Chunder Down Under: The Hilarious Havoc of Barry McKenzie

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
G'day everyone, and welcome to Dingo Ate my Movie.
Before we jump into today'sepisode, I want to give you a
quick heads up.
Today we're discussing theadventures of Barry McKenzie and
Barry McKenzie Holds His OwnFilms that are very much a
product of their time, withhumour and themes that might be
considered offensive by today'sstandards.
These movies include crudelanguage, stereotypes and humour

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that some might findinappropriate, and then, of
course, our discussion mayreflect this content.
So listener discretion isdefinitely advised, especially
for those who might find suchmaterial upsetting.
Now let's get cracking into theheart of Australian cinema and
explore the legacy of BarryMcKenzie.

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Hi and welcome to A Dingo Ate myMovie, a podcast that features
classic exploitation and otherweird, wonderful, overlooked and
underappreciated Australianfilms from the 70s, 80s and
beyond.
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Welcome to A Dingo Ate my Movie, a podcast about the weird and

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wonderful Australian films fromthe 70s, 80s and beyond.
I'm your host, pete, and todayMatt Fulton joins me again to
somehow discuss the Adventuresof Barry McKenzie from 1972 and
its 1974 sequel, barry McKenzieHolds His Own G'day.
Matt, thanks very much forjoining me again.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Pete, it's an absolute pleasure that you've
invited me back.
You've given me.
I thought this would be easy todo, but after watching these
and I hadn't seen them for along time I'm going oh, how can
I say stuff without being takenout of context?

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I've already recorded a disclaimer, don't worry.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Thank you for inviting me back on.
Yeah, these movies hold a realnice soft spot for me.
Oh, that's good.
I always get you for thestrange ones.
Last time it was Alvin.
Yeah, these movies hold a realnice soft spot for me.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Oh, that's good.
I always get you for thestrange ones.
Last time it was Alvin.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, yeah which that was a mental challenge for the
second one at least.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
We'll talk about it later, but there's a little bit
kind of in common with thesemovies actually.
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Nice looking forward to it.
We'll go through it later.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
I'm sure you'll see it as soon as I bring it up.
So it's great, all right.
So the first movie we're goingto talk about today is the
adventures of barry mckenzie anduh.
Quick synopsis for you on themovie.
Barry mckenzie and his aunt,edna everidge navigate the
eccentricities of britishsociety, experiencing a series
of comical misadventures andcultural clashes during their

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lively journey through London.
Cast includes Barry Crocker,barry Humphreys, dick Bentley,
peter Cook, avis Landon Spike,milligan Dennis Price and Paul
Bertram.
It was directed by BruceBeresford and written by Barry
Humphries and Bruce Beresford.

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The thing that gets me is justlike how dated it is now for one
.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
It is yeah, and I don't know where to start with
this.
I know I'm the same.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
How do you talk about these movies?
I mean, these movies are verymuch of their time and there is
no way you could make thesemovies today.
Well, you could, but you wouldprobably be like tarred and
feathered, I think.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
And there's no way that they would be able to be
broadcast on, say, free-to-airor anything like that.
Streaming, yes, because that'sno holds barred, but just the
warning note right at thebeginning of Barry McKenzie.
It just sums up.
I'm not going to repeat it, butit sums up what you're about to

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be in for.
But the whole thing is justcomplete, you know when the
phrase well, the tongue in cheek.
Well, that tongue has piercedthat cheek and gone right out.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, when you see the censorship, the, what is it?
The ratings?
the commonwealth of australia.
Censorship.
Classification of npa.
Yeah, it pretty much tells youwhat to expect.
You can read into npa howeveryou like.
If you watch the movie, you'lldefinitely see it and you'll

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definitely be offended by it.
Yes, barry mckenzie is based ona fictional character created
by barry humphries in 1964 for acomic strip in the satirical
british magazine called privateeye, and he was drawn by a new
zealand artist, nicholas garland.
Private eye is a britishmagazine that was founded in
1961 and then purchased, uh, in1962 by English comedian Peter

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Cook.
So I think that's a bit of thelink there between Peter Cook
and this movie as well.
The film was entirely funded bythe Australian Film Development
Corporation for $250,000 and itrecouped the budget in just
three months.
Wow, in fact, it was actuallythe first Australian film to

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crack $1 million at the boxoffice and it was also the first
commercial R-rated Australianfilm.
Interesting, it made its moneyback very quickly.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, and that's going by 1970s standards too
correct, I think.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
I think if you were to work it out today, I think
you'd be looking at aroundaround nine million dollars,
which isn't a fortune, but youknow, for a little comedy film
it's not bad and the fact that,anything now, they need
borderline instant returns, soyou'll have to try and earn it
back within two weeks yeah, it'slike everything these days has

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to be done.
You want the money back straightaway yesterday bruce beresford
has said both this film andbarry mckenzie holds his own
were detrimental to his career.
He stated that it was like amassive mistake to make this
movie because the films were sopoorly received.
Of course, bruce Berrifordwould go on to direct Don's

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Party in 1976 and then Break aMorant in 1980.
He's also known for MoneyMovers, tender Mercy, crimes of
the Heart and, probably mostmost famously, driving Miss
Daisy.
So it's amazing he went fromBarry McKenzie to Driving Miss
Daisy.
He could have had like JessicaTandy, as like Barry's mum,

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instead of Edna Everidge.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Well, there was a part.
I don't know if you've got theBlu-ray edition, don't you?

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, I watched it, the Blu-ray edition, don't?
You?

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, I watched it on Blu-ray.
Yeah, Did you watch it with theintro from Dame Edna?

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Dame Edna, yeah, I've seen the intro.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, because that's where she does highlight the
fact that she was in DrivingMiss Daisy.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
But she was going to be, and then she passed it on to
someone who was a lot youngerand up-and-coming talent Jessica
Tandy.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
And we can't, speaking of Dame Edna, we can't
really talk about this filmwithout talking about Barry
Humphreys and the rising star ofEdna, everidge Humphreys
actually began performingEveridge, as I read I think.
I looked this up the otherother day and it was in like the
mid to late 50s.
He started, uh, he kind ofcreated that character yeah,

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auntie edna and yeah, back in.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
I think it's somewhere.
I've got it on dvd somewhere or, you know, in one of those
archives from that channel ninereleased or something like that
where Auntie Edna appeared asthe suburban housewife with just
the standard dark hair style,nothing curly or fluffy like how

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it ended up being, but it wasjust straightforward, brushed
down, suburban housewife styleand, yeah, just did a piece to
the camera.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Quite amazing how it sort of all turned out.
I'm not sure, though, whether,like was, do you think this is
the first time she was on screen, or would she have been on
screen sometime before this?
Oh, before, definitely beforeon screen, because I know he was
doing like shows and things Onthe silver screen.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
No, this is probably the first time, my apologies, I
thought you were referring to TV.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, she was probably on TV right.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah, especially during the Graham Kennedy era.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Oh, that's right.
Yes, exactly, exactly.
Humphreys also played Hoot inthis movie, the little hippie
guy and the psychiatrist.
What was he?
Dr Lamprey, I think his name isthe guy that gets vomited on in
both movies.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, so just he played many hats in the film.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
He's a big loss.
Barry Humphrey, some of hischaracters are just fantastic.
I've always had a a uh, youknow, a soft spot for a lot of
the characters he does, and I'mjust trying to think of my
favorite now, I don't know.
Edna's always really good well.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
It's funny that when he started to, when he appeared
other than the regular specialswhich I grew up that would be
shown on ABC or whatevercommercial network throughout
the 80s and 90s.
Originally I didn't like DameEdna, but I grew up appreciating
it a bit later on because Ijust didn't understand the

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humour Appealing to a newergeneration would have been when
Barry Humphries voiced Bruce theShark in Finding Nemo.
And so when you have your kidsbeing fans of Bruce and then
it's like, oh Barry Humphreys,Like when they do a deep dive, I

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guess at today's day and age,when they're now a lot older and
they go, oh Barry Humphreys,who's he?
And then they discover, oh mygoodness, yeah, Times have
changed.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
I've always had a real soft spot for Les Patterson
as well.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Oh, yes, yes, yeah, the head of the.
Was it the chair on the cheeseand wine board?
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
There's actually a movie we could do of his as well
Les Patterson Saves the World.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, there's actually a movie we could do of
his as well.
Liz Patterson Saves the WorldAll right.
Well, our bags are spot forthat.
There you go, yeah, so that'dbe fun.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
I've got it as well.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, definitely a big loss to Australia, the other
thing I've got about this movie.
Just moving on to the movieitself, to me this movie is kind
of ostensibly like a series ofskits.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing.
I think it's probably reallyreminiscent of its origins in,

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you know, in a comic strip.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
So we've got, you know, the way I saw it, we've
got like leaving Australia andthe trip, you know, being ripped
off by the Poms everywhere assoon as he arrives.
And then the bit about thecigarette ad and the, the little
gallivanting he does with hislittle co-star in the ad, um,
the gorts and the daughter, thehippies and the gig, the

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psychiatrist.
You know, there's like allthese bits that are, yes,
they're scenes in the movie, butthey're kind of almost like to
in the movie.
They're kind of like extendedskits.
They don't really relate much.
It's like he goes from, youknow, like the gorts bit.
He leaves the house and getspicked up and then we're into

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the next skit, which is him withthe hippies and stuff like that
.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Well, wasn't the whole thing with Barry McKenzie?
It created as you explained howit was all created and
developed, but the storytellingwas just in a way of Barry
Humphreys explaining his pointof view of how he sees the
culture or the oka the Aussieoka of it all, and how he

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despises it, and then he alsogot everything that comes out of
the motherland.
So it's just his view or viewsof the cultures behind it and
it's just no filter nonewhatsoever yeah, filter, what's
filter?

