Clash of the Titans

In this episode, Anna and Derek chat about the core memories formed from the Medusa sequence, exactly why Thetis is hanging out on Mount Olympus, and much more during their discussion of the Ray Harryhausen showcase Clash of the Titans (1981).

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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_00 (00:08):
My lord Poseidon, I command you to raise the wind
and the sea.
Destroy Agoth! And to makecertain that no stone stands,
that no creature crawls, Icommand you to let loose the
last of the titans.
Let loose the cracker! Thekingdom of the creatures must be

(00:30):
destroyed as you command.

SPEAKER_01 (00:33):
Hello and welcome to 80s movie montage.
This is Derek.

SPEAKER_03 (00:36):
And this Sienna.

SPEAKER_01 (00:37):
And that was Lawrence Olivier as Zeus.
And real briefly, right at theend there was uh Jack Willem as
Poseidon.
In 1981's The Clash of theTitans.
Oh, I'm sorry, Clash of theTitans.
There's no the.

SPEAKER_03 (00:51):
There's no the.

SPEAKER_01 (00:52):
It's just Clash of the Titans.

SPEAKER_03 (00:54):
Lawrence fucking Olivier.

SPEAKER_01 (00:56):
It's it reminds me a little bit of like Orson Wells
as Unicron in the Transformersmovie.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03):
Well, we've talked about that now a couple times.
About them grabbing these likelauded older actors for a lot of
these 80s movies across genres.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16):
Just to have a little bit of street cred.
Although this movie has a lot ofstreet cred, actually.
It does.
Um which is wild that like amovie like this has so many
Clash of the Titans.

SPEAKER_01 (01:30):
It's it was hard to find.
I mean, everyone knows therelease the Kraken from from um
the remake.

SPEAKER_03 (01:38):
Like I feel like that line got the two 2010.
It's it's not watched it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:43):
Yeah.
I mean, to the extent thatthere's like the only thing
keeping me connected with thisone is nostalgia.
Cracked.
When you take that out, there'slike Liam Neeson saying like
release the Kraken in a reallycool way.

SPEAKER_03 (01:55):
Which it's like isn't enough for God why Kraken,
not Greek mythology.
Did like we'll we'll we'll diveinto all this.

SPEAKER_01 (02:04):
Was Medusa a Titan?
Was a Gorgon a Titan?
I don't think so.

SPEAKER_03 (02:08):
There's like monsters.
Different types of creatures.

SPEAKER_01 (02:13):
Nevertheless.
Uh nevertheless.
Maybe that was the clash.

SPEAKER_03 (02:17):
Well, okay, sure.
Sure.
Yeah, actually, now that I'mactually thinking about the
title of the film.

SPEAKER_01 (02:25):
No, it meant to say that it was like this um the
deuce ahead versus the Kraken.
That's the clash.
That's interesting.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:31):
Okay.
Okay.
Uh yeah, same with me.
This was uh the first time in avery long time that I had
watched the entire film.

SPEAKER_02 (02:41):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:42):
For whatever reason.
Don't know if it was on TV alot.
Don't know if I just caught itat a certain point in my
childhood.

SPEAKER_01 (02:47):
It was on all the time.

SPEAKER_03 (02:49):
Okay.
Yeah.
Then thank you for saying that.
Because like for some reason Iwas like, why is this one of the
movies that I saw so much as akid?
And especially that whole I wassaying saying as much when we
were watching it, that Medusasequence is like seared in my
brain.

SPEAKER_02 (03:04):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (03:04):
Like I remember every single moment of that
particular sequence.
Maybe because it was it wasscary as a kid.

SPEAKER_01 (03:10):
Yeah, absolutely.
It was it was like the effectswere like really ambitious for
the time.
They they are pretty comical nowalmost.
Yeah, but like you said.

SPEAKER_03 (03:22):
But Medusa's probably like the best of like
how that actually um during thatsequence, when you see the head,
the head of snakes in shadowagainst the wall, it's like, oh
my god, like core memoryunlocked.

SPEAKER_01 (03:38):
They did that a few times, like when when Zeus was
uh talking about what was it,Calabos?

SPEAKER_03 (03:44):
The not the made-up son of Thetis.
Is that who you're talkingabout?

SPEAKER_01 (03:49):
Yeah, when he like they have like all their little
uh collectible figurines oftheir favorite humans, I
suppose.

SPEAKER_03 (03:56):
Favorite and not favorite.

SPEAKER_01 (03:57):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And when he was talking abouthow he was gonna really like
disfigure him, it like pans awayfrom the figure to just show the
shadow, the animation, which wenever saw him as just a human
man, right?

SPEAKER_03 (04:09):
I don't think so.
Yeah, we only saw him as like adisgusting creature.
It's it's a really interestingmovie because like look, I'm
very admittedly a little rustyin my Greek mythology, but I've
and maybe that's why I saw thismovie also as a lot as a kid, or
maybe this is why I love Greekmythology, because I'm a little
rusty, but I'm also having satdown to watch.

(04:30):
You know who else?

SPEAKER_01 (04:31):
You know who else was rusty on their Greek
mythology?

SPEAKER_03 (04:33):
The screenwriter.

SPEAKER_01 (04:34):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (04:34):
Well, that's the thing, is that like, look, I
think I've said it before, butthe Greek myths are the they're
the original stories.
You really don't need to messwith them too much.
Like there and and the thing is,is that like there are different
versions of the same story.
So there is there is that.
So like there are us there arecertain stories where you can

(04:57):
say, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pickthis lane, but you don't need to
just totally make up shit thatwasn't even a myth.

SPEAKER_01 (05:04):
Counterpoint, those Greeks never really took into
account how it would look onfilm.

SPEAKER_03 (05:09):
Sure.
So let's dive in and we'll startwith uh not to speak ill of the
dead, Beverly Cross.
So Beverly is a gentleman justso that you're aware.
Okay.
Okay, uh he passed in 1998, andhe this this was like right up

(05:29):
his alley.
This is like the kind of I thinkhe was um primarily a prey uh
playwright, pardon me, uh, whoalso did screenwriting.
And when you look at some of hiscredits, it's like, oh sure.
And then actually these creditswill be repeated uh a couple
times over, I think, justbecause a lot of this crew
worked together on like similarproperties.

(05:51):
So yeah.
Some of his other creditsinclude Jason and the Argonauts.

SPEAKER_01 (05:55):
That's the big one where that's the big one, where
there were like a lot of likesimilarities in the effects and
yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (06:03):
Yep, similar people who took part in that film.
Genghis Khan, Sinbad, and Eye ofthe Tiger.

SPEAKER_01 (06:09):
Wow.
Yes, this gives me like Rockyvibes, even though I know that's
not what it's about.

SPEAKER_03 (06:16):
No, and actually I was like, huh, I've never seen
any of those Sinbad movies, butapparently they were popular for
a while.
And then uh presumably becausehe originated this material, he
has credits on we just mentionedit, the 2010 remake, Flash of
the Titans, as well as I did noteven know that this was a movie.
Uh there was a sequel in 2012called Wrath of the Titans.

SPEAKER_01 (06:39):
I haven't seen Wrath of the Titans, but I did see, I
did watch the 2010 remake, andlike I said, it just without
that nostalgia and charm.
So maybe people watched it likecoming in fresh, and that's like
it did for them what the 80sversion did for me.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 (06:55):
And also just uh, you know, whether or not this is
interesting to people or not,many of the people both behind
and in front of the screen, likelargely British, uh UK-based,
had that kind of background.
And actually, one thing that'svery interesting about Mr.
Cross, he is married or wasmarried to one of the actresses

(07:17):
in this movie.
His wife was Maggie Smith.

SPEAKER_01 (07:20):
Wow.

SPEAKER_03 (07:21):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (07:22):
Yeah, there was a lot going on.

SPEAKER_03 (07:23):
There's a lot going on in this uh in this film.

SPEAKER_01 (07:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (07:26):
And actually, all those things that are going on
are more interesting to me thanthe actual story of the film, if
I'm being really honest.

SPEAKER_01 (07:34):
Well, you probably had to dig a little bit for some
of this information as opposedto the exposition, the movie
kept Oh my God, exposition upthe Wahoo.

SPEAKER_03 (07:43):
Uh yeah.
I mean, I feel bad.
He look, he certainly wasn't theonly person crazy with
exposition, but Olivier'scharacter of Zeus just all he he
didn't actually do anything.
He just like told us a lot ofstuff.
Now, I know that during thefilming of this film, filming of

(08:05):
this film, he was not well.
He actually wasn't well for thelast like couple decades of his
life.
So he I don't know if there wasmaybe an original idea to have
him literally do more.
Because even all the scenes withthe gods, yeah.
I They're all just standingthere.
Yeah.
Like nothing, there's no kineticenergy, there's nothing, it's

(08:27):
all just them standing therelistening to him, or a couple
back and forths with a couple ofthem.

SPEAKER_01 (08:32):
But I mean, there was certainly room to have the
other gods doing more behindZeus's back.

SPEAKER_03 (08:38):
For sure.
That's how they worked.

SPEAKER_01 (08:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (08:40):
That's like how they did things, uh, especially Hera.

SPEAKER_01 (08:43):
So So they could have done that.
It feels like they did what theywanted to.

