How Justin stays sober | 217 Recovery Podcast

How to stay sober after bad things happen in life.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the two seventeen Recovery podcast. If you don't
make mistakes, you won't learn. With your host Corey Winfield, you.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Know there was a reason why that didn't work out,
and you can look back at it and go, yep,
I'm glad that didn't work out how I wanted.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
It, because I wouldn't have been got your ass.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
My name is Corey Winfield and it is the twenty
first of November twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
I'm Justin Burt, and you are the guest speaker today.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Welcome Justin.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
How you doing You're doing well?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
And I can't remember have we talked on the podcast
since you have left you seventeen Recovery? No, I don't
think so, but people will probably been like seven eight months.
What happened that We probably only released seven or eight
episodes since then? If that month, my apologies. You know,
it's just been as you said, Justin, oh you're really slacking. Yeah,
I said earlier before we started the podcast, he said

(00:56):
I was slacking and I chuckled, Yeah, I've been slacking,
but now I've just been busy. And you know it
was the podcast kept me sober forever, and it still
keeps me sober. Still something I like to do and
I like to get on here and I like to talk,
and it's for me. Yeah, you know, I don't do
it for money. I don't do it for other people.
So it's just like maybe that's a good good sign.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I still want to do the podcast until I'm one hundred,
until I can't come on and trust him this. You know,
I'll be calling you like, what do you mean? I
thought you We'll get all messed up because we're really
old and it'll be like the modern day Paul Hervey. Yeah,
I mean we both know. And I'm forty seven and
it's hard. It is, this life and trying to remember
things and all this is hard sometimes, and so I

(01:40):
can imagine when I'm seventy eighty I'm still trying to
rock the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah. I don't know how I ever remembered anything while
I was an active addiction compared to now, like like
clear minded I things.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, there's some people are running into and be like
I knew you, but this is so familiar. I'm not
sure why it is. Yeah, yeah happens a lot, it does, man,
But you did also show me a reason why you've
been stepping away from the podcast though, a little teaser

(02:16):
your projects you've been working on, which are phenomenal. We
don't got to discuss it any farther than that. Just
stay tuned people, big things are coming.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Big tease.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah, you know, but but it's it's something that you're
taking that next step year evolving. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, And I finished the movie script is I think
one of the things you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Oh, well, that's one of them. Yeah, yeah, that's one
of the things I've gotten to, like page fourteen so far.
It's great though, one hundred and ten pages. That's the thing, man,
I give it to you, Martie.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Marty gets a free pass because she's read that like
eighty times already. Because when I need her to like
proof read it because my grammar is bad, or I'll
start changing something and then I'll go back and change
a couple of things but not the whole thing, and think, well,
there's a part of the beginning, but I'll change that
later when I go back, and then I forget to
do it, and yeah, and it's just little things. So

(03:11):
it's like, all right, I got it. You guys proofread it,
and they did, and you know, told me, hey, changed this,
and I changed it, added the middle part that they
didn't get, and nobody wants to read it. I'm like, damn,
So I fixed all the errors, added a huge section
of that. It was pretty much the middle section that
bridges one in three.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Two.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Obviously it's huge, and they're just like, yeah, i'll read it.
I've been really busy with working lately. And Marty does
get a free pass because Cherry's already heard of me,
say well, here's what I'm changing already. So she's like, well,
why am I going to read that when you're going
to change already. Whyn't you just change already and then
let me read that?

Speaker 1 (03:53):
You know what? That'll be your Christmas present this year?
A review on your script.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Okay, well, let me finish it then, because I sent
it off to a guy who helped me with some stuff,
and so I sent it out to him and he
was like, hey, i'll read it this weekend. Then never did,
and I kind of and I don't know why I
was waiting on his.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Approval.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, well, because he helped me so far, and he
pointed out some obvious things I just was overlooking, you know,
And it's just that you got to get in the feeling,
you have to get in the trenches again.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
You know, that was a huge part that I was missing.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
I was just writing a story, which that's fine, but
not for what I was trying to do, right, And
I don't know, it's just interesting, you know, and people
probably if they listen to the podcast. I know some
people actually went back and listened from the very beginning
and it's like a soap opera. Oh you know, it's
my journey through early recovery and up to today.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
So it is pretty cool. But some will you know,
hear me say, like early in the beginning, Hey.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
I want to have a bad podcast studio one day,
you know, and it's gonna be awesome. And here we
are and they do and then hey, which, we're going
to take people to treatment and help people get where
they need to go and make sure they don't miss
court and dah da da, and that's what we're doing, yes,
you know, and we're still trying to do that, and
you know, hopefully we find other ways to obtain gas

(05:14):
and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, but there's some things in the work. Then God's good,
you know, God's great all the time. Yeah, he is
just gonna step away from what you're trying to force
down your own throat and step back and realize, all right, God,
well where are you trying to point me then?

Speaker 3 (05:29):
And I'll go, yeah, it's a lot easier that way.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
And a lot of times he teaches you unruly lessons
that you really don't want to face and have to learn,
and it takes a while for you to get back
where you want to be. It could be months, it
could be a year sometimes. Yeah, you never know.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
You want to hear some you want to get real
emotional with me this morning?

