Episode 142 Producers of Hawaii's the Battle of da Bulls

Get ready for an engaging episode as we dive deep into the world of dog shows, specifically focusing on the upcoming Battle of the Bullies at the Kroc Center on March 8! Our guests, experienced breeders and passionate dog lovers, shed light on what makes this event unique and vital for the local community. You'll learn about various bully breeds showcased in the competition, gain insights into responsible breeding practices, and discover the importance of education in shaping perceptions about these lovable dogs.

This episode emphasizes the heartwarming connection between families and dogs while encouraging more people to join the movement of responsible dog ownership and breeding. With insights on how the event promotes a family-friendly atmosphere, you’ll understand why this show is a must-attend for anyone curious about dogs, whether a prospective owner or a seasoned breeder. 

If you want to see exotic dogs, meet passionate individuals, and contribute to a strong community, mark your calendar and don't miss the Battle of the Bullies!

Episode Transcript

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Aloha, okay, this week on myshow I got three gentlemen here.
That is putting on on March 8th, the Battle of the Bullies at

(02:35):
the Kroc Center.
How you guys doing, bro.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Awesome, awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
If you guys can do me a favor, try to introduce
yourselves to the audience, andthen we start chopping it up.
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
I will ask Penny From TNC Canals, hawaii Raised some
French Bulldogs and some ShortyBulls.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Oh man, listen, I'm from Palliative Canals and some
shorty bulls, oh man Connor,from Palliative Cattle's, born
and raised in Wempo.
I raise exotics and Englishbulldogs.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Kaleo Teixeira Kaneohe, born and raised, and
Frenchies and bullies, whatever.
We just love dogs around here.
So you bring me two hours thisbook.
So I don't really love all dogs.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Right on.
Well, thank you guys for takingtime out of your evening to
come on my show.
I appreciate it.
The big project show you guysare putting on the battle of the
bullies going to be at the Kroccenter March 8th, can you guys
tell me a little bit about thisshow?
It seems like, from what I wasresearching, it's kind of a big

(03:52):
deal.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Yeah, so we got about 50 plus channels that have been
locked in already for the show.
So it's pretty much we're goingto have category shows.
We're going to have all typesof bully breeds, so English
exotics, bullies, big bulls,shorty bulls and all that and
then on top of that we're goingto have one extreme tournament

(04:16):
in between the category showsand that's going to have a
pretty big cash prize and a nicetrophy at the end for the
winner.
Oh man, it's going to for thewinner, oh man, pretty big show
man.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Pretty big cash prize .
He's talking about a couplethousand dollars, a couple
thousand.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, how do you win the show?
What is the criteria for thejudging?
They're not going to battleeach other for real, kind of
Come on bring it on the extremeside, because that's probably
going to be the easiest.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah, sorry, other, like for real kind of extreme
side cano, because that'sprobably be the easiest.
Yeah, so it'll be.
Yeah, it'll be like aconfirmation kind of show, but
it's not with someone sanctionedshow where, um, you get like
one big registrar, so it'spretty much like one.
Oh, why are you sure?
Okay, that's that we're goingto be just judging, like
conformation and the chest, thefront, the side.

(05:06):
They're going to be looking atthe dogs all the way around and
then choose the best that is fitto the standard of the breeder.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Okay, but they don't got to run through the obstacles
and all that kind of stuff.
Oh no, Nothing like that.
They're going to be stackingyeah yeah, stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Walking back and forth stacking the dog.
They're just going to belooking, yeah, yeah, and stuff
like that.
Walking back and forth stackingthe dog and the project,
somebody looking at the dog, andstuff like that and who judging
him um the confirmation show weget um Stacia O'Hara pretty one
, pretty um knowledgeable judge.
She go all over the world.
She's an AKC um handler too aswell, so she know she pretty

(05:42):
much getting all that knowledgeon how full of her dog I mean
what for look for I'm on dogyeah she's the number one
handler out here in akc.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
That's yeah and that's for like the, um, the,
the.
What is it?
What was the uh name of thatcontest?

Speaker 4 (06:01):
on the, on the category shows.
You mean yeah, yeah, yeah, soit's all different.
Um, like one breed category,like English Bulldogs will be
one category, exotic will be onecategory, and so forth, and so
on yeah, okay, how manycategories you said had um total
, we're gonna have 20, so we'regonna have one mixture of fun

(06:24):
categories and um breedcategories and breed categories,
and then we get the tournamentas well, the Extreme Tournament.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Okay, so when you do the tournament, how does that
one work?

Speaker 4 (06:36):
This one will be.
They will go one on one.
It will be like one loseelimination kind type tournament
, so it will go all the way toto the end, like they don't have
to battle each other to thelast dog standing.
Oh they go.
Bracket kind of a bracket kind.
Yeah, pretty much like MarchMadness, thanks yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
When pulls down, like one.
Like I said, two guys go up inthe ring and Two guys with their
dogs pulls down.
Their dogs difference differentfront angle, side angle, rear
angle and they're calling themstacking.
So we stack our dogs to thebest potential and see who comes
up, like how you said.
Then the judge picks the winnerand we go down to the next dog.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Oh, that's kind of cool.
Oh, it's a winner advance.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
So for sign-up, anybody can sign up, or they had
to like win couple stuff first,or Anybody can sign up as long
as their dog is extreme, whichis exaggerated features on one
breed type dog.
So they don't have to the dogwon't have to just be more.
The features will beexaggerated more than what the
standard is for that breed.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Oh, so like the dog got to be like yoked out yoked
yeah yoked all kind

Speaker 1 (07:48):
of nice, kai green is exaggerated features so he's an
extreme man, which is anextreme dog, like, and you see a
huge difference between like,how kono saying so.
What he's saying is like theconfirmation show.
You get the, you get thestandard of the dog.
Basically, you take all thedogs that enter that part and

(08:08):
you take the standard breed.
You say, okay, this is thestandard dog, how the dog's
supposed to look, and all thedogs get judged against that dog
and whoever comes out with theclosest to that dog is going to
be the winner.
It's all.
Just, you come out, you justflex and see who's got the
biggest, baddest bone muscle,head, legs, rear.

(08:30):
So you look at all of thosekind of stuff, you put them all
together and one dog will belike hey wait, that's not how
it's supposed to be.
Yeah, yeah, that's an extreme.
So that's what I'm hearing iswhat he's kind of going to be
looking for.
Is that Okay, that wow factor,that soul effect in the?

Speaker 2 (08:47):
dog yeah, oh he's only 5'7".

Speaker 1 (08:50):
But the bugger, he's 260, full of bone and muscle.
You know what?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
I mean, okay, now I kind of get the understanding.
Okay, brother, he's a dog, sohow you build him up for being
that big, like just working himout, are you giving them?
Like genetics okay, so you andthen you can play off that with
their nutrition and and andtheir workout regimen kind just

(09:17):
walk home, you know, exercisethem a little bit.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
You know, yeah, but when I first got into it, I used
to always tell people, wow,what you giving your dogs, what
you doing to your dogs?
And they used to tell megenetics.
And then one day I believed it.
It was genetics, just it justcame out, came out the way it
was bred.
You see muscles, some dogs nomore neck, some dogs get

(09:44):
shoulders, rear the rump.
Everything is just like wow,there's just a wow, wow factor
in a dog.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Kind of like horses, or like fighting chickens too,
once you got good blood.
Like horses no, but exactlylike horses.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
You take the.
I call them phenotypes.
You take the phenotype to whatyou like.
Put it this way Like I tell,tell everybody if I wanted one
volleyball player, I would havego marry one five foot eleven
woman.
You know me, I try to unlockthat phenotype, that I need to
find one nice solid foundationfor that, for that kind of like.
With the breeding, I try tounlock certain things in both
dogs to where you're like okay,like it's either the hump neck

(10:23):
is, is it a bone?
What am I looking for in thatdog?
I'm not going to put two dogswith two big heads together with
no chest.
They don't have on big headedpuppies with no, with no, no
spread like that.
So as long as you stack in yourdogs and and I believe in line
breeding, line breeding is on,is on big thing I'm putting the
right, the right dogs together.
But again, at the end of the dayit's whoo and get lucky.

