Houseboat Horror - Navigating the Humorous Horrors of a Cult Classic

Welcome to a  journey into the world of the delightfully dreadful, the charmingly cringe-worthy and the beautifully bad. My guest, Matt Fulton, and I have both been captivated by the unique niche of Australian films, and there is no better example than the cult classic Houseboat Horror.

Houseboat Horror – it's a name that elicits a myriad of reactions, and for good reason. From the infamous budget constraints to the eclectic cast and it's "Banned in Queensland" status, Matt and I dissect the myriad of reasons why fans so adore this film. And let's not forget the iconic VHS box art that has undoubtedly contributed to the cult status of this unforgettable movie.

Of course, a chat about Houseboat Horror wouldn't be complete without a dissection of its outrageous elements, from the nudity and music to the awkward kills. We scrutinize the digital restoration and the unintended hilarity that some of the lines bring about. We reflect on editor Clayton Jacobson and his uncompensated work on the film and then dive into the newly released Blu-Ray and special features that make Houseboat Horror the cult classic it is today.

So, grab a stiff drink, get comfortable, and prepare for a trip into the heart of Australian film culture.

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Episode Transcript

Pete (00:57):
G'day and welcome to A Dingo Ate My Movie, a podcast
where we talk about the weirdand wonderful world of
Australian film from the 70s,80s and beyond.
As always, I'm your host, pete,and today I'm joined by Matt
Fulton to discuss what isconsidered the worst movie to
come out of Australia, if youdon't count the very excellent
Mr Dundee Houseboat Horror from1989.

(01:18):
Here you go, matt.

Matt (01:19):
Oh good, how are you, pete ?
I wouldn't really say that'slike the worst movie.
I'd say it's the best, worstAustralian movie.

Pete (01:27):
Yeah, I think so too.
It's actually I don't know ifit's because I've watched it
maybe three or four times in thelast week or two I've kind of
enjoyed it.
It's definitely not as bad.
Like I know, the blurb on theback of the umbrella release
talks a lot about.
They mentioned the room and Ithink they mentioned Bird Demek

(01:48):
and a few of those other things.
I don't think it's as bad asthose.

Matt (01:52):
Well, the funny thing is, when I read that on the back of
the cover, I thought wait aminute, are they rating my
collection?
Because I've got a copy of theroom as well on my shelf.

Pete (02:02):
Yeah, I don't think it's as bad as what people think and
it is a great bad movie, right?
If you want to have a great badmovie, it's really good.
I would like to watch this withlike a bunch of mates.
It would be really the best wayto watch it.

Matt (02:13):
Oh, of course.
And when I had my early passionfor bad movies, some of my
friends at the time just did notget it.
And while I wasn't the cool onein school, I became even less
cool.

Pete (02:31):
So they're going.
What is this?

Matt (02:32):
Why are we watching this bad movie?
For you don't get it.
It's a piece of art.

Pete (02:39):
Exactly Someone else's art .
So we just to give a bit ofbackground to people, I don't go
too deep into how we caught upand how we met up, but you and I
have a mutual friend who's beenon this show before, which is
Jay, and we were catching upwith Jay when he was in
Australia recently and we werejust talking about podcasts and

(03:01):
I mentioned my podcast and youwere like, oh, I know that
podcast.
And then we started talkingabout I think we're talking
about houseboat horror as well.

Matt (03:10):
Yeah, the fact that I'm a long time listener, first time
caller.
And yeah it was just one wasblown when.
I'm going ah, this all makessense now.
I recognize the voices andthey're just in.
I put some thinking yeah, I'mgoing like I discovered your
podcast by accident because,while I have podcasting

(03:33):
experience the yeah, I waslooking through again my passion
for Ozploitation movies andAustralian movies in general and
I was searching.
I'm going hmm, I really want tohear movie review about some
Ozploitation classics oranything like that, because I'm
probably doing those big bluecover releases and yeah search

(03:55):
for it, and then I've gone.
Oh, what's this?
Dingo 8mo movie and yeah and itwas great because I love long
form type podcasting, because itwas helped from travels to and
from work.

Pete (04:07):
It's great for commutes, isn't it?
That's why there's anything Imiss about like working from
home these days is I don't getto commute, so I don't get to
listen to not that I miss thecommute, mind you but I don't
get to listen to stuff likepodcasts quite as much, so I
usually just put them on whenI'm working, but then you can't
really give them the fullattention that you give them
when you're commuting.
But yeah, and I think, if Iremember our conversation that

(04:31):
day, you've got a bit of ahistory with this movie.

Matt (04:34):
It's not a direct connection or anything, but it's
like a bit of a nerd best typediscussion, kind of like what
we're doing now.
So it's me, but am I allowed toplug what I do as well?
I'm not one person who doesthat.

Pete (04:53):
No, plugging is great.
I mean, I don't have to pay youto come on the show, so I give
you as many plugs as you can.

Matt (05:03):
Well, I'm a big Australian TV movie, especially when it
comes to comedy, and I'm a bigfan of the Vgen late show
working dog team and spin offsand stuff like that, and I
produce and co-host a recappodcast called the Champagne

(05:26):
Comedy Podcast which is basedall on working dog programs and
degeneration and all that andmyself and my co-hosts, which
are spread all around Australiaand overseas, we were doing
recaps of the late show that wasbroadcast on ABC TV between
1992 and 1993.

(05:48):
And in season one was theepisode of the late show where
it was Tony Martin doing hissegment on undiscovered
masterpieces of the cinema andHouseboat Horror featured in it.
And so anyone who watched thelate show or all those jokes
that go with it like I won't sayanything because we will bring

(06:09):
it up a bit later on in thisepisode, but it was nice
features with it and if you're afan of the late show, you
became a fan of Houseboat Horror, all because it was so niche
and so deliciously bad.
It was good.
And with that, with HouseboatHorror in the back of my mind,
it wasn't until I was working inCanberra for a radio station

(06:32):
down there and I owned a copy ofHouseboat Horror on DVD, which
I found funny enough at Paddy'sMarkets in the city at one time
because we were walking throughwith my mate and I'm going oh,
look at that Houseboat Horror,it's like $11 on DVD.
I'll grab that.
And my mates go why are youbuying that?
For I've never heard of thatmovie.
And I went oh well, I'm goingto have to get it now.

(06:54):
So it's made your day so yeah,yeah, and it wasn't until there
was a gig or a event that mywork was at the time was
promoting and I had a couple ofAustralian musicians in it.
It was part of, like the APAtold my life tour type thing,

(07:18):
which, yeah, it's just a groupof classic artists and one of
them who was part of this tourwas Brian Manix.
And he had yeah, from UncannyX-Men, and so he came in and I
thought, oh, I better rush homebecause he's going to be a

(07:38):
little bit, and I was onlyliving five minutes away from
work.
I ran home, got the DVD, cameback and got in the sign it and
he just saw it and laughed at meand he go, really, really.
And I went yes, please can yousign it.
And he goes mate, this is theworst Australian movie ever.
And he signed it in the sleepand yeah, I treasure that.

(08:00):
And I was just so giddy thatday and no one at work
understood.
And so Brian and I just shareda laugh or two about it all and
told me the odd story he has.
Now he embraced it not longafter that.
So it's like, yeah, fair enough, it's then cult classic, but

(08:22):
yeah, so yeah, and so that'sthat little bit.
And also I interviewed GavinWood, as part of my Champagne
Comedy podcast as well, to talkabout his experience on
Houseboat Horror, which kind ofreflects what's in the Blu-ray.

Pete (08:40):
He's like one of the high points of the film.
Oh yeah, he's great.
He's the best line.
He's really good.
Bar up, he's got the best lines.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Hey guys, girls, it's party time.
Come up here.

Gavin Wood (08:53):
I refuse Magnificent , you'll bar up.

Pete (08:58):
The film crew shooting a music video traveled to Lake
Infinity, where a vicious killerhunts them, and that's all it
is.
It's basically a Friday, the13th ripoff.

Matt (09:07):
Yeah, you just know that with that concept of it all,
it's going to be delightfullyhorrific.

