Police Academy 2: Their First Assignment (1985)

"They've graduated, and they're ready for life on the streets. But are the streets ready for them?" In this episode, we discuss the comedy sequel 'Police Academy 2: Their First Assignment.' The movie stars Steve Guttenburg, Bubba Smith, David Graf, Michael Winslow, Bruce Mahler, Marion Ramsey and Colleen Camp. Directed by Jerry Paris.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hello, welco with the All Eighties Movies Podcast, the podcast
where we talk about the blockbusters, the flops, and everything
in between from one of the precious decades from movies,
the nineteen eighties. I'm her host Bill Banton Loum McNee
on this journey revisiting eighties movies. Is my co host
Jason Nassik. Jason, You're the most incredible ass kisser I
have ever seen.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Thank you very much, Bill, I do my best.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
That's right, listeners, we are discussing with Spoils and plenty.
The nineteen eighty five comedy sequel Police Academy two their
first assignment. It was produced by The Lad Company and
distributed by Warner Brothers. The movie stars Steve Gumberg, Michael Winslow,
collieen Camp, bobcat Goldway, and David Graff. Directed by Jerry Paris.
This movie is right at PG thirteen with the running

(01:02):
time of one hour and twenty seven minutes. We covered
Police Academy back in season four. So what is this
movie about? What's on the box? If you grew up
in the nineteen eighties and what's your local video store?

Speaker 2 (01:14):
To rent this movie?

Speaker 1 (01:15):
You would find this description on the back of the
VHS box. It is what's in the box. Take it away, Jason,
Watch out. A wacky wizard of Ozzy and his band
of merry Punkers are on the prowl. They're leveling their
spray cans and painting the town red or any color
of graffiti. They please never mind the misspellings. If you
see this leathered and studded gang of pin headed pranksters, run,

(01:38):
don't walk the other way, because they're also emptying the
pockets of anyone sharing the sidewalk. In the wake of
this new wave of crime, you might be wondering where
the educational system has gone wrong, But relax, America. Think
of the police Academy. Now that's the kind of school
you can trust. And guess what the raw recruits of
police Academy are back. When this hilarious bunch of odd

(02:00):
balls in blue tangles with the painting Punkers, you're in
for an open and shutcase of NonStop laughter called Police
Academy two their first assignment. Among those again answering law
enforcement's most uproarious roll call are Likable Meathead, Mahoney, Florist
turn flat Foot, high Tower, wild Eyed weapons Freak, Tackleberry,

(02:21):
squeaky voiced hooks, sound effects whiz Kid Larvell, and the
impeccably inept Academy commandant Eric Lesarde. Newcomers to the High
Jinks and Handcuffs include Howard Hessman as the Precinct Captain,
Tim Kazarinski as a Fuddy Duddy Nerds nerd, and Bob
Golthwaite as Zed, the Ozzy Osbourne like gang leader who,

(02:44):
in the absence of bats, choose up scenes with outrageous
punk style. America welcomed the return of its bumbling, gut
busting crimebusters in a most noticeable way, as Police Academy two,
their first assignment, recorded the biggest springtime opening in box
office history. So why not see for yourself what all
the fur and fun is about for the first time

(03:04):
in your life. You'll be glad there's a riot, a
laugh riot in the streets. Police Academy too their first assignment,
So that was what's in the box and Jason, I
was impressive getting through that. Holy Moly, that's a plethora
of tongue twisters.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Well, as listeners probably know already, the only reason I
got through it is because of your ability as an editor.
No one needs to know a secret. That was rough. Yeah,
but that was a fun one. That was a long
one too. That was a long one.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Jason, do you remember the first time you saw a
Police Academy to their first assignment?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
My first assignment was to watch this at some point
on cable, and I did, and that's all I remember.
To be honest, there's no question I know I saw
multiple times on cable. But other than that, Bill Band,
I have no memory of this film and no attachment
to it outside of ague feeling that I probably thought
it was Ahilair. Yes, when I was a kid. That's
what my part is telling me that I enjoyed it

(04:03):
at some point, But that's all I got. I'm just
going to defer to you right away.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
This was the only Police Academy movie I had seen
in the theater. My dad took me to see this one,
which was surprising because since it came out in the spring,
we usually didn't go to the movies when school was
in session. So the fact that my dad actually took
me to see this, I think because he was just
a huge fan of the first one, and you know,
because it's PG. Thirteen the AMC Orleans eight. I do
remember that cool Okay, so let's talk about the movie. Then.

(04:29):
What are our impressions of Police Academy two?

Speaker 2 (04:33):
What do you got, Jason? Are our impressions? Indeed, Bill Bant,
this was a rough watch for me. Man, I'm sorry
to say, but I got this immediate sense as it
began that this was going to be a different experience
from watching the first film in the series. It felt
a little flat. It felt like it was missing a

(04:54):
certain energy that I was trying to pinpoint. Mainly, it
was a pace that the first one I felt had.
It felt as if the edits in this speaking of editing,
weren't as sharp or quick enough, and the movie wasn't
quite directed as well, And there might be an explanation
for this. We may discuss this later. But most importantly,
this just wasn't funny for me. The jokes weren't landing,

(05:17):
and there are some decent setups, which was more frustrating
for me. Even more frustrating because I was like, Oh,
there's gonna have to be some laughs as a result
of the setup. But there was a lack of follow
through and there weren't great payoffs for me, And that
could just be my sensibility, my sense of humor my taste.
For instance, right from the start, when this film begins

(05:38):
with that great theme song, I do want to be
a little positive here, it still look a theme signs
with the credits start to roll, and we see Tim
Kazarinsky as Sweet Chuck enforcing all of his security measures
at his what would you call that that lighting shop,
his retail that sells lamps and lights and chandeliers. So
he has all these wonderful the extreme security measures that

(06:02):
he's installing and turning on and setting up, and you're like, wow,
this is gonna be great when all these things go off,
and they don't. They actually move away from that, and
he ends up going to an ATM, which then is
where the action takes place. And the Scullions, I keep
wanting to say scallions, but it's Scullions led by of course,

(06:23):
bobcat Goldwaite. Great to see him doing his crazy shtick
and that was his thing in the eighties. And why
didn't they rob the store? I thought that was what
we were just being set up for. But that's just
a microcosm of my issues I think I was having
with this, or I know I was having with this.
Rewatch by the way when I was watching do you
remember when ATMs first came into effect, when you were

