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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, Robin Lamley is joining me on the line.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
As we know, she's again well one on a big
majority over the weekend, picking up twenty three hundred and
one votes on the two candidate preferred count. The COLP
is Sean Heenan on two hundred and thirty four. Now
the ALP had struggled really in all of those Central
Australia seats aside from Chancey Pake's Bush seat, and joining
(00:23):
us on the line is a member for Ara Lewin.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Robin Lamley. Good morning to you, Robin.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Good morning Katie.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
A big congratulations to you, Robin.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
And you called it in Central Australia last week when
you said you didn't expect much to change. How are
people in Alice Springs feeling about the change of government?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Well, people in US and thank you, Katie. I appreciate that.
I'm delighted and obviously very relieved, but people in Central
Australia are now very hopeful, hopefully that they are also
realistic though to turn this around is going to take
more than a couple of months, and it just worries
(01:04):
me that people will become really impatient. I mean, it
took years for this labor crime crisis to come about,
and I think it'll take quite some time for the
ceopter fixus. Yeah, we need some patients. But yeah, with
things deteriorating so badly, even over the weekend, again, it's
(01:26):
a big ask. People have just so had enough, Katie.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, and I can only under like, I can totally
understand why Robin, you guys have been grappling with crime
at an extreme level for a long period of time. Now,
I mean Lea Fanocchiero and her deputy Jared Malee obviously
sworn in yesterday, the chief Minister, the new chief Minister
transitioning officers or certainly the commissioner transitioning those officers police
(01:54):
officers from their playing clothes into their uniforms. But this
is obviously something Leofanokio wants to see happen, that high
visibility policing. It's a small move. Do you think it's
a move in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Look, Katie, I'm just trying not to be too cynical
or critical to I really want to cut the colp
some slack here. Look, those symbolic sort of things are important,
and you know, Leah has to look like she's doing
something very quickly. And her options would be very very slim,
(02:33):
and doing things like this can I suppose have some impact?
So good Honor. She's trying hard, and as long as
people feel like she is trying, I think they'll be
satisfied for the short term.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Robin, you know, for the people of Alice Springs and
for yourself, what are you really hoping to see from
this new government?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Well, look, Katie, turning this around is going to be
virtually impossible in the short to medium and even longer term.
So I guess just some relief, some measures that visibly
make a difference and make people think, gee with I
(03:24):
can feel that we're a bit safer than what we
were a couple of months ago. Look, and as I said, Katie,
those options are so slim. I mean, who were these
people causing a muck in Alice Springs on the weekend.
We're led to believe that they may have been people
from out of town coming into Alice Springs for the
(03:45):
football carnival that was held in Alice Springs over the weekend.
So yeah, even hearing that the council are putting some
limitations on gained competition bush finals then played in Alice,
that all helps but yes, Leah would be under and
(04:06):
her team will be under enormous pressure. I really don't
think they'll have long before people start to feel like
there's no change and any optimism they had will disappear
if things don't start to look just even slightly different.
So I feel for Leah, but you know, she's a fighter.
(04:29):
She's coming with her eyes open. She's not a stranger
to politics. She's very experienced. So I just hope that
they can make a difference.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yes, so do I.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I think the whole of the Northern Territory is hoping
that because you know, if the territory is thriving, or
if she's thriving as the Chief Minister, you know, the
Northern Territory is thriving, and that's everybody's hope, Like, we
want to see her do a good job. And I
think that that's what we saw on the weekend is
people voted to change. I want to see that change,
and they're putting their faith in her.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Katie. I think if I was Leah, I would just
be really honest and open about the struggle and what
she's doing. I mean, what we've had under Labor for
eight years is deception and spin and complete disingenuous messaging
(05:25):
around crime and what they were doing. So my advice
would be just keep it completely honest and people will
respect that it's being treated like idiots that people I
think took exception to, particularly down in Central Australia. Labour's
been wiped out down here, apart from ironically Chancey Paig,
(05:45):
who was up to his neck in instigating what I
think were very dangerous and bad policies for a long time.
For him to survive is really quite unfair in some
ways when you know other people have lost their seas
than he hasn't. But look, just keep it honest, keep
it really That would be my advice, and people will
(06:09):
respect that you're at least having a red hot crack
at it.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, I agree with you, Robert. I want to ask you.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I'm not sure whether you've seen this, but the Australian
newspapers this morning reporting that Northern Territory police were too
busy to conduct a welfare check on an Aboriginal woman
nine hours before she was found allegedly murdered by her partner,
who'd been banned from contacting her for two decades. So
this is according to a report by Leah Mendez this
morning that well, last Thursday, we know that this man
(06:40):
who was previously known to police for domestic violence, was
charged with murdering his forty three year old partner after
she was found dead at a home in Darwin's Northern Suburbs.
