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SPEAKER_01 (00:03):
This is Think First,
where we don't follow the
script.
We question it.
Because in a world full ofpoetic truths and professional
gaslighting, someone's got tosay the quiet part out loud.
A man is assassinated.
The country reels.
And then a late-night host stepsup and says, Well, something
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you're about to hear.
SPEAKER_00 (00:27):
We had some new lows
over the weekend with the MAGA
gang desperately trying tocharacterize this kid who
murdered Charlie Kirk asanything other than one of them,
and doing everything they can toscore political points from it.
SPEAKER_01 (00:41):
That line, it got
him suspended.
Stations blacked him out, FCCpressure mounted, and here's
Kimmel on his return, courtesyof ABC News.
SPEAKER_00 (01:06):
And the truth is, I
don't think what I have to say
is gonna make much of adifference.
If you like me, you like me.
If you don't, you don't.
I have no illusions aboutchanging anyone's mind.
But I do want to make somethingclear because it's important to
me as a human, and that is uhyou understand that it was never
my intention to make light ofthe murder of a young man.
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I don't think there's anythingfunny about it.
I posted a message on Instagramon the day he was killed,
sending love to his family andasking for compassion, and I
meant it, and I still do.
Uh, nor was it my intention toblame any specific group for the
actions of what it was obviouslya deeply disturbed individual.
That was really the opposite ofthe point I was trying to make,
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but I understand that to somethat felt either ill-timed or
unclear, or maybe both.
And for those who think I did uhpoint a finger, I get why you're
upset.
If the situation was reversed,there's a good chance I'd have
felt the same way.
SPEAKER_01 (02:07):
Let's lock down the
facts.
Kimmel's line about the MAGAgang came after Charlie Kirk's
assassination in Utah.
ABC suspended Jimmy Kimmel livefor nearly a week.
Major affiliates like Nexstarand Sinclair refused to carry
reruns or even his returnepisode.
The FCC chair hinted atregulatory consequences.
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On his return, Kimmel expressedregret, but doubled down on the
free speech frame.
That's the timeline.
Now comes the question (02:38):
what do
we do with it?
Here's the thing.
Kimmel didn't stumble into ajoke.
He deployed a line.
It wasn't improv.
It wasn't a slip.
It was deliberate framing.
And if you suggest millions ofpeople are complicit in murder,
you're not Johnny Carson.
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You're a political operativewith better lighting.
Critics said he smeared amovement with no evidence.
He used grief as a politicalprop.
Supporters said, if networks cansuspend you for one line, free
speech is already in hospice.
Comedy's job is to push theline, even when it misfires.
And both camps, ironically, havea point.
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This is where my book,Distorted, comes in handy.
One of the maxims says,gaslighting doesn't erase
memory, it erodes confidence init.
That's the danger here.
When political messaging getssmuggled in as satire, it's easy
to doubt what we heard.
Was it comedy?
Was it commentary, or was itchoreography?
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So let's zoom out.
Who gets to decide what's toofar?
The host, the network, or thegovernment?
Should satire get specialprotection even when it drifts
into propaganda?
And what's more dangerous, onebad line on TV, or institutions
setting the precedent to silencespeech that they don't like?
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Because censorship never startswith the speech you love, it
starts with the speech you hate.
Here's where I land,tentatively.
Kimmel's remark was reckless.
It wasn't satire, it was anarrative push.
But the response, pulling shows,blackouts, and FCC saber
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rattling, that's worse.
Because when government pressuredecides what comedy airs, we're
no longer arguing about JimmyKimmel.
We're arguing about whether freespeech has a pulse.
So here's the line to hold.
If free speech only covers wordswe like, it's not free speech at
all.
And if comedy is just a mask forpolitics, we need to name it
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honestly, without yanking themic.
The question isn't whetherKimmel should have said it.
The question is whether we'rewilling to let regulators and
networks decide what we get tohear.
And that, my friends, is nolaughing matter.
When a joke starts sounding lesslike satire and more like a
political talking point, andcensorship starts looking like
crowd control, that's when youdon't just laugh or change the
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channel.
That's when you stop and think,because you don't need all the
answers.
But you should question the onesyou're handed.
Until next time, stay skeptical,stay curious, and always think
first.
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