Speaker 1 (13:26):
well, I get the feeling from some of the stuff I
watched.
Um, I watched on with barrymckenzie holds his own.
I had a panic last week becauseI thought, oh yeah, I'll be
able to watch this on brolly orsomething like that.
It's nowhere.
It's nowhere on streaming, rightyeah so right, you've got it I

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got on dvd yeah, I had to orderfrom ebay and I was so lucky it
came in time.
Oh, a three pack and it had theadventures of barry mckenzie
barry mckenzie holds his own andsome dame edna thing.
Okay, it was an umbrellarelease from years ago and I was
so much panicking I was goingto say I was thinking, oh shit,

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am I going to have to messageMatt and say, oh, we're just
going to have to do BarryMcKenzie, I could have sent you.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
You know, the funny thing is I've got the original.
Well, I've got the DVD releasewhen it first came out.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
And I still remember the day where it was being
promoted on Rove Live and PeterHellyer was plugging trying to
sell this movie on Rove and he'slike, oh, this is amazing,
showing clips of it, and a lotof people would have gone
directly over their head but Iwent, oh, that's interesting,
I'll get it.
Well, I've got that copy then,which I still have.

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So it was 2003, so I still haveit.
And then I was collecting thoseOz Portation Classics bundles
that Umbrella had releasedaround the time of Not Quite
Hollywood, and so there's a copyof Barry McKenzie Hold His Own
in one of those compilations.
So I've actually got two copiesYou've got it twice.

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But yeah, adventures of BarryMcKenzie, because I've also got
the original DVD and Blu-ray andalso Holds His Own, so it's
like you just call me next time.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Well, I needed it for my collection anyway.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
I could have driven down the road and dropped it off
to you.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
And it had a nice extra on the DVD.
I don't know if it's on theBlu-ray, I haven't checked it
out.
On the DVD of Adventures ofBarry McKenzie you probably got
it there.
There's actually a PDF script.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yes, I just noticed that earlier.
I had a look at it.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
I was looking at it yesterday and there's like a
whole scene at the beginning ofthe movie that's not there.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Where the film opens, with Barry McKenzie having a
surf at Bondi Beach.
And what's his mate's name Isit Curly Curly?
Yeah, coming down to get himfrom the beach because his
father's passed away.
And that's where the wholething starts.
And then they cut to thelawyer's office.

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But there's these whole scenesabout them going back to the
house and his father lying thereand his father had died with
not a beer or something, he hadsome alcohol in his hand or
something like that.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Well, they might have filmed it but they probably cut
it for time or it just didn'thave a flow, because it starts
off sombre and then it goesdirectly into it.
So the fact that at thatbeginning of Barry McKenzie that
everything is, you coulddefinitely tell it was filmed in
Sydney I'll put it that waybecause of the harbour backdrop

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in nearly every frame.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Well, that's very much of the times, right.
Every time there was a moviefilmed in Sydney in the 70s or
the 80s, you always saw theharbour Bridge, the Opera House,
like I think.
When you listen to BrianTrenshaw Smith talking about the
movies he made, he was alwayslike oh well, my movies were
almost like a promotional filmfor Australia.

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I always tried to make sure Ihad the Opera House or the
Harbour Bridge.
Look at the man from Hong Kong,right.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, exactly when.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Jimmy Wang Yu like?
Well, probably not him, it'sprobably Grant Page, you know
sort of kites through theharbour and stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah, it's just trying to sell it and I guess if
they do that they go.
Maybe if Tourism Australia hey,you've done some heavy lifting,
here's some money.
Yeah, you know, get them topiggyback off onto the
promotions to make it a biteasier.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, but going back to the movie, I think it's
pretty obvious that BarryHumphreys wrote this as like a
massive satire.
Yeah, and like you were gettingat, I think I read a couple of
places where he was kind of like, yeah, this is really all about
the overblown cliche of theaussie bloke sort of thing.

(17:54):
Yeah, and it is.
It's an overblown cliche,although there's really
interesting one of the other Ithink it's the holds his own
disc that I was looking at haslike a 50-minute documentary
that was made in like70-something and it's all in
black and white.
He interviews people you knowthat were at the premiere and
all this stuff.

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And he interviews this otherguy and the guy is like such a
cliche of Barry McKenzie.
He's talking about how much heloves Barry McKenzie and he'd
love to be Barry McKenzie.
He's talking about how much heloves Barry McKenzie, he'd love
to be Barry McKenzie and he'sgot his chick there with him and
they zoom in on his facebecause he's got like he's

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dribbling a little bit and youcan see the cameraman's going oh
beauty, I'm going to zoom in onthis guy dribbling while he
goes on about everything.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Well see, I'm going to zoom in on this guy dribbling
while he goes on abouteverything.
Well see, here's the thing Withthe DVD releases if you can
track them down, they're justchock full.
If you want a good Australianfilm that's got a lot of extras,
these ones are the way to go.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, they are.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
So you're getting your value for money, even
though, whatever you feel aboutthe film, so you're getting your
value for money, even though,whatever you feel about the film
, it's just bonds of features,so to speak, and yeah, it's a
goldmine of Humphreys.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, it's quite amazing.
Before I watched these againfor the show, I hadn't seen the
Adventures of Barry McKenzie forGod knows years.
Right, I've had the Blu-ray,because it was the first Blu-ray
that Umbrella released with theslip casing the Ozploitation

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Classics one.
I think it was the first discthat they released.
I've had it for so long I'dnever watched it.
And I pulled it out to watch itand I was like, oh wow, I
didn't realise.
And when I was watching some ofthe extras on that Blu-ray and
there's millions of them andthere's one in particular,
there's like a documentary onthat that I kept thinking, oh,
this is going to finish soon,this is going to finish soon.

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It must have gone for nearlytwo hours.
It was amazing.
I started watching it.
I finished watching the movie Ithink it was Wednesday night at
like 9 o'clock.
I thought, oh, I'll watch thisdocumentary.
It's probably only half an hourlong or something.
It's like an hour and a half orsomething like that and I never
realised how deeply BarryHumphreys was ingrained.
I never knew right, forinstance, that he actually wrote

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or co-wrote the script withBruce Beresford and how much
input he had in this film.
I thought he was just reallythere for Dame Edna and a few
other characters, right.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, and I don't know, is he showing away still
from it that he had done BarryMcKenzie?

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Who?
Bruce Beresford.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
I don't know.
He's still alive, right, Ithink so.
I looked him up on Wikipedia.
He's still alive as far as Ican see, but I don't know.
All I can think of is heprobably.
You know, like he said, that itkind of ruined him for a couple
of years.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah, but now it's a magical classic.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, I don't think you would hide that you did a
movie like that.
He might have done so, you know, in some years.
But I think as you get olderyou learn to realise that it's
movies like that that probablymake you as a director right.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah, and you cut your teeth, and the fact that,
yeah, and he's still kicking on83 years old at the time of this
recording, and I'm just amazedthat you can see how low budget
Barry McKenzie, the first one,is, even though they did a
pretty good job at filming inthe UK with some parts, and Hold

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His Own is just.
It's backed by Reg Grundy, whois his name is slang itself or
the colloquialism.
So yeah, barry got backed byundies and you can just see how
much they've invested in it, butit just feels like that they

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really stretched the idea.
However, it's a lot of fun.
Completely wrong, but a lot offun.
Completely wrong, but a lot offun.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Like the, the ocherisms are just to the
extreme oh yeah, it's like Ithink I I actually noted down
some yesterday.
Where are they?
This is basically through those.
It was like things like youknow, the usual one we're
talking about, the one that theyalways quote, about him going
to the bathroom, splashing theboots and pointing Percy at the

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porcelain and calling someone arat bag.
With that great song Bangs likea dunny door.
Fair, go blimey, don't come.
The raw prawn, pommy bastards,stone the crows.
Chinwag drongo, whoop, whoop.
Shoot through dry as a deaddingo's Donger, which I still
use today.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yeah, I hear that a fair bit.
Yep Chunder Technicolor Yawnlike a rat up a drain.
I love that one.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
And then the old more nookie than you've had hot
dinners, yeah, and the Bum'sRush.
I remember going back to schooland I'm sure at some stage some
teacher we had you know youalways had that like one teacher
that taught something like Idon't know, some sort of art

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thing or one of the more not youknow mainstream subjects.
That was always like edgy andand was kind of like one of the
guys and everyone kind of likedhim because he was like that.
I remember him at one stage Ican't remember his name saying
something like I've had morenookie than you guys have had
hot dinners.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah, it's just those little mannerisms where you go,
oh, and when you watch thesemovies you just go, oh, that's
where they got it from.
Yeah, some of them are verydated.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
I don't really watch these movies, you just go oh,
that's where they got it from.
Yeah, Some of them are verydated Inspired.
Yeah, I don't really hear Stonethe Crows anymore.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, and the only ones that the current day and
the most cleanest ones are, youknow, referring to Al Stewart
Flaman, yeah, yeah, and thatgoes from there.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Now this podcast is rated as explicit, so I'll have
this conversation and say thewords I was saying to May last.
I was talking to her last nightmy wife May about the movie
because she hadn't had thechance to watch them with me
because she was working.
It was a weird shift this weekand I said do you know what's
really interesting about thesemovies?

