanted it to do, which is I feel better.
I feel better my clothes, I feel lighter, I can
wear what I need to wear on set, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
The ship is beautiful, it because I was before I came.
I'm getting ready and I'm using this little tanto from
this store in Puerto Rico where I come from, Plea Dieto,
and it's like a little super like like a little tanto, right,
and I did it. I'm doing my makeup and I
don't have a bra, and I'm walking and as sweet.
It was the first time that it happens since the surgery,
and I've I've been very happy. This is the beginning
because they're beautiful. But I'm walking around and I walk
(10:57):
by this long mirror and I swear.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Listen, I don't wanna be conceeed, but I'm looking bike
shit that look good years because they look like perfect
and I.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Mean they were under the little thing, right, but just perky.
And I was like, oh my god, thank you Lord.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It's very beautiful.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
He was nice, yeah, And it's great and and and
that's what this is about. This is about a person
in the intimacy of their own moment, not when their
life partner tells them, but in their own moment to
sit there, look at themselves, their nose, their breasts, their belly,
their hair, their lipstick, their eyeliner, their dress, and go, wow,
(11:39):
I feel good. Yeah, I look, I look I look
fucking great. And then it resonates your interactions with your husband,
your kids, or when you're on stage. So that is
the epicenter of what we try to do, is generate
self confidence from looking at yourself like I look good.
So the what I really like is that, you know,
people talk about things when they are celebrities here and there,
(12:01):
and they tend to be very hush hush about it,
which less so now than before, but still so it's
really this weird juxtaposition. I give you mad props. You're like,
I did this, this is what I did, this is
how it is you talk about it. You've been on
your show, Eric got a little flak for just saying
something silly. And what I love that is it the
freedom in which you discuss it de escalates it and
(12:22):
makes it super normal because you are just like everybody else,
just another woman out there who's living their life. And
I always wondered if if I were a celebrity, just
by my nature, I would be the most transparent. That's
how I am. I just why would I lie about it?
I look amazing, my breasts act, I had a couple
of kids. I fixed it. I look great. Thank you
good buying it. Every bactly, it's like, move on and
(12:43):
there's no controversy there. But I think you did a
great thing for other people in terms of having the discussion,
because the more people that are of influence speak the truth,
the more normal other people will feel about it. So
that's awesome. There was a little funny moment there because
what a lot of people. There are two things that
(13:03):
people are afraid of when it comes to breast, not
to let's say a handful. Number one concern is that
they're gonna have horrific scars. Right, So that was right
up on your high if your that was like, that's
why it took me so long, right because it wasn't
that bad. You have breast down here, You're like, it's
a great easy is it easy trade? I gave you
the scars look horrible, that's way better than yeah, But
(13:25):
when your breast, nose, belly, whatever is borderline. If you will,
then sometimes you get stuck. You get stuck behind not
bad enough, and interestingly enought you live a shittier life,
meaning you don't like your belly as much, or your
eyes or your because it's not bad enough to justify it.
And you're like almost envious of your friends whose situation
(13:46):
is worse because it triggered the ability to do it.
But that's not true. Plastic surgery. Great plastic surgery is
the ability to do it mild, moderate, or severe. In
other words, your case was milder, and we did what
was necessary. And your concern was what if I have
horrific scars? What if like I did this and now
I have these frankent tine scars. It's a struggle. It
(14:07):
was a struggle.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And listen, I love my breast and you did an
incredible job with my incisions, right with my scars, But
I cannot wait, and I'm just being fully transpected if
I cannot wait until I look and they're barely there.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And when is that going to happen? That's going to
happen at eighteen months, twenty four months, et cetera. It
takes time. Now, not everyone's fate. And those individuals whose
breasts are done poorly or have bad outcomes or and
I'm just making it up, go to Miami to a
strip mall and then they are left with ugly outcomes.
(14:45):
Then they have to live with it forever. If it's
done correctly, the scars will be thin and flash and lightish,
and continuously the knob will continue to lighten and they
get darker. Right around in six months they start to lighten,
So they're gonna be a darker now. No, now you're you're
at your peakish whatever color. It is not dark, awesome
(15:08):
or dark whatever they are, OK. But my point being
is that all people heal like this. And what will
happen with you is we'll talk, We'll see each other
at eighteen months or two years, and you'll be like
then it will be light and fade and there will
be a moment I think, in particular with you, that
it'll be hardly perceptive. You know what's interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I go to Natalie's girl it does my facials, and
another lady, Irene that I love that does a lot
of like face treatments like ready frequency, you know, like this,
like whatever, and they see everything, you know, they they see.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
They're the hairdresser and the bar tender.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Exactly, you know, and they've seen like every celebrities and
non celebrities, like they've seen every breast, every tommy talk,
every face everything. Right there are both a lot of
people go to them and both of them, which I
was like, oh my god, thank you, Roddy.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
They know that I.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Did this procedure right. And I think last week I
went to one and like a month ago I went
to the other one.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
And I want to see.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I want to say, I'm going you're gonna see the cars,
but it's okay, and both of them, and it's interesting
because they always tell me we always brace ourselves. I say,
you know, and because the maturi of the type it's awful.
And I show them and they were like, oh my god, girl,
that's beautiful. You're gonna be fine. So you think this
car is gonna and they're like, oh my god. Both
of them that I know very well that would have
(16:21):
said to me, you wanted some laser you the inter
I mean that we're both like, oh, you're gonna be unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
And what's interesting is pointed perspective. You have pointed perspective
of just you, me or them or people who've seen
lots of because a lot of nowhere it is. And
then the other thing you asked me, and I remember
you were like, and I said, or better yet I
told you, I said, please, I beg you don't do
anything to anything until it's here. Now, are you sure
I shouldn't that? Laziered? Oh? Should I go do this? Cream?
(16:50):
Should I do this? Don't effing touch them? You will
ruin them because.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Because everybody else it's non a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Because what happened is they are trying to make up
for shitty scars by doing this laser and that cream
and this lotion and that, And first of all, it
doesn't work, because if it did, we'd have it like
we would not use it, Like if it made things better,
I'd have seven of those devices. Why not. Secondly, they're
trying to fill up the space of the unhappy patient,
(17:19):
so they're gonna do all these creams and lotions and potions,
at which time they're going like, well, Rosie, you don't
feel so well. How about you close like shit? How
about that alphabet? Mm hmm, oh you know your latina
you make dark scars because you're all, what, there's a
million reasons I can blame you, But how about you
just did a shitty job, bro. You just didn't close
(17:41):
layer by layer, time by time and execute the results
that necessary. So I'm very happy that you listen to
me and you have historically just said all right, all right,
because when you are have access to that's the biggest
problem I have now is when you have access to
all of this, it's a dangerous place because you don't know.
(18:03):
And we're going to talk about that in a second.
What to do? What not? Did you when to do it?
You know, for some people it's like getting access. For
someone like you, it's knowing what I should do, what
I shouldn't do, when to do it? Does that work?
Does that not work? Because you look out there you're like, wow,
Jane Finder looks amazing, Share looks amazing. And then you
look at someone and you're like, whoa yea shit, And
(18:25):
they all had access. All these people have access. It's
not something that only she has in you don't. Everything's
available to everyone nowadays. There are no more secrets. And
so you did the right thing, which is you're just
just holding steady. I promise you by even though everything
looks amazing whatever, the last component, which is natural because
it's only been six months, will fall into place over
(18:47):
the end of twelve to eighteen months. I give you certainty.
And what's great is that you got external confirmation for
that person and that person who know this process. And
then how does that impacted your sense of self? Like?
So here you are, everyone would argue, can't get any
more confidence? ROSA. I mean, sit up there high Hi,
How does it go? Do you think that it's that?
(19:10):
If there's that it has, has it changed your way
of being in terms of how you're intimate or how
you feel or how how has it impacted your life?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I listen, I love it, and I unless And it's
funny because people will never think that I can get insecure.
And even though my breas there were not bad, I
will wear clothes and unless I'm taping like crazy, I'm
wearing a bra that I cannot if I'm wearing a
dress that I cannot have a bra, I'm self conscious
about them looking like that.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
So I need to tape like crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You know that all these insecurities that people have no
idea that I was going through, right, only my style
is because she's the one taping it and all the
makeup part is I don't have to go through that anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
It feels it feels amazing. I'm just I just I
love it. I love it. And that's why I appreciate you,
is because that's what we need. That's the dialogue that
I wish they'll remain nameless of individuals who are listen.
When you are in the public eye comes with incredible advantages,
and then it comes with a lot of burdens. Yeah,
(20:11):
and they just come hand in hand. And the burdens
are that I have to kind of speak the truth
because I'm taking advantage of sort of a certain and
I don't have as much, say privacy. I've always felt
this way about you can't be a celebrity, reap all
the rewards and then just when it comes to other things,
just be like, I don't know what you're talking about.
So what's great is like you want to have another
(20:31):
young woman who is just a regular person looking save
Rosalind's Hanchez, who is stunning and beautiful and successful and
blah blah blah blah, is sitting there before an event
and go, fuck, I don't know what, make sure that
doesn't shoot this way and she is conscious of something
on herself, and I'll be it as minor as it was.
That I'm okay to also be a little self conscious
(20:54):
because that's normal. That's just like how human beans. You know,
I hate I'm starting to develop like a hollow onder
my mind. What are you talking about? You're a guy,
you look great. That's not what I'm That's not the point.
If it bothers me exactly. Yeah, And so I think
that's that's fantastic, and that's awesome that you have participated
in that, because I just I give you a lot
(21:14):
of kudos. And I want to talk about the part
that always fascinated me, which is I get up, I
go to get coffee, then I come to work and
no one's taking a photo of me. I don't have
to step out of this door and all of a
sudden be like fuck they just no one gives a shit.
I'm not that important. No one's taking photos of me.