(10:46):
You know what I mean.
We all get lucky.
It's consistency.
We try to look for is if allthe whole litter looks the same,
then we know we're on the nextlevel, we know we made it to
that level.
If we get seven lookingdifferent dogs and seven puppies
, then to me I'm kind of far off.
You know what I mean.
I need to work towards what Ineed to work towards.

(11:06):
We all look at them different.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
You guys all Tria's professional breeders.
You guys have your own kennel.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Professional.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
I don't know about professional but, we have our
own kennel Ethical and trying todo them the right way and being
out in the crowd and speakingabout it, yes, but when, when it
comes with when you're outthere doing your thing, you know
what I mean.
You get that.
You get that other side of it.
So I'm professional as best aswe can be.
Yeah, present ourselves acertain way.

(11:37):
You know, profession is onlypresenting yourself and
presenting the product in acertain way too.
So I'm pretty sure we allprofessional in that, in that
realm.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
um, I always try to be professional or at least play
it, play it, play it off thatway.
Yeah, bro, I seen like when youguys are breeding it's kind of
more scientific than justputting two dogs together.
I seen you had like shit that Iuse at work for my medical

(12:06):
company.
Um, you have centrifuges.
You guys do like hormone, kindof knowing the dog on.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, it's called progesterone, yeah, yeah,
progesterone testing.
Um, they basically draw theblood.
We find the ovulation um, wejust find that um, find the
ovulation numbers and, like mine, I have a number, I have a
machine that finds those numbersfor me.
Um, so basically we try to findthose numbers and um, because
everything is ai now we don't doa lot of, there's rarely

(12:36):
there's um live readings,meaning um male on female, um
actually having a um reading.
There's a lot of lot to do with,believe it or not, there's a
lot of um stds out there in thedog world too.
So not only that, yeah, yeah,not only that, um, it's just not
as it's.
The dogs are not the same,built so, like the old school 45

(12:58):
pound pit bulls can jump oneach other and mount a lot.
These dogs are built a littlebit more front heavy so they get
a little more tired.
So a lot of them cannot mount.
You know what I mean.
So when he's talking aboutextreme, the extreme dogs, they
cannot mount um.
And again, when you mount it,it's a locking mechanism and
their arms so short, like I'llshow you a couple of my dogs, my

(13:18):
arms so short, they can't evenlock around.
They jump on her, they fallright off.
So it's kind of like it's acircus act.
So we gotta we're.
We're the um, the liaison forthat, we're the ones with ais,
so I do the ai, and then we alsodo ultrasounds.
We do all kind of reproductionservices oh, wow, that's super
cool, that, bro.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
That's that's science .
That's science at its best, youknow.
I mean like, yeah, oh, so you.
So you guys can figure out frombreeding to start producing
dogs a certain look, a certainway you want it to be.
And once you get like thatchampion, then you can kind of
use that bloodline, just likechickens or like, like you said,
on horse, to sell to otherpeople or to develop dogs

(14:01):
through that litter.
You could use him as a stud.
Huh, no.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah.
There's a big market forstudying.
So like where now you can sendsemen, like I can take my, like
I've sent semen mainland you cansend semen.
I brought in semen from UK, sowe bring in nitrogen or like dry
ice Well yeah, well, just ice.
So what we do is there's anactual thing called extender and

(14:27):
you can extend.
The semen actually extends itup to 10 days.
So, um, it's basically onbyproduct of it, it's protein.
You put it in, you put it inwith the semen, you mix them in,
you put them in one box.
I got a box around heresomewhere.
I mean, put them in a box, in alittle styrofoam box with ice
pack, send them off, and that'sa.
My friend then just brought onein for $8,000.
So I said $8,000 box, is thisbig bro?

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
It's a dog urn inside .

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, I just did a reading today.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
I've got it in, yeah, so they bought the box for
$8,000.
It came with 10 cc's in there,so two tubes of 5cc each and we
inseminate the girl.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
So we did one yesterday and then one today,
and how guaranteed a ting gone.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Work, though, like you, get refund if the ting not
catch in this dog business, I, Ilike to tell people nothing,
even in life.
Nothing is guaranteed, nothingis guaranteed.
I stick with life.
Nothing is guaranteed.
Yeah, nothing is guaranteed.
I, I, I, I stick with that.
Nothing is guaranteed.

(15:29):
We would like it to work, butnothing is guaranteed yeah, yeah
, that's true.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
The best thing you can do is create the best odds
for it to work.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
You know what I mean yes, yes, especially when we
facilitating the whole, thewhole thing.
You know, I mean before we usedto breed, back in the day you
put them in the kennel 9, 11, 13days usually is right around
there.
You put them in nine days oh,she's not reacting, she's not
flagging.
You take them back out.
11 day, oh she's flagging.
You put, leave them in.
You, man, hope for the best, uhmama takes care of puppies, but

(16:01):
now it's we whelping, so there'sa not only you're help
facilitating the breed.
Um, the only thing us guysdon't do is basically don't take
the puppies out, becauseeverything is c-section.
So, yeah, because again, a lotof these dogs.
Now what we're trying to do iswe're trying to get the heads
very extreme, and when you havean extreme head you don't have

(16:22):
an extreme canal.
The thing you cannot change is,is the reproductive part of any
dog right?
You can change the features,but you can't change that.
So a lot of them getC-sectioned.
For the pups and for mama it'sto me a little bit more better
off for them in the long run.
But with that we got to takecare of the puppies a little bit

(16:42):
more, because these puppies aresmaller with bigger heads, less
mobility at the first week ortwo.
So we are the facilitators.
Like Tenny is Frenchies is alittle bit different.
Me and Tenny, we're well up ourown Frenchies, so it's a whole
other animal.
Every two hours you're feedingthem up.
Every two hours feeding.
You don't get sleep for likethe first at four weeks you

(17:08):
probably get a couple hourssleep on top of that, but other
than that we're up all day,every day.
So that's why the prices becomea little bit at where they at.
You know, I mean it's becausenot only what we put into it but
the um amount of time andeffort that we do, oh, yeah,
time is money bro.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
They look tired today bruh that's you probably
freaking.
Take care of dogs.
If you guys do that for thosedogs, like how, how long does it
take for the puppies to be ableto develop enough where they
can be given or sold to anotherhome or away from the mom and

(17:49):
you guys?

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Six to eight weeks oh okay, so you're running litters
.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
for how many times a year?

