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April 13, 2026 39 mins

Bobby  launched Protege in early 2024 to connect data holders with AI model builders. He raised a $10M seed with almost no demand pipeline. A year later, Protege jumped 30x to $30M in GMV and raised $30M from a16z.

In this episode, Bobby breaks down how he built a 250-partner data network by leveraging prior healthcare relationships, why he flies from New York every week to close seven-figure enterprise deals, and why the "texting terms" litmus test tells you if a deal is real.

Why You Should Listen

  • Why ignoring a customer's "no" can be the best sales move you make.
  • How flying to see buyers weekly became the number one growth driver.
  • Why the gap between A and A-plus talent is worth blowing your budget for.
  • How Protege went from $1M to $30M GMV in a single year.

Keywords startup podcast, startup podcast for founders, product market fit, finding pmf, AI data, enterprise sales, founder-led sales, data licensing, healthcare AI, a16z, B2B startup, Bobby Samuels, Protege

Chapters

  • 00:00:00 Intro
  • 00:03:01 Building the First Data Network
  • 00:06:12 Why In-Person Sales Changed Everything
  • 00:16:08 Going to Market with No Pipeline
  • 00:21:07 Ignoring the Lab's No
  • 00:27:40 From $1M to $30M in One Year
  • 00:34:55 Why A-Plus Talent Is Worth It
  • 00:38:28 The Moment of True Product Market Fit

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