(21:34):
But if I had to, then I would constantly have
to worry about every moment of every shot, everything, because
that's just a reality. And you know, someone can take
a photo of you and then make this and that
in a billboard and all of a sudden you have
to do damage. So I'm curious to know how you
have navigated. You know, you're fifty. You look fantastic, you
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look normal, you look natural, you look relatable, and how
one navigates being fifty because things starting to happen now
you're like, fuck, you're an actress. So there's a high
demand in their photos being taken a view and then oh, yeah,
that's right, I'm Latina and there's a super demand within
that culture, more so than if you were, as I
(22:16):
mentioned you in Irish. So I think I'm gonna ask
what most people are wondering, because you know, the world
is so in it's alpos an infatuation. It's such a
fascinating concept to me. People aren't infatuated with scientists. Someone
gives a shit, who came up with a cure for
about There's something about humanity that is so interested, so
fascinated into entertainers and celebrityism. And it's interesting because that
(22:40):
because that dovetails very nicely into plastic surgery, because people
are so fascinated with that. Yeah, and so with that
fascination comes a lot of pressure. If you're in that
space again, benefits and pressure. So you know, when you're thirty,
it kind of bullet roof. You know, you're young, you're pretty,
(23:02):
you got it all. And then you know, a celebrities
career spans often eighty years, and there's the middle part. Yeah,
the transition from the thirty year old you to the
seventy year old you where you're just like, you know,
you're Meylstrip and no one gives a shit and you
don't be you left alone.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
That's there was a point that there was the points
zero one.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Percent, but the middle part that transitioned from thirty to
forty to fifty to sixty, that gap, there's a tremendous
amount of internal pressure and dialogue from the outside, from
your friends or whatever. So let's give me a little bit
of insight as to what it's like for you and
the pressures you do or don't feel, and from what
direction it comes in, how you manage It's a big,
(23:43):
big concept, but I want to just talk about it.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I feel it every single day, every single corner, every
single conversation. Granted, I've been pretty bull aproof of my
whole life. You know, in terms of like a very
I've had incredible, a beautiful, constant career with longevity, and
I have the ability to just go out, don't care,
I don't can, don't care, and just I just move
forward and I don't care about the elements.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I'm just gonna move forward. And I've been pretty lucky.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
I'm pretty pretty blessed.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I'm not gonna lie if I tell you that. Now,
I don't know if it is because this business is changing,
even though people believe, you know, there's so much content,
there's almost streaming like there's a lot of opportunities, you know,
not really you know there is, but there isn't. And
especially now with all the strikes and everything that is happening,
(24:32):
things are slowly not a bit. You know, when networks
were picking up whatever, twenty something projects, now they do
They only gren like three, right, So it's very competitive.
It's very difficult. And the equation that the fact that
I've been doing it for so long, there's always this
thing about I wonder if they feel like I'm like,
(24:53):
it's a fresh idea to have me right, you know,
because I always thought so myself, as I it doesn't
matter my age.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
I'm bulletproof I'm always gonna be fresh.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Now it's like, oh, they know my age, they know
that I've been doing it for so long. Maybe I'm
not fresh anymore. So I have this pressure to look fresh.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
To look younger, to stay current. Do you think that
that and that's beautifully said because people don't understand that
from that window. Do you think that's the way the
rest of your friends and colleagues in Celebritism feel the
idea to stay fresh and relevant for sure? Right? Because
that's exactly how I think it's okay, So then now
tell me what you how you manage it?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Like I said, I just have to I just have
to keep moving. I don't have any other way to
manage it, because if I get too much in my
head about it, then I'm gonna I That's one insecurities,
And you know, actors, by nature, we're very insecure for sure,
where my act like we're not, and the perception of
people is that we own the world, that we are
way untouchable.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
We are incredibly insecure.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Makes total sense.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
It doesn't matter who tells you I'm fine, it doesn't
affect me, doesn't affect me.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It's a lie.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
That's why you see that ninety five percent of them,
the ones that are my age and in their forties
and the older, they're starting to look very different, for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
And this is exactly and it's all pressure, that's exactly.
It isn't This is exactly what I'm talking about. This
is the thing that you're like, oh my god, did
you see what so and so did to her face?
Oh my god, do you see so and sos violates?
Did you see so? You know, we can bring up
Madonna or whoever. Everyone is trying to stay relevant, trying
to even though even though their talent hasn't changed. Her
(26:34):
singing hasn't changed, your acting has changed. It's the idea
that my shell is changing. Some of that is the
fact that you're just aging, yeah, but a lot of
it has to do with the outside pressure.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
So look on social media is we're bom bombarded constantly
with aesthetics and the definition of what is.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Beautiful, right, and everything is ever changing, you know, like
the full body became a thing. Now back to skinny
is a thing. The Christ with those and everybody wants
to look a specific way and that's gonna go away
within a couple of years for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
And the booty is gonna come back, but it's just
trying to catch up.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I mean, okay, I'm not that, but let me if
I'm manipulent myself this way, maybe I can be like
it is a constant game and if you're not very strong.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Can destroy you.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
To be honest with one hundred percent. And that's exactly
why this is so relevant because you're not Oh but
she's pretty. No, that's not what this has. It has
a zero to do. It has been with the mental,
mental fortitude. It's not as if Okay, so let's back
up here. So you had mentioned to me that you
you feel it isn't You're not feeling pressure from your agent.
You're feeling pressure from your friends. Right, it's like your age.
(27:40):
It's not like your agent. You're looking at a little snow.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I'm not only those those agents exist. But I've been
doing this for thirty years. I've never gotten a phone
call from a manager or lawyer, an agent or a
publicist saying, Russ, I think you need to do this.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
When it comes asthetics, it's your friend, it's your call.
It's the other one. So tell me what you hear.
So tell me what are the conversation inner dialogue. You
didn't need to name anybody but.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Give, he said, I just didn't myself.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
This thing is funny because, like I swear to you,
I've never been when it comes to my face, I've
never had an issue with anything. And people have said
to me, you have a nose job.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I never don't.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I've never touched my nose if I had. If I had,
it was the worst nose in the hyst.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
You know. They always said, yeah, I did you. I
have patients to come in it because I do a
lot of noses. Did you is that you didn't know?
Jobout like a I'd ask for my money back. I too.
I too. That means like my cannot be the outcome
that I asked for.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I was like, no, guys, it looks like a nose job.
I'm unaware of that because this has all these different angles.
But no, it's not. And anybody and if I did,
I would. I'm the first one to say I fixed
my and I freaking love it, you know. But that's
not the case. But but when it comes to my face,
I have never had an issue.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I want to patg you.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
In Puerto Rico when I was twenty one, years old
and the next day the first thing, I think, I'm
the only beautiful Wien in the island that has not
touched anything about her right, no implants, no surgeries.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I want the thing they said to me. I was
twenty one years old.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
They said to me, Yeah, to anyone, they said, we
want to fix your nose and do because I was
flat food breasts.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
And I said, as a as a winner, like that's
your I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
And the beauty pageant world, that's it's part of the
glam Yeah, it's it's part of the allure and the
fantasy of.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
It all that these girls are produced to look unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, I mean that's a whole different anal of itself
because your your talent is your beauty.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Of course, but I want and I was like, I know,
nobody's touching my face.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I'm not doing anything. Now fast forward.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I'm fifty right, it's buddy, So I've never had a
problem with my face at all. And then I see
a good friend no wide, she's an actress, beautiful, and
she's looking unbelievable. But I cannot really figure out what
is that is what is happening?
Speaker 1 (29:45):
But it's so well done. Right. Then I keep looking
at her. I we like sisters.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
And then finally I just said, I think it's this
the lips. And I call and I said, listen, you
can tell me to f off, but who they do
because it's just perfection. I wasn't sure, right, And She's like,
oh my.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
God, that's so funny. I just dated. We had a
whole conversation about it.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Never in a million years I've had a problem with
my mouth and my lips.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Never.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I've always known that my upper lip it's a little
like I don't it doesn't work like.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
This, right, but never writ it.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Never, And I am now at fifty years old, thinking.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
I wonder if I just do here.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
And I but then I just go ros what don't start?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So it's so so interesting You're you're I want to
I want to have this conversation because you're this is
a this is almost an experiment like a Petri dish.
We don't get access to this often, right, because you
never get to talk to the person before they did
anything or as they're about to do something. So you're
like right at the train station. So so this is
a great conversation because you're going to have the evil
(30:54):
devil and the you're gonna have the why not? Ros
you're changing, You're in the industry, stay relevant, you can
do it. It can look natural, right, you have that,
and at the same time that's the guy going go
for it, and then you have the you haven't needed it.
There's nothing wrong with you had you not seen it.
Everyone thinks you look amazing. Yeah, so that duality exists
in everyone. What I would tell you, as as you
(31:16):
were friend and expert have is that. And I had
a friend of mine who asked me, is the time
to do something is the time wherein which you personally
feel that the item that you're concerned about bothers you
so much that it consumes your thoughts at all time
(31:40):
when you're present in that moment. So give an example.
Your breast when you were intimate, when you were wearing
your clothes, when you were on stage, was becoming a problem,
and it was something that was bothering you, the same
thought process you had because you haven't actually internal you
you you didn't just I don't like my breast surgery
next week. You let it simmer and simmer and cook
(32:00):
and simmer and simmer, and it bothered me. Ten percent.
This year bothers me twenty seven percent. This year's bothering
me thirty eight percent. And there will be and there
might be a point in which internally it bothers you enough.
The key and this is the thing that you have
to be very careful that external photos. Friend, don't push that,
accelerate that quickly, because with your breast you didn't have
(32:22):
an external pressure. It wasn't like you looked at Susie's
bresure like, holy shit, her breaths better than mine. I
need mine done. This lip thing was because you're like, wow,
that looks good.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, but it's problematic to think that because I don't
need it at all at all, And I know that
my soul knows that, right.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I've been for fifty years like this. Everybody thinks I'm
very pretty, you know, I mean, like I don't need it.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
But is the constant in.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
My face, in my face, in my face, of all
these images of all this girl's older and younger and
my age doing it.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Some look fantastic, some don't, but.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
It is so in my face. And I think that's
why young girls don't have the maturity to be like
I don't need it.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I they jump, No, no question that they don't. You have.
What happens is you have an internal sense of self.
I am good and so when the wind blows, you
kind of just sway, but you don't move. When you're twelve, twenty,
you're nineteen, you're twenty one, and you may even have
you haven't done shit. You have no confidence, per se,
(33:24):
and you see these images and whatever. There's no way
you're You're just a twig. You're getting blown away. There's
no you don't stand a chance, and so everyone is
doing it. Now do you think that you feel yet
a more additional sense of pressure because you're Latina? Do
you think that that Latina component Because and I'll tell
you why. You know, like a third of my practice
(33:46):
is Latinos, right, you know, I mean fluent in Spanish.
I've been to a million, Like, I'm very entrenched in
the Latina community, and there is similar to the African
American community community in their own right, but Lattinos, because
they're Fuego, they have this culture. It's really a lot
of I don't want to say pressure per se because
it's a beautiful thing too. I've had like sixty five
(34:09):
year old woman come in and be like I want
to do my breast because for my husband. Not in
a bad way, everyone don't freak out, but in a
good way, like I'm want to stay relevant. We want
to feel sexy. But it adds extra pressure. And you're
you're very much immersed in the Latina community a lot
of your career. Do you feel that that it's a
little extra chili pepper on top of it?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, I think so, And I don't know if if
every Latina is going to appreciate the comment. You know
that that I'm affirming that one hundred percent. Being Latina
Puerto Rican, there's an element of that. I think Latino
women will love to compete with each other. You know,
it's not so much about me. It's about this female
(34:51):
against female type of component that I have won over you.