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They have some of the mostpolitically incorrect terms.
They have some of the worstthings you've seen and you will
see in a movie.
But I don't recall ever hearingthe word fuck or I don't recall
ever hearing the word cunt ineither of these movies.
That's a good point.

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There's no bad language in themovies.
It's bloody, but bloody is noteven a rude word.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Well, the only thing that I can think of is they get
as close as maybe saying shit,because it's saying shit creek.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Because the amount of times that he goes you know I'm
up shit creek.
And I think it was what's theone that he's paddling out on a
boat and was that Holds His Own.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
I think it's Halsey Zone.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
But he's out in the Thames, I think.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
I think it's Halsey Zone, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Yeah, and then he gets in the boat and then he
goes.
Oh, I'm definitely up ShitCreek without a paddle and he's
using his hands to get out intothe water.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
So I mean that's the one when they're crossing the
English Channel right, is thatthe one?
I think so In Hold His Own.
Is that Hold His Own it?

Speaker 3 (25:28):
is.
This is the interesting thing.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
He's wearing blackface.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yes, that's the one where I just got.
Oh goodness gracious.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
But it's unbelievable .
Like the only things, there wasno Americans in this movie, so
the only thing I didn't hear wasseppos Right, but I heard all
the other ones.
You know Pommy bastard, everysecond word.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
I think if you're British, you're going to be
quite offended by this film.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
That's right.
Yeah, he does turn up inblackface.
This is Barry McKenzie as AbdulMcKenzie.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, because he's trying to be smuggled, because
Barry's been banned fromreturning to the UK after the
farce from last time, and sothis is where they are trying to
.
This is where Barry McKenzieholds his own, by the way, and
he's going to go to France.

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Where were they?

Speaker 1 (26:28):
heading off.
They were in France and theywere heading back to England.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, and he's just beingsmuggled out and that's where
okay, oh, and this is probablywhere you're going to have to
might censor it, but this is I'monly quoting the movie and this
is how afraid I am of it.
But this is I'm only quotingthe movie and this is how afraid
I am of it.
But Barry escapes and then theguy goes oh, I know, basically

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boat smugglers saying wogs aretinted people.
It's like layer upon layer of afence and then they're on the
back of the truck or whateverwith some Indian people.
And then the one joke which Ifrigging love is when the lady

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is reading a book.
She's reading a book aboutImmanuel Kant, right so the
philosopher.
And so oh I to the accent andthe delivery of it, saying
because Barry's like, what areyou doing?
And she's going oh, I'mstudying Kant, and he says same

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here, but I keep failing thepractical.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
It was a quick one.
So that's as close as they getto like a bad word right.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, exactly In two movies.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yes, not bad, yeah, but they say so many other bad
words that like and notconsidered like curse words.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
No, no, exactly.
And Immanuel Kant, hissurname's spelled K-A-N-T.
So because of the Englishaccent, it's like Kant.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
One of my favourite bits is like the section with
the family the Gorts.
Is it the Gorts?
The Gorts, yeah, and theirdaughter, and then the hippie
section in the middle.
That's quite funny, right, likethe whole them thinking that
Edna Everidge or Barry McKenzieis rich.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
They have inheritance , yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
They're rich and there's like this big
misunderstanding and they'retrying to marry off their
daughter, who is kind of quiteweird and not very attractive.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Yeah, not very attractive, but she's a
well-known English actress.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
She was in Upstairs, downstairs or something, was she
, I think so yeah, I was looking.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
I can't remember her name, my apologies, but yeah,
well accomplished.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
It was funny because when I was watching one of the
documentaries, they were sayingthat I think it was the director
of photography or something wassaying well, what do you say to
someone that's cast to be uglyright?
He can't say.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
He said it's very hard to say Ugly yourself up,
you look great.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
You look great and you're ready for your shot, yeah
, yeah.
So I just love the fact thatduring the adventures of Barry
McKenzie and they try to hook upBarry and Sarah, and they go to
the social and while you knowBarry's being haunted by an
English upstart, you know,saying all the mannerisms and

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everything and saying, oh,there's a whole bunch of
Australians out the back, and sowhen he goes out for the nice
frosty ales, golden ales, andthen there there's his mates and
John Clarke as well.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Oh yeah, john Clarke's in both these films,
right.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Is he in both?
No, he's not in the second one.
He's not in the second one,he's not in the second one.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
The person who plays one of Barry's mates, who's in
the film twice, the film twice,is Clive James.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Clive James, that's right.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah, he plays that In the first movie.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
He was basically just a man passed out at a party.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, but in the second one he plays a bigger
role.
Out at a party yeah, but in thesecond one he plays a bigger
role.
It doesn't speak much, butevery time you see a frosty,
golden nail froth up in thescreen or can opening, it's him.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Apparently he said about the first film that he was
basically just there to liedown and be passed out and for
some reason it made himclassified as like a stunt
person and he got paid more thefact is.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
I wasn't aware that Clive James was part of these
movies and I grew up watchinghis satirical talk show.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Just late on in the early 90s on the ABC.
So just his dry humour whenhe's doing those chat shows, and
so to see him doing this, beingvery active, and I'm going,
whoa, I did not expect that.
So yeah, and I've seen thesemovies before, but I saw them at

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such a young age.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
You don't realise or they don't have the impact that
they have now.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
yeah, no, exactly and just that extra layer of
appearances by certain peopleand going oh, okay they're in it
.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
The actress that played Sarah is Jenny Thomason.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
That's it yes, yeah.
Yeah, fantastic actress too.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
She was really good.
I think she was really good.
I don't think she wasparticularly ugly.
Obviously they made her up tobe that way.
They put terrible clothes onher.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
I think it was, yeah, the character just trying to
downplay.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
But Barry still had a go.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah, tried to he tries to.
Yeah, and that's when Mrs Gortwas trying to marry them off.
Yeah, but Mr Gort with hisfetish, dennis Price right.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Yeah, apparently this was like one of Dennis Price's
last movies and at this time hewas deeply alcoholic,
effectively Wow.
Deep into like he was deeplyalcoholic, effectively Wow.
And the scene where he fallsasleep next to his wife Was
legit.
Wasn't scripted for him to fallasleep?

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Oh, because when Mrs Gort is rambling on and then he
falls asleep, that actuallysuits it.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
It did, but it wasn't scripted to do that.
Apparently he just did that,wow, so yeah, so I think he died
not long after this movie, buthis character like even this
character is kind of offensive.
He's almost like he's one ofthose, I guess once again it's
kind of like a satire on thecloseted British kind of

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bisexual or suppressed sexualitysort of thing where he puts on
a school uniform.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, wants to be punished.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Wants to be punished by Barry, who thinks it's really
strange and anyone would.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
And Mrs Gort's just like, oh jeez, Like she's grown
up to live with it.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
But that's when he escapes.
Oh, I've got to mention, though, too beforehand, right at the
very beginning, or near the verybeginning, where Barry does
arrive in the UK and stays inthe hotel, that it's the hotel
or the hostel, or whatever youwant to call it.
Run by Spike.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Milligan, spike Milligan.
Yeah, he's really good as well.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
I learned lots of things about him because I used
to listen like I had friendswhen I was going to school.
He used to listen to the GoonShow and all that sort of stuff
and I used to listen to him alot.
Then it was interesting to hearin some of the stuff I watched
on the disc about him being kindof very insecure about his
performances and things likethat.

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But he was really funny Likethe whole thing with him pulling
his sleeve down.
So when Barry shook his handhe's pulling his sleeve back.
That was all kind of just adlib by him sort of thing.
All the subtleties, funny guy.
That's a great scene too,especially when the lights go

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out and he shows him the box toput money in.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Just do that every 20 minutes Exactly yeah, I don't
know if that sort of thing everreally existed.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
I don't know, I don't know, I sort of thing ever
really existed.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
I don't know I don't know.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
I've seen something like that happen in movies a
fair bit, but I don't know ifthat's an actual thing.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Well, you know it's yeah, could have happened.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
But the fact that Barry Crocker playing our mate
Barry McKenzie again it's knownhim as a fantastic performer,
singer and everything else likethat, and when you get him to do
this, he's just the completeopposite.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
But just shows that he's got a sense of humour.
His character, his performanceas his character, is just so
goddamn perfect.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah, he does a great job and it's so against cast
right.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
For him.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Oh, exactly.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
He's totally one of those really nice guys.
He's a bit of a smooth singerand I think he was, like you
know, someone that reallyappealed to the housewives and
all this sort of stuff.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
You know, with his records and things like that,
yeah, it's the audience of, say,IMT slash, Burt Newton and then
Don Lane Show just that calm,wonderful performer and knows
how to hold a note.
And then suddenly he's like youknow, oh, I'm dry as a dead
dingo's donger.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
I don't know that he did anything else Like he did
these two movies.
Did he do any other?
I don't think he did right.
I think he was mostly.
Obviously he's a singer.
I'm just having a quick lookwhile we talk about it here we
go.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
No, he did nothing after Barry McKenzie until 93.
Yeah, that's it, Shotgunwedding.
But there was a voice.
But he made an appearance ashimself in Muriel's wedding in
1994.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
And, of course, between 85 and 92 he was the
voice singing the theme song toNeighbours.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yes, exactly the first time around, the first
ever audition.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
He was host of a TV series, I think right, or a
leading performer on the Soundof Music, or something like that
.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yeah, but he's popped up in various places as an
entertainer of sorts MC andeverything, but he's very good
in this film, in this film.
Yeah, in this film, yeah, theone part which I did get a good
giggle out of was when, jumpingback to when they were at the
Gortz and just out of nowhere,aunty Edna had the clippers and

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it's like I hope you don't mindif I could take a little
clipping.
And then the next scene shecomes back to the window and
it's like this full-on amount.
It's like, yeah, interesting,that's a good visual joke, yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, and your first thoughts are like, how's she
going to get these home?
And it's so typical of like ahouse.
Once again it's the old, thesatire right on people that
would come to your house.
And I've seen my mother do it,and they would see people come
to our house.
They'd be like, oh, do you mindthis is beautiful?
Do you mind if I have a smallcutting of this to take?

