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When you pump from a reservoir versus120 feet you can save up to $31 an acre.
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Welcome to the Purdue Commercial AgCast.
This is Chad Fiechter.
And Todd and I spent some time inArkansas, talking with farmers,
advisors, researchers and industryleaders about what they're seeing.
What's working, what's changing,and what might be surprising
to Midwestern grain farmers.
This special series, Lessons fromthe Delta, is what we learned.
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We've broken it up into severalepisodes and what you'll hear is a
lot of conversations that we had aswe were driving around the Delta.
Some of 'em are in the truck, infields, conversations that popped up
about managing risk, the challengesaround water, labor, and capital, in
ways that look different than whatwe're familiar with in the Midwest.
Our goal isn't to compare the two regionsbut it's to ask questions where we can
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try to learn a little bit more about howproduction systems are built when the
constraints are a little bit different.
So we're looking at 120 acre reservoiroff that farm in Poinsette County.
These provide service water, so we'renot pumping the ground water up.
Dr. Henry has a paper out that showsthat when you pump from a reservoir
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versus, you know, 120 feet, 130 feetover here, you can save up to $31 an
acre on pumping cost just because you'renot having to pump it up that high.
Right.
You're pumping 15 feet versus 130.
This also provides, a lot of habitat,you stock this fish again, are just
gonna get in here naturally from birdscoming over here, but you can stock it.
I know they've got bass andcrappy and everything in here.
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We came through here one time andpeople don't always realize this, but
pelicans are migratory bird species.
Oh, I didn't.
Know that.
Yeah.
We've came out here a couple timesand there's pelicans out here.
So birds love this stuff.
Again we're creating allkinds of different habitat.
You got the wetlands, you got,120 acre, basically a lake here.
But if you look right here,he's got an .Electric re lift.
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So we're just gonnapull water out of this.
He's got another one over there.
He's been able to shut down, stopusing three of his groundwater wells.
That he's connected all the underground.
He's able to not pump out ofthe ground because of this.
So that it helps his rice alsobecause when you pump it from 130 feet
down, that the water's pretty cold.
Yeah.
So you get water shock.
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You're not getting that out of this.
Also with us recirculating oryou're catching all those nutrients
and stuff that run off the field.
So there's another thing,it's a nutrient catch.
So we're catching it here.
We're putting it right back on the field.
Okay.
This is a, an individualfarmer's reservoir?
Yes.
You said it's a hundred and what?
120 acres?
120 acres.
120 acres.
We're gonna do reallydumb math real quick.
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'Cause math is not mysubject, so it's 120 acres.
An acre foot is just a foot over anacre of, so you got 120 acres here.
You're gonna lose some because ofthe slope and then the corners, it's
not gonna be 20 acres, but we'rejust gonna, for my math skills,
yeah.
We're gonna cut it down to a hundred.
Yeah.
It's easier.
Parts of this, it's gonna be eightfoot deep, a reservoir is probably
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somewhere between six to eight feet.
Yeah.
And have some sendimentation.
So there's six to 800 acre feetof water in here, and there's
326,000 gallons in every acre foot.
So 800 acre feet times 326,000 gallons.
That's how much water's in here.
We're not.
So you could hypotheticallyirrigate three to 500 acres of rice.
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Yep.
Okay.
And is that, does he own is orwould the fields we're looking
at around here, the rice fields.
That's this guy like Yep.
So this is all goingright here onto his farm?
Yes.
Yep.
So energy costs are gonna go lowerbecause he is pumping outta here.
We're not using the groundwater,we're using surface water.
It's creating better yieldsbecause the water's warmer.
We're recycling those nutrients.
And then also allows him in the winter.
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We had talked about putting our boardsand our boxes in the winter catching
rainfall, but he's also able to pumpthis water into those fields in the
winter to progress that some, sometimesyou're gonna get a dry fall, you're
just not gonna catch a lot of rain,so you're just gonna have bare fields.