I look better than you. I'm not saying it in
a negative way. No, No, it's I'm a girl's girl, and
I love my Latina's or my good friends. It's funny
like I do what I think at my house and
everybody goes all yours are beautiful.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I'm not insecure.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I don't have a problem like all the people that
are like you know, and let me just be the queen.
I love beautiful women, I love beautiful men. You know something,
He's like, I love ites sthetics, but I think as
a Latina. Yeah, it's it's it's ingrained.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
We like we like to look good. It's part of
our sexuality, sensuality. It's like we taught like that. That's
why you go to Columbia. It's like, it's funny, I
went to Columbia to do this thing that I told
you right when I when they appended the pencil test,
what everything? And I remember that I said, I want
to go to a mall, but I don't want to
go to the fan symore. I just want to see culture.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I just want to go to a normal right.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
And I'm there and I'm walking. Granted I just had
a baby and breastfeeding. I feel like the freaking bomba
of Columbia. But I'm walking and every single women, even
the ugly ones, were beautiful. And what is this normal
that even the like the unattractive one is pretty?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Dan me, what is happening in this country? You know?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
And it's a lot of Venezuela, you know, it's a
lot of pressure. I'm gonna give an example my mom.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
My mom is the most humble, simple Puerto Rican lady
in the world.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
She's five to one. She's always been chobby. You know,
my mom doesn't care about money, cure, peticures, facials. She
doesn't even know what that is, going to the to
the beautiful lot. That vocabulary doesn't exist. I'm just a mom.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I'm here for my.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Children and I just don't need to call for my husband,
you know, like very I was not allowed to be
that at my house ever, Like I was not allowed
to go to the pharmacy if I got my period
and I need to go buy a freaking tampon, right,
and she will see me go out without lipstick, without
without lips, No momentito and put some lipstick on.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Mama, just gonta go to hermacy lipstick. My entire life,
my mom.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
It was almost like she was living her life through me,
Like this is not who I was, but this is
who I'm tyberate, well, they but.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
She probably wanted you to meet a beautiful man and
live a good life. And the idea, and it's a
traditional idea that still exists. My mom did it for
my sister. And my mom thought tooth and nail. My
mom's a beautician, cosmetologist, hairdresser, makeup artist. My mom's eighty
three still has impeccable sopheel. Her and my mom were like,
(37:27):
mm hmm, she wears heels at eighty three. She won't
leave the house to go to the grocery store. Done.
My sister could give rats, ass, sweats, flip flops. Leave
me alone, not important to me. Can you imagine the
amount of And my sister was like dating guys. She's like,
you look like a corpse. Put on some blush for
the love of God, and then it would make my
sister piss. She's like, leave me alone. I don't want to.
(37:47):
So I get that idea. And it's natural that you
want your daughter to look.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
And you know what's interesting is almost like and listen,
I never thought my mom it will bug me. It's
like almost like people say, like, how come you become
like you alwaysknew you wanted to be a forward? And
I say, it was all my mom. And my mom
is leaving through me. But she was very blessed because.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
I loved it. So it wasn't like no, you know,
I mean, it was like she was a stage mom.
But I can't.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
I can't say, you know what, this is not what
I wanted to do, but for the pressure, you know,
my I'm like I loved it at how lucky, but
it's now I have a daughter and not in a
myth listen, and this is when I have to be
like Ross. You have to break cycles right and allow
her to be she is. My daughter is just beautiful girl.
She's eleven years old, Sabella, and she is a tennis player.
(38:35):
She's being athletic, sure, very sporty sports and she wants.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
To be leggings and a T shirt and a hat,
you know, because she's.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
By the way, that's the new culture, Allo culture. You
may literally go to a black tie event without you.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
You know how foreign that is to me because my
vision was I'm gonna have a little girl number one.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
She's gonna be a belle. She's gonna be in a
tw tuna ballerine. My wife, My wife is expressed.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
You know what of my my is gonna be this
perfect little girl and she's gonna be like this girly girly,
girly girling. That's all I thought it was gonna happen, right, Sabella,
is I'm going to be exactly who you are not
It is a correct right, right. So the more makeup
I use, the less she wants to like, So, can
(39:18):
you put some chapstick your lips? Loop?
Speaker 1 (39:20):
They're gonna fall over a wrap.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
No, Sabella, We're gonna go to this dinner. It's kind
of fancy. And she will come out and I'll be like,
are you joking?
Speaker 1 (39:28):
She's got her she's got her correct and I'm going
I am gonna go crazy.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
And now I'm starting to understand, you know what ross
she is who she is, You know, it doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
It's not who you want to be. She's gonna live
the best version of her life and support her is.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
But what my mom would have never allowed that.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
That's a different culture, you know, the truth of man.
My wife, My wife was a tom boy. She did
jiu jitsu. Her mom wanted to do ballet. She did
you know, she racked, she ran track and feel and
her mom wanted to replay do piano. My wife ended
up being a model. She's five eleven. She eventually on
her own boomerang back and decided she wanted to be
girly and whatnot. But she lived that period of her
(40:13):
time on her own terms and she'll find her way.
But the one thing that's unique about Latino community, and
I'll mention this to you because that's why I'm You
cannot turn on the TV, a telenovella, a game show
and everyone isn't super hot. They haven't caught up to
American standards of like you know, in America, it's inclusiveness.
(40:34):
So you're gonna have every shape, color size, you know,
it doesn't matter if your it just we have to represent.
So every color rainbow is gonna be Latinos are like
hell with that, but it's beon off, she's hot. That
why the woman is smoking.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
On The newest casters like like hard news and they
look like barbies.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
I think it's brilliant. Yeah, they very smart. I'm not
taking away from their capacity. I'm just saying that I
actually love about the Latino community is that they're still
hardwired and that you gotta be good. No one's gonna
give you a pass, but you gotta look to it.
We're not gonna put you on stage your repre, you'ren't
gonna be our our newscaster. And as you said, look
(41:15):
like oompa loompus. So I think that you know, it's
really fascinating because you know, you have you have all
these internal pressures and then you have this daughter and
you have to balance all these things out in terms
of what's right for me, what should I shouldn't I do?
Is it because I want to? Is it because I'm
being told? Am I gonna be my mom? Or I'm
gonna let her be? And it's all those dynamics. And
(41:38):
I do think the fact that you're an actress and
that you're a Latina change. Those are dynamics that every
move woman is going to experience in today. Nobody nobody
walks out of the house and doesn't feel the pressure.
But it's it's significant when you're there's an example that
does happened. So there's a movie right with this guy.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
He's probably in his mid fifties.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
You know, he's aldo the main doing it really well.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
And I guess they had a girl that fell through,
like like the deal didn't work out. So there were
the female leads. They were looking for a girl and
she didn't want her to be Latina. So my manager
knows a producer, and he was like, you know, I'm
very excited ross persisting this movie. And I pitched you,
and they're like.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
All over it.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
They love the idea, they think it'll be fantastic. Uh,
they do have another person in mind. I don't know
how to pronounce her name, said another Latina, and he
tells me the name. She's super hot at the moment, right,
but she's probably late twenties.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
That's I mean, you can you pitch a twenty in
late twenties to late fifties the same. So I'm like, oh,
oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
She is just beautiful and she's actually really good.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
So I'm not mad at that.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
I understand why, you know, between this one and this one,
and let me go with the younger, more, the one
that is more the eat girl at the moment, sure,
but against the fifty year old correct.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
That was my sacond point. This freaking.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Environment did this business and this way of doing things
that he's always been like this because you never see
an old man with somebody that is contemporary.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Have very few of those movies get made.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
And they're like the old old old eye on old timers. No,
but even the Denzels and the de Neros, they all
tend to go they want to go younger.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
So this girl, I can be her mom.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
And it's interesting because if you see me next to her,
you will never think I am toenty something news older?
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah ever, you know ever?
Speaker 2 (43:27):
But I am, and they know my age and I've
been around longer, so of course I didn't get it right,
which is okay, you know, like I said, I'm a fan.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
She's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
But those are the moments when you go, Okay, what
do I need to do right?
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Or or you say, ah, fuck, I gotta find a
different role that works for me, because I can tell
you it's an aesthetic surgeon. If you sat here, let's
let's let's let's break it. If you sat here and
I was looking at you and you're sagging, you had
a ton of eyelid skin, you're hollow in your mid face,
(44:04):
you had a bunch of jows, and you had neck bands.
I mean I wouldn't do it on stage. I'd pull
you aside back ros it's time And you can tell
me go fuck yourself, but I tell you it's time
because it's time.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
You don't have to do it, but you have arrived,
but you're not there. You don't have saggy brows, a
bunch of eyelid, skin, hollowness in your mid face, and
a bunch of neck bands. You will it'll happen. You're lucky,
you have great genetics, you've taken good care of yourself,
and you're later in the way. Then you go, this
is just a matter of logistics that didn't work out
(44:37):
this season't because you're not comparable in terms of your shell.
There will be a time where you will consider it
and it may be apropos. But now it's not the time.
And that's the secret sauce to do it when it
makes sense, not because you missed the role.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
But I have a question for you, because I keep listening,
I could hear in this and then correct to me.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
If what I'm hearing is what you're gonna ask me,
should I tell you what it is that you should
do things? Early before said okay, that's ship you hear.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
That.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
If I'm the psidekick, I would not be sitting here.
I'd be stealing people's fucking bank account numbers or something. No,
because you're gonna do that? True that they say, you
know what the meani? What is the MENI face mini face?
It does over here and you also do it now
don't do it in the sixties. Do it. So let
me explain something to you. I just did a post
on this in our Instagram. Okay. What we're talking about
is being lost in translation. There's a difference between doing
(45:34):
things early as they occur, meaning they're there, they're just
not bad off, and then doing things before they occur. Okay,
So listen very carefully, show you understand the message is
being jumbled up, which is historically and let's use faces
for an example. It can be anything. It can be anything,
(45:54):
but they's take faces because it's a great example in
the historic ethos. You did your facelift in your sixties
or later sixties and seventies or one. Okay, things have
changed and now we're doing facelifts in mid to late
forties and fifties. Okay, so let's just say that your
(46:15):
face has eight. Listen, listen, you've let's say you've aged,
and your face amount of the way it's changed is
an eight. It looks as an eight. Ten being your
great great grandmother, one being your daughter. Okay, so ten
horrible sad everything. One your your daughter. So we used
to wait till your face is around an eight. Everything
(46:36):
we talk about was just really bad, like it was
really bad. And what we're saying now, and remember there's
a lot of marketing behind this because it's better for
us surgeons, is rather than doing it when it's eight,
how about doing it when it's five or four? Okay, right.