Pete (09:13):
And it is, it is and the film stars.
The film stars Alan Dale, whoeveryone knows from neighbors, I
guess Christine Jensen, there'sAnimal McKenna.
So Animal was like hey, hey,it's Saturday, sort of I don't
know about royalty, but anywayhe was, he was a big deal on hey

(09:33):
, hey, it's Saturday for a whileand John Michael Howzen and
Gavin Wood and it was directedby well, it was initially
directed by Ollie Martin, butthere's a story about him after
a couple of days going notdirecting anymore and it went
over to Kendall Flanagan whoapparently has directed quite a
few things and TV shows andstuff like that, and Ollie

(09:56):
Martin kind of just produced it.

Matt (09:57):
From that point on, yeah, Wasn't there one of them who was
the one who had the heartattack?
I think it was.
Yeah, one of the producers hada heart attack in the middle of
filming and couldn't continue on.

Pete (10:17):
Oh, I didn't.
I can't remember that.
I've listened to bits of thecommentary, but not all of it.
I don't remember that.
And I'll watch some of thespecial features and there's
lots of interesting stories andI know the most obvious one is
nobody got paid.

Matt (10:35):
Oh, yeah, yeah, it is now the whole.
If you don't get paid, you areat least I guess you can
recuperate your losses by doingQ&As in the future Just hoping
that the movie ends up being acult classic.

(10:56):
And yeah, that's a way ofrecuperating those losses.

Pete (11:02):
A lot of people.
I think this is pretty con well, a lot of people consider this
to be the worst Australian filmever made.
Like I said at the top, I thinkyou know the last Paul Hogan
movie was probably pretty closeto that, even though it was
probably not an Australian movie, but we'll call it that anyway.
The budget for the film hasnever been clearly stated.

(11:23):
In the commentary I heard thatit was estimated to be around
225,000.
But I don't see that reflectedin what's on the screen.
And the fact that they had abudget like that, no one got
paid is well, I shouldn't sayverging on criminal with clothes

(11:44):
.

Matt (11:45):
Yeah, I was going to say that.
Gavin Wood with the chat and Ido apologize if I randomly bring
that up and Tony, becausethat's the only direct resource
that I've got, is that, yeah, alot of the money came from the
underground disco, which ismentioned a few times at the
beginning of this movie, becausethey were pretty much the

(12:09):
financial backers.

Pete (12:11):
Yeah, they mentioned the underground disco maybe four or
five times in the movie.
It's part of my drinking gamefrom every letter.
In 1990, the Queenslandgovernment banned this film
under sections nine and 10 ofthe film review act which gave
it that classic band inQueensland sticker and found
actually a ideas letterbox.

Matt (12:34):
No, I'm aware of it.
I've never used it, becauseletterbox is great.

Pete (12:39):
There's a user and they call Rod Williams I'll give him
credit and he's got a letterboxlist of once banned in
Queensland, australia, and itgoes through all these movies
that were banned in Queenslandand some of them are really
obvious, like you would think.
You know, like Houseboat Horrorwas one, they banned things
like Dawn of the Dead and SilentNight, deadly Night, reanimate

(13:00):
A Pieces.
You know all the ones you wouldthink of Mother's Day, friday
13th, part Two.
Surf Nazis Must Die.
All this and I'm like, oh,there's almost a podcast in just
going through those movies.

Matt (13:11):
Yeah, it sounds like it, doesn't it?
It's like Queensland, what thehell you have no taste.

Pete (13:16):
Exactly, yeah, and the whole thing about the banning
Queensland is a lot of VHSdistributors.
When this first, because myfirst memories of this movie was
seeing the VHS box, I wish I'dactually got a copy of one.
It would have been fantastic.
But seeing the VHS box with thebig banning Queensland sticker
on it and at the time you knowwhen you're looking in video

(13:40):
shops there's quite a few movieswhere they actually a lot of
distributors, went to thetrouble of putting banning
Queensland stickers on the, onthe cover, on the cases, so
people would get great.
This is really good.

Matt (13:52):
I do remember that I think it was from because I was born
in Brighton, sydney, and I doremember local video store,
especially the corner store fromwhere I was growing up, and
they would have all those reallysquishy type VHS covers and the

(14:12):
banning Queensland stickers on.
I remember one of them being Ithink it was Peter Jackson's
pure shit.
I think it was or bad bad tasteor whatever.

Pete (14:20):
Bad taste yeah.

Matt (14:22):
I remember that one always caught my eye because of the
sticker on it and I got oh, canI watch this?
And but I was way underage so Iwasn't allowed to get the watch
.
Yeah, yeah, still haven't yet.
I should really get around towatching it now that I'm in my
you know, nearly that halfcentury.

Pete (14:43):
Well, in 1989, I've been 62.
So it would have been about 37.
So not an issue.
But, um, yeah, so I rememberthe VHS for sure and I think I
my first time I ever watched itwas on VHS.
I found I actually found someinformation that it was actually
shown on TV at some stage aswell, in 1990 as well it was.

(15:08):
It was put on commercial TV fora little while.

Matt (15:12):
Oh, like about 11 o'clock at night or whatever like for
the Probably.

Pete (15:16):
Yeah, I think it was rated MA apparently and ran on nine.
Win an NBN 1055 on Sunday, the23rd of January has a 1994.
And then it also turned up in2000 on channel nine at 1 45 AM
on the 27th of October.

Matt (15:34):
Oh well, that's just returning back from the
underground disco type thing.

Pete (15:41):
It is, and that's all thanks to Ozmoviescom.
I think it's a great websiteand they got some really good
info on this movie, more thanWikipedia or IMDB or any of
those sites, which is to beexpected.
I guess it's pretty niche.

Matt (15:56):
Oh, like the more independent or, you know, the
smaller run websites.
They are great to have.
They've got more informationbecause it's more or less
passion projects from comingfrom people who are more
dedicated to the finer detail.

Pete (16:16):
There's even a houseboat horrorcom, which is obviously a
fan site of some type, andthey're looking to try and all
they were I don't know how oldthis is and how you know when it
was last updated they're tryingto get people that like.
They're trying to organize aremaking houseboat horror.

Matt (16:36):
Going it on because it's if they can make speed on a boat
with speed two, and you got,you know, titanic being the
number one, or you know, likethe one, the highest grossing
movies of all time then.
And then you've got thePoseidon Adventure and all those
other type of boat relatedblockbusters.

(16:57):
They can do that with houseboathorror, with like infinity or
houseboat horror too.

Pete (17:03):
Exactly.
I think that rather than remakeit, they should just make a
sequel.
Yes, yeah.
Well, if, if to be can doTitanic to, we can have
houseboat horror too.

Matt (17:13):
And you know what I've seen Titanic to and yeah, yes,
it's not too bad.
Actually, I'm going how thehell are they going to cover
this?
And they did a pretty good jobat it.
Imagine it with a bigger budgetor be even better, but yeah,
it's, it'd be great.
Yeah Well, I don't know if yougot in your notes and I do

(17:33):
apologize if I have the websitewrong, but might have been
Monster Fest or something alongthe lines of that.
It was a few years ago wherethey did a prank or an April
Fool's.
Did you know anything aboutthat?

Pete (17:50):
No, don't tell us.

Matt (17:51):
All right, well, where it was, it was an April Fool's
article.
Not knowing it's April Fool's,but they were saying that the
latest release of HouseboatHorror coming out I think it was
either Blu-ray or 4K, with allthese extra added features this
was in around around 2019, 2018,2019.

(18:12):
So, but it turned out it was anApril Fool's article.
But now look who's laughing.
It's there.
It's on Blu-ray now.

Pete (18:22):
You can watch it.
Yeah, I mean, this movie islike definitely fits into that.
Perfect, so bad.
It's good genre of movies.
You know how some movies arejust like okay, it's another
umbrella release, but I was.
I wasn't so stupid enough tobuy it.
I was happy I bought it, Iguess.
But Winnie the Pooh, blood andHoney right, have you seen it?

Matt (18:43):
I haven't seen it, but I am aware of it.

Pete (18:45):
It's a bad movie, but it's not so bad, it's good.
It's just a bad movie, right?
Yeah, I was really.
Just because I thought, oh,this has got to be.
Because I never, I neverthought at all that Winnie the
Pooh, blood and Honey was goingto be a decent movie.
I always knew it was going tobe crap movie, but I thought, oh
well, it'll be so crap thatit'll be fun to watch.