Now sources have told the Australian newspaper that the police
were unable to attend at that welfare check, which was
requested by Territory Families at three pm the day before
(07:00):
for her death because of higher priority incidents. I mean,
I'm not about to attack the police on this. I
think this is more a matter of demonstrating just how
badly we need more resources and how badly we need
to think differently when it comes to domestic violence.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Look, I did read that story earlier this morning, Katie,
and it just knocked me sideways. As you say, just
the enormous pressure on the police and the fact that
we've got national policies and so much money flying around
to try and prevent domestic violence and we just continue
to fail on all front. I mean, there's just something
(07:44):
fundamentally wrong about how we're going about all this. But
what I do think is that maybe it's time to
have a specialist team that does this and nothing else,
because we know that women in those situations are incredibly vulnerable,
incredibly at risk, and this is just another awful, awful
(08:05):
story of a woman that's being killed under those circumstances.
So maybe they just need an absolute dedicated team that
does that no matter what else is going on. As
a matter of.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, look, it might be something that the new government
needs to have a look at, Robin before I let
you go, just a very quick one in terms of
this ministry that's going to be you know that's going
to be announced next week. We've had a few people
saying that they think you should be the speaker.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Do you think that'll happen.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Look, I'd be surprised because Leah now has a huge team,
sixteen or seventeen people. She'll have a lot of favors
to pay back. I would be surprised, but quite open
to the offer.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Ish, I think you'd be a great speaker, although we
sort of need you on the cross bench asking questions.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Oh that's right. Yeah, it's something I haven't done before.
But look, it's probably not going to happen, and I'll
continue to just do the job that I am doing,
and that's all that I ever wanted to be honest.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Katie, Yeah, good on you, Robin.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
We're really pleased to see that result. I know a
lot of people really pleased to see that you've been
re elected. Thank you so much for your time and
for your effort. Thank you good stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Thanks Robin,
Well, Robin Lamley is joining me on the line.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
As we know, she's again well one on a big
majority over the weekend, picking up twenty three hundred and
one votes on the two candidate preferred count. The COLP
is Sean Heenan on two hundred and thirty four. Now
the ALP had struggled really in all of those Central
Australia seats aside from Chancey Pake's Bush seat, and joining
(00:23):
us on the line is a member for Ara Lewin.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Robin Lamley. Good morning to you, Robin.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Good morning Katie.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
A big congratulations to you, Robin.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
And you called it in Central Australia last week when
you said you didn't expect much to change. How are
people in Alice Springs feeling about the change of government?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Well, people in US and thank you, Katie. I appreciate that.
I'm delighted and obviously very relieved, but people in Central
Australia are now very hopeful, hopefully that they are also
realistic though to turn this around is going to take
more than a couple of months, and it just worries
(01:04):
me that people will become really impatient. I mean, it
took years for this labor crime crisis to come about,
and I think it'll take quite some time for the
ceopter fixus. Yeah, we need some patients. But yeah, with
things deteriorating so badly, even over the weekend, again, it's
(01:26):
a big ask. People have just so had enough, Katie.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, and I can only under like, I can totally
understand why Robin, you guys have been grappling with crime
at an extreme level for a long period of time. Now,
I mean Lea Fanocchiero and her deputy Jared Malee obviously
sworn in yesterday, the chief Minister, the new chief Minister
transitioning officers or certainly the commissioner transitioning those officers police
(01:54):
officers from their playing clothes into their uniforms. But this
is obviously something Leofanokio wants to see happen, that high
visibility policing. It's a small move. Do you think it's
a move in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Look, Katie, I'm just trying not to be too cynical
or critical to I really want to cut the colp
some slack here. Look, those symbolic sort of things are important,
and you know, Leah has to look like she's doing
something very quickly. And her options would be very very slim,
(02:33):
and doing things like this can I suppose have some impact?
So good Honor. She's trying hard, and as long as
people feel like she is trying, I think they'll be
satisfied for the short term.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Robin, you know, for the people of Alice Springs and
for yourself, what are you really hoping to see from
this new government?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Well, look, Katie, turning this around is going to be
virtually impossible in the short to medium and even longer term.
So I guess just some relief, some measures that visibly
make a difference and make people think, gee with I
(03:24):
can feel that we're a bit safer than what we
were a couple of months ago. Look, and as I said, Katie,
those options are so slim. I mean, who were these
people causing a muck in Alice Springs on the weekend.
We're led to believe that they may have been people
from out of town coming into Alice Springs for the
(03:45):
football carnival that was held in Alice Springs over the weekend.
So yeah, even hearing that the council are putting some
limitations on gained competition bush finals then played in Alice,
that all helps but yes, Leah would be under and
(04:06):
her team will be under enormous pressure. I really don't
think they'll have long before people start to feel like
there's no change and any optimism they had will disappear
if things don't start to look just even slightly different.
So I feel for Leah, but you know, she's a fighter.
(04:29):
She's coming with her eyes open. She's not a stranger
to politics. She's very experienced. So I just hope that
they can make a difference.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yes, so do I.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I think the whole of the Northern Territory is hoping
that because you know, if the territory is thriving, or
if she's thriving as the Chief Minister, you know, the
Northern Territory is thriving, and that's everybody's hope, Like, we
want to see her do a good job. And I
think that that's what we saw on the weekend is
people voted to change. I want to see that change,
and they're putting their faith in her.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Katie. I think if I was Leah, I would just
be really honest and open about the struggle and what
she's doing. I mean, what we've had under Labor for
eight years is deception and spin and complete disingenuous messaging
(05:25):
around crime and what they were doing. So my advice
would be just keep it completely honest and people will
respect that it's being treated like idiots that people I
think took exception to, particularly down in Central Australia. Labour's
been wiped out down here, apart from ironically Chancey Paig,
(05:45):
who was up to his neck in instigating what I
think were very dangerous and bad policies for a long time.
For him to survive is really quite unfair in some
ways when you know other people have lost their seas
than he hasn't. But look, just keep it honest, keep
it really That would be my advice, and people will
(06:09):
respect that you're at least having a red hot crack
at it.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, I agree with you, Robert. I want to ask you.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I'm not sure whether you've seen this, but the Australian
newspapers this morning reporting that Northern Territory police were too
busy to conduct a welfare check on an Aboriginal woman
nine hours before she was found allegedly murdered by her partner,
who'd been banned from contacting her for two decades. So
this is according to a report by Leah Mendez this
morning that well, last Thursday, we know that this man
(06:40):
who was previously known to police for domestic violence, was
charged with murdering his forty three year old partner after
she was found dead at a home in Darwin's Northern Suburbs.
Now sources have told the Australian newspaper that the police
were unable to attend at that welfare check, which was
requested by Territory Families at three pm the day before
(07:00):
for her death because of higher priority incidents. I mean,
I'm not about to attack the police on this. I
think this is more a matter of demonstrating just how
badly we need more resources and how badly we need
to think differently when it comes to domestic violence.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Look, I did read that story earlier this morning, Katie,
and it just knocked me sideways. As you say, just
the enormous pressure on the police and the fact that
we've got national policies and so much money flying around
to try and prevent domestic violence and we just continue
to fail on all front. I mean, there's just something
(07:44):
fundamentally wrong about how we're going about all this. But
what I do think is that maybe it's time to
have a specialist team that does this and nothing else,
because we know that women in those situations are incredibly vulnerable,
incredibly at risk, and this is just another awful, awful
(08:05):
story of a woman that's being killed under those circumstances.
So maybe they just need an absolute dedicated team that
does that no matter what else is going on. As
a matter of.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, look, it might be something that the new government
needs to have a look at, Robin before I let
you go, just a very quick one in terms of
this ministry that's going to be you know that's going
to be announced next week. We've had a few people
saying that they think you should be the speaker.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Do you think that'll happen.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Look, I'd be surprised because Leah now has a huge team,
sixteen or seventeen people. She'll have a lot of favors
to pay back. I would be surprised, but quite open
to the offer.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Ish, I think you'd be a great speaker, although we
sort of need you on the cross bench asking questions.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Oh that's right. Yeah, it's something I haven't done before.
But look, it's probably not going to happen, and I'll
continue to just do the job that I am doing,
and that's all that I ever wanted to be honest.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Katie, Yeah, good on you, Robin.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
We're really pleased to see that result. I know a
lot of people really pleased to see that you've been
re elected. Thank you so much for your time and
for your effort. Thank you good stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Thanks Robin,
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