SPEAKER_03 (08:48):
Maybe a teensy tiny bit.
That's what Athena did becauseshe refused to give up her owl.

SPEAKER_01 (08:53):
So Yeah, without that, we wouldn't have gotten R2
boobo.

SPEAKER_03 (08:57):
Yeah, cute, but you're absolutely right.
That seemed to me likecompletely derivative of just we
need something that's like R2D2.

SPEAKER_01 (09:05):
It very much felt like that.

SPEAKER_03 (09:06):
Like only to the sound, the sound effects.

SPEAKER_01 (09:08):
A little droid owl that only this guy can
understand.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 (09:12):
Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (09:13):
But damn, I did love that little owl.

SPEAKER_03 (09:15):
Yeah, he's cute.
And that was another like corememory.
Um Yeah, like so.
I have, like you said, a lot ofnostalgia.
We'll keep moving forward, butjust we're not gonna stop.
Can't stop one stop.
But uh somewhat, somewhat of afrustrating watch, if I'm being

(09:36):
really honest.

SPEAKER_01 (09:37):
It works really well as a show or movie if uh you're
a kid and you just turn on theTV and it happens to be on maybe
like 40 minutes in already.

SPEAKER_03 (09:45):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (09:46):
You're like, yes.

SPEAKER_03 (09:47):
Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (09:48):
But watching it from the opening credits to the very
end, I'm like, oh, what?

SPEAKER_03 (09:53):
Mm-hmm.
So directed by Desmond Davis, hetoo uh and sorry guys, uh
another episode where a lot ofpeople have passed who are
connected to this film, hepassed in 2021.
So I am gonna go on record, Iguess, as saying that this is
probably his most high-profileproject.
Oh I I think, uh, and goingthrough his other credits, like

(10:17):
some of the other ones that Inoted, uh, just because I
thought this was a very dramatictitle, Time Lost and Time
Remembered.
Smashing Time.
So a couple movies all abouttime.

SPEAKER_01 (10:28):
Yeah, interesting.

SPEAKER_03 (10:29):
A nice girl like me.

SPEAKER_01 (10:31):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (10:32):
Ordeal by innocence, and then a little bit later in
his career, the chief TV series,and and he also just sprinkled
in there did you know, movedaround, worked between film, TV
series, TV movies, that sort ofthing.
So Okay.
Okay, moving on tocinematography.

(10:53):
Probably a name that maybeyou're familiar with, or people
who are fans of the James Bondfranchise are familiar with
because he did a ton of them.
I did not know that he did allthese.
He did a ton of James Bondmovies, so he too has passed.
He passed in 1987.
Uh, let's go through I have allfilms for him.

(11:14):
And he was an Oscar-winning DP,but not for any of the James
Bonds.
I don't I wonder, I wonder umcumulatively how many Oscar noms
James Bond films have gotten.
I would be somebody out thereknows that answer.

SPEAKER_01 (11:27):
I I wonder, like, hmm.
Maybe they maybe there's acouple that would have gotten
something for music.

SPEAKER_03 (11:36):
I think maybe a couple of the songs.

SPEAKER_01 (11:38):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (11:39):
Probably.

SPEAKER_01 (11:39):
In fact, did Billie Eilish get an Oscar for She
might have for uh No Time was itNo Time to Die, which is ironic
because it's the one where hedid in fact die.

SPEAKER_03 (11:51):
Yeah.
Okay.
Uh so his credits include How toMurder a Rich Uncle.

SPEAKER_01 (11:58):
That is very specific.

SPEAKER_03 (12:00):
Very specific.
Wow.
The trials of Oscar Wilde.
And then here we go.
So he was the DP on Dr.
No, From Russia with Love,Goldfinger, Thunderball,
sprinkled in between all theseJames Bond movies.
He gets his best cinematographycolor, because at a certain
point in time they um separatedthem out between color and black

(12:21):
and white.
So he got the Oscar win for AMan for All Seasons, which also
was the best picture winner thatyear.
He then, more James Bond work,Diamonds Are Forever, Live and
Let Die, The Man with the GoldenGun, and then the uh derivative
Orca from Jaws.
Yeah.
Although I'd like to see it.

SPEAKER_01 (12:40):
Well, it makes it makes way more sense because we
know that like Orca's killer arefar more intelligent.
So if you're gonna try toconvince me that like Orcas
don't play.
Yeah, that this that this thingout in the ocean is really
pissed and has a grudge againstpeople.
I can believe I can believe it.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (12:59):
Yeah.
We should do uh we should do atriple header of Orca, Piranha,
and then finish with Jaws.

SPEAKER_01 (13:09):
Yeah.
Don't start with don't startwith Jaws.
It's gotta be all like saltwatercreatures, right?
Well, Piranha.
If we're doing Piranha.

SPEAKER_03 (13:17):
Pranas are in the Amazon River curl.

SPEAKER_01 (13:19):
Yeah, so we might have to throw in like uh Lake
Placid or some other freshwater.

SPEAKER_03 (13:23):
No, I did not like Lake Placid.
Because she was like feeding.

SPEAKER_01 (13:26):
You didn't like Betty White.

SPEAKER_03 (13:28):
She was awful in that.
I mean, she was she was an awfulcharacter in that movie.
All right.
Moving on to music by the firstof two Lawrences we'll be
talking about today, LawrenceRosenthal.
So he is still with us.
Uh don't want to jinx anything.
He'll be turning 100 inNovember.
Oh my god.

(13:49):
Wow.
100 years old.
Well done.
Yeah.
And mostly film for him, butmore television as he got
towards like the end of hiscareer.
So some incredible films that hewas a part of.
So he scored A Raisin in theSun, The Miracle Worker.
He is he only, um, I don't wantto say only, not yeah.

(14:12):
No, he never actually won,unfortunately.
But he did get a best originalscore nomination for Beckett.
He worked on the comedians.
He was not the composer on thisfilm, but he got a best original
song score nomination for Man ofLa Mancha.

SPEAKER_02 (14:27):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (14:28):
Rooster Cogburn, the original Island of Dr.
Moro, not the Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 (14:35):
Not the Val Kilmer one?
No.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (14:37):
Meteor.
And then he worked for a whileon Fantasy Island.
Interesting.
TV show.
Uh and then talk about a pivot,like just with some of the other
films I just talked about.
He also scored easy money withMarty Danger film.
Yes.
Yeah.
And then um he worked on a tonof the young Indiana Jones
Chronicles.

(14:58):
So the show and other just likeIndiana Jones properties.
Um, not not like the the filmswith Harrison Ford, but just
like other works that they did.

SPEAKER_01 (15:07):
There's a lot of like, hey, remember how we had
this like favorite character?
What if we had a kid version ofhim?

SPEAKER_03 (15:12):
Exactly.
And also later in his career,like just a lot of TV movies.
A lot of them.

SPEAKER_01 (15:18):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (15:19):
A lot of them.
Okay, moving on to editing,Timothy Ghee.
So he is also with us.
He will be turning 90 this June.
All right.
So good on Timothy.

SPEAKER_01 (15:31):
I mean, it's not a hundred, but pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 (15:33):
It's not a hundred.
Uh I have all the films for him,not a huge filmography.
He has 15 editor credits.
So uh this is probably towardsthe top of like the projects
he's known for.
He also worked on Long Ago,Tomorrow.
Okay.
Very dramatic title.

(15:54):
I am a Dancer.
Father, dear father.
The other one is probably theStepford Wives.
Oh, yeah.
People know.
Yeah.
International Velvet and thenSalome's Last Dance.
Okay, so normally this is wherewe would pivot into the cast.
However, I'm making an exceptionthis time.
Okay.
Because of everything that youjust said a couple minutes ago.

(16:15):
What did I say?
In terms of special effects.

SPEAKER_01 (16:18):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (16:19):
So let's take this opportunity, because it's going
to be the only time we do, tomention he is credited as
creator of special visualeffects, Ray Harryhausen.
So kind of interesting that sohe is incredibly well known
within the industry for hiscontributions in terms of visual

(16:40):
effects.
He I'm sure has been a hugeinfluence on the technicians who
to this day do like practicalvisual effects.

SPEAKER_01 (16:50):
Lay the groundwork for a lot of what we see?

SPEAKER_03 (16:52):
100%.
But also just like in a largersense, I think a lot of
filmmakers, Steven Spielberg,George Lucas, uh Peter Jackson,
Sam Raimi, uh Tim Burton,they've all gone on record as
saying that he has influencedtheir work.
So he's had an incredibly broadimpact on the industry.
Uh this was his last film.

(17:15):
He was like a consultant onMighty Joe Young, but that was
it.
So he he also has passed.
He passed in 2013.
But when I go through hisfilmography, you'll very quickly
understand the type of films heworked on, the way he made his
impact, and why a lot of thosefilmmakers have cited him as an

(17:36):
as a influence.
So his credits include The Beastfrom 20,000 Fathoms.

SPEAKER_01 (17:43):
It came from beneath the sea.
How far?
20,000 or different differentthings.

SPEAKER_03 (17:48):
Not sure, but the next one is 20 million miles to
Earth.

SPEAKER_01 (17:52):
That's not that far, I don't think, is it?

SPEAKER_03 (17:54):
I don't know.
I am woefully ignorant.
Like in a astronomical spacedistances.
I don't even know how far awaythe moon is, if I'm being very
honest.