Speaker 3 (37:37):
yeah well, I remember watching, uh, being at my
grandparents' place growing up,and then you would have the
neighbour or an aunt or whatever.
They'll be coming over.
It's like, oh, they'll take alittle sample or a seedling, or
a clipping yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
The other thing I'll talk about.
We can talk about it with bothfilms, but I think what I really
like about this movie is I lovethe scenes with the hippies.
Yes, with the musicalperformances, with the musical
performances and you know, likeJulie Covington is in this, she
plays Blanche, which is a weirdname for a hippie.

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It's really strange.
And their bus isn't the buscalled or the band name called
the Judas Iscariot Chariot orsomething like that.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Something like that.
Yeah, but they're all headingout to perform at the leprosy
benefit.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Well, there's this theme of leprosy running right
through the movie.
Did you notice that?
No Like later on there's ascene where someone's reading a
newspaper and it's got like anupdate on the leprosy epidemic
oh goodness gracious, seesubtlety.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
I'm gonna have to re-watch it again.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
It's amazing you see so many easter eggs yeah there
is, but those scenes are greatlike it looks like the cavern
club.
I don't think it is amazing.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
No, I was going to point that out.
It looked like, uh, the likethe old Beatles or where they
had their first performance, butit looks familiar.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
I'm not sure it is, but it does look like it.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
And it's got these two great songs in these scenes,
like the One-Eyed Trouser Snakesong.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Which is fantastic that I'll probably play right
now.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Because that was bloody delightful man.
We've got some pretty grousesongs back in Australia too.
You know, you mean friend, youcould sing us some authentic,
viable Aboriginal protest song.
Oh, come off it sport.
No, I mean some of thoseditties me and me mates used to
sing down at Bondi Beach.
Well, give us a guitar.
Here's one.

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We made curly rope.
Oh, I've got a little creature.
I suppose you'd call him a pet,and if there's something wrong
with him I don't have to callthe vet.
He goes everywhere that I go,Whether sleeping or awake.
God help me if I ever lose mylittle one-night-trouser snake.
Oh, the one-night-trouser snake, oh me one-night-trouser snake.

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God help me if I ever lose meone-night-trouser snake.
One day I got to reading in anold Sky Pilots book About two
stark as bastards who made theLord go cruel.
They reckoned it was a serpentthat made Eve the apple take
Tribes.
That was no flaming serpent.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
It was Adam's one-eyed trouser steak.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Oh me one-eyed trouser steak.
Oh me one-eyed trouser steak.
God help me if I ever lose meone-eyed trouser steak.
I met this arty Sheila who I'dnever met before and something
kind of told me she banged likea Donny Dog.
I said come up and see meetching.
She said I hope it's not a fake.
I said the only thing that setsyou at ease Me one-eyed trouser

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snake.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
Oh me one-eyed trouser snake.
Oh me one-eyed trouser snake.
Gotta be if I ever lose meone-eyed trouser snake.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Come all you little sheilas and listen to me song
the moral of the trouser snakeis short as it is long.
Beware of imitations.
Don't lock your bedroom door.
When me pyjama python bites you, you'll be screaming out for
more.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
Oh, my one-eyed trouser snake.
My one-eyed trouser snake Gruntup me in fire.
The loo's.
My one-eyed trouser snake.
Oh, the one I chose is fake.
Oh, the one I chose is fake.
Got to be a fire in the room.
My one I chose is fake, oh theone.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
I chose is fake, oh the one.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
I chose is fake.
Got to be a fire in the room.
My one I chose is fake.
Fantastic, barry, wasn't thatfantastic.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Listen here, man, we're doing a little gig tonight
at the Freedom Arch Factory.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
It's a very heavy little place and this other song
called the Old Pacific Sea,which is basically about
throwing up from the side of aboat.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Oh yeah, because it was all about how the word
chunder came about.
Yeah, Watch under.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
That's right.
Watch out under Watch out underor watch under.
So that's where chanda came all.
So they wrote into this scriptanyway and then shortened down
to just chanda chanda so aussie,so aussie, yeah, yeah the songs
are great.
The the scenes in the like inthe club whether it's a club or

(42:17):
not, I don't know they're quitefunny and Drink it up.
Yeah, it's such a great song,I'll play it.
It'll be on here somewhere.
I think I'm going to discusssome people and put these songs
in, because they're just greatditties May thought when I
played one of them to her, shesaid and somebody else said it

(42:38):
on Twitter I was talking to waslike was it you?
It was like, or was it you, itwas you, I think.
Like they remind me of KevinBloody Wilson.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Yeah, that was me, it was you.
Yeah, it was me?

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah, and it's very true.
Right, you could imagine KevinBloody Wilson singing these
songs.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Oh, 100%.
I won't even quote the onesthat I can think of that would
be suited for the movie.
But yeah, they're just notright to say out of context.
But I was going to say thatwhen they were doing the live
performance at the leprosybenefit that the record exec the

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character's name, maury Miller,who wants to sign up Barry.
Now, when you think about it, Ihaven't listened to any of the
commentary on the movies oranything like that.
But one thing that I did knowwas I feel like I worked out was
Maury Miller looked very like acertain promoter, which was

(43:40):
Harry M Miller promoter, whichwas Harry M Miller, and Harry M
Miller the M in Harry's namestands for Morris.
So I'd say that there would beMurray Miller would be a homage
because he just looked likeHarry.
Yeah, yeah, interesting.
So I thought that's a nicelittle homage to him.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
And once again that whole storyline in the middle
goes nowhere.
It's just a bridge to the nextsketch.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Oh yeah, especially the dream sequence when he
passes out.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Yeah, which is really strange.
It's almost like the dreamsequence in Razorback.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Oh, there's a movie, yeah, it's almost the same.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
And once again it's got these Aboriginal people sort
of chasing him.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
And he's a convict.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
And he's a convict and it's kind of like, where did
this come from?

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Yeah, I swear, I don't remember that scene
anywhere.
Yeah, I don't remember iteither I don't know if it's been
inserted into the because Iwatched it on Blu-ray.
I really should watch the DVDversion of it to see if it's in
there.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
If it's in, but I just don't remember that scene.
No, I don't either.
Unless it's one of those onesthat's just easily forgettable.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Yeah, forgettable, regrettable, it's a bit of a
strange one.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Well, you know, like, yeah, I was trying to work out
why it was in there.
Whether it's in there becausehe's always saying things that
are quite derogatory ofAboriginal people or that sort
of thing, I don't know he wascoming back to haunt him.
Maybe I don't know.
Yeah, it's quite weird.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
But then after when he's trying to, basically when
he's invited to go on TV as welland what is it when?
he ends up meeting Leslie.
Then he gets in Leslie's exyears, a TV producer, which is
played by Peter Cook.
So there's your connection withPeter Cook and Barry McKenzie

(45:36):
when they go on to the talk showand when they go live on air
and Barry ends up dropping hisdacks in front of everyone
because, I'm sorry, the TV showMidnight Oil, that's what it was
called and, yeah, he drops hisdacks to prove a point or make

(45:57):
his point, Taking it out of amisunderstanding, so to speak.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
It's quite funny that whole scene and it's really
ludicrous at the end how there'sa fire.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
And they're putting it out.
They've got like this chain ofpeople bringing fosters along
the chain to the guys standingat the top pissing on the fire.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Yeah, the fact that they did that and you go.
Well, how about you pour it outwith a beer?
It's like no beer's alcoholic,so therefore it'll ignite it
even further, so you've got towater it down.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Yeah, it's another one of these movies that kind of
gives foreign people the wrongimpression of Australia because
Foster's is in the movie and, asyou and I both know, nobody
drinks Foster's in Australia.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
There's a reason why we export it.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
It's exactly right because we don't like it.
So I'm not sure why it's inthis movie.
The other interesting thingabout this film is that the
Qantas figure quite a lot inthis movie.
You know, the flight going out,the flight going out and those
Qantas bags.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Oh, we've got to track down one of those.
I do remember my nana having abag like that.
Yeah yeah, those were all therage.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
And they've got them on them all the time.
They've always got them ontheir shoulder.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Oh, it's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
It is, Bring them back.
That was in the old days and Iwas looking at it and I'm like,
look at the size of those seatsand they're probably flying
economy.
I'm like the seats are massive.
There's so much leg room andpitch between the seats.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
It's amazing.
Yeah, and they were smoking onthe flight too.
They were smoking on the flight.
I don't condone.
Sorry, I don't support smoking,but you can tell the era as
soon as you see smoking on aflight, you go yep, that was
definitely.
It was the 70s, yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Well, as soon as you see smoking anywhere indoors,
you know it's the 70s.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I used to.
Well, even the 80s, right,because I don't think smoking
was outlawed in pubs for a longtime, and and I used to play
pubs all the time with bands inthe 80s, and when I would get
home from gigs uh, even in the90s, I think I would basically

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go from my car to the laundry,take off all my clothes that I
was wearing at the gig, put themin the washing machine and
start the washing machine beforeI even thought of coming to bed
, and then I was in the showerbecause I just smelt like
cigarettes.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Oh, yuck it was terrible.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
And then I would get to rehearsal during the week and
I would open my drum cases andall you could smell was like
stale cigarette.
Oh, good and the cymbals andthe drums.
I was always cleaning becausethere was always like a film on
them.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
It was just terrible.
I will say, though, that Istill remember working.
You remember when Chili'sexisted?