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do it obviously. Oh thanks, Mitch.
Oh all right.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
So I was thinking the other day about how people
and things in your life happen and you get so
mad about him at the time, but then you look
back and when you look at the big picture and
you go, oh, my god, if that wouldn't have happened,
I dodged a bullet, I would be that. And this

(06:15):
goes back to Arkansas. When I was working in Arkansas,
my friend Ron Robinson, I got him a job there.
I was really hoping he would get a job there,
and I was like, Ron, there's a country stationer looking please,
please please, because he was kind of like, look, man,
kind of in between gigs, and I don't know what
to do. You know, child support stacking up and you
know how that goes, and I'll play with that. They

(06:37):
love throwing people in jail for that because that helps
you pay your child support, because that's the reason you
weren't paying it, because you had so much money. You
were just walking around town just you know, going doing whatever.
Just oh no, no, kid can wait. No, that's not
what dads are doing.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
No.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
But anyway, I mean, I'm sure there's some but anyway,
I regards this was what Ron. Ron was looking for jobs.
So anyway, I get him into Arkansas and Ron was
just like, oh my god, what did you do? What
did you do to me? Winfield? He didn't tell me
and it was like this, and I was like, well,
I just got here too, and he's like, Winfield, you
knew more than what you let on and he said
it was great, d d d.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Well, this is where we're at.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Ron, and so he kind of hated it, and like
just the situation was just not ideal, you know, for
either of us.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
We were both wanting out.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
And so I came home on a Christmas trip and
I had interviewed on the phone with Q one O
six and Lansing and I talked to them, and I
met with a guy at Olive Garden and Kalmazoo at
the Christmas time and he was like, you're my guy.
He's like, I want you to come work for us.
This was December, but he was like, look and we'll

(07:51):
have it done by March. But he's like there's something
going down. When that goes down, then we'll get the
green light and you're my guy and we'll hire you
on March. So just hang in there, don't be taking
another jobs.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
You're my guy.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
And I'm like, all right, man, this is cool. I'll
be coming home to Michigan again. It's cool.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
So that didn't happen the station. The big thing that
was going on was this station. The cluster was getting
sold and his position as the general manager. Well, that
new cluster, that station, they didn't have general manager.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
So that boop. He was out immediately.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, so oops, And so I go back and I
open my mouth to Ron. I'm like, Ron, see you later, homie,
and I'm like passing out shirts like all of our
swag that we had, you know, at the radio station,
and it was like so hard to get them to
spend anything for anything, and I'm just.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Like giving it out, like who cares?

Speaker 1 (08:39):
You want all these Bob and Tom CDs here you go, Oh,
I'm out.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
And Ron's just like, man, that's messed up. You're not
leaving me.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
And so Ron immediately just goes and he's just like, no,
I'm out moving back home. And he had met up
with his other was not a wife, but he had
dated her previously in the past, and they kind of
hit it back off, and shit came down to Arkansas
to visit with him, and they kind of rekindled that flame.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
And she just saw Ron.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
It's like a little scene going in and see a
little puppy dog at the mall, you know, and you're
just like, oh, I want to take them home. I
think that's probably what she felt. It's like seeing Ron
in Arkansas and just it just wasn't a good.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Time for us.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
And that's at least I'm sure I can speak for
Ron and say that I don't think he would be mad.
If he is, then I'm sorry, man, don't wait me.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
But it was bad. So but anyway, so Ron left
and I was so pissed.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I was so mad and I was like, dude, you
can't leave me here, and he's like, well, you're not
leaving me here, so I'm out. You know, Janis Nyer,
We're gonna go live happily ever after, which they are.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
And it's great.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
So I was like, dude, okay, whatever, and then you know,
they tell me that I'm not coming, that the dude
doesn't have a job, and I'm just so I'm just
stuck there. It was miserable and I hated it. But
then after Ron left, they hired a guy named Steve,
and Steve and I became very good friends and I

(10:08):
don't talk to him hardly ever today and I always
want to write him and text him. This the story
I'm about to tell you because it's it's huge and
it saved my life, it really did.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
And the fact that my son is here is because
of Steve. You know.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Sorry, I needed that a little moment to compose myself there.
But no, the reason I'll give him Steve all these
props because Steve took over for Ron after Ron left,
which I was mad about because for selfish reasons, I
lost my friend.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Even though Ron's bettering himself. And it's not that I
hated Ron for it, you know, obviously, but I was
still like.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Ah, I'm mad.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
I was like, damn it, Ron, I don't leave me here,
just as he was going to be is, I wasn't
going to leave him there, you know. So but then
Steve comes, and Steve and I have become pretty good friends.
And Steve was kind of older than me. I don't
know exact age of what Steve was.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
I know I was like thirties, early thirties and then
mid thirties whatever.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
But Steve was the person that made sure I called
the doctor when my stomach was hurting at work and
when I had liver failure right like my liver and
kidneys weren't working.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
You know.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Of course I was in pain. I was sitting at
my desk.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
And he would just be like, dude, I can't take
it anymore.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Man.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
He's like, you got to call somebody, and I'm like okay,
And I just remember he walked over and we had
the same doctor, and he picked up my phone old
school on the desk, you know. Here he starts dialing it. Here,
make the appointment, you know, And I was like what
He's like, man, it's this appointment, and that's I called
and made the appointment, and I went and to go

(11:56):
see the doctor and he sends me over to this
other doctor and they're like, oh gosh, the gastrologists people
and they're like, okay, well you need to go immediately,
you know, like this isn't good. And then you know,
when when I get out of the hospital or whatever,
as I'm leaving, they're like, yeah, ninety eight percent of
people in your condition die, don't You don't make it
out of the hospital.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Everybody thought you were a goner. And I thought the
nurses were like flirting with me, you know.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I was like, hey, I thought they were, but no,
they were just being nice because they're probably this dude's dying, right,
you know, like this dude, this is last time he's
going to visit his mom. It's probably really sad for
people that work there, you know, so props to them,
but they see it way more than I do.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
And I feel like I see it all the time.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
But you know, if Steve didn't do that, if Steve
would have just been like whatever, you know, like I
don't know. And that's why I like when you worked here.
I would try to bust your guys's balls to go
to the doctor, man, because if something's wrong with you, cold,
get it looked at it, go get it figured out, because.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
You never know, you never know.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Well that goes into like my mom and are cough
And I've told you about this. I haven't told anybody else,
you know, but my mom's had a horrible cough for
I don't know, two three years, you know. And finally,
just as August, her electric lights dipped really low, like
her sodium dipped so low that she wasn't herself. She

(13:19):
kept repeating herself like she was highly intoxicated, and I
actually accused her of being highly intoxicated. I feel really
like a dick now because of how I worded things
in the beginning, you know. And it's just one of