(19:05):
But it wasn't.
It was just boring.
And whereas this movie is a hellof a lot of fun to watch and
it's got really bad dialogue,it's got really bad acting,
there's some really weird cutsand shots.
Like especially there's thatscene where John Michael
Housen's talking to the guys atthe at the boat place and in the

(19:30):
middle of a shot of him talkingwe cut to this the other guy
I've forgotten his name, theblonde guy who's a bit of a
dickhead and he's making someweird face and it's just like
that's some terrible cuts.
But it's a really really funwatch and watching it I'd love
to watch this with like matesthat are really fun, like minded

(19:51):
mates.
I mean.
You know, when you sometimeswatch it with people that just
don't some people get it, somepeople don't get it, but if
you're watching it with you know, if I was watching it with some
of the guys that I talked to onTwitter and wherever about
horror movies and stuff likethat, I think we'd have a great
time.
Like I'd love watching it withJay, right, yeah.

Matt (20:10):
It would be fun.
I watched it in line up forthis podcast and I hadn't
watched the movie in years but Iwatched it as a refresher, but
with my wife and my wife has notseen the movie at all and, yeah
, she's American and introducingher to this movie it was a lot

(20:35):
of fun watching her react tothis movie and did you like it?
She understood the concept ofit all where it was.
Yeah, don't take it tooseriously.
Yeah, yeah, it was a lot of fun, so we enjoyed our night
watching it.

Pete (20:53):
Oh, that's good.

Matt (20:53):
That's probably the politest way I could say it.

Pete (20:57):
Yeah, there's so much stuff, Like I've got so many
notes, right.
Like there's the John Michaelhouse and scene.
Like why would you have him inthe movie?
He's in the movie for what?
Three minutes, basically.
Yeah, and I'm like does he playhimself?
Is he playing himself in themovie and he's carrying this
horror book?
Why is he carrying this horrorbook?
It's like it makes no sense.

Matt (21:17):
Could he be a deceler?

Pete (21:19):
Well, no, that was it right, he was carrying a knife
in the way he was looking at theknife and all this, and there's
a.

Matt (21:25):
Well, there was a fact that a big star like him of the
time just happened to go to LakeInfinity to chill for a holiday
.
Like, honestly, he's theHollywood gossip man.
Like do you think he would havegot overseas or anything?

(21:47):
No, but no, lake Infinity.

Pete (21:49):
He's going to do some fishing.
He's going to catch some fishand figure out how to get them
off the hook.
I think, yeah, what to them?
Yeah, some really strange stuffin this movie, but I think
that's what makes it great.
There's a scene where there'sthat book nerd guy, the guy
reading the book all the time,right, and the book's called Sir
Garwain and the Green Knightand he someone says something

(22:10):
about it must have some greatsex scenes or something in it.
And he says and then he startstalking about Nazis.
And I'm like what's, what's SirGarwain and the Green Knight
got to do with Nazis?
Ha, ha, ha.
Ha Makes sense.
But I think that's what makesthe movie.
It's so fun, right.

Matt (22:29):
Yeah, I enjoyed the fact that when they were at the
petrol station where JohnMichael makes his appearance and
stuff the fact that petrol wastwenty one dollars fifty.

Pete (22:41):
Oh yeah.

Matt (22:41):
For like for the fill up.
For the total fill up.

Pete (22:44):
Yeah, I said that I was watching it with May, with my
wife, last night, and we bothwent oh my God, it only cost
twenty one dollars to fill thecar with petrol.
Yeah, and they had three typesof petrol at that petrol station
.

Matt (22:58):
Yeah, it was a letter diesel and.

Pete (23:02):
And unleaded.

Matt (23:03):
Yeah, and unleaded yeah.

Pete (23:05):
He said do you want number one, number two or number three
?
And for some reason he's hepicked number two, Number two,
something, and he says that'sdiesel.
You want diesel?
He said no, I don't want superor something like that, it's
just.
It's such a great movie.

Matt (23:21):
Sparkling dialogue right there.

Pete (23:23):
Oh, the dialogue is fantastic.
And there's the bit where AlanDale and I'm going to call
people by their actors namesrather than their characters
names, I know and Alan Dale andthe girl he goes to the
houseboat with, so Alan Daleplays the director of the movie
shoot right.
And they they're driving incars and they're driving

(23:44):
parallel to each other on thewrong side of the road and I'm
thinking, hang on, they're notfilming this with one of these
cars on a trailer, they'reactually driving and it looks
like the way the lights on AlanDale's face is like a light or
something shining up in his faceso you can see him from the
other car and like they'redriving on the wrong side of the

(24:06):
road.
Well, I mean, that's guerrillafilmmaking, right.

Matt (24:10):
Yeah, and they're on their walkabout phones.
They walk.
The walkabout is being phonething yeah there's massive
phones.

Pete (24:21):
I know they get a call out in the at the end of the movie
as being supplied by Telstra inthe credits.

Matt (24:29):
Telecom you got to make sure you got to get the air
Right.
Telecom.

Pete (24:34):
Have to get that right and that's seen.
That seems great.
And there's a guy who spins outafter the.
He goes around and he gets outof his car.
Are you fucking idiots orsomething like that.

Matt (24:45):
So yeah, that dialogue went quite long where on the in
the cars parallel to each otheryeah.
So, it was just like, oh, likemy cringiness was kicking in of
I was going to be another car orget off your phone.
Get off your phone.
You shouldn't be on your phonelike that.
So it's right.

Pete (25:06):
There's so many things wrong with that scene, oh great.
And the other thing that'sreally interesting about this
movie is Deborah Lee Farnes wasthe casting manager, or whatever
you call them, and she wassupposed to be in this movie
playing I've forgotten thecharacter's name again but the
strange, the strange woman who'srelated to the killer, and for

(25:28):
some reason at the last minuteso I understand from watching
some of the extras on theBlu-ray at the last minute she
decided she wasn't going to doit.
I'd say she probably thought,oh shit, I'm not going to be in
this.
How am I ever going to meetHugh Jackman if I'm in this
movie?
Right, and she opted out andthe other actor came in like at
the last minute to do the Do the.

Matt (25:50):
Yeah, that wasn't that Um Louise Silverson.
That's it, yeah, and thecitizens are my apologies.

Pete (25:58):
And that character is really is really strange.

Matt (26:02):
I thought it's meant to be kind of like Jason or he's you
know like, kind of like themother type.

Pete (26:09):
Yeah, like Pamela Voorhees , yeah, yeah.

Matt (26:11):
Yeah, pamela, that's it.
Yeah, kind of mimicked herstyle.

Pete (26:17):
A little bit.
Yeah, yeah, it's really funny.
And then when she walks offwith the final three survivors
at the end of the movie, I waslike, oh, do they get killed?
Is she basically leading themback to you know the killer, or
is she actually going to helpthem?
I was like, please, kill animal, kill animal.

Matt (26:42):
But that's the thing.
It's why this is where thesequel you know a potential
sequel could come in, as like,did they survive?

Pete (26:49):
That's right.
It's exactly right.
Yeah, it's great.
What are some of the stuff thatstuck out for you?

Matt (26:56):
Well, obviously I got a big thrill out of watching, you
know, gavin Woods moment, yeah,when you know, guys, girls, come
up here, the views make me haveset your bar up Wine.
So yes, so party time.
Sorry, I got to get it right.
Guys, girls, party time.

(27:17):
You know, come up here, theviews make them sent you bar up,
you're well.

Pete (27:23):
He does that and he does these, that he's got these other
scenes where they're sort ofhe's kind of almost like
commentating on what people aredoing.

Matt (27:32):
It's yeah, it's odd.
It's like it was like commontree before.
Common tree was a thing in onextras, on on physical media.

Pete (27:42):
But he was doing it in the movie, in the movie.

Matt (27:47):
But hey, when he's talking he's always in the shit, so,
but it was.
I was mesmerised by, like, theexcuses that they had for one of
the character that's about todie, where I've got his name,
but the guy who was just havingacts practice.

Pete (28:07):
Oh my God, practicing for cutting firewood.

Matt (28:10):
Yes, it's like oh, I'm just practicing while he's just
cutting away at the tree for noreason.
Yeah, it was like uh, geez,could he be the killer?
Why didn't he just?

Pete (28:24):
he was so annoying to us, really happy when he went.
He was remember who's coming.
When everyone woke up thatmorning banging on a pot with
that, the good old wakey, wakey,hands up, sneaky bit.