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
Yeah, I was a busboy at the time, so first job ever
14 to nine months.
And I still remember theChili's restaurant being halved
down the middle when you walk in.
On the right would benon-smoking, on the left would
be smoking and the smoking sidewould be a bit more smaller.
And I just remember, just asyou're talking about that, just

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going home and I remember myshirt.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
I just remember smelling of stale cigarette
smoke, yeah, yeah, it's the mostterrible smell and it like
sticks to everything, so it wasawful.
Before we stop talking aboutthis movie, I want.
The guy who I think is great inthis movie and really
underrated is Paul Bertram, whoplays Curly.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
I think he's like Baz's best mate, and the
relationship they have togetherseems really actually quite real
.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Yeah, there is a great chemistry.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Yeah, really good chemistry, and John Clark's in
this as well.
Yeah, has a really small part.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Yeah, he delivers it well, drops his New Zealand
accent.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
It's like they pulled everyone out.
It's one of these movies thatyou get rewarded by seeing these
different people that you'relike oh it's him, oh it's him,
you know.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Yeah, it's like a loose Fred Dagg performance A
little bit a little bit.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
But yeah, curly's a good character.
I like the relationship theyhave.
I actually like right at theend of the film, when bazaar's
going off with edna and in thestudio and he's leaving him
behind, the kind of the look onhis face.
He has this really great lookand it's like, oh, my mate's
going, sort, going, sort ofthing and it's kind of, yeah,

(50:41):
it's really really good.
I really like it.
One of the things I noticedthere's a scene early where
they're sitting in the pub and Ithink it's when Baza is being
talked to by the executive, theadvertising guy.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
And there's four pictures on the wall behind them
.
I don't know if you noticedthem.
I did I them, I did I.
I've actually got that in mynotes, rolf harris, I think,
robert menzies is the primeminister.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Yeah, errol flynn, I think yeah, errol flynn, I knew
it had to do something yeah,like he looked familiar yeah,
yeah, and barry humphries yes,yeah, that's it.
But yeah, barry humphriesplayed four characters, he
played lots, he played himselfand three others.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yeah yeah, and also I didn't notice until this
viewing once again because Ihaven't watched it for a long
time that, um, I did not know.
Until right near the end I waslike, hang on, claude's, not a
guy that.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
That's the joke behind it all.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Yeah I know right well accomplished actress as
well as well I'm right, oh okay,because at first you're like,
oh, this is, he looks verybritish or she looks very
british, and I'm like, oh okay,something interesting there.
And then later on I'm like,hang on, that's not a good one.
So, yeah, it's pretty good, Ithink with these movies in

(52:05):
general, but this one especially, I think I just get the feeling
with Barry Humphreys that hejust likes outraging people.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
And I think that's why this movie goes and the next
one go as hard as they do,because I think he just likes
watching people's reactions tothings like this.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Yeah, it's trying to be controversial, like it's
their front and centre.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
And then when someone watches it and then they get
upset about it.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
It's like well, it was right there, I don't get why
you still watched it.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
I don't get why you still watched it when yeah,
again, it's his vision or hisway of his thoughts and feelings
on the culture.
Yeah absolutely how much hedisdains or does not like I

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guess the ochre and bogan Verymuch.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Yeah, I think he says himself in one of the
interviews that he iseffectively a bit of a snob.
Yeah, so he sort of.
You can see it when you watchhis movies.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
He's aware of it and it's like yep.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Yeah, yeah, I'm going to have him dig at these people
.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Exactly, yeah, just an easy target.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Absolutely All right.
So let's have a quick look at.
Barry mckenzie holds his ownand in this movie, I guess this
synopsis is when barry's belovedaunt, edna is mistakenly
kidnapped by a group of vampireswho believe she's the queen.
Barry must navigate thepeculiarities of european

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culture and rally his mates torescue her, just that mistakenly
kidnapped by a group ofvampires who believe she's the
queen.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Coo-wee.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
It tells you everything.
This movie is batshit crazy,but I think it's actually better
than the first one.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Yeah, because it's got a bigger budget.
I believe it's got a biggerbudget I think it's like the
than the first one.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Yeah because it's got a bigger budget.
I believe it's got a biggerbudget.
I think it's like the budgetwas $450,000, so it wasn't a
great deal more, but it was abit more.
And it stars Barry Crocker,barry Humphreys, donald
Pleasance, dick Bentley, edDevereaux, desmond Tester,
chantelle Contori, clive Jamesand a great cameo by Gough

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Whitlam.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Yes, also, don't forget Roy Kinnear as well.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Oh okay, who plays?

Speaker 3 (54:30):
you know, aka Veruca Salt's, dad from Willy Wonka and
the Chocolate Factory.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Oh, yes, correct.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Because he plays, I think, the bishop or Is he the
bishop?

Speaker 1 (54:40):
The bishop's pretty funny in this.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Or he's in the church with Barrington's twin brother,
as we discover.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
So this is where, as I was saying to you earlier,
these two movies have a lot incommon with Alvin Purple and
Alvin Rhodes.
Again, the second one is betterthan the first.
The second one has the maincharacter or the actor playing
two different parts.
There's more of a story, it's alittle bit crazier, but this

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story is nuts Like I was justthinking, like Donald Pleasance,
right, this is three yearsafter Wake in Fright and four
years before Halloween that hewas in this movie and I don't
know whether the movies he wasdoing in this period.

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I know he did the race for theYankee Zephyr, but I don't think
that was till after Halloween.
That was an 80s movie, I think,or was it around this time?

Speaker 3 (55:42):
I'm not 100% sure.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
But, anyway, how he goes from the performance in
Wake and Fright to play CountPlasma in this movie is nuts and
I've got to say he pretty goodlike for this movie.

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He's pretty funny, like thepart he plays.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Yes, like he does it well.
And do you think, though, likethe movie's introduced by the
Minister for Culture, which isHumphreys, and then, you know, a
big slap with Reg Grundypresents?
So I feel like that Reg Grundyenjoyed the Adventures of Barry
McKenzie and was like, hey, makeanother one, and then just

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throwing this movie together andjust make it more crazy Because
they're on the plane at thebeginning.
I'm not sure, but does thatmean that they've picked up
directly from the first one, theprevious film?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Yeah, In the first film I thought they were flying
home to Sydney.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Well, that's what I thought too, but there was just
a couple of things in this onewhere it just seems like they
mentioned that, but I don't knowif it was another trip.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
But yeah, I just couldn't quite work it out.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
And this one.
You know, the French are frontand centre for lampooning.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Oh yeah, the frog air .

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Frog air.
Yeah, and it was interesting.
Apparently, after the firstmovie I was reading or watched,
qantas did not want to borrowthis movie.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Ah, okay, that's why there's no Qantas involved with
this movie?

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Yeah, they didn't want anything to do with it,
which is a bit of a bummer, butyou know.
So that's how we ended up withFrog Air.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
Yeah is a bit of a bummer, but you know.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
So that's how we ended up with frog air, yeah, um
, and we get the, the, you knowall the usual stuff, with the
stewardess in the cockpit, withthe, with the pilot having a bit
of a tryst, and yeah, thedrunken pilot the drunken and,
uh, the you know that he runsinto barry, runs into the
psychiatrist again on the flight.

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So it's really weird they'reall on the same flight again and
Barry's mates are sitting downthe back.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Well, that's what reminded me, or made me think,
that it was a directcontinuation from the first one
because the doctor has decidedto catch the same flight.
That's what gave me theimpression.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
I think it all starts .
I think the whole storylinestarts off because Edna Everidge
puts on like a tiara which Godknows where she got it.
And then these two lackeys ofCount Plasma that are on the
plane.
They're on the plane, right.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Yeah, they're on the plane and they think, oh, that
shit looks like it's the plane.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
They're on the plane, right yeah?
They're on the plane and theythink, oh, that shit looks like
it's the queen, yeah, and theydecide they're going to kidnap
her.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
It's so funny.
Count Plasma wants to kidnapher for her blood because of the
.
You know, he's kind of got likethis lair where he has all
different types of blood inbottles, almost like wine that
and also to help with thetourism of Transylvania.
Oh, that's right, tourism yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
It's like, oh, if we've got the Queen here, I can,
yeah, tourism.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Yeah, but apparently the rescue could only be done on
Sundays because it's the onlyday they have tourists in there.
Yeah, that's right, and I loveseeing Ed Devereaux in these
movies.
It's so good.
I mean it must just take meback to probably watching Skippy
as a kid.
But have you seen him in MoneyMovers?

