How do compassion and adaptability shape the path to leadership in military aviation? In this powerful conversation, our hosts share their experiences from the cockpit to the command room, offering insight into what it takes to lead with empathy and humility.
In Episode 5 of All Fire No Smoke, “We Ride at Dawn,” Blaze and Dragon Lady reflect on their historic careers and the lessons they’ve learned as women leaders in the military. They discuss standout moments of both great and poor leadership they witnessed, emphasizing the crucial nature of being approachable, humble, and leading by example. They also explore the challenges of what it means to care for yourself while caring for the team around you.
From flying reconnaissance at 70,000 feet to performing high-stakes aerial maneuvers with the Thunderbirds, Episode 4 illustrates that effective leadership isn’t just about skill—it’s about connection, trust, and never losing sight of the human element. Plus, you won’t want to miss the laughter-filled detour into some “questionable drawings” that left a lasting impression in their journey.
Get ready because…. we ride at dawn! No one? Okay sorry we’ll show ourselves out.
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