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Depends on how much females you get and how much
time they're gonna need, youknow.
So all depends on what, if youlike breed or not, you know,
yeah, right yeah, it all dependson who and what you know.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
All of that, like right now I'm I got, I've made
some, some dogs to where I justwait a little bit, I get about
one more year to where Iprobably gonna start putting the
my new generation dogs into themix.
So so, like, like, um, it alldepends where you at what you're
trying to do.
Um, right now the market is isnot the same, and not only in a
market, but, um, there's a lotof saturation out there with

(18:38):
different dogs.
So, um, but, 2025 should be onturnaround, where it's going to
be a lot better.
The dog show is coming back.
A lot of beach parks is openingup for dogs.
They're going to open up bars,restaurants, 2025.
So it's going to be a differentyear.
Ala Moana Beach Park is goingto open up to dogs.
They just opened up one new dogpark in Kaneohe, one huge one

(19:00):
down by Pohala School.
So it's a year of the dog.
It's a year of the dog.
Maybe it's the year of thesnake or the crocodile, I don't
know what it is for the chineseside, but for for hawaii, it's
going to be the year of the dog.
Um, all these high rises goingup in makiki and all these
people with dogs, they're goingto have to help.
Yeah, where you gotta go, allthese places you cannot take

(19:20):
dogs.
So it's.
You try to do that with kakaakoand hopefully it changes with
waikiki now oh, that's supergood.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
I know plenty people using that.
Um, it's like saying thatthat's one.
One support animals to get them, like, bypass all those
loopholes.
But I didn't realize youcouldn't take dogs to alamana.
Now that I think of it, yeah, Inever see dogs there.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, yeah, and that was a big one when they was
talking about changing thatwhere Ala Moana Beach Party.
That's a big one Because, again, nine out of 10 people that go
to Ala Moana get one dog.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, guaranteed, and they gotto leave them at home, which
sucks.
Yeah, but the hard part is withthese little terriers Terriers
out there, you know what I mean,and these Mercedes cars they're

(20:04):
going to be, they're going toget into some little action so
hopefully they can keep it onthe wraps.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
But no, it should be on good year in 2025 for dogs.
So you guys treat all breed thesame kind dogs, or?

Speaker 4 (20:20):
different kind, All different, different breeds, but
the same breed.
I mean same booty breed, butdifferent types of those.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
So, right now the Frenchies is kind of the most
popular, huh yeah no, well, theFrenchies are popular because
they've been popular.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
But what's been happening is there's an
evolution of Frenchies.
There's four or five differenttype of Frenchies.
Now that's becoming so.
They had the regular Frenchie,then they came out with a fluffy
Frenchie, then now they getlike hairless Frenchies, they
get big rope Frenchies, theyhave coy Frenchies.
So they're coming out with allthese different variations of

(21:02):
Frenchies.
So that's kind of what's notkeeping it.
I don't know if it's keeping itpopular or messing it up in so
many ways.
So it's keeping it.
I guess the talks of people'stongues, but it's going in
different directions, kind of inan exotic way.
They call it exotics, but it'sgoing in different directions,
that's all.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
That's kind of cool and what the those, those dogs
like you guys all have paperworkfor it, like you guys have to
be certified or or stuff likethat yeah, those dogs are paper
yeah yeah, you don't have to,but it's, it's more how should I

(21:44):
say makes the dog more valuableas having the people right
people to the right dog.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, plus can show lineage too, huh yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
It's like having a title to a car, kind of.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
I mean, you can have the registration, but the title
is just a little bit more oflike it's where the dog come
from like on dog facts that'swhy these shows that Kanoa
putting on and stuff it's goodfor people to come to the shows

(22:26):
and look at the dogs on whatthey want or have an idea of
what they want.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
And that's why the shows is like I say.
It plays a big part.
If you're looking for a dog,come to the show, not just go to
a pet store and look at this.
Every puppy looks cute in awindow.
You know what I mean.
You can see the different ages,the different sizes, the
different types.
We even at Battle of the Boos,we Kanoa and I we stress kids,

(23:05):
kids to come into the ring withthe dog.
If you get a new family lookingfor a dog for your kid, you're
going to see the junior handlerswhich we call them looking at
this one dog, be like wow, lookat that.
Oh, I want that dog for my kid,or I want that dog for my kid,

(23:27):
or maybe we should get this dogfor our house.
You know what I mean.
Like that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
That's why this show is kind of important for all
these dog breeders and doglovers oh, that's super cool and
during the show, like you guysgonna have a lot of people who
have kennels set up around, kindof showcasing their like
litters or or their, their dogsthat they have, that they're
trying to sell or breed, or showwhat kind of dogs that they

(23:56):
have yeah, um, not every showallow you to do that, but kanoa
um, as the hothead productionsand battle of the boos, he
allows it.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
He allows that to happen for the people.
Kanoa's battle of the booze isfor the people, so he allows
that.
I'm not saying any other showdon't allow it or not for the
people, but that's what kanoawants to do for the people is to
let them advertise what theygot, show what they got.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
You know oh, that's super cool only because other
like, um, like, this show ismore like on I don't say a fun
show, but it's more like on theexpo where people can show off
their stuff, because in likesanctioned shows, you're more
concentrating on competition,right, so you know you don't
really mingle with other people,but this show at least you can,
you know, relax a little bit,talk to your peers, market or

(24:53):
not market, but interact withpeople and get connections.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
You said it's something that's a good place
for all.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
You guys that do this can network and throw ideas at
each other.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, it's exactly what it's like.
Like he's saying what they'rekind of saying is when you go to
one other show they'resanctioned by uh uh, like say
akc, akc is the biggest, so sayyou're going to one, say canola,
say okay, this is gonna be asanctioned show.
That means he has akc coming inand akc basically dictating who
the dogs, the judging and allof that, how the dogs get judged

(25:28):
and all of that, where this,this one, it's kind of under his
regime and kind of his judges.
So it's like he said, a littlemore laid back.
It's not like he gets a couplepink job.
Pink job meaning the color ofthe dog.
You can get rewarded for that.
So there's much more laid back,rewards and family-oriented.
We get junior handlers going toring, we encourage the kids

(25:52):
going in there.
Like you say, showcase the dog.
Um, but like 10, you will say Iwant to touch a little bit on
what 10 you were saying um, youknow what's happening right now.
There's a lot of people justbuying dogs right off the
internet oh, cute dog.
And they don't understand behindthat dog there's somebody
that's handling that dog andthat there's a lot of mishandled

(26:12):
dogs out there and now a lot ofthese dogs becoming, um,
shelter dogs is because they'retreating them like they, kind of
what came from the shelter aspuppies.
You know, if you don't treatthe dogs right in the first
eight weeks of their life,that's the most, that's the most
crucial time and a lot of, alot of times these dogs are not
being treated well.
So you come to the shows, yousee how they're being treated in

(26:34):
in the ring, see that I've beenwith us, see that with us, and
then you can see the differences.
I think, with all of that umbut yeah, it's wonderful, touch
on that because that's to methat's big even going to the, to
the pet shops the pet shops, alot of them just taking in the
dogs don't even know where thedog's coming from um, and I

(26:55):
think that's where a lot of theissues come from right.
If you buy a dog from me, you'rewith me for life, I you with me
for life.
Any issue or anytime, getsomething with the dog.
You give me a call, um I'll gofacilitate whatever needs to be
facilitated oh, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
I didn't even think of that.
You're right, because if youractual kennels and people that
are there handling the dogs asbabies and stuff that puts a
face to the dog, people can talkto you.
Brad, that sounds like a goodsituation.
It seems like it's kind of afamily kind of thing, right.