Speaker 3 (59:30):
No, but I've got Completely opposite.
I'm like you with the Blu-raysfrom Umbrella, where I've bought
it, and it's just sitting thereon the shelf.
I'll get around to watching it.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Yeah, I've probably watched lucky if I watched half
of the ones I've got.
He's excellent in money movers.
Ed devro he's really good.
This one as well has somereally cool songs as well yeah
it has uh the uh the song aboutuh the rat bag song, which I
think is quite funny.
Funny when he's explaining whata ratbag is to everybody in the

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church, when he's swapped withhis brother.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
It gets temporarily kidnapped yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
So it's quite weird, like he's got this whole scene
or this whole thing where he'sgot a brother.
I can't remember his brother'sname.
Is it in the?
Is it?
Yeah, it's Kev.
Yeah, yeah, kev McKenzie.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
And the only difference is the hat is a
different colour.
It's like a grey-esque type,like the suit, and everything's
just a pale lighter.
Yeah, grey-ish.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
So yeah, so we have Kev McKenzie and he gets taken
out because the bad guys thinkthat that's Barry McKenzie or
something like that.
Yeah, he ends up putting on thething?
And what's the name of the?
The?

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
exhibition.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
The exhibition.
Is it something about?

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Christ and the Orgasm .

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Just to be a bit more outrageous and piss people off,
I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Because after they touch down in France and then
they go through to security andBarry has got Foster strapped to
him and he gets all shot up byit.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Totally forgot about that bit.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Yeah, strapped to his torso and yeah, but they also
try to poison Barry as well andthat's where he ends up feeling
a bit sick.
This is the goons.
Yeah, they try to poison himand then when they go up to the
Eiffel Tower for a tourism partand then he's going, oh, I've
got a bit of a feeling in me,ned Kelly, I'm going to cry,

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ruth.
It's like, well, do it Cry,ruth, over the side, Ruth.
And the fact that when they godown, they beat the vomit
falling.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
That's hilarious.
There's something aboutvomiting Apparently.
Barry Humphreys mixed all thevomit for both the films.
He has this thing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Pea soup and he gave a list of ingredients of what he
did with it and all gone.
That's really, really cool.
That sounds quite appetising.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
He used to mix it up in bags or something.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
Yeah, it's kind of gross really.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Yeah, he seems to like a lot of things like that.
Yeah, it's an interesting movie.
The songs are great.
This one's more to me, muchmore of a complete movie, where
it actually has a beginning, amiddle and an end.
It has like three acts, yeah,but it still has that little bit

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of you know, kind of likehere's this bit, here's this bit
, and they're very much justgetting from one to another, and
I know that's normally how allmovies are made but, I, think
with the first movie it's justvery obvious that it's kind of
like they wrote skits and justlinked them all together well,

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what are the most iconic linesthat has?

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
that's been mentioned in the movie and you see that a
lot in the promotions foranything that has to do with,
say, not quite hollywood or justlike anything that scott aren't
here in a day.
Medina, and that's when they'reat the family reunion, the
unofficial family reunion at theyeah, well, when they all catch
up.
And then Dame Edna, and that'swhen they're at the family
reunion, the unofficial familyreunion at the yeah, when they
all catch up.
And then they're talking abouthomosexuality and stuff.

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And that's when RT Edna saysthat quote I may be
old-fashioned young woman, butlesbianism has always left a
nasty taste in my mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
They play that clip on everything.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Yeah, when I heard that I went oh, that's where.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Yeah, it's pretty funny, both these movies, right,
and going back to thedisclaimer and all that sort of
stuff, both these movies.
Sometimes when I laugh at thema lot, when something happens
and I laugh a lot, I'm kind oflike I don't know if I should be
laughing at this.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
No, the amount of times I've felt so wrong, like
there's one, are you allowed tocensor?
Can you please censor what I'mabout to say?

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
I'll try Can.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
One.
Are you allowed to censor, Canyou please?

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
censor what I'm about to say.
I'll try.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Can you put a beep in it please?
Yeah, I'll do something likethat.
I'll get more lawyers on you,but they're talking about well,
Barry says something in regardsto and I just went.
Oh goodness, I don't know howlong I can put up with this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
It just made me feel so uncomfortable.
There's a section, if you endup watching the documentary,
that's on the Barry McKenzieHolds His Own DVD.
There's a section where they'vegot clips from the movie
Because the documentary is meantto go on TV.
There's bits of dialogue, andthere's this one bit of dialogue

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where somebody starts talkingand it's just da-da-da-da-da
beep, beep beep, beep.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
It's hilarious, it's really good, yeah, throughout
the whole thing where he justgoes through all these escapades
and they're being kidnapped andthen Kev escapes and ends up
fighting Barry, because you knowthe twin rivalry.
Of course Kev is meant to bethe highly strong, very

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religious, just a preacher, andBarrington is the more loose
cannon.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
He's the most loose cannon.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
But actually when he says Barrington, if you've got a
copy of Sean McAuliffe's theMcAuliffe Tonight, when he did
his talk show in 2003 on Channel9, he's actually interviewing
his hero, barry Humphries, andSean actually says can I call

(01:05:50):
you Barrington?
So I think that's a nice littlehomage.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Nice little homage there, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Yeah, so I just want to point that out.
There's a little thing for you.
But the fact that when they getlocked up and Barry gets told
by a ghost how to escape becauseit's his long-lost Uncle Arthur
, it's like, oh, I built thishole to get it and that's where

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he goes, you know, they get outand it leads into the sewerage
pipes.
He's up, literally up ShitCreek.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
And that's where they end up, getting on the boat to
England.
Yeah, that's right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
And then when they're walking through the streets of
London, there's shit all overthe footpath.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Yeah and then when they're walking through the
streets of London, there's shitall over the footpath.
I was going to say when we weretalking about the first movie I
don't know if it's so much withthis movie, but the first movie
apparently they were reallylike guerrilla filmmaking, like
they had no permits to film sothey would just turn up and
start filming and in theboarding house that was like all
messy where Curly lived andstuff like that they were

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throwing stuff on the floor anddog shit and stuff like that
just to make it look like that.
I don't know where.
You know.
Once again, this is BarryHumphreys overdoing things, of
course, and the dog shit allover the road.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Quality stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
And it's in the same scene where he's slipping on the
dog shit all over the roadQuality stuff.
And it's in the same scenewhere he's slipping on the dog
shit and he gets reintroduced tohis psychiatrist again.
That's right and he vomits onhim for the second time.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
It's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
I laughed, even though I felt bad.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
But then later on, when they go to the immigration
department or, you know, whenthey're showing the thing where
the immigration department'sactually in quiz show.
Yeah, yeah, so this is how theydo it, and then you know who
the host was.
No, he looked familiar.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
I didn't look him up though.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
The host is Don Spencer.
Oh, it is, and if you're mygeneration, you grew up with Don
Spencer hosting play school.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
That's right, I knew his face was familiar.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
The father of Daniel Spencer.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
All right, and the ex-father-in-law of Russell
Crowe.
Okay, did he also have a songcalled Feathers, furs and Fins
or something?
Was that him?
It sounds familiar, but DonSpencer, wow have a song called
feathers, furs and fins orsomething is that him sounds
familiar, but don spencer wow,that's great.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
That's really good for him to be really harsh.
I feel very ochre uh, and youknow what is the uh?
What's what country is thearsehole of the world?