SPEAKER_01 (18:05):
I d I don't either.
I'm just thinking in in likespace terms.
Space terms, who knows?
20 million light years, okay.
Sure.
Now we're talking.

SPEAKER_03 (18:13):
I mean, I feel like 20 million miles isn't nothing.
That's that's some distance,right?

SPEAKER_01 (18:20):
It's about 20 million.

SPEAKER_03 (18:21):
Uh he worked on the seventh voyage of Simbad.
So he worked on Jason and theArgonauts.

SPEAKER_01 (18:27):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (18:28):
One you are looking up.
What are you looking up rightnow?

SPEAKER_01 (18:32):
Not looking up anything.

SPEAKER_03 (18:32):
You're looking something up.
Uh that one that has that reallyiconic poster of Raquel Welch.

SPEAKER_01 (18:38):
Oh, 1 billion BC.

SPEAKER_03 (18:39):
1 million years BC, correct?
You knew that very quickly.

SPEAKER_01 (18:43):
Oh, I'm looking at the update.
Yeah.
It's only two, it's just under240,000 miles to the moon.

SPEAKER_03 (18:52):
So 240,000 miles.

SPEAKER_01 (18:53):
So 20 million, you know.

SPEAKER_03 (18:54):
Yeah, that's pretty far away.

SPEAKER_01 (18:57):
I mean, it's pretty far, but it's not that far.

SPEAKER_03 (18:59):
How far away is the sun?

SPEAKER_01 (19:01):
Oh my god.
I don't know.
Okay.
It's about eight minutes as faras how fast light travels.

SPEAKER_03 (19:07):
Okay, so there you go.
He also worked on The GoldenVoyage of Sinbad and then
another Sinbad.
And the one that we brought upalready, Sinbad and the Eye of
the Tiger.
I did not realize there were somany Sinbad movies.

SPEAKER_01 (19:19):
There's a lot.
Also, one quick note.
The other reason why Iremembered the uh One Million BC
poster from the ShawshankRedemption.
I knew you were gonna say that.

SPEAKER_03 (19:27):
Yeah.
Okay.
So now we are at the stars ofthis film.
I am just slightly tweaking thecredits because I mean, come on.
I'm just gonna talk about HarryHamlin first.
He is Perseus.
We haven't talked about him asingle time yet.
No, we haven't.
He he is the, you know, it isthe classic hero hero's journey.

(19:49):
Um that in large part is likeall of these Greek myths went on
to form um Jose like JosephCampbell is is the big guy who I
think talks about the hero'sjourney.
I mean, he has a book called TheHero's Journey, and that's
exactly what this is.
Although it's been messed with alittle bit.

(20:10):
Uh thank you to Mr.
Cross for doing that, which Iagain I don't really understand
why.
It wouldn't have to medemonstrably changed anything to
have just kept kept the myth asis, but okay.

SPEAKER_01 (20:24):
Who who are we to say?

SPEAKER_03 (20:26):
Sure.
And also it is really funny tome because I think outside of
Harry Hamlin and um BurgessMeredith, I do think that like
across the board everybody elseis like a classically trained
British actor.
So Burgess Meredith was UrsulaAndrews, no, but yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (20:44):
Burgess Meredith is the is the like I mean it's
comical.
Where it just it's it does notfit, but it's but I love it.
I love that he's in it.
I mean, it's basically likeRocky's trainer training
Perseus.

SPEAKER_03 (20:58):
He has toned it down a bit, though.
Yeah.
He's much more jovial in thisfilm.
He's real chap ass in Rocky.

SPEAKER_01 (21:05):
He's not like Perseus, this cracking, I'll
murder you to death.

SPEAKER_03 (21:11):
Harry Hamlin, I mean, I do remember being a kid
in I this is not like I wouldsay a crush, but I'm thinking,
oh, that's a good looking guy.
Um he is that what you as achild.
That's what you thought.
Um so he has had like a verylong career, mostly in

(21:36):
television, to be quite honest,though.
So let's go through some of hiscredits.
So I actually am really um okay,so I haven't seen this film, but
I know of this film, and I thinkit was incredibly progressive
for the time.
On the heels of this movie, hemade another movie called Making
Love.

SPEAKER_02 (21:52):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (21:53):
I'm not sure.
I think he is the lover.
So basically, it's about acouple, and within this couple,
have Couple, the husbandrealizes that he is gay and
leaves his wife, and uh I thinkhe starts a relationship with
Harry Hamlin's character.

SPEAKER_01 (22:12):
So it's one of those movies where like the poster has
like a full synopsis on theposter just so you kind of have
an idea of what what I rememberdoing some research on this
movie and thinking like wow,that's incre because I think
it's like 82.

SPEAKER_03 (22:25):
It's like incredibly progressive for the time.
So uh because I don't think thatthere are like bad guys in the
movie.
And I think that like it's Idon't think anybody's made out
to be a villain for for the waythings turned out.
It's just a hard situation foreverybody.
Anyway, he definitely gets hisclaim to fame for the

(22:46):
long-running TV series of the80s, LA Law.

SPEAKER_01 (22:48):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (22:49):
So that's like really where he becomes quite
famous.
That was a huge too, too, tooyoung to be watching that show
at the time, but I know it was ahuge TV show.

SPEAKER_01 (23:01):
Yeah, I you know, I wasn't into that when I was a
kid, and it would feel kind ofdated now, having like not
watched it when it first cameout.

SPEAKER_03 (23:08):
I don't think I ever see it like on streaming
anywhere.

SPEAKER_01 (23:11):
I'm sure there's a channel or a streamer somewhere
that makes a big deal out ofhaving it.

SPEAKER_03 (23:16):
Was it NPC?
I wonder if it's on Peacock.

SPEAKER_01 (23:18):
I don't think it was.
That wasn't one of like the DickWolf Law and Order thing.
That's that's what they've thatcame later.

SPEAKER_03 (23:25):
Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_01 (23:26):
Mostly focused on.

SPEAKER_03 (23:27):
Uh he was in the movie Ally and Me, and then a
couple movies, but pretty muchall TV.
He was on a TV show called MovieStars.
I didn't realize he was on theTV show Veronica Mars.
Oh, I didn't either 12 episodes,too.
He was in the movie StrangeWilderness.

SPEAKER_01 (23:42):
Oh man, that movie.

SPEAKER_03 (23:43):
More TV, Army Wives, Shameless.
Did not realize he had a stinton Mad Men.
He was in that more recentmovie, which I'm like, really,
dude?
80 for Brady.
He's in that.
More recently, Mayfair Witches.
And then I was like, hey,where's the show?
Because I saw commercials forit.
I guess it's because he'scredited as himself, so it's not

(24:03):
under acting, but uh kept seeingcommercials for that show in the
kitchen with Harry Hamlin.

SPEAKER_01 (24:09):
Yeah.
Sounds like that's somethinghe'd be in.

SPEAKER_03 (24:11):
Yeah.
And then we just finished, well,it the show's not finished yet.
The finale's next week, but hiswife is Lisa Renna.
So we just watched her on theTraders.

SPEAKER_01 (24:21):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 (24:22):
And it is really funny because like she
referenced him a couple timesand she always just calls him by
his full name.
She always calls him HarryHamlin.
It's kind of funny.
So yeah, and they've beentogether, I think, for a while,
for like um 30 years or so.
So it's good on them.
Yeah.
Okay.
Moving on to Sir Yeah.

(24:43):
Lawrence.
Olivier.

SPEAKER_01 (24:45):
I'm glad you threw that sir on on there.

SPEAKER_03 (24:48):
He had a ton of uh what what do you even call it?
Like, I was reading about hisfuneral, and I mean, first of
all, it was a who's who at hisfuneral, and they all carried
different like awards and thingsthat he had been given over the
course of his life.
Like he had a ton of like titlesand like um yeah, just awards

(25:10):
and acknowledgments, like crazy.
And honestly, like I understandwhy a lot of people would think
that his method of acting isquite dated, and I accept that
point, not really trying toargue it, but he is truly one of
the finest actors ever to graceboth the stage and the screen.

SPEAKER_01 (25:31):
You'll get no argument from me.

SPEAKER_03 (25:32):
Hands down.

SPEAKER_01 (25:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (25:34):
So he plays Zeus.

SPEAKER_01 (25:36):
He did he does.

SPEAKER_03 (25:38):
And in he has passed, I mentioned that he was
not well filming this movie.
And uh he he passed away beforethe decade was out.
He passed in 1989.
I so honestly, when I wasgrowing up, he wasn't really
somebody I was like clocking tooclosely, but I always and sorry

(25:58):
to go on the slight tangent, butI always loved Vivian Lee.
And obviously, it's likeprobably the um I'm using my
hand to like indicate r way highup.

SPEAKER_01 (26:12):
Setting a bar higher.

SPEAKER_03 (26:14):
Setting a high bar for problematic movies.
Oh, okay.
Um Gone with the Wind.