(13:39):
those things, you know, as much as you want to
believe somebody that they're not drinking, but you know they
do drink totally does not dick pick hah a great one.
But anyways, you know, she told me she hadn't been drinking.
And so my brother was up here with me and
stuff because he lives with me now doing great, by

(14:00):
the way, and I told him to call her friend
that was normally over at her house quite a bit
and he was like, no, she ain't been drinking like
that nothing. And I'm like, Mom, you guys go to
the hospital. And by the time she got there her
they tested her, they did lab work. It came back
her sodium was really low, her magnesium was low, her

(14:23):
potassium was low. So they were all really low. So
her brain was reverting back to not proper, proper function
because we're depleting things. And they sent her in for
an X ray because of her cough on her chest
and she had a bunch of black spots all in
her lungs and that. It was probably the hardest saying

(14:46):
that I had to deal with at that moment in
time being sober, was finding out my mom's got stage
four small cell lung cancer. Oh, your mutest. It wasn't
just it wasn't just they had bad machines. You know.
I spent like two weeks between me and my brother,

(15:07):
we spent like two weeks going back and forth to
Grand Rapids. That's gonna be some hard. It was hard.
It was really hard, real aggravating. One doctor will come
in and tell you one thing, another doctor will tell
you something different. It was a big cluster of a mess,
and it's just it was hard. It was definitely that

(15:28):
kicking the balls that you don't expect to get in recovery.
And when you when it does happen, you're still like
kind of like withdrawn a little bit, like you just
you're unsure how to process it. And then you know,
it wasn't damn like six six weeks later that my

(15:55):
dad had some charges pending against him that he just
didn't want to deal with and so he lives himself,
you know, And it was just like it's just been
a kicking the balls after kicking the balls for going
on a few months now, you know, and it's just

(16:15):
but my personal life's going great. It's just everything outside
of my immediate personal life is feels like it's crumbling.
M for some reason, Does that make any sense? How?
Like everything around you is crumbling, but in your immediate
little circle, it's like fine, Like my personal life's going great,

(16:40):
Like I'm met this amazing woman. Yeah, you know. It's
it's like it's like it's like I'm in this little
bubble in my own little personal life, like like my
little personal bubbles going great, and you are you looking
to change that? No, I'm not, because you know how
you can Oh no, real quickly. Oh I ain't changed nothing.

(17:00):
What I got my little personal bubble, but it seems
like everything else around me. It's like temptations real and
it's everywhere. Yeah, you know, it really is.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
That's when you call people, that's when you text somebody,
you know, and it's like some people be like, oh,
I called you, Corey, and I'm like, well, that was
your mistake, you know, because I'm not a caller guy.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, yeah, you text one field.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, And I'm sorry if they're like, oh a lot
of Look, that's just I'm studying my boundaries and this
is my life too.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
You know.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
And you got Parker now, yeah, it's easier to grab
a phone and real quick.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
And Parker doesn't like that either.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
But but you know, when I was going through all
this stuff, you know, I reached out to the people here,
to people I classify as family. You know, you, Marnie, Corey, Jesse, Kim,
you know all you guys. And I did come in
here and talk to Jesse and Corey about it quite

(17:57):
a bit. You know. There was one Sunday morning I
think I was up way early and was messaging Jesse
and then just ended up having a two hour conversation, Like, man,
why just year five gotta be such a bitch, dude.
Like I thought going through divorce was hard, but half

(18:20):
in her process almost like losing your mom and then
losing your dad. Like, my mom's so sick because of
the radiation. Dude. I can show you a picture of
like her nacking up her chest and there's literally blisters
all over, you know, and they're popping, and it's it's shitty, dude, Like,

(18:48):
I've never been so tempted in my life, but not
using like just anyone else would pick these reasons to
be like, well that's validated, when really we know that's
not a valid reason. We go, we talk about our feelings,

(19:11):
we don't suppress them, and it's hard to overcome all that. Yeah,
the life's been really hard. I'm still working and still

(19:33):
got my daughter full time. She's enjoying school, she loves
my new girlfriend. You know, there's lots of things I
have to be thankful for so too.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, that gratitude list, you gotta get that sucker ottery
once and again. Yeah, just just remind yourself like, hey,
it's it's not all. But like you said, you know,
you're inner circle is kind of good. I mean then
you talk about your family and stuff kind of blown apart,
but I mean that is still kind of your outside world,
you know, like, yeah, it's your family, but like that's

(20:07):
not you. You know, that's not your direct family, that's
not your your child. I mean, I guess your mom
is your direct family.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
But I don't know. It depends how you look at it.
But I don't think you overcome it.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
I've talked to people who have lost people, and they
say it's you don't overcome it. You don't get over it,
you just get better at dealing with it. Just that
a lot of people tell me they still carry on
relationships with those people, you know, in their spirit self.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
I guess I guess that's.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
What I'm looking for, their soul, you know, like I
still talk to my grandmother, you know, my grandfather, and
so like, yeah, my aunt, I still lock to her.
But anyways, on a positive, don't to totally change the
podcasts back to a lighter field. You want to hear
about my mourning this morning? Oh Jesus, I don't know, man,

(21:03):
So that's pain. It is easier just to look them all. Okay,
whoa yeah, justin drops everywhere I see. And so that
really got me thinking about how well that movie dictated that,
you know, with talking to a psychiatrist. The thumbnail totally
does not dick pic the movie.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
You just.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
I tried not to say something the first time.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Anyway, that from anyway, Yeah, sorry, they're justin. Oh, you're
fine what we're saying. But anyways, so on my way
to work, I'm driving because it's an hour to work, right,
I dropped my brother off and then I got work
double today, so I've been going a little late later
than normal because I should have already been there like

(21:55):
fifty minutes ago. This would be regular time obviously. But anyways,
so after I dropped my brother off, I'm like, man,
that's gonna be great. I could order some McDonald's eat
it still, show up to the office early. Do this podcast.
At least have something in my belly so it's not
grumbling and everyone can hear it, you know. Well. Anyways,