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
it's really funny that sequence, because they get
they give them two questionsthat are like obviously the
answer is australian, australia,and then they give them the one
question where obviously theanswer is england, right yeah,
and it's like this is how youget into the country and the
fact that they uh, he quizzeshim on his sexuality as a

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throwaway, and then it's like,well, beg your pardon.
And then he goes straight to thecamera, the section, whatever
it is yeah, yeah, I'll say theword they use a lot and I won't
beep it out, but just beware,they use it a lot and they use
the word poofters all the timein these two movies.
Yeah, and it's scary, you know,like I'll get a bit serious

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here, like the amount of timesthat that word was just used in
the vernacular in the 70s and Iremember right because I'm that
old, but I remember and itwasn't.
It's a terrible thing to use.
It's a terrible thing to use.
It's a terrible word to use now.
And it probably was, and itdefinitely was then.
Not probably, it definitely wasthen, but just the fact that it

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was said so freely in thosedays, yeah, it was like it was
unbelievable.
It changed it was crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
Put the bat up.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Yeah, and I think this film and I think the other
thing that gets this film and Imade a note before in the first
movie when Barry first meets upwith Curly and they go to the
bar and then something elsehappens.
They come back and Curly's inhis room with the, with the
shayla, and they start wrestling.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
They're drinking and wrestling yeah, with his mate
and uh and it's almost like this, um homoerotic kind of fighting
that's like in fright.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
yeah, that's what I think it kind of reminded me of
is waking fright, where it'skind of like, and then I think
about it and I'm like this is athing that blokes do Like, not
in a homoerotic way, get pissedand wrestle.
Get pissed and wrestle.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
Yeah, they go, you having a go, yeah, and they get
into it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
It's really bizarre.
I've seen it.
I've seen it rightno-transcript.
I've seen it right, it's nutsand once again it's Barry
Humphrey's observations, right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
And it's quite interesting all this sort of
stuff.
Chantelle Conturi is stillbeautiful in this movie and I
love like is she Zizi?
She's like the vampire, thewoman vampire, right.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Yeah, and she's quite funny in this movie as well.
She doesn't have any lines oranything.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
But I love the fact, when they do confront Count
Plasma and the big brawl andstuff, where suddenly the chef
who is the.
Chinese guy.
Yeah, the cliche just kickseveryone's ass.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Until they spray him with beer.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
They spray him with Fosters and that's it.
It's like the demise of CountPlasma with the crucifix made of
Fosters cans.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Yeah, from good old Kev who puts that together.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
And they're steel cans.
They're big cans.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
I don't know if you buy those size anymore.
They're full-on steel cans.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
Everything will be in tallies now.
Yeah, yeah, but I just lovethat Collard, who was their
French mate, who was helping himeverywhere, every scene that he
went, basically them being thetourist guide for him, and he
always had the French bread withhim.
And when one of the plasma'sgoons, you know, went to attack

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Barry and Colin steps in frontof him and stops the thing and
the gun gets impaled by theFrench stick Because we see them
on the plane.
The baguette yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
When they're flying to Transylvania to get dropped.
It looks like they've justtaken stock footage of
parachuters getting dropped into, I don't know, somewhere in the
back of Camden or somethinglike that.
Right, and they're sittingthere and they're whittling
steaks.
Right and he's whittling hisbaguette, yeah that's right.

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That's what he uses.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
Well, I just love the fact that the best line which I
was in stitches laughingbecause it just tickled my bones
right where Barry goes oh poor,this is after Colin's passed
away he goes.
Oh poor old Colin, he'd giveaway his arsehole and shit
through his ribs.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Well, that was brilliant.
Yeah, there's some good linesin this one.
Yeah, I do like, like I said, Ikeep coming back to the song,
but I do like the song about youknow, the song about Rat Bag.
What's a Rat Bag?
I think it's quite clever, evenif it is politically incorrect
in a lot of ways.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
You mean this movie's politically correct Shock
horror.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Especially the line about someone he starts off.
It's his uncle or something hetalks about being a rat bag and
his uncle thinks Hitler's a Jew.
Yeah, something like that thatsort of stuff and it's really
funny, but they're all veryvaudevillian kind of songs.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
And it kind of breaks the tension too.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
It does a bit yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
It's like just a reminder.
Hey, this is a major parody,this is do not take this movie
seriously.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
So it's like that it breaks that.
It just breaks that tension.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Yeah, my recommendation would be like if
you've got an open mind, youreally should check these movies
out.
It's it's kind of like you'llsee a lot of stuff that will
blow your mind in regards towhat's acceptable today versus
what was acceptable then yeahbut.
But I think has a has a bit ofa time capsule of comedy.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
They're perfect well, the best way to think about it
is if you're after something,that is, if you want to look up
the definition of vulgar andtasteless, you'll see Barry
McKenzie under that.
So if you're really after that,then this is the perfect
example of really leave yourbrain at the door and then Paul

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Foster's all over it.
So just be prepared.
Leave your brain at the doorand then Paul fosters all over
it.
So just be prepared.
If you want something that'soffensive, then yeah, go for it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Yeah.
So before we close this out, Ihave two questions.
One is Barry McKenzie a virgin?

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Good point, he gets close to it, but all I can keep
thinking is that he keepsfailing the practical.

Speaker 4 (01:15:37):
He seems to like for want of a better term pull out.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Well, I guess it's because he doesn't have any of
the beef and prawn curry downhis pants.
Oh my God, I forgot about thatfrom the first movie, I'd say
that after maybe this he doesget laid or whatever.
But I'd say that he gets close,probably to second base or
anything, but never gets anyfurther.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
I don't know if he's a virgin, because he tends to
early in the first movie.
A few of his mates are raggingon him about being a virgin or
something like that, or makingsome sort of saying that he is
and he's pushing back andthey're asking him about women
on the flight and all this andhe's like, oh no, everything was

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good and she was fantastic andall this sort of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
And then he did lie about something.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
Typical bloke.
Right yeah, Typical young bloke.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
Always talking himself up.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
We've probably all done it when we were young.
I get the feeling he's a virgin.
I don't know.
I'll go with that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
But I'd say, after all these events, especially
after when his aunt getsknighted, becomes a dame thanks
to Goth and Lady Flo.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
How good is the scene , lady.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
Flo, what am I saying ?

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
What's his wife's name?

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Lady Flo's bloody Sir Joe.
Yeah, my apologies, that'soffensive.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Joe Biolchi-Peterson got to remember that guy Jeez.
Who'd Got to remember that guyJeez?
Who would want to remember him?
Don't you worry about that,margaret, margaret Wickham.
Yeah, margaret, my apologies.
I remembered it.
Without the internet, how'sthat?

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
Yeah, so Margaret, and meeting him at the airport,
and then that's when Aunty Ednabecame Dame Edna.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
And that's where, from there on, auntie Edna was
referred to as Dame.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
And that's kind of like the beginning, right?
If you're looking for a pointof where Dame Edna became Dame
Edna, that's it that movie Wentfrom Suburban Housewife to Dame
because of these movies.
So it's like that evolutionwith these movies but what a
coup to get the prime ministerof australia in your movie as a
cameo oh yeah it's.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
It's just fantastic, like obviously the money was a
bit right.
So or he's because he loves hisgoff, loved his uh drinking um
and he loved being the.
He always appealed to theAussie larrikin, kind of like
Bob Hawke type thing.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
I think Gough Whitlam and Bob Hawke would have loved
the Barry McKenzie movies.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
Well, the fact that Bob Hawke, he did make an
appearance in a country practiceand wasn't he part of.
Did he make an appearance inKingswood Country as well?

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Might have.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
Well, I know that Graham Kennedy did, yeah, but
like Bob Hawke, they just lovetheir culture, their arts and
culture.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
Yeah, yeah, it's true .

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Well, they did a lot for the arts right.

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
Exactly yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
That's why I like Labor government, so let's not
talk politics there.
Yeah, I think the other thingthat got me that scene where
they come back there's a brassband playing.
So give you some backgroundwhen I was really young, at
school, like in year seven, Istarted playing musical
instruments and I was in aschool brass band at St Pat's at

(01:19:07):
.
Sutherland.
If anyone went there, hey, howyou doing.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
Delete the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Anyway, after I finished school, or near the end
of finishing school, before Ileft school, I joined the
Sutherland Shire Silver Band,which was like the Shire Brass
Band in Sutherland, and theiruniform was exactly the same as
the uniform in the movie of thebrass band so do you think

(01:19:37):
they're associated with?
I'm trying to find out and Ican't find out.
So I don't know if anybody thathas any link to the Sutherland
Shire silver band knows.
I thought I would have known,but when I was in that band I
had no interest in these sort ofmovies or anything like that
really.
So if anyone knows I would loveto know whether it was like a
cameo by them.

(01:19:58):
Then, when I was watching thedocumentary on the same disc at
a premiere, there was a brassband at the premiere.
It was the same band, oh wow.
Now it could have been adifferent Shire band in New
South Wales or in Sydney,because there was plenty of them
, but the uniform lookedabsolutely identical right down

(01:20:19):
to like the thing on the sleevesand it was amazing.
So I don't know I've got tomake.
I'm going to ask him if heknows anything about it, because
he was in the Southern ShireSilver Band as well.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
Yeah, If anyone was in the movie, part of the band
in the movie please write in.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Let me know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
Email peterdingomoviepodcom.
I think that's it.
The other question I have foryou was could you make these
films today?
No, no.
If you were going to, whatchanges would you have to make
and would the resulting filmhave the same impact?

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
What changes would be made?

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
It would be a very short film.
It would be a very short film.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
Yeah, In fact it will probably be just the film,
would be just the credits andthen everything else.
The main parts that would havebeen cut from the silver screen
would be known as deleted sceneson the Blu-ray edition.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
So yeah, you couldn't make this movie.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
No, you get close to it Like if anything that would
be, dare I say to it, like ifanything that would be, dare I
say, partially resemble, wouldbe anything that comedian Paul
Fenwick would make.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
That's the only thing that I'm thinking of, or it
would be Crocodile Dundee.
Yeah, which is?

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
basically what it is, in a way.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
Yeah, so it would be something similar to that in a
way.
Yeah, so it will be somethingsimilar to that, say, if you
watch your Howzo's or Fat Pizza,like that type of humour.
That would be the closest ofthis generation of that Barry
McKenzie type thing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
Yeah, you could get to, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
Yeah, but then again, these days, if you make
anything like that, you'll justslap it on YouTube or TikTok or
whatever.
Get your clicks.