Matt (28:36):
Yeah, and then there was the whole oh, someone didn't
sleep in their own bed.

Pete (28:43):
Oh God.

Matt (28:45):
But other than that, then there was also yeah, I'm going
to do what you did too and thatis just referred to him by their
real names.
So, but with Ellen Dale's, youknow, his character's name is
Grant Evans, because I thoughtat one stage did I just say
Grant or Greg Evans, yeah, soit's that line where, um, where

(29:07):
Gavin Woods saying the guy'sname and he says Grant arming,
and then he says Greg orsomething like that.

Pete (29:14):
He gets it mixed up and I think I wonder if he did that
for you know, on purpose, orwhether he just missed it and
thought Greg Evans, yeah,perfect match.

Matt (29:24):
It's the perfect match.
Yeah, for like peaches andcreep, yeah, anyway.

Pete (29:32):
What a show.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Like peaches and creep and the contra team Like
sand in the sea and the birds inthe beach, like a monster and a
pearl, the guy and a girl.
What have you got?
You got a perfect match.
Yes, it's perfect match.
Now welcome the star of ourshow Greg Evans.

Pete (29:58):
My best friend was on that .

Matt (30:00):
Oh really, yes.
Oh goodness gracious, did theywalk away with any prizes, or I?

Pete (30:05):
can't remember.
I remember she told us a storyone day and like she went on the
date and they're apparentlyvery heavily like um chaperone
and stuff like that.
Ah, yeah, it didn't work.
You know, it was all like seeyou later at the end of the
weekend.

Matt (30:20):
Yeah, we got a holiday out of it, and that was exactly
right yeah.
But when, uh, Grant slash Alanwas directing the band members
when they were recording thevideo clip, and then it's like,
hey, you got to act like you'reyoung and horny and like they
don't look young.
So maybe horny, yeah, but youknow, when you got the they're

(30:46):
all scruffy looking, um, and itlooked like they're in their
early thirties and some of thehigh on whatever.

Pete (30:55):
Alan Dale was also very good.
Get off my lawn guy a couple oftimes in the movie with with
the whole.
Why are they still awake?
Why do you stop doing that?

Matt (31:06):
Well, well, every time Alan Dale pops up somewhere like
um, you know I've judged me allyou want, but I only watched
lost for the first time, um,roughly a year ago, like the
entire series ever since it cameout on Disney plus and I've
finished it.
And then the Sinner's Alan Dalecame on, um, playing the

(31:27):
billionaire you know show I wentoh, housebird horror.
And then, you know, when he'spopped up on the X files it's
either um, you know neighbors,or Housebird horror.

Pete (31:40):
Yeah, he's actually had an interesting career.
To be honest, he's actuallydone quite well for himself
really.
Yeah, he's become a big movieactor or anything, but he's done
lots of TV.

Matt (31:51):
Oh, plenty of it.
And the OC as well.
And um, yeah, just popping upin various well-known things and
then we don't give him muchpraise.
But it's other.
I guess Australia it's.
We would just go.
Oh, you're the neighbor's guy.
You're the one who dropped itof a heart attack in the show.

Pete (32:09):
That's right.
He did too the other thingabout Alan Dale in this when he
was on the phone to the guycalled Harold and he was calling
him Harold.
I was getting major neighbors.
So look, oh my God, he's likehe's talking to Harold again
from.
Oh that's fantastic.

Matt (32:29):
So that's where it gets to meta.
Or you just go to referencehere, reference there and yeah,
no, it's.
That is really good.
And the fact that, um, what,especially when animal or the
character that animal played um,he actually had some dialogue
which I was stunned at.

(32:50):
So I've never really heard hisvoice because on hey, hey, every
time I threw it to him, they hewas just up to some something
mischievous or anything likethat.
But he actually spoke and gone.
You know what, if you polishedhimself up, he could have
actually been a decent actor.

Pete (33:07):
Yeah, yeah, he was annoying in this though.
Oh but his character was yeah,obviously, but it's almost like
they, like you were justalluding to, like when they
hired him for this, they werelike, oh, just do what you do in
.
Hey, hey, it's Saturday andthen it'll be fine, he's part of
my drink, he's part of mydrinking game as well.

Matt (33:25):
So yeah, well, when they're singing the song for the
clip or sinking to it or mimingit, and the fact that he's
doing the drums, fine, but thenhe purposely hesitates to go out
of sync.

Pete (33:43):
Yeah, it's really funny, like my wife's.
Like what's he hitting?
And it looks like he's got somevery early.
Besides the bongos that he'salways playing, he's got some
very early.
Well, not that it looks like a.
So I've got one.
It's called the SPD We'll we'llbe at SPD 20.
Maybe it's a Roland electronicpercussion thing I don't know if

(34:04):
it's a Roland or it's some noname one or something and they
usually have about 10, eight or10 pads on them and you can
assign different sounds to them.
They've got the sounds or builtin, et cetera, and and it seems
like he's got one of those andhe's just using that, but either
way he's pulling his hand backand hitting the hand.
It's so funny.

Matt (34:22):
Put it this way for anyone , for the younger generation
Think when you listen to thisepisode, think of him playing
guitar hero or drum band, guitarband or band hero, whatever it
is Rock band.
Yeah, rock band, yeah, yeah,yeah With the drum.
So not it's, but yeah it's.

(34:45):
I did also was ready for thatgratuitous nudity throughout the
movie.

Pete (34:53):
So what's with the scene where animal is walking up to
like on land, he gets off theboat and he's standing on a tree
and then there's a naked woman,who's not even in the rest of
the movie, just standing aroundnear the water and he's I don't
know if it's like is it ahallucination?

(35:15):
It's like this really weirdscene where you just get this
woman naked out of nowhere onthe water.

Matt (35:21):
Yeah, it's like that.
The producers have just gone.
Oh, who wants to get naked andbe in the movie for a moment?

Pete (35:28):
Yeah.

Matt (35:29):
Yeah, they need to fill time.

Pete (35:31):
There's some interesting nudity in this film, and and I
shouldn't say interesting nudityit sounds weird, but there's a
couple of scenes where there'ssome nudity, right, and it's
like okay, obviously they justwant to do.
They've got everything else,they've got the violence and
they've got all this other stuff.
They've got the music, you know, those great hits by Brian
Manix, as they say on the cover,and all this stuff.

Matt (35:54):
Yeah, it's.
This horrific flick containsnudity and knockout.
Brian Manix song hits.

Pete (36:00):
That's it.
Knockout Brian Manix songswhich we're going to talk about,
but other stuff.
You got other stuff.

Matt (36:05):
Yeah, Um, I've got a note here which I didn't really fill
it out, uh, but hopefully if Isay it it will trigger something
which you might know what I'mtalking about.
But I think the line which Icack myself laughing over was
I've got here, don't fuck around.
Is what he said when a machetemisses his head.

Pete (36:27):
It's really interesting.
Did you watch this last nightwith the subtitles on oh?
Yeah, it's always interestingwatching a movie with subtitles,
because sometimes the subtitlesaren't exactly, you know right.
And there's a few, there's afew instances in the movie where
there's a start of a subtitleand then in brackets it says
inaudible.
Well, there's some places wherethe the subtitles don't really

(36:53):
match.
I'm not sure how.
I'm assuming these days theymost likely use I'm not sure how
umbrella did it, but I'massuming they most likely use AI
these days.

Matt (37:06):
Right To well, yeah, they probably run it through like a
program, like D script, and thenjust go from there.
It's like, oh, that's closeenough, it will do.
That's close.
Yeah, our budget doesn't?
We've just spent so much moneyon trying to digitally restore
the film.

Pete (37:19):
Yeah, which they did a really good job.
We'll talk about that.
There's actually quite a fewkills in this movie, there's

(37:55):
like 13, which is another,almost like a ripoff of.

Matt (37:59):
Well, you counted yeah.
Oh, I guess.

Pete (38:01):
No, I cheated.
I found a.
I found a link.

Matt (38:05):
Yeah, I loved it when one of the guys you know when he got
starved with the syringe in theface and then the annoying guy
yeah.
Yeah, and the machete in thestomach.
But he's all to the ground inbetween the trees and like
really awkwardly, and then hedoes that whole last gasp of air

(38:26):
like yeah, it's like wow, givethat guy a logie.