(22:19):
so I ordered my little two sausage mcmuffins with cheese. Right,
buy one, get one for a dollar less than four
bucks can't really go wrong. So I'm getting ready to
pull in. I'm like, man, I'll call him up one
of my little homies real quick, see what they're doing
this morning. He text me back as soon as I
was going around the drive through to go park in

(22:41):
the mobile curb side service part and it was seven
forty eight and I'm like, I go park. I'm scrolling
through Facebook watching some reals and I'm like, next thing,
you know, ten minutes has gone by, and I'm like, man,
where's my food at? So I go inside it. Because

(23:01):
I go inside it, it's like it disturbed them. Ha
got you asked two times because you can't drive. And
I was just like, you know, and I look at
the woman. I'm like, she goes, are you here for
the curbside? I was like, well, what else would I
be here for? You? Your whole drive through has changed twice?
So like, how is making two sausage egg? I mean

(23:25):
two sausages MC muffins with? She is really that hard?

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Was her response? Did you really ask?

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah? I did, and she just stood there dumbfounded. And
there was these three guys about our size, you know,
blue collar rough neck type workers. You know, I don't
know they're Pacific Trade, but but you could tell there. Oh,
there are definitely some rough neck country boys, you know
type stuff, And I'm just I look at them my

(23:52):
way out, they just start shaking their heads. I'm like,
you know, when you order curbside pickup, you know, and
you want all the money being a McDonald's worker, which
I'm totally flabbergasted at how I've had jobs here within
the past three years and made less money than someone
working at McDonald's. Oh and it takes you twelve minutes

(24:12):
and you still didn't bring the food out to my car,
and you think you deserve twenty dollars an hour obviously,
Like this world's really messed up. Yeah, I mean, I
don't know, just I'm the last guy, Like I really
want to text McDonald's a one field email. I don't

(24:36):
even know what that means. Oh you know exactly what
that means. Fighter off with a little hate email. No,
there's no whit emails coming here. No, no, No, I'm passionate.
You're passionate. But that's what reacting gets you. And I
look at something daily is for a reminder of what

(24:57):
reacting gets you.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Well, and I see what you're saying, because if you
want to go back, rewind a situation where we took
a truck and to get worked on and it was
one hundred bucks I can't remember what it was, and
we charged it. I'm all right, cool, and we leave
and then I see they've charged one hundred and forty
two dollars and it was a forty two dollars charge

(25:21):
to use a credit card. And I was like, oh
hell no, oh yeah, I was like m and I
caught my credit card company. I was like, I'm disputing that,
you know, like I'll pay them one hundred, but like
I'm not paying them that extra forty two or whatever.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
And I was like, because we are two blocks away.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
If they would have said, hey, it's forty two dollars
to write, you know, unless you want to write a check,
I would have been like, yeah, I'll be right back
and i'll get you a check, right, you know.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
I wouldn't have been like, yeah, just charge it. I'm like, man,
what are you talking about? You know?

Speaker 2 (25:47):
But so, yeah, that I did make some phone calls
in some stuff and made some suggestions that they warned people.
Oh yeah, I think I was polite enough. We don't
take our vehicle there anymore.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
No horrible mistake on my part.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah no, But there are times, man, and like I
had this thing where it was like Amazon, and uh,
is this every dude, my list of stuff that I
still need to follow up on. I'm just little petty
stuff like that. It's just ridiculous. Yeah, it wastes so
much of your time.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
It does.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
I can't be the only one in the whole earth. Like,
obviously I'm not. You go through it. I'm sure Marnie
does too.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Most of the time. I just shrug it off. But
when she just sat there, just handed me my food
and didn't even say sorry, what was she going to
say sorry for what she was? Well, clearly and should
she have been, well, yes, should she have been like
you know what, mister, I am sorry that you had
to come in here after waiting ten minutes?

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Were they really hot?

Speaker 1 (26:53):
At least? Then? They? Actually? I was very it was
all the way around. It was very disappointed. Hm.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
What was the lesson here that God was trying to teach.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
You quitting fast foods?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
There you go, thank you Lord. Yeah, I think he's
getting it. Yeah, it's not that lady's fault. You'd blame
in satan for that.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
No, I was God. He's looking out for you. That's
how it works, man.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
He didn't want me my clus to go up from
the sausage. Yeah. Circle, we'll circle back to around how
God works. And I almost canceled it. It just drove here.
I probably should have see that was your ran moment,
that was your ron moment. Yeah I should, I debated.
I just canceled the order and just drive it off.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
You're gonna keep sticking out, sticking around, going through the
same stuff, going through the same stuff, you know, and
you're like, ah, I'm so mad.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
He's telling you.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Look man, Yeah, I get those moments a lot.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
It does happen.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I did learn a valuable lesson about two months ago,
and I and I do look at this as a
daily reminder. By the way, Oh so, me and my
mom had an argument since she's been sick. I don't
really remember what it was about, but all that I
know is when you're angry and you're upset, you don't

(28:14):
throw things in your car, obviously, because those center councils
are padded and things bounce off them, and then you
end up with a broken passenger side window in your
car and it's very heartbreaking to know.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
That you're such a dumb ass for overreacting and costing
yourself money. So switch to Guico and you could save
twenty percent on your car insurance. But no, but but
but seriously, I did get mad at my mom and
I threw my phone in my battery pack in my

(29:02):
car because I was angry because she told me get
the fuck out of her house. And so I threw
my phone and my battery pack of my car, and
my battery pack bounced off my center council and smacked
my passenger front one shield, I mean not one shield,
but the door window.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
So it is cracked. And you know, and you did that,
I did that, and I could easily fix that for
one hundred dollars. Yes, yeah, that's not that bad. You
probably should but but but but you know, I probably
should fix it, right, But but you want to know
why I ride it out one field because it's a
daily reminder every time I get my car dumb as