So some farmers will artificiallyflood those fields with pumping.
And so when you have a reservoiror a ray lift into a ditch or some
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sort of tail water recovery, youcan just keep using that water.
And Chad, I got bad news for you.
You cannot ice skate on this one.
I don't think.
You cannot.
You can't ice skate here.
No.
Water ski?
I
Possibly water ski.
I don't know.
Chad, you paddle?
Yeah.
Really?
Is it, there's no motors.
I can't take a boat out there.
Well, no, it is.
You could if you wanted to.
There's no, there's no ramp.
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Yeah.
There's no one.
Hey.
But if you, at the research station youwere at yesterday, if you look at the
reservoir, that's just south of him.
We passed it.
There's a boat ramp, and I know thatfarmer does put a boat ramp on every one
of his reservoirs so he can fish 'em.
Yeah.
A hundred percent multi-use.
For sure.
This was part of a broader project.
Um, so Equip CSP, NRCS providessome incentives and helps
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subsidize these for farmers.
So they're very expensive tobuild, I mean, several hundred
thousand dollars to get going.
And so there is a, there'san equip program for that.
And you're choosing to takeground out of production.
Yeah.
Right.
So that's a part of this equation too.
So it's like, okay, it's a biginvestment to build a structure like
this, but it's also the economics of,okay, I'm gonna take forty, sixty, a
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hundred twenty acres out of production.
Yeah.
So this,
But you think about that pumping costs andsome of the other trade-offs, like it's
still gonna cost you money ultimately,but it may give you a lot more longevity.
So this levee that we'restanding on, then they trucked
all this dirt in from somewhere
It came from here.
Oh, came from here.
So they would've had to, theydug this up, built this levee?
Yes.
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But like sometime the not too distantfuture, this where we're standing would've
looked exactly like that over there.
Yes.
And they just had to correct.
Yeah.
So that is easy.
Huge project.
A project.
Where does the water that'sin the reservoir come from?
So there's a rather large ditchright around here, and then there's
a lift that comes from that ditch.
And they pump it in here.
And we can go over there in just a minute.
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Look at that too.
Just see that setup up.
So talking about e quip.
So quip and, and the cost of this project.
'cause these things are massive.
And not everyone's gonna cost the same.
This was actually a reservoirbefore they just didn't use it.
But it was.
The equipment on it was outdated, itwas gravity fed it was just failing,
so they weren't using it anymore.
A farm bill cap on an individual was$450,000, and I'm pretty sure they
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hit that and they the farmer did someof that a little bit more on his own.
Than what you would've normally done justto fit everything in that 450,000 cap.
Normal farm equip contract, youwould look at roughly 60 to 75%
of it is gonna come from your NRCScontract, and then the other 40.
25 is coming from that producer.
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But they've decked this one out.
Like I said, there's a couplerelives here that go into the fields.
One cool thing they have ispump automation and flow meters.
So they, if you look, there's a littlecore that's going, this discharge
pipe coming off of the, well.
That there's a little propeller inthere and they can get on their phone
and see how much water's coming throughthat pipe at any given point in time.
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So it's, that's like having adash on your car, like you can
drive it, but if you don't knowhow fast you're going, sometimes
it might not be the safest thing.
It just gives 'em an extra tool.
They've also got a on off switchover here on the power unit.
To where they can turn thiswell on and off on their phone.
Mm. So, and that works a couple goodways, is that they can turn it on, turn
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it off right there, and then they can flipover to their flow meter and make sure
that the water's going through the pipe.
Some of them you get nervous if youturn on a well and you're 10 miles away.
You don't know if it's actually going orif you're just gonna burn up your motor.
So that's a good way to do that.
The biggest gain, I think you talkto a lot of farmers that you get from
pump automation, and this is you getto spend more time with your family.
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That's right.
Friday night, your grandkid, yourkids have a baseball game, but you're
turning off wells because you turn 'emon Tuesday or Wednesday or whatever.