(27:30):
It seems like a show for youbringing your families and all
that, oh yeah, big time.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yeah, we encourage that, yeah, Let me know.
Yeah, All these dogs, I meanyou get family, you get little
kids like you know.
Call them pet dogs and stufflike that.
So yeah, we encourage everybodyto call them, especially the
kids.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Under my tent you get me, my five daughters and my
wife.
That's what's under my tent.
So, tandy, the same thing, him,his wife and his daughters, and
then his team, but that's 100%.
What it's all about is Ohana,ohana, ohana.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Oh, that's, super cool.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yeah, that's right, like I was saying, that's what
Kanoa with his shows.
He goes strong with Family, funfor the kids and a great time.
We even get food vendors,snacks, come out, enjoy, enjoy,

(28:28):
you know, and and and and.
Just just have a great time.
No more, no more, no more, nomore, no more, no more, no more,
no more, no more, no more, nomore, no more, no more, no more,
no more, no more, no more, nomore, no more, no more, no more,
no more, no more, no more, nomore, no more, no more, no more,
no more, no more, no more, nomore, no shame Say.
How's it my name?
My name, rob?
Hey, how's it my name?

(28:49):
Kaleo?
You know, like that.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Just like that.
But, they're the part of thefamily.
So they're the part of thefamily, right.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Just tense up, enjoying ourselves.
You guys notice, like plenty ofpeople that are in the market
for dogs come to this, or peoplewho already have the dogs, both
bro People that are new, like,yeah, plenty of people, even
from like the public, like that.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
When they come out, sometimes they just, you know,
they just see the ad, they justcome out to see dogs right, they
don't know nothing about thebreed.
But when they come see the showand they get to actually mingle
and interact with the dogs,that's when you know they change
their minds about the bullybreed.
That's part of the reason whywe get these shows too, because
we get plenty of stereotypesabout the dogs.
They think they're pit bullsand they're rough and all that

(29:37):
kind of stuff.
But when you come and you seethe dogs in action, mingling
with everybody, they can getalong in the ring.
You get a better perspective onhow the breed is put together.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Oh, that makes sense.
How did you come up with thisconcept and when did you start
putting on shows like this?

Speaker 4 (29:58):
The shows was.
I mean, I had shows before weeven started putting on shows,
so it's just one piggyback onthat.
But most of the shows that wehad in Hawaii was sanctioned
shows like ABKC, usbr orwhatever you know IBKC.
So we just kind of went withjust one little one fun.
We actually we started off withone barbecue, like in a park or

(30:20):
something you know.
It's all free, everybody justcome out and we just have small
kind of sack offs, yeah, and iteventually turned into like one,
you know, an actual show.
That's pretty much how, and wejust ran with it after that
because we've seen so muchpeople come out.
The turnout was good, wasalways positive, right, and they
get people like Kaleo andbrother Teni, always supporting,

(30:41):
always helping me out,everything from the beginning.
So with all these brothersyou're putting a lot of people
involved as well.
Brother Alan, um, kaleo I meanum, um, what do you call that?
Travis, and brother ola fromfrom maui.
They're all helping with theshow behind the scenes.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
So it's just bottles like that.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
That's what keep.
Keep the show going.
It's not me.
It's not me at all.
You know what I mean?
I just, I just don't freakingvehicle that driving oh, I just
a driver somebody got a driveryeah, everybody else is
supporting the car, bro, thecars.
So without, without brotherslike that, your show wouldn't be
possible.
Yeah, that's cool solid teamalways bro.

(31:23):
Yeah, because without them noway, no way we can pull this off
takes a lot more for this kindof stuff too oh yeah, bro, just
from hearing you guys talk, noway, no way we can pull this off
.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Takes a lot for this kind of stuff too.
Oh yeah, bro, just from hearingyou guys talk about it, it
seemed like on something big bro, like on project.
When did you do the first one?
Like the?

Speaker 4 (31:41):
first actual Our first actual show was in 2023.
Was at the Tech Park Center,yeah, and was on hit.
We had two people, so we had tojust tell ourselves that we got
to keep running this out herewe fill up the, we fill up the
whole parking lot and the inside.
Yeah so we kind of have tochange our plans of the um the

(32:02):
layout yeah, yeah a couplethousand people would run to
that place that night.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
I guarantee you that, because I was right in the
front.
You know I got everybody else,so it was a good night.
Brad, it's a very good night.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
We're getting different vibes.
Oh, that's super cool, brad.
How do you get sponsorship,like if somebody wanted to be a
sponsor and stuff?

Speaker 4 (32:22):
We'll just advertise it.
I'll just advertise it on my IG.
And the amount of people thatlike sponsors is pretty crazy,
bro, because I mean it is, andleft and right, we take all
kinds of sponsorships.
Probably sponsorships the mainsponsors, you know.
They like donate, get like, forexample, like Pet Depot and
stuff like that 604, all thoseguys all donating stuff, you

(32:45):
know, tents or doll, food orgift certificates, whatever it
is, bro, we take whatever andeverything goes to the show, bro
.
So whatever money I make, I tryto, you know, put it to the
show, even for the sponsors, tryto advertise them with like
social media, like influencersor whatever.
Like we just made one videowith Jess Coppano, with Jess,

(33:06):
yeah, so yeah, with Jess yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
So yeah, I know I was a guru, but Jess, I am.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Yeah, I was a guru, jess, I am, yeah, so it's pura.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Oh, that's cool, and are you?

Speaker 1 (33:16):
like.
I like being the front row, soI always sponsor because I don't
like being the back speaking ofyour sponsor.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
What company, using a sponsor, the show with?

Speaker 4 (33:29):
we get plenty sponsors, so we get Kennell
sponsors.
This is High Block Bullies,five Old Bulls.
We got KRK Trucking BrotherKhalil Colorful.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Frenchies.
It seems like there's a lot ofpeople that are super down to
support this thing and I think,from what you guys are
explaining to me, the familyvibe is probably the biggest
draw, because brah people liketake their family to do stuff
and get them off their ipads andget them away from television

(33:59):
and stuff like that and, likeyou guys were explaining earlier
, everybody loves dogs.
How many people have dogs?
It's, um, it's, it's a culturethat no one ever tries to unite
as much and put a family vibe toit and fuck, I mean, they do it
for portage horseshoes, brother, big fucking party like why?

(34:20):
not do it yeah, why not do itwith something that all people
care and love about?
That's actual members of yourfamily.
A lot of people think theirdogs is part of their family.
And brad, that's such a superawesome way to bring everybody
together.
Brad, that's super innovative.
That's adam.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
I'm surprised nobody thought of doing it that big
before well, it's differentperspective hearing the frame
from the outside, from you.
So it's that's the way I feelinside.
But you know, I try to explainthat every day but it's hard
because everybody like, oh, thisguy's talking about dogs again.
You know I mean it's like ohhe's talking about dogs again.
It's like I, it's kind of likethat guy that your friend that

(35:00):
went to a divorce.
Every time you see him, oh,this guy, he would talk about
dogs again.
So everywhere I go, like andI'm not trying to sell them, you
know, I, I mean, I'm number oneis like what's your feeding
your dogs?
How you?
They're like whoa, why, why,why.
And again, there's, there's somuch knowledge that, like you
saying that, not tapped into umyeah, but people like oh, it's
my dog, yeah, he barks, no so.