SPEAKER_01 (26:19):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (26:19):
But but I I watched that film a ton when I was a kid
for the the cinematic quality ofit.
And I always really admired herwork.
And so I kind of knew about himthrough her because they were
married, that marriage ended,um, she had great mental health

(26:45):
issues, and he for a long timewas her caretaker because she
just couldn't take care ofherself really.
But so they had quite a tough goof it relationship-wise.
But yeah, he was just oh mygoodness, a phenomenal actor.
And um, I don't know who'squoted as saying it, but

(27:05):
somebody made some quote aboutjust how like he's he was
basically the only person whocould just like speak
Shakespeare naturally.
Like it sounded like that, thatis something he would say.
Like it was just so natural forsomeone like him to be speaking.
And when you go through hiscredits, it's like, holy shit.
So let's do it.
Yeah.
Um, do I have anything?

(27:26):
Nothing outside of film.
Yeah, he wasn't really a TV guy.
That makes sense.
That makes a lot of sense.
So, and so he Oscar nominatedmany, many, many times over, one
win, which is kind of ludicrous.
But his credits include As YouLike It, Fire Over England.
Oh man, especially since thelatest installment of this film

(27:49):
is out right now.

SPEAKER_01 (27:49):
Yeah, it just came out, didn't it?

SPEAKER_03 (27:51):
Wuthering Heights.
Oh man, he is an amazingHeathcliff.
Okay.
I don't really think about himin a sexy way, but he is.
Do you remember watching thatand going like, he's kind of a
This is me showing everybodywhere my earliest like Harry

(28:12):
Hamlin, Lawrence Blivier.
In two very different movies.
But yeah, he is he is an amazingHeathcliff in that film.
Honestly, probably as badly castas the current guy because uh
Heathcliff, if you ever read theliterature, Wuthering Heights,

(28:32):
yeah, there are indications thathe is probably not a Caucasian
man.

SPEAKER_01 (28:38):
That I've heard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've not read the literature,but from what I've seen on the
internet, I don't know why Isaid it like that.
But yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (28:51):
But but nonetheless, a great performance.
He's also fantastic in Rebecca.
Uh so did I mention so he gothis first best actor oscaronom
for Wuthering Heights.
He gets he follows it up with abest actor Oscar nom for
Rebecca.
He also, man, I'm just gonna beon repeat saying this.
He is an amazing Mr.
Darcy in Pride and Prejudice.

(29:12):
I mean, right up his fuckingalley with that kind of shit.
Um, and then so this isinteresting too, because so no
Oscar nom for that.
He gets a best actor Oscar nomfor Henry V, but then also he
gets an so that it is acompetitive Oscar doesn't win
for that, but he did get anhonorary Oscar because he did

(29:33):
the whole, like he was KennethBrannau before Kenneth Branaugh.
Kenneth Brannau wishes he wereLawrence Olivier, but I mean
it's so clear that he is that iswho he emulates.
Yeah.
But uh, but Lawrence Olivier, Ithink he he obviously did not
write Henry V, but um acted,directed, probably produced it,
I'm guessing.

(29:53):
Okay.
So he got like an honorary Oscarfor everything he did with that
movie.
Kind of kind of odd, but at thetime they did that.
So that was in 1947.
So finally, he fell on the heelsof that because Hamlet won in
1948.
He uh gets a best director Oscarnomination, and then he finally
wins for best actor for Hamlet.
I believe to this day, the onlyum portrayal of a Shakespearean

(30:20):
character who won Best Actor.
Wow.
I believe.
He then follows that up withanother best actor oscronom for
yet another Shakespeareproperty, Richard III.
He did a lot of Shakespeare.
He did a fuck ton ofShakespeare.
He then, not Shakespeare, getsanother best actor osconom for
the entertainer.
He had a role in Spartacus.

(30:43):
This is another one where it'slike, uh, probably should not
have been cast in this, but itwas the time he played Othello
in Othello, got a best actoroscronom for it, too.
Alright.
So there you go.
Uh he was in the 1968 Romeo andJuliet, Nicholas and Alexandra.

(31:04):
So a ton of just like very,whether or not it was
Shakespeare, very kind of likehigh literature adaptations,
that sort of thing.
He gets another best, and thenhe kind of moves away from that
in his later career.
He gets another best actor Oscarnomination for sleuth.
This is the one with that funnystory between him and Dustin

(31:27):
Hoffman.
I don't know if it's like lorenow.

SPEAKER_01 (31:29):
Is that where like Dustin Hoffman was going like
super intense into like thismethod acting kind of thing?
And Olivier's like, why don'tyou just try acting?

SPEAKER_03 (31:39):
Yeah.
The story at this point, whoknows if it what what's truly
accurate about it, but likesupposedly Dustin Hoffman was
like trying to keep hims hisself, if I could use my words,
trying to keep himself awake fora couple days because he was
supposed to be exhausted.
And then, yes, to your point.

SPEAKER_01 (31:57):
Just act exhausted.

SPEAKER_03 (31:58):
Just act exhausted.
So he gets a best supportingact.
That's the only one that he gotin the best supporting actor
category.
He got that from Marathon Man.
He gets another best actor Oscarnom for The Boys from Brazil.
I brought this up because Ithink it's funny, and he's not
the only person who plays thischaracter, but we'll get to him
in a minute.

(32:18):
He is Van Helsing in the 1979Dracula.

SPEAKER_01 (32:22):
Amazing.

SPEAKER_03 (32:23):
I think he'd be such a fun.
I haven't seen that version.

SPEAKER_01 (32:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (32:26):
That would have been a really fun uh performance, I
think, of Van Helsing.
And then his final credit was1989's War Requiem.

SPEAKER_02 (32:35):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (32:36):
Also, preceding that by 10 years, he got.
So I already mentioned onehonorary Oscar.
He got another one for just histotal filmography, all the work
that he had done.

SPEAKER_01 (32:50):
Lifetime achievement kind of thing.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (32:52):
And I think one of the um another thing that what
year would it have been?
Amadeus.
Um he pr he was presenting BestPicture.
He didn't read any of thenominees.
He just opened the card and saidAmadeus.
So there you go.
And we've had that conversationabout I don't know if you call

(33:12):
it ethics or just um yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (33:17):
Trotting out these older actors who maybe aren't
space or morality otherwise LizaMinelli, I think, just recently
said like that it in her wordsit was bullshit and she didn't
need to be in a wheelchair.

SPEAKER_03 (33:31):
Oh, really?

SPEAKER_01 (33:32):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (33:33):
Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 (33:34):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (33:35):
That's the only one that I thought you were gonna
bring that up in terms of likethe way that her and Lady Gaga
interacted with each other gaveher some dignity in that moment.
But like everybody else, I feelusually it becomes like a really
unfortunate incident in terms oflike what they're able to do or
not do the person in thatmoment.

SPEAKER_01 (33:56):
They're matched with just doesn't know what the hell
to do.

SPEAKER_03 (33:59):
Or I think in his case he was up there alone.

SPEAKER_01 (34:01):
Yeah, well, yeah, no.
I mean, the ones that we've seenwhere the other person just
looks like, what do I do?

SPEAKER_03 (34:06):
Obviously, the biggest one is like with Faye
Dunaway and Warren Beatty.

SPEAKER_01 (34:12):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (34:12):
And any any that's Lawrence Olivier.
Yeah, Lawrence Olivier.
So there there you go.
I mean, that's going to be theonly time we talk about him as
far as like him being featuredin a film.
It is so incredible actor, andactually I'm really, really glad
that we did get a chance to talkabout him.

SPEAKER_01 (34:31):
I'm glad I picked this movie.

SPEAKER_03 (34:33):
Good job.
Okay, moving on to the actresswho plays Zeus's wife and
sister, Hera.
As it as it goes in Greekmythology.
Uh played by Claire Bloom.
So not super familiar with herwork, but again, uh, and even

(34:55):
just some overlap with a coupleproperties.
Another British actor, she wasin Richard III, Alexander the
Great, The Wonderful World ofthe Brothers Grimm.
I'd kind of like to see that.
Yeah.
Uh, a fantastic film.
She's in 1963's The Haunting.
Charlie.

(35:15):
This is the name of this movie,A Severed Head.

SPEAKER_01 (35:18):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (35:19):
Definitely want to watch it.

SPEAKER_02 (35:20):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (35:21):
And then she goes from a severed head to Sammy and
Rosie Get Laid.
I love some of these titles.
She's in Crimes andMisdemeanors, so she might come
up again if at some point in thefuture we do that movie, because
we can.
She was in Mighty Aphrodite, TheKing's Beech.
Uh, more recently, Doc Martin,the TV series.

(35:42):
Interesting.
And she's also been in a lot ofTV movies.
She doesn't it's real.
This is a very interesting filmto me as well.
Like, look, I know how it'sgonna come across with the well,
actually.
But like, you know, so she playsHera's she plays Zeus's wife,
Hera.

(36:04):
Uh, I don't know if I'd sayhistorically, but in in
literature in the Greekmythology, they are constantly
butting heads.
Actually, there's a veryfaithful representation of that
in what we were just watching,which was like fucking pulled
from Netflix too soon.

SPEAKER_01 (36:16):
Oh, chaos.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was a really goodshow, which obviously meant it
was gonna get like eightepisodes.

SPEAKER_03 (36:22):
Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (36:23):
And then pulled.

SPEAKER_03 (36:23):
There were some, and I mean, don't get me wrong,
there were some things thatbothered me about that show too,
because they played a littlewilly-nilly with some of the
Greek mythology, but I felt likethat was more intentional.