What patients are interpreting that is, let me do it one.
It's a two. A two means it hasn't even happened yet.
(46:59):
And so what you do is when you're you are
different than Jake, Your friends are all different. That forty
five year old needs it, This fifty year old doesn't
need it. What it is is when your neck bands
start to occur, you're starting, your jowling is starting, and
your marionette is starting, and you're starting to hollow, which
(47:19):
is if you're your daughter's a one, your great grandmother's
a ten. You went from a two to a three,
and now it's or five and you're like, oh shit.
That is the discussion of whether or not you should
do it at a four or five, or you should
do it at traditional eight. The answer to that is
who are you? Are you the person that fills your
tank of gas when it's like halfway full, because it's
(47:42):
a good good good, like a good gas station. You
don't know when the next one is or are you
that person's like, fuck it, I'm just gonna drive until,
like I don't even need gas for a while. Yeah,
that's personality. But what you never want to do is
get so forced into it that you're doing it at
a two dash three and you're just that's what you're feeling.
And so definitely, definitely there is this notion that you
(48:02):
should and from an actress standpoint, the sooner you do it,
the less dramatic it is. Meaning one day you are nate,
you show up back on camera the next time and
you're a five or four. WHOA what happened to so
and so and so. As an actress, you feel that
pressure more to kind of do it as it's occurring.
I'm starting to have eyelid excess skin. Fuck it, let
(48:25):
me just take a little the skin out, my browsers
starting to settle, let me lift it. So you're right
in that that is, but I think it's being way
over expressed. You know what.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
What scares me sometimes I don't know, I don't know
if every actress or every woman that has a daughter
or has daughters, right think about this, especially a daughter
like mine, that is so she's eleven with the mind
of a thirty something. There's so mature nowadays, you know,
and they attention, they see everything. There's model on us.
(48:55):
And it's so important to me that this girl grows
up so secure of her and comfortable with her in
her own skin and understanding that. And I don't want
to sound.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Cliche, but.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
The soul is more important than anything, you know what
I mean. I just wanted to be a.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Good human being one hundred percent, and I just think,
what if I allow myself to drink the kool aid
and then this feel like I have to make all
these changes while she's observing me and she sees the changes.
I don't want her for one second to be like
you know, when my mom didn't think she was enough,
so then she went cook when she started doing all
these things, and now she doesn't feel she doesn't look
(49:33):
exactly like the girl, the woman that I remember as
my mom five years ago.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
I don't want that to happen.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
So you have echoed what many, many, many, many women
have said, which is I don't want to send the
wrong message I can. So the answer to that is
as follows transparency. You need to have an open dialogue
with your daughter at the right times, in the way
that you feel most comfortable sharing your thought processes, your concerns,
(49:59):
the things you see. You know, I'm starting to notice this,
and mom feels a lot of pressure when you can't
tell her when she's seven, But when you're like thirteen, fourteen,
you're gonna start having this die. Like, listen, you're amazing
and you're beautiful, and you are enough. But I am
this person and I'm changing, and I have these needs
and this is what my work is and I'm doing
it for myself and my career. You can have that
(50:19):
dialogue and then she'll then understand, because you aren't crazy
if you did it in a vacuum and you just
all of a sudden came up with duck lips and
she's like, Mom, what are you doing? Well, you know
I was at this fall and I so so forgive me.
I'm not you, and I don't have a daughter, and Mike,
I haven't had procedures. I just want to be responsible.
(50:40):
But I think I think my personal opinion is responsibly
comes through discussion and dialogue. Yeah, and that there's a
time and a place for different things, for different people,
and that I think that that can set So I.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
Wonder how a lot of these girls that are like influencers,
you know that.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
That have they screw up there. They destroyed these young girls's.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
Life and moms as well, and they they they don't
look like the same, Like, I wonder what is the
conversation they're having they're not.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
And so as a response, and I said this, and
we'll wrap with this, is that with all these burdens,
you also have these responsibilities. And the first thing I
said to you is kudos for you. You can you're reaping
the benefits of your fame and you're also falling on
your sword and having a dialogue about abreastive which is
relatively it to me. It's like you need to tell
anybody about your breast being flat or wiser, but you're like,
(51:29):
fuck it, I you know, this is part of who
I am as this is my job. And so these
fake influencers and a lot of these so called celebrities
that are cowards hide behind that. And what they do
is they send these messages to these people who may
not have the ability to make that distinction. So it's
all about the dialogue. Yeah, it's about the dialogue, which is, hey,
(51:52):
I'm someone you follow, I'm someone you aspire to. Number One,
I have insecurities number two myself. Here is why. And
then you de escalated and people can clarify. But these
filters and all these things, everyone's messed up. Everyone's brain
is mush, all these young people are and all you
have a responsibility to do is your daughter and your
(52:14):
fan base. And you've done a great job, all right,
So I know everybody's gonna want to hear more of this,
so we'll maybe have to invite you over again and
put on this whole show again. Thank you for the show, Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
but that's such a great time. And I love spending
time with you. You're just such a pleasure to be around
and and I'm happy for you that the surgery worked
(52:36):
out well, and just thank you, thank you for bringing
on our show. So, guys, that's gonna wrap up another
episode of plastic surgery on Censored. You know what I
always end with two things. One, if you like our show,
share it with people that you think might benefit from it.
You just never know what who's gonna do what. And
next thing, you know, they're gonna look like Madonna. You're
gonna wish they had sent you that you had sent
them the show. The second is write something nice. Everybody
(52:59):
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If you love the show, you find it interesting, go
write something nice to people who put the show together,
love to read it, and we will be grateful. That's it.
That's another rap. That's another episode of plastic surgery and
censored until next week. I'm your host, Doctor Rodder Raban.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
Bye bye bye
Welcome to another episode of Plastic Surgery and Centered. I'm
your host, Doctor Roddy Rabon, and what a show we
have for you. That's right. I am honored to have
a fred a dear friend, Roslin Sanchez. That's right, ladies
and gentlemen, a true famous person on the show. So
why this show is going to be great is we're
gonna do two things that I think you're gonna find
(00:28):
super super interesting. One, we're actually going to talk about
her own journey, and then two we're gonna talk about
somebody that I always find so fascinating so interesting. Is
we all from the outside wonder what it's like to
be within the world of Hollywood, the good, the bad,
the ugly. And now we're going to get a first
hand encounter and discussion from Rosalind about her perspective being fifty,
(00:51):
being Latina, and being an actress. So you're gonna want
to listen in because it's going to be a super
super excellent show. Roslin, yes, bin Benilo, Yes, Benita. Oh no,
we'll do the Spanish version another time. Welcome to the show.
Thank you, We're so grateful to have you. And uh,
(01:14):
it's been such a wonderful journey getting to know you.
You know, I think everybody has all these people think
they know people, people think they know me, people think
they know you, people think they know anyone who they
see or wonder, And it turns out that the overwhelming
majority of times what you think isn't necessarily very accurate,
and often you're so pleasantly surprised, and you have been
(01:37):
super awesome and lovely and wonderful. So let's talk about specifically,
how long has it been since you and I since
you had your surgery?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
How long has it been January thirtieth January June twenty something,
about six months yea or less of that.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So, and we did a breast reduction. I'm very tiny.
It was more of a lift correct And that's excellent
because we're going to talk about that because I think
when you first came, and this is such an important part, yep,
there's a lot of misunderstandings about what it does and
who does what. But I remember having met you a
few times, eh, meaning you would come for a bunch
of consults, which is super customary. Everyone thinks you just
(02:16):
decide like, oh, I want to have a procedure, and
then you just show up to that. That's not how
this works. You you contemplate, you think about it, you say, oh,
I'm and so for you, because you were blessed with
fuller breasts, and you're a very flat, gat very thin,
and very elegant and also very athletic woman, you had
found that your rests were starting to become like they
(02:37):
were falling. They were falling probably kids.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
If you had I have two kids, two kids, did
you breastfeed both five months?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
The first three months the second? Correct? And you are
now forty nine, I'm fifty fifty. I was my.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
First baby, I was thirty eight, the second one forty four.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Got it. And so everybody, even actresses, even actors, even
everybody's body chain is the same. We're all the same.
Some people are lucky, they're genetically blessed, but no one
is going to be able to get away without the
changes that occur. So a woman who's fifty, who's had
(03:13):
two children, whose breast fed two children, will naturally a
lose volume in most instances, sometimes gay, and almost always
will have some dependency or sag of their breast, which
then creates issues of wardrobe and back aches and exercise
and things So let's start with what was bothering you.
So here you are, everyone looks at you and says,
oh my god, she looks spectacular, and you're thinking you're
(03:36):
a fark. I don't want I don't feel like that, right,
So what was it that was bothering?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
It was just that they felt.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
And it's interesting that you said that I was blessed
because I had a like like a full breast right,
But my whole life, I always I was a thirty
four A my whole life, I was kind of a
very super Tinian thought.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Then I had Sabella, my first one, and I went
to a.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
C right and then or like a B plus or something,
and they was so pretty. I'm going, okay, I can
work with this, and I have, for whatever reason, my breast.
All my friends that were moms were said after breastfeeding.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
They were dealing down.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
They looked like raisins, And I'm going, that's interesting because.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Mine grew while I was pregnant. I had my.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Baby, I breastfed, and they never came down. They're actually
bigger and we okay, no problem. Then I have dialing
at forty four, they grew even more, never went down,
and I kept seeing like, my God, my breast keeps
keeps growing even though I'm the same weight, I'm back
to my pre pregnancy weight. So I was very confused
and I was not used to it. And I grew
up dancing ballet. I was a balerina my whole life,
(04:37):
so I want to be flat.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
So I was like, I don't understand somebody with the
body I want to water.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
But anyways, and then my mom, funny enough, had four kids,
was flat, and my mom was very flat and ninety
eight pounds when she got married, and my mom had
a reduction after having all the interesting but I don't
have my mom's body type at all, so I never
thought in a million years that might happen to me.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Then after Dyland, I was like, I wonder if I'm
gonna be like my mom? And then you explain to me, Funny,
you know that? So I like fifteen percent of women.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
But I was just saying about this is an arbitraging
about twenty percent of women, instead of experiencing what eighty
percent experiences that I start out a I had my
first child, they shrunk. I had my second child, they shrunk.