(35:21):
But nowadays, these, theseexotics or these, um, what do
you call them these?
Um, yeah, I guess designer dogs, it's.
It's, it's made for a reason,kind of right, nowadays you
breed them for a reason.
We play with the temperament alot with these dogs because of
the terrier, like the old schoolpit bull.
So basically the bullies camefrom and people can say I'm

(35:44):
wrong or I'm right, I don't know.
But they took the pit bull tothe English bulldog, kind of got
the thicker bone, but what itdid with all of that, it made
the temperament a lot different.
But with the temperament comeswith a little bit of the bulldog
issues and all that.
So they took them to a Frenchieand they took them to some
other dogs.
But what they're doing isthey're playing with different

(36:06):
breeds and kind of making themto like I said a designer dog
that fits like Tenny was talkingabout.
They're playing with differentbreeds and kind of making them
to like I said a designer dogthat fits like 10.
He was talking about fits, thefamily.
So you get all these shortybulls, now that's.
You look at the dog.
Oh, that's an English bulldog,like nope.
Then you look at them.
If you're a dog man, you lookat them like, okay, there's
probably like two or three dogswithin that.
The dog is calm, the dog cansit with you, the dog is not

(36:29):
going to be hyper running aroundlike on Jack Russell Terry,
running around your house andacting like that.
So the designer dogs I guess ismore of the exotic dogs
nowadays, where it's made to fita certain person.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Okay, and this show is going to showcase all the
different kinds, then All thedifferent types of breeds within
the woody breed, bro yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
And everybody get their own vision of what that is
right.
I get one right here.
Miss Piggy is my rendition ofwhat I think is a Frenchie.
But some people will say, oh,she's not because of this and
that.
But again, this is my renditionof what I think is what I'm
looking for in my vision,Because it's a vision.
It's like fixing cars right weall can get one brand new Camaro

(37:20):
and us three can go build ourCamaro.
We're all going to bring backone different Camaro, yeah.
It's because our vision isdifferent.
One's going to have a differentstance.
One's going.
Our vision is different.
One would have a differentstance.
One's going to be have adifferent motor.
One's going to have a betterpaint job.
So it's all about what you'relooking for, but at the end of
the day, make sure that thebuilder of that car or of that
dog is doing them right andbreeding for the right things

(37:44):
and not just putting the wronghood on the wrong car.
You know what I mean'm callingthem one one, one, one classic.
That's not the way it works.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Like you said earlier , it's a lot of scientific stuff
going through it that's cooland like with this show, how you
guys said individuals canactually talk to the people like
you guys who breed them, gettheir backstory, kind of learn
how they're taking care of them,how they came up with the
concept of the dogs that they'rebreeding and fuck that's.

(38:14):
That's to me is, like you said,is way better than buying one
dog from a pet store or at thepuppy swap meet or whatever.
It's like you know, now youputting some some kind of
tangible lineage with the ownersas well as the dogs.
That's kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Right, exactly, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
And you can see the different types of dogs like at
different levels.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Somebody can say they getbullied, but if you see somebody
who is bullied, you knowdifferent, from the pet shop
bully to a breeder bully.
So you can see the difference.
You can see different types ofdogs to unbreed or bully.
You're going to see thedifference.
You're going to see differenttypes of dogs.
From there you can pick whatyou like.
You're going to see them inaction live.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Everybody thinks they're pokey.
I can make my puppy look thebest puppy, but once they grow
up it's like hey, I thought Iwas getting this.
That's where it comes back towhen you got that dog from.
I can tell you where you gotthe dogs we got it from.
Oh yeah, how do you know?
It's because nobody would havestood behind that dog and say
this is what it is.
I'm standing behind my dog.
I'm like that would turn out tobe like this you can come to my

(39:19):
yard and see, supposedly, howit's going to turn out.
Like grandma, I get grandma, Iget great grandmas in my yard
over here.
That and I get great grandkidsin my yard.
That kind of you can see theresemblance and so how much dogs
you get bro.
Um, if you ask my wife too much,but um, I get the state limit.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Oh, I didn't even know, I had limits.
No, I get, I get.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
I get the better of 10 dogs Um okay, okay.
But yeah, it's, and it's as youknow.
It's like having 10 kids.
It's a task every day.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Oh, yeah, yeah, oh.
10 kids I couldn't handle bro,that's nuts, yeah, bro.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
I get five daughters already, so what's in 10 dogs?

Speaker 2 (40:02):
I know it, bro.
I know why you get daughterstoo, bro.
Just like me, I only getdaughters, only your daughter.
Yeah, I know I do, bruh.
This show is kind of set forfamilies.
What kind of entertainment youguys have is just kind of the
dogs doing their thing.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
That's what everybody's there to see yeah,
pretty much just a dog, becauseI mean pretty much they're going
to be running all the time.
So we took different categories, so we're going to have breaks
here and there, but mainly it'sabout the dogs, bro, everybody's
just we're watching the dogs dotheir thing and that's.
That's pretty muchentertainment.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Because if we get into yeah, I mean if we get
other entertainment, not gonnahave time bro yeah, yeah, I'm
gonna take take away from what,yeah every 15 minutes.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
There's something going on every 15 minutes
getting called into the ring.
So basically, what happens isif I go in the ring right now, I
can come out the ring and I'mover here listening to waiting
for the next category, like Kanosaid.
But we set up, boom, it happensand we're breaking down.
So it's a good time, but it's ifyou want to participate in the

(41:08):
ring, which we encourage becausewe want you to go in the ring.
But some guys sit back and justwatch it, which is a good way
to do it.
If you're in the crowd, you cankind of sit back and watch a
good five hours of straightdifferent dogs coming in the
ring, and then it's narroweddown to the best in the show.
So, like Alcon was saying,there's a best female for every
category, there's a best male inevery category and then there's

(41:32):
a best in breed.
So they'll go male, female andthen they'll put the male and
female against each other andthen that male or female goes
against all the other breeds,that top of that breed for the
best in show.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, so it narrows down to one of the best dogs of
all.
Basically, so you can walk awaywith the best dog saying the
best in show dog, which is theprestigious prize of the bunch.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
So who won them last time?

Speaker 4 (42:00):
Our first winner was Mike with Pet Ross Cattles.
He won with one exotic bulldog.
I mean not bulldog, but exoticbully.
Oh, wow, yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
What a day only want exotic um, I mean not exotic
bully.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
Oh wow, yeah, what is my short feet?

Speaker 2 (42:14):
what I hope.
They seems like a lot of shitgoing on.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
What who's hosting like who's on the mic, kind of
right now about 10 years arethere oh, so you don't want
running the whole circus, thenjust just hey, just MC, just
wing it, just go, just have fun,just enjoy that day, man, it'll
be crazy so you're going tocreate the vibe, you're going to

(42:39):
create the experience andyou're going to be the one
wrangling all this going on.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Man.
He beat him the first show, sowe'll stick with him, brother
well, you get nervous or what,or it's kind of easy it ain't
easy.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
But again, this is just, uh, um, I look at it, is
there's no right, no wrong.
This is fun.
Yeah, if somebody getssomething for, say, hey, come
grab the mic, you know, yeah,what I mean.
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's all Just, that's how I.
So that's how I look at it.
To to, to get myself going andlike, hey, just do it, have fun.