SPEAKER_01 (36:32):
Because it was like a modernization of it.
They weren't very trying to makeit a period piece.

SPEAKER_03 (36:37):
Yeah, very much so.
But the dynamic between Hera andZeus, very accurate to what the
mythological stories tell us.

SPEAKER_01 (36:46):
He just kept fooling around and she did not like it.

SPEAKER_03 (36:49):
The only thing that I didn't like about where they
took that is like to myknowledge, somebody correct me
if I'm wrong, I never readanything about Hera having an
affair with Poseidon.

SPEAKER_01 (36:59):
Scandal.

SPEAKER_03 (37:00):
So so that's the only thing I was like, eh, I
don't know about that.
But the like love hate.
Yeah, very much in tune withlike what those stories were
about.
So, um, but my point is thatbecause we're about to go into
the next actress, and like Heraactually gets relatively little
to do in this movie incomparison to Thetis.

(37:23):
Which is like, yeah, what?
Bizarre.
What?
Totally bizarre.
This is like obviously thebiggest break from classical
Greek mythology.

SPEAKER_02 (37:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (37:33):
Thetis did not reside on Olympus, she was not
an Olympian.
There are different versions ofwhat she was.
She was like kind of a rivergoddess, kind of a Neread is
what they would call them.

SPEAKER_02 (37:44):
Uh okay.

SPEAKER_03 (37:45):
Um, I think it's like some so the Nereads, it was
like$50,$50,$50 daughters of uhNereus or Nereid, um, like a
river god.
Okay.
So she just flat out does notbelong in an Olympus.
And she really like her dynamicwith Zeus would be extremely

(38:07):
deferential.

SPEAKER_01 (38:08):
Was there any reason?
I don't know.
Could you have just takeneverything that she did and have
and and like have Hera be inthat role?

SPEAKER_03 (38:16):
You could have had any of the actual Olympians,
like Hera, Athena, Aphrodite, umArtemis, Artemis lived on or um
Demeter.

SPEAKER_01 (38:30):
It would have made the most sense for it to be
Hera, because then you then youlike highlight that dynamic
between the room.

SPEAKER_03 (38:34):
She always had jealousy issues.
She would have been, and I meanshe was ex extremely jealous of
any affair that Zeus had, andclearly he did with Danai.
Is that how you say it?
Um Perseus' mother.
That's accurate.
He does impregnate her with agolden shower.
Um sorry.

(38:55):
They used that line so manytimes, I was like, wait, what?
So that's true.
But um yeah, okay.
So, but yeah, it is it iscompletely bizarre.
And and if you have any interestor familiarity with Greek
mythology, okay, so I think Imentioned this off mic.

(39:15):
This the that um character thatwas supposed to be married, I
don't even remember his namebecause he's made up.
He this character that issupposed to play uh Thetis' son.
Calibos, Calabos?
That is not that is not acharacter.
Her her story in Greek mythologyis that she is the mother of
Achilles.

SPEAKER_01 (39:32):
Yeah, that's different.

SPEAKER_03 (39:34):
Very different.
And I don't it's likemind-boggling to me why they did
this, but whatever.
So and also she much more playsthe Hera role in this film,
which is like the back andforth, which just is completely
off from the way that thedynamics would have been set up.

SPEAKER_01 (39:51):
If you weren't Hera, you probably weren't going that
hard against Zeus, never, yeah,never.

SPEAKER_03 (39:56):
Um, I'm trying to think of who even would get
close to to Hera's level of likebickering and that sort of
thing, or pushback with Zeus.
There's nobody.

SPEAKER_01 (40:06):
So I get all of my mythology from the uh games
Hades and Hades 2.
Okay, yeah.
Both of those I think are stillmore accurate than what I saw in
this movie, but I enjoyed allthree of those things.

SPEAKER_03 (40:18):
So let's move on to Maggie Smith.
So she plays Thetis.
She, of anybody that we'retalking about today, I think has
passed the most recently.
She just passed in 2024.
Yeah.
And there is a whole generationof people who know her for
something totally different.

(40:39):
But let's go through herfilmography.
I think that with one verynotable exception, I have all
film work for her.
Also uh double winning Oscar.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Uh I don't I wasn't gonna saythat correctly.
Double Oscar winning actress.

(40:59):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (41:01):
I'm like, do they make a double Oscar?

SPEAKER_03 (41:03):
So she, and this wasn't even the first time she
worked with Olivier, becauseagain, all these British actors,
a lot of them crossed paths alot.
She too was an Othello.
Perfect.
She got Best Supporting Actressnomination for that.
Her first win, Best Actress, wasfor the film The Prime of Miss
Jean Brody.

(41:25):
Okay.
She was in the film Oh, what alovely war.
She gets her next nomination,also Best Actress for Travels
with My Aunt.
So we have How to Murder YourRich Uncle and then Travels with
My Aunt.

SPEAKER_01 (41:39):
Is there a connection?

SPEAKER_03 (41:41):
Probably not, but I just like when I noticed that.
She was in Love and Pain and theWhole Damn Thing.
Okay.
I love some of these titles.
Murder by Death.
We've brought that up before.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (41:54):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (41:55):
Death on the Nile.
Is that a I got the Christie?

SPEAKER_01 (41:58):
It is.
I don't know what like the orderof the books are, but I know
when Fox started coming out withthose they had uh murder on the
Orient Express, that Death onthe Nile just kind of like
seamlessly like followed as thesequel.
And then I think A Killing inVenice.

SPEAKER_03 (42:15):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (42:16):
Was the one that we saw where we watched that one,
right?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (42:18):
With Tina Faye, right?

SPEAKER_01 (42:20):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (42:20):
Yeah.
Okay.
So she gets her next Oscar win,this time in the best supporting
actress category for CaliforniaSuite.
She follows that up with anotherbest supporting nomination for A
Room with a View.
We could do that at some point.
Uh that I think was um that'sthe first time she worked with

(42:42):
Bellatrix.
Oh, really?
Mm-hmm.
Because she's in that movie.

SPEAKER_01 (42:47):
Pulling a bottom carter.

SPEAKER_03 (42:48):
There you go.
She's in Hook.
She is in Sister Act.
She returns for Sister Act 2,Back in the Habit.
She was in the 1995 Richard III.
So a lot of different I mean,holy shit.
Shakespeare, it's I mean, somany different iterations of his
works.
And then here we go.
So a whole generation of peopleknow her.

(43:11):
What's the character name?
I didn't actually write it down.

SPEAKER_01 (43:13):
Professor Minerva Minerva Megonegal.

SPEAKER_03 (43:16):
There you go.
Good job.
So she's in every single one ofthe Harry Potter movies, except
for Deathly Hallows Part One,because I think that's just when
they're on their their journeys.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (43:26):
Their journeys.
They're just uh being really sadin the cold.

SPEAKER_03 (43:29):
They are so sad.

SPEAKER_01 (43:30):
Kind of getting a little snappy with each other.

SPEAKER_03 (43:33):
Oh, gotta find the horcrates.
Oh my god, they're so sad.
Um, so she's in that, and thenactually, probably um another
group of people know her from II mean, I kind of like feel like
they're all connected.
Like, so she gets bestsupporting actress for Gosford
Park, but I feel like that'slike really close to then
eventually she was on DowntonAbbey.

SPEAKER_01 (43:52):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (43:53):
Aren't they all kind of like the same kind of thing?
I don't know, I never watchedany of that.

SPEAKER_01 (43:58):
I thought as I assume.
Many did that, it was like, whatis this downtown Abbey thing?

SPEAKER_03 (44:02):
I always called it by the wrong name.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So she so it originated as a TVseries.
And then they're like, you knowwhat?
Let's make some movies.
And so she's in the film versionof Downtown Abbey.
And then one of her last creditsbefore she passed was the
sequel, A New Era.
And then also, I didn't realizethat this had, and it's kind of
funny.

(44:23):
So she was in the best exoticMarigold Hotel.
And then a sequel, the secondbest exotic Marigold Hotel.

SPEAKER_01 (44:31):
Not as good as the first one, but pretty good.
Funny sequel title.
Second best.

SPEAKER_03 (44:36):
Okay.
This is so fascinating to me.
So Ursula Andris.
Yes.
So she is Aphrodite.

SPEAKER_01 (44:43):
Uh-huh.
It's very interesting that shewas Aphrodite.
It makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 (44:47):
All of one line in this entire fucking movie.
Yeah.
She speaks once.
Once in this entire film.

SPEAKER_01 (44:55):
What is she like, why is Zeus so upset?
Like something something likethat.
Like, what's the big deal?

SPEAKER_03 (45:02):
What's the big deal?
So she's still with us.
She turns 90 in March.
So as of this recording, sheturns 90 next month.
And yeah, I mean, this is what Ithought was interesting.
I did not realize she's becauseDr.
No.

SPEAKER_01 (45:22):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (45:22):
Okay, so she's a Bond girl, right?

SPEAKER_01 (45:24):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 (45:25):
Don't you know?
Isn't that how you know her?

SPEAKER_01 (45:27):
No.
Well, I mean, I I I wouldrecognize I I I don't remember
her from Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 (45:34):
Cause she's in Dr.
No.
She plays a character namedHoneywriter.

SPEAKER_01 (45:38):
Yeah, that sounds right.