(29:44):
it's don't don't react. Stop, think about the situation before reacting.
And that's a valuable lesson that me and you both
struggle with, is reacting.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
You know, every day, it's like.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Someone could just let you off stupid, and you just
want to turn into the incredible halt for absolutely no reason.
And that's why I leave it there. It's not because
I don't have the money to fix it. It's not
that I don't know how to fix it myself. More
than capable of fixing it. I have all the tools,
I have the money. I could order it off eBay

(30:22):
for one hundred bucks. But at the end of the day,
it's that daily reminder. This is what reacting gets you.
And since I have done that, it really tries the
grounding myself because I try letting a lot of stuff go.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yeah, I'm gonna buy you. I'll buy you a little sticker.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
I'll make you a little sticker you can put on
your car or like just your little center council.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, and it'll remind you the same that we can
get your window fixed. Like window fixed.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
You can pay me for it one hundred bucks or whatever.
Damn that's how much a new window would cost. So
calm down. No sounds good, but but no, I do.
I mean, I want to get it fixed.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
It's just it's just a daily reminder right now of
what reacting can get you and so I look at
it on a daily basis. Every time I go to
make a right hand turn. Yeah, I'm like, your dumb ass.
I'm like, can you just stop already, like like just

(31:25):
quit overreacting and just be a normal human being. But
then I ask myself, well, what is a normal human being?
You know, to find a definition of normal as someone
who doesn't react. I mean not everyone could be a
mister Rogers. No. It's hard, man, it really is, and

(31:45):
it's something I work on every day. It's those character defects.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
And sometimes I'm good at it, and most of the
time I'm not. But damn I'm proud when I am right.
You know what, I can notice? Okay, cool, I avoided
that situation. And then there's some times I'm like, oh,
still kicking myself in the ass and like damn, you know.
And sometimes, like you said, I'm already having a bad day,
or maybe I had a McDonald's situation, which I don't.
But that's why I don't go to McDonald's, you know,

(32:10):
because had I don't have situations like that, But I
have other situations that I'm in They're just similar and
it's just like ah, and then somebody will come ask
me something and then I answered the wrong way, or
I don't know, maybe I do send an email without
double checking it to see if it was not an.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Angry email, or I don't know, you know, or confused,
and I don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
I've throw my hands up sometimes and you just have
to just pray to God, like, hey, let me handle
the day. Yeah, you know the best that I can, Lord.
And you know the mistakes that we make, we're supposed
to make. Yep, you know, we're supposed to learn from
those not necessarily supposed to be sorry, you know. And
some of the things I have it to you are

(32:52):
supposed to be happening to you, and it's not up
to us to understand why.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
No, it's not you know, like I said, maybe God.
At that time I slammed my damn hand in the car.
Was one of the worst times that in the time
at my air there were the worst relapses I ever had.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
And oh it was God telling me, like I locked
my car, my keys were in it, and my hand
is in the door. At the liquor store seven o
three in the morning and Buchanan and it was I
don't know, twenty three degrees outside. It was told man,
and I don't even remember how I got out of that.
I think the dude ended up coming out and helping

(33:29):
me and pop the doll, but dude, I was and
I don't even remember, Like it was such a dramatic thing.
That's something you should remember. But I don't know where
my brain was at. If I was still drunk. I
don't even know. But it was like that's something you'd remember,
but I just remember I got the liquor right, yeah,
and my thumb was all jacked up and blue and purple,

(33:50):
and I was just like whatever, and like all three.
When I was in treatment the last time, it was
like still growing out and it was kind of weird
people like you. I was like, well that God was
teaching lesson you know, he was probably don't go in there,
don't do it. And then the time they admired when
I was sneaking up to the line and I was
in a shift order and they bought some alcohol and
I was like, yeah, I'll take that, and I'm in

(34:12):
the aisle and I'm like, you know what, daddy can
have some tonight, you know, I'm like, all right, cool,
I get them for me, and then I go and I
see the self check out line. There's two dudes from
AA there, really old guy and this other younger guy.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
And I was like, what the hell. I was like,
what are they doing together? Scooter what's his name? Scooter
was older guy, he was friends with my grandfather and
the other guy. But I was like, shoot, I'm not
getting behind them. So I crept through like the panties
and everything like, went all the way up to the
other side.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
And this was in bent harber Meyer and they had
one person, a real person on the register back then.
And so I go through that. I'm like, all right,
cool and just ringing up my stuff and pay for
the shipped order. And I turn around and here come
these two guys right behind me, and they're looking at

(35:12):
me and see me pay for the shipped order, and
then they see me pull out another card, my card
to pay for the other one. They're just looking. They're
trying to talk to me and like, what's up, man?

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Are you doing?

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Okay? Yeah, it's okay. I'm like, yeah, it's a shipped order.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, are you good? You want to hit a meeting sometime,
you know? And I'm like no, no, I'm good to go, man.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
I'm good to go, and one of the worst relapses ever.
Even in the parking lot. They're like, were walking out
and they're like, Corey, you good and I was like, yeah, yeah,
I'm good.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
See you later.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Oh that was God's wake up call. What are you
sure you want to go through with us? Are you good?
You saw them then, and they're like yeah, the registers
were down, you know. I'm like, ah, like why you know?