Pete (38:30):
That was great, my wife thought that was hilarious the
way he died.
So, yeah, yeah, he's definitelydead, I think.
I think so, yeah, so yeah, thisis 13 kills, eight males and
five females.
In this movie, I think myfavorite one is probably, well,
besides, alan Dale getting hishead split in two, which is kind

(38:53):
of fun Spoiler alert, if you're.

Matt (38:54):
Oh Jesus.

Pete (38:57):
But I think my favorite one is the woman that has the
horseshoe pushed into our face.
That's kind of something you'venever seen before.

Matt (39:06):
Oh the horseshoe.
Well, my wife and I werewatching that moment and because
it was done in slow motion andthe girl, the ladies just
screaming and going, no, it'skind of like why scream for use
that time and energy to get thehell out of there.
It's like, oh no, it's comingright for me, so yeah, but oh

(39:29):
well, it's it's hilarious.

Pete (39:31):
I like I didn't.
I don't think they did a greatjob with it, but I thought, okay
, as a murder weapon.
I thought that's something Ihaven't seen before.

Matt (39:40):
Well, I give credit to my darling wife, nicole, where she
said well, I guess she wasn'tthat lucky.

Pete (39:50):
Well, I think I said something like oh, they're just
horsing around, so it'sdefinitely one of those sort of
movies, right?

Gavin Wood (39:58):
Yeah, that's what's so enjoyable about it.

Pete (40:00):
It's pretty good and then Gavin Wood gets a good kill.
He gets the, the spear gun.
Oh yeah, well, he's trying toput a condom on.
Yeah, I know Right, he'stalking to.
He's talking to his penis,telling it to get up because
he's gonna get lucky.

Matt (40:19):
I did.
I will point out one of theother lines that he did say,
yeah, where one of the women wascoming out and sees all the
blood and gunk and stuff likethat on the wall with the
slaughtered animal, the guts andstuff like that, and then he
goes oh shit, what's top ofasshole would do that.
So he's just sitting.

Pete (40:38):
He says it too.

Matt (40:39):
Yeah, so with his kind of VB, and yeah, it just calls it
out like that's.
That's brilliant yeah.

Pete (40:47):
And as much as I like the horseshoe kill, I think actually
I think one of the best killsthat's actually pulled off in
this movie is the one in bedwhere the woman stabbed from the
bottom of the bed.

Matt (40:58):
Oh yeah, that's pretty cool.

Pete (41:00):
That's actually pretty cool.

Matt (41:01):
That reminded me of I think it was nightmare on Elm
Street or what's the They'vedone it a couple of time in the
Friday.

Pete (41:10):
Films like they did it to Kevin Bacon.

Matt (41:12):
Yes, that's the one yeah.

Pete (41:13):
And then they did it in Friday, for I think in the final
chapter, or no Friday 3.
Sorry, I know my Friday 30films a little bit too much yeah
.

Matt (41:25):
Just just casually lying there in bed naked reading a
book and then like all right,wow, this book is suddenly.
It's really, really sharp.

Pete (41:38):
Yes, it was pretty good.
It's pretty good.
I really enjoyed it.

Matt (41:42):
And I do think one more line where another cast member,
where I think it was having afight with the guy that the
murderer or the killer and hegoes oh, piss off.

Pete (41:54):
and then before he cops the machete, I actually said to
me at the time.
I said do you know what?
That's actually probably one ofthe more realistic kind of bits
of a written dialogue in thismovie, because it's kind of the
thing that an Aussie would sayif someone was trying to kill
you.
Be like, oh, fuck off or pissoff.

Matt (42:14):
Yeah, piss off you see.
Yeah, exactly Right.
And then we're like down thecan.
I swear too much on it.

Pete (42:24):
Yeah, you can swear.

Matt (42:25):
Go because it's explicit we like oh where's Baba, oh, the
cunt's dead, Sorry yeah.

Pete (42:34):
It's very Australian, very awkward.
It is very awkward, yeah, yeah.
Like I said, this movie is morefun than it should be and
obviously I like it way morethan I should.

Matt (42:50):
I agree.
I feel the same way.
I've got a newfoundappreciation for the movie, like
I do.
Other than earning the Blue Ray, I still got the DVD as well.

Pete (43:01):
And signed by Brian Mannix .

Matt (43:03):
Well, I will confess I there was a stage where I had to
, unfortunately, sell the movie.
It's an instant regret, but Ididn't make a hundred bucks out
of it.
I wasn't asking for that amount.
Well, I threw it up on thereand even though it had signed
hey, matt, this is the worstAustralian movie ever and yet

(43:27):
someone bought it because I hadthe photos to prove that.
I had Brian hold the DVD infront of me as well.
So just to prove it was it.

Pete (43:35):
but I can't take your memory away.

Matt (43:38):
No.
So I went and bought the DVDagain and hopefully, if I bumped
into Brian Mannix again, I'llget an assignment again.
So, yeah, times were tough atthat time for me, so yeah, have
to do stuff occasionally.
Yeah, but hey, now it's got twocopies and I'm bloody loving it
.

Pete (43:59):
The other thing that's interesting about this movie is
the amount of reuse shots in themovie.
Have you noticed that?
There's a few that I noticed.
One is when the killer'sburning and there's the
flashback of somebody burningpreviously because of the movie,
people or something, and youknow how there was like a prior

(44:20):
evil, right, the good old priorevil that happened, or the prior
.

Matt (44:23):
Oh yes.

Pete (44:24):
Yes, so the same shot of the guy twisting around and on
fire is the same shot at the endof the movie when the killer's
twisting around and on fire atthe top of the boat.

Matt (44:34):
Oh goodness, so there's that.
Well, maybe you budget cuts forthat, maybe.

Pete (44:39):
And then there's the dock shot from the water At the very
end.
You've got the bit where thehand comes up right At the end,
which is another Friday, the13th, ripoff, sort of thing.
And there's a shot earlier inthe movie, exactly the same
angle, but just the hand doesn'tcome up.
So it was probably just justbefore that happened.
And there's the bit where theguy's playing the piano in the

(45:00):
bar, the guitar plays, playingpiano, and twice they go back to
them and he's playing exactlywith the same piece and it's
exactly the same scene.

Matt (45:08):
I'm sure that that it's the same scene and then they
just flip it all to make it looklike there's a different scene.

Pete (45:17):
The editor of the movie.
I actually want to find hisname and give him some credit
because, like edited by ClaytonJacobson, where he was saying
that when they finished filmingthe movie, he looked at all the
rushes and he said there's nosuspense in this movie and he
was saying that he actually shota heap, made it did a heap of

(45:41):
shots, of insert shots, thingslike the killer's hand on a tree
or all sorts of other bits andpieces, just really short shots
that weren't originally shot tobuild some suspense in the movie
.
He and he did things like therewas a park near Channel 10 or
something where the, where hewas editing and they did a lot
of the shots there and andthings like that.

(46:03):
He was saying that he worked,he worked on the movie for like
months trying to put it in and,once again, didn't get a cent
for it.

Matt (46:11):
Well, I was going to say but wouldn't the suspense be
that the sampling of synthsthat's being used in it during
our moments?

Pete (46:22):
of those synth sounds, man , yeah, yeah.

Matt (46:24):
But that's great.
It is amazing how yeah liketalking about the suspense and
stuff and there's only so muchyou can do when it's filmed on
tape.

Pete (46:36):
Yeah, it's filmed on video , right?
Yeah, and that's the wholething.
It's really and there's all thebits where I don't know if it's
the lens they're using orwhatever it is where it covers
one of the corners of the frame.
If you watch the movie, there'slots of that.

Matt (46:51):
Yeah, I'd say that maybe when it was on VHS and every
other TVs were for 4x3, that waskind of cut off.
So you know how sometimes youget the trimming or whatever
where it's.
We're never meant to see it,but because of the restoration
we get to see everything.

Pete (47:10):
Get to see it a bit more.
Yeah yeah, didn't see any booms, though, any mic booms, but
maybe they didn't even use any.
Oh, did you find one?

Matt (47:17):
I thought I briefly saw one, but I didn't make a time
mark on it.
It was either that or I alsosaw a camera shadow.

Pete (47:27):
Oh, okay, yeah, because.

Matt (47:28):
I'm a stickler for those things, yep, and I swear I did
probably see a boom for like asplit second, but yeah, right.
Yeah, I wish I made a note ofthe time stamp for it.