(06:48):
able to use an ATM? It just made me think
about this like it was a very eighties thing watching it,
and then I was like, wait a minute, I don't
even remember ATMs necessarily as a kid.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
No, I don't either, I think because I was just
too young to have money so I wouldn't have to
go to a banker a ATM.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, but I don't even recall seeing them that much.
And maybe that's because I, just, like you said, I'm
not going into the bank as a kid or even
a teenager. But I had to look this up. Here's
a fun fact for y'all. The world's first ATM was
unveiled on June twenty seventh, nineteen sixty seven, at a
Barclays Bank branch in Enfield, North London. Goes back to
nineteen sixty seven. I never would have guessed that, Yeah,

(07:26):
I would have never figured that. So back on point here,
I just felt after that weird opening that then everything
was going to be either a site gag or a pratfall,
and either it was weird or gross or silly, as
if it were being performed for a room full of
young teenage boys. That's the particular demographic for this type

(07:49):
of movie. And there's an example here where Steve Guttenberg
great who plays Mahoney. We know what to expect here.
This is not going to be The Godfather by any stretch.
Just we know what to expect to a certain extent.
I don't think I had my expectations set to high here.
Near the beginning of the film, we see him at
the tailor. He's about to get a new police uniform,
and he basically bribes the young girl for her balloon,

(08:12):
gives her a Snickers bar, she gives him her balloon animal,
and then approaches the very attractive female tailor and it
just turns into him doing a visual dick joke. He's
putting the balloon in his pants as if he has
a big boner right in her face as she's taking
his measurements. And I was like, that's not even funny.
What are we doing here? That's just kind of it's

(08:34):
very sophomoric and very cross. I don't want to overthink
this as if it wasn't what I was expecting. And
I know these types of jokes in the style of
humor existed in the first film. I just felt in
the first film either the writing was stronger to back
it up and or some of these scenes actually serve
the story a little bit more. But it was scenes
like that that just fell flat for me. I was like,

(08:56):
I'm not going to laugh out loud at that kind
of humor right now. And maybe that's just unfortunately the
adult in me, and as a kid, I probably thought
it was really silly, But the first film felt like
it had a kind of a clear direction as to
where it was going with a lot of the hijinks,
and or maybe it could be crazy, but and it
felt like in the first film, the entire cast seemed
to be on the same page in the same movie,

(09:17):
and I had some issues with either the characters how
they were portrayed in this and who the cast members
were actually I should say cast of characters, not actors themselves.
So those are just some issues I had from this.
It was a little bit of a It was just
a flat watch for me. The jokes felt flat and
it didn't work for me. So that's my first impression

(09:39):
watching this as an adult. Unfortunately, I was hoping just
to sit down for less than an hour and a
half and have fun with this. But I got a
little frustrated, to be honest.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Wow, that's kind of surprising to hear that you were
frustrated with it. One of the things I do not
like about this movie is if you quizzed me on
when scenes happened throughout the movie, I couldn't answer that
because all it is is just a series of vignettes
that are strung together, and they can be strung together
in any order, and it doesn't affect the movie whatsoever.

(10:08):
There's no real plot. It's just here's a little funny bit.
Let's go on to the next one. Here's the funny bit.
Let's go on to the next one. Here's the funny bit.
But I think what I do like about the movie
is I really enjoy the characters. I like Mahoney, I
like High Tower, I like tackle Berry, I like Jones.
So they're likable enough for me that they helped me

(10:29):
get through the film, and I'll find some of the
stuff they do throughout the movie funny. But the writing
is on the wall with this film that this series
is going to get stale, and it's going to get
stale really quick because they're already rehashing most of the
jokes for the first one. It's like, Okay, this was
funny in the first movie, how do we do this
again the second one. So there is not a lot

(10:50):
of originality in this film. But if you like the
jokes in the first one, I think they still kind
of worked in the second one. I agree too. I
don't think it's directed very well. I don't think it's
shot very well. I do like most of the new
characters they brought in. I was very surprised to see
Howard Hesspin in it, right, I think just because of
what I know about him. Yeah, this doesn't seem like

(11:13):
a role he would take. And of course afterwards he
said he wished he had never done it, So it
does make sense, right, But I think it was enjoyable
enough that I was like, Okay, not a bad sequel.
It's not going to equal the first. But you're like,
if they keep going down this path, there's gonna be problems.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
And that's exactly what they did. Gotcha. That completely tracks
And I'm glad we're talking about the cast and you
brought up these actors that are very likable in these roles.
They're very specific roles. We know exactly who these characters
are and in a way sometimes a little bit of
a caricature, but it does work for this type of comedy.
Gutenberg is got that smarmy, goofy grinning like an idiot

(11:51):
smile on his face the whole movie, Like he's literally
smiling throughout the whole movie. Bubba Smith very serviceable. Always
like to see Michael Winslow doing as sound effects. He's
a talented guy. Marion Ramsey as Hooks doing the squeaky voice,
it's effective. I think David Graff is great as tackle Berry. Yes,
he was made for the part, and his facial expressions

(12:12):
and his delivery is wonderful, and he has a kind
of a goofy great that big bumbling presence, but always
fun to see what he's going to do with the firearms.
So it's good to see the band of brothers and
sisters here back together again for this for sure. I
enjoy that's aspect of it. Tackle Berry is the only
one that's really given any kind of story in this.
Everyone else just kind of comes in and comes out.

(12:33):
At least Tackleberry has something. He meets someone, he finds
a girl, and that relationship has shown throughout the film,
but everybody else, no, nothing that is a problem. Yeah,
there's just not a lot to sink your teeth into.
But again I'm trying not to be too high minded
about this and knowing, you know, what is the tone
of that? What am I watching here, and to and
just enjoy it for what it is. But the two

(12:55):
big actor issues I had was one, it's notably missing
ged Up Bailey from the first film. For me as
Lieutenant Thaddeus Harris, I thought he really played up the
comedy and the over the top sort of villain or
heel if you will, and his diamondamic between himself and
George Gains like they had as Commandant Eric Lizard. Those

(13:18):
two had a nice back and forth that worked for me.
And then in this we get the character of watch
Commander Mauser played by Art Matrano and he sort of
has a partnership dynamic with Officer Proctor played by Lance Kinsey,
whom I thought actually was a bit of a stand up.
I thought Lance Kinsey as Proctor played that bumbling idiot
quite well. I thought he was really good in this

(13:41):
for the few scenes that he was in. But for me,
Art Matrono as Mouser wasn't quite as strong as GW. Bailey.
I was missing GW. Bailey as Lieutenant Harris in this
a lot.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
I was okay with Malser. Yes, I missed GW. Bailly,
but I thought he wasn't a bad replacement. And he
did have a motive in this, so I'll give him
that too. He had something to do in a reason
to do what he was doing because he wants to
take over the precinct. That makes sense to me, sure,
but yeah, he's gonna be bad for now. I enjoyed

