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February 11, 2026 26 mins
Perfection is not the price of transformation. This one's for everyone doing 17 tabs of life at once. It's easy to look at someone leading at Nicole's level and assume she just arrived there. This conversation pulls back the curtain on what nobody says out loud, why perfectionism is a leadership trap, why failing faster is modern instead of messy, and what it costs to use your voice in rooms you once shrank inside. Nicole's back on the show, and this time it gets personal. Who she is: Nicole is BDO's Workday Practice Leader and a returning guest. She didn't arrive at this level, she built it, with will, grace, community, and yes, some exhaustion and a laugh in the middle of it. What she does: She leads Workday change and enterprise transformation while living the full reality of the modern working parent, leader, and creator, refusing to keep her career life and creator life in separate boxes. What she believes: That perfectionism is a leadership trap, especially for "oldest daughter energy" folks, and that you don't arrive, you earn it, sometimes at real cost. Your leadership doesn't clock out, and your life doesn't compartmentalize. How she works: By failing faster and leading out loud. Nicole uses her voice in rooms she once shrank inside, integrating career, family, and creativity instead of splitting herself across them. In this episode: Why perfectionism is a leadership trap, not a standard to chase Why failing faster isn't messy, it's modern What it takes to use your voice in rooms you once shrank inside Why you don't "arrive," you build it, with will, grace, and community
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