Pete (47:43):
The other thing is the bottle of milk.
Did you notice the bottle ofmilk?
When the woman pours the milkout for the cat and we come back
later in the things almostempty.

Matt (47:52):
Yeah, I wrote it down on my phone.
Yeah, leaves milk out.

Pete (47:57):
I lose the milk out as well, right, who does that?

Matt (48:00):
Oh, it's just cringe worthy.
It's like the way and I'm goingback to the very beginning, but
only because it's a beveragerelated thing is, when they came
out of the petrol station orthe bait thing and they'll
having, they brought out coffeesand they filled right up to the
rim, but there's no lead, sohot coffees in the car heading

(48:21):
out to like infinity.
That's going to be a disasterright there.
It is.
Yeah.
No wonder why the guy gotburned, because it's you know
well, yeah, it's milk and coffee.
That's just no base, but thatjust don't care.

Pete (49:01):
There's no safety Because I spent so much fucking time on
it.
I can't go without talkingabout the lyrics for the song
called Young and Groovy.
It's a centerpiece of this film, but it's just got the most
amazing lyrics like.
My favorite one is like tonightshe's mine, I will never cause,

(49:21):
I'm not that guy, whatever thatmeans.
And she's hot in bed.
She's coming soon.
At least that's what she says,and I don't know if that's like
she's coming soon because she'shot in bed or she's coming soon
because he's waiting for twolayers of lyrics are like crazy.

Matt (49:43):
That's why the knockout.

Pete (49:44):
Yeah, it's another knockout hit from Brian Manix.
Poor Brian Manix, he wrotebetter songs.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
I think I said that earlier about the girl lost on
squirrel.
She lost her windowchair, thatand she's hot in bed.
She's coming soon.
At least that's what she says.

(50:37):
She's on a date with you.
She's on a date with me.
She's on a date with you.
She's on a date with me.
She's on a date with you.
She's on a date with me.

Pete (50:52):
You're on a date with me.
Oh, you're like 50 years andstuff like that.
Did you ever listen to that onKenny X?
Maybe?

Matt (51:00):
Yeah, again, like the, my previous work and all that was
working at classic hits radiostations and that they would be
played a fair bit.
So 50 years is a good, is afavorite song.
Yeah, I'd say that Brian isquite underappreciated.

Pete (51:18):
And Kenny X men are a great little band, so of course
still gigging.

Matt (51:21):
I'm not sure everybody wants to work.

Pete (51:24):
No, no, that's a great song, I love it.
So, oh, no, not me yeah that'scool.

Matt (51:29):
You go from that to I'm cool, she's hot.

Pete (51:33):
No, right, can't put my finger on just what she's got.
She's got to hit at midnight.
And I couldn't figure out whatwas after that.
Neither could the subtitles,because the subtitles just say
at midnight, inaudible yeah, Ilove it.
And I spent 10 minutes tryingto figure out what that next

(51:55):
part of it was.
I couldn't figure it out.
So, brian Mannix, if you're outthere, can you please send us
the proper lyrics please?
We need them.
We need them.
Most likely I'll get a takedownnotice, not because of any
copyright issues, but because hejust doesn't want to Please get
rid of this song.
But it makes the movie, thatwhole clip, the whole piece

(52:16):
where they're doing the filmclip and this song's going.
It's so corny but it's reallyfunny.
And they've got those twodancing girls, those two girls
doing that very 80s kind ofdancing.
It's hilarious.

Matt (52:31):
It just shows the era of that too, because no one's
flaunting their cleavage or notscantily clad.
But yeah, they're just there toenjoy and as our two models is
great.
Grant Evans say hey, you'reyoung and horny.

Pete (52:48):
It's amazing that the whole song is in the film.
It's like okay, this must bethe song they wanted to put in
the movie.
And then there's a bit earlierwhere they're kind of playing it
on the boat, just with thebongos and the thing, and the
guitarist in the band is sayingwhat a shit song it is and
animals, yeah, like it is a crapsong.
Blah, blah, blah and it's likehang on, it sounds like then

(53:10):
they just he's just introducingthe band to this song and then
later it's all done and producedand everything and they're
doing the film clip.
I'm like that doesn't reallymake sense.
But anyway, nothing in thisfilm makes sense.

Matt (53:22):
She's young and no hang on .
Can I kiss you?
No, can you One, two, three,four.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
Hey, listen, one, two , three, four.
She's young and she's cool andshe's groovy.
She's young and she's cool byme.
She's young and she's cool andshe's groovy.
Young and cool is all right byme.
I cannot like it.
Yeah, I know, man, but the songreally is a bag of shit.

Matt (53:52):
Well, you got any better suggestions about no, no Fence
brother.
Far a bit from it.
A criticised.
But does the word puke ring abell?

Speaker 4 (54:00):
So what do you feel about it, guys?
I don't really feel bad aboutit.
Listen, everyone has to do yoursongs all the fucking time, no
matter how bad they are, andthis is just like a fucking
fucking song from one session.

Matt (54:10):
I've got good songs.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
I've got fucking good songs.
You've got good songs.

Matt (54:12):
Yeah, I've got put in yeah , like the use of the jet boat
or the speed boat or yeah.
Yeah, it's like that they'vegone, but we're certain money on
it, so we better made some useout of it, even though it
doesn't really make sense.
It's just used for filler.

Pete (54:30):
Yeah, I was.
I said to May last night thoughI wouldn't mind going on a
houseboat.
I've never been on a houseboatbefore.
Oh, maybe not at Lake Yildon,that's where it was shot right
Lake Yildon Maybe.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
That would be fun, wouldn't it.

Matt (54:43):
I wonder if any of the boats that they had featured in
this movie are still existing,like the houseboats.
Or, if they were, they'll be.

Pete (54:52):
Anyone in Melbourne want to go out to Lake Yildon and
check for it?
That'd be great.
Let's give John.

Matt (54:56):
Michael, a call yeah.

Pete (54:59):
He's still live, right?
Yeah, he's still Some reason.
I thought he was gone.

Matt (55:02):
No, no, no, You're probably thinking of Bernard
King or someone.

Pete (55:06):
Probably someone like that .

Matt (55:07):
Yeah, yeah, and like call John Michael and you ask him
about he'll get, oh, outrageous.

Pete (55:15):
I loved him in nightmares.

Matt (55:17):
Oh, you know what I'm saying.

Pete (55:19):
He's so good in nightmares .

Matt (55:21):
After we watched houseboat horror, we were in the mood for
a cheesy slasher film.
So keep with the genre.
And we watched nightmares, soit's like oh, that's almost
special abuse mate.
Oh, that's, it was a JohnMichael double feature.

Pete (55:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, I love that movie.
It's so good yeah.

Matt (55:42):
The good truth is sex scenes and everything.
Yeah, it's so nasty.

Pete (55:45):
It's actually quite nasty, that film.

Matt (55:47):
Oh, it is yeah.

Pete (55:49):
It's very good.

Matt (55:50):
Now we only got through about three quarters of it
before we called it a night.

Pete (55:55):
Yeah, yeah yeah.
The song is amazing and it'sdefinitely going to be on the
podcast.

Matt (56:01):
Put it on iTunes, Brian.

Pete (56:03):
Yeah, come on, put it on Spotify as well.

Matt (56:06):
Yeah, $2.19.

Pete (56:08):
I want to be able to add it to my my companion playlist.
I've got a companion playliston Spotify where I try and find
the songs that are used in allthese movies, and I've made a
playlist of them, so yeah you'regoing to struggle with
houseboat, that's for sure.
Yeah, there's nothing yet it'sa bit of a bummer.

Matt (56:26):
It's going to do the entire uncanny X-Men library.

Pete (56:29):
Exactly Well, umbrella guys, come on.
When you did the man from HongKong, we got a soundtrack CD.
When you did Dead Kids, we gota CD of music.
Where's the soundtrack forHouseboat Horror?
Come on, Someone's got to dothat.
God knows where the originalrecordings are.

Matt (56:45):
Oh yeah, they're probably lost somewhere.
Yeah, Probably like where the Iwas going to say wherever they
found the video tapes, themasters for this, but no.

Pete (56:58):
They'd be somewhere because someone they would have
been recorded in a recordingstudio, so someone would have
the masters somewhere.