(14:11):
him enough. Great, see that's it's a taste thing. Yeah,
but I agree with you wholeheart.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
The second issue I had character slash actor issue I
had with this was Captain Pete Lazard, like you said,
played by Howard Hessman. We love Howard Hessman as we
do WKRP in Cincinnati. Come on, He's wonderful and he's
criminally under used in this as an actor. As a
comedic actor, his character is poorly written. He's the brother

(14:37):
of Eric Lazard George Gaines. Shouldn't he either? And this
is a sequel where everything supposedly becomes more exaggerated the
big you know, it's bigger, it's better and all these things.
So now it's the brother of this art. Is he
going to be even more goofy and just oblivious to
everything going on and just as his brother is, or
the extreme opposite of that. Maybe it's neither. He's just

(14:58):
like this passive, nice guy captain in the film, And
I'm like, what the hell is this character? That was unfortunate?
And like you said, and you know you do then
read that Howard Headsman not going to return to this
franchise after the film, so he knew it wasn't a
great character for him.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
I would say, I do agree with that, Howard. He's
basically playing the straight map. I'm like, wait, you have
a talent like that, right, don't let him play the
street And there's not enough jokes bouncing off of him
to make it worthwhile, especially when Yeah, he's supposed to
be Lessard's brother, so you would hope he would be
something similar.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah. I think I'm just kind of covered my issues here.
I just don't want to belabor it. This was not
my cup of tea. I just didn't care for it.
I didn't think it was a good movie. It felt aimless.
It was a comedy in the wrong hands, it felt like,
and going over the research on some of the trivia
behind the scenes, it does, you know, and then thinking
about the film, you could say some of these people

(15:50):
involved were going through the motions for a paycheck. Possibly,
But usually I'm happy to see an eighties comedy that's
under an hour and a half. It was a great
time for that sort of thing. They usually they can
work very well, but this felt like it was filled
with filler. Like you said, it's a series of scenes.
It was missing a little of the edge the first
one had for me, and the first one I'm all

(16:11):
good with being irreverently funny, but for me that just
the payoffs weren't there. For the first film, I laughed
out loud for a few times, and not even George Gaines,
who is in this returning his commandant Eric Lisard, he
didn't even make me laugh in this. Something was off
and I just didn't laugh out loud once during this watch,
and so I was surprised by that. That's I'll just
leave it at that.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
I would say the first two acts, like I said,
even though it's just a bunch of mignantes that are
strung together, I did enjoy it because I like the characters.
I like the situations they were put in, and sometimes
it made me smile, sometimes it made me chuckle. But
once the third act kicked in, once Mahony gets suspended
and they do the whole undercover m hm, it falls

(16:54):
off a press offense. Yes, that third act is terrible. Okay, yeah,
him trying to play the gang member. No one's going
to buy your crap whatsoever. I understand you're trying to
be funny, you're trying to stereotype a gang member, but
that was not working at all. I think the only
part that was funny was when Jones shows up, Mahony

(17:16):
starts making him kick his partner because his partner's racist.
But then after that, that's a slog to get through. Yeah,
I only like the setting, that's all. I like the setting.
The fact they were at the old Zoo. I was like,
all right, that's kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I actually wrote that down too, But that kind of
underground layer for the bad guys. Yeah, it reminded me
of The Lost Boys a little bit. Actually, that kind
of cave atmosphere. I think the last yeah, twenty five
minutes are rough, there's barely any laughs. It doesn't work
at all. Yeah, but I think I enjoyed the first
first two thirds of it. I like that one and

(17:49):
two three was just bad. Okay, you're finding something in it,
you're getting something out of it. That's great. It was
interesting when when Gutenberg goes undercover there it becomes part
of the gang. I looked at the clocket, there's twenty
minutes left in the movie. I'm like, Oh, we're just
getting into an actual story here, or you know, because
I was wondering the whole movie is like the loose

(18:09):
framework we have is that this gang is overrunning the
sixteenth Precinct. And we were like, when are our new recruits,
are our cast of characters that we've grown to love,
when are they going to start kicking butt and start
going after this gang and get infiltrateed and or eradicate it.
And things don't get really moving in that direction till
twenty minutes left in the movie. I'm like, oh, Okay,

(18:30):
now stuff's happening, gotcha.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Right, And that's what we don't want it to happen
because it's not well written. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, it's
move on to favorite scenes or moments. So Jason, do
you actually have any kind of favorite scener moment in
this movie you can share with us?

Speaker 2 (18:45):
You know, I do. I do, so I apologize to
the listeners anyone that and I totally understand if you
have a nostalgic attachment to the series of films. This franchise,
I know, holds a place in a lot of people's hearts.
And I am not going to be a Debbie Downer here.
I actually find Bill's review is very infectious and he
may actually sway me, and that might happen as we
discuss our favorite scenes, because then I look back, I go,

(19:06):
oh wait, I'm talking about these moments. Actually I did
enjoy or I did smile during some of these scenes
and or moments, and I was maybe laughing on the inside.
So I'm starting in the beginning with the series of
scenes right after that the credit sequence in the beginning
where we are reintroduced to our characters from the first film,
and we see the sequence of the quote unquote where

(19:29):
are they now? And we see Tackle Berry basically being
he's like a crossing guard outside of a grade school,
I'm assuming, and this is wonderful because a car pulls
up in front of the school and it's a mother
and son, and the mother's trying to is it a mother?
Is it mom and son? I think it is yes.
I think it is yes. And we recognize them immediately

(19:52):
as both of them were Hey, it's that actors in
previous episodes of the All Eighties Movies Podcast. Yep. Mom
in Mercedes, as she's credit, is played by Lucy Lee Flippan,
and I have to insist at this point of course,
for Bill Bant to do the impression of her from
Summer School is that your blood. You can barely do

(20:14):
it without laughing. That's great. Oh, it's one of my
favorite impersonations of all time. And I remember we saw
her too in Flash Dance as a secretary. Yes, so
she's credited as Mom and Mercedes and her son, who's
credited as Bratt, is played by Jason Hervey, who's in

(20:34):
a handful of eighties bangers, one of them being Back
to the Future, and that's where I had put him
down as our Hay, it's that actor. So it's good
to see these familiar faces. And Yes, as the mother,
she's dealing with this Brady kid. He won't get out
of the car. He doesn't want to go to school,
so she gets out and approaches Tackleberry. And it's funny
because it's tackle Berry. He's over the top and you

(20:55):
know he's going to pull out a huge gun or
some sort of weapon, and sure enough, he's doing the
scale straight act here with this kid asks him to
get out of the car, won't get out, and then
he pulls out is I don't even know. It looks
like a giant pistol slash flare gun, but it releases
like a smoke bomb inside. So he shoots out the
back window of the car. It might be tear gas,

(21:16):
and the whole car fills with Yeah, let's go with
that tear gas and the kid has to get out
and go to school. It's so extreme. It's like, yep,
that's Tackleberry. Here we go. It was funny. I love
that stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Yeah, anytime you got Tackleberry pulling out weapons puts the
spot in my face that man loves his guns and weapons.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
And I can't believe kid calls his mom bird face
and I was like, whoa bird face?