(43:18):
You know what I mean.
Let's go Just call, just callthe dogs up, joke with the
people.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Hey, don't be modest.
But this guy gigs all the time,Don't even familiar.
He gigs all the time with hisfamily, bro, oh no, Sorry, Teddy
bro, Sorry Teddy, hey, bro itjust happened in Vegas.
Yeah, get your own phone Forreal, hey.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
For real, for real.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
You should wear a polaca shirt.
Play them off.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
I was in Vegas.
We just came back and had thisauntie and uncle next to me, Old
, I mean, they got to be in the80s.
I hear the uncle whisper to thewife hey, the guy look familiar
.
She didn't even look at me.
She said yeah, that's Kelly boy.
She look at me.
Yeah, you, Kelly boy.
Yeah, I go, oh.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
See, yeah, really bro .
My mother said yeah, what youneed, uncle, what you need bro.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Probably make their day too, and they're going to
tell all the fans.
Oh yeah, I see Kelly Boy on theplane.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
What is with that?
I'm not even talking to you,baby bro.
That's so funny.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Would be Khalil for bringing that up.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
That's funny bro.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
So how long is the show?
It seems like it's going totake a long time.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
We found 5 to 10.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Oh, at night, At night, so you have lights and
everything over there.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
We try to keep it at night time Because it's cooler
for the dog.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Oh, that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
And the handlers, because the handlers got to
stand up, bend down, stand up,bend down, oh yeah, it's a whole
action.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
How do you guys make the ring bro?

Speaker 3 (45:20):
We rent barriers oh okay, the metal.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
So I'm big.
What is that about?
Probably 50 by 50.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
I don't know what size they're doing, but pretty
good size one that's where allour all, our all our sponsors
come in and stuff oh, that'ssuper cool.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
That's um, wow, it seems like you guys have a lot
of support, brah, and yeah, itseems.
It seems like the uhcommunities that that's involved
is all about it down with youguys I'm gonna share.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
I'm gonna share one story with you guys about, uh,
on this um with one bully that Iwas walking at the pet expo.
I had this nice bully, thething looked super mean.
So everybody, walk around me,walk around me, walk around me.
And I tell him come, auntie,pet my dog, come pet my dog.

(46:24):
No, I scared, no, I scared.
By the end of the day we wereready for leave.
This elderly auntie and unclewanted one dog for them from
being scared and we always sayeducate yourself before you know

(46:44):
.
Being afraid or thinking bad ofthe dog yeah, or thinking bad
of the dog yeah, because they'reonly going to show what the bad
do, but they don't know thegood the dog do.
And that's what we try to showpeople at the shows.
Like Kaleo, he always have hisdogs on the table just playing

(47:12):
people petting the dogs and whatnot.
So it's one thing good aboutthis show that the shows is we
can try and help educate thepeople About these breeds that
coming out.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Oh, that's super cool .
I mean, like you guys said,some of the pitbulls got a bad
rep or whatever.
It kind of takes away.
That's that the way people lookat them.
And, like you said, educationis important and that's kind of
goes with everything in life,bro.
Like people are afraid of whatthey don't know, so it's like

(47:49):
fuck, if you know, then youdon't need to be afraid anymore
and we're different.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Growing up with the people, we was different as kids
.
We we was a little bit more onthat, on that rougher side, yeah
a little raw so we could kindof handle these dogs like how,
supposed to?
Now it's not the same.
There's a lot more of us, youknow what I mean.
A lot more people, and whenthere's more people they're more
crowded, and when you do that,not everybody can handle the

(48:17):
same dogs.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Yeah.
Well this younger generation,in my opinion, is a little
softer too.
I don't think they could handlethe dogs that you had when you
were kids.
You know what I mean.
Those dogs was more rough, justlike.
Just like how people was morerough back then, you know I mean
exactly, exactly cracks forthese reps, yeah, but shoot.

(48:43):
The way you guys are educatingand bringing families together
is what's the most impressive tome personally.
Like people, the can win andall that and you have some
champions.
But for families to take partin that and get to know and
educate it on, brad, that's onlygoing to build that community

(49:03):
bigger Because it's going to.
You guys seem like you guys aregrowing every year.
Huh, it's getting bigger.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
It's getting bigger.
It's getting bigger again.
What would hurt the bullycommunity was the COVID.
It had COVID because parks wereshut down, halls were shut down
, you know everything.
You couldn't have more than 10in one gathering, more than 10
in one gathering.
So now that we get to do theseshows, it's getting there again.

(49:36):
We got to rebuild everything.
I'm going to use Kaleo as anexample, with his pet, his food,
his raw food business.
If we never open up how we areopening up now, it would be hard
, I think, for something likethat.
So, with these shows and he'scoming to advertise, it's going

(49:59):
to be really awesome forsomebody like him yeah, well,
yeah, I wanted to ask you aboutthat.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Like your raw food, like how does that's your
company now?
How does that work?
Because it just makes a lotmore sense to me with what
you're doing just feeding youranimals than buying those big
things of like, well, you don'teven know what's in it, it's
mostly fillers, and that justlike humans, right, you cannot
just feed yourself any kind ofcrap and think you can get good

(50:28):
results right, right.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
So for me, I was feeding raw for a long time and
I used to buy them from thestores or get them from farms,
um, but again, even the store isnot making the, the food is not
the same.
So I found that my dog wasn'tdoing well on the store bought
foods, um, raw chicken or beef,um.
Then I went to some of thefarms out here, but some of them

(50:51):
couldn't sustain.
I was trying to look for a bigmarket, so I went around and I
found this guy in louisiana.
He's another breeder, um, andthis is what he does he gets
farm to the table, basicallymeat, um, and it's a blend that
has organs.
You got bone in there.
So it's a, it's a nutrientblend that is basically if, if,

(51:13):
kind of like we would be eatingfruits and the nutrients that we
need.
That's basically what they needin that chub um to help with
their, with.
I mean, get from tripe in thereto to fish, to bone and all
that has.
You know, omega, omega trees.
You get, um, you get calciumthat the dogs need.
So you get all these stuff thatdogs need to be balanced.

(51:34):
That we never looked into.
We just fed them, but now we'rekind of balancing them out and
learning the science behind itof what an actual dog needs.
A dog needs fat, fiber andprotein three things they need
for their diet to strive in.
What I always portray is whatyou feed them now is going to be

(51:56):
longevity in the long run.
So when your dog is older andyou're taking them to the vet
and having all these problems,it's like, oh, my dog is young.
Yeah, when you're a 10-year-oldkid, he's going to have the
common cold.
He can eat hamburgers all day.
He's not going gonna feel thosehamburgers until he becomes 40,
50 years old.
That's when the hamburger thathe ate at 10, 15 years old every
day comes into play.

(52:16):
So that's kind of what thewhole how I try to portray
what's happening in the world.
Um, your dog's getting a lotolder, a lot quicker and, yeah,
I'm dying a lot faster andhaving a lot of more issues
because of the food.
No nutrition, nutrition value.
There's no nutritional value.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
And it goes the same way with humans.
So if you eat McDonald's everysingle day, then bruh as you get
to be our age you're going tobe detrimental.
I got to ask you so what?
You cook the raw food and feedthem to your dogs?

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Nope, Once you cook the stuff.
So, like us, we're not supposedto eat raw, but a lot of the
nutrients gets lost when youcook them.
All that gets gets burnt offand lost in the in the it's.
When you say you're going fryhamburger, right, all that,
right, there's a lot ofnutrients leaving the leaving.
So we're gonna get some of thenutrients in there.
So no straight raw.
Um, the raw is, it's good andthey don't.