Matt (57:03):
Unless they were just that bad they just like burn these
burn them, the masters could besealed up and at the bottom of
Lake Infinity.

Pete (57:10):
They could be.

Matt (57:11):
Yeah.

Pete (57:12):
The other really important thing that I actually worked on
last night was creating aHouseboat Horror drinking game.

Matt (57:19):
You're pissed, you must be .
Your face is all blurred.

Pete (57:27):
And drinking games are really simple because you just
wait for things to happen andyou take a drink, right.
So the ones I came up with isevery is the title, the title
card, you've got to have a drinkwhen the title card comes up,
because it's so good.
Every time you see somebodydrinking or a can or a bottle of
VB, you got to have a drink.
When he flies buzzing, you gotto have a drink.

(57:47):
Any time there's bongo drumsbeing played, you have to drink.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
We were spokaneff with me, best friend.

Matt (58:00):
Right here, I'm missing.

Pete (58:03):
Any mention of the underground disco you have to
drink.
And then every mention of movieor film people you have to
drink.

Gavin Wood (58:13):
All the time, do you ?
What worries?

Speaker 4 (58:15):
me about movie people .
Is they stuff up in them?

Gavin Wood (58:18):
in their way.
Yeah, 40 teams of the same.
Yeah, it brings back memoriesthat those movie killings a few
years back, yeah, they weremaking movies, they were film
people.

Pete (58:33):
Any time animal seeks attention or his character seeks
attention and that one will getyou very drunk because he does
it all the time.
Any mention of prior evil.
Or you hear any piece of thepiece of music of the song Young
and Groovy.
If you hear a bit of thatsomewhere, because you hear that
a couple of times take a drinkthere, can you add any of that?

(58:54):
Can you think of any you wantto add to that?

Matt (58:56):
Any time there's, tell people to piss off or you know,
fuck off or anything like thathave a drink Kessler.
Or when it's just somethingthat is just not deemed safe at

(59:19):
all, like driving or coffeeswith no lids on it and just
stuff where you've got to thinktwice about it.
Or just scenes, just momentswhere it's like what are you
setting this up for?
Like, as I mentioned earlier,parts of that make sense where
he's just practicing choppingtrees.

Gavin Wood (59:39):
Just practicing, in case we need firewood.

Pete (59:43):
But I actually that would be a good one Every time he says
he's just practicing choppingwood because there's three
drinks there.

Matt (59:48):
Yeah Well, also brick phones.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
Sorry telecom.

Matt (59:53):
Walk about phone thingies, yeah, so you see him every time
you see one in shot or beingused drink oh oh, I'm in the
shit.

Pete (01:00:07):
So let's let's move on and talk a bit about the Blu-ray,
because it's come out recently,because this movie I guess
sometimes on my podcast.
One of the things I'll talkabout is where you can watch
this movie, right, and I don'tthink there's anywhere you can
watch this movie, which is goingto make it very limiting to a
lot of people listening to thepodcast trying to find the movie

(01:00:29):
if they don't want to buy theBlu-ray.
Like the great thing, no matterwhere you are in the world, all
the umbrella Blu-rays are allregion free.
Even though they say region Bon them, they're all region free
apparently.
So if you're in the US orwherever, you can just order off
their website and and it'sit'll get it.
I don't think it's anywhereelse Now.

(01:00:51):
I think there's probably a fullversion of this somewhere on
YouTube If you look, most likelyprobably not a great version,
it's probably your VHS orsomething, but that'll just add
to the add to the experience,right, but this is released.
I think it was released in June, right?
You can get mine too, a coupleof weeks ago.

(01:01:11):
There's a standard Blu-ray, asyou said, and there's a limited
edition set, and the limitededition set's got some really
cool lectures.
So there's 350 copies they madeof that.
It's got a custom artwork slipcase, which is quite nice.
It's got the little band inQueensland Pin.
It's got some art cards.
They kind of look like I guessalmost like a lobby card, but
not quite.

(01:01:32):
It's got a reversible poster,which is really cool, and it's
got this great little 48 pagebook.
In some of the releases latelythey've been releasing little
books and stuff and this booklethas clippings from the
newspaper articles or fromfanzines.
It's got little productionnotes in it.

(01:01:55):
It's got just stuff about theQueensland you know the band in
Queensland movies and thingslike that.
It's really good.
Lots of special features righton the disc itself.
Did you have any specialfeatures that stuck out for you
on there besides the Late Showbit?
The Late Show bit is great.

Matt (01:02:14):
Yeah, the Late Show bit is great, but I have to say I'm
disappointed in the quality onit.
So they've ripped it directlyfrom YouTube.
But other than the Gavin Woodinterview, which is good, and in
fact just beforehand I waslistening to the commentary with
Tony Martin and the filmhistorian Jarrett Gahan

(01:02:36):
Apologies if I've said his nameincorrectly, but that was quite
informative as well, especiallywhen Tony's admitting it's like
oh, I didn't have much to dowith the movie other than talk
about it on the Late Show.
But the 30th anniversary Q&Athe Monster Fest Q&A was really,
really cool and yeah, I haven'tgone through all of them yet,

(01:02:58):
but ever since you know I don'twant to take the steel your
thunder on this, but after youpointed out to me there was a,
there was an Easter egg in it Ihad a quick look at it.

Pete (01:03:10):
And you found it.

Matt (01:03:11):
I found it.

Pete (01:03:12):
Yeah, so I'll spoil it In case you haven't found it,
because a lot of people havefound it.
I think I posted something onthe Umbrella Facebook site about
it and a few people look likethey've found it.
Basically, if you go to themenus and you keep going to the
right until you come to thelittle blood drip at the end of
the knife on the main screen,then it takes you to like looks

(01:03:35):
like a student film that OliMartin made or something called
the Dumbiner or the Dumberer orsomething.
Yeah, did you watch it?

Matt (01:03:42):
I watched a bit of it and it's very arty and very weird.
Yeah.
It's because it's two guys yeah, a deaf guy or whatever going
around with talking and sayingwith headphones and stuff.
So yeah yeah, like I skimmedthrough a bit of it and he was a
bit.
He's either deaf or sensitiveto particular sounds.

(01:04:03):
Yeah, yeah, because of hisreactions to certain things.
So, yeah, I couldn't quite makeheads or tails of it.

Pete (01:04:11):
But that's very strange.
It looks like a student filmbecause it's some of the cuts
have like different colored,like blackouts not blackouts but
colored outs.
Whatever the color is, theremight be a blue one or a yellow
one or a red one, and I'm surethey all mean something.
But yeah, it's very strange.

Matt (01:04:31):
I also watched as well the before and after, like the
restoration process.
Like they did the comparisons.
So while they did a decent jobfor what the source material was
, I figured, and the splicing ofit, the way that they did it,
the comparisons, they kind ofproved what I had thought the

(01:04:55):
entire time and there was somemoments in it where the
restoration was too harsh.
So, like it looked like it wastoo burnt the color and when
they showed the part where thefirst victim of at the beginning
and when they showed theoriginal footage, and then

(01:05:16):
there's it was, and on the otherside of the screen it was the
restoration and the originalfootage.
You could see detail on herface and the color was a bit
washed and all that, but youcould see, you know, specks or
freckles or anything like that.
On the restoration it was likeit was airbrushed or too harsh.

Pete (01:05:38):
Okay, yeah.

Matt (01:05:39):
It was too bright, but that's just my observation for
being a bit OCD on that.

Pete (01:05:43):
It's hard, though I think.
I think the problem really isthe source material, right.

Matt (01:05:47):
Yeah, so they they only could do what they could do with
it and they did a decent jobfor what?
Like yeah, directly, eventhough they got that disclaimer
saying it came from here andthey had to upscale it.
Yeah and yeah, so credit tothem for doing something with it
.

Pete (01:06:03):
Yeah, no, it was good.
It was definitely a betterexperience than watching it.
You know, it would have beennice if they'd done like I think
they did with Razorback.
With their release of Razorbackthey had, like, the VHS release
as one of the extras.

Matt (01:06:18):
Oh, okay.

Pete (01:06:19):
Yeah, which would have been cool to see, like the
original release of it as one ofthe special features of the.

Matt (01:06:25):
VHS copies are just like.
Should treat them like vinylwhere it's got their warmth.