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Man? That's rough you think about it too. It's just
the fact that Tackleberry has a weapon like that on
him outside of a grade school and it's just blasting
into the back of this woman's car prepared. I like
it for everything.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
One of my favorite scenes, and I think it's one
of the more memorable scenes of the movie, is when
they end up gluing Mauser's hair. So of course Mauser's
given the new recruits a hard time, and of course
Mahoney and that's not the right person you want to cross.
And they're in the locker room and Mauser goes take
a shower and tacker Berry has the glue. It's a

(22:17):
POxy that he's using it to fix his helmet, and
Mahoney uses it to replace with the shampoo, and then
Mauser basically washes his hair with the glue and then
gets his hands stuck and then he can't get his
hands out of his hair, and then he's walking around
the precinct and naked, and then the fact Proctor has
to cut his hands off his head right, and then

(22:37):
he's got like the hairy palms and they have little
running gag. I'd like that scene as a kid. I
still like that. Now it's an adult, I get it.
I get it a little.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
It made me think of Private Benjamin too, and you
can think of films with the shower pranks, right, it's
always a thing. And the part when Proctor is cutting
his hands free from the hair and then Mauser wants
to see what he looks like in the mirror, and
doctor keeps moving the mirror around his head so you
can't get a clear look at it. It's like, look
from this thing, it looked good. Over here, it looks great.

(23:08):
That's pretty funny, which actually is a good segue into
my next favorite moment. It's just actually a very brief
scene between Mauser and Proctor once again. And I had
mentioned I appreciated Lancekinzi as Proctor in this because he
just plays an idiot really, really well. So it's now
we have our new recruits that have been brought into

(23:30):
the sixteenth Precinct to help save the day and help
this area of town get cleaned up from the evil
gang element. And Mauser doesn't want this to happen because
he knows he made a deal with the Chief of
Police that if the Captain Lassard isn't able to do
this with these new recruits, then he can take over
as captain. And he has this little conversation off to

(23:52):
the side with Proctor, And there's some fun lines here
where Mauser says to Proctor, so these academy rats are
going to save the precinct on like, yeah, personally, Lieutenant,
I hope they fall flat on their asses and he
Mouser says that can be arranged, you know, and Practic's like,
what do you mean? And Maser says, well, if they fail,
I take over as commander of the precinct. And Maser says,
so we make sure they fail, and Proctor's like, who

(24:15):
mass like the new recruits. Practice says why. Mouser says,
if they fail, Lisard's out and I'm in. I'm gonna
need somebody to be in the new watch commander, and
you know who that's going to be. Practor says who
just says you dickhead. You Practor responds, oh, oh, well,
good idea, and Maser said, you're you're not playing with
a full deck, are you. Proctor says, oh, I don't
play cards. It's so stupid. But that was a moment

(24:38):
where I thought the writing came through. So I appreciated
that because I thought that was some fun play on words.
In the way that Lance Kinsey plays it, He's just
so oblivious. It's fun.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
I did laugh out loud. He's like, you dickhead. Yeah,
I guess just suffers from short term memory loss or something.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Another favorite scene for me, we have to have something
with Michael Winslow and that's the karate scene.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Good call. Heck yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
So the gang, the Scallions whatever they're called the Scullions,
they're hitting up a grocery guy for protection money and
Jones comes across this and there's a fence to the
back of his shop, and he basically jumps over the
fence and then does this whole karate routine. He's even
dubbing his voice like you'd be watching it on Kunk

(25:28):
Fu Theater on Saturday afternoons. That's what they used to
have one in Philadelphia Kunk Fu Theater where his mouth
would be moving, but then the voice doesn't quite match.
Just all the punches and then I definitely had a
Mandela effect because I thought there was more than two
gang members, which I would have loved that there was

(25:49):
if there was like three or four. And then Jones
just kicks the crap out of him with karate and
the wonderful help of a stuntman who's very obvious in
a couple of the scenes. Yeah, the fact that he's
just doing all the sound effects throughout that scene hilarious.
I remember as a kid when it came on cable
and I recorded the movie. I would watch that scene

(26:09):
over and over and over again. I love it so much,
and it was still funny to me to this day.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
I couldn't agree more understood. It's great Michael Winslow, what
a pleasure. Spaceballs this. Anytime he shows up, you just
want him to do the effects, and he comes through
every time, and he shines in this movie. They give
him a lot to do with that. I thought the
first when we were reintroduced to his character in the
very beginning, it's like at a food court and a
mall and the two yuppies sit down next to him

(26:36):
and he's doing them off to the effects, right off
to the side. That was a little weird for me
because obviously know that the sound isn't coming from the
other person, it's coming from off the side. That was
weird and it just didn't totally agree into the But
then later on, like when Mausers given his speech in
front of the new recruits, three bad reports and you're

(26:57):
suspended so you better act right when you're out there
on representing us on the streets and Winslow does the
alarm sound effect from his phone like stuff like that.
Love it any machine. When he's on the megaphone at
the end doing.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
That's true, that is a highlight for the third act.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, that's what I want to see. But when you're
talking about this particular scene that you enjoy so much
and you rewatch so much because he combines so many
things and it makes it believable and you know exactly
what he's doing when you said that, when he's doing
the like the voice dubbing, when he's moving his mouth
and nothing's happened, and then you hear the lines in English.

(27:34):
I can't get enough of that. I wish you would
just do that throughout the whole movie. I think exactly.
Guess that's what they those movies were like back then.
They just they never matched the dubbing with the ADR correctly.
So anyway, great stuff. That's a good call.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
But thanks for pointing out another highlight of the third
act that is hilarious when his on the megaphone because
it sounds realistic because if you're a gang member and
he's doing all those sounds and they're like, holy shit,
helicopters are coming in. More cops are going yep, totally
would fool them. That was almost realistic and realistically funny.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
He was doing different types of gun effects and then
the helicopter effect and the voices of the people.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, more sirens coming in. Yeah that was good.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, all right. Well, you know what, it
is definitely good to see the Blue Oyster Bar again
in this movie. You knew they would return to it
because it was gold in the first film. I was
mixed on this, however, but I just had to mention
it here. I want to be positive because in this particular,
see Tim Kazarinski is as sweet Chuck has a broken

(28:38):
arm and his arm is propped up in a cast.
So when he goes running into the Blue ser Bar,
he's totally ready. Like one of the bikers sees, oh,
this guy's ready to dance, so he just grabs him
by the arm and starts dancing with him. And I'm like, yeah,
let's go. It's hilarious. All the gay bikers in the
gay bar. It's just a lot of fun. But it

(28:59):
was missing the classic music. I was missing the song
I sing the song Bill, how does come on? How
do you not use? I wonder if there was a
licensing issue or something, But yeah, I really missed the song,
and I wished there was more of it like this.