Speaker 2 (35:56):
So like me seeing them, there was opportunity number one, Corey,
do the right thing now, Okay, So I walk away,
he makes the register's break. They come behind me again
like all right, dude, what's up? All right, there's another
chance Corey now. And then in the parking lot still.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Now, yeah, you had three chances.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
And I swear it's like it was even telling somebody.
I don't remember if it was in jail or treatment
or whatever it was, but I was like, it's like.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
He just told the devil, Okay, you can have him
for the weekend.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Man.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
I want them back though.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
So I'm surprised you haven't talked about this on a podcast.
Oh wait, that's right. We don't do them all the
time anymore. But Fantasy football this year you're killing it,
am I, And I'm scraping knuckles at the bottom of
the pool.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
I don't think I'm killing it. I think I'm like
a one place above you.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Football gambling change football, man, it did, and I don't
like it. I don't believe more games are even being played.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
No.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
I asked all about who's taking money from people, and
think it's all about money. That's all they care about.
And I'm out on football, and that's how I kind
of feel. And they ruined their sport, and maybe baseball
has been ruined for a while. They lost me on
the ghost Runners. They lost them when they lost me,
when they took away the drama. And for the people
who want to right here, right now with this game,
it's not for you. Go watch a different sport. Watch

(37:16):
basketball that's more fast paced. Baseball was the drama. It
was Roger Clemens thrown at somebody. It was Roger Clemens
throwing a bat back, you know, it was Mike Piazza.
It was it was these pitchers and these bat and
these battles that they got into with these people, not like, hey,
you got thirty sirets, throw the ball up there up well,
hit a home run. No, no shit, you know, like
you didn't even work the mind, and baseball is so mental.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
It's a mental sport. Yeah, and you took that out
of it.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
And now like they had one guy hit over three hundred,
hit three h two or something ridiculous, like that's dumb.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Like I just don't get it. I don't get it.
And the ghost Runners and.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
The you lost me baseball, You lost me, And unfortunately
you don't care. You know, whatever generation you're going for,
I hope they have a lot of money, and I
hope they're buying into your sport.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
But come on, hockey, can we start.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
A classic league or something? You know, they play with
the old r old rules. I think a lot of
people will still watch it. I would, right.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
I mean I always enjoyed baseball, but I never really
understood it because no one around me really watched baseball
when I grew up, that makes any sense. You know,
people watch football, a lot of people watch basketball, and
I just I mean, I don't know the rules to basketball,
so that's kind of poopy. But like hockey, Like I

(38:31):
loved watching hockey growing up as a kid because you
never know if the ice skating rink was going to
turn red where they crispy white. You know, was it
gonna be a bad rumble between the Bruins and Red
Wings that night? Who knows, you know, it could be
a slaughter match, you know. But hockey was that physical

(38:54):
sport that really just cream people. You know. It's like
I like watching rugby because people just get blasted for
a whole reason.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
I like the sports where you can see the players,
you know, like in baseball you can see them, you know,
like it's it feels personal, you know, And same thing
kind of with basketball too. It feels personal, like you
feel them. You know, they're not wearing all kinds of armor,
you know. I mean baseball players you do a little
bit with the pads and stuff and the helmet when
they're batting, but the most part, like that's what they
kind of look like. But no, I don't know, I

(39:28):
guess it can be the same. Well, no, it's not
an offer for football or rugby, so no. But you're
just like the.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Violence of it all.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
So that's something you should probably talk to your therapist about,
but I probably should. Yeah, anyway, I'm glad you're doing well.
We never really talked about that part of it, but oh,
I'm doing great man, personal life great? Am I a
great woman? I don't know. And of August somewhere around there,

(39:54):
it was still nice out because I know I was
riding my bike. Uh. I asked her to go matter
on on a dating app.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Let's talk about this this woman. So you were just
at home one night and you were thinking, I want
to put myself out there, or you were already on
this dating site.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Well, well, I decided to put myself back out there
because I was trying to see someone through the summer
and I wanted more. And they did it, and it happens,
and that's nothing wrong. You know. People are just at
different places in their life and that's okay, you know, right,
wish them well and just move on. So I hod
back on there, and you know, and it was just

(40:33):
one of those things. I asked her if she wanted
go out for a bike ride, and it just kind
of happened, you know. She came back. She watched some
Disney movie, not really for sure, that's.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
What the freaks do, and I always want to watch
Disney movies. I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
I'm not I have met your girlfriend, and I don't
mean to offend her or her family by calling her that.
Oh no, I'm just past experience or just experience in
my life.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
I love my wife. I like my life too, But
I said wife. But I said life okay, But.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
With you were so you were sitting around, You're like,
all right, cool, I'm gonna throw this other Is that?
Is that the pickup line you hit women with, Hey,
you want to ride my bike?

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Honestly, I'm not really she looked like a biker chick.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Is that a thing?

Speaker 1 (41:25):
No? Actually she looked. I think that is a thing
biker chicks. Actually, she's your age?

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Whoa what you're trying to say?

Speaker 1 (41:32):
She's old?

Speaker 3 (41:32):
Wait? Hold on?

Speaker 2 (41:33):
I asked if she looked like a biker chicken. Then
I asked, is that a thing? You still don't reply?
But then I thought to myself, I said no, I
answered my damn self.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
I said no.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
I was getting there and I was just saying, like,
she's like your age. To keep up.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Then, yeah, then you start calling me old.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
I didn't call you old because I would never call
her old. But anyways, does she look like a biker chick?
M No, she's your age? No? Actually her picture looked
made her look very sophisticated, put together you know, like
like she like enjoyed herself, if that makes any sense.

(42:10):
You know, It's not like it wasn't like a professional headshot,
but but you know, but but she did like a
totally does not dick pic. It wasn't a headshot, you
know what I mean. But you know her, she took
time to to like take a nice picture, you know,
made sure she was wearing something nice, and that wasn't

(42:32):
all revealing that like just put them out there, make
them look like they were little hussies when you know,
and then you start messages and then well, I'm not
like that. Well how can your pictures say one thing
and your your language says another? You know, so I
try to stay away from those ones. And she I

(42:55):
don't know, it just kind of happened. She told me
she rode motorcycles in the past and whatnot. And I
was like, cool, Well, anytime you want to go out
and ride one, you know and watch sunset, just let
me know. And it was like the next day, She's like, well,
I got Friday off, I don't got to work Friday.
I was like, well, sweet, you just want to me
at my place? And then we can leave from there,
and we ended up riding up to Charlie Boy watching

(43:18):
the base up, I mean, watching the sunset on the
shore and stuff.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
So you kissed her? I did you lay the mac down?
I laid a kiss and then was the sunsetting as
you laid the kiss?