Pete (01:06:32):
But yeah, so it's a good set.
It's definitely worth buyingand you know it's a.
I guess.
To summarize my final thoughtson the film is fuck.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
I love it.

Matt (01:06:44):
Well, I enjoyed it.
It was good to, but you gottawait, watch it.
Wait a few years, watch itagain and enjoy it with a stiff
drink.

Gavin Wood (01:06:54):
Yes.

Matt (01:06:55):
And with an open mind.
So just do not take itseriously and just appreciate
the quality, the undergrounddisco quality.

Pete (01:07:08):
And what happened to the underground disco?

Matt (01:07:10):
That's a good question.
I'm not a Melbourneite orhaven't been associated with
anything.
Someone can tell us.

Pete (01:07:16):
Someone will tell us.
Someone from Melbourne tell uswhat happened to the underground
disco.
There you go.
I've asked for a few things inthis podcast.

Matt (01:07:23):
Please do.
And yeah, let us bar up.
Sorry, gavin Wood should reallytrademark that quote.

Pete (01:07:32):
He really should.

Matt (01:07:33):
Yeah, but yeah, other than that, like I enjoyed really
watching it and yeah it's, it'sa treasure.

Pete (01:07:42):
Yeah, I'll be honest, it's not a good movie, right, if you
, if I might have said it'sgreat, I'm loving it.
It's not a good movie by anystretch of the imagination, but
it's kind of I don't know.
It's made with love, I think,and it's kind of like I don't
know.
It's one of those movies isjust kind of like.
You like it because it'sbecause it's corny.

(01:08:06):
It's before the time where theywere like nudge, nudge, wink,
wink sharknado sort of thing.
You know what I mean.

Matt (01:08:14):
Yeah.

Pete (01:08:14):
It's like it's before the time of, like the oh, we know
this is going to be shit andwe're going to play up to that
when this is just innocent shit.
Right yeah, and I think that'swhy, like, I would think that
this is more fun to watch thanSharknado, for that fact, oh,
imagine that there's a houseboatseries, a trilogy or a

(01:08:37):
franchise and happens ondifferent houseboats and
different lakes.

Matt (01:08:43):
So you could maybe do like the houseboat, do a sequel of
houseboat horror and thehouseboat the original houseboat
or one of them from theoriginals blows up or sinks or
whatever, and they use elementsand the house, the murdered
houseboats, the fragments of itused to be incorporated into new

(01:09:07):
houseboats.
Yeah, I think I may havethought about that too much you
may have.
But yeah, it's been off into afranchise.

Pete (01:09:16):
Yeah, absolutely, why not?

Matt (01:09:18):
Houseboat franchise.

Pete (01:09:19):
You could remake this movie with an iPhone and it
would look better than the moviethe original movie.

Matt (01:09:28):
Oh yes, Now, with today's technology, it's just yeah, you
could do that or you could filmit, and but you have to use all
your apps and programs and liketo lower the quality to match
the original.

Pete (01:09:40):
You'd have to add all those filters, like you know,
yeah like a 1980s video filteror something and usually sent in
garage band.
Perfect, all right.
So that's houseboat horror.
What do you want to plug?
Let me know what you're doing.
I know you've got a coolwebsite.

(01:10:00):
I only just discovered itrecently.

Matt (01:10:02):
Oh, I'm sorry.
You told me that that's fair.

Pete (01:10:05):
Let us know what you're up to Let me know where you're up
to and where people can find you.

Matt (01:10:09):
Sure, okay, as I mentioned previously, and I'm one who
doesn't like plugging too muchof their own stuff, I like other
people plugging their ownthings.
That's all right, but all right, I was struck.

Pete (01:10:20):
Like I said, you're not getting paid, so you might as
well plug something.

Matt (01:10:23):
This is a big thrill, honestly.
So, yeah, champagne Comedypodcast and, yeah, that's
everything.
That's our working dog D-Genlate show.
At the time of this recording,we're reviewing frontline and
also having interviews and stufflike that.
So that's on all podcastplatforms.
So that little thing.
And yeah, my website is my geekculturecomau, where it's just a

(01:10:49):
bit of majority of it'sAustralian nostalgia niche bits
and pieces.
There's something there foreveryone and that's run by
myself and I've actually got acouple of interviews on there,
some podcasts just of, yeah,random bits and pieces.
So that might be somethingwhere you find in there and go

(01:11:10):
hey, I remember that TV show,like yeah, so just anything like
that.

Pete (01:11:15):
You anywhere on the socials.

Matt (01:11:17):
Oh plenty, twitter or whatever social media thing is
existing, whatever is stillsurviving.
You can contact me like I'm atmattfulltoncomau.
My website is mattfulltoncomau.
Yeah, so you can see all myback work of everything and

(01:11:39):
shameful photos of me rubbingshoulders with other big-notted
people like Brian Mates.

Pete (01:11:47):
I know it'll terribly date the podcast eventually, but are
you on threads yet?

Matt (01:11:51):
I actually my geek culture is, but not my personal one.
But I am on Instagram and likethat.
We're the same username,mattfulltoncomau, so if you're
trying to find me with anything,it'll be basically my website
domain without the dots.

Pete (01:12:10):
All right, Matt.
Well, thank you so much forcoming on the show.
It's been really great havingyou on.

Matt (01:12:13):
Peter, it is an absolute thrill, as I said a long time
listener, first time caller andwhat I and listeners, what
happened, how we met, is justyeah seriously my head just
exploded at the pub that we'reat.
It was just like, oh my god.

(01:12:34):
Seriously, it's an absolutethrill to do this, and I'm glad
that there's more than oneperson out there who enjoys this
stuff as much as I do.
So I worship the ground youwalk on mate, Please don't.

Pete (01:12:49):
I'm not worth worshiping.
I'm a false god.
There's nothing wrong with that.

Matt (01:12:55):
Hey, the podcast is magnificent, so keep on the
great work, mate.

Pete (01:12:58):
Oh, thank you.
I'm glad someone listens to it.
Thank you for taking the timeto listen to this episode, thank
you to all my guests who givetheir time to make this podcast
possible, and a special thanksto you for listening.
Don't forget you can follow atDingo8MyMovie on social media.
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(01:13:45):
see you on the next episode of aDingo8MyMovie.

Gavin Wood (01:13:54):
Jimmy Costello, which is always the name.
If I ever went bust in radioand creditors were trying to
find me, I'd go over to Perthand get a job on radio there and
my name would be Jimmy Costello.
That was my alter ego.

Matt (01:14:11):
Oh, wow.
So you got to play with thatand be in your own little
imaginating world really playingthat character.

Gavin Wood (01:14:18):
Yeah, that was a lot of fun.
I mean that movie.
I mean people are still talkingabout it.
It's like countdown.
It was done with the bestintentions and it was done with
heart.
That movie was done for $10,000.
Wow, yeah, we got $10,000 outof the underground disco and it

(01:14:38):
paid for some of the crew.
I did it for nothing.
A lot of people did it fornothing.
They ran out of money forcatering, so one day we got
lettuce sandwiches for lunch.
That's when we realized thatthings aren't going too well
here.
The director, kendall Flanagan,had a heart attack halfway

(01:15:03):
through and couldn't continue on, so so Ollie Martin had to
carry on and be the director.
It was a mess.
The film crew and thetelevision crew it was kind of
half-half and the film crewhated the television crew
because the television crew wereall falling down drunk and the
film crew were very professional.

(01:15:24):
There was just a lot of boozeand I think we worked for booze
for two weeks up at the Elden.
We'd never made a movie beforeand I think just the idea of
making a movie was very romanticand we did it.
Goddammit, it all appeared thatbad, but we did it.

Matt (01:15:45):
The line that you're really known for in that movie
was saying the view'smagnificent, you'll bar up.
Now was that an improv line orwas that in the script?

Gavin Wood (01:15:55):
No, it wasn't in the script.
They just said get up there andbe excited about the view.
And I went oh god, okay.
I said hey, fellas girls, guys,come up here.
It's magnificent, the view'smagnificent, you'll bar up.
And then they went perfect.

Matt (01:16:14):
That is amazing.

Gavin Wood (01:16:16):
And isn't it funny, just a simple little thing like
that stands out and remains partof the culture.
I think it's magnificent thatthis $10,000 movie is still
getting people talking about it.
It's quite amazing.
It was just controlled chaosand, as I said before, a lot of

(01:16:38):
VB.