(29:19):
I wouldn't mind if they kept returning to I understand
it's a joke from the first film, but I was thinking,
Bill Bant, that you could have given some of the
gay bikers a bigger role in this. They could have
come through, like at the end to come help, Like
maybe they had a crush on High Tower, which it
seems like they do at the end of that scene actually,
and they come to help him save the day and
fight the gang at the end. I thought that would

(29:41):
have been a lot of fun. I would have liked
to see more more of those guys.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Well, even like the whole way that sweet Chuck gets
in trouble because he has that cast and he just
goes to turn and accidentally punches one of the gang
members in the face, and then he's got to run off. Yeah,
and then that ends up at the Blue Oyster Bar.
Who practor almost knows the address too if you do
realize that the address he rattles off is not the
same as on the door, so I think he says

(30:06):
six twenty one, six thirty one and the Blues fifty five.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, good catch. Okay, that's paying attention for you, folks.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
So another favorite moment of mine is the only one
that really gets any kind of story in this is
Tackleberry and Tackle Berry's assigned his motorcycle cop. His partner
is a woman, and he does not like that at all.
You know, he's the man's man with his guns. But
luckily his partner played by Colleen Camp is also a
big fan of guns, and they fall in love, and

(30:37):
they go on their first date and Kirklin invites him
in and they tackle Berry is about to lose his virginity,
we find out, and they have a scene where they're
taking off their clothes, but then they're pulling out guns
and weapons left and right, and I thought that was
just kind of funny. It's over the top. But because
of the way tackle Berry is, this is so him.
I could see him bringing six weapons with him on

(30:58):
a date, so there's no surprise they were pulling all
this stuff out and it amos seems like they were
trying to up each other on pulling out weapons. Kirklin's
pulling a gun from her bra but then the lights
go out and the gun goes off and right yea,
Kirkland says something innuendous. Yeah, it was good to see
Tackleberry find a mate. Yeah, absolutely, find the one that

(31:19):
is meant for him. I have to admit now that
you describe it that it was amusing and it is
fun to watch that relationship develop. It's nice to see
tackle Berry find his match. And I was just hoping
for more actually throughout the sequence when you see them
go on this date, I wanted more of the gun play,
you know what it makes me think, I maybe I

(31:39):
wished it had been a little bit more along the
lines of the sequence in Naked Gun between Priscilla Presley
and Leslie Nielsen when they go on their date and
they just do all these goofy things that are over
the top and they're laughing as they come out of
platoon and things like that, and so here I thought
maybe they went to a gun range together or something
like that, and they were shooting off million different webs

(32:00):
just throughout the date. Because the date seems so simple
and straightforward romance, and then it gets to the goofy
stuff at the in the bedroom with all the guns
coming out, and if this was my first time seeing it,
I probably would have found it funnier. But I think
there's even a scene like this in the film in
the Line of Fire with Eastwood and Renee Russo, where
it's similar where they're throwing all of their weapons down

(32:23):
onto the ground as they're getting into bed, which is
so maybe I've just seen this a couple times in
other films, but it's still fun I can't deny that
with the gun shot going off was funny at the.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
End in the dark.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, but actually I do like some of your ideas.
They're pulling out the guns and then they're describing them
and it's getting them more excited. So they almost want
to really take off each other's clothes because they want
to find out what their weapons they.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Have on them. Oh that would be there, you go,
that's funnier. This is where I got frustrated. Yeah, I
returned to that word because it's like, oh, there is
some gold here. They just didn't mind it proper. There's
they had to set up or they have a situation,
and they didn't go deeper. They just went with the
surface joke. So that's my deal.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
One last thing. It's not necessarily a favorite scene or moment,
but it's just very memorable of me. I'll never forget this.
And it took me a long time to eat rice
crispies after watching this movie.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Oh, here we go.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
And that's when Mahony meets his new partner, Vinnie Stoltzmann,
who's an absolute slob. And Mahony goes to his apartment
and it's a hell hole and he's like, oh, can
I eat breakfast before we go? And Mony's like, yeah, sure,
and he picks up the bowl of cereal and he
looks down at it and he's like disappointed, and then
he spoons and starts yelling at his cat and goes

(33:42):
in the letter box and then flicks his cereal across
the room. That still makes me gag. I'm like, there's
no way I'm ever going to get a cat. Yeap
who roast as hell? I couldn't agree more. This is
where I found some of these scenes just to be
gross for gross sakes, and that's why I didn't work
for me. It wasn't as funny that was one of
the moments, but it is effective, that's for sure. And

(34:05):
if you've ever known anyone like I do that owns
a cat and she has a cat that is very
well behaved and goes in the litter box is great,
but it doesn't actually smell the entire place, which is nice.
But that first wave after the cat does his business
in the litter box is brutal. When he was eating
that out of the cereal, I was like, this is

(34:26):
that's absolutely disgusting.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
I don't know. And that was another way I almost
had a it's not a major, this is a super
nitpicky complaint, but with that character's name in the first place,
because you said it and I couldn't remember his name,
and I had to look at the cast list here
and it's Officer Vinnie Stollman Stole and it's such a
weird name and hard to say and hard to remember.
I was like, what is that name?

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, I thought he was okay, and I did kind
of find it funny when he finds, oh god, the
promo for Nessli Crunch, I mean basically just only bitt
It's like, it's kind of ants, this is wiping them off.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
So let's move on to our Swiss cheese and complaint department,
And why do we call it Swiss cheese.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Because although this movie is delicious, it does have your
choose your tackleberry gun holes.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Right if it doesn't have your choose your tackleberry gun holes,
we just final complaint with the complaint department. Jason, what
do you have left for complaints that you could share
with our audience.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, it's just a structural issue. I think there's just
a framework, lack of story overall, the kind of thing
which again we know what this is, the kind of
comedy it is, but it then when they try to
put a story into it, it feels jarring. It's forty
five minutes into this film and our new recruits are
graduating class have done absolutely nothing to stop any crime

(35:47):
at all, apprehend any gang members until Captain Lassard played
by Hard Hessman gets graffitied, which was an odd scene
as well, when Lassard goes down the alley to take
on the gang members on his own and then gets
out number of course, and it comes back to the
precinct and he's got graffiti all of them, and then
it's like he does the raw ross speech, let's go
get him. Wait a minute, we're halfway through the movie.