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (43:33):
You other sit out there as you pull out your
phone were listening to jelly roll. No, we weren't even
listening to me. Somebody Safe.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
She started playing that. You just throw it in the water,
don't pay any attention. Just keep walking, right, you know,
rich people, Just get back on your boat. Go over
there over here, right? No, we don't do we look
like we own a boat.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
U up.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Just let us we're trying to kiss this lady. But no,
we came back to my place. I was like, well
you want to stay and watch a movie or something.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Wait, so hold on, so you're at charloaoaow kiss it
on her?

Speaker 3 (44:07):
How'd that go?

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (44:08):
How would you rate it? How would you rate that?

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Kiss?

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Your baby? Very careful?

Speaker 1 (44:11):
If she knows around this podcast today, Oh she don't know. Okay,
nobody knows I'm here unless they're tracking my location on
my phone.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
How would you rate that? First kiss, How would you
rate your performance on that first kiss?

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Oh? Man, I was trying to nail it for sure,
So I'm going to give myself one hundred Okay, I
gave that little extra so you give ten percent?

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, okay, so confused just for doing a one to
ten scale, you throughout one hundred. Then you say you
did one hundred percent, but then you said you're undred
ten percent, which really is only ten percent because of
giving one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Is what you'd normally give. Oh, so if you're going
to give.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Double, if you want to, like, man, I gave it
my all plus some, you got to go I give
it my all plus some, you'd have to be like
one hundred and fifty.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Percent or oh is that how that goes? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Okay, then you're really just really giving it fifty percent effort. Anyway,
that's here, And are there no math major? I could
have that all wrong, but.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
But normally taking the extra step, it's one hundred and
ten percent, you know, like give it one hundred ten
percent is really just ten Yeah, I don't know for
math majors.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
I think that's a math major because I'm not one,
and I believe that's how that goes and I could
be correct ninety eight percent sure, but no it is.
So you rate yourself, No, no, no, you're trying it out
of this. So you rate yourself on this first kiss? Yeah,
out of ten, ten, ten, So you think you you

(45:43):
did a really good job with that kiss.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
So I tried.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
We were to ask her on the next episode. She
would say, well, he he tried a ten, but he
really was a bluep So I want you now to
rate her.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Rate her?

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Yeah, what was it was her kiss?

Speaker 1 (46:02):
It would be right there with mine. I'd say about
a ten. There's a lot of passions to cover for
both sides.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
About a ten, yeah, So like it was one of
those that just knocked your socks off of your like
holy cow, like that kind of damn.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
I was like, what what else can you do with that? Both?

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Well, okay, okay, so okay, So you think she was
trying at ten too? Oh yeah, okay, oh yeah, her
effort and her ability both matched. Oh yeah, so you're
just wow, this is great. So then you're like, let's
go back to my crib charlote.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Well, no, we started riding back Chili ride back, and
I kind of felt bad because I was kind of
a little chill that. She was like, wearing a lot
less than me. And I'm like, but I kind of
feel bad. She was like, no, I'm warm. I'm like
you sure. She was like, hey, you're blacking all the air.
I'm like, oh, well that makes a lot of sense.
You're only four foot eleven and I don't in front,

(46:59):
No I should have. Yeah, you take that win. I'm
the daddy. I don't ride motorcycles. IM not dying that way.
I'll die that way. It'll be the best way ever.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Okay, not me ye.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
But anyways, so we came back and I was like what.
I was like, what do you want to come in
and watch a movie or something? You know, my brother's here,
my daughters. I think Justine was there, maybe not, maybe
she was already at a friend's house or somewhere. And
I was like, you know, we can hang out in
the living room, we can go to my room. You know,
it really don't matter, you know, wherever you feel comfortable,

(47:39):
you know, And she's like, well, we can go to
your room, and then you know, here comes to Disney
and I'm just like mm hmm, I've been warned about this,
and like I was like I was like, this is
where you find the keepers, is the ones that you
watch Disney movie and then you know you hopefully you
remember it from childhood because probably not going to finish

(48:01):
watching it. Whoa, yeah, I'll go yeah, past experience. Ye see.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Well I'm glad that you're happy, man, and I'm glad
that she's doing it for you. And hopefully you guys
can keep that going and hopefully good things can keep
having it in your life.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
And that's that's all you can do, man, is what
you can control.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Yeah, you know, that's what you have to worry about,
and the things directly right in front of you, you know,
or things you can control.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
God, want you stop going to McDonald's. You're welcome, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Lord.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Now we get it, you know.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Sometimes it takes a minute, yeah, because.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
That stuff will kill you. And it's just not If
you want to enjoy her once in a while, that's fine.
But if it becomes a habit and it becomes good
and it is good and it is delicious, I get it.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Oh, speaking of fast food, I heard this today. It
came up as a notification because I'm on AX of course. Yeah,
and they said something about there's nine states that does this,
but not everybody real they do. What the snap betters
you're allowed to go buy fast food? Well, anyways, in

(49:04):
these nine states they have spent over I'm pretty sure
they said, like over five billion dollars and stamp benefits
on fast food. And they're like, well, where's the nutrition
value coming in? And this fast food? Is that what
they end in snap stands for is nutrition? Oh, they're

(49:27):
not dying and what the people eating it?

Speaker 3 (49:31):
I mean, that's all they got.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
And if it's cheaper than buying whatever's at the store,
you know, like what are they supposed to do?

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Man?