(53:09):
They're, they cannot get somesalmonella and all that.
So their, their, their bodiesare very, very immune to a lot
of the issues when it comesalong with that.
Um, you're getting to tell youget a little bit higher bacteria
, but we all get back here.
If you eat hamburger, we allget about two pounds of
hamburger on our colon, unlessyou're, you're really flushing
out your system with fiber.
So what I do is with that.

(53:30):
I feed them fiber.
I there's a.
I feed my dogs once a day.
A lot of people feed them twice.
So I do a lot of differentthings.
I fast my dogs, so a lot ofdifferent things that I do.
That, um, try to help them.
Gut health is number one, andnumber one to me is you got to
get all that stuff out beforeyou replenish the stomach.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
So how did you learn all this stuff?

Speaker 1 (53:53):
first was trial by fire, learned by experience.
Like I said, I get one dog outthere, 15 by 14, 14 and a half
right now.
She'd be eating raw from thebeginning.
Um, like I said, I used toprepare myself, so just learning
and growing from it andlearning what, what's in the
food, how the food reacts to thedog, what, what makes the food,
um, what the dogs need and isreading books.
My wife is a librarian so Ijust read a lot of books and try

(54:16):
to figure out what's what'sbest oh, that's super cool, and
then internet probably helps too, uh well now nowadays, the
internet, yeah, but I'm apicture guy, so the books give
me a lot of pictures.
I mean, the books will get youstraight to the, to the like.
Rabbit is a huge, big, big,good form of fiber and people
don't understand the fur of therabbit.
It's not even the rabbit itselfis the fur that will give them

(54:37):
the fiber.
So all that kind of stuff, andthey need that stuff.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
So very good, um, good fiber, um source, yeah, so
oh that's super cool and that'syour company, that you're you
have now and your sponsor.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
You're one of the main sponsors of the show so I'm
the main, one of the mainsponsors for calico fritchies,
my breeding program.
But then I I'm a prize sponsorfor the.
I feed raw.
Um, I will provide um somechubs to each winner, um some
raw food each winner, and thenthe best, the biggest winner, I
will provide about 10 pounds tothem.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Oh wow.
So you win this thing.
It's kind of prestigious andyou're going to scoop some cool
stuff.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Well, to me the prestigious is two things right,
Best in show, because that'sthe top dog, and then there's
extreme stuff.
So extreme stuff is a new stuff.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
I don't know I don't see more cool things.
Let's elaborate a little bitmore on that.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
I just want to elaborate a little bit more on
that, because I just heard oneguy when he jumped on.
Today Kano can correct me ifI'm wrong it's like 2,500 right
now.
Oh, it's about one other guyjust jumped on.
He just didn't donate.
I just seen the post a littlewhile ago.
So another guy, so peopledonate, but those guys are
donating and they're bringingthe dogs in the ring, so it's

(55:57):
kind of like they're betting onhimself, right?

Speaker 3 (55:58):
so yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's kind of it's a, it's afor me.
I'm kind of on different.
I like to have fun with it, umis kanoa on.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
I hear yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll take that ball and
ross, sorry, my father is whereI think about the fun one to
this year, because again, forstacking dog on the table for,
say, three hours, say five, tentimes and you win the kind of
money you're going to win.
There's not too much places youcan do that, so yeah it's a

(56:22):
bunch of money and whoever doesit is going home with one again,
with one good, prestigiouspride in their pocket.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
I guess you know what is the best part about I Feed
Raw.
Oh, this guy.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
You know what is the best part about?
I Feed Raw.
What is that?
Whoever the emcee he gave him,one year of raw food for his dog
.
One year of supply food for hisdog One year.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Oh me, that's every 10 minutes.
Plug that, bro.
I need every 10 minutes, broLive liners bro.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
All day live liners Instagram.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
you got to plug them bro.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Plug plug bro.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
That's how we still go Like in the future.
What is your vision and goalsfor this show, because it seems
like it's growing.
What do you see it turning intoand what do you hope it turns
into?

Speaker 4 (57:27):
This show right here.
You know how I get plenty ofshows out in the mainland, right
, yeah, you get plenty of otherkind of shows that people throw,
but we like to show people fromHawaii, like just all Hawaii
made, and then we go straightout to the mainland, like Vegas,
california, where other peoplefrom the mainland can join our
show.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, because it's always oh oh, we go to a show but it's run

(57:50):
from, you know, mainland guys.
I mean nothing wrong with that,but we like some something come
from hawaii, rooted in hawaii,and then you transfer to the
mainland.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
that's what I like that would be super cool.
Vegas would be perfect, bro.
I get so much local support invegas.
Plenty people that um listen tomy show is locals that move to
vegas because they just likehear local people people talking
story.
Yeah, that's a.
That's a good vision, bro.
I could definitely see youdoing that, especially in vegas.

(58:21):
Oh, you'd drop that.
In vegas, everybody would comefrom cali and everywhere.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
Yeah, that would be a good I just came home from
vegas and then the brothers upthere was like god, I get the
spot for you, I get the spot foryou.
I said, oh wait, let us, let ushawaii first.
You know what?

Speaker 4 (58:39):
I mean yeah, yeah, take a hawaii first, yeah yeah,
that's true.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
How's the support been from the outer islands?

Speaker 4 (58:45):
oh, yeah, no, that's why we get plenty support from
them.
So some other guys behind thescenes is from maui, from big
island.
We get plenty.
So we're playing guys from bigisland coming down too for the
extreme show, you know so, andmaui too as well.
So we get, we'll get.
Yeah, we'll get a pretty goodcrowd come out, at least from
every, every island yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
So from this extreme show I just like share.
So we get this Hawaiian weaponthat we taught on as a trophy.
I'm going to go get them in alittle bit.
I'm going to go show you.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
So say, for instance you win them, you don't, you
don't, you want it.
You can put your name on thetrophy, but the next show you
got to defend them.
Oh, like on belt, on belt, yeah.
Instead of doing the belt.
We did this online trophy, butlet me go get this trophy and

(59:48):
this is what we came up with andyou got to defend them.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
It's not for you to keep.
Better not have someone in yourhouse than whoever win them.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
You guys is changing the game a little bit, because I
never heard of a dog show likethis and I get co-workers that
compete and the freaking doglook game a little bit, because
I never heard of on dog show,ladies, and I get co-workers
that compete and the freakingdog look like a little puff ball
and like this is not it.
This isn't that kind of showyeah, this seems more more of
what like local bradas would beinto, you know, I mean check for

(01:00:30):
me coming stream a little bit.
Yeah, that's what it is I thinkthere's a, not a market.
Well, there's a market for it,but there's a a want for it.
And, bro, these, these, thesepeople like to show off their
dogs, they like to be aroundpeople that are into the same
stuff they're in.
And, oh yeah, like brad, it'skind of innovative.

(01:00:51):
Nobody ever thought of doing itthis big.
You're kind of breaking newlevels.
Oh that, oh shit, can you?
see it, I don't know and it'sthe first year you guys have
this.
Yeah, who made that thing?

(01:01:15):
That thing is nice.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
See this Designed too .