I had Yeah, twenty percent of patients fifteen twenty they
find their breastket bigger, bigger, and listen. My husband loved it.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I was like, you know what, it doesn't look bad,
but I was not used to it. And then of
course they're.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Bigger, sure, but they're falling. Of course, not horrific, no,
but it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Because I'll never ever forget.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I did a TV.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Show in my first time acting in Spanish and I'd
go to Columbia to do a TV show and Sabella
was three and a half months. I was in the
middle of breastfeeding and we do an episode that it
was like this whole there was like a comedy, like
a big comedy. The challenge of the pencil, meaning that
if you can put a pencil.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Which we talked about all in the pencil test falls right,
there is time for you to fix your preass and if.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
It doesn't fall, if it.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yes, And I was like at that moment, because it
was Justabella right and I was still breastfeeding, I was like,
and then I do that, I'll never forget. I'm home
and I see my left breast and I was like,
let me see what they're Yeah, for sure it's going
to stay and I grabbed this eyeliner.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And that shit stays, and you're like, google what And
I will to my days in Columbia laughing about it too.
I don't know if I want to be like this
and listen, they were not bad, like you ask my husband.
He was like, you're crazy, You're crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
But I was like, it's.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
They can be a little better, right, they can be
a little better, and I think it's going to make
me happier.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Nobody sees it, you know what I mean, But it's
just it was. It was an issue with me, myself.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And I one hundred percent, and that's what we talked
about on a regular basis. Actually, on a couple of
shows pass we had a kind of a individual who
is sort of she hates a term, but it's a
life coach type person, and she's trying to address the
fact that people want to feel good and confidence through
getting things done. I was trying to tell her, yeah,
but there is a component of confidence that comes from
(07:16):
the way you see yourself. And it doesn't matter if
your husband or your boyfriend, or your or your wife
or your parents tell you you're perfect, because it's the
way we perceive ourselves and so Okay, so that happened, which,
by the way, for everyone is normal. I had a
bunch of kids. My breasts either got bigger smaller, but
they almost sag. And then you and I met and
we started chatting about it. And I remember having this
(07:37):
conversation with you, and I why I want to highlight
this is I think this is really important for people
to understand, because you had a very specific goal. And
I remember you're like, I want them lifted because there's
kind of heavy and they sag, and I want them smaller.
And I said to you, and I remember that because
you're flakat, you're nice in pain, you're athletic, and you're
used to smaller breasts, right, And you felt I would
(07:58):
feel better on my body. And I said, I have
no problem with that. I don't care. I'm not speaking.
I didn't get a phone call from Eric. But I
think if you reduce your breast too much, while they
may feel great, they may not look great. Okay, And
people are like, what does that mean. It's there's a frame,
and geometrically, in order to create a pretty breast, you
(08:19):
need some projection, and depending on the frame, after a
certain point of removing tissue, you get kind of flatter.
And I said, I think you should lift and remove
a little tissue. And I said, no, remove, and You're like,
I'd like to remove more tissue. And we kind of
did the stance a few times and then I won no.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Then I went on on the stakes I needed whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Needless to say, we did a lift, absolutely, and in
that process removed some breast tissue. But I think when
you had said afterwards, like, wow, they seem smaller or
they look a little bit smaller, even though we didn't
remove that much tissue.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
It was there were like right after the reveal rather
revealed they're big, of course.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And I was like, oh my god, I look like
I have implants.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Right. My husband's like, you look like you have it plansant.
I'm going, this is wow. Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
And then now they settled and they look small. I
love it, he says, you know they're smaller. I'm going, yeah,
that's what I want it.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You know, I'm happy. I would have done even less,
to be honest, I know, but I but that's where
I wanted to talk about it. Yeah, there is what
you want, which obviously is a huge part of what
we do this and then there is what's geometrically or
physically capable, which you explain to that. I know why
your surgeon is important in this, yeh, you know. And
this is an interesting part because this is going to
(09:36):
be a huge leap now. But if you look at
Michael Jackson, he was a celebrity. He went to surgeons
and I believe they did for him what he asked. Okay,
Whereas our job as physicians is irrespective if you're who
you are, is to give you the guidance that is
ideal for you, even if it's not what you want
(09:57):
to hear or what it is that you want. Yeah.
So why I say that is you came to me
and you said, listen, I'd like to be smaller, all
very good reasons. And I said to you that I
think from an esthetic standpoint, not from a lifestyle standpoint,
too much smaller would then lead to a breasts that
wouldn't be pretty, and we should come up with a compromise.
And I think that I'm happy that that's what we
ended up doing. Yeah, because yes, smaller would have been fine,
(10:20):
but they wouldn't look pretty. I assure you of that geometrically.
So I'm really really glad that it ended up doing
what you wanted it to do, which is I feel better.
I feel better my clothes, I feel lighter, I can
wear what I need to wear on set, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
The ship is beautiful, it because I was before I came.
I'm getting ready and I'm using this little tanto from
this store in Puerto Rico where I come from, Plea Dieto,
and it's like a little super like like a little tanto, right,
and I did it. I'm doing my makeup and I
don't have a bra, and I'm walking and as sweet.
It was the first time that it happens since the surgery,
and I've I've been very happy. This is the beginning
because they're beautiful. But I'm walking around and I walk
(10:57):
by this long mirror and I swear.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Listen, I don't wanna be conceeed, but I'm looking bike
shit that look good years because they look like perfect
and I.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Mean they were under the little thing, right, but just perky.
And I was like, oh my god, thank you Lord.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It's very beautiful.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
He was nice, yeah, And it's great and and and
that's what this is about. This is about a person
in the intimacy of their own moment, not when their
life partner tells them, but in their own moment to
sit there, look at themselves, their nose, their breasts, their belly,
their hair, their lipstick, their eyeliner, their dress, and go, wow,
(11:39):
I feel good. Yeah, I look, I look I look
fucking great. And then it resonates your interactions with your husband,
your kids, or when you're on stage. So that is
the epicenter of what we try to do, is generate
self confidence from looking at yourself like I look good.
So the what I really like is that, you know,
people talk about things when they are celebrities here and there,
(12:01):
and they tend to be very hush hush about it,
which less so now than before, but still so it's
really this weird juxtaposition. I give you mad props. You're like,
I did this, this is what I did, this is
how it is you talk about it. You've been on
your show, Eric got a little flak for just saying
something silly. And what I love that is it the
freedom in which you discuss it de escalates it and
(12:22):
makes it super normal because you are just like everybody else,
just another woman out there who's living their life. And
I always wondered if if I were a celebrity, just
by my nature, I would be the most transparent. That's
how I am. I just why would I lie about it?
I look amazing, my breasts act, I had a couple
of kids. I fixed it. I look great. Thank you
good buying it. Every bactly, it's like, move on and
(12:43):
there's no controversy there. But I think you did a
great thing for other people in terms of having the discussion,
because the more people that are of influence speak the truth,
the more normal other people will feel about it. So
that's awesome. There was a little funny moment there because
what a lot of people. There are two things that
(13:03):
people are afraid of when it comes to breast, not
to let's say a handful. Number one concern is that
they're gonna have horrific scars. Right, So that was right
up on your high if your that was like, that's
why it took me so long, right because it wasn't
that bad. You have breast down here, You're like, it's
a great easy is it easy trade? I gave you
the scars look horrible, that's way better than yeah, But
(13:25):
when your breast, nose, belly, whatever is borderline. If you will,
then sometimes you get stuck. You get stuck behind not
bad enough, and interestingly enought you live a shittier life,
meaning you don't like your belly as much, or your
eyes or your because it's not bad enough to justify it.
And you're like almost envious of your friends whose situation
(13:46):
is worse because it triggered the ability to do it.
But that's not true. Plastic surgery. Great plastic surgery is
the ability to do it mild, moderate, or severe. In
other words, your case was milder, and we did what
was necessary. And your concern was what if I have
horrific scars? What if like I did this and now
I have these frankent tine scars. It's a struggle. It
(14:07):
was a struggle.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And listen, I love my breast and you did an
incredible job with my incisions, right with my scars, But
I cannot wait, and I'm just being fully transpected if
I cannot wait until I look and they're barely there.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And when is that going to happen? That's going to
happen at eighteen months, twenty four months, et cetera. It
takes time. Now, not everyone's fate. And those individuals whose
breasts are done poorly or have bad outcomes or and
I'm just making it up, go to Miami to a
strip mall and then they are left with ugly outcomes.
(14:45):
Then they have to live with it forever. If it's
done correctly, the scars will be thin and flash and lightish,
and continuously the knob will continue to lighten and they
get darker. Right around in six months they start to lighten,
So they're gonna be a darker now. No, now you're you're
at your peakish whatever color. It is not dark, awesome
(15:08):
or dark whatever they are, OK. But my point being
is that all people heal like this. And what will
happen with you is we'll talk, We'll see each other
at eighteen months or two years, and you'll be like
then it will be light and fade and there will
be a moment I think, in particular with you, that
it'll be hardly perceptive. You know what's interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I go to Natalie's girl it does my facials, and
another lady, Irene that I love that does a lot
of like face treatments like ready frequency, you know, like this,
like whatever, and they see everything, you know, they they see.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
They're the hairdresser and the bar tender.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Exactly, you know, and they've seen like every celebrities and
non celebrities, like they've seen every breast, every tommy talk,
every face everything. Right there are both a lot of
people go to them and both of them, which I
was like, oh my god, thank you, Roddy.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
They know that I.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Did this procedure right. And I think last week I
went to one and like a month ago I went
to the other one.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
And I want to see.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I want to say, I'm going you're gonna see the cars,
but it's okay, and both of them, and it's interesting
because they always tell me we always brace ourselves. I say,
you know, and because the maturi of the type it's awful.
And I show them and they were like, oh my god, girl,
that's beautiful. You're gonna be fine. So you think this
car is gonna and they're like, oh my god. Both
of them that I know very well that would have
(16:21):
said to me, you wanted some laser you the inter
I mean that we're both like, oh, you're gonna be unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
And what's interesting is pointed perspective. You have pointed perspective
of just you, me or them or people who've seen
lots of because a lot of nowhere it is. And
then the other thing you asked me, and I remember
you were like, and I said, or better yet I
told you, I said, please, I beg you don't do
anything to anything until it's here. Now, are you sure
I shouldn't that? Laziered? Oh? Should I go do this? Cream?