SPEAKER_03 (45:39):
But isn't Casino Royale also a James Bond movie?

SPEAKER_01 (45:44):
It is, but it's interesting because there was
like a much older, I think,Casino Royale with uh sellers in
it.

SPEAKER_03 (45:52):
Oh, which then that's what she's part of.

SPEAKER_01 (45:54):
Yeah, so it she wasn't.

SPEAKER_03 (45:56):
Casino Royale was one of the more recent films,
right?

SPEAKER_01 (45:58):
It was, and it Okay.
Yeah, that's where I gotconfused.
It was the first Daniel Craigone, but it was also like an
older, older, like I thinkthat's what I was thinking.

SPEAKER_03 (46:07):
So it's like, how could she play two different
characters?
And I was wrong.
The other one is just acompletely different Casino
Royale that has nothing to dowith James Bond.

SPEAKER_01 (46:15):
But well, no, it it did, but it was just like
different, and so she actuallyplays Vesper, which is who um
the Penny Dreadful actually, EvaGreen, played.

SPEAKER_03 (46:26):
Oh my god, really?

SPEAKER_01 (46:27):
So that's the character that she that she
played.

SPEAKER_03 (46:29):
Well, okay.
I also thought it wasfascinating because she's in a
movie called The Mountain of theCannibal God.
And then she's I mean, she didnot have quite the extensive
filmography as some of theseother people.
And her last credit, she isprobably retired at this point,
because it was over 20 yearsago, is a film called The St.
Francis Birds Tour.

SPEAKER_01 (46:50):
Interesting.
Interest what's interesting isthat she was the goddess of
love, and her and Hamlin endedup uh having a kid.

SPEAKER_03 (47:00):
I read that.
I'm glad you brought that upbecause I had forgotten, but
that is so fucking random.

SPEAKER_01 (47:05):
Because there wasn't it it was um not like a 20-year
age gap, but she was she wasfairly older than him, which
just good like he's apparentlyHarry Hamlin is the anti-Leo
DiCaprio.

SPEAKER_03 (47:19):
That good for him.

SPEAKER_01 (47:20):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (47:21):
Good for him.

unknown (47:22):
Right?

SPEAKER_03 (47:23):
Age ain't nothing but a number.
But also it helps when it'sUrsula Andrus.

SPEAKER_01 (47:27):
There were apparently rumors that they had
been engaged, but they neverthey never got married, but they
did have a a kid.
Wow.

SPEAKER_03 (47:34):
Okay.
So moving on to uh Jack Willem.

SPEAKER_01 (47:40):
That's what I said, right, the intro, where he was
just like, as you wish, my lord,to the uh Kraken comment.

SPEAKER_03 (47:46):
And so he plays Poseidon.
Uh he too has passed.
He passed in 2001.

SPEAKER_01 (47:52):
He didn't get a whole lot to do.

SPEAKER_03 (47:54):
He got like he got like nothing to do.

SPEAKER_01 (47:57):
And got to pretend that he was floating and looking
up in kind of like horror.

SPEAKER_03 (48:02):
Yeah, and that's the other thing too.
It's like they made him look,I'm using my hands again, like a
little pipsqueak next to thekraken.

SPEAKER_01 (48:11):
The scaling was all The scaling was off.
Because see, like when you seehim underwater, it's like it's
like Godzilla coming out.

SPEAKER_03 (48:19):
He's literally God of the sea.

SPEAKER_01 (48:22):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (48:22):
And he looks like Ant-Man next to Ant-Man when
he's the size of an ant next tothe Kraken.
Like it it was just bizarre.

SPEAKER_01 (48:34):
What annoyed me was the inconsistency of the
scaling.
Because it's like, well, how bigis the thing?
Because he looks like he's likea skyscraper size, and then when
he comes out of the water, itwasn't quite the same.

SPEAKER_03 (48:47):
And and I also didn't really understand why he
was transformed into a seagullto go up to it's called sea,
seagull.
Oh maybe to go up to Olympus,like, okay, like I don't I don't
know.
It just was they did some theymade some interesting choices.

SPEAKER_01 (49:09):
I don't think choices I would have made, but
it are you suggesting that aseagull would not have flown
from the coast all the way up tothe top of Mount Olympus?

SPEAKER_03 (49:19):
He doesn't need to become a seagull, see a sequel,
a seagull to do that.
So he he's a god.
He can literally just dowhatever he wants.
Like he doesn't have to liketransform.
Teleport.
And for nobody, like Iunderstand, like in the myths,
gods will guide gods andgoddesses will also will often
transform into things like wetalked about the golden shower.

(49:40):
But it's it's for the purposesof doing that for a human, yeah.
They don't just need to like ontheir own be like, oh, I gotta
get to Olympus.
I better turn myself into aseagull.
Like it anyway.
That's just uh that's just me.
But I got nothing.
Sorry, I know I'm really harpinghard on this film for that kind

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of stuff, but let's go throughhis credits.

SPEAKER_01 (50:03):
Um the real reason they did that because just so
they could have the credits rollwith something.
They did.
That's that's why they did.

SPEAKER_03 (50:12):
It was very uneven.
But his credits, I have allfilms for him and pretty amazing
filmography.
So he was in Solomon and Sheba,Sword of the Sherwood Forest,
Lawrence of Arabia, he was inJason and the Argonauts.
Okay, The Curse of the Mummy'sTomb.
Nice.

(50:33):
Interesting title here.
Kiss the Girls and Make ThemDie.
Ypes.
Uh, he was in A Man for AllSeasons, Patton, so like not
back to back, I believe, but uhboth best picture winners.

SPEAKER_01 (50:47):
He was also in Casino Royale, by the way, which
was Oh, I missed that.
I thought it was, but it it'slike a spoof.
It's like a spy spoof.

SPEAKER_03 (50:54):
Oh interesting that they used that title for an
actual Bond movie.

SPEAKER_01 (50:58):
Very much.

SPEAKER_03 (50:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (50:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (50:59):
Cromwell.
So I just thought this washilarious.
He has an uncredited credit inAnnie Hall as God.
Okay.
He so this is what I brought upearlier.
So Lawrence Lily plays VanHelsing in 79's Dracula.
He plays Van Helsing in theMonster Squad.
Didn't we see that?

(51:20):
We did.
It is not the I didn't grow upwith that movie.

SPEAKER_01 (51:25):
That was wow.
Wow.

SPEAKER_03 (51:27):
Um, it's one of those, I think you gotta, that
nostalgia has to hit you in theright place, and it didn't hit
for me because I didn't watch itas a kid.

SPEAKER_01 (51:33):
No, it was so it was honestly pretty bad.

SPEAKER_03 (51:37):
But we might cover it at some point, to be honest.
And then his final credit was2001's Blue Shark Hash.
Nice.
Okay.
Um, we still have a couple ofthe pretty big cast, so sorry.
Still got some people to go.
Um, next up is Athena.
Again, not a lot to do.
This was her first film roleplayed by Susan Fleetwood.

(51:57):
She too is past, she passedin '95.
I mean, I loved it.
It looked like a real owl.

unknown (52:05):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 (52:06):
Um maybe.
It the yeah, and that is that isthose not boo-bo.

SPEAKER_01 (52:11):
No bo boo-boo-boo?

SPEAKER_03 (52:12):
What is it?
Booboo?

SPEAKER_01 (52:13):
Yeah.
But the one that she had atOlympus.

SPEAKER_03 (52:16):
Her her owl.
And and those little touches Ilove.
I love the fact that they showAthena with, I mean, what what
do they call it in um HarryPotter?
With your animal, whatever.
Oh, I don't know.
It's like anyway, people knowAthena, like the owl is like a
representation of her in a lotof ways.

(52:37):
So um, yeah, like what was thething?
What do they call it in HarryPotter?
Like how the fucking deer wasOh, like, well, that was like
his patrona.
There you go.
Yeah.
There you go.
That's what I was thinking of.
But some of her credits includeshe did a ton of TV work.
I don't have a lot to bring up,but the movie Heat and Dust, she

(52:59):
was in the film Young SherlockHolmes.
Oh.
And then her final project wasthe TV series Chandler and
Company.
All right, moving on to the lastof our Olympians.
And actually, it's funny becausethis one sometimes he makes the
lists, sometimes he doesn't, ofthe 12 Olympians, His festis,
played by Pat Roach.

(53:20):
I know him.
Yeah, we've actually brought himup a couple times.
So he has passed as well.
He passed in 2004.
And while he did make a numberof TV appearances, I'm gonna
focus on his film work.
Uh we have him in Barry Lyndon,probably the first time we

(53:43):
brought him up.
I don't know if we likespecifically called him out, but
I'm sure we call out the scenein Raiders of the Lost Ark.

SPEAKER_01 (53:49):
Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 (53:50):
So do you wanna explain who he is in that movie?

SPEAKER_01 (53:53):
He's uh he's the mechanic when they're yeah,
they're on the plane.
Um Indy is fighting someone, andthen this guy, this big guy's
like very excited to fight.
Yeah, he's like, You want oh,you want to fight?
So Indy gets in a fight, he'sgetting his ass handed to him,
but then the plane, like one ofthe chucks gets moved, and the
plane starts spinning around,and yeah, it doesn't end well.