(36:08):
What now we're It was odd to me, So that's
just an overall.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Issue I had there you go. One for me was
Mahoney's intro scene in this movie. I mean, you look
back on police Academy and then he was is the
car valet and he does the thing with the guy's
car and he puts it on two wheels and then
parks it right. And then for this one, okay, it
opens up on the beach and he's beach patrol. I'm like, okay, perfect,

(36:35):
this is definitely something Mahoney would want to do to
work on the beach. But then we have the truck
that's zipping around the beach pulls up to Mahoney. Mahoney
knows the guy mm hmm. And then the guy drives
off and there's like a really bad chase scene where
you almost think Mahoney's gonna get killed because it looks
like he's gonna flip over his bike a couple of times.

(36:55):
I'm like, wait, you know this guy. Two of the
accomplices got off the truck. That didn't work for me
at all.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
It's weird. Once they start the chase, it gets weird.
There's a quick cut where you can see it's clearly
not Gutenberg on the four wheeler. It's a stunt man.
And then that chase is like, okay, now they're cruising
down the beach, which can be fun, but then it's
just jarring at the end when all of a sudden
the truck goes flying off the edge of a pier
or rocky cliff, whatever that was, because you didn't see

(37:24):
from it. The perspective is not filmed correctly where you
didn't see that coming at all at the end of
this beach, which is part of a vast ocean on
the other and then all of a sudden he's going
off of the side of a wall into the water,
and it's like, did he just go flying into a
totally different location into a lake somewhere.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
That's how it felt. It was a weird ending to that,
and the fact that he knows the guy. Does he
do this all the time? Is this a recurring thing
where here comes Tim in his truck and choose up
the beach and.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah, maybe have a chat with this guy if he's
your buddy.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
But he looks like a dork at least look like
a tough guy or something, right.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, it's just weird. That's a good one, as to
be expected. This was the eighties, of course, and we
always say this, that's no excuse, but this is what
was happening during the time, and there's some geislers, you know,
some racial stuff going on in here, and some jokes
and things, and probably would not fly today they were
to remake this, they would not be putting that in there,
So that's just to be noted. I think the only

(38:26):
other thing I had Bill Bant was I had an
issue the full body cavity search joke didn't work for
me in this because it just didn't make any sense.
I understood that it was another prank that Mahoney was
playing a Mauser. Great, but then to bring the nurse
into the locker room and single out Mauser and then

(38:47):
she was just going to go they just grab him
and violate him. Basically, didn't feel like there was any
proper procedure here. It wasn't as if Mahony framed Mauser
as like a bad guy or a purp or something
like that. It was just right there in the locker room.
It just didn't feel like that would I understand. Suspension
of disbelief kind of goes out with the window with
this type of movie, but it didn't pay off. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
What I find weird about that also is there's all
the hustle and bustle going on the pre suit and
then Mahoney says to keptain Lessard he wants him to
sign something, and he asked what it is. He's like, oh, body,
Cavary search right, and you almost could miss it. And
then all of a sudden we come to the scene
with Malser getting it and you're like, where's this coming from.

(39:32):
You're like, oh, they kind of set it up earlier,
but they didn't really set it up.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
You like that Mauser is getting come uppance, but this
set yeah, setup is not good at all.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
That's all I got my last one. Then I found
this really weird. So after they arrest all the people
and supposedly none of the arrest stick, which doesn't make
sense to me either, because all the rookies do have
a season officer with them, so you think they would
go through the procedure to at least arrest these people properly.
But Lazard knows he's screwed and he's gonna lose his captainship.

(40:07):
So that's when they've decided to put on the fair
to try to get the neighborhood back. All right, good idea.
So during the fair, the gang shows up and they
have the scene where they're talking about the fair and
the rides and stuff. Jason, they are only a half
a block away from the fair. They're supposed to be
police all around. How do they not see, Hey, that's

(40:28):
the Scullions right there, right. They get totally taken by surprise.
I didn't realize how close they were after they finished
the conversation. They walked proximity. It walked five steps, and
then they're right in the middle of the fair.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Right. It's like, I think somebody would have noticed this
whole this entire gang forming at the edge of the crowd.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
The whole thing is the city's being overrun. You would
have some massive police protection for this fair. Yeah, that's
a great call. That's just a logical thought process there.
It's that did make me smile, I will admit. When
Bobcat is explaining why he doesn't want to go onto
the is it the ferris wheel?

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yes? Or that because he gets sick, And then he's like, okay,
well if you go with me, I'll go on it.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah, we've barely talked about him in this and yeah,
oh man, he choose up the scenes, that's for sure.
He was certainly memorable. Oh he's going for it.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
I never forgot who he was after watching this movie.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Oh yeah, I mean they gave him that entire sequence
in the grocery store is so wild, and they just
let him, let him go for it.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
I would say he's a highlight in this I would agree.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
I would agree. Hey, I didn't mind him at all,
Like he's he's doing his job. And if you like
his style of comedy exactly, if you do it works,
he's a kookie. If not, yeah, it could be grating.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
M Okay, let's move on to Hey, it's that actor.
So in this segment, we spotlight a character actor you
have seen in many other films, an actor making their
big screen debut, or an actor it makes an uncredited cameo.
It's hey, it's an actor. Who do we choose this week?

Speaker 2 (42:02):
All right? This week we chose for our Hey, it's
that actor Rich Hall, who is uncredited as a street punk.
That's Rich Hall. He caught my eye. I didn't recognize him.
At first, I admit, but when going through the cast
list and seeing his name and picture, I knew it
was him, and yeah. Rich Hall is known for his
sour expression, graouci demeanor, cantankerous, gravelly voice. He's an American comedian, writer, director, actor,

(42:28):
and musician. He came to prominence as a sketch comedian
in the nineteen eighties. This is from IMDb. He both
wrote and acted in these sketch comedies. So I'm going
to get into his eighties resume here. He was on
a show called Fridays. This was similar to Saturday Night Live.
I was going to ask you, Bill, you're nodding your
head as if you had seen this. I was not familiar.