(16:50):
Should I do this? Don't effing touch them? You will
ruin them because.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Because everybody else it's non a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Because what happened is they are trying to make up
for shitty scars by doing this laser and that cream
and this lotion and that, And first of all, it
doesn't work, because if it did, we'd have it like
we would not use it, Like if it made things better,
I'd have seven of those devices. Why not. Secondly, they're
trying to fill up the space of the unhappy patient,
(17:19):
so they're gonna do all these creams and lotions and potions,
at which time they're going like, well, Rosie, you don't
feel so well. How about you close like shit? How
about that alphabet? Mm hmm, oh you know your latina
you make dark scars because you're all, what, there's a
million reasons I can blame you, But how about you
just did a shitty job, bro. You just didn't close
(17:41):
layer by layer, time by time and execute the results
that necessary. So I'm very happy that you listen to
me and you have historically just said all right, all right,
because when you are have access to that's the biggest
problem I have now is when you have access to
all of this, it's a dangerous place because you don't know.
(18:03):
And we're going to talk about that in a second.
What to do? What not? Did you when to do it?
You know, for some people it's like getting access. For
someone like you, it's knowing what I should do, what
I shouldn't do, when to do it? Does that work?
Does that not work? Because you look out there you're like, wow,
Jane Finder looks amazing, Share looks amazing. And then you
look at someone and you're like, whoa yea shit, And
(18:25):
they all had access. All these people have access. It's
not something that only she has in you don't. Everything's
available to everyone nowadays. There are no more secrets. And
so you did the right thing, which is you're just
just holding steady. I promise you by even though everything
looks amazing whatever, the last component, which is natural because
it's only been six months, will fall into place over
(18:47):
the end of twelve to eighteen months. I give you certainty.
And what's great is that you got external confirmation for
that person and that person who know this process. And
then how does that impacted your sense of self? Like?
So here you are, everyone would argue, can't get any
more confidence? ROSA. I mean, sit up there high Hi,
How does it go? Do you think that it's that?
(19:10):
If there's that it has, has it changed your way
of being in terms of how you're intimate or how
you feel or how how has it impacted your life?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I listen, I love it, and I unless And it's
funny because people will never think that I can get insecure.
And even though my breas there were not bad, I
will wear clothes and unless I'm taping like crazy, I'm
wearing a bra that I cannot if I'm wearing a
dress that I cannot have a bra, I'm self conscious
about them looking like that.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
So I need to tape like crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You know that all these insecurities that people have no
idea that I was going through, right, only my style
is because she's the one taping it and all the
makeup part is I don't have to go through that anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
It feels it feels amazing. I'm just I just I
love it. I love it. And that's why I appreciate you,
is because that's what we need. That's the dialogue that
I wish they'll remain nameless of individuals who are listen.
When you are in the public eye comes with incredible advantages,
and then it comes with a lot of burdens. Yeah,
(20:11):
and they just come hand in hand. And the burdens
are that I have to kind of speak the truth
because I'm taking advantage of sort of a certain and
I don't have as much, say privacy. I've always felt
this way about you can't be a celebrity, reap all
the rewards and then just when it comes to other things,
just be like, I don't know what you're talking about.
So what's great is like you want to have another
(20:31):
young woman who is just a regular person looking save
Rosalind's Hanchez, who is stunning and beautiful and successful and
blah blah blah blah, is sitting there before an event
and go, fuck, I don't know what, make sure that
doesn't shoot this way and she is conscious of something
on herself, and I'll be it as minor as it was.
That I'm okay to also be a little self conscious
(20:54):
because that's normal. That's just like how human beans. You know,
I hate I'm starting to develop like a hollow onder
my mind. What are you talking about? You're a guy,
you look great. That's not what I'm That's not the point.
If it bothers me exactly. Yeah, And so I think
that's that's fantastic, and that's awesome that you have participated
in that, because I just I give you a lot
(21:14):
of kudos. And I want to talk about the part
that always fascinated me, which is I get up, I
go to get coffee, then I come to work and
no one's taking a photo of me. I don't have
to step out of this door and all of a
sudden be like fuck they just no one gives a shit.
I'm not that important. No one's taking photos of me.
(21:34):
But if I had to, then I would constantly have
to worry about every moment of every shot, everything, because
that's just a reality. And you know, someone can take
a photo of you and then make this and that
in a billboard and all of a sudden you have
to do damage. So I'm curious to know how you
have navigated. You know, you're fifty. You look fantastic, you
(21:54):
look normal, you look natural, you look relatable, and how
one navigates being fifty because things starting to happen now
you're like, fuck, you're an actress. So there's a high
demand in their photos being taken a view and then oh, yeah,
that's right, I'm Latina and there's a super demand within
that culture, more so than if you were, as I
(22:16):
mentioned you in Irish. So I think I'm gonna ask
what most people are wondering, because you know, the world
is so in it's alpos an infatuation. It's such a
fascinating concept to me. People aren't infatuated with scientists. Someone
gives a shit, who came up with a cure for
about There's something about humanity that is so interested, so
fascinated into entertainers and celebrityism. And it's interesting because that
(22:40):
because that dovetails very nicely into plastic surgery, because people
are so fascinated with that. Yeah, and so with that
fascination comes a lot of pressure. If you're in that
space again, benefits and pressure. So you know, when you're thirty,
it kind of bullet roof. You know, you're young, you're pretty,
(23:02):
you got it all. And then you know, a celebrities
career spans often eighty years, and there's the middle part. Yeah,
the transition from the thirty year old you to the
seventy year old you where you're just like, you know,
you're Meylstrip and no one gives a shit and you
don't be you left alone.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
That's there was a point that there was the points
zero one.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Percent, but the middle part that transitioned from thirty to
forty to fifty to sixty, that gap, there's a tremendous
amount of internal pressure and dialogue from the outside, from
your friends or whatever. So let's give me a little bit
of insight as to what it's like for you and
the pressures you do or don't feel, and from what
direction it comes in, how you manage It's a big,
(23:43):
big concept, but I want to just talk about it.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I feel it every single day, every single corner, every
single conversation. Granted, I've been pretty bull aproof of my
whole life. You know, in terms of like a very
I've had incredible, a beautiful, constant career with longevity, and
I have the ability to just go out, don't care,
I don't can, don't care, and just I just move
forward and I don't care about the elements.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I'm just gonna move forward. And I've been pretty lucky.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
I'm pretty pretty blessed.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I'm not gonna lie if I tell you that. Now,
I don't know if it is because this business is changing,
even though people believe, you know, there's so much content,
there's almost streaming like there's a lot of opportunities, you know,
not really you know there is, but there isn't. And
especially now with all the strikes and everything that is happening,
(24:32):
things are slowly not a bit. You know, when networks
were picking up whatever, twenty something projects, now they do
They only gren like three, right, So it's very competitive.
It's very difficult. And the equation that the fact that
I've been doing it for so long, there's always this
thing about I wonder if they feel like I'm like,
(24:53):
it's a fresh idea to have me right, you know,
because I always thought so myself, as I it doesn't
matter my age.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
I'm bulletproof I'm always gonna be fresh.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Now it's like, oh, they know my age, they know
that I've been doing it for so long. Maybe I'm
not fresh anymore. So I have this pressure to look fresh.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
To look younger, to stay current. Do you think that
that and that's beautifully said because people don't understand that
from that window. Do you think that's the way the
rest of your friends and colleagues in Celebritism feel the
idea to stay fresh and relevant for sure? Right? Because
that's exactly how I think it's okay, So then now
tell me what you how you manage it?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Like I said, I just have to I just have
to keep moving. I don't have any other way to
manage it, because if I get too much in my
head about it, then I'm gonna I That's one insecurities,
And you know, actors, by nature, we're very insecure for sure,
where my act like we're not, and the perception of
people is that we own the world, that we are
way untouchable.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
We are incredibly insecure.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Makes total sense.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
It doesn't matter who tells you I'm fine, it doesn't
affect me, doesn't affect me.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It's a lie.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
That's why you see that ninety five percent of them,
the ones that are my age and in their forties
and the older, they're starting to look very different, for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
And this is exactly and it's all pressure, that's exactly.
It isn't This is exactly what I'm talking about. This
is the thing that you're like, oh my god, did
you see what so and so did to her face?
Oh my god, do you see so and sos violates?
Did you see so? You know, we can bring up
Madonna or whoever. Everyone is trying to stay relevant, trying
to even though even though their talent hasn't changed. Her
(26:34):
singing hasn't changed, your acting has changed. It's the idea
that my shell is changing. Some of that is the
fact that you're just aging, yeah, but a lot of
it has to do with the outside pressure.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
So look on social media is we're bom bombarded constantly
with aesthetics and the definition of what is.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Beautiful, right, and everything is ever changing, you know, like
the full body became a thing. Now back to skinny
is a thing. The Christ with those and everybody wants
to look a specific way and that's gonna go away
within a couple of years for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
And the booty is gonna come back, but it's just
trying to catch up.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I mean, okay, I'm not that, but let me if
I'm manipulent myself this way, maybe I can be like
it is a constant game and if you're not very strong.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Can destroy you.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
To be honest with one hundred percent. And that's exactly
why this is so relevant because you're not Oh but
she's pretty. No, that's not what this has. It has
a zero to do. It has been with the mental,
mental fortitude. It's not as if Okay, so let's back
up here. So you had mentioned to me that you
you feel it isn't You're not feeling pressure from your agent.
You're feeling pressure from your friends. Right, it's like your age.
(27:40):
It's not like your agent. You're looking at a little snow.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I'm not only those those agents exist. But I've been
doing this for thirty years. I've never gotten a phone
call from a manager or lawyer, an agent or a
publicist saying, Russ, I think you need to do this.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
When it comes asthetics, it's your friend, it's your call.
It's the other one. So tell me what you hear.
So tell me what are the conversation inner dialogue. You
didn't need to name anybody but.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Give, he said, I just didn't myself.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
This thing is funny because, like I swear to you,
I've never been when it comes to my face, I've
never had an issue with anything. And people have said
to me, you have a nose job.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I never don't.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I've never touched my nose if I had. If I had,
it was the worst nose in the hyst.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
You know. They always said, yeah, I did you. I
have patients to come in it because I do a
lot of noses. Did you is that you didn't know?
Jobout like a I'd ask for my money back. I too.
I too. That means like my cannot be the outcome
that I asked for.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I was like, no, guys, it looks like a nose job.
I'm unaware of that because this has all these different angles.