However you.
Irrigation works.
You can go to the ball game, sitin your rocking chair, in the
bleachers, wherever, pull it upon your phone, turn 'em all off.
You turn it on Tuesday morning likenormal, and then all of a sudden a storm
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comes through at one o'clock in themorning and you wake up to thunder and
lightning and you look and it's coming.
And you're like, well, Idon't need to irrigate now.
You, instead of coming out heremessing up your roads, mudding,
you, you're you just roll over.
You turn.
All the wells off on your phone.
You go back to bed,
You're tell me you're havingless fun in the field.
A little bit less fun.
You, you get more sleep and morequality time with your family.
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Okay.
That's when we talked a littlebit yesterday at the Rice Center.
And riding around andjust water management.
Dr. Burcham was talkingabout, just chasing water.
Not everybody has an automated system.
No.
I don't know what theadoption rate is now.
It's getting better.
It was pretty weak.
Yeah.
You know, four or five years ago.
But it is getting betterspecifically because of this.
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But it's yeah.
'Cause that was the number onething we would hear four years ago
when we're working out here, iswithout pump automation, somebody's
out here almost every few nights.
'Cause you're turning stuff on andoff and it's all hours of the day and
you're worried pumps are gonna blow up.
And so that, that leads it to somethingelse is that it's, these guys have a
problem sometimes finding people thatare willing to work outside all day long.
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So the size of the workcrews is getting smaller.
And th this allows to run a goodsized operation with fewer people.
Just because everything's automated.
You can see it at the shop, shakeyour wells, they're all running
the, there's flow gone through 'em.
You don't have to have two or threeguys running around just doing that.
You can have 'em workingon something else.
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The the one complaint I wouldhave about this is if I was gonna
build 120 acre retention pondlike this, it's so beautiful.
I'd want it to be right next to my house.
Yeah.
I'm shocked that they weren't like, let'sput this one right next to my house and
every afternoon I could fish at sunset.
Yeah.
That's what I'd be doing.
There are some guys that haveit right next to their house.
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But yeah.
So, so this is one of the ways though,that we're alleviating that ground water
use that's helping slow that trend of,
and then
depletion.
Is this also some place thatpeople could duck hunt like
these kind of ponds like this?
Yep.
Yep.
The producer could easily duck hunt.
The water's kind of deep you'regonna get ducky side of it.
But the fields are gonna make better.
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Oh, okay.
They walk around.
Yeah.
Make sure more food algae.
Yes.
Six to 18 inches of water is all you need.
You got a put of water out here?
They want, you want a duck walking around?
'cause you don't wanna get sitting ducks.
Right?
That's the, uh, that's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like the fish in a barrel.
Okay.
I got, we gotta go back 'causeyou said something, now I'm
trying to think about it.
Is there a benefit to over winteringyour rice fields with water on them?
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Yes.
So obviously it's going to keep it'sspraying that habitat for the waterfowl.
Once you put the water back onit, you're gonna start seeing
macro invertebrates come in.
Ducks need protein source whenthey're migrating back north.
That it provides a really good source.
It also provides cover dependingon how much residues out there.
It also helps deterioratethat rice stubble.
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So instead of having to burn outa lot or till it in, and there's
a lot of work to it, if you floodit, it will help reduce that.
It's not the same but.
That's one of the benefits of it.
Ducks won't land.
Yeah.
Like if there's no water ona rice field in the winter.
Yeah.
They generally aren't gonna land.
Right.
They, they look for water.
Yeah.
Okay.
So would a farmer flood his field besideswanting to create habitat for waterfowl or
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They're, yes.
For the residue management, justbecause it is, it's pretty difficult.
So you could roll it, flood it, andthen it's gonna help deteriorate
that, those, those macro invertebratesthe ducks will even do it.
So as they're scavenging for seedson the bottom they're in there
kicking it up and moving around.
So they're helping deterioratethat rice stubble too.
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