(54:16):
Yep.
So he's listed as giant Sherpaand first mechanics so I think
he's he's also in the he'sprobably in the very opening,
too.

SPEAKER_03 (54:25):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 (54:25):
In the bar.

SPEAKER_03 (54:26):
Okay.
He also I don't know who he is,but he has a part in Indiana
Jones and the Temple of Doom.
He is in, I mean, when you lookat these titles, he was he was a
large man, so it makes sense whyhe why he's credited in Conan
the Destroyer as man ape.
There you go.

SPEAKER_01 (54:44):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (54:44):
He's in Red Sonya.
We also brought him up in Willowbecause he is the Queen's kind
of like right-hand man.

SPEAKER_01 (54:50):
The interesting thing about him being in Conan
and Red Sonya is that that's thesame universe.
Oh, interesting.
Same world.
And he's two different things,two different characters.

SPEAKER_03 (54:59):
Isn't Schwarzenegger in both of them too?

SPEAKER_01 (55:02):
I don't know if he is in Red Sonya, but it's Oh, is
Red Sonya Stallone?
Somebody's in that.
It must be it must beSchwarzenegger, but it's um I
thought.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (55:13):
But uh yeah, so Willow, and then he also I'm not
sure.

SPEAKER_01 (55:17):
Yeah, he's in he's in that, but it's not supposed
to be about him, it's supposedto be about Red Sonia.

SPEAKER_03 (55:21):
Okay.
Uh Indiana Jones and LastCrusade.
So he's in all three of theoriginal indie movies.
Uh Robin Hood Prince of Thieves,Cole the Conqueror, and uh
that's it.
He's so he also He's gonna comeup many more times for sure.

SPEAKER_01 (55:36):
We're gonna we're for like Conan and stuff.
And like the never say neverSean Connery Bond movie that
he's in.

SPEAKER_03 (55:42):
So yeah, we haven't done any Bond movies yet.
Um he doesn't get a lot to do inthis movie, but he is so that is
known of this mythologicalcharacter that he is like uh eh,
handyman is really underplayingit.
But like he he's verymechanically minded, he's a
builder, he's a maker, yeah.
And so he makes uh is it boobo?

(56:05):
Boobo?
Yeah.
So he does that for Athena.

SPEAKER_01 (56:08):
And that's no he's no Daedalus.
Daedalus?
No.
Daedalus?
Doodalus?
How do you say his name?

SPEAKER_03 (56:16):
Something about because I hate that word, that's
part of that name.

SPEAKER_01 (56:21):
Daedal.

SPEAKER_03 (56:22):
No, daed all doodle?
I don't like that word.

SPEAKER_01 (56:25):
I'm not trying to say that.

unknown (56:28):
But anyway.

SPEAKER_01 (56:28):
Doodalus.

SPEAKER_03 (56:29):
He yeah, and I apparently I read, you know,
take this with a grain of salt,but that during the filming,
even though he doesn't show up aton in this movie at all, at one
point, um Olivier would likeliterally lean on him.
And because he wasn't wellactual support, just to like,
yeah.

(56:50):
Yeah, so all right, moving on tothe humans, uh, again, after
Perseus, Andromeda.
So the love interest played byJudy Balker, as I'm gonna say
that.
Uh, I she like looked familiarto me, but I don't think I've
seen her in anything else.
She I you know, I like her.

(57:12):
I like at first she comes acrossas like a pretty conventional
female character and honestly.

SPEAKER_01 (57:19):
Damsel in distress kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03 (57:21):
Very damsel in distress.
And I will say that that isoutside of uh what what's the
word I'm looking for?
Like taking allowances with theactual Greek mythology
component.
The other part of this, which islike I get it, that is that is
kind of what things were allabout back then, but like truly

(57:42):
there's this like definition ofwomen being beautiful or not
beautiful, and that's like thatis pretty much it.
If you're beautiful, you'regreat.
If you're not beautiful, you'reevil or you're whatever.
And um, that's very much part ofher character as well.
But she does eventually get alittle spunk, and I like that.

SPEAKER_01 (57:59):
Yeah, he tries to uh like Perseus tells her, like,
no, you can't come with us, andshe's like, actually, you don't
tell me.

SPEAKER_03 (58:07):
Yeah, yeah, I liked that.
Like that was cool.
So uh she did do you know a lotof TV work, but some of her
other credits, um, the filmBrother, Son, Sister, Moon, the
shooting party, uh, one of thoseTV series was The Adventures of
Black Beauty, and then her lastcredit, so she's she's probably

(58:27):
retired at this point, tellsTales of Albion, and that was in
2016.
Okay.
Okay, so we have two more peopleto go.
First, Burgess Meredith.

SPEAKER_04 (58:39):
Heck yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (58:40):
Who I'm sure okay, so he has come up for one movie.
I'm sure he was mentioned whenwe talked about Rocky IV, even
though he's not in that becausehe has the characters past, but
uh, and he and he has passed aswell.
He passed away in 1997.
He plays Ammon.
So Amon is he a playwright?

SPEAKER_01 (59:01):
He says he is.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (59:03):
He comes across Perseus, seems to know all about
him.

SPEAKER_01 (59:09):
He yeah, he like they know all about him.
He's written a play about him.

SPEAKER_03 (59:13):
Yeah, so kind of bizarre.
Um, and then for his part,Perseus is like, where am I?
Who are you?
What's this city?
Like, he doesn't joppa doesn'treally know much of the world at
all.
And Amon kind of just takes himunder his wing and and helps him
through this journey, uh, thehero's journey.

SPEAKER_02 (59:35):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (59:35):
So Meredith, he had an amazing career.
You've mentioned it a coupletimes, I think, at this point.
He is most well known as beingMickey from Rocky Mick.
And uh but he he I mean he had along career way before that role
came along.

SPEAKER_01 (59:52):
It's true.
That's what I that's what Iidentify him with, but that's
not entirely fair.

SPEAKER_03 (59:57):
No, it's fine.
It's fine.
I mean, hopefully that's notsomething he was ever upset
about, but um, especially sincehe got like a best supporting
actor nom from it.
But his uh career work includes,and it's it's a little bit of a
mix of film and TV, Idiot'sDelight of Mice and Men.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:15):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:15):
He plays Harry and Tom Dick and Harry on our Merry
Way.
He was in the TV show Mr.
Novak.
So a whole generation probablyknows him as the original
penguin.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:28):
Yes, that's right.
That's yeah.
Yep.
From the um Adam West old cornyBatman.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:35):
Correct.
Yeah.
The TV show.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:38):
That's that was that was his thing.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:40):
That was his thing.
Yeah.
And then he did reprise the rolefor Batman the movie.
So that that was like the firstiteration.
Uh he gets his and he wasnominated twice.
He gets his both in the bestsupporting actor category.
He gets his first nomination forDay of the Locusts.
As mentioned, he did get anomination for Rocky.
He also comes back for Rocky II,three, and then it must be

(01:01:00):
flashbacks.
Uh, he's credited for Rocky V.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:04):
He also is uh in the movie formerly called Santa
Claus the Movie.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:09):
That was yes.
So we have covered that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:13):
So that is the first time we brought him up,
probably.
Um, so go check out thatepisode.
Yeah, and you're right.
I think that actually even cameup in the last, like literally
the last episode.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:23):
The title just changed on IMDb.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:25):
It's so annoying.
Just keep it.
Santa Claus the movie.
What's wrong with that?

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:28):
They get to call it whatever they want, and you
should honor that.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:30):
Uh yeah.
So he was on the TV show Gloria,and then this is like very
appropriate casting.
He was in Grumpy Old Men, andthen he returns for the sequel,
Grumpier Old Men.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:43):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:44):
And uh a lot of TV work, but I I kept the focus
mostly on film.
So finally, finally.
I apologize if I am not sayingher name correctly.
I believe it's pronounced Sean.
Oh Sean Phillips.
Yeah.
So she plays Andromeda's mother,Cassiopeia.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:03):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:03):
I love that name.
Just rolls right off the tongue.
Cassiopeia?
Cassiopeia.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:07):
It's a pretty cool name.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:08):
She too is with us.
She will be 93 in May.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:12):
So it's not the only time that we're gonna talk about
her.
She's gonna come up again.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:17):
Uh is she?

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:20):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:21):
Okay, then it's her credit I did not put down.
Oh, I know.
I know which one you're talkingabout.
Actually, I did put it down.
I think I know.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:28):
I think so.
I think yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:30):
Um, another, I think she was Welsh actress.
And so some of her credits.
I have a fair number of filmsand a lot of TV mini-series, and
some just TV series.
So we have Beckett, goodbye, Mr.
Chips.
She was in the TV miniseriesversion of How Green Was My
Valley.
She was uh in the TV miniseriesof I Claudius, and also the TV

(01:02:55):
miniseries of Crime andPunishment, and also the TV
mini-series of WinstonChurchill, The Wilderness Years.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:02):
The Wilderness, okay.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:03):
Are you thinking Dune?
I am.
Okay.
So, yes, she's in 1984 as Dune,so you're right.
If we cover that, we'll bringher up.
She was in the film Velmont, TheAge of Innocence, and then later
in her career, she's stillworking.
Like she has a credit from lastyear.
What?
So she she's fucking, she'sdoing the damn thing.