But no, it's not. And anybody and if I did,
I would. I'm the first one to say I fixed
my and I freaking love it, you know. But that's
not the case. But but when it comes to my face,
I have never had an issue.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I want to patg you.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
In Puerto Rico when I was twenty one, years old
and the next day the first thing, I think, I'm
the only beautiful Wien in the island that has not
touched anything about her right, no implants, no surgeries.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I want the thing they said to me. I was
twenty one years old.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
They said to me, Yeah, to anyone, they said, we
want to fix your nose and do because I was
flat food breasts.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
And I said, as a as a winner, like that's
your I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
And the beauty pageant world, that's it's part of the
glam Yeah, it's it's part of the allure and the
fantasy of.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
It all that these girls are produced to look unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, I mean that's a whole different anal of itself
because your your talent is your beauty.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Of course, but I want and I was like, I know,
nobody's touching my face.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I'm not doing anything. Now fast forward.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I'm fifty right, it's buddy, So I've never had a
problem with my face at all. And then I see
a good friend no wide, she's an actress, beautiful, and
she's looking unbelievable. But I cannot really figure out what
is that is what is happening?
Speaker 1 (29:45):
But it's so well done. Right. Then I keep looking
at her. I we like sisters.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
And then finally I just said, I think it's this
the lips. And I call and I said, listen, you
can tell me to f off, but who they do
because it's just perfection. I wasn't sure, right, And She's like,
oh my.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
God, that's so funny. I just dated. We had a
whole conversation about it.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Never in a million years I've had a problem with
my mouth and my lips.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Never.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I've always known that my upper lip it's a little
like I don't it doesn't work like.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
This, right, but never writ it.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Never, And I am now at fifty years old, thinking.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
I wonder if I just do here.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
And I but then I just go ros what don't start?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So it's so so interesting You're you're I want to
I want to have this conversation because you're this is
a this is almost an experiment like a Petri dish.
We don't get access to this often, right, because you
never get to talk to the person before they did
anything or as they're about to do something. So you're
like right at the train station. So so this is
a great conversation because you're going to have the evil
(30:54):
devil and the you're gonna have the why not? Ros
you're changing, You're in the industry, stay relevant, you can
do it. It can look natural, right, you have that,
and at the same time that's the guy going go
for it, and then you have the you haven't needed it.
There's nothing wrong with you had you not seen it.
Everyone thinks you look amazing. Yeah, so that duality exists
in everyone. What I would tell you, as as you
(31:16):
were friend and expert have is that. And I had
a friend of mine who asked me, is the time
to do something is the time wherein which you personally
feel that the item that you're concerned about bothers you
so much that it consumes your thoughts at all time
(31:40):
when you're present in that moment. So give an example.
Your breast when you were intimate, when you were wearing
your clothes, when you were on stage, was becoming a problem,
and it was something that was bothering you, the same
thought process you had because you haven't actually internal you
you you didn't just I don't like my breast surgery
next week. You let it simmer and simmer and cook
(32:00):
and simmer and simmer, and it bothered me. Ten percent.
This year bothers me twenty seven percent. This year's bothering
me thirty eight percent. And there will be and there
might be a point in which internally it bothers you enough.
The key and this is the thing that you have
to be very careful that external photos. Friend, don't push that,
accelerate that quickly, because with your breast you didn't have
(32:22):
an external pressure. It wasn't like you looked at Susie's
bresure like, holy shit, her breaths better than mine. I
need mine done. This lip thing was because you're like, wow,
that looks good.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, but it's problematic to think that because I don't
need it at all at all, And I know that
my soul knows that, right.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I've been for fifty years like this. Everybody thinks I'm
very pretty, you know, I mean, like I don't need it.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
But is the constant in.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
My face, in my face, in my face, of all
these images of all this girl's older and younger and
my age doing it.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Some look fantastic, some don't, but.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
It is so in my face. And I think that's
why young girls don't have the maturity to be like
I don't need it.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I they jump, No, no question that they don't. You have.
What happens is you have an internal sense of self.
I am good and so when the wind blows, you
kind of just sway, but you don't move. When you're twelve, twenty,
you're nineteen, you're twenty one, and you may even have
you haven't done shit. You have no confidence, per se,
(33:24):
and you see these images and whatever. There's no way
you're You're just a twig. You're getting blown away. There's
no you don't stand a chance, and so everyone is
doing it. Now do you think that you feel yet
a more additional sense of pressure because you're Latina? Do
you think that that Latina component Because and I'll tell
you why. You know, like a third of my practice
(33:46):
is Latinos, right, you know, I mean fluent in Spanish.
I've been to a million, Like, I'm very entrenched in
the Latina community, and there is similar to the African
American community community in their own right, but Lattinos, because
they're Fuego, they have this culture. It's really a lot
of I don't want to say pressure per se because
it's a beautiful thing too. I've had like sixty five
(34:09):
year old woman come in and be like I want
to do my breast because for my husband. Not in
a bad way, everyone don't freak out, but in a
good way, like I'm want to stay relevant. We want
to feel sexy. But it adds extra pressure. And you're
you're very much immersed in the Latina community a lot
of your career. Do you feel that that it's a
little extra chili pepper on top of it?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, I think so, And I don't know if if
every Latina is going to appreciate the comment. You know
that that I'm affirming that one hundred percent. Being Latina
Puerto Rican, there's an element of that. I think Latino
women will love to compete with each other. You know,
it's not so much about me. It's about this female
(34:51):
against female type of component that I have won over you.
I look better than you. I'm not saying it in
a negative way. No, No, it's I'm a girl's girl, and
I love my Latina's or my good friends. It's funny
like I do what I think at my house and
everybody goes all yours are beautiful.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I'm not insecure.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I don't have a problem like all the people that
are like you know, and let me just be the queen.
I love beautiful women, I love beautiful men. You know something,
He's like, I love ites sthetics, but I think as
a Latina. Yeah, it's it's it's ingrained.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
We like we like to look good. It's part of
our sexuality, sensuality. It's like we taught like that. That's
why you go to Columbia. It's like, it's funny, I
went to Columbia to do this thing that I told
you right when I when they appended the pencil test,
what everything? And I remember that I said, I want
to go to a mall, but I don't want to
go to the fan symore. I just want to see culture.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I just want to go to a normal right.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
And I'm there and I'm walking. Granted I just had
a baby and breastfeeding. I feel like the freaking bomba
of Columbia. But I'm walking and every single women, even
the ugly ones, were beautiful. And what is this normal
that even the like the unattractive one is pretty?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Dan me, what is happening in this country? You know?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
And it's a lot of Venezuela, you know, it's a
lot of pressure. I'm gonna give an example my mom.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
My mom is the most humble, simple Puerto Rican lady
in the world.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
She's five to one. She's always been chobby. You know,
my mom doesn't care about money, cure, peticures, facials. She
doesn't even know what that is, going to the to
the beautiful lot. That vocabulary doesn't exist. I'm just a mom.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I'm here for my.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Children and I just don't need to call for my husband,
you know, like very I was not allowed to be
that at my house ever, Like I was not allowed
to go to the pharmacy if I got my period
and I need to go buy a freaking tampon, right,
and she will see me go out without lipstick, without
without lips, No momentito and put some lipstick on.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Mama, just gonta go to hermacy lipstick. My entire life,
my mom.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
It was almost like she was living her life through me,
Like this is not who I was, but this is
who I'm tyberate, well, they but.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
She probably wanted you to meet a beautiful man and
live a good life. And the idea, and it's a
traditional idea that still exists. My mom did it for
my sister. And my mom thought tooth and nail. My
mom's a beautician, cosmetologist, hairdresser, makeup artist. My mom's eighty
three still has impeccable sopheel. Her and my mom were like,
(37:27):
mm hmm, she wears heels at eighty three. She won't
leave the house to go to the grocery store. Done.
My sister could give rats, ass, sweats, flip flops. Leave
me alone, not important to me. Can you imagine the
amount of And my sister was like dating guys. She's like,
you look like a corpse. Put on some blush for
the love of God, and then it would make my
sister piss. She's like, leave me alone. I don't want to.
(37:47):
So I get that idea. And it's natural that you
want your daughter to look.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
And you know what's interesting is almost like and listen,
I never thought my mom it will bug me. It's
like almost like people say, like, how come you become
like you alwaysknew you wanted to be a forward? And
I say, it was all my mom. And my mom
is leaving through me. But she was very blessed because.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
I loved it. So it wasn't like no, you know,
I mean, it was like she was a stage mom.
But I can't.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
I can't say, you know what, this is not what
I wanted to do, but for the pressure, you know,
my I'm like I loved it at how lucky, but
it's now I have a daughter and not in a
myth listen, and this is when I have to be
like Ross. You have to break cycles right and allow
her to be she is. My daughter is just beautiful girl.
She's eleven years old, Sabella, and she is a tennis player.
(38:35):
She's being athletic, sure, very sporty sports and she wants.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
To be leggings and a T shirt and a hat,
you know, because she's.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
By the way, that's the new culture, Allo culture. You
may literally go to a black tie event without you.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
You know how foreign that is to me because my
vision was I'm gonna have a little girl number one.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
She's gonna be a belle. She's gonna be in a
tw tuna ballerine. My wife, My wife is expressed.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
You know what of my my is gonna be this
perfect little girl and she's gonna be like this girly girly,
girly girling. That's all I thought it was gonna happen, right, Sabella,
is I'm going to be exactly who you are not
It is a correct right, right. So the more makeup
I use, the less she wants to like, So, can
(39:18):
you put some chapstick your lips? Loop?
Speaker 1 (39:20):
They're gonna fall over a wrap.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
No, Sabella, We're gonna go to this dinner. It's kind
of fancy. And she will come out and I'll be like,
are you joking?
Speaker 1 (39:28):
She's got her she's got her correct and I'm going
I am gonna go crazy.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
And now I'm starting to understand, you know what ross
she is who she is, You know, it doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
It's not who you want to be. She's gonna live
the best version of her life and support her is.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
But what my mom would have never allowed that.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
That's a different culture, you know, the truth of man.
My wife, My wife was a tom boy. She did
jiu jitsu. Her mom wanted to do ballet. She did
you know, she racked, she ran track and feel and
her mom wanted to replay do piano. My wife ended
up being a model. She's five eleven. She eventually on
her own boomerang back and decided she wanted to be
girly and whatnot. But she lived that period of her
(40:13):
time on her own terms and she'll find her way.
But the one thing that's unique about Latino community, and
I'll mention this to you because that's why I'm You
cannot turn on the TV, a telenovella, a game show
and everyone isn't super hot. They haven't caught up to
American standards of like you know, in America, it's inclusiveness.
(40:34):
So you're gonna have every shape, color size, you know,
it doesn't matter if your it just we have to represent.
So every color rainbow is gonna be Latinos are like
hell with that, but it's beon off, she's hot. That
why the woman is smoking.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
On The newest casters like like hard news and they
look like barbies.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
I think it's brilliant. Yeah, they very smart. I'm not
taking away from their capacity. I'm just saying that I
actually love about the Latino community is that they're still
hardwired and that you gotta be good. No one's gonna
give you a pass, but you gotta look to it.