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Wait, so you're telling me that the extreme
winner is going to win that andthe money, and the money.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
But they got to bring him back next year.
Though I don't know If I wonthat trophy, I'd pretend that I
stole it.
Yeah, I'd pretend that I stoleit.
We got a contract Bob.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
Like I said turn away you got to put an air tag in
that fucker, you got to put anair tag in that fucker.
No, so we got one legitimatecontract that you got to sign
and everything that is massive.
Yeah, this thing is about what?
Three feet total.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Bruh.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Yeah, where did you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
get that made.
That thing looks amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Let me go put this away Because I don't like this
thing.
Drop or anything.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
Oh bro, I forget the name.
Hopefully we can plug them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Yeah, for sure, bro, that thing is massive.
They make all kinds.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
What is that?
I don't know.
Maybe, I don't know, is massive.
They make all kinds bro.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
What kind of wood is that?
Kano, mango?
I don't know.
Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Or wood Boy that thing, look cool bro Boy, like
Kano, you gotta enter one ofyour dogs in for win.
That thing no.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Oh, we trying, bro, trust me.
Oh, it depends.
Yeah, we'll try it.
Well, extreme again.
I'm going to have to look.
I think I get extreme stuff.
But I got to look at thecompetition, right, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
I got to scout this year.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
I can't understand because you know some of us is
blind out there.
You know what I mean.
I can think I get this and thenlike, oh where this bugger with
me.
So one thing about me, andthere's two.
There's the way guys is in thedog world.
They take their mouse and theyhide them right and they like
bust them out later on, oh, likebrah, and then they like bust
them out through these guys'shows.

(01:03:17):
So you just never know what'sout there, because one guy in
the corner, the con of and yougrab this and put this on the
internet.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
And for me.
I'm all over the internet.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
So I'm kind of vulnerable that way, because I
put myself out there, right,yeah, but no, I'm going to try,
we're going to try.
We get a few dogs over herethat I think might fit somewhat
of Bill.
But again, it all depends onwhat's out there, because if I
see one freaking animal that hey, my friend, if I was a judge I

(01:03:47):
ain't going to be that.
So no sense, right.
But it ain't gonna be that.
So no sense, right.
But for me it's, I don't careif I win or lose.
I always tell everybody hey,I'm out there, so you can plug
my shirt.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
I'm out there look at my shirt.
So I'm out there for branding.
I'm a brander, um, I'm tryingto just network yeah networking
and all that.
So win or lose.
I'm gonna go home with a smileon my face.
My dog wouldn't go and love meregardless.
I'm gonna love them regardlessand we're out there Having some
fun With the family bro.
It's another day at the park.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
I think that's what's Making you guys grow the most
Is the family element, andthat's how you Built this show
around To creating moments Withyour family.
That shit just grows, bro.
That stuff grows, and thatmeans you're coming From one
place of aloha, one, one placein your heart where it's

(01:04:35):
attractive, like that's what.
That's what hawaii needs rightnow is more stuff like this,
because it's it's weird outthere, man, everybody on their
iphones and all this stuff, andit's like there's no people
living in the moment.
And, right, they too, they'retoo set on impressing people
with what they're doing, thenenjoying what they're doing, and

(01:04:55):
you guys forcing families tocome together in a common love
for dogs brad, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
I think that's why your stuff's gonna be big I like
that word attractive though,because, like you like you say
us as a whole.
In a way, we was attractive asa whole community and we're not
attractive anymore as acommunity.
I mean, we became very, verymundane.
I don't even want to use theword Aloha, because it's kind of
even mundane word or anything,but just the whole vibe is not

(01:05:25):
the same.
We could go out and you know,we could feel them.
Now you don't even feel them.
Now, it's like's like.
Okay, well, we stay here.
Now I gotta watch myself andbefore we're like yeah, we over
here, you can just know the vibe.
You know no more that that vibeanymore.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Yeah, I agree, but I guarantee this kind of stuff is
putting it in the rightdirection.
I guarantee you can feel themon on that saturday.
Well, we've been going forabout an hour.
Can try to wrap this up, wherecan people find you guys on
Instagram and try to drop thedates and address and where and

(01:05:59):
what to expect at this show?

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
Well, you can find me on hothead, underscore Kano.
It's my IG.
And then the show again will beMarch 8th at the Croc Center in
Ewa Beach and that's going tobe 5 to 10 pm, open to the
public and everybody's.
Welcome the food trucks,vendors, we'll get all kinds of
stuff going on.
So come out, come out with thefamily, enjoy the day it.

(01:06:26):
Come out with the family, enjoythe day.
It's free, it's free, it's free.
Free, it's free.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
Free for the adults.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Well, anybody can come, it's free.
You just show up and just Well,you can put up tent and just
chill.
Oh, if you're going bound youget a bound spot.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
But if you want, to come in just come and spectate,
just just for coming, spectate,just yeah, you can come in for
free, but if you can bring ondog and you like enter, or what
is this?
If you just can bring on dog,it's gonna be $20 for coming for
all type dogs, but everybodyelse will be free, yeah if you
like one spot, it's on 10 by 20for $50.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Hit up Kanoa, we still get, still get spots.

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
I'm gonna leave it open only till the day of the
show.
Oh man, Well, we get plenty.
We get plenty of lock-ins there, so yeah, come out Good for you
guys.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
And it's at the Kroc Center from 5 to 10.
What the team will be, powertime You're going to have to.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
You're going to have to keep.
You got to jab right in thatone, yeah, hopefully Especially
when you.
That's a good venue though Forthat.
Yeah, first time we're on DowShow At the Croc Center, so
that's what.
That's what Mansman told me, soit's, it's a good open space

(01:07:41):
Very well, nice, perfect areayeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Nah, it'll be stoked, bro, with that family vibe.
They're gonna be stoked.
That's exactly why that placewas built For bringing community
together.
That's exactly what it's for.
Yeah, all right.
And for you, where can peoplefind you?
On the um, on instagram andstuff on the tnc kennels, hawaii

(01:08:04):
, uh and uh.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
facebook kenny liu okay yeah.
And then um, cnc Kennels Hawaiiand Facebook Kenny Liu, okay
yeah.
And then you guys can messageme too, and then I message, I
shoot everything over to Kanawha.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Okay, if people like get a spot or sponsorship or
anything like that, yeah,Anything you know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
If you guys like info on you know whatever we can
help get a spot or sponsorshipor anything like that.
Yeah, anything.
Um, you know info.
If you guys like info on doll,you know whatever we can help
Like.
If I don't have the answer, Ireach out to Kanoa, I reach out
to Kaleo, I reach out to otherpeople, you know.
So anything that we can help.
Like I said, we we always therefor help people.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Okay.
Akoleo where can people findyou on Instagram?

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
You can find us at Kalakua Frenchies.
We're Kalakua Bullies.
You can also find me at iFeedRaw Hawaii.
Yeah, so, like Tenny said, I'mon the phone all day, every day,
talking to people about dogsfrom somebody that's at the lake
.
Today I just got a phone callfrom a person that pet people
that needed one oxygenconcentrator.

(01:09:14):
They came to my house pickingmy oxygen concentrator.
So there's so much differentstuff that we do.
It's just not us.
If you see me on the internet,this is my dog.
There's much more to just thedog.
So, how you know, come down tothe shows and come talk, story
and you can find out what we'reall about.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
All right, right on, we'll shock us for the cameras
brothers, we're out.
Shout out to the Artist GroupNetwork Aloha.