(42:49):
But Michael Richards was on this show, as well as
Bruce Maller, who plays Fackler in Police Academy.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Just recently came on streaming, so I have seen a
couple of up. Did not know of it at the
time when it came out. It's only been recent that
I've I've heard about it and had been watching an
episode here though. It's okay, yeah, okay, Well, rich Hall
was in nineteen episodes of that from eighty one to
eighty two. He did end up playing various characters on
Saturday Night Live in sixteen episodes from eighty four to

(43:17):
eighty five. He was the character Wilbur in One Crazy
Summer from eighty six, which we covered on this very podcast.
He did some episodic TV after that, and he was
in another classic sequel, Chud two Bud.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
The Chud in nineteen eighty nine. But those of us
familiar with eighties pop culture. Fans of the eighties would
know Rich Hall for his part playing himself in the
HBO TV series Not Necessarily The News. He was in
fifty three episodes from nineteen eighty two to nineteen ninety
He as an actor, he would go on to do
more small parts TV movies episodic TV. He most recently

(43:54):
was the character Roberts in the twenty twenty five reboot
of The Running Man Just Crazy to Go Back. Now,
I'm like, I don't remember that character, so I gotta
think about that one. Yeah. And then throughout the twenty
ten's he wrote a series of documentary commentary like type
TV movies, such as Rich Hall's You Can Go to Hell,
I'm Going to Texas and Rich Hall's California Stars and
rich Hall's Presidential grudge Match and a few more of those,

(44:17):
ending with rich Hall's Red Menace in twenty nineteen Little Trivia.
He was partly the inspiration for the character of Moe
in The Simpsons, and rich Hall is credited with inventing
the word yes, that's what I know him for go
you were waiting for me to get to that. A
snigglet is defined as a word that should be in
the dictionary but isn't. Sniggleets were popularized during the eighties

(44:40):
on that HBO series I mentioned not necessarily the news.
He was a regular cast member of the show, of course,
and had that regular segment on sniggelets during each episode
of the monthly series, rich Hall is our it'es.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
That act the one snigglet. I always remember the description.
I wish I knew what it was. Is when you
open a catch up top and there's like dried catch
up And he had a name for it, and I
can't remember what it was. But every time I opened ketchup,
I always think of stinklets. Why don't I look up
and find out.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
What that word is. That's amazing. I was a fan
of that show. I was to watch that a lot.
There was a good one and I remember him from
that This sniglets were great. I wonder I'm sure you
could look it up to find Yeah, I'm gonna have to.
That would be fun to do. By the time, move
on to facts and trivia. What are some facts in
trivia we have about Police Academy to their first assignment. Yeah,
here we go the first assignment. The first film Police

(45:30):
Academy had cost four point eight million, but the second
was seven point five million. Producer Paul Maslansky said the
difference was due to filming in Los Angeles rather than
Toronto as in the original quote. Shooting in Los Angeles
is expensive, he said, not because of the city officials.
They provide every cooperation. It's the merchants and the property
owners who can really hit you. There's so much filming

(45:51):
going on that they ask a lot of money for
location sites, parking, et cetera. Mislansky also said, naturally the
actors wanted more money to do the sequel of the
line or principal talent costs are about a million and
a half and that includes my own fee. He added,
we lost some time because I had to change directors
after a couple of weeks, but Jerry Parris has done

(46:12):
a great job of catching up.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Well there you go. Yes, I did say the viewing
of our episode that Jerry Paris was the director of
Police Economy two, but he was not the first director.
That would be James Signorelli, who was fired for Police
Economy two the first assignment, after three weeks of filming,
due to creative differences and concerns that his according to
producer Paul Maslansky, was too edgy and it did not

(46:37):
match the franchise's tone, so he was replaced by Jerry Parris,
and much of Signorelli's footage was reshot. Producer Paul Maslanski
stated that he classed with Signarelli, claiming the director had
not seen the original film and they had a physical fight.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Or the direction of the movie. Well, here we go
a little more of this. According to Bubba Smith, he
made more money from his work on the film alone
than he had earned in ten years of playing professional football.
This was due to Bubba having requested a two percent
piece of the movie's profits in lieu of a higher
salary prior to shooting Smart Man.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Smart Man, Yeah, right, here we go a little nepotism
so two of Jerry Parris's children were casts in the movie.
His daughter Julie Parris was given a small role as
the checkout girl said talks to, while his son Andrew
Paris played Bud, the punchy brother of Kathleen Kirkland, which
that that was a little somewhat funny but a little
over the top.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah. I was talking about GW. Bailey missing him in
this film, and he had hoped to return as Lieutenant
Harris in this but was passed over in favor of
art Pa Toronto as the antagonist in this film and
Police Academy three back in Training as well. Bailey instead
took a job working with director Hugh Wilson on Rustler's Rhapsody.
In nineteen eighty five, on a day off, GW visited

(47:52):
this movie set to film an uncredited cameo in the
wedding reception scene at the end, he appeared from behind
as the man having his picture taken by the photographer.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
And once I read that and then watched the movie again,
I was like, Oh, yep, there he is. You know
it's in right away. Mm hmm, Okay, this I found
somewhat interesting. So Julie Brown, who was the seamstress in
that one scene you talked about. Was originally cast as
Chloe Daniels, who was supposed to be the love interest
for Mahoney, with the understanding she would play significant ensemble role. However,

(48:25):
she was later disappointed to find out that many of
her scenes with Steve Gutenberg had been removed from the
final version of the film. Brown also recalled that Gutenberg
was not particularly kind to her during filming. In one instance,
while shooting the street Fair sequence where Mahoney takes Chloe
on a Ferris Wheel date. We don't see any of this,
Gutenberg declined to perform a scripted kiss, saying his character

(48:47):
wouldn't kiss her. Ultimately, the entire romantic storyline between Mahoney
and Chloe was cut from the finished film.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Bummer, that might have added something.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
I don't know, but I know, but you're going from
Kim Control to Julie Brown. M yep, I it seems
like a playful girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
But I don't know. Bummer for her though, that would
just be like, oh, it cut all my things. Yes, Also,
bummer to hear that supposely he wasn't very nice, surprising.
I did want to just this is a quick one
mention this because I thought this was cool and just
kind of kind of nice. Tim Kazarinsky was originally only
to appear in the opening scene. He plays Sweet Chuck,
of course, but director Jerry Paris enjoyed the chemistry between

(49:25):
Kazarinsky and Bobcat Goldwaite, so the character of sweet Chuck
was created during filming.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Yeah, that's like the opposite of what exactly, We'll get
rid of one and add another instead. Yeah, time to
move on to box office, so please kind of me two.
Their first Assignment, hit theaters on March twenty ninth, nineteen
eighty five, opening wide and sixteen hundred and thirteen locations.
Made on a relatively modest budget of around seven point
five million, the film turned into a major box office success,

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pulling in fifty five point three million across North America.
It debuted at number one and didn't give up that
top spot for three straight weeks even after that until
Strong the top ten for another seven weeks, eventually finishing
as the eleventh highest grossing film in the US for
that year. Moving on to reviews, from growing up in
the eighties, we would watch at the movies with Gene

(50:13):
Cisco and Roger Ebert to hear their reviews and watch
clips of upcoming movies. Their review of Police Acadomy two
was unanimous two thumbs down. Jean said the movie had
two laughable moments, which were two more than the first film,
and Roger was disappointed that people would spend their hard
earned money to pay to see this movie. Tomatoes gives
it a Tomatometers score of thirty two percent, with the

(50:35):
Popcorn Meter score of forty three percent. It also has
an IMDb rating of five point eight. So this takes
us two additional thoughts and questions. What are some additional
thoughts of questions we have about Pleae Academy two.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
It's all you, Bill Bent, what do you got?