We're not gonna put you on stage your repre, you'ren't
gonna be our our newscaster. And as you said, look
(41:15):
like oompa loompus. So I think that you know, it's
really fascinating because you know, you have you have all
these internal pressures and then you have this daughter and
you have to balance all these things out in terms
of what's right for me, what should I shouldn't I do?
Is it because I want to? Is it because I'm
being told? Am I gonna be my mom? Or I'm
gonna let her be? And it's all those dynamics. And
(41:38):
I do think the fact that you're an actress and
that you're a Latina change. Those are dynamics that every
move woman is going to experience in today. Nobody nobody
walks out of the house and doesn't feel the pressure.
But it's it's significant when you're there's an example that
does happened. So there's a movie right with this guy.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
He's probably in his mid fifties.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
You know, he's aldo the main doing it really well.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
And I guess they had a girl that fell through,
like like the deal didn't work out. So there were
the female leads. They were looking for a girl and
she didn't want her to be Latina. So my manager
knows a producer, and he was like, you know, I'm
very excited ross persisting this movie. And I pitched you,
and they're like.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
All over it.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
They love the idea, they think it'll be fantastic. Uh,
they do have another person in mind. I don't know
how to pronounce her name, said another Latina, and he
tells me the name. She's super hot at the moment, right,
but she's probably late twenties.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
That's I mean, you can you pitch a twenty in
late twenties to late fifties the same. So I'm like, oh,
oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
She is just beautiful and she's actually really good.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
So I'm not mad at that.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
I understand why, you know, between this one and this one,
and let me go with the younger, more, the one
that is more the eat girl at the moment, sure,
but against the fifty year old correct.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
That was my sacond point. This freaking.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Environment did this business and this way of doing things
that he's always been like this because you never see
an old man with somebody that is contemporary.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Have very few of those movies get made.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
And they're like the old old old eye on old timers. No,
but even the Denzels and the de Neros, they all
tend to go they want to go younger.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
So this girl, I can be her mom.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
And it's interesting because if you see me next to her,
you will never think I am toenty something news older?
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah ever, you know ever?
Speaker 2 (43:27):
But I am, and they know my age and I've
been around longer, so of course I didn't get it right,
which is okay, you know, like I said, I'm a fan.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
She's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
But those are the moments when you go, Okay, what
do I need to do right?
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Or or you say, ah, fuck, I gotta find a
different role that works for me, because I can tell
you it's an aesthetic surgeon. If you sat here, let's
let's let's let's break it. If you sat here and
I was looking at you and you're sagging, you had
a ton of eyelid skin, you're hollow in your mid face,
(44:04):
you had a bunch of jows, and you had neck bands.
I mean I wouldn't do it on stage. I'd pull
you aside back ros it's time And you can tell
me go fuck yourself, but I tell you it's time
because it's time.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
You don't have to do it, but you have arrived,
but you're not there. You don't have saggy brows, a
bunch of eyelid, skin, hollowness in your mid face, and
a bunch of neck bands. You will it'll happen. You're lucky,
you have great genetics, you've taken good care of yourself,
and you're later in the way. Then you go, this
is just a matter of logistics that didn't work out
(44:37):
this season't because you're not comparable in terms of your shell.
There will be a time where you will consider it
and it may be apropos. But now it's not the time.
And that's the secret sauce to do it when it
makes sense, not because you missed the role.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
But I have a question for you, because I keep listening,
I could hear in this and then correct to me.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
If what I'm hearing is what you're gonna ask me,
should I tell you what it is that you should
do things? Early before said okay, that's ship you hear.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
That.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
If I'm the psidekick, I would not be sitting here.
I'd be stealing people's fucking bank account numbers or something. No,
because you're gonna do that? True that they say, you
know what the meani? What is the MENI face mini face?
It does over here and you also do it now
don't do it in the sixties. Do it. So let
me explain something to you. I just did a post
on this in our Instagram. Okay. What we're talking about
is being lost in translation. There's a difference between doing
(45:34):
things early as they occur, meaning they're there, they're just
not bad off, and then doing things before they occur. Okay,
So listen very carefully, show you understand the message is
being jumbled up, which is historically and let's use faces
for an example. It can be anything. It can be anything,
(45:54):
but they's take faces because it's a great example in
the historic ethos. You did your facelift in your sixties
or later sixties and seventies or one. Okay, things have
changed and now we're doing facelifts in mid to late
forties and fifties. Okay, so let's just say that your
(46:15):
face has eight. Listen, listen, you've let's say you've aged,
and your face amount of the way it's changed is
an eight. It looks as an eight. Ten being your
great great grandmother, one being your daughter. Okay, so ten
horrible sad everything. One your your daughter. So we used
to wait till your face is around an eight. Everything
(46:36):
we talk about was just really bad, like it was
really bad. And what we're saying now, and remember there's
a lot of marketing behind this because it's better for
us surgeons, is rather than doing it when it's eight,
how about doing it when it's five or four? Okay, right.
What patients are interpreting that is, let me do it one.
It's a two. A two means it hasn't even happened yet.
(46:59):
And so what you do is when you're you are
different than Jake, Your friends are all different. That forty
five year old needs it, This fifty year old doesn't
need it. What it is is when your neck bands
start to occur, you're starting, your jowling is starting, and
your marionette is starting, and you're starting to hollow, which
(47:19):
is if you're your daughter's a one, your great grandmother's
a ten. You went from a two to a three,
and now it's or five and you're like, oh shit.
That is the discussion of whether or not you should
do it at a four or five, or you should
do it at traditional eight. The answer to that is
who are you? Are you the person that fills your
tank of gas when it's like halfway full, because it's
(47:42):
a good good good, like a good gas station. You
don't know when the next one is or are you
that person's like, fuck it, I'm just gonna drive until,
like I don't even need gas for a while. Yeah,
that's personality. But what you never want to do is
get so forced into it that you're doing it at
a two dash three and you're just that's what you're feeling.
And so definitely, definitely there is this notion that you
(48:02):
should and from an actress standpoint, the sooner you do it,
the less dramatic it is. Meaning one day you are nate,
you show up back on camera the next time and
you're a five or four. WHOA what happened to so
and so and so. As an actress, you feel that
pressure more to kind of do it as it's occurring.
I'm starting to have eyelid excess skin. Fuck it, let
(48:25):
me just take a little the skin out, my browsers
starting to settle, let me lift it. So you're right
in that that is, but I think it's being way
over expressed. You know what.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
What scares me sometimes I don't know, I don't know
if every actress or every woman that has a daughter
or has daughters, right think about this, especially a daughter
like mine, that is so she's eleven with the mind
of a thirty something. There's so mature nowadays, you know,
and they attention, they see everything. There's model on us.
(48:55):
And it's so important to me that this girl grows
up so secure of her and comfortable with her in
her own skin and understanding that. And I don't want
to sound.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Cliche, but.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
The soul is more important than anything, you know what
I mean. I just wanted to be a.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Good human being one hundred percent, and I just think,
what if I allow myself to drink the kool aid
and then this feel like I have to make all
these changes while she's observing me and she sees the changes.
I don't want her for one second to be like
you know, when my mom didn't think she was enough,
so then she went cook when she started doing all
these things, and now she doesn't feel she doesn't look
(49:33):
exactly like the girl, the woman that I remember as
my mom five years ago.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
I don't want that to happen.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
So you have echoed what many, many, many, many women
have said, which is I don't want to send the
wrong message I can. So the answer to that is
as follows transparency. You need to have an open dialogue
with your daughter at the right times, in the way
that you feel most comfortable sharing your thought processes, your concerns,
(49:59):
the things you see. You know, I'm starting to notice this,
and mom feels a lot of pressure when you can't
tell her when she's seven, But when you're like thirteen, fourteen,
you're gonna start having this die. Like, listen, you're amazing
and you're beautiful, and you are enough. But I am
this person and I'm changing, and I have these needs
and this is what my work is and I'm doing
it for myself and my career. You can have that
(50:19):
dialogue and then she'll then understand, because you aren't crazy
if you did it in a vacuum and you just
all of a sudden came up with duck lips and
she's like, Mom, what are you doing? Well, you know
I was at this fall and I so so forgive me.
I'm not you, and I don't have a daughter, and Mike,
I haven't had procedures. I just want to be responsible.
(50:40):
But I think I think my personal opinion is responsibly
comes through discussion and dialogue. Yeah, and that there's a
time and a place for different things, for different people,
and that I think that that can set So I.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
Wonder how a lot of these girls that are like influencers,
you know that.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
That have they screw up there. They destroyed these young girls's.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
Life and moms as well, and they they they don't
look like the same, Like, I wonder what is the
conversation they're having they're not.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
And so as a response, and I said this, and
we'll wrap with this, is that with all these burdens,
you also have these responsibilities. And the first thing I
said to you is kudos for you. You can you're reaping
the benefits of your fame and you're also falling on
your sword and having a dialogue about abreastive which is
relatively it to me. It's like you need to tell
anybody about your breast being flat or wiser, but you're like,
(51:29):
fuck it, I you know, this is part of who
I am as this is my job. And so these
fake influencers and a lot of these so called celebrities
that are cowards hide behind that. And what they do
is they send these messages to these people who may
not have the ability to make that distinction. So it's
all about the dialogue. Yeah, it's about the dialogue, which is, hey,
(51:52):
I'm someone you follow, I'm someone you aspire to. Number One,
I have insecurities number two myself. Here is why. And
then you de escalated and people can clarify. But these
filters and all these things, everyone's messed up. Everyone's brain
is mush, all these young people are and all you
have a responsibility to do is your daughter and your
(52:14):
fan base. And you've done a great job, all right,
So I know everybody's gonna want to hear more of this,
so we'll maybe have to invite you over again and
put on this whole show again. Thank you for the show, Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
but that's such a great time. And I love spending
time with you. You're just such a pleasure to be around
and and I'm happy for you that the surgery worked
(52:36):
out well, and just thank you, thank you for bringing
on our show. So, guys, that's gonna wrap up another
episode of plastic surgery on Censored. You know what I
always end with two things. One, if you like our show,
share it with people that you think might benefit from it.
You just never know what who's gonna do what. And
next thing, you know, they're gonna look like Madonna. You're
gonna wish they had sent you that you had sent
them the show. The second is write something nice. Everybody
(52:59):
writes nasty things about each other nowadays Twitter and TikTok.
If you love the show, you find it interesting, go
write something nice to people who put the show together,
love to read it, and we will be grateful. That's it.
That's another rap. That's another episode of plastic surgery and
censored until next week. I'm your host, Doctor Rodder Raban.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
Bye bye bye
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