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
It's interesting.
I don't know how you couldn'tthe words they use in this film,
like there's so many derogatoryterms for sexuality, race, all
sorts of stuff in this film.
There's no way you couldCulture as well.
Culture right.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
So racism, oh, you mentioned that Sorry.
But if you want an unholy, yeah, culture as well, culture right
.
So racism, oh, you mentionedthat sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
But if you want an unholy trinity, you've got these
two films and the TV seriesKingswood Country.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
Oh yes.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
Which you could never make today either.

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
All right.
Do we have anything else aboutthese two movies?
This has been one of theseepisodes that we've been all
over the shop, so my apologiesto anyone that's been trying to
keep up.
I think go watch the movies ifyou haven't seen them, and
you'll figure out where we'regoing Exactly, yeah.
So we've had to skirt aroundlittle bits and pieces.

(01:23:05):
But yeah, my summary is they'reboth fun.
The second one for me is betterthan the first, but there's
some charm about Barry McKenziehimself, right?
I think it's because he'soblivious to what he's saying
half the time.
It's not because he's saying itbecause he wants to be racist

(01:23:29):
or he wants to be homophobic,it's just the language of the
time and he's not even aware,right?

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Yeah, quite docile about it.
Yeah, yeah, for me it is.
If you want to know the history, I see this as the development
of Edna to how she became likethis big star.
So yeah, the evolution ofAuntie Edna.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Yeah, I think it's a good place to start if you want
to look at that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
Well, I'm just thinking how different this is
going to be from the episode I'mrecording next week.
I'm doing Talk To Me next week.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
Oh goodness, Couldn't be more different Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
So yeah, exactly.
Anyway, it's all good, I don'thave anything else.
Do you have much else to add?
Anything else to add?

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
In regards to these movies yeah, no, I enjoyed these
.
Yeah, I liked the first one.
I, no, I enjoyed these.
Yeah, I liked the first one.
I just wish it had the budgetLike the second one had more
structure, dare I say, and moremoney.
But they incorporated that intothe first one.
The first one was very rough,but I enjoyed the first one a

(01:24:50):
lot more because to me, thesecond one seemed like the
Ockerisms phrases were just, youknow, turned up to 11.
I felt like they had to segsome stuff in.
But, barry McKenzie, the firstone was just a bit more laid
back and more acceptable.
That's my thoughts anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
Yeah, yeah, cool, all right, Okay, so let me know
what's happening with theChampagne Comedy podcast.
Where are you up to with that?

Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
At the time of this recording, we're halfway through
Frontline Season 2, but we'restill going strong with it,
trying to tag down people whohave starred in the show or have
a connection.
So we've got some things, I'vegot some ideas up my sleeve, but
once we get through Frontlinewe're also going to do Funky

(01:25:40):
Squad and all that other stuffand yeah, it's still going
strong, not bad for a COVIDpodcast.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
I was going to say yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
Yeah, it started in 2020 and yeah, four years later,
we're still going strong.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
Yeah, mine's a bit of a COVID podcast too, actually.
Yeah, same sort of thing.
So excuse my ignorance, becauseI'm probably going to tell you
that I haven't listened.
Are you doing things like Bajasand stuff like that?

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
We've done Bajas in the olden days when we did the
Late Show.
So, we've already covered alltwo seasons of the Late Show and
if you follow on social mediasuch as TLS, champagne, on
Twitex, whatever you want tocall it, but on TikTok as well,
I'm trying to do little videosand throwbacks of our episodes

(01:26:34):
from like four years ago, uh,and just do little visual
highlights.
Now we've covered those as theywent through the episodes.
So we watched them broken upand with the audience laughter,
which gave it a whole newperspective since the original
broadcast.
So, no, we're doing pretty goodand it's a fan TV recap thing.

(01:26:59):
And then we talk about all theother news that is associated
with the DJ and Working Dog andother bits and pieces.
But yeah, and we also go ontangents.
So we'll talk about one thing.
Next thing you know we'retalking about program guides of
the time and Healthy, wealthyand Wise gets a lot of the
mention.
So yeah, and it just goes onfrom there.

(01:27:24):
So if you want something, ifyou want to throw back to
something that happened in the90s, yeah, champagne Comedy
podcast and just nerd out.
And yeah, the episodes are quitelong, so be prepared to fall
asleep on the couch while MrsGort's ranting.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
And what other projects have you got going for
socials and stuff like that?

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
Well, I still run my pop culture site, my Geek
Culture, so it's taken not ahiatus, but it's coming back
shortly with some extra contentlike interviews and stuff.
It's just trying to find thetime to do it on top of a
full-time job, so, um, but yeah,and I'm quite active on tw, so

(01:28:10):
mattfultoncomau, and yeah, I'mjust around the traps so I tweet
too much.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Yeah, Simple as that.
I see quite a bit Well, so do I, but you know.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
Well, I do that because I'm bored, I'm in bed
and I just go oh, I'll see thisand I'll just take the mickey
out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
Yeah, yeah, all good, all good.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
And yeah, but that's pretty much what I'm up to.
So, other than that,mattfultoncomau is my extensive
CV of pure crap.
Excellent, excellent.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
All right.
Well, thanks for coming on.
It's great.
It's always good to have you on.

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
Thank you, peter.
It is again.
I'll say it every single timeand I'll say it again it's an
absolute honour that you allowme to nerd out on these Aussie
films.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
No worries, it's always good doing films with you
.
I think we've done some goodones.
We did Houseboat Horror.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
Yep, I always throw back to that every time
especially like.
Infinity.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
I was only looking at the Blu-ray again the other day
when I was actually putting myDead End Drive-In set that I got
from Umbrella into the thingand I was like, oh, I really
need to watch Houseboat.

Speaker 4 (01:29:26):
Yeah, it's a golden classic.
It is a great one.

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to all the stuff that
Umbrella released anyway too.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
So much, so much coming up.
Yeah, cool, cool, all right,man.
Well, thank you so much forcoming on.

Speaker 3 (01:29:38):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
And when we come back we'll talk about what's coming
up next.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
And now preview time.
When it comes to entertainment,you can't beat a good film, so
let's take a look at what'scoming your way.

Speaker 4 (01:30:03):
You visiting tonight.
You want a turn?
Eh, my mum leaves at nine.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
See you at ten.

Speaker 4 (01:30:09):
My mom leaves at 9.
So you're 10.
Where'd you get it from, anyway?

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
Apparently, it was the hand of someone that could
connect with the dead.
I heard it was the hand of aSatanist.
The other hand's just out there, white people, shit man, I tell
you you all right, let's dothis, you know the drill say

(01:30:40):
talk to me, talk to me next on adingo ate my movie.
I'll be'll be joined by BrandonHardy to talk about the 2022
film.
Talk To Me.
Thanks for taking the time tolisten to this episode of A
Dingo Ate my Movie.
I want to thank all my guestswho give their time to make this

(01:31:01):
podcast possible, and a specialthanks to you for listening.
Don't forget you can follow ADingo Ate my Movie on social
media On Twitter, it's justDingo Movie.
Facebook and Instagram is dingomovie pod and, of course, you
can check out our website, dingomovie podcom.
So until next time, stay safeand I'll see you soon.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
A rat bag is a sheila or a bloke.
Or a bloke, who's kind of funny, but like who never sees the
joke.
Now take me mother's brother,uncle Graham.
He's a raven, bloody ratbagthrough and through.
He collects old kettles, makeshis own wine out of nettles and

(01:32:00):
he reckons that old Hitler was aJew.
He's always seen flying saucerslanding bringing ratbags to the
earth from outer space, andhe's written in his will that
when he dies we have to spillhis ash on Melbourne Cup Day
underneath the race.
Oh, yes, he is.
Ah, ratbag, that's him.
The Raven Ratbag, that's him.

(01:32:21):
He's a screwball, he's anutcase, there's no doubt.
And if you think you're Ratbagfree, then just shake your
family trees.
He's a great big Raven Ratbag's, thank you.

(01:32:47):
Or you pin your face onScientology.
If you grow organic food, gohorse riding in the nude,
there's a very faintest chancethat you could be, could be, a
ratbag, a raven ratbag.
You're a scrooge or you're anutcase, there's no doubt.
And if you think you're ratbagfree, then just shake your
family tree.
See, the great big ravenratbag's born now.

(01:33:08):
You're a ratbag if you turn onyour alarm clock, though you
know it never, ever makes youwake.
You're a ratbag if you risewith a burst of exercise, a
count of 40 every time you chewyour steak, you're a ratbag.
If you live upon a commune oryou sail the seas alone upon a

(01:33:29):
yacht, ratbag, ratbag, flare,coal squatters, housewife
potters, anonymous phoners,sperm bag donors, pakistani
waiters, book deliberators,mystics from Thailand, everyone
in Ireland, in fact.
Looking round this hall, Iascertain out of us all that

(01:33:50):
there's just one bastard in herewho is not, who's not?
Ah, ratbag, a raving Ratbag, ascrewball, a nutcase, there's no
doubt.
And if you think you're Ratbag,free, then just shake your
family tree.
See the great big ravingRatbag's falling out.

(01:34:14):
Ah.

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
Ratbag, a raving Ratbag © BF-WATCH TV 2021.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
Raving, raving, rat-bag-balling time.

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
Next, on A Dingo Ate my Movie, we'll be taking a full
180-degree turn and we'll betalking about 1920.
Next, on A Dingo Ate my Movie,we'll be talking about the 2020.
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