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Here's a question for you, Jason. So I might have
to think about this a little bit. Okay, So they've
cast Police Academy two. They haven't started filming yet, but
they bring you in as casting directors slash scriptwriter, and
they say, here's our cast, and you can make any
change to the cast whatsoever. You could take someone out
and replace him with someone the first movie. Everyone's available
at this point because there's some actors who couldn't film

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the second movie just because of other obligations. But you
could bring anyone back, and you could take anyone out
or just add someone or just take someone out.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
What would you change in Police Acadomy too? Maybe to
help it? I think I know which direction you're going
to go. Huh So, yeah, well I did. I was
of course talking about GW. Bailey versus Art Matronto.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
But you know what I didn't. I just don't understand
why Fackler is there. He just doesn't kill do anything
for me, So I would take him out, and I
think it could have used. Yeah, definitely another strong female
and help me out. Who's the blonde bombshell? That's one
of the Oh that couldn't I think was she pregnant
during the filming of this, She couldn't be in it? Oh,

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Leslie Easterbrook Debye Callahan, Yes, Leslie Easterbrook. She could have
brought that strength and sexuality to it, which I think
obviously memorable as a teenager as a young boy watching
the first film. But yeah, this is an eighties comedy
and that's just felt like it was missing a little
bit of that and I didn't Maybe not a Kim

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control because we like you just mentioned Bill, which I
think is smart. You know, let's let tackle Berry have
the relationship in this film, the romance, but definitely could
have used we just let's put another female character in
there instead a factler.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
I'm one hundred percent with you on that one. Factler
doesn't do anything for me.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Okay. They didn't give him anything to do or to
make him essential to any of the plot in the
high jinks that he's involved with. I didn't find that amusing,
so I didn't know his purpose. One hundred percent agree.
All right.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Last question, all right, is this going to be the
last police Academy we have reviewed for this podcast?

Speaker 2 (52:53):
We haven't even gotten the review. But no, not at all.
I want to be a completist. I mean, wa, wait,
when was the last When did the last film come
out year? That's a good question. I did not know
the answer. All right, Well, we'll do all we got
to do all the eighties police Academies. At least. I
have no doubt there'll be things. They'll be positive takeaways.

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I was just but it's interesting that your commentary being
that you could see the writing on the wall the
direction that it was going in, So it'll be interesting.
But maybe if I know what it is now, I'll
have a different mindset going into the next one, and
I'll just be a little bit more. Hey, it is
what it is. Enjoy it for what it is. Let's

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not take it too seriously.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Well three is back in training, just say now, so
at least go back to police Academy.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
All right, all right, and with that being said, let's
move on to our rating. So on a scale of
one to five police badges, what do you give Police
Academy two their first assignment? All right, well, I got
to give this too. I'm giving it to police Badges.
It's one of my lowest ratings. I'm sorry to say,
but this did not work for me. I did not
think the writing was strong. I didn't think the direction

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was strong.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
I don't think the editing did anyone any favors because
comedy is timing and a lot of the jokes fell
flat because the delivery and or pacing of the way
it was cut was just too It was stuck in
mud in moments and I was like, ooh, that just
falls like a thud. And so yeah, but again, good

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to see these actors. They are serviceable and more. I mean,
we talk about Michael Winslow. He's funny, you know, Tackle
Berry Dave Graff was a standout, and I mentioned to
the character of Proctor. I enjoyed him his introduction into
this franchise in this film. So, yeah, the jokes didn't
land for me. And I didn't know what the you know,

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kind of what the point of this was. If there
weren't going there was not really be a story at all.
It was just so loose, and then they didn't engage
into the actual plot line with the gang until the
end and like twenty minutes left, So that just didn't
work it all for me. It was just confusing as
to what changed from the first film to the second,

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But I think we discovered some of that in trivia,
So it just that's just my opinion.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
This one didn't work for me. So two police badges,
two police badges. See, I I was going back and
forth between two and a half and three. I always
feel like I should be a little bit higher than you,
but I don't want to go too high. Yeah, the
shame I can't give it a two point seventy five.
I'll give it a strong two and a half then,
because I do like the characters. I do like some

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of the situations that they're in. Yeah, the third act
is terrible. There's only two highlights in the last twenty minutes,
but I kind of like to see where they were
going from the first one. But yeah, the fact that
you're still rehashing the same gags, which you will do
in the next couple of movies. And some of the
characters were definitely under used. But I think because I

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do like Tackleberry a lot, that kind of helped. Michael
Winslow did have some fun stuff in it, so that helped.
But it's not necessarily a good movie. But there's enough
in it for me too like it. I can see
myself going back and watching it again. But it's not
a must watch.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Yeah, there you go. That's the thing is like, would
you recommend it? Do you think? See? I personally would
not recommend this film. I would recommend a scene or two.
I would recommend the Michael Winslow martial arts sequence. Just
watch that scene on YouTube because that's really fun. Or
do you think your kids when they become you know, well,
that's crazy growing so fast the teenagers, do you think

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they get a kick out of this now? Or is
my son might the eighties kind of sense of humor.
It might be the right age for this. Okay, yeah
it was what I should have.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Yeah, but that my additional thoughts. I think if you're
you're a grown adult and you're watching this for the
first time, not to so much, but yeah, I think
if you're gonna watch it you with your teenage kids,
you might kick.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Out up with that. How does the takeaway?

Speaker 1 (57:07):
So that wraps it up for this week's episode. Thank
you so much for hanging out with us.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
We really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
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Speaker 2 (57:26):
We'll catch you.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Next time as we jump into another unforgettable gem from
the greatest movie decade of all times, the nineteen eighties.
Till then, stay awesome and have an excellent day. You
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and funck this. Okay, here we go.