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Like what if it's next to the house and it's
like that's all they got through the store is twenty
miles away and they got to catch a bus and
pay for that.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
I'm just say there's I was like, what, really five
billion dollars in nine states? Which I get it though,
because and I get why these states do do it,
and you know, and certain people are trying to really
make fun of it. But if you are truly one

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hundred percent homeless, how can you go to a grocery
store buy food, prepare it and cook it? You can't?
Yeah it, So these crazy people out here that are
saying this though it all actuality. This just goes to
show you that, well, maybe in certain communities we need

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to have like a community kitchen, you know, where people
could come in prep their meals, make a meal for
the day. You know. You got to sign up, you know,
and you get an hour to use the kitchen, but
you have an hour to prep meals for the day
for yourself, you know. And maybe we want to have
people eating fast food and it's spending over five billion

(50:51):
dollars on fast food, and then they try to make
it look like people are just being fat lazy, but
would you actually break it down. The homeless community don't
have means like you do in your house. You know.
They don't have a refrigerator, they don't have a stove.
Those are two vital things that we need to be
able to eat and survive. And when those are granted

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to us, we have to go other places to make
I'm sure our needs are not I mean our needs
are met. Our met is needs. I almost made it,
man almost made it. Almost.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
No, but that's a good point though, justin really is
and what are people really doing? And a lot of
people they just have the wrong tactic or the wrong thinking,
like oh, they were spending five million, instead of asking, well,
why are they spending it, like because we're not providing
something for them, you know, because and then they don't
want to look at that five like they could say
all right, let's not allow that.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
But in those.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Communities or those states, here's what we're gonna do. We're
going to build these test kitchens that kids from the
high schools or kids from culinary school or whoever can
come and you can get college credit for cooking there,
and you can lead a team and volunteers, and you can.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Use your snap benefits there because you know it is
going to be a nutritious meal and a cost effective meals.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Or it's just free community mails here it is, yeah
either or you know, like if you're spending that money
on fast food anyway, like take that money. Okay, we've
got five would you say million or billion?

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:23):
If I think they said over five billion's take five trillion,
let's take Okay, well then take five billion, you know,
and each let's build them, like let's do it, you know,
like that would be easy. Pay the staff, pay the people,
and let's go. Yep, But nobody wants to think like
that and I don't understand why, Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Then the people won't be able to get it to there. Well,
then you got the other side of the coin, though, too,
is well, now you're just preaching socialism, which granted is
two totally different things, you know, not.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Anything I'm preaching like let's have people, let's.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, common sense stuff. But you know,
you get those extremists that are like, oh, well, now
you're just gonna turn everything like New York, And I'm like, no,
that's not even the case. You know, you can't provide
every service for free in this world. But but but
when you have homeless going hungry and they're spending all
this money on fast food, why couldn't you have a

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community kitchen that is paid for by with these dollars already?
You know, it makes perfect sense to me. There's enough
of them. Yeah, it really is. People like, oh, there's
not funding, there's not money. Oh, there's money in these buildings.
Don't have to be any state of the arc buildings,
you know, I mean, I mean, shoot, most prison systems

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now we just put up pole barns and put beds
in them, you know. Yeah, this is so I mean,
do we really have to get all architectural about it
and be like, well, we have this magnificent community kitchen.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Yeah, why not?

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Would be like, you know, you can restore a really
cool building and turn it into like something really cool
and have it kind of restaurant and style. I mean,
there's so many things you could do, man Like, it
would be it would be so much fun and it
would be ridiculous how much fun and how much community
involvement you would have with that. You know, it's just like, hey,
we do free breakfast, we do free meals here. This

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is what we have. This is what we are putting
out every day. And I don't know, there's and maybe
that's not how you do it directly, but there is
a way to do it, and that would be awesome
where people could get some kind of credit for it
for college or I mean, so people are learning and
you know, maybe some of the people that are coming
through there can start volunteering and go, you know, this
is where I want to do and.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Find their way in life. Who knows, yeh. Or we
can just let them get fast food and that's that's
cool too. Whatever.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Nothing see here, it's fine. Man, it's cool or a
bitch about.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Those people shouldn't have nothing, right, you should have nothing,
They should have dirt. Yeah, I'm not one of those
type people. I'm not that cool to get one sleep
bag every year. It's it.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
I don't know, man, like want sleep a bag year?

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Have you lived in Michigan being homeless?

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Some people too much?

Speaker 1 (55:12):
I want sleeping bag a year.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
I'm just saying, you know, if if we can actually
help people and help understand, I think that yeah, it would.
It's a long way. And you're not gonna make everybody understand.
That's cool, and they're going to get the people who
want to help but don't want to get down and dirty.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
And that's cool too.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Man.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
They got check books, you know, because those people are
needed too. And it just takes a community. It takes
a lot of people to make change. And nobody likes
changes when comfortable to do it.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
But I kind of welcome change, especially if if there's
some kind of challenge there, if it's going to benefit
the community or yeah, my son's life or your daughter's life.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
You know, like, let's go.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Man. You know, I think you just hit it right
out the nail on the head. You know as you
just said it a key word community. Yeah, there's not
very many communities anymore that are actually communities like they
were one hundred years ago, as far as people engaging
with people. That's what I mean by community. One hundred

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years ago, what a neighbor needed is field plowed. Everybody
showed up with their plows to help a plowers field.
You know, maybe he broke his leg or something, but
people sneaky he was over there with Betty in them.
But anyway, but you know what I mean though, But nowadays,
you break your leg, I bet your neighbor doesn't even
bring come over and say, hey, man, you need anything.

(56:33):
I heard you broke your leg, You need a hand
with anything? Nobody probably even does that hardly anymore. You
want that, though we cannot. I wouldn't want that. I'm
just hm, I see I like old communities like that,
that community.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Uh type, you're dating that older lady?

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Oh? Oh, hold me? Hold is you well? Well, it's
not appropriate to talk about a woman's age if she
looks forty seven. So well, so I'm just saying, d
you know she was your age? I didn't say old,
I just said she was your age. I was trying
to play and now there's some questions I won't even

(57:20):
need to ask, so wow, ruthless beyond ruthless.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Anyway, we got to wrap this up, so thanks Justin
for coming on the podcast.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Thanks Winfield, and I can have you on. Have Yeah.
It's been a great emotion from both sides. It's been
a great podcast. One yeah, thanks for coming in now,
thank you, Thanks for listening to the two seventeen Recovery podcast.
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