(01:03:24):
What?
Okay.
Um, she also has been on the TVshow The Magician's House, La
Feminikita, and Keeping Faith.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:32):
Wow, that's super impressive.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:34):
I'm yeah, I mean, keep move it or lose it, you
know?
Like keep keep doing it,especially if you love it.
Alright, film synopsis.
Perseus must battle Medusa andthe Kraken to save the Princess
Andromeda.
Sure.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:49):
Yeah.
That's it.
He has to fulfill his destiny.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:53):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, again, I'm I'm a littlebit scratching my head on why
the mixed tales why you have tomake up the whole Thetis angle.
Cause actually, what I if I'mremembering correctly, so
Cassapia does do the thing whereshe talks about like how

(01:04:16):
beautiful her daughter is.
In the movie, it's Thetis thatgets upset about it.
Which I'm sorry about Adramedais.
I mean, I'm not saying likeyouth is the thing that defines
beauty, but she to say she'smore beautiful than Thetis is
not crazy.
I don't know.

(01:04:37):
Um anyway, so she does go onabout how beautiful her daughter
is, but I think in mythologyit's Poseidon who gets upset
about her saying that.
They all look like a seacreature, it's just not the
Kraken.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:52):
Yeah, there's not a god out there that takes it
really well when they hear ahuman saying, like, this this
person's more beautiful than thegod.
So jealous.
Fucking just don't say that.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:01):
Very jealous, very petty.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:03):
So yeah, you really don't want to say those kinds of
things, but she does.
And I think, and then again, whycouldn't we have just had
Poseidon get upset about it?
You still could have had the seacreature, you still could have
had all that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:15):
Isn't there like a like a seamstress that that is
so um like proud of her worksaying that it's like finer than
anything they got, and she'sturned into like a spider?

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:27):
Yes.
Yeah.
Um well that's Androm uh anAnacrid.
Okay.
Right?
Because um That would makesense.
I'm I'm not saying the namecorrectly, but that's where that
that's the or origin of thatword.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:40):
So Well, when I tell you that I get my Greek
anthology from Hades 2, thereyou go.
Okay.
It's right from the game.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:47):
Yeah, I just I don't know.
I um this film, look, I'm reallyglad we covered it because it is
one of those like weirdchildhood movies that like like
we've mentioned probably.
Parts of it have been ingrainedin my brain.
But um the nostalgia is whathelps me retain my love for it

(01:06:08):
and not much else.
The special effects are amazing.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:12):
Yeah.
We we've we brought up booboo.
The it very much was I mean,it's it's we suspected boobo or
booboo.
It's it's boobo.
Boobo.
Okay.
It very much was introduced tocapitalize in the popularity of
our two.
Well, that's not true.
And the name Boo Bo is actuallya scientific term for the genus
of eagle owls and horned owls.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:34):
Oh.
So Okay, well I like that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:37):
Um and the robot was modeled off a different type of
owl.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:41):
Oh, interesting.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:42):
Like they gave you a name, but it like didn't really
uh manage it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:45):
The thing too that if I if I may just say very odd
to just have that like quickflash of boobage when Denai is
breastfeeding Perseus.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:56):
Yeah, they showed that, and there was like a few
bare ass moments.
Even Andromeda had a like a sidebooby side boob plus bare ass.
And then uh, you know, if if itdoes anything for anyone,
there's for sure uh toplessshots of Medusa.
Sure.
If that's if you're into that,it's there.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:15):
It just was like, again, a strange choice because
like it feels like it's supposedto be kind of a kid's movie or
at least a family movie.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:23):
But it was like a breastfeeding thing.
So like, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:26):
Yeah, sure.
And I under I okay, I don't wantto, I do not want the pitchfork.
They're just asking.
There's there's nothing sexualwrong with showing
breastfeeding, but they did itbecause they're like, if we do
it like this, then no one cancomplain.
Yeah, that's why I brought upbecause it's like, okay, I know
what you're doing.
Yeah.
Like, I'm not no idiot, but umThis was decades before people

(01:07:48):
started fighting that fight.
Sure, sure.
I just thought that was odd.
I mean, as far as uh I think youkind of answered this question
in a way earlier.
Watching the movie again.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:59):
Yeah, I mean, I bought it just to like have it.
And so would I watch it again?
Absolutely.
Will I watch it from thebeginning all the way to the
end?
Probably not.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:11):
That was the other thing too, is that actually um
the beginning of the film isfairly accurate in terms of like
how her and Perseus get castoff.
Like she does effectively likethe idea was to to die at sea by
the hands of her father.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:30):
So And the reason being that the father was so
upset that she had this had hadthat that she had Perseus?

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:39):
Well, yeah, because there was um what's the word I'm
looking for?
Uh prophecy that he was gonna bekilled by his grandson.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:49):
Indirectly.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:50):
And so like I think the way that they positioned it
in the film is that like, Imean, kinda gross that he was
like so jealous of her beautyand didn't want any guys getting
with her.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:00):
That is kind of Greek.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:01):
Real real nasty shit.
But um, but like really he inthe myths he does like put her
in this tower, but it's becausehe he doesn't want her to get
with anybody just because if sheshould she bear a son, uh he
would die.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:15):
That would have that would have made made more sense
and it would have created somesweet irony.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:21):
Very like Oedipus-like in terms of like uh
that's why they cast away theirkid, because um it was foretold
that he was going to like comeback and kill his family.
So anyway.
Uh I say if it's on TV, maybeI'll flip or flip it on for a
little bit.

(01:09:41):
I don't know.
Um, especially if it's theMedusa sequence for sure.
Yeah, that that's it's myfavorite part of the whole
movie.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:47):
That does hold up, I think, when you consider when it
was made.
Yeah.
Like it, yeah, that was reallywell done.
The two-headed dog instead ofthree heads because it would
have taken too long for one morehead.
I'm like, that's no.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:58):
But the Medusa sequence, great atmosphere,
great, great everything.
Yeah.
Uh yeah, I love I love that.
So I'm glad I got to see thatagain.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:07):
They needed the whole movie to be like that.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:10):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:11):
Somehow.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:12):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:12):
You know.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:13):
So if you want to get in touch with us, first I
gotta what's the call to action?
What's the thing I had earlierthat had nothing to do with this
movie?
I had a call the action.
You did?
Um, yeah.
I was like, somebody knows theanswer to that.
Oh, um, how many times haveJames Bond movies have been
nominated for an Oscar?

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:30):
Yeah, that's that's uh that's a good one that makes
a lot of sense for this.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:33):
Nothing to do with this movie.
I'm just curious, like, youknow, like I mentioned it's the
Medusa sequence that stands outfor me more so than the movie on
it like in its entirety.
And I'm curious for people whomaybe saw this as kids, like if
there is a certain moment or acertain creature or something
that stands out for you that hasstuck with you.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:51):
I mean, for me, it's just the most obvious call to
action, which is what's yourpreference, the 1980 or the
remake?
Sure.
Sure.
Because like, if I'm gonna asklike which was the who is the
better Zeus, it's not reallyfair.
Because it's not fair.
I mean Because Lawrence Olivieris is like objectively the
better the better actor.

(01:11:11):
Like if you look at the career.
He just But he was in a toughspot for that for the city.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:16):
For multiple reasons, didn't have a lot to do
in this movie.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:19):
Yeah, they make Liam Neeson look all like shiny and
cool armor and stuff instead ofjust a bathrobe.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:24):
He's I'm sure he wasn't a bad Zeus, but uh reach
out to us.
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Sneak peek.
What do we got?
So the last episode all romance.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:49):
This is like the antithesis.
Although I've never seen it inits entirety, but I feel pretty
confident saying thatregardless.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:55):
No romance.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:56):
Romance gone wrong, horribly wrong.
Oh.
But still comedy.
Huh.
And it also pairs two actorswe've already talked about in a
different movie ages ago.
And it has the word romance inthe title of that other one.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:12):
Wait, it's not The War of the Roses?
Yes, it is.
Is it really?

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:16):
Good job.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:17):
With uh Danny DeVito, because he's in it too,
right?

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:19):
He's in it too.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:20):
I think he directs the movie.
I don't think I realized it wasan 80s movie.
It sure is.
Wow.
Okay.
Well, I'm sure I, along with aton of other people, were fooled
into watching this movie basedon how quickly it came out after
Romancing the Stone, and wethought we were getting into
something totally different.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:37):
Well, we did get Jewel of the Nile.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:40):
But we just pretend that didn't happen.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:43):
Yeah, it's not that great of a movie.
Um, and this is this is anotherone of those like talent.
We're we're really swinging, wehaven't really covered a ton of
films in the middle of thedecade.
We're like swinging from like80, 81 to 89.
This is an 89 movie.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:56):
So Well, when we have our James Bond month, we'll
we'll be able to cover a lot.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:01):
So it's only two.
That's uh oh, were there onlytwo in all the 80s that came
out?

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:06):
No, there are many.
There are many more.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:08):
Okay, I thought I was like, my dad dragged me to
more movies when I was a kidthan I than two.
Um he loved James Bond.
So that's what's next up on tap.
And in the meantime, just thankyou to everyone for making the
choice to listen to our podcast.
We know you have many optionsout there.
So really appreciate youspending some time with us, and

(01:13:29):
we will talk